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You guys need to do a 24hrs of nuggets invitational and invite all the boys a whole grid of 1.6 litre nuggets going balls out for 24hrs of racing could be epic
As you said in your video buy an equivalent car to what your mates have, I have an idea for yous since you bought the cheapest example in the country, find a car you both like and one of you buy the cheapest example and the other buy the most expensive example in the country, see what it takes to get the cheapest one to the same level, see what's still wrong with the most expensive one and then modify them using genuine parts for the expensive one and knockoff parts for the cheap one.
That looked like such a good time! I used to own a 106 Rallye that was a right hoot to drive, and living in Europe meant parts availability was obviously better, and way cheaper. rev happy 1.6 liter, 103 horsepower, and only 860kg of car to lug around. It moved very well! We didn't get the 1.6 in the Swift here sadly, only the 1.3. The chassis is probably still solid, don't know how much else changes with the Sport version you've got there?
The Peugbro turned Marty into a giggling track gremlin. Hunched over the wheel cackling as he locked up and four-wheel-drifted around corners to keep Moog at bay. Say what you want about either of these cars, that looked like a ridiculous amount of fun for both!
i used to run a mk1 golf cabriolet on the nurburgring, had KWs and super sticky falkens under it, but mostly stock drivetrain. it was the MOST fun ive ever had in a car anywhere on earth. several hundred laps, several sets of tires and brakes, and memories that will never go away. what an absolute shitbox but what an absolutely amazing time.
Always loved the 206, shame you didn't get the GTI 180. Sports variant vs sports variant. So far it's been a bit unfair on the old pug, was very surprised to see how well it did against the swift considering it's just the pov base spec commuter version. Looking forward to seeing you turn it into a 206 WRC tribute!
True but the 1.6 16v has a lot of potential wrt to modification. I have a 206 gti 180 for 12 years raced and daily’d never had issues, just wear and tear items nothing more
That's one of the most fun videos I've seen on MCM in ages! I was laughing and cheering along through the race, and it was obvious that both guys were having a blast! Looking forward to seeing more of this sort of content - getting back to basics, attainable cars, and just having a great time. Love it!
The TU5JP4 is one of the better French 16-valve engines, on an armored cast iron block. Very amenable to modification. You can pull about ~150 horsepower out of it cheaply by changing the exhaust manifold, adding sharp camshafts with adjustable pulleys and an aluminum intake manifold from a Citroen C2 VTS, all topped off with tuning. Combined with the car's low weight, it makes for an incredibly fun driving experience :)
I agree, I have a TU5JP4 in a 1st gen C3 and while the car itself is garbage, that engine with a manual is so much fun to trash around and is incredibly reliable as well.
I love that most channels at this point in their career would be buying Mclarens and GTRs but these guys are still buying nuggets and having real relatable fun. By the way if Marty or Moog read this, I bought a Honda Beat because of you guys so thanks. 63 hp never felt so good.
Ehhhh if you look at a lot of what theyve been doing as they grew, it isnt very relatable unless you have a lot of money to burn. This is the first time in a while they seem to have gone way back to their roots, in the current era (what cheap fun things are people thrashing now vs 15 years ago)
@@aidantuckwell9191 and they will probably end up spending $10k on each car in the next few weeks. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to do that myself and probably will of my channel gets somewhere, but it’s hard to justify to do this not for UA-cam.
With nuggets like this, they are able to go harder and have more fun with less serious business because the cars capabilities are so much lower. Cars like that are excellent fun to drive hard because you aren’t going to be like mustang bro wrapped around a tree. With monster cars you have to be more serious and much more careful instead of just running them flat out.
I'm behind the 206 - the car that everyone hates but it's a plucky contender. Don't forget it's dad - 205GTi and other siblings- 306GTi6, 405Mi16, 106GTi... awesome cars. Can't wait to see the mods. Superb video guys, it was so much fun tagging along 😀
Back when Peugeot made absolute weapons that were too fast for their own good but still affordable for a young lad. Slow by todays standards but back then absolute weapons.
I still love the fact the 208 GTI "kinda" runs its legacy. I know its turbo-charged, makes much more HP and the fun factor potentially goes down with all the electronics truly interrupting the ultimate driving feel but i'm just happy Peugeot didn't niglect completey the GTI lineup. Now a good used one is quite affordable where I live which is nice as well and definitely considering it a future car.
The Peugbro is still my fav as this is breaking new ground on a platform that both M&M have no worked on. I'm excited to see them track this again as they seem to be having a blast.
Those little 206's are known in the UK for being pretty bulletproof simple cheap easy to get parts for apart from rust and the odd electrical issue they're not that bad and you can buy one for like £500
I've seen people running 206s with no oil or coolant. Let's be honest here, the 206 is a bulletproof car and cheap to run, the only issue would be finding parts in Australia where I'm guessing they aren't that common. In Euroland they're everywhere so you can just go to the scrap and find whatever body panel or part you seek for cheap. Also this is the internet, the Americans won't be voting on online polls for French cars, because even though they've never seen one IRL they believe they're terrible "because French lol".
Their Achilles heel (very appropriately) is the rear axle - the trailing arms pivot on needle bearings which rot away along with the stub that they mount on and the rear wheels develop a large amount of negative camber, sometimes so much that the tyres rub the inner arches! Entire rear axle replacement required every few years. There are entire companies that specialise in supply of refurbed axles. It's not a particularly expensive or difficult job to do the swap at least. Possibly in the Australian climate it's not so much of an issue.
yeah with tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust and tune, thats about all you'll need to jump to the next level. but it will be interesting to see what mods they decide to go with
This is a great series and awesome to see a cheap entry into track racing. Even better to see a couple of mates getting out there and having such a laugh and 100% just enjoying the competitiveness this encourages!
