Opening the L-Gates WAY too early
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2022
- How do you throw a game before it has even reached the mid-game year?
I'm trying to evolve what types of videos I make. This one I tried to get straight into the action and also have some added music. But it is still the text that eats up the time. Countless hours of it. I might try to make some videos without it in the future. - Ігри
"Hmm today I'll create a micro disaster 150 years ahead of schedule"
I mean i open them in 2250-70 so not that early
But maybe i am just a maniac playing on grand admiral
(fleetless)
Me losing a war that will have me turned into a vassal
“Time for the nuclear option”
Star trek be like
@@rynemcgriffin1752 You gotta do what you gotta do.
I partake in larger Paradox games on Saturdays, one person opened the L gate with the tempest and we've memed him ever since because of our collective pain
Lmao. I would just unite space UN on him and make sure he suffers even more.
lol, I love the starcraft briefing of Simon “apologizing.”
I subbed after I saw that lol
I know for a fact a parent would say that it was Mia's fault if she was the older sibling. The fact that she found the L gate and announced it was the reason he created the pledge and her laughing drove him further. I had that argument used on me so many times as an excuse for my parents to cover for my younger siblings.
Your comment made me laugh out loud! Such a backwards logic, but feels fully realistic. Damn.
Glad we have the option to play without the L-gates in the latest patch. Even the good options are not worth the risk of the Tempest.
Maybe I'm just salty from getting the tempest *5 games in a row*
Feel the same. It’s seemingly the Gray Tempest or the Dessanu every single time.
To be fair they do not have an equal chance of happening.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Yeah, the Tempest is supposed to be the rarest but somehow it's by far the most common one I've gotten
@@skipperxiv9401 Actually the Gray Tempest is supposed to be the most common one, according to the wiki.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Huh. I had heard it was exceedingly rare but maybe the person who said that just pulled it out their ass.
Will there be a part 2 where Simon opens the L gate first again, but at a reasonable time?
Will probably make a part 2 of this video. :)
There was nothing unreasonable about the timing of the L-Gate opening. I'm fairly sure Mia or Gurra did something with the settings before the start that fucked us.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragonbeen a year where is it at?!
@@nickkozak4763 This is part 2 of this specific campaign: ua-cam.com/video/yj5Quz5Z4jc/v-deo.html
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Part 1: Simon opened the L-gates 150 years too early
Part 2: Simon causes the Great Khan event and that's not even the worst thing to happen
I thought it couldn't get much worse 😂
Right at the end, when everything seemed lost, they discovered time travel, allowing them to travel back in time to right before opening the portals.
Ohh, and Simon opened them again.
I loved the SC style mission brief / blame assignment
Very happy you did! :D
Hello darkness my old friend springs to mind when the other 6 gates open.
Clearly, this was an unavoidable disaster and Simon is an innocent space noodle.
Mia: Did you learn your lesson?
Simon: Yes.
Narrator: He did not.
When i was learning the game and playing with people with years of experience i also made sure i had a doomsday button, usually triggering the fallen empires. Glorious mutually assured destruction.
nuh uh
@@arandomcommenter412 who are you who is so wise in the ways of diplomacy
Don´t think I have ever seen the L-Gate opened this early in the game.
Simon ya crazy
I definitely found your channel from the text you put in the videos and the editing style, but I really enjoy the interactions you have with your friends and will keep watching just for that! These are a lot of fun and I'd love to see more.
If I remember correctly in the new(er) version of Stellaris defense platforms are actually a lot stronger than they used to be, and you usually (at first) 'only' have one entry point for the grey tempest (the l gates), combined with unyielding you might actually survive it at that early stage. If you actually get unyielding...
I do this with l gates if i find one i build a massive starbase with nothing but gun and missiles and fighter hangers and all te defense upgrades and then put defense turrets everywhere and ion cannons
Ok, see, when Simon said he'd rush the L-Gates in 2211, that should have been the call to minmax science and alloy production. Battleships in 2270 should be doable.
Yeah, we're not the most meta players. That's why we play with each other instead of public games. :P
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon I agree with aptspire, you should have done more mixmaxing, Gurra. This is on you.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Tech rushing is just boring. It's been killing the fun in the 50 year crisis (with half tech cost) community games I've been participating in. There's no build diversity, especially as there's no AI or anything substantial deal with before year 50 so there's nothing to curb tech rush. It just kills everything that makes the game fun.
