Making a SUPER ALLOY knife! Can I do it??? Part 3

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  • @CalebWayneMcCready
    @CalebWayneMcCready 3 роки тому +80

    I can’t believe Timothy doesn’t get more recognition. He’s so wholesome. Watching him package those bottle openers and saying thank you I could tell he genuinely is thankful for the customers. Absolutely love the content. I’ve been waiting for the day you were gonna mess with inconel. Keep up the great content man.

    • @meirbookatz8304
      @meirbookatz8304 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed he deserves alot more recognition!

    • @davidtoews5584
      @davidtoews5584 3 роки тому

      You're absolutely right. Wholesome, honest, sincere, and just so darn likeable. Watching Tim's videos always makes my day.

  • @remcovanvliet3018
    @remcovanvliet3018 3 роки тому +47

    Read the comments, Tim. This stuff needs to be heated to a specific temp, then quenched in water, to anneal it.
    Inconel is used, among other things, to make compressor blades for turbofan engines. What you just did, heating it up to a dull red and letting it air cool, is part of the normal operating cycle for these parts, and will do NOTHING to alter their hardness!
    Carefully sift through the comments on part 1 & 2.
    I've spotted some very good advice on how to anneal and harden inconel 718, from people who work with it daily in a professional capacity.

    • @DuriensBane
      @DuriensBane 3 роки тому

      Also used in boilers for the steam tubes, being red hot means nothing to inconel

    • @rustyshakleford5230
      @rustyshakleford5230 3 роки тому

      I used inconel and hastealloy for the drain and supply plumbing in my house. Never know when someones gonna dump nitric acid down the sink!

    • @bradameerbeg2154
      @bradameerbeg2154 3 роки тому

      I think that was an attempt to normalise? Not annealing?

  • @dustydustydusty
    @dustydustydusty 3 роки тому +7

    In the factory we used a grinding wheel about 3ft in diameter and ran around 300 RPM on the inconel hooks. Very coarse but worked well.

  • @FriedRys
    @FriedRys 3 роки тому +11

    Big fan of the odd materiel builds. Keep up the great work.

  • @NavyVeteran1776
    @NavyVeteran1776 3 роки тому +7

    From a mailman to you…….Please make sure you put your labels on a flat surface of the box (at least the bar code) please please please 😂😂😂

  • @DaHashirama
    @DaHashirama 3 роки тому +14

    Not bad my friend, I hated working with inconel for my aerospace projects but I love your commitment!!!

  • @amsmithonline
    @amsmithonline 3 роки тому +7

    Dykem fumes. They'll do it every time.😵

  • @dustydustydusty
    @dustydustydusty 3 роки тому +4

    The factory was WWI era and so was that grinder. We had a press that was still operating driven by leather belts. The press was originally designed to manufacture steel helmets.

  • @verdantpulse5185
    @verdantpulse5185 3 роки тому +4

    I've messed around with some stellite alloys, they can behave similarly. The best way I've found to think of it is 'abrasive loaded'. It behaves as if there's a not-so-hard matrix withreally hard inclusions in it. As long as your cutter/abrasive can reach past the inclusions and rip the matrix out wholesale, the going's good. But just a little bit of dulling of the cutting tip and all the inclusions get burnished down into a continuous surface that's really resistant.
    My most successful project with the stuff is a chip-budding grafting knife. Slim blade that's sharp for ages and is utterly corrosion resistant to any sanitising solution.

  • @mrhatch117
    @mrhatch117 3 роки тому

    I love watching you work with Inconel…. As a Mechanical Engineer that works with lots of different Inconel’s, (625, 617, 718 and Inconel X) I feel your pain. 718 is extremely difficult to get the heat treatment just right. The guys I work with have tried (and failed) with several different methods. We finally got the recipe right, but all the prior ones lead to cracking……

  • @SOP83
    @SOP83 3 роки тому

    I got a few pieces of metal that I think might be made from the same stuff.
    Some of them came from a turbine manufacturer, extra pieces in their scrap bin.
    Some other ones came from lockheed, they said they were used on their space project and were "high tech nickel alloy". They made medallions out of it and gave them to everyone that worked there during that time. I've always been fascinated by alloys and metals.

