Or honestly, move it out of Silver. It's incredibly strong when everyone else is stuck with 'normal' Silver augments, as opposed to this vs Gold or even Prismatic choices
@@definitelynotfrank9660 It would fit right in with Trash to Treasure, the "reforge completed items into Artifacts" one (which is already Prismatic itself). And that one already feels very powerful in some instances but doesn't seem too OP amidst the other Prismatic options. I kinda wonder if Fine Vintage could even get very slightly _buffed_ if it were Prismatic, like getting the items a round quicker or something, just because the expected power level goes up. Maybe justification for putting it at Gold but yeah it needs a tweak regardless.
I noticed how strong the new Zz was on PBE and how early you can get them through portals and augments. I told someone, "Surely this is a test for them that won't go to live." How gloriously wrong I was.
There is a raid boss kyle variantion too with this augment, u play 7 story weaver, and Giga Buff the kyle with ur aegis, zeke, and so on. For me, i usually go for 4 reapers, pick couple of zeke and aegis, the rest is is like the typhoon, and armor pen on kindred. its not even funny, entire enemies backline alrd gone by the time the tornados is down. With how strong the comp u can make wether its zrot heavenly or not, the augment probably has to go in the future. the only time this augment is balance, is when u get it as 3rd augment.
My favorite strategy is to play it with pandora items to completely brick it! Yeah, because items are transformed every round they can't stay on the bench for 3 rounds and you effectively have dead augment :D
Component buffet is good but it's like any silver augment that builds strength over time. It's got spikes that are paced out differently but you lose out on immediate combat power and have no guarantee to get that power back. Low rolls happen all the time with it.
Anvil Augment/Portals is how the game should work normally. It's a double-edged sword. On one hand, it gives more player agency. On the other, it punishes reroll in the mid game by taking up bench space.
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I absolutely love fine vintage so much. It’s my favorite augment ever right now. It’s so much fun. I do think it is a little too strong considering I’ve gotten it like 6 times and so far gotten first place every time… I hope that it just gets nerfed not removed. I really like the anvil part but idk how else they could nerf it.
They could move it to Gold or Prismatic, and that's it. Chances of getting it will be lower, and if you get it, people will probably have better Augments to beat you in response
I like to use storyweaver with this the most because they have amazing early game to keep your HP so you can get more support items later, heavenly just have shit early game. just zzrot eagis raduin and you have infinite frontline while gigabuff your kayle
Confirmed myth: Fine Vintage doesn't work with Pandora's Items Just lost a game with them because Fine Vintage looks promising even at 3.2, even when I am aware of the said bug
The devs can't think of every possible incompatibility between every augment and disable them from being offered together. It's not even a bug, Pandora's changes the items. It becomes a DIFFERNT item. If your Statik Shiv becomes a Dragon Claw it obviously isn't the Shiv anymore.
@@kxiii9063 I was just stating that it isnt the non plus ultra. Legendary capped boards should win against anything that isnt a chase trait or high cost 3 stars.
yeah dude my perfect 7 fated destroyed by this stupid comp.. even all my carry hold best in slot item doesn't matter this cockroach had best lick in the universe
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ah hell nah
Oh come on Mort, not this one!!
oh no
Mort, please not this one. It is the definition of fun
noooooooooooooooooooooo
I bet they nerf it by making it drop random support items instead of anvils. Think that alone will balance it
Or honestly, move it out of Silver. It's incredibly strong when everyone else is stuck with 'normal' Silver augments, as opposed to this vs Gold or even Prismatic choices
@@JiorujiDerakothey can make it prismatic, it will justify the op-ness of the augment
@@definitelynotfrank9660 It would fit right in with Trash to Treasure, the "reforge completed items into Artifacts" one (which is already Prismatic itself). And that one already feels very powerful in some instances but doesn't seem too OP amidst the other Prismatic options.
I kinda wonder if Fine Vintage could even get very slightly _buffed_ if it were Prismatic, like getting the items a round quicker or something, just because the expected power level goes up. Maybe justification for putting it at Gold but yeah it needs a tweak regardless.
Or make it drop after 6-8 player combats
They nerfed it tho, gem is now no longer dropping golds
I noticed how strong the new Zz was on PBE and how early you can get them through portals and augments. I told someone, "Surely this is a test for them that won't go to live."
How gloriously wrong I was.
I'd rather face this than the same bard reroll comp every game
Fr man feels so helpless seeing that shit
Yeah, this is at least hilarious. Bard is just frustrating.
Imagine a Bard reroll + Fine Vintage
There is a raid boss kyle variantion too with this augment, u play 7 story weaver, and Giga Buff the kyle with ur aegis, zeke, and so on.
For me, i usually go for 4 reapers, pick couple of zeke and aegis, the rest is is like the typhoon, and armor pen on kindred. its not even funny, entire enemies backline alrd gone by the time the tornados is down.
With how strong the comp u can make wether its zrot heavenly or not, the augment probably has to go in the future.
the only time this augment is balance, is when u get it as 3rd augment.
Thats very high on my to do list with Blue Kayle buffs coming next patch
@@leduck goodluck mr leduck
My favorite strategy is to play it with pandora items to completely brick it!