Thanks for returning to accessible cars that we can all relate to. New performance VWs and Lotuses etc are all very nice, but they just aren’t our reality. Also, it’s always more fun to go fast in a slow car than to go slowly in a fast car!
@@leejohnson6173 - Lee you old money bags you. Wait here while I pop off to purchase my rare 270 with a built RB for a couple grand like the swift. Lol
I have an almost identical Swift Sport (same colour and all) that is in the process of being set up as a track car. So far it's had the interior stripped, suspension done, roll cage, race seat & harness, exhaust, intake, wheels, semi slick tyres, motor still stock and a Chopped keyring. Ran a 56 at the same track. Got cams and a tune in the pipeline. Would be great to compare and see your build progress. It's a ton of fun.
This is going to be an amazing series. I hope it becomes an annual thing, the ultra-cheap track nugget showdown. I just want to see these regular little cars no one thinks about stripped bare and loud as.
As a Peugbro owner i loved it, this will be an awesome series. And yes the backend of those baggets are way too light, witch is fun as hell. Can't wait to see the next episode!
The 206 is a reliable beast, seriously this mechanic's opinion is surprising. Here in France they are still driving EVERYWHERE. They are very solid. French cars are really poor reliability between 2004-2012 era. The 206 is solid. The 207 with the 1.6 however is a tick bomb
Lift off oversteer has nothing to do with having torsion bars vs coil springs. Both the Swift and the Pug have somewhat similar rear suspension designs (i.e. trailing arms) that provide zero camber control of the rear wheels which is why they are so eager to step out when you lift off.
@@ferrumignis this is not the torsion bar you are thinking about, in this case "torsions bar" refers to a specific sort of semi-dependent trailing arm suspension
Marty knows how I feel driving home every night at 8pm in an ancient 206GTI along the A70 from Edinburgh. Some long straight stretches and some hairpin bends. Always legal speeds but still great fun. I love the Peugbros.
@@Wirenfeldt1990 A spicy Clio is a very good choice, best choice when it comes to French cars from the past 20/25 years... or a spicy Megane. What also could be fun is a '04/'05 Skoda Fabia 1.9 TDI RS if they can get one in Aussieland. Those 1.9 TDI engines make about 95~100kW standard but just with a basic tune it will do at least 120kW and with some reasonable cheap performance parts it will do well over 130kW... lots of potential for little money. TG has done a bit on it where one of those outpaced a Mini Cooper S... only but is that the TDI Fabia is very front heavy and with standard suspension it's terrible in the corners.
My mate’s a mechanic, he’s had a 206 for 9 years now. He hated French motors until he acquired it but he loves his little Pug and says it’s the best car he’s ever owned for value/dependability. Still goes and handles well too!
It's easy to forget how much location plays in, as here in Norway it's kinda the opposite, the 206 is cheap and easy to find parts for, the Swift Sport isn't sold in Norway, as Suzuki Norway only sells AWD Suzukis, though some people did special order some, so there's like 6 Swift Sports in Norway in total, parts having to be special ordered in some cases, as they don't have FWD bits at the Suzuki dealerships. That said though, as a friend of mine used to work at a Suzuki dealership he owned one of the 6 Swift Sports in Norway, and test driving it both when stock, and when on coilovers and 18" OZ magnesium wheels, it is a car that is quite glued to the road, but their proportions feel strange, like the roof is super tall when stood next to one. Haven't driven a normal 206, but they were incredibly common on the road, to the point of there being 206 racing leagues. I did however get driving lessons in a 206CC as my grandmother used to have one, most I remember of that was how annoyed I got at not having low RPM torque, so exiting a roundabout in 2nd gear to go up a small hill, I ended up having to downshift into 1st, which I was not used to having to do at all.
Even though the Swift Sport was available in the UK, parts are still expensive and there is much less aftermarket support compared to European brands. That also affects insurance, my Swift Sport insurance was nearly 50% higher than a newer, more valuable and more powerful Golf GTi. The Swift is far more fun to drive though.
I'm more excited about this series than I have been for ages. There's something so relatable about buying cheap little hatchbacks (not even the hot versions) a la what everyone learnt to drive in, then tweaking them.
I love this! As a swift owner I know exactly how the drive feels and its usually the most fun when the car you're battling it out with is around the same performance.
I think if the peugeot had exactly the same tires as the swift, it would smash it, they look slightly skinnier on video. Pretty funny considering its a slow poverty spec 206 compared to a swift sport lol. Great video as always, i had lots of fun watching marty be so entertained and happy
Couldn't agree more. The GTI was the same price as Moog's Swift, prettier than the Swift (IMO), and would have spanked the Swift around the track. Plus I love to see cars we can't get here in the States.
Sending French nuggets way harder then they were designed for has been my entire driving life in the UK! Glad to see Australia isn't missing out on the fun
@@edwardfletcher7790 here we are in Europe, where 206 parts cost about a tenth of parts for a Subaru legacy. A 206 needs a bit more parts though. But it’s probably the cheapest way to go around here if you can fix the small things yourself.
@@autobootpiloot Subaru parts are always expensive unfortunately. They don't make enough cars to bring large volume discounts from parts suppliers like Toyota can.
I'm usually interested in track test segments of videos for about a lap and then I'm over it. Not this time though! It was so fun to see how much fun they were having. You could really tell they enjoyed being out there just thrashing those cars. Well done mates!
can't wait for the next episode, if you've ever driven a SSS you know that feeling of going into a corner at 'full speed' knowing you'll make that overtake.