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 3 роки тому +9

    Certainly wicked material. I'm curious as hell about edge retention.

    • @KageStelhman
      @KageStelhman 3 роки тому +1

      Possibly not all that great, Inconel usually has an of hrc 45-50 after Hardening

  • @gymleaderjake1579
    @gymleaderjake1579 3 роки тому +1

    Next Knife Steel Suggestions
    Stainess
    CPM S90V
    Non-Stainless
    CRU-WEAR

  • @ChrisMc67
    @ChrisMc67 2 роки тому

    Watching some old ones. I love how every time he speaks to Martin he's always looks like he's not interested and just wants to work. 😂 Awesome channel man 👍

  • @newagelumberjack
    @newagelumberjack 3 роки тому +2

    You should totally make a double bit splitting axe! I loved watching that video of you making that throwing axe it is insane.

  • @hannable3871
    @hannable3871 3 роки тому +3

    Wow Tim I just realized that your at 111k subs. I can remember finding you channel and you had like 300 subs. Time flys congratulations.

  • @Hydrazine1000
    @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому +5

    Just make sure you have enough control over the furnace temperature! You need to be able to set 1750 °F, 1350 °F and 1150 °F for the process.
    If you want to age/precipitation harden the Inconel, you _need_ to solution anneal first.
    · 1 hour at 1750 °F
    · Water quench
    · Age at 1350 °F for 8 hours
    · Cool in-furnace to 1150 °F
    · Age at 1150 °F for 10 hours
    · Cooling in air to ambient temperature

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. 3 роки тому

    Very amazing work there timmothy. Wow that's crazy 2 think where it started. Love seeing your videos timmothy. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend timmothy. Forge on. Keep making. God bless.

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 3 роки тому

    Tim, I am finding myself really rooting for your success both with your shop and with your subscriber numbers etc. I truly appreciate your skill set and the manner in which you share your skills with the world. Keep your forges lit eh!

  • @fredrichardson9761
    @fredrichardson9761 3 роки тому +1

    I think we're doing a really good job on that knife! Sorry, I just really like that you include your viewer in the credits - feels like I'm doing more than sitting and watching a video! 🤣 Can't wait to see you test the edge on that prototype though - seriously cool.

  • @bbotelhoHI
    @bbotelhoHI 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Tim, my great grandfather was a local blacksmith back in the day, and was known for his monel spurs. I know aviation sheet metal guys HATE working with monel rivets. Might be a fun meta to play around with in your shop.

  • @KnightsWithoutATable
    @KnightsWithoutATable 3 роки тому

    Always do your rough grinding for a belt sander using a ceramic or harder material belt.

  • @rustonbrown810
    @rustonbrown810 3 роки тому +2

    i wake up every morning to hear tims laugh

  • @Sausketo
    @Sausketo 3 роки тому

    You should make the bottle opener dual purpose, like make a press die that allows you to twist off as well!

  • @1kreature
    @1kreature 3 роки тому

    Which inconel are you using? Can it be solutionized for machining?
    May need to anneal it to restore workability but be careful to use the right temperature/process depending on your exact alloy.

  • @met9009
    @met9009 3 роки тому

    Its been years so im hesitant to say anything but this old shop a friend worked at he use to make hydraulic fittings out of inconel. He said the way they would go after it was a bit on the aggressive side and get in there but you you took light cuts it would work harden and you were done. That with respect to cut rates, speed and feed. I keep wondering how a surface grinder with coolant and good hard wheel would fair. If nothing else from what I am seeing seems like my friend was right. :D

  • @benjaminpritchard6107
    @benjaminpritchard6107 2 роки тому

    Inconel and Maraging Steel have about the same melting point, I'd be super interested to see if you could forge an inconel damascas? Food for thought! Love the videos keep it up!

  • @Makesmefeelgood
    @Makesmefeelgood 3 роки тому

    Bought a bottle opener because of this one! Love love love your videos.

