i know it's obvious but i think the most annoying weapon is the phlogistanator i know bland choice but i just hate it because it makes w+m1 pyros more common
@@ThatNerdGuy0 Contrary to popular belief, it's not, there's quite a few differences, the most noticeable being a slower firing speed and complete inability to be repaired. A list of all of the differences are documented on the TF2 Wiki page for the Sentry Gun if you're curious.
@@nutzeeber yeah, I haven't played much tf2 but I was wrong, it isn't just a mini sentry. The exact stats are: Has a slower firing speed than a normal Mini-Sentry. Cannot be repaired or have its ammo refilled. Cannot be destroyed by the Engineer who made it - it can only be destroyed by an enemy robot or automatically destroyed when the wave ends or the Sentry runs out of ammo. Cannot be wrangled, but still receives canteen buffs. Is 66% the size of a normal sentry compared to the Combat Mini-Sentry's 75%. Is not affected by the building health upgrade (always has 100 max health). However, it is affected by the Sentry Firing Speed upgrade.
Using the extra mini, which means you get two mini sentries, is actualy a really good way of getting a fk ton of crits on the Frontier Justice, just like payload defence & Control Points.
Nothing against you guy actually a funny comment. but it literally has one like and UA-cam put youre comment in top ten on my list. Srsly UA-cam what the fuck does top comment mean to you people?
@@kingnothing8570 You rood. In all honesty, I think UA-cam accounts both how recent and how much likes. Occasionally some comment with barely no likes can get top for a while.
@@luminosity01 a line from futurama describes it well "I have nothing that can help you just wastes of time" "Thats impossible because my time is worthless" plus I'm just genuinely curious about how programs work because UA-cam for example is horrifically built.
...so the classes in the game who by design CAN'T do that amount of damage in any reasonable amount of time without needing to first get close to them.
@@J4hk2 The only classes I can think that cant do 100 damage very fast is medic and maybe spy? Scout does some big damage up close and if he's not then he's got the pistol to chip it down before the gets in the mini's range. Mini's do best when catching you off guard, that's usually the problem, not the health.
@@codaboi138 Again it's the need to get close to do the damage. Because that means time spent taking damage from the thing before you can get in that close range. Scout/Pyro both have this problem., at best mitigated with pistol/shotgun but that assumes they even have them.
@@J4hk2 to be fair both scout and pyro are already at a disadvantage against any sentry. Heavies can take them out fairly easily though may be difficult in a large fight. Demos can 1 shot minis and soldiers 2 shot them. Or 1 shot if they take only 10 damage or are being built
@@Engieman909 That's the thing though. Regular sentries are somewhat designed to have a "downtime" to them, when one is destroyed there is a period where you can move in with the classes that would be otherwise disadvantaged with sentries being present. It gives them room to breathe, which is a much fairer game design. You don't get that with minis, they are too easily replaced. With regulars they get destroyed and then there is a period of time where there is either an absence of them or the opportunity to catch the attempt to replace them mid-build, both allow the less sentry-capable classes some means to be of use. You also on that note get a sense of accomplishment when destroying regular sentries, they are harder to replace, especially if they were a higher level and if they were a lower level you can feel you helped stopped it before it got any stronger. None of that feeling of accomplishment is had with minis.
Kinda weird seeing the evolution of Dane, from back when he was a more defensive Engineer back in the days of the Sigafoo Save to now being much more independent using the Shotgun Pistol and Gunslinger. Can't wait for that updated Rescue Ranger video
With the evolution of a class, follows the evolution of it's players. The Engineer used to be much more effective with just Leveled Sentries. Seems like the recent changes to the Engie in the past few years has been a focus on spreading out his viability - which I fully support.
People hate the Gunslinger because: 1- It makes the life difficult to scouts. 2- People seem to be able to kill a heavy, but not to deal 100 damage against a stationary object that has only 48 DPS.
Not so easy to take out a mini when (if you're like me and learned this trick from Dane himself!) you put the mini-sentry in a bush that's virtually 100% opaque so you can't even see what the hell you're being shot by, let alone having to deal with the Engi himself firing Frontier Justice Crits at you from when his Mini tagged a random scout earlier, often at the same time.
Also another fact of the mini sentry: in a normal sentry, when they see a spy disguising, the normal one will shoot until the spy is fully disguised, while the mini sentry will keep shooting the spy, even if he has gone fully disguised.
I've actually had this save my ass once as there was this spy behind me that apparently NO one in my team noticed on the last point of Frontier and the mini started shooting behind me and finished them off before I was able to switch to my shotgun. Mini sentry a real one for that
@@glass_currency I think you are misunderstanding and maybe just don't have a grasp on the entire 'history' of STAR_ controversy. The thing STAR_ did as a joke was a long feud with collaborator and probable lover jerma985. It was revealed they are still on amicable terms. The thing Dane (and this comment) refers to in the video is STAR_ quitting TF2 (which is fine, people get bored of games and change interests) and totally disrespecting the community (which is not fine and quite frankly is childish). Hope that clears things up. As far as we know (or at least as far as I know), STAR_ was not joking.
I feel like the Gunslinger's triple punch crit is an amazing idea to replace random crits. It makes it so that melee is useful, but also doesn't make your attacks too powerful given how you need to land your hits perfectly.
Great video! Has good humor, pokes fun at another engie we may love or hate, and informs players about the best robotic hand ever made and how fun it is to use. I enjoyed watching.
A response from op isn't some fucking academy award. He's just another dude. Dane pretty much reads all these comments, replying to one of them isn't a big deal. This "notice me senpai xd" circlejerk is trash. Please stop. Let someone express true gratitude for a great video and not downplay it as a cry for attention.
Uncle Dane: "My aim with the shotgun is actually pretty sub-par compared to most high-level players." Me: "Well then I just _SUCK_." Thanks for the Soul Silver music Uncle. Brings up good memories.
He also used that amazing notorious song from Pulp Fiction that nearly nobody knows the name of, which is Misirlou and was composed by Dick Dale by the way.
I personally love the strat of placing a turret down at the spawn, picking 200 metal again, and just run with a built sentry to the front line, cuz the time it takes to re-eploy a mini-sentry is so fucking low that you basically can outshoot a scout. And with the remote controller it also becomes quite high-range since turret spread is constant.
He lost interest in TF2 some time ago and moved on to Overwatch streaming, which caused a backlash from the community. He responds to any questions about TF2 with unprecedented (deserved/undeserved, cross out where appropriate) hostility, and as of December last year (when someone asked him about that on Twitter), some people STILL didn't move on or take a hint that he's gone for good.
4:22 Star_ was well known to dislike the minisentry as it was before its rework and, upon moving on from making tf2 videos, began to show a distaste toward the tf2 community because a ton of people kept bugging him about making more tf2 videos. There's a lot more to it than just that, but it's pretty much what Dane was referring to in a nutshell
The gunslinger is actually good for two subclasses: The battle engineer, AND the support engineer. If you need temporary protection to get your dispenser fully upgraded, the mini sentry is affordable and does the job well enough to deter attackers.
You neglected to mention that combat mini-sentries also sport a 35% faster turning speed, which is why they're significantly more effective at tagging fast moving targets and makes circle-strafing them more dangerous even with only 48 dps.