Yeah, because items are transformed every round they can't stay on the bench for 3 rounds and you effectively have dead augment :D
Great videos, keep going ! Amazing intro music in the beginning. Is there I can find the full version ?
this and the anvil instead of random component augments are so busted for silvers
Component buffet is good but it's like any silver augment that builds strength over time. It's got spikes that are paced out differently but you lose out on immediate combat power and have no guarantee to get that power back. Low rolls happen all the time with it.
Anvil Augment/Portals is how the game should work normally. It's a double-edged sword. On one hand, it gives more player agency. On the other, it punishes reroll in the mid game by taking up bench space.
even before the 3 round nerf i taught the best way to balance it is either make em random or give less options. Still think thats it
More options would fix it, would reduce consistency
I was wondering if I would see this video... It didn't disappoint
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I absolutely love fine vintage so much. It’s my favorite augment ever right now. It’s so much fun. I do think it is a little too strong considering I’ve gotten it like 6 times and so far gotten first place every time… I hope that it just gets nerfed not removed. I really like the anvil part but idk how else they could nerf it.
They could move it to Gold or Prismatic, and that's it.
Chances of getting it will be lower, and if you get it, people will probably have better Augments to beat you in response
Do you think a support item quantity limit would be the best balance?
I'm eagerly awaiting the Leduck fine vintage zephyr stacking video for Set 11
I like to use storyweaver with this the most because they have amazing early game to keep your HP so you can get more support items later, heavenly just have shit early game. just zzrot eagis raduin and you have infinite frontline while gigabuff your kayle
I think Riot gonna disable it next patch for sure.
It is the same problem with Twisted Fate Legend in Set 9, Gunner/Deadeye Zeke Spam.
What's the music at the beginning of the vid, I love the epic remix of TFT's theme
I just used this augment to transform 2 temporary items given to me into support item anvils :^)
Even though that is clearly unintended that is exactly how Fine Vintage is supposed to work.
Very cool, but music is too loud
Yep, the tracks went a bit too hard
I fucking love Fine Vintage. Won a few games with it and it's just deceptively good and also very fun to play with.
I got this yesterday and didn't hit any ZZ'rots :(
I personally love full virtue of the martyr, randuin's and aegis 8 bruisers
Confirmed myth: Fine Vintage doesn't work with Pandora's Items
Just lost a game with them because Fine Vintage looks promising even at 3.2, even when I am aware of the said bug
The devs can't think of every possible incompatibility between every augment and disable them from being offered together. It's not even a bug, Pandora's changes the items. It becomes a DIFFERNT item. If your Statik Shiv becomes a Dragon Claw it obviously isn't the Shiv anymore.
I actually really like the idea of the Zerg build, i really hope Mort balances it without killing it :D
How did you get the music at the start of the video (until 1:10)? it sounds so good one might even say it slapps - anyone got a link?
Upping this, i want to know bad
the intro is too epic
The background music was a bit loud this video
Tried today. Got 1 zzrot in like 10 anvils
I follow your guide and won. Not even close fight every game when got lvl 9
just 5 more teams that "destroy meta" and maybe we can see less than 4 ppl every lobby trying bard/aphelios reroll
NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO HAVE 6 PEOPLE GOING FATED APHELIOS CARRY!!!
fun vid, gotta try this aug
Locket Duelists is back babyyy
I will never understand why it's a silver and not a gold augment
i did ultra buffed kayle was fun and realy strong late 10/10 augment
I LITERALLY JUST QUED A GAME AND HIT FINE VINTAGE 2-1 LMAOOO
Fine vintage is way stronger than trash to treasure, despite the fact that you could choose your support item instead of random
I wish people found out about it later.. I was having so much fun with it
So broken that i didn't get this in 40 silver starts. And when i will get this - it would be 2 zz'rots at max. 1 in 100 games.
Counterplay: also pick fine vintage, choose 5 zephyrs and remove enemy zzrots
i have a 100% fine vintage win rate so far, I can't believe I don't see people abusing it more.
Imo the most broken one is infernal contract in hyper roll
Playing reroll yasuo is also a super strong way to play fine vintage
Thank you LeDuck now Rito will nerf ZzRot to the ground where it'll be unplayable or even remove fine vintage from the game
Just make them wait 8 rounds.
I had this augument the other day and I was like "how tf is that silver augument" xd
Played it today. Hit zero voidlings went 7
I played a lobby with three people doing this. I think I got first. Turns out annie completely countered the zzrots LOL
dont worry guys I'm gonna keep going 8th with this augment to prevent the nerfs
Getting 3 Zephyrs is not fun for the enemies
I think the nerf will be 4 player combat
i belive in zel'udyr
just tried this and got 1 zzrot out of 6 items :)
The rot consumes
I hơp they dont nerf this too hard since it so funny
While it is strong In my experience it loses to capped out legendary boards
I mean everything loses to capped out legendary boards.
@@kxiii9063 I was just stating that it isnt the non plus ultra. Legendary capped boards should win against anything that isnt a chase trait or high cost 3 stars.
first pick everytime
This comp is so dumb. I love it
i got 0 zzrots when i took it, hahaha…
yeah dude my perfect 7 fated destroyed by this stupid comp.. even all my carry hold best in slot item doesn't matter this cockroach had best lick in the universe
Noooooooooooo dont showcase heavenly comp, people fight over kayle and bard lemme enjoy my comp !