Can't wait to see what comes of this, both cars are great, and look like immense fun! BTW, the rear end coming out on hard corners is (or was) Peugeot/Citroën hot hatch tradition, the 205 ,106, AX and saxo were known for having quite loose rear ends that could get sketchy at higher speeds, especially in less capable hands (also, if there is ever to be a follow up to what is looking like an absolutely amazing series, you guys should try to go a size smaller! When you get down to those sub 800kg "as standard" euro nugs you find a whole new realm of madness)
As the owner of a saxo +- 900kilo with fluids I can relate, they are so much fun. Don't have much trouble with the back end then again never tracked it and have wider tires
If marty brought the Gti or 180 instead , those will blow the door away of that jdm overated hatch . Kinda dumb pitting against a swift sport with a xsi .
I think we can safely conclude that it doesn't matter what cars you are driving, racing your best mate in evenly matched cars with a splash of banter will always be a blast.
Am i the only one wishing the 206 winning the race? 😂 I hope they won't put an loud exhaust and just put on a High flow air intake cause it really sounds amazing with one.
This video takes me back. My first car was a 206 and say what you want but that car was so much fun for me. I got rid of it and replaced it with a 206RC that's still in my garage as my second car.
I complained about you not getting a 206 gti and getting a bottom of the range one but after seeing this a gti would wipe the floor with that swift. That’s the fastest swift and that’s not even the 3rd fastest version of the 206
The GTi has a 2.0L engine making a supossed ~180bhp, in which universe would it be suprising that it's faster than a simillary sized 1.6L car making 123bhp? In other news the Renault Clio 182 is faster than a 1.0L Toyota Yaris.
In Europe 206 is one of the most reliable cars. All engines are very reliable, they are cheap and easy to maintain and you have a plenty of parts everywhere. Also, it is the last car that was sold more then VW Golf. It is interesting how reputation of one car is changed in different regions of the world.
Agreed - the gearbox on the 206 wouldn't last long with a turbo. It was designed to cope with small capacity NA SOHC engines - the torque of a turbo will snap it like it's a carrot! There is a factory gearbox upgrade available, but probably impossible to find in Australia (and needs some other expensive mods to make it work).
Freaking love you guys! You really made this Automotive UA-cam thing what it is today and we would all be poorer without you. Thank you SO much for doing content like this and inspiring all us little channels! Life goals guys, life goals! Edit : "You should be heel and toeing" ;)
I actually have the 1.4 turbo version of the swift sport and you can really throw it around due to it being a lot ligher than the older 1.6 NA model and extremely torquey at the low end
That really was the best and most laughed at episode of MCM I've ever watched! As a Peugeot owner here in Ireland I very tempted to get a 206 to just take to the track for the same reasons as the two of you, for the Shits and Giggles 🤣
So not true about French cars, issues and parts. I've done hundreds of laps in 40 degree heat in a Renault Clio Sport from 2001, with 200,000kms on it with zero issues. Cheapest, most reliable track car I've ever had. Parts are cheap from the UK and very easy to get.
This is what car racing really should be about... Real cars being driven hard, none of the fake cars in the big races now that have nothing to do with their production counterparts. Well done guys, looked like you had a ball!
Never trust a mechanic who says French cars are rubbish. They're actually very good. Find a competent mechanic with skills, tools and appreciation for these cars and they cost no more than any other brand to maintain. Also, DIY what you can. I love French cars and will continue buying them. Full of character and great to drive.
Usually when mechanic is recommending you a certain car, what he means is he is recommending a car that he will make a lot of money on from all the future work on it.
Skills, tools, and appreciation are jack shit when you cannot get parts and the engineering is shit.. 😂😂😂 Never trust a person questioning a mechanic that does mechanic work everyday... because as a mechanic, I would always go for the easier to work on and parts galore over the other..
the dear BSI and BSM, the internal contacts break down continuously, and many of them do not have a spare part at the factory,,,,, (you have to look for an astute electronic to repair them).🎉
Correct BSI controls accessories, but also the gasoline pump, (which is what breaks down the most in the BSI, as it carries more tension). Here in the EU there is a lot of second-hand market, since it is not found new.
I had a 2006 Swift Sport as a daily, probably the most fun I've had driving a nugget. It came with front and rear sway bars + I added coilovers and RE003 tyres. The car handled like it was glued to the road and really could take a beating, lol!
I was just looking for a new phone case and windscreen mount for in my truck at work so I have just ordered the Quad Lock on your recomendation, Thanbks guy's... Keep up the great content
I'm Portuguese, and Peugeot 206 are very common here, and the complaints you mechanic put on the Peugeot, we complaint about Suzuki. That peugeot engine can be built to be over 200HP on N/A form... It's expensive but doable... The Peugeot/Citroen are not unreliable, not any more than any other low cost car... Keep oil changes on about every 10k KM and it will take you around the world! And the chassis on that 206, with the right suspension and tires, will wipe the floor with that Suzuki!
I really hope Marty is going to go completely nuts on modifying the Peugeot. I'm thinking adjustable suspension, tires, ITB build or engine swap, maybe both. Make this new 2Sexy build, only more scuffed.
Considering Marty spent less than half of what Moog did on his car, and how well Marty's 206 was keeping up at the track, I think Marty got the better base car deal here.
I didn't believe it until I experienced it. But pugs with some mods love to lift off oversteer. I went for a ride in a 306 gti6 (? There are maybe a handful of them in Australia literally) but I instantly loved the mity pug after that. Such a capable platform
My chopped keyring has always been on my 206 CC 2.0L key. Best little car I've ever owned but the mechanic is right, literally can't get parts for them. Can't wait to see what you do with it.