@@DabroodThompson His "nasty comment" was him being 100% in the right. It's just written version of the points he makes in the video. Seriously go watch his video and self reflect on your crappy behaviour as a human being, instead of acting like a child.
@@Linkfanoftheyear Not really 100% in the right. Ster had no idea how to communicate with people, which is what caused this whole situation in the first place.
@@Linkfanoftheyear STAR's video shows exactly how correct Uncle Dane's comment about him is. Between complaining about the popularity that he has (while many small youtubers struggle off the ground) and deleting dissenting comments it underlines what a control complex he has. Example straight from his video: it's not enough that people will watch anything he makes (because they like the way he makes it), they must like it for X reason too. I wonder how many artists in history never had the chance to create whatever they want and yet have a guaranteed income off of it?
@@Linkfanoftheyear Man shut the hell up, Ster was justifiably shat on by the community for being an egotistical douchebag who couldn't take a small amount of fire when he tried to branch off into other games. I'm not saying he deserved the hate for choosing to play something different, but he arguably did worse by throwing his entire fanbase under the bus because a minority of people disliked what he did. And only now, after 3-4 years of him sitting on his ass and letting his reputation rot in a dumpster fire, does he come back to make a response video, and all you people do is eat his shit up and praise him like he was the main character in some Shakespearian tragedy. Unlike your short-term memory ass, I'm not going to let Ster's little catharsis of his make me forget how he treated his fans and the platform he was given.
I don't know if you ever addressed this, but the Gunslinger in general is also very good to focus your attention on someone else's sentrygun entirely. In pubs, many people assume that they can take an Engineer because he can't heal his Sentrygun faster than they're dealing damage - Gunslinger Engineers can place their buildings down to distract from the Lv3 Sentry while using Rescue Ranger to safely heal the Lv3 Sentrygun alongside the other Engi.
I just had a thought. Crazy, right? Logic: Gunslinger + Widowmaker = a very offensive engineer who just keeps placing minis. Gunslinger + Frontier Justice = Engie that likes cheeky mini spots, and has his friendly demo boost him to interesting spots to put his minis, which eventually get destroyed by a soldier, which enables revenge crits.
90% of the comment section: “[Insert something about the shots at various content creators here]” Me: Is nobody going to mention how overtly horrific the process of attaching that modification to the engineer’s arm must’ve been?
@@DHRtheTHIRD there was an actual comment, which dane responded to, but i think it got deleted. someone probably has a screenshot that you can find on reddit or something
Found this on Reddit: The TF2 Debate Between Ster And Dane **Well, I've Seemed to stumble upon a small conversation in Dane's new video, And i'll be posting it here.** >"*It's unfortunate that even you think I'm relevant enough to still talk about 2-3 years after I said something about an in game item. Because I'm not at all relevant, but you must still be thinking about me enough to bring me up more than a year after I've even played the game. Like, taking shots at me benefits you somehow? - like why do you even care enough to bring up such an irrelevant old loser? Are you disappointed that after quitting the game my videos still get more views than yours do or something and you need to try and take me down a notch or what? Or maybe I just tainted the use of the glorious mini-sentry and you're really spiteful about that - which is more sad. Good ole' Uncle Dane didnt quit on you guys like he did! He still only knows how to play engineer and defines himself on this one specific thing he will never let go of and can't even comprehend somebody else doing so. Like I tell everyone, please move on. This type of attachment is not healthy. We broke up a year ago.*"-Star The Reply? >"*I feel like you mistook my comment on your disrespect towards the TF2 community as a jab at your content, or the decisions you made to move on from the video game you didn't feel like playing any more. It wasn't. I don't care what game you play. My only criticism is how you felt the need to distance yourself from the TF2 community in such a juvenile and unnecessarily harsh way. The only reason I brought it up in this video was because the "Mini Sentries are cancer" meme still has a lasting effect all these years later (even though it's not necessarily true anymore) from your videos because - yes, you did have that much impact.*"-Uncle Dane And The Final Reply From Star_. >"*I'm sorry, I left in a harsh way because I do not have a significant interest in what was at stake anymore (like a youtube channel profiting from tf2) -- So I found it easier to say things like "every single update valve has made in the last 3 years has been riddled with game breaking bugs, competitive was a complete failure, and it did take them 3 years to fix simple bugs with the minisentry, how incompetant and distant from your community can you be" without worrying what the diehard fanbase of the game would say about it and how they would feel about me. But, you still have those ties so I understand that you want to look better than me infront of them and continue to support the half finished lazy updates they put out despite how much flak any other developer would get for what they do. I continue to be harsh about it because you and everyone else - DESPITE how harsh i've been - still think I'm important enough to drag into this nonsense and get even further away from what I'd actually like - everybody moving on. I tried very hard to not be important to this community anymore, but I wish I would have seen a long time ago that would be impossible. I could have just continued receiving praise from a community I didn't care about anymore by staying quiet about how I actually felt, leading viewers along on the premise that I might return to your favorite game one day and keeping more of my following by being dishonest - which apparently is a much more mature way to handle things.*"
I 100% agree with you, Dane. Almost anything but minisentries annoys me; snipers, (face stabbing) spies, random demoknights charging at you, pyro surprise attacks, soldiers mindlessly juggling around with me, random crits, random people attacking or walking into me as I'm a spy, the list goes on. But never have I found a mini-sentry an annoyance, well maybe that one time I was using the Rocket Jumper on Hightower but I always found it to be just a fair weapon. What you're saying in this video is exactly what's in my mind but I've never really told that to people, and you did right now. Thanks! By the way, recently I've been using the Wrangler + Shotgun + Gunslinger combo a lot, and it is just so damn effective! Your sentry basically becomes twice as strong (96 DPS) with thrice the health (300) which only costs 100 metal and builds in mere seconds!
llucllumador He left the community without telling anybody, despite being the biggest TFTuber. He always constantly talked about hating the Mini-Sentry, and people still hate it to this day even after it's been nerfed because of him. Here's his reply: m.imgur.com/a/cj4Zg
Mr Instigator It’s almost as if he wasn’t having fun playing a game that the devs don’t care about anymore. I’ve got over nine thousand hours on the game and I can wholeheartedly understand why Ster up and dropped the game on the spot. You eventually just reach a point where you go, “I really have played it all, I don’t care anymore.”
I have a strange gunslinger and it was worth every penny. I've always loved weapons that force you to play differently and more risky, which is why I adore the gunslinger, the huntsman, and the loose cannon
This video was actually very entertaining to watch, and I greatly enjoyed it as I do most of your content. You're a cool and nice guy, and thanks for being that way.
It's literally insane how, no matter the situation, a scout will always somehow find a way to jump in from NOWHERE and steal a metal pack. Even if you build a dispenser right next to it, even if there's a metal pack right over where a scout can easily grab, even if your team is desperate for a defense, a scout will always run in and snatch metal right out from under you.
A while ago I accidently got rid of my Gunslinger, mainly cause I had three at the time so I wanted to clean out my inventory and hopefully get new stuff. Then didn't realize I put all three of my Gunslingers to craft... But, I did get a new one recently, so that's good.
Wow, why the hate? What did Muselk do that pissed you off? I can at least understand the salt about star_, I don't fault him for voicing his opinions, but he knew he'd get hate for that. Whats wrong with muselk?