  • @COM70
    @COM70 3 роки тому

    I am more interested in a perfectly functional knife more than a perfect looking knife. Always function over form if I have to choose.

  • @OOOHBILLY
    @OOOHBILLY 3 роки тому

    Fingers crossed it works great

  • @nissan300ztt
    @nissan300ztt 3 роки тому

    Inconel 718 is 55% Nickel content. Extremely hard. And extremely heat resistant.

  • @KageStelhman
    @KageStelhman 3 роки тому

    @Timothy Dyck... If you quench the blade after holding at that temperature for that long you're going to wind up Solution Annealing it... Best way to harden it is to Take it out of the Forge after it's soak and Blast it with an Air Compressor

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому

      Inconel 718 can be hardened, but the hardening mechanism for Inconel doesn't rely on fast cooling rates. It's a precipitation hardening grade. Precipitation hardening, also called "ageing", is foremost a temperature driven process, it's not cooling rate driven.

    • @KageStelhman
      @KageStelhman 3 роки тому

      @@Hydrazine1000 I know that as stated in my comments yesterday on the last video :)

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому

      @@KageStelhman Sorry, bit of a misunderstanding then. Blasting with air (or better: water quenching) is part of the process, but it's *not* the step in the process that actually hardens the material. Solution anneal, quench, and then age/precipitation hardening.

  • @bigtsperspective5831
    @bigtsperspective5831 3 роки тому +1

    Ceramic rods? If it work-hardens maybe use ceramic rod to polish it up

  • @patricke0n
    @patricke0n 3 роки тому +1

    Wonder what the grain looks like. Like, maybe it grinds better from one direction than from another.

  • @Aco747lyte
    @Aco747lyte 2 роки тому

    Just signed on 2 videos ago and loving it! Best from Wendi UK

  • @HelloWorld-987
    @HelloWorld-987 3 роки тому

    I want see from you a small double head axe for the next project and also keep the great work you are amazing ;)

  • @phillipnichols4125
    @phillipnichols4125 3 роки тому

    Would ceramic or diamond impregnated abrasives be an option? Interesting to watch you learn with us about this material!

  • @JusttheEdge
    @JusttheEdge 3 роки тому

    Inconel is 50-55% nickel so it will most likely load up in the abrasive like aluminum and copper since it's so soft. Don't see this working as a knife, maybe for stabbing but not for anything edge related. It does contain chromium but it doesn't have enough carbon to form carbides so it's only there for corrosion resistance. Super cool nonetheless.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому

      Inconel 718 can be aged (precipitation hardened) to about 46 HRC. But that happens by formation of nanoscale intermetallic particles (precipitates) during the aging process, Ni3Al, Ni3Ti and Ni3Nb. There is not enough carbon around for any significant amount of carbide formation.

  • @Slide100
    @Slide100 3 роки тому

    Very cool series. As far as finishing the surface, what about using a machine like Shurap uses? It magnetically holds the knife and oscillates back and forth under (I think) a stone. Comes out with a nice finish. Might be worth a look at a couple of his videos.

    • @Demolishionist
      @Demolishionist 3 роки тому

      I don't think inconel is attracted to magnets at all

    • @scotttod6954
      @scotttod6954 3 роки тому

      @@Demolishionist could just use an adhesive to attach.

    • @Slide100
      @Slide100 3 роки тому

      @@Demolishionist I looked it up. Depending on which inconel it is, they are attracted to magnets to varying degrees. Might work.

  • @olgakhomyakova4760
    @olgakhomyakova4760 3 роки тому

    Just fix the grinder somewhere and hold the knife so that you have more accurate grinding

  • @douglasfathers4848
    @douglasfathers4848 3 роки тому

    WoW Tim you have more patience Than me mate that knife would be in the scrap bin now . :)

    • @douglasfathers4848
      @douglasfathers4848 3 роки тому

      @@UlyssesDrax Yer your write mate didn't look at it like that . Cheers. :)

  • @joshlego4775
    @joshlego4775 3 роки тому

    I wonder what the grain structure looks like at 500x on that material after etching

  • @Rowrowthegravyboat
    @Rowrowthegravyboat 3 роки тому

    Hey Tim, Would you be crazy/brave enough to swing an axe at a piece of Inconel? I would be really interested to see what it happens when a properly hard piece of steel hits this super alloy.