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You guys need to do a 24hrs of nuggets invitational and invite all the boys a whole grid of 1.6 litre nuggets going balls out for 24hrs of racing could be epic
International Nugget Racing at its best 🧆🏁👌 🙌 👏
Nuggets always need more sauce though! 🥫🧂
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As you said in your video buy an equivalent car to what your mates have, I have an idea for yous since you bought the cheapest example in the country, find a car you both like and one of you buy the cheapest example and the other buy the most expensive example in the country, see what it takes to get the cheapest one to the same level, see what's still wrong with the most expensive one and then modify them using genuine parts for the expensive one and knockoff parts for the cheap one.
That looked like such a good time!
I used to own a 106 Rallye that was a right hoot to drive, and living in Europe meant parts availability was obviously better, and way cheaper.
rev happy 1.6 liter, 103 horsepower, and only 860kg of car to lug around. It moved very well!
We didn't get the 1.6 in the Swift here sadly, only the 1.3. The chassis is probably still solid, don't know how much else changes with the Sport version you've got there?
The Peugbro turned Marty into a giggling track gremlin. Hunched over the wheel cackling as he locked up and four-wheel-drifted around corners to keep Moog at bay. Say what you want about either of these cars, that looked like a ridiculous amount of fun for both!
There are 2 types of people in this world. People who love Peugeots and people who haven’t driven them
i used to run a mk1 golf cabriolet on the nurburgring, had KWs and super sticky falkens under it, but mostly stock drivetrain. it was the MOST fun ive ever had in a car anywhere on earth. several hundred laps, several sets of tires and brakes, and memories that will never go away. what an absolute shitbox but what an absolutely amazing time.
@@ghomerhust You're a very lucky guy 👍
@@ghomerhust ive been looking into getting one of those as Jason Cammisa keeps saying its the most fun car he has driven
@@leocuntface yeah and he's a maniac so I'd love to experience one
Always loved the 206, shame you didn't get the GTI 180. Sports variant vs sports variant. So far it's been a bit unfair on the old pug, was very surprised to see how well it did against the swift considering it's just the pov base spec commuter version.
Looking forward to seeing you turn it into a 206 WRC tribute!
kinda agree.. but the 206 GTI is waay faster then the swift sport.. it's a 2 liter 16v so not really matching the swift in that area
If the Peugeot wins then Moog should get a clio 182 and then Marty can get the gti 180, or other way round even.
Exactly. Not sure why at all you would take the 1.6 over a GTi.
True but the 1.6 16v has a lot of potential wrt to modification. I have a 206 gti 180 for 12 years raced and daily’d never had issues, just wear and tear items nothing more
@@PoloRolo94 Did Australia even get the clio 172/182?
That’s the happiest I’ve seen Marty in a car. 😂
Honestly it was really contagious
Agreed, he sounded so giddy!
How can you NOT be that happy in a nugget like that 😂
That's one of the most fun videos I've seen on MCM in ages! I was laughing and cheering along through the race, and it was obvious that both guys were having a blast!
Looking forward to seeing more of this sort of content - getting back to basics, attainable cars, and just having a great time. Love it!
@@MisterSimplistic😅😅😅😅😅😊
The TU5JP4 is one of the better French 16-valve engines, on an armored cast iron block. Very amenable to modification. You can pull about ~150 horsepower out of it cheaply by changing the exhaust manifold, adding sharp camshafts with adjustable pulleys and an aluminum intake manifold from a Citroen C2 VTS, all topped off with tuning. Combined with the car's low weight, it makes for an incredibly fun driving experience :)
I wonder if they can find a whole TU5JP4S out of a C2 VTS - that would be a good upgrade on its own!
I agree, I have a TU5JP4 in a 1st gen C3 and while the car itself is garbage, that engine with a manual is so much fun to trash around and is incredibly reliable as well.
@@TheSgtAngry Same here with the Peugeot 206 Roland Garros and 1.6 i 16v 110 (TU5JP4). Great engine and very fun to drive everyday... :)
yeah idk where that mecanic have seen that 206 weren't reliable because that is obviously wrong, especially in this version !
I think when you port the had and put throttle bodies on it, it will do far more then 150
I love that most channels at this point in their career would be buying Mclarens and GTRs but these guys are still buying nuggets and having real relatable fun. By the way if Marty or Moog read this, I bought a Honda Beat because of you guys so thanks. 63 hp never felt so good.
My 830KG MK1 1.0 Yaris 67bhp is equal as fun 😁
Ehhhh if you look at a lot of what theyve been doing as they grew, it isnt very relatable unless you have a lot of money to burn. This is the first time in a while they seem to have gone way back to their roots, in the current era (what cheap fun things are people thrashing now vs 15 years ago)
@@aidantuckwell9191 and they will probably end up spending $10k on each car in the next few weeks. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to do that myself and probably will of my channel gets somewhere, but it’s hard to justify to do this not for UA-cam.
It's not all about hp... it's how you drive it, and the feels
With nuggets like this, they are able to go harder and have more fun with less serious business because the cars capabilities are so much lower. Cars like that are excellent fun to drive hard because you aren’t going to be like mustang bro wrapped around a tree.
With monster cars you have to be more serious and much more careful instead of just running them flat out.
I'm behind the 206 - the car that everyone hates but it's a plucky contender. Don't forget it's dad - 205GTi and other siblings- 306GTi6, 405Mi16, 106GTi... awesome cars. Can't wait to see the mods.
Superb video guys, it was so much fun tagging along 😀
Back when Peugeot made absolute weapons that were too fast for their own good but still affordable for a young lad. Slow by todays standards but back then absolute weapons.