Hell, the last game I had with friends, I bumped up the AI count so we had less space. It ended up as sheer chaos. I spawned right next to a federation of cartels (genuinely, what are the odds?) and so for my entire existence, I had to deal with neighbours with thrice the expansion rate whilst also dealing with combating crime. I ended up so badly off, I was *below* most of my other friends in the leaderboard (I have played 1800+ hours, my friends who participated have around 350 or less). Then we got murdered by an early Khan before I could expand so we all had to submit, and then got murdered even more by a buffed Unbidden. 😂
Was pain but it was good chaotic fun. 😂Many memorable moments. More casual games like that are genuinely the best. There really is nothing like just chilling with your friends and the chaos unfolding.
I got that kind of feeling out of this video and I love that. There really isn't enough Stellaris content out there that has that friend group casual game kind of vibe going on, so cheers! 👍
@@exoltik3199 Happy that you liked it! Reading your comment also gives me the feeling that what you experienced is similar to the type of games we have. The times when you’re not in control. Even such a thing as random empire placement can lead to such a varied start that suddenly it is no longer just about build, but also location.
To me, there is no fun to be had in tech-rushing, ship designing to counter every opponent or becoming unbeatable less than 100 years in. It is the struggle to reach a position of power that is the fun part. And ideally, it should keep being just out of reach from you.
L-Gates, named appropriately because you're gonna take a massive L if you're unprepared lmao
Today we watch the consequences of hubris.
Talk about an early game crisis, goddamn.
Pffff. the Starcraft briefing. Amazing.
Some claim that psionics came into the galaxy early, a large swath of the galaxy suddenly and without warning turned with a great upheveal toward the L gates, fear in their hearts, panic in their minds. Some say they experienced the end of life in a condensed moment.
Surely this will lead to the L gates being treated responsibly. Right?
This could not have been timed better. In my currrent multiplayer game we have someone who opened the L-gates early (under 10 years later than the video) and we have 55k fleets against us. The most powerful non-advanced non-fallen empire is a determined exterminator with around 40k fleets. We stand no chance. I'm just building up a stronghold system to hopefully stop them getting to most of my planets (I will lose 2 valuable ones) And we can only hope one of us gets enough fleets to go past the Invaders and take out their home.
I remember the first time I played Stellaris I had no idea what L-Gates were supposed to be. I speedran through everything to get to the other side first because I wanted to be the first one to this previously unheard of technology.
Boy did I regret it almost immediately.
I liked it when Simon said everyone shares equal blame lmao
When you don't let Gray finish his nap...
"You've doomed us all"
So good! Wonderful editing. Had fun watching it :)
I've had galaxies go like this, the only one I've survived was with a subterranean maximum defence build.
Basically the Grey Tempest couldn't lock down enough of my systems to prevent me building reinforcements and couldn't bombard my planets fast enough to actually destroy them.
It devolved into this grinding war until i could tech up enough to punch through the L-Cluster.
i had a different strategy. I gave many of my systems to the fallen empire and let them act as my shield. As it turns out they dont take well to grey tempest entering there space and there fleets are massive in size so the can splat the grey tempest easily enough. Then you work and work teching up until you can build a quantum catapult or are ready to take on the fallen empire. by then most other life will probably be dead... but you will still be alive
Essentially you force the fallen empire to become your protector lol.
He made an early game crisis lmao
simon had me at the edge of my seat for that first minute ngl
Pro tip, If you rush through the L gate with all the players fleet at the onset, and have the person with best tech/economy power level the starbase in the first system, you can stall, or stop them from sending reinforcements into the galaxy, and in some cases cause the fleets already out there to make there way back. (For reference I ONLY pulled this off once, and holding that first system nearly tanked my economy, thankfully I did something similar with my L gate system so I was able to push back the first wave, this is only to be done if you are desperate and no one can reasonably take them on themselves as it will cripple everyone's economy.)
starcraft montage was priceless!!! :D
Happy you liked it! :)
Man opened pandoras box
Damn, I was really hoping you guys would pull through!
Actually good editing, especially with the funny starcraft bit.
Happy you liked it! :D
I cant wait for more videos of this type, please keep it up. 😀
Super happy you enjoyed it!
Simon: Opening this L-gate should be interesting!
Interesting pours forth from the L-gate, Invades galaxy and destroys everything and everyone
Everyone else: Yep, that sure was interesting.
“Today ill cause a galaxy sized threat for no reason besides I haven’t caused one in a while
Wow, the production on this small channel is crazy.
I don’t know who you are, this is your first video I have ever seen, but I wanna say something
Hey Simon, you play like a Stellaris IA, because honestly only a IA thinks that opening the L-Cluster before having at least 50K fleet is a good idea
Fun video, would recommend
Intelligence Artificial?
@@bobgeorge6751
F**k
In my defense in spanish they call it “Inteligencia Artificial” (IA), and I have been watching videos about the subject in spanish lately
@@Leo-ok3uj Honestly, can't blame you then.