  • @vikeskie
    @vikeskie 3 роки тому

    love the musical grinding!!

  • @jarniskat
    @jarniskat 3 роки тому

    Make a file out of that material, maybe it will be great because it work hardens?

  • @winer9098
    @winer9098 3 роки тому

    The fumes from the blue stuff make you go funny

  • @joehackett9471
    @joehackett9471 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @joefergerson5243
    @joefergerson5243 3 роки тому

    Love this guy!

  • @andrewsmith3608
    @andrewsmith3608 3 роки тому

    I wonder if its possible to san mai a piece of high carbon steel in that material? acid etch may look interesting!

  • @superpedro7295
    @superpedro7295 3 роки тому +1

    I use to drill a lot of inconel and its not fun , it sucks

  • @Eyeball1975
    @Eyeball1975 3 роки тому

    I would buy a bottle opener, but $120 is a bit steep for postage! Oh well, love your vids anyway :)

  • @mtravis4
    @mtravis4 3 роки тому

    I believe inconel is used to cast the turbine wheel in a turbo charger.

    • @yelims20
      @yelims20 3 роки тому

      they make water/acid tanks with it too

  • @stevenwest1494
    @stevenwest1494 3 роки тому +1

    Super hard steel knives are the worse, as if you let them get too dull, you have to remove a large amount of material taking a long time just to get it sharp again. You spend too long sharpening it, and not enough time using it.

  • @mennopieters3512
    @mennopieters3512 3 роки тому

    Already was friday here when posted lol from holland here

  • @handyskills1397
    @handyskills1397 3 роки тому

    Can you forgeweld inconel ?

  • @OriginalMomo
    @OriginalMomo 3 роки тому

    Can you make Damascus fromTitanium and Incanel? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @orion7353
    @orion7353 3 роки тому

    Maybe use a shaper? If it doesn't want to come off... Just make it 🤷‍♂️

  • @markmetzger5430
    @markmetzger5430 3 роки тому

    Work hardening seems to be the culprit. Can it work harden beyond what diamond abrasive can cut?

    • @mannihh5274
      @mannihh5274 3 роки тому

      No way - diamond is the world's hardest material ever.

  • @OrdynskyiVladyslav
    @OrdynskyiVladyslav 3 роки тому

    Something tells me that diamond instruments might do the trick)

  • @danielsalaverri4021
    @danielsalaverri4021 3 роки тому

    I wonder it trizact belts would do better at removing material… 🤔

  • @ThePirateGod
    @ThePirateGod 3 роки тому

    you need to tri some trizac belts.

  • @XtreeM_FaiL
    @XtreeM_FaiL 3 роки тому

    Tomorrow will be saturday. There is a video then?

  • @kestona7741
    @kestona7741 3 роки тому

    Tim for Prime Minister!

  • @Xaninho999
    @Xaninho999 3 роки тому

    Go for harden a little more sharpning :)

  • @fisherholmsfly
    @fisherholmsfly 3 роки тому

    Should have titled it, "Watch a super alloy kick a bladesmith's butt"

  • @NCrowe
    @NCrowe 3 роки тому

    tried hot grinding/fiing?

  • @vincentchouinard7292
    @vincentchouinard7292 3 роки тому

    You're welcome !

  • @eugenevanbinsbergen6944
    @eugenevanbinsbergen6944 3 роки тому

    Its amazing to me how this material barely even makes sparks

  • @greenthumbprepper8653
    @greenthumbprepper8653 3 роки тому

    TGIF TIM

  • @grndzro777
    @grndzro777 3 роки тому

    Andn for our next knife request we have Tungsten

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому +1

      Oh boy, you must _REALLY_ enjoy Timothy suffer! While it would be really interesting to see, it would pratically be impossible, since you need really specialized stuff to machine tungsten-based alloys.
      And if you do manage to have a tungsten knife machined, you'll have one that's excessively heavy (more than twice as dense as steel) and one that's also brittle and easily chipped.