I still love the fact the 208 GTI "kinda" runs its legacy. I know its turbo-charged, makes much more HP and the fun factor potentially goes down with all the electronics truly interrupting the ultimate driving feel but i'm just happy Peugeot didn't niglect completey the GTI lineup. Now a good used one is quite affordable where I live which is nice as well and definitely considering it a future car.
There’s some pure Gran Turismo vibes to seeing these two on a track.
Even sounds like an old Gran Turismo game with that tyre noise haha
Sunday Cup!
@@mightycarmods Tahiti Rd is where I learned to drive!
As they said, Sunday Cup vibes but MCM went way harder than I did at it lol.
Love the Nuggets!
Sunday cup, autumn ring.....mini
The Peugbro is still my fav as this is breaking new ground on a platform that both M&M have no worked on. I'm excited to see them track this again as they seem to be having a blast.
This could be the greatest showdown in MCM history. Also probably the most fun I've seen you guys have in cars in quite some time.
The amount of smiles and enthusiasm in this video is impeccable. Can’t wait to see more!
Those little 206's are known in the UK for being pretty bulletproof simple cheap easy to get parts for apart from rust and the odd electrical issue they're not that bad and you can buy one for like £500
I've seen people running 206s with no oil or coolant.
Let's be honest here, the 206 is a bulletproof car and cheap to run, the only issue would be finding parts in Australia where I'm guessing they aren't that common. In Euroland they're everywhere so you can just go to the scrap and find whatever body panel or part you seek for cheap.
Also this is the internet, the Americans won't be voting on online polls for French cars, because even though they've never seen one IRL they believe they're terrible "because French lol".
@@daktari nothing to add !
Burn it, worst car i ever had, almost everything broke even had to swap in a new engine.
@@ElySky95 strange, that's a truly solid car, no joke
Which engine it was ?
Their Achilles heel (very appropriately) is the rear axle - the trailing arms pivot on needle bearings which rot away along with the stub that they mount on and the rear wheels develop a large amount of negative camber, sometimes so much that the tyres rub the inner arches! Entire rear axle replacement required every few years. There are entire companies that specialise in supply of refurbed axles. It's not a particularly expensive or difficult job to do the swap at least. Possibly in the Australian climate it's not so much of an issue.
I can't remember the last time I saw you two having so much fun at a track day. Awesome content. Best channel on UA-cam! Can't wait for the mods.
This for me, is exactly what MCM is all about
I love them intensely driving their nuggets while the Yaris is relaxed and following them like a parent
This series turs out to be epic! Looking forward to seeing them modified!
yeah with tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust and tune, thats about all you'll need to jump to the next level. but it will be interesting to see what mods they decide to go with
This is a great series and awesome to see a cheap entry into track racing. Even better to see a couple of mates getting out there and having such a laugh and 100% just enjoying the competitiveness this encourages!
Thanks for returning to accessible cars that we can all relate to. New performance VWs and Lotuses etc are all very nice, but they just aren’t our reality.
Also, it’s always more fun to go fast in a slow car than to go slowly in a fast car!
What everyone has been thinking for a long time.
Agreed
When have they ever had unattainable cars?..Never have I seen a super rare or expensive car on here and I have been watching them since day one.
@@leejohnson6173 - Lee you old money bags you.
Wait here while I pop off to purchase my rare 270 with a built RB for a couple grand like the swift. Lol
@lee johnson apparently anything that isn't a nugget is unattainable to everyone that watches mcm😂
I love seeing the absolutely gigantic smiles while they are slinging the cars around in stock form!! This looks like so much fun!
That Peugeot can be faster without gas 😂 i owned one xd
I have an almost identical Swift Sport (same colour and all) that is in the process of being set up as a track car. So far it's had the interior stripped, suspension done, roll cage, race seat & harness, exhaust, intake, wheels, semi slick tyres, motor still stock and a Chopped keyring. Ran a 56 at the same track. Got cams and a tune in the pipeline. Would be great to compare and see your build progress. It's a ton of fun.
+6bhp for the keyring easy.
You should see if MOog would want to side-by-side them before he puts too much effort into his...
@@misturchips Sounds like a good idea to me, just need to get in touch with them somehow.
@@trentmcvey9249 there's and email in the channel about section.
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 Yes, but they say on their website that they rarely answer emails because they get too many
This is going to be an amazing series. I hope it becomes an annual thing, the ultra-cheap track nugget showdown. I just want to see these regular little cars no one thinks about stripped bare and loud as.
I'm super excited to see the weight changes once you totally strip those out
Tons of parts available to upgrade the 206. The S16 and XSi FWD are still ultra common in rally racing in Europe.
As a Peugbro owner i loved it, this will be an awesome series. And yes the backend of those baggets are way too light, witch is fun as hell. Can't wait to see the next episode!
Would you recommend them putting a bag of cement in the rear lol
Lighten the front to compensate
*Baguette.
@@2dcutout 🥖
@@leobrambs this video got me looking at French hot hatches. They're way more capable than most nuggets.
The 206 is a reliable beast, seriously this mechanic's opinion is surprising. Here in France they are still driving EVERYWHERE. They are very solid.
French cars are really poor reliability between 2004-2012 era.
The 206 is solid. The 207 with the 1.6 however is a tick bomb
Looking forward to marty learning about torsion bar suspension..! Lift of oversteer for the win!
I was just about to write the same thing
Lift off oversteer has nothing to do with having torsion bars vs coil springs. Both the Swift and the Pug have somewhat similar rear suspension designs (i.e. trailing arms) that provide zero camber control of the rear wheels which is why they are so eager to step out when you lift off.