Obvious pseudonym Swell guy, I watch him a lot but he has gotten flak in the TF2 community (particularly the competive group) due to the 'pug fiasco'. Long story short Muselk explained how to get into PUGs (about 3-4 years ago), the steam groups to join etc. This led to an outbreak of a lot of newbies and unprepared people flooded the Lobbies for a time. That or some people just dislike Muselk, idk.
I don't like Muselk because I don't find him funny and (at least when he used to only play TF2) all his content was pretty much the same thing. I guess that's cool if you like that, but personally his personality really grated on me. Also his video titles.
***** I would say a mixture of the two. He has gotten gamer burn out over TF2, having played it for about 4-6 years. He also has grew in hatred for the TF2 community due to the constant pestering of 'when the next TF2 video'. That being said how Star_ handled his departure from TF2 was not... professional. He left a single video stating he would be taking a 'break' from TF2 and would be trying around new games. Afterwards he never posted a video on how he was done with TF2. He kind of just did the whole 'if I simply ignore TF2 enough, no one would ask' but people asked and annoyed him to the point to where he called the TF2 community (on stream) a bunch of 'fucking idiots'. I feel both parties were at fault. The fans of Star_ shouldn't have tried forcing him to doing something he doesn't want to do and Star_ should have had better closure than just a maybe and a vanishing.
DURRR STER NO DO WHAT I WANT HIM TO DO, BETTER HARASS HIM ABOUT IT AND THEN GET TRIGGERED WHEN HE GETS ANNOYED BY US BOTHERING HIM ABOUT IT LIKE ANY HUMAN WOULD, DURRRR STER BETTER DO WHAT I WANT HIM TO DO, HE NO GET TO DO WAHT HE WAN DO
I know this is really late but you really help me enjoy the game as much as possible with your reviews and also help me get better at playing engineer so thank you
Star used to be very popular in the TF2 community for making TF2 videos. He was known for having a deep hatred for mini sentires and that kinda spread out as a meme. Eventually he abandoned TF2 and UA-cam in favor of streaming Overwatch and other games on Twitch. His only activity on YT is his second channel "ster 2" where stream highlights are uploaded.
It was bad to begin with. All I'm hearing is that Dane is one of those babies who can't let ""the old ster"" go. Hope he looks back on this and realizes his childishness.
The reason why scout mains hate it so much is because it is a HARD counter, if a soldier is picking at your sentry you can equip the wrangler and take him out, or the shortstop, if a scout wants to take down a sentry they have to switch or let their team do it, I still think the gunslinger is balanced, just you said it like a guy with half a brain would get it
The Rattle in the Book scouts shouldn't even be trying to kill the sentries. If they somehow succeed, then either a) it was badly damaged beforehand or b) the sentry was in a terrible spot
Thomas Murrell I think you guys don't understand. If a spy is good, a pyro can become useless against him. If a Heavy is good, a scout can be useless against him. But with a Scout and engineer, without even trying, the engie can completely shut down the scout.
@@thomasmurrell9832 Normally that's the case, but when it's easily spammable and can be put in Scout's main area of effectiveness, it can be pretty unfair.
Ster is an asshole honestly. He got frustrated that his non-TF2 videos got less views, even though he knew that the content that a lot of people liked from him was his TF2 content, especially with Jerma. Does that mean he should have forever just made TF2 content and fucked around with Jerma? No. But he takes every chance he can to shit on the audience who made him popular. Do I blame him for switching to streaming when it's a better way to make money? No, but it would help if he didn't shit on those who got him where he is today. I doubt he enjoys streaming Overwatch day after day either, that seems like it would get pretty tiring after a while.
star doesn't owe you anything, stop acting like a betrayed kickstarter backer. Also he takes every chance to poke fun at anything, that's all he does, not his fault that the tf2 "gibs video slave-star" kiddies gave him so many chances.
Frisky Bits I think ster would have gotten in his place with or without tf2. he was always going to make it because he is good at vidgams and is enjoyable to watch so I dont think it is the tf2 community that put him where he is, just hard work and dedication edit: and sure he gets pissed off when people mention tf2 and videos at him. it happens at least once every stream so yeah. just imagine being poked every day at least once
Firsky bits isnt saying that he owes us anything. He is just clear stating that Star_ is shitting over the very community that GAVE him the money he receives. Without us he would very likely be much much MUCH smaller. Id be suprsied if he had over 50 viewers without the tf2 community.
Oh boy, am i happy, i recentley installed TF2 and i got the gunslinger as the first item ever!!!!! At first i thought it was absolute trash, since i was only able to use mini-sentry. But thanks to this video!!!!! I tried it out, and it was EPICCC in multyplayer! Not at all good in Man vs Machine. How come this is my most liked comment
@@dinonuggiesguy4847 why do you care about numbers that serve no meaning or purpose other than to make you satisfied and show how many people agree with you
Dane is saying that STAR_ started the hatred towards mini sentries, but that STAR_'s opinion shouldn't be respected as he doesn't even respect his own fan base (the TF2 Fan base)
4:22 Yikes, this comment certainly didn't age well. Coming back to it and hearing it after the news from Ster today makes it all the more believable that he was done being controlled by the tf2 community.
My new favorite load out, never realized just how much of a threat they are to the enemy team, had half of the red team on 2fort just focused on trying to destroy my mini sentry placed inside between the front doors of our base lol, we won and I was in second place for our team as engineer believe it or not. Thanks for the great video
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Which weapon do you think is the most annoying weapon in the game, Uncle Dane?
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Lol made a vid for one comment
Freddie TF2 LMAO WOT
Freddie TF2 the best melee in the game direct crit XD
i know it's obvious but i think the most annoying weapon is the phlogistanator i know bland choice but i just hate it because it makes w+m1 pyros more common
Dane: Because you can't shoot in two directions at once
Beggars Bazooka: Hold my beer
Panic Attack: CAN I COME TO? I'M AT 30 HP! I GOT SPREAD -_- DADDY DON'T LEAVE ME! :C
why don't you have an oscar awards yet?
cool
Splash Damage: *Takes shot*
This comment is perfect
Uncle Dane: Mini-sentries are useful. My irrational brain: Mini-sentry small and weak. Sentry big and strong. Sentry is good, Mini-sentry bad
you are heavy TF2
@@nacnud2115 heavy is actually deep and methodical while having a PhD in Russian literature
@@siluss it isn't cannon
@@JulioCesar-ps1ot it is though?
I swear to god y'all are dumb
Hopefully they don't patch this one.
IT,S Uncle Dane
funny
Uncle Dane is a very gud sentry exploit man
Uncle Dane fight ster (star_)
Uncle Dane that would be as absurd as one guy saying at forums scout's speed should be lowered to make dodging meaningful.... wait...
Imagine the sheer power that the Engie could wield if he just took off his glove *and* used a melee weapon.
@@isaac922it’s literally just a mini sentry
@@ThatNerdGuy0 Contrary to popular belief, it's not, there's quite a few differences, the most noticeable being a slower firing speed and complete inability to be repaired. A list of all of the differences are documented on the TF2 Wiki page for the Sentry Gun if you're curious.
@@ThatNerdGuy0disposable sentry is smaller and have even less health I think
@@nutzeeber yeah, I haven't played much tf2 but I was wrong, it isn't just a mini sentry. The exact stats are:
Has a slower firing speed than a normal Mini-Sentry.