    • @grndzro777
      @grndzro777 3 роки тому

      @@Hydrazine1000 Ya ya it was in jest. The machining for Tungsten would be an absurd amount of carbide. I still want to see a decent sized machined tungsten knife.
      Maybe he could heat it up as hot as he can get it and then use a carbide grinding wheel :)

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому +1

      @@grndzro777 The problem is that the stuff is essentially self-harming, by which I mean that it's sooo dense _and brittle at the same time_ that dropping it might cause chipping. It will be nigh-on impossible to give it a knife edge without its edge getting chipped during shaping and sharpening.
      I've worked with tungsten parts, the anvils for a compression test device, and just dropping a 1" dia by 1" length piece on the floor might chip it.
      If you manage to make a knife out of tungsten, you'd better not drop it!

  • @alexyates9774
    @alexyates9774 3 роки тому

    Hell yeah

  • @jvmiller1995
    @jvmiller1995 3 роки тому

    I am a huge fan and long time subscriber. I learn a lot watching you but you are killing me dragging a file backwards. They only cut in one direction and it dulls them to drag them in the wrong direction. I know it is more work to pick up the file each time but like my daddy told me if a job is worth doing it is worth doing right. But for real I do love watching you try new things out of your comfort zone. You are very gifted.

  • @frankheger5185
    @frankheger5185 3 роки тому

    👍👍

  • @fluxburner1636
    @fluxburner1636 3 роки тому

    More Martin.

  • @markbrock4260
    @markbrock4260 3 роки тому

    I don't have a lot to say but I want to feed the algorithm so, here's a comment.

  • @railroaderreddoor76
    @railroaderreddoor76 3 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate your videos. I not sure about breaking them up. Personally I like to watch the whole movie. If someone is telling you to split up your builds for extra views... I don't agree .Personally I will watch your build
    From start till finish. Breaking it up sorta sucks. I have been following you for since the beginning. And will continue to follow your path . The rub is, please go back to your roots. It was more enjoyable that way 2🖖🤘👍🏽

    • @railroaderreddoor76
      @railroaderreddoor76 3 роки тому

      Sorry about my crappy English .I am a blue caller un educated person. 💙 I hope that you get the point of what my illiterate ass was trying to say. Keep the fire hot.🤜🤛

    • @gaz0463
      @gaz0463 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. It’s a bit frustrating to have to wait 24hrs for a video that contains very little progression on the actual build. I love this channel because he has really great ideas but it can be frustrating!

  • @mikebeatstsb7030
    @mikebeatstsb7030 3 роки тому +1

    YESS Timothy..! Keep up the fantastic work brother..! 💯👍✅‼️
    Love you and all that you do here..
    100 per behind you..
    And massive fan!
    But I just have to say it.. That bottle opener of yours mate.. 🤷🏼
    It's not the one sorry to say..
    And this is just my personal humble opinion,...
    But that bottle opener just seems like the absolute complete opposite of all the key elements wanted in a good decent bottle opener mate...🧠💥
    Like... Lol.. ☺️.. Don't mean to laugh at you... More with you,...
    But... What were you thinking with that one aye brother..?
    Not the right proportions or actually even the right design either... Basically... Ide chalk that one up to a speciality art project and draw a line under it.. Then fully change the whole make up of it and come back a new with a much better much more user friendly, useful, ergonomic, pleasant, pretty, fun design of one instead. Is what I would do if I were you mate.. Just my little 60 pence for ya the..
    THAT'S A FREE ONE BUD!
    Enjoy ❕👍🙃✌🏽

  • @CapApollo
    @CapApollo 3 роки тому

    4 videos on a knife?

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 3 роки тому

    Really enjoying this iconel project. But wait, there's more! A chisel, bullet, graver, body armour plate, hatchet, punch, drift, hammer? And 2 grand for more material. 😃

  • @Sqtgdog
    @Sqtgdog 3 роки тому

    You need diamond stones to sharpen this.