Leo, I think that waiting until you have a 50k fleet before you open the L-Gates is cowardly. ¡Cobarde!
@@bobgeorge6751Intelligence artificielle
It's like Mass Effect without Col Shepard and his band of heroes to save you.
Commander Shepard*
You must go back. Back to the Past, Samurai Jack
When the L gate gives you a L
i searched for this channel for like half a year and i just realised that am subscribed to you it hurts
I don’t know if that is me doing something wrong or you doing something wrong.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon you misunderstood me i love your content thats why i hurts that i forgoten am subscribed to you and searched for this channel for like half a year hope you now understand what i meant :) (I am sorry for any mistakes English is not my first language)
@@xpkgamingx1219 No no, I understood. And thank you! I’m just thinking if I could be doing something that makes my channel easier to find.
Hmm gray tempest in 2270. Hardly the latest I’ve dealt with it. In my recent games that’s about when the 10 or 25x mid game crisis appears. Though the one time I increased the tech and tradition cost my entire strategy fell apart
I remember doing this quite a few versions back when the destroyerbot race was not nerfed to hell. Had about 10 armies of 200K+ each facing against endless 150K armies from the invasion side, while being at war with all the other 6 empires remaining. Ended up destroying them all because of technical superiority in ship design, and loadouts. Afterwards i eradicated all the systems in all galaxy conquering everything and terraforming to machine world every possible colony. I left 1 single primitive world alive just to see how they would evolve. They were not evolving fast enough so in the end i blew up their planet from the core. Fun times. However, destroyerbots are not rly fun anymore and i think that the way stellaris aged is really quite bad. Had way more fun with the game in the early days.
I disrupted my first MP game by opening the L-gate around year 40
very much "today I am going to cause problems on purpose"
The first time I ran into one of these in my territory didnt know they'd be such a pain, 2nd time I reinforced the fk out of the place, and lost the playthrough because one random megacorp decided Iw as a threat to the galaxy, then a series of like 8 megacorps allied to the first decalred war on me and lost after Idk how many years of conflict, the factor, that damn L gate in my area where they poured in from lol
The starcraft but was HILARIOUS and amazingly done.
Thank you so much! :D
Smaller ships are the answer to the l gates. They might be strong enemies but theres only a few of them in every fleet. Its easy to whittle them down
Good video as always , I hope in other gameplays😁
I did this once and won because the tempest wiped out the whole galaxy while I just amassed my fleet at a bottleneck system and when I finally had a powerful enough fleet I destroyed the Grey Tempest
5:20 IS EPIC MONTAGE
honestly a very impressive video, was fun to watch
Thank you so much! :)
Oh my gosh that starcraft edit was wonderful.
Happy to hear you liked it! :)
yes this has happened to me in one game, the largest fleet (mine) was only around power of 2000. I dedicated EVERYTHING towards military build up... ended up taking become the crisis just for the cheap ships , gave away a whole bunch of my star systems to the thankfully nearby fallen empire which is probably the only thing that saved me as they acted as a nice shield for a long time. I was eventually able to take on the grey tempest but by then most life in the galaxy was dead just me and two other regular empire. one trapped behind me the other just a single planet remaining somewhere in the galaxy.
So the lesson is, if you are playing and the grey tempest comes very early the best thing you can do is give as many systems as you need to allow the fallen empire to act as a shield.
This Right here was me at the End of a One-Shot campaign, And it was also around That time in the game, One hell of a way to end the night
Love the Starkraft1 ref!
"Goddammit, Leroy!!!" 😂
At least I have chicken.
Simon opens L-Gates and dooms the entire Galaxy.
Simon: "Whoops, my bad"
The true evil is the one unaware of their inherently absolute chaos nature
This is exactly the targeted public the Gray Tempest is looking to raid
Epic last stand.
so bad news about the gray tempest. they are 4 fleets of 30k or so and they self replicate once every 10 years. so if you dont push them hard and fast and destroy their entire faction they will keep hitting you.
Holy shit the cutscene bit was great!
Thank you! :D
Yep, I did this in a multiplayer game too.
It was hilarious.
the only way that i know of to get a fallen empire to "help" this early when everyone is baby level in their fleet power is maybe to make the holy empire wake up by cracking one of its holy worlds and be its vassel, but even then its like. it wont fight unless the grey tempest fights it first
Really well done video surprised you dont have more subscribers
Thank you!
I had a game where my empire was behind a choke point, Tiyanki Vek. L Gates got opened early and wiped out the galaxy, but I was able to survive because whenever a Grey Tempest fleet would enter the Tiyanki system, space whales would kill them. I qas able to build enough fleet power up to take them out.