Cannot be repaired or have its ammo refilled.
Cannot be destroyed by the Engineer who made it - it can only be destroyed by an enemy robot or automatically destroyed when the wave ends or the Sentry runs out of ammo.
Cannot be wrangled, but still receives canteen buffs.
Is 66% the size of a normal sentry compared to the Combat Mini-Sentry's 75%.
Is not affected by the building health upgrade (always has 100 max health).
However, it is affected by the Sentry Firing Speed upgrade.
Engineer's right hand is removable so he can equip the gunslinger, like legos.
He just has Medic keep the hand in the fridge like that one Spy head. You know, for safe keeping.
I think he always has it. It’s just that when he’s not using it, he’s wearing a glove, which completely conceals it.
@@donovanjoseph737 This is actually the case.
What happens if you equip the short circuit and the gunslinger at the same time?
@@pomm2452 Nothing, the Short Circuit is a separate entity.
One time in mvm, one of my engis had a gunslinger named "mister fister's nipple twister"
Honestly it made me laugh when I saw it
The gunslinger's taunt just makes this better
How can i unread this?
What idiot uses minis in mvm
@@Crowfather7 using mini sentry's frees you to shred giants with your Widowmaker
Using the extra mini, which means you get two mini sentries, is actualy a really good way of getting a fk ton of crits on the Frontier Justice, just like payload defence & Control Points.
"and hit the bell or else i'll die"
NOW THIS IS REAL ADVERTISING LMAO.
Nothing against you guy actually a funny comment. but it literally has one like and UA-cam put youre comment in top ten on my list. Srsly UA-cam what the fuck does top comment mean to you people?
@@kingnothing8570 You rood.
In all honesty, I think UA-cam accounts both how recent and how much likes.
Occasionally some comment with barely no likes can get top for a while.
@@kingnothing8570 why would you care about likes in youtube comments lol
@@luminosity01 a line from futurama describes it well "I have nothing that can help you just wastes of time" "Thats impossible because my time is worthless" plus I'm just genuinely curious about how programs work because UA-cam for example is horrifically built.
The robot man will die if u don't hit like
Ah yes the gunslinger or as i call it
"The rock/shed/bush that fires bullets"
Lowkey tempted to rename my Gunslinger to "They hide in the props"
@@tehrik0020 PTSD ensues
@@tehrik0020 imagine getting killed by "they hide in props"
*Vietcong intensifies*
@@tehrik0020 The walls **SHOOT BULLETS**.
0:00 Delfy's intro
4:22 STAR_ and the non-existent return
11:18 Muselk's rancho relaxo videos.
Lorewalker Choo M. D. 🤯
Lorewalker Choo M. D. I miss tf2 muselk
@xtc well I wouldn't blame bim, he probably wouldn't be half as popular if he did tf2 videos
10:16 Mr Paladin
@@Monkey_XDD Who cares about TF2 when you can make millions ?
Yippie kay yay!
H A V E M Y C H I L D R E N
I love how delfy took the joke and moved on when ster just got triggered like a 12 year old
fuck off
yep, that's how you take a joke :^)
Delfy, I think you are a robot.
Can you confirm or deny?
I've once seen a default scout running into a lvl3 sentry and then typing in chat "sentries are balanced". he'll make a great scout main
should have gifted him a lime green gibus
jUppers This is the best comment on this video, and it's barely even related.
It's at 3:59
"...people who can't seem to do 100 damage to a stationary object"
holy shit that shade
...so the classes in the game who by design CAN'T do that amount of damage in any reasonable amount of time without needing to first get close to them.
@@J4hk2 The only classes I can think that cant do 100 damage very fast is medic and maybe spy? Scout does some big damage up close and if he's not then he's got the pistol to chip it down before the gets in the mini's range. Mini's do best when catching you off guard, that's usually the problem, not the health.
@@codaboi138 Again it's the need to get close to do the damage. Because that means time spent taking damage from the thing before you can get in that close range. Scout/Pyro both have this problem., at best mitigated with pistol/shotgun but that assumes they even have them.
@@J4hk2 to be fair both scout and pyro are already at a disadvantage against any sentry. Heavies can take them out fairly easily though may be difficult in a large fight. Demos can 1 shot minis and soldiers 2 shot them. Or 1 shot if they take only 10 damage or are being built
@@Engieman909 That's the thing though. Regular sentries are somewhat designed to have a "downtime" to them, when one is destroyed there is a period where you can move in with the classes that would be otherwise disadvantaged with sentries being present. It gives them room to breathe, which is a much fairer game design. You don't get that with minis, they are too easily replaced. With regulars they get destroyed and then there is a period of time where there is either an absence of them or the opportunity to catch the attempt to replace them mid-build, both allow the less sentry-capable classes some means to be of use.
You also on that note get a sense of accomplishment when destroying regular sentries, they are harder to replace, especially if they were a higher level and if they were a lower level you can feel you helped stopped it before it got any stronger. None of that feeling of accomplishment is had with minis.
0:10, YOU DONT HAVE THE GUNSLINGER EQUIPPED IN THE SFM PICTURE! MY LIFE IS RUINED!
It’s just like with lazy purple and the how it feels to play engineer video
Oh my god
It is under the glove
@@dapperfield595 It always is.
Its in the glove
"I see the mini sentry as a regular sentry you dont have to babysit" try telling that to lazypurple xD
Meanwhile, I AM THE DEFENCE
@@michaelfinlay1412 lazy, what kind of defense is this ???
Keko Rules I AM THE DEFENCE
Dane: uhhh
*SWING YOU WRENCH LIKE A GODDAMN MADMAN CUZ THEY KILLED YOUR BABY!!!!*
@@megarayquaza9054
Regular Engineer: They killed my baby! THEY MUST DIE!
Gunslinger Engineer: Whatever, I can just pop out a new one in 3 seconds.
9:26 you really just said "yoink"
I think in the background maybe
Indeed.
love your vids
Sometimes you need a little less gun...
no. M O R E G U N
no.....its......NEW WEAPON!!!!!
Sometimes you just need a little gun.
You just need a gun
Instead of gun,I prefer using my Hamon
Kinda weird seeing the evolution of Dane, from back when he was a more defensive Engineer back in the days of the Sigafoo Save to now being much more independent using the Shotgun Pistol and Gunslinger.
Can't wait for that updated Rescue Ranger video
With the evolution of a class, follows the evolution of it's players. The Engineer used to be much more effective with just Leveled Sentries. Seems like the recent changes to the Engie in the past few years has been a focus on spreading out his viability - which I fully support.
What will you name your new Dane?
Great Uncle Dane
Grunkle Dane
Something that definitely isn't a phase, like Punk-le Dane
Digs at siN/Delfy, Muselk and STAR_. Brave boy, Dane, brave boy.
TheSpyCrap well he made fun of delfy and he took it well. Whereas he directly critisized STAR and he took it like a salty 12 years old.
TheSpyCrap muselk? how?
TheSpyCrap How did he criticise Muselk?
11:20
subtle muselk roast for the people asking
None of those care about this game anyway
THEORY: Engineer always has his gunslinger equipped, he just covers it with the glove
He does. How do you expect him to equip it in the first place? He had to chop off his hand!