@@ferrumignis this is not the torsion bar you are thinking about, in this case "torsions bar" refers to a specific sort of semi-dependent trailing arm suspension
@@ferrumignis the 206 lift off oversteers because of the rubber beam mounts. They allow the whole thing to twist, changing the toe + camber angles.
@@tiagobelo4965 Are you thinking of a Panhard bar?
Marty knows how I feel driving home every night at 8pm in an ancient 206GTI along the A70 from Edinburgh. Some long straight stretches and some hairpin bends. Always legal speeds but still great fun. I love the Peugbros.
mechanic straight up a dooche 'burn it" rally pedigree and WRC dominance
Looks that Marty was having much more fun on the Peugbro. Love the series . Keen to what will happen next. Great show
I really enjoyed the genuine experience of fun that you both had on the track. 😃
we need more european nuggets on this channel or any cars that the duo is unfamiliar with.
A spicy Clio would be nice
@Wirenfeldt1990 I wish Marty went for a similar era Clio Sport, I had one about 12yrs ago and have been thinking of getting another recently.
@@Wirenfeldt1990 A spicy Clio is a very good choice, best choice when it comes to French cars from the past 20/25 years... or a spicy Megane. What also could be fun is a '04/'05 Skoda Fabia 1.9 TDI RS if they can get one in Aussieland. Those 1.9 TDI engines make about 95~100kW standard but just with a basic tune it will do at least 120kW and with some reasonable cheap performance parts it will do well over 130kW... lots of potential for little money. TG has done a bit on it where one of those outpaced a Mini Cooper S... only but is that the TDI Fabia is very front heavy and with standard suspension it's terrible in the corners.
A sleepy Volvo please 😂
My mate’s a mechanic, he’s had a 206 for 9 years now. He hated French motors until he acquired it but he loves his little Pug and says it’s the best car he’s ever owned for value/dependability. Still goes and handles well too!
It's easy to forget how much location plays in, as here in Norway it's kinda the opposite, the 206 is cheap and easy to find parts for, the Swift Sport isn't sold in Norway, as Suzuki Norway only sells AWD Suzukis, though some people did special order some, so there's like 6 Swift Sports in Norway in total, parts having to be special ordered in some cases, as they don't have FWD bits at the Suzuki dealerships.
That said though, as a friend of mine used to work at a Suzuki dealership he owned one of the 6 Swift Sports in Norway, and test driving it both when stock, and when on coilovers and 18" OZ magnesium wheels, it is a car that is quite glued to the road, but their proportions feel strange, like the roof is super tall when stood next to one.
Haven't driven a normal 206, but they were incredibly common on the road, to the point of there being 206 racing leagues.
I did however get driving lessons in a 206CC as my grandmother used to have one, most I remember of that was how annoyed I got at not having low RPM torque, so exiting a roundabout in 2nd gear to go up a small hill, I ended up having to downshift into 1st, which I was not used to having to do at all.
Even though the Swift Sport was available in the UK, parts are still expensive and there is much less aftermarket support compared to European brands. That also affects insurance, my Swift Sport insurance was nearly 50% higher than a newer, more valuable and more powerful Golf GTi. The Swift is far more fun to drive though.
That Peugeot has massive potential, love the 206 great little cars
God damn that Peugeot 206 has got to be the most expensive $500 car I've ever seen
Yeah god damn 300 is plenty for one of those
Depends where you live. In Europe you can find parts for them really easily, because it's reached the right age that loads are getting scrapped.
I'd make someone pay ME to own it. Which makes it worth negative money
Welcome to the Australia Tax.
@@bwickham195 we are a looong way from Europe though so I guess it makes some sort of sense. A shame for a euro car enthusiast down here :(
I'm more excited about this series than I have been for ages. There's something so relatable about buying cheap little hatchbacks (not even the hot versions) a la what everyone learnt to drive in, then tweaking them.
I love this! As a swift owner I know exactly how the drive feels and its usually the most fun when the car you're battling it out with is around the same performance.
I actually cant wait for the mods in this series and the results of the mods, that was so fun to watch
This is by far my favourite battle you guys have ever done, its so even and you guys seem like you're having so much fun battling so close
I think if the peugeot had exactly the same tires as the swift, it would smash it, they look slightly skinnier on video. Pretty funny considering its a slow poverty spec 206 compared to a swift sport lol. Great video as always, i had lots of fun watching marty be so entertained and happy
The Swift Sport’s engine is missing about 25hp though, definitely needs some work because 100hp isn’t what this car usually has.
@@johnjuiceshipper4963same with the 206 it may not be 25 horses but at least 10
Should have spent the extra on the 206 GTI, he was too worried about the mods and stuff but the GTI would have probably faired better in the fan vote
The gti would be so much faster than the swift it wouldn’t have been a very entertaining video
@@georgeoliver8300 That's fine, Moog could've got a Clio 172/182. I've owned both and already know the outcome there though. :P
@@olliewebbuk They both weren't going to get french cars tho were they
@@olliewebbuk but he already had the swift.
Couldn't agree more. The GTI was the same price as Moog's Swift, prettier than the Swift (IMO), and would have spanked the Swift around the track. Plus I love to see cars we can't get here in the States.
Gotta freeze & hammer any sound deadening in that French quiet bucket for weight loss further-ing
Sending French nuggets way harder then they were designed for has been my entire driving life in the UK! Glad to see Australia isn't missing out on the fun
Biggest problem is the Peugeot parts cost the same as BMW/Mercedes in Australia !