Honestly it would have been smarter for the Devs to make the Tempest appear only ten percent of the time (there are mods that play with this, I recommend using them) that way everyone is always opening the L-Gates early thinking it's going to be goodies inside when suddenly that ninth time out of ten *surprise nanite swarm bitch!!*
Yeah, "horrible death most of the time, goodies every so often" is not a tempting offer. "Goodies most of the time, horrible death every so often" is much more tempting.
In multiplayer it is pretty fun though. Because it is a very high risk-high reward option.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragonI’d more so describe it as Extremely high risk/decent reward
Probably, except for this game. Simon potentially getting Gray when we all had around 3-4k fleets would’ve been pretty overwhelming.
Fnally i'm watching a lone wolf video on time!
this seems like a fun game
It’s a good fit if you enjoy strategy, or perhaps Civilization and sci-fi.
Oops, all NANITES.
damn reapers. shepard!!!
This is hilarious 😂
I, as the greatest gamer here.. do with my entire heart and soul, pledge.... to ruin EVERRRYYYTHIINNNGGG! xD
If one of the players was pushing the l gate early, I'd start building my fleet just in case
Current objective:
Survive
Sometimes they don't attack... but I don't know the reason, they would just pretend they are organics. And the one time they've attacked I already had the Sky Dragon on my side and also some fallen empire ships. Yes when you find some relic one of the fallen empires may start giving you regularly some of their ships.
Honestly sounded like a good way to die....with friends, and laughing.
See this is what the Galactic Council should be like
30k fleets are a problem in 2260? Is this some xeno problem I'm too fanatic purifier to understand?
ÖPPNA ALDRIG L-PORTAR!!!
What do we call this? Simon's Apocalypse.
When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, in this case you won being genocided XD.
What was the epic music you played at 0:59?
Your friends new nanite worlds will be your new Gaia Worlds. :)
Epic
Seems to me, the lesson here is destroy any L gates you find and live happily ever after!
I play on console with a friend. Had one game where I managed to get over 3/4 of the gates in my systems. Never knew the tempest was a thing so I opened them up without a second thought, had the tempest pouring out of every corner of my system and had the Khan unite the pirates next to my system. 5 months later in game and my system looked like the Baltics. Fun and stressful time, wouldn’t have won’t it without my friend.
Lol this has happened more times than I want to admit
Simon says, open the L-Gates. 😂
I mean it is in the name, the _L_ gate. So take it. Take the L
Ayo im one year late but what was the music you used during the gray tempest war?
Pretty sure its Two steps from hell, but i cant remember the name
Heart of Courage from Two Steps From Hell is at 8:44 but the music at 1:10 is Fire and Thunder by Cjbeards.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragonLets goo, thanks dude.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon What about the music at 0:34 to 1:06?
Bro dug too deep.
I have no idea what is going on lol. at no point in the title, video, or description do you mention which game this is but the vibes seem fun lol
Just figured that anyone who would watch this would know it already. It is Stellaris, a 4X strategy game in space, where we each control and command a space empire.
Having played Sword of the Stars, i sorta feel like this might be a good alternative
Have never played it so I wouldn’t be able to say. But Stellaris I have played since release 2016 and I keep coming back to it, as well as the developers. Even after so many years the game is consistently being updated and probably has the best long-term support out of any Paradox titles. So I’d say it’s really good if you wanna give space strategy a chance.
What's the name of the music at 1min?
Endless Storm by Makai Symphony ua-cam.com/video/TNs5JFYaTMk/v-deo.html
Good video.
Thank you!
lmfao .... very good content
Thank you! :)
Putting the L in L-Gate
any recommendations for game settings for multiplayer games?
Depends on your skill level.
For me, Grand Admiral with scaling difficulty has been the closest thing to a very even difficulty. AI Empires stay roughly as powerful as you.
Random Empire Placement is really fun and can lead to some wacky situations. But it does mean that some player will find themselves with an unfair disadvantage. It is random after all.
2x-3x Crisis strenght has been enough for us.
Lastly I’ve usually pulled back mid-game start year to 2275 and end-game to 2350. But that does leave less room to actually play out war and diplomatic actions between you. So if that is something you’re into, you could keep the two as normal.
Do bear in mind that a 2x Crisis that appears 2350 is more powerful than an identical one that appears 2400, because you are all less powerful.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon On the topic of player power level, what tech cost multiplier do you recommend?
I haven’t used that. Just kept it on 1x.
So all the settings I’ve mentioned, used together, I think creates a good balanced game between you, the players and the Crisis. So if you want to change anything, like lowering tech cost or similar, you have to take that into account by making the Crisis stronger or something.
It involves a bit of guesswork, unless you use console commands to test it all out.