Actually it always has been i guessed it right when i was 9 year old coz its kinda common sense
Makes sense to me
@@fim_1927 u knew about this game and its characters at the age of 9?
tylazer MK not that really the only thing i knew about it was his glove that has a gunslinger in it
For a moment i through i clicked on a Delfy video
Because it fucking is
Inb4 Delfy is really Uncle Dane incognito
Dirk Diggler
Holy shit u right
Oh shit
Epic gamers tips and tips to have best gamer glitch
People hate the Gunslinger because:
1- It makes the life difficult to scouts.
2- People seem to be able to kill a heavy, but not to deal 100 damage against a stationary object that has only 48 DPS.
It's smaller than a heavy, so that may have something to do with the hate
It's easy to destroy an unguarded minisentry but not so much when you have to fight an engie with a shotgun at the same time.
its kind of hard to do 100 dmg to a sentry with a market gardener
Not so easy to take out a mini when (if you're like me and learned this trick from Dane himself!) you put the mini-sentry in a bush that's virtually 100% opaque so you can't even see what the hell you're being shot by, let alone having to deal with the Engi himself firing Frontier Justice Crits at you from when his Mini tagged a random scout earlier, often at the same time.
Also the main thing with it is that it has the SAME range as a normal sentry, which just adds to the annoyance factor.
Its the funslinger if you are the engineer, but saltslinger if you are on the other team.
No, it is the funslinger, cause it slings the fun out of the game
@@Ph0n3numb3r Haha
*saltslinger if your any other player
Also another fact of the mini sentry: in a normal sentry, when they see a spy disguising, the normal one will shoot until the spy is fully disguised, while the mini sentry will keep shooting the spy, even if he has gone fully disguised.
I've actually had this save my ass once as there was this spy behind me that apparently NO one in my team noticed on the last point of Frontier and the mini started shooting behind me and finished them off before I was able to switch to my shotgun. Mini sentry a real one for that
"..and hit the bell or else I'll die."
gets me evertim
*iT eVErYtiME , sToOPid.*
"...and hit the bellorelse I'll die" more like it
can we just appreciate uncle dane's repeated use of pokemon heartgold and soulsilver music
no.
y e s.
In the q&a he said its one of his favorite games of all tome
Honestly it took me to a Trip down memory lane, I used to love playing Pokemon Games
Pure nostalgia
Your STAR_ roast made me feel sad.
it's the sad truth :(
I may have misunderstood, but wasn’t that whole thing STAR_ did a joke?
@@glass_currency I think you are misunderstanding and maybe just don't have a grasp on the entire 'history' of STAR_ controversy. The thing STAR_ did as a joke was a long feud with collaborator and probable lover jerma985. It was revealed they are still on amicable terms.
The thing Dane (and this comment) refers to in the video is STAR_ quitting TF2 (which is fine, people get bored of games and change interests) and totally disrespecting the community (which is not fine and quite frankly is childish).
Hope that clears things up. As far as we know (or at least as far as I know), STAR_ was not joking.
thelivingmonkey
Ah, okay. That makes a lot of sense, thanks for the explanation.
@@Thelivingmonkeygaming what did he do to disrespect the community?
I feel like the Gunslinger's triple punch crit is an amazing idea to replace random crits.
It makes it so that melee is useful, but also doesn't make your attacks too powerful given how you need to land your hits perfectly.
Tbh I still don’t think it’s a good replacement I think it should just go away but I this is better than what we have now
Imagine scout having crits on his melees Jesus Christ
sighs in Dead Cells having every weapon have its own crit mechanics for each weapon...
I'll never get used to random crits.
@@deskslam4232 Probably just make it 5 instead of 3 for him
Great video! Has good humor, pokes fun at another engie we may love or hate, and informs players about the best robotic hand ever made and how fun it is to use. I enjoyed watching.
Thanks! :)
Dj-Communist
He managed to acquire a response from Dane, and all without random-ass 'very gud engi mayn' bollocks. Hats off to you.
A response from op isn't some fucking academy award. He's just another dude. Dane pretty much reads all these comments, replying to one of them isn't a big deal. This "notice me senpai xd" circlejerk is trash. Please stop. Let someone express true gratitude for a great video and not downplay it as a cry for attention.
Thank you. I simply spoke my mind and pointed out what the video did.
Dj-Communist True man
Uncle Dane: "My aim with the shotgun is actually pretty sub-par compared to most high-level players."
Me: "Well then I just _SUCK_."
Thanks for the Soul Silver music Uncle. Brings up good memories.
I thought it was HeartGold.
It is. But the music is the same, and my version is Soul Silver.
Arkán Dreamwalker what is the title of the fucking song god please help me
It's the theme for Ecruteak City.
I grew up with heartgold. This music just brought back so many memories
"Gee, I wonder what background music to use"
*opens folder of HeartGold soundtrack*
He also used that amazing notorious song from Pulp Fiction that nearly nobody knows the name of, which is Misirlou and was composed by Dick Dale by the way.
Vin S Dane: yo pass the aux cord
Me : you better not play your next vids background music
Dane: *heart gold cover*
I played Soulsilver, recognized it instantly.
George Zhang Same, man that game had an amazing soundtrack
Vin S heart gold is the best pokemon game
that diss on Star was kinda clean doe
It was actually STAR_'s dislike of the Gunslinger that prompted me to craft a Collector's Gunslinger several years ago. I love the thing.
Yamcha Kippur lmao
Yamcha Kippur I don't like it because the jag for me is just a slightly better gunslinger but I can say it is useful
"two fricken' fucks"
did- did Dane just censor then uncensor himself?
fricken is american
what the frick did you just fucking say?
he said ster dont have respect for us.
Good video Delfy.
Wait a second, that Delfy is an uncle.
NinjothXD uncle delfy
NinjothXD Thag delfy is a spy!
NinjothXD I liek seks
Ankle Dayne is a weri gud Delfy man
epic win uncle delfy
"do you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything?"
Hi bro
@@BuhBaBiBeBo Ok
"The longer the engineer is on earth the stronger he WILL become!"
ahhh yes, the doomer
@@roke3526 I mean, he said it in the video.
@@QuackerHead-j really? I didn't noticed it
You cant just shoot 10 crit bullet holes in the enemy medic!
Is it weird that I named all my buildings?
Sentry: Sally
Dispenser: Dave
Teleporter (entrance): Terry
Teleporter (exit): Trixie
Mini-sentry: Marvin.
Well Heavy names his guns. Also very creative and funny on how you name your tools.
Lol wtf
That’s cute! Sally is now my waifu thx
Me too!
Sentry: Mark
Dispenser: Corey
Teleporter (entrance): Alex
Teleporter (exit): Ash
Mini-sentry: Tony
Fucking Marvin ruining my rocket jumps
“Is equipping it as simple as taking off your glove?”
It is! It actually just taking his glove of that makes a subclass!
I personally love the strat of placing a turret down at the spawn, picking 200 metal again, and just run with a built sentry to the front line, cuz the time it takes to re-eploy a mini-sentry is so fucking low that you basically can outshoot a scout. And with the remote controller it also becomes quite high-range since turret spread is constant.
yo that shade thrown at ster tho lmao
Flittzy Whats up with ster though?