  • @docschro6847
    @docschro6847 3 роки тому +1

    Yes first 20 comments, excellent work as always. Also I am loving my 1913 Blackhawk hatchet

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 3 роки тому

    Also big shout out to sackin metals, those dudes rock.

  • @Gh0st_____
    @Gh0st_____ 3 роки тому +2

    Can you make a knife out of tungsten?

  • @ianmcnab9534
    @ianmcnab9534 3 роки тому

    I'm wondering if it's something to do with the speed of the belt sander compared to the hand file. Like the belt sander is so fast that instead of getting a good bite into the metal it's instead knocking the abrasive off the belt, where as the file is going way slower( obviously) and is able to get purchase.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 3 роки тому

    I think you're running your sander too slow.

  • @codygrimm8791
    @codygrimm8791 3 роки тому

    That's a nickel titanium super alloy. I would say you're gonna lose a lot of tools

  • @DonnyHooterHoot
    @DonnyHooterHoot 3 роки тому

    Nice?

  • @sunilkachaliya5818
    @sunilkachaliya5818 3 роки тому

    Can you ship me to India

  • @markjednoroz9585
    @markjednoroz9585 3 роки тому +1

    pro tip, buy your steel from the mill.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому

      As replied elsewhere: Any idea what the minimum order quantity is if you go mill-direct? Any idea about lead times? There is a really good reason for stockholders to exist.

    • @markjednoroz9585
      @markjednoroz9585 3 роки тому

      @@Hydrazine1000 mill times quote 6 to 8 months out, actual has been about 30 days.

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 3 роки тому

      @@markjednoroz9585 if I may ask, what alloy were you buying, what diameter/size and how much?

  • @gaz0463
    @gaz0463 3 роки тому +4

    Love your channel but did you go to the Alex Steele school of filling out your content with very little content? It’s a bit frustrating to have to wait 24hrs to watch very little happen with regards the actual knife build. You have such great and unique ideas but you string it out too much.
    I just know I’m gonna get hit for this but it’s just frustration born out of my impatience to find out how this super alloy stacks up. I think I would rather wait 2 or 3 days for a longer video that shows more build progression in one video.

    • @bignasty2933
      @bignasty2933 3 роки тому

      So then wait

    • @gaz0463
      @gaz0463 3 роки тому

      @@bignasty2933 🤔

    • @kasparroosalu
      @kasparroosalu 3 роки тому +1

      He could do one 30 min video or five 10 min videos (half of whos content is padding) and get 5X advertisement money. Viewer retention is also higher on shorter videos.

    • @gaz0463
      @gaz0463 3 роки тому +1

      @@kasparroosalu oh I fully understand why he does it this way I’m just pointing out, purely from a viewer stand point, it’s frustrating to watch because you’re just getting very interested in what he’s doing and he cuts it short and you have 24hrs to wait for him to cut it short again. The thing is his content is great and different to most others which makes it compelling watching but, for me, it’s done in a frustrating way.

    • @kasparroosalu
      @kasparroosalu 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@gaz0463 I kind of figured you know what's up but there are people (children for example) who might not understand this. As a viewer I share your frustration. In a way content density is an indicator of where the channels priorities lie.

  • @magnusshawn4698
    @magnusshawn4698 3 роки тому

    First like Eva!

  • @MFKR696
    @MFKR696 3 роки тому

    Using steel files on anything that's harder than steel is not exactly the best idea I've ever seen thrown around... Hopefully you're aware of how to re-"sharpen" your files. Otherwise you just wasted a bunch of money.

  • @Cretan-un6ul
    @Cretan-un6ul 3 роки тому

    first comment!

  • @markjednoroz9585
    @markjednoroz9585 3 роки тому

    steel alloy* so yea still steel

    • @TheDistur
      @TheDistur 3 роки тому +2

      It's mostly nickel and chrome.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL 3 роки тому

      Steel is Iron+Carbon.

  • @Sinque111
    @Sinque111 3 роки тому

    Merci bien !