@@edwardfletcher7790 yeah, meanwhile in Europe parts and maintenance for em is cheap as
@@edwardfletcher7790 here we are in Europe, where 206 parts cost about a tenth of parts for a Subaru legacy.
A 206 needs a bit more parts though. But it’s probably the cheapest way to go around here if you can fix the small things yourself.
@@autobootpiloot Subaru parts are always expensive unfortunately. They don't make enough cars to bring large volume discounts from parts suppliers like Toyota can.
I'm usually interested in track test segments of videos for about a lap and then I'm over it. Not this time though! It was so fun to see how much fun they were having. You could really tell they enjoyed being out there just thrashing those cars. Well done mates!
I have never seen Marty drive so hard and seem so happy. ❤
can't wait for the next episode, if you've ever driven a SSS you know that feeling of going into a corner at 'full speed' knowing you'll make that overtake.
Can't wait to see what comes of this, both cars are great, and look like immense fun! BTW, the rear end coming out on hard corners is (or was) Peugeot/Citroën hot hatch tradition, the 205 ,106, AX and saxo were known for having quite loose rear ends that could get sketchy at higher speeds, especially in less capable hands (also, if there is ever to be a follow up to what is looking like an absolutely amazing series, you guys should try to go a size smaller! When you get down to those sub 800kg "as standard" euro nugs you find a whole new realm of madness)
As the owner of a saxo +- 900kilo with fluids I can relate, they are so much fun. Don't have much trouble with the back end then again never tracked it and have wider tires
aygo's, 107's and c1's are great fun on a track
This is brilliant to watch, the MCM of old. Keep it up lads, loving this series so far.
There’s nothing quite like getting off of work and getting a new MCM video
Who needs sleep as well when there's a new MCM video, honestly? 😂
Marty's smile and laughter was infectious, was grinning just watching this.
206 will be victorious. I’m not crazy everyone else is.
If he had bought the 2.0 gti version maybe
@@stuctr walked away if he had a 180
Just sold an 180, called the RC where i live. It was such a cool car.
@@Vespastendert aw nice. Im rocking a gti as my daily, so much fun popping gears while cruising to work
If marty brought the Gti or 180 instead , those will blow the door away of that jdm overated hatch .
Kinda dumb pitting against a swift sport with a xsi .
This has to be the best track video they've done, looked like a blast out on the track and without spending much money
I think we can safely conclude that it doesn't matter what cars you are driving, racing your best mate in evenly matched cars with a splash of banter will always be a blast.
Honestly this is the MCM content I love best. Slow cars are by far the most fun on track below crazy fast race cars.
Am i the only one wishing the 206 winning the race? 😂 I hope they won't put an loud exhaust and just put on a High flow air intake cause it really sounds amazing with one.
Love the Swift Sport had an 2007 for 2-3 years. Great car!
I think we’re gonna have another 2SEXY moment with Martin falling in love with his peugbro, he’s gonna want to turn into a build, and I cannot wait! 😎
Who needs Grand Prix racing when you have this. Top entertainment and looks like you guys had great fun.
I can smell the head gasket and flat spotted tyres from here 🤣
This video takes me back. My first car was a 206 and say what you want but that car was so much fun for me. I got rid of it and replaced it with a 206RC that's still in my garage as my second car.
I complained about you not getting a 206 gti and getting a bottom of the range one but after seeing this a gti would wipe the floor with that swift. That’s the fastest swift and that’s not even the 3rd fastest version of the 206
The GTi has a 2.0L engine making a supossed ~180bhp, in which universe would it be suprising that it's faster than a simillary sized 1.6L car making 123bhp? In other news the Renault Clio 182 is faster than a 1.0L Toyota Yaris.
and a golf gti would wipe the floor with that poor 206 gti lmao
@@lol4224 the golf 4 is of the same era as that 206, it would so NOT wipe the floor with it.
@@lol4224 the golf gti of that era had less power than the 206 gti 180 and weighed a lot more… so no. No it wouldn’t
@@ferrumignis just saying I thought the swift “sport” would be faster than that
The racing was so good! Love to see you guys battle in such different and equally matched nuggets!
Derek from ViceGripGarage once said it’s way more fun to try to drive slow cars fast… you two proved him right with this one!
And he was the first person to say it
People have been saying this for decades.
captain slow also said that and nobody believed at that time :)
Great episode, super fun. Looking forward to seeing how the track times and fun change with mods!
As a longtime owner of a 206 RC, I don't understand what you're complaining about 206.
Imagin driving a sponge while turning and changing gears with a string
In Europe 206 is one of the most reliable cars. All engines are very reliable, they are cheap and easy to maintain and you have a plenty of parts everywhere. Also, it is the last car that was sold more then VW Golf. It is interesting how reputation of one car is changed in different regions of the world.
i really hope you make the 206 maaaad. maybe an ITB build rather than a turbo?
That would sound maaaad! And on a tight track like this one, it would probably do quite well.
+1 for the ITB build, those french NA engines sound mad when they are allowed to breathe
@@nizzan91 So does the Swift engine.
Agreed - the gearbox on the 206 wouldn't last long with a turbo. It was designed to cope with small capacity NA SOHC engines - the torque of a turbo will snap it like it's a carrot! There is a factory gearbox upgrade available, but probably impossible to find in Australia (and needs some other expensive mods to make it work).
Just had a smile plastered on my face the whole episode! This is going to be a great series!
Freaking love you guys! You really made this Automotive UA-cam thing what it is today and we would all be poorer without you. Thank you SO much for doing content like this and inspiring all us little channels! Life goals guys, life goals!