He lost interest in TF2 some time ago and moved on to Overwatch streaming, which caused a backlash from the community. He responds to any questions about TF2 with unprecedented (deserved/undeserved, cross out where appropriate) hostility, and as of December last year (when someone asked him about that on Twitter), some people STILL didn't move on or take a hint that he's gone for good.
4:22 Star_ was well known to dislike the minisentry as it was before its rework and, upon moving on from making tf2 videos, began to show a distaste toward the tf2 community because a ton of people kept bugging him about making more tf2 videos. There's a lot more to it than just that, but it's pretty much what Dane was referring to in a nutshell
+Male Chinese Alligator because you know him lol
holy shit that was lethal
you took me rly far back with the star opening
i could almost hear star going "MINISENTRY"
Named my gunslinger "Psychological terror"
accurate
I named my Gun Slinger “Scuntus De-funtus”
Is that a Dr Lalve reference
@@screamsinrussian5773 yes
I named mine gunslinger I'm too lazy to get name tags
The gunslinger is actually good for two subclasses: The battle engineer, AND the support engineer. If you need temporary protection to get your dispenser fully upgraded, the mini sentry is affordable and does the job well enough to deter attackers.
It is effective against bots on 2fort
"and hit the bell or else i'll die"
QUICK, HIT THE BELL
when you realise uncle dan sang "hey now, you're a keemstar"
UserAksu when?
injusticepr0 GT Look up "Content Cop: Leafyishere"
DUDE.
holy shit i just realised
my life is a lie
That's really bizarre to think that Uncle Dane has or had a connection to iDubbbz at some point or another.
You neglected to mention that combat mini-sentries also sport a 35% faster turning speed, which is why they're significantly more effective at tagging fast moving targets and makes circle-strafing them more dangerous even with only 48 dps.
are you gg2 pyschopath :O
The one and only.
Yeah, watching STAR's Vid on why he didn't wanna come back to tf2 makes a little more sense now
@@DabroodThompson
His "nasty comment" was him being 100% in the right. It's just written version of the points he makes in the video.
Seriously go watch his video and self reflect on your crappy behaviour as a human being, instead of acting like a child.
@@Linkfanoftheyear Not really 100% in the right. Ster had no idea how to communicate with people, which is what caused this whole situation in the first place.
@@Linkfanoftheyear why'd he delete it then? We only have your word for it here.
@@Linkfanoftheyear STAR's video shows exactly how correct Uncle Dane's comment about him is. Between complaining about the popularity that he has (while many small youtubers struggle off the ground) and deleting dissenting comments it underlines what a control complex he has. Example straight from his video: it's not enough that people will watch anything he makes (because they like the way he makes it), they must like it for X reason too. I wonder how many artists in history never had the chance to create whatever they want and yet have a guaranteed income off of it?
@@Linkfanoftheyear Man shut the hell up, Ster was justifiably shat on by the community for being an egotistical douchebag who couldn't take a small amount of fire when he tried to branch off into other games. I'm not saying he deserved the hate for choosing to play something different, but he arguably did worse by throwing his entire fanbase under the bus because a minority of people disliked what he did. And only now, after 3-4 years of him sitting on his ass and letting his reputation rot in a dumpster fire, does he come back to make a response video, and all you people do is eat his shit up and praise him like he was the main character in some Shakespearian tragedy. Unlike your short-term memory ass, I'm not going to let Ster's little catharsis of his make me forget how he treated his fans and the platform he was given.
I don't know if you ever addressed this, but the Gunslinger in general is also very good to focus your attention on someone else's sentrygun entirely. In pubs, many people assume that they can take an Engineer because he can't heal his Sentrygun faster than they're dealing damage - Gunslinger Engineers can place their buildings down to distract from the Lv3 Sentry while using Rescue Ranger to safely heal the Lv3 Sentrygun alongside the other Engi.
Gunslinger with rescue ranger ? Are you crazy ?
@@Markkbonk yeah thats completely insane
There is so much shade in this video
0:00 Delfy
4:22 STAR_
11:18 Delfy/Muselk
rancho relaxo xD
not just any rancho relaxo, EXTREME rancho relaxo
I just had a thought. Crazy, right?
Logic: Gunslinger + Widowmaker = a very offensive engineer who just keeps placing minis.
Gunslinger + Frontier Justice = Engie that likes cheeky mini spots, and has his friendly demo boost him to interesting spots to put his minis, which eventually get destroyed by a soldier, which enables revenge crits.
I love this weapon so much. It changes the class entirely. It is so fun, so mobile, and I just love being a combat engineer.
i can't find the gunslinger in my inventory!
valve must have fixed the exploit.
HELL SPOON lol
Dammit dane look what you've done, now valve is gonna have to patch my favourite exploit
Uncle versus Star, Uncle versus Star, everybody wants to see this happen!
Skai Lmao!
WOW MY MEMORIES!
I don't think this aged well.
Mini sentries are the definition of ‘quantity over quality’
7:10 was basically this channel in a nutshell. Love ya, Dane.
90% of the comment section: “[Insert something about the shots at various content creators here]”
Me: Is nobody going to mention how overtly horrific the process of attaching that modification to the engineer’s arm must’ve been?
Dr Bright
It was fine. It’s not like I could feel the mass blood loss.
All I had to do is use a manual saw
@@TheGabeNewellGamingChannel you know it would've been better if you let the medic do it, he loves removing limbs and bones.
True, but he’s a complete psychopath
@@TheGabeNewellGamingChannel yeah, he can increase other peoples health but not his own mental health
@@TheGabeNewellGamingChannel he also made the medi gun
9:35 DID HE REALLY PREDICT THE BLUE MOON UPDATE!?!
no you fuckin clown he just used a common expression.
I AM BE THE ANGERY
Damnit, I was going to say that!
Jesus, is this comment thread a daycare or something?
*OH SHIT*
Uncle Dane: Lazy what kind of defense is this?!
Lazy Purple: I *AM* THE DEFENSE
I cannot find STAR_'s comment to save my life.
What did he say?
@@maxonwolf5841 When star played tf2 he hated the minisentry. No actual comment
@@DHRtheTHIRD there was an actual comment, which dane responded to, but i think it got deleted. someone probably has a screenshot that you can find on reddit or something
Found this on Reddit:
The TF2 Debate Between Ster And Dane
**Well, I've Seemed to stumble upon a small conversation in Dane's new video, And i'll be posting it here.**
>"*It's unfortunate that even you think I'm relevant enough to still talk about 2-3 years after I said something about an in game item. Because I'm not at all relevant, but you must still be thinking about me enough to bring me up more than a year after I've even played the game. Like, taking shots at me benefits you somehow? - like why do you even care enough to bring up such an irrelevant old loser? Are you disappointed that after quitting the game my videos still get more views than yours do or something and you need to try and take me down a notch or what? Or maybe I just tainted the use of the glorious mini-sentry and you're really spiteful about that - which is more sad.
Good ole' Uncle Dane didnt quit on you guys like he did! He still only knows how to play engineer and defines himself on this one specific thing he will never let go of and can't even comprehend somebody else doing so.
Like I tell everyone, please move on. This type of attachment is not healthy. We broke up a year ago.*"-Star
The Reply?
>"*I feel like you mistook my comment on your disrespect towards the TF2 community as a jab at your content, or the decisions you made to move on from the video game you didn't feel like playing any more. It wasn't. I don't care what game you play. My only criticism is how you felt the need to distance yourself from the TF2 community in such a juvenile and unnecessarily harsh way. The only reason I brought it up in this video was because the "Mini Sentries are cancer" meme still has a lasting effect all these years later (even though it's not necessarily true anymore) from your videos because - yes, you did have that much impact.*"-Uncle Dane
And The Final Reply From Star_.
>"*I'm sorry, I left in a harsh way because I do not have a significant interest in what was at stake anymore (like a youtube channel profiting from tf2) -- So I found it easier to say things like "every single update valve has made in the last 3 years has been riddled with game breaking bugs, competitive was a complete failure, and it did take them 3 years to fix simple bugs with the minisentry, how incompetant and distant from your community can you be" without worrying what the diehard fanbase of the game would say about it and how they would feel about me.
But, you still have those ties so I understand that you want to look better than me infront of them and continue to support the half finished lazy updates they put out despite how much flak any other developer would get for what they do. I continue to be harsh about it because you and everyone else - DESPITE how harsh i've been - still think I'm important enough to drag into this nonsense and get even further away from what I'd actually like - everybody moving on. I tried very hard to not be important to this community anymore, but I wish I would have seen a long time ago that would be impossible. I could have just continued receiving praise from a community I didn't care about anymore by staying quiet about how I actually felt, leading viewers along on the premise that I might return to your favorite game one day and keeping more of my following by being dishonest - which apparently is a much more mature way to handle things.*"
@@hellhound6409 Yeah Dane was being a twat here. Your viewers arent your friends and you dont owe them anything.
I 100% agree with you, Dane. Almost anything but minisentries annoys me; snipers, (face stabbing) spies, random demoknights charging at you, pyro surprise attacks, soldiers mindlessly juggling around with me, random crits, random people attacking or walking into me as I'm a spy, the list goes on. But never have I found a mini-sentry an annoyance, well maybe that one time I was using the Rocket Jumper on Hightower but I always found it to be just a fair weapon.
What you're saying in this video is exactly what's in my mind but I've never really told that to people, and you did right now. Thanks!
By the way, recently I've been using the Wrangler + Shotgun + Gunslinger combo a lot, and it is just so damn effective! Your sentry basically becomes twice as strong (96 DPS) with thrice the health (300) which only costs 100 metal and builds in mere seconds!
That delfy thing at the end sold me out
2:31 dam, i cant get over this lighting! its so high quality and pretty! and just for one shot :(
that ster jab had me rewinding haha my thoughts exactly
i didnt get the jab, what's going on with _star?
llucllumador He left the community without telling anybody, despite being the biggest TFTuber. He always constantly talked about hating the Mini-Sentry, and people still hate it to this day even after it's been nerfed because of him. Here's his reply: m.imgur.com/a/cj4Zg
Mr Instigator It’s almost as if he wasn’t having fun playing a game that the devs don’t care about anymore. I’ve got over nine thousand hours on the game and I can wholeheartedly understand why Ster up and dropped the game on the spot. You eventually just reach a point where you go, “I really have played it all, I don’t care anymore.”
But i like the mini sentry ._.
Hunter Kenchov It doesn’t mean he had to throw a fit in the comment section of this video because of a two second joke.
I'm gonna name my gunslinger Scunt Repellent.
Scout b gone!
“BANG, BANG, I love you scout b gone”
@@jfernandez7098 scunt begone*
Plis stop :(
You mean the direct hit as long as you can aim one shot is enough
nobody defends:
Me:*equips gunslinger* Fine,i'll do it myself.
That is like: "There is a scout in my face!" (equips blutsauger) Fine, I will shot the scout myself.
*I AM THE DEFENSE!*
yeah, and the worst of all its that your team and the enemy team complain about it
Engineer: Oh, you smashed my Mini Sentry after it killed a few of you? ~Cocks Frontier Justice~ You done goofed, son.
Let's do this Texas style!
I have a strange gunslinger and it was worth every penny. I've always loved weapons that force you to play differently and more risky, which is why I adore the gunslinger, the huntsman, and the loose cannon
This video was actually very entertaining to watch, and I greatly enjoyed it as I do most of your content. You're a cool and nice guy, and thanks for being that way.
"Am I watching the right channel?" I thought in the beginning
ROFL XD
Same thing xd
Laggy McStab ayyyyyy same here
8:44 "Yoink! Need a dispenser here!"
WELP, I give up, time to plaY
B A T T L E
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@@MidnightLilac556 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@thetarr2 HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
It's literally insane how, no matter the situation, a scout will always somehow find a way to jump in from NOWHERE and steal a metal pack. Even if you build a dispenser right next to it, even if there's a metal pack right over where a scout can easily grab, even if your team is desperate for a defense, a scout will always run in and snatch metal right out from under you.
@@getsu0 yeah multiple times while my team was pushing up one of my teammate took the ammo pack even though a dispenser is like infi ammo packs
A while ago I accidently got rid of my Gunslinger, mainly cause I had three at the time so I wanted to clean out my inventory and hopefully get new stuff.
Then didn't realize I put all three of my Gunslingers to craft... But, I did get a new one recently, so that's good.
Here's a quote for this video
If your sentry keeps dieng there's no point in lying it goes without saying you need to start slaying
and they should start prayin
And use the damn frontier justice too
“You can’t shoot in two directions at once”
beggars bazooka: hold my cocaine
Sniff snoff I smell glue
BenefitsBens I SMELL PENNIES
Stolen comment
Hold my Guerilla Glu- AHHHHHHHH!!!
Y337 n3ss *hold my glue*
Woah, I have the same exact shotgun that you're using in this video.
I'm now an Engineer Main.
"you can't collect metal from the gibs of mini sentries"
me, not knowing you could collect metal from the gibs of regular sentries: 👁👄👁
that shot at star though lol
What a burn. Long ass time coming though
Wow, why the hate? What did Muselk do that pissed you off? I can at least understand the salt about star_, I don't fault him for voicing his opinions, but he knew he'd get hate for that. Whats wrong with muselk?
Obvious pseudonym Swell guy, I watch him a lot but he has gotten flak in the TF2 community (particularly the competive group) due to the 'pug fiasco'. Long story short Muselk explained how to get into PUGs (about 3-4 years ago), the steam groups to join etc. This led to an outbreak of a lot of newbies and unprepared people flooded the Lobbies for a time.
That or some people just dislike Muselk, idk.
I don't like Muselk because I don't find him funny and (at least when he used to only play TF2) all his content was pretty much the same thing. I guess that's cool if you like that, but personally his personality really grated on me. Also his video titles.
***** I would say a mixture of the two. He has gotten gamer burn out over TF2, having played it for about 4-6 years. He also has grew in hatred for the TF2 community due to the constant pestering of 'when the next TF2 video'. That being said how Star_ handled his departure from TF2 was not... professional.
He left a single video stating he would be taking a 'break' from TF2 and would be trying around new games. Afterwards he never posted a video on how he was done with TF2. He kind of just did the whole 'if I simply ignore TF2 enough, no one would ask' but people asked and annoyed him to the point to where he called the TF2 community (on stream) a bunch of 'fucking idiots'. I feel both parties were at fault. The fans of Star_ shouldn't have tried forcing him to doing something he doesn't want to do and Star_ should have had better closure than just a maybe and a vanishing.