Edit : "You should be heel and toeing" ;)
The series have been waiting...this is 🔥🔥
I hope you will run similar tires on both cars thru all the upgrades to keep that part equal.
I actually have the 1.4 turbo version of the swift sport and you can really throw it around due to it being a lot ligher than the older 1.6 NA model and extremely torquey at the low end
That really was the best and most laughed at episode of MCM I've ever watched! As a Peugeot owner here in Ireland I very tempted to get a 206 to just take to the track for the same reasons as the two of you, for the Shits and Giggles 🤣
Looks like you guys had a blast!
Please WRECK 'em! Looking forward to seeing how y'all will mod these cars.
So not true about French cars, issues and parts. I've done hundreds of laps in 40 degree heat in a Renault Clio Sport from 2001, with 200,000kms on it with zero issues. Cheapest, most reliable track car I've ever had. Parts are cheap from the UK and very easy to get.
Have to see both of these get turned into track cars and then run again with the same cam setup. so good
I want to see what those tires look like after that punishment hahaha
What a mechanic.. this 1.6 16v Peugeot engine is an absolut rock, no major issues known and super reliable and easy to modify.
Delighted to see how close the french nugget got to the swift.
Makes me feel like the post-build battle will be awesome!
This is what car racing really should be about... Real cars being driven hard, none of the fake cars in the big races now that have nothing to do with their production counterparts. Well done guys, looked like you had a ball!
Never trust a mechanic who says French cars are rubbish. They're actually very good. Find a competent mechanic with skills, tools and appreciation for these cars and they cost no more than any other brand to maintain. Also, DIY what you can. I love French cars and will continue buying them. Full of character and great to drive.
Usually when mechanic is recommending you a certain car, what he means is he is recommending a car that he will make a lot of money on from all the future work on it.
@@DashCamSerbia literally not true considering how reliable the swift is
Skills, tools, and appreciation are jack shit when you cannot get parts and the engineering is shit.. 😂😂😂 Never trust a person questioning a mechanic that does mechanic work everyday... because as a mechanic, I would always go for the easier to work on and parts galore over the other..
@@ChevTheMechanic Parts for Peugeot are readily available these days. Engineering is excellent.
Wicked race guys. A pleasure to watch. Great multi camera angles!
I can't wait for you to find the BSI unit that Peugeot uses instead of an ecu 😂
the dear BSI and BSM, the internal contacts break down continuously, and many of them do not have a spare part at the factory,,,,, (you have to look for an astute electronic to repair them).🎉
They have an ECU, the BSI controls some of the auxiliary electronics, the engine can still run without a BSI with a custom ECU just fine.
I read BS unit at first
Correct BSI controls accessories, but also the gasoline pump, (which is what breaks down the most in the BSI, as it carries more tension). Here in the EU there is a lot of second-hand market, since it is not found new.
I had a 2006 Swift Sport as a daily, probably the most fun I've had driving a nugget. It came with front and rear sway bars + I added coilovers and RE003 tyres. The car handled like it was glued to the road and really could take a beating, lol!
Said it in the first video, I can't wait to see how Marty tackles lowering the rear beam axle on the peugbro 😂 absolute nightmare.
Im pretty sure the swift has the rear suspension design. Cause I know the gen after this one does
@@GTSW1FT definitely got springs on the back of the suzuki, I have fitted a few to that model.
Down here in the antipodes where the roads aren't salted the beams usually come apart without too much drama.
This will be fun and a return to the roots of the show.
PeugBros Unite!
I was just looking for a new phone case and windscreen mount for in my truck at work so I have just ordered the Quad Lock on your recomendation, Thanbks guy's... Keep up the great content
That Swift is going to get swiftly chopped so hard once the 206 is in track mode 😂
I'm Portuguese, and Peugeot 206 are very common here, and the complaints you mechanic put on the Peugeot, we complaint about Suzuki. That peugeot engine can be built to be over 200HP on N/A form... It's expensive but doable... The Peugeot/Citroen are not unreliable, not any more than any other low cost car... Keep oil changes on about every 10k KM and it will take you around the world! And the chassis on that 206, with the right suspension and tires, will wipe the floor with that Suzuki!
I really hope Marty is going to go completely nuts on modifying the Peugeot. I'm thinking adjustable suspension, tires, ITB build or engine swap, maybe both. Make this new 2Sexy build, only more scuffed.
2scuffed
Magnificent matchup. Way tighter than I was expecting. Excited to see how these progress
Considering Marty spent less than half of what Moog did on his car, and how well Marty's 206 was keeping up at the track, I think Marty got the better base car deal here.
The 1.6L 206 also is a base spec road model. The sport version has a 2L (S16/XSi/GTi).
Both of these cars look like an epic fun time I looking forward to seeing what y'all do with them
Yeah French Nuggeot!
I didn't believe it until I experienced it. But pugs with some mods love to lift off oversteer. I went for a ride in a 306 gti6 (? There are maybe a handful of them in Australia literally) but I instantly loved the mity pug after that. Such a capable platform
It depends were you live in brit bits are cheap and there everywhere.The Suzuki is Japanese bit are dear and there not as popular.
Weve had a 206 with the same engine and over 6 years nothing has broken other than a worn wheel bearing
This is why you go for an Italian hatch back you get the speed of the swift but the reliability of the 206 😂
I hope to see italian sh*boxes in future seasons 😂
A Fiat or Alfa Romeo would be interesting to see on the channel
@@JK061996 that’s if there not to expensive in Australia I know the prices are going up in Europe
My chopped keyring has always been on my 206 CC 2.0L key. Best little car I've ever owned but the mechanic is right, literally can't get parts for them. Can't wait to see what you do with it.