*obligatory ankle dane the engi main joke with a delfy twist this time*
Uncle Dane spitting fire at STAR_ ... damnn
Star doesn't care about his fans, he deserves all the hate he gets
"doesn't care"
Based on the your previous comments from this same video It's seems like you hate Star_. Which is fine, I always preferred Ster anyway
Tsuko Greg. He's not a good youtuber, he's a shit streamer.
DURRR STER NO DO WHAT I WANT HIM TO DO, BETTER HARASS HIM ABOUT IT AND THEN GET TRIGGERED WHEN HE GETS ANNOYED BY US BOTHERING HIM ABOUT IT LIKE ANY HUMAN WOULD, DURRRR STER BETTER DO WHAT I WANT HIM TO DO, HE NO GET TO DO WAHT HE WAN DO
I know this is really late but you really help me enjoy the game as much as possible with your reviews and also help me get better at playing engineer so thank you
"stronger the longer he is alive"
whatever ya say, samuel hayden
Wait did Uncle Dane just call out ster?
you mean the traitor?
Elaborate for those that don't know.
Star used to be very popular in the TF2 community for making TF2 videos. He was known for having a deep hatred for mini sentires and that kinda spread out as a meme. Eventually he abandoned TF2 and UA-cam in favor of streaming Overwatch and other games on Twitch. His only activity on YT is his second channel "ster 2" where stream highlights are uploaded.
Suspicious Scout thanks
Suspicious Scout specifically the most popular TF2 youtuber for a long time
I actually checked which channel I was watching at the start lol
literally this comment is below Delfys for me
who is it
bruh the animation on those title words was so smooth
i fuckin love you for that star_ bit
More like Uncle Shadee
Uncle dane: you can't shoot at 2 directions at the same time
Beggar's soldiers: HA
damn dane that shade at star was cold but so overdue
gabe i thought he was shading muselk
Jovan Calic Probably both
At least Muselk still makes tf2 vids from time to time while star has left in the dust
gabe In the description he says STAR_ so it's directed towards him
He threw shade at both; he took the piss out of Muselk's "extreme rancho relaxo" stuff too.
He was waaay harsher on star
4:25 Well this aged horribly...
Or maybe it was bad to begin with.
Uncle Dane?
More like... Uncle Danielle.
Who is he talking about there? I’m kinda new to tf2
Nah it aged well
I am also wondering
It was bad to begin with. All I'm hearing is that Dane is one of those babies who can't let ""the old ster"" go. Hope he looks back on this and realizes his childishness.
The reason why scout mains hate it so much is because it is a HARD counter, if a soldier is picking at your sentry you can equip the wrangler and take him out, or the shortstop, if a scout wants to take down a sentry they have to switch or let their team do it, I still think the gunslinger is balanced, just you said it like a guy with half a brain would get it
It’s supposed to counter scout
The Rattle in the Book scouts shouldn't even be trying to kill the sentries. If they somehow succeed, then either a) it was badly damaged beforehand or b) the sentry was in a terrible spot
Thomas Murrell I think you guys don't understand. If a spy is good, a pyro can become useless against him. If a Heavy is good, a scout can be useless against him. But with a Scout and engineer, without even trying, the engie can completely shut down the scout.
@@thomasmurrell9832 Normally that's the case, but when it's easily spammable and can be put in Scout's main area of effectiveness, it can be pretty unfair.
Pr. Gibus just equip bonk or let the soldier or demoman take care of it,if it’s such a struggle to take care of.
I honestly forgot Star_ existed
Same, Ster is much better
Ster is an asshole honestly. He got frustrated that his non-TF2 videos got less views, even though he knew that the content that a lot of people liked from him was his TF2 content, especially with Jerma. Does that mean he should have forever just made TF2 content and fucked around with Jerma? No. But he takes every chance he can to shit on the audience who made him popular. Do I blame him for switching to streaming when it's a better way to make money? No, but it would help if he didn't shit on those who got him where he is today. I doubt he enjoys streaming Overwatch day after day either, that seems like it would get pretty tiring after a while.
star doesn't owe you anything, stop acting like a betrayed kickstarter backer. Also he takes every chance to poke fun at anything, that's all he does, not his fault that the tf2 "gibs video slave-star" kiddies gave him so many chances.
Frisky Bits I think ster would have gotten in his place with or without tf2. he was always going to make it because he is good at vidgams and is enjoyable to watch so I dont think it is the tf2 community that put him where he is, just hard work and dedication
edit: and sure he gets pissed off when people mention tf2 and videos at him. it happens at least once every stream so yeah. just imagine being poked every day at least once
Firsky bits isnt saying that he owes us anything. He is just clear stating that Star_ is shitting over the very community that GAVE him the money he receives. Without us he would very likely be much much MUCH smaller. Id be suprsied if he had over 50 viewers without the tf2 community.
Oh boy, am i happy, i recentley installed TF2 and i got the gunslinger as the first item ever!!!!!
At first i thought it was absolute trash, since i was only able to use mini-sentry.
But thanks to this video!!!!!
I tried it out, and it was EPICCC in multyplayer!
Not at all good in Man vs Machine.
How come this is my most liked comment
yeah bit in mvm you can buy another sentry
cutie
37 likes, very sad
@@dinonuggiesguy4847 why do you care about numbers that serve no meaning or purpose other than to make you satisfied and show how many people agree with you
@@od4361 I cant argue with you assessment
Widow maker + mini sentry is fun. You can fight with a mini sentry who has your back, and refill metal with the widow maker to build a new one.
7:15 - Uncle Dane is a very good teacher main!
*11:26** - Nice try, I do not have Strange Rescue Ranger. But for some reason I subed.*
Wowza, we have the same profile pic
I think the best part about 4:21 is that if you know ster's intro you see it clearly but if you dont it just looks like blur!
Dane is saying that STAR_ started the hatred towards mini sentries, but that STAR_'s opinion shouldn't be respected as he doesn't even respect his own fan base (the TF2 Fan base)
big stanley I don't see why that's a lack of respect
MrPaladin vs Uncle Dane EPIC FIGHT
Raider Tf2 Channel well actually, it was uncle dane vs stabby
Raider Tf2 Channel And uncle dane vs ster_washupyoutuber ;)))
4:22 Yikes, this comment certainly didn't age well. Coming back to it and hearing it after the news from Ster today makes it all the more believable that he was done being controlled by the tf2 community.
@@legohomemovies1 yeah fuck off. He literally said he owed the tf2 for his success. That’s just vitriol bs.
Nah. It aged well. Ster acted pretty respect less regardless of other parties behavior.
Your vid title gave me an idea. Gunslinger name: The Gunslinging Slasher
How I see gunslinger:
-sometimes it gives you a little less gun
-sometimes it gives you a little more gun
-sometimes it makes you f*****g tankbuster
I deleted my gun gunslinger and this video comes
oh wonderful!
lol i said gun 2 times
My new favorite load out, never realized just how much of a threat they are to the enemy team, had half of the red team on 2fort just focused on trying to destroy my mini sentry placed inside between the front doors of our base lol, we won and I was in second place for our team as engineer believe it or not. Thanks for the great video