- Limited role and responsibility - Less prestige If anything that's an advantage bro 🤣 being called a doctor only sounds nice but the lifestyle of a doctor is only for people with courage and determination.
God will guide you . It’s all based on what type of lifestyle you want to have and the hours you want to have and the flexibility you want to have. You can change specialties, you may make a bit less then a doctor but less schooling I think it’s a perfect balance for what I want to do
No joke. But your phone probably might have heard you and the algorithm put this in your feed. No hate. But i once out loud prayed for a godly man and my tiktok fyp was filled with Christianity. When it normally isn’t
honestly same because I've been struggling so hard over the past year on what want my future to hold and I've been praying and begging God to show me something then randomly today during a conversation my cousin told me today she kept seeing me in scrubs with a stethoscope, not as a doctor or a nurse but something close and its been playing on my mind because being a doctor is too much for me so I looked up jobs in the medical field for the millionth time and this one caught me, my heart literally started racing and I got teary just by reading their job description, and now I'm on this video, praise God
Fred and that may be true but you still can’t rush him. I’m pretty sure he’s trying to get them done it’s just when more than 200,000 people are demanding for you to produce something it’s gets a little annoying.
@@fred2995 If I were him, I would PURPOSELY avoid doing the ones you people pester him with, just to prove a point. He's not a robot, he's a freaking human being with a youtube channel where he can post whatever he wants.
As a PA student, I have to say that I expected these comments to be a lot more negative, especially on a Medical School/Physician - focused channel. I'm loving the positivity towards the many roles on the healthcare team and I hope that many of us folks currently in school & new grads continue to foster a culture of respect and friendly competition amongst all healthcare professions, especially the diagnosing + prescribing folks. We would be able to change our professions for the better if we all worked to build each other up as hard as we did to get into school, through it, and practice!
@@rorsafgcygb7020it does not matter which undergrad bachelors degree as long as you also do the prerequisites. I did psychology and used my electives for my science prerequisites I needed.
Hi! I am a new grad neurosurgery PA. Thanks so much for giving us some spotlight. 20/10 satisfied with my career choice as are most of my colleagues. 💯💯
Hi, I am looking into PA school and I am wondering whether PAs are able to have that patient care time with patients, or is it similar patient care time with doctors?
@@spreadkindness6323 that would depend on the specialty. A lot of patients perceive that PAs spend more time with them. But I also rotated with physicians who spent a considerable amount of time with the patients. So I think it really depends.
Thanks so much for sharing this with us! THIS was a perfect description of what we PAs do!👍🏾 I have been a Physician Assistant for twenty years and currently work Hospitalist PA in Washington, D.C. It's a GREAT profession for many people! You MAY at times, feel like a "perpetual intern"😩. AND, if you want the FULL autonomy and "prestige" (if you're into that type of thing👑😤🎩) of the "top" person in the health care field, "Physician" is the way to go. However, I can tell anyone that I have TRULY enjoyed my 2 decades of PA experience. Thanks again, Dr. Kevin Jubbal.
@@tarimo3241 I had poor grades (3.2 gpa w 2.8 science gpa😳😩 and mediocre MCAT scores 7, 7, 8). However, when I FINALLY built myself up to a relatively competitive med school candidate, I just didn't seem to have that strong desire to become an M.D. anymore. I REALLY enjoy practicing as a PA! It's AWESOME and good fit for a moderately fit, middle-aged, mid-income family man, like me. I have a TON of time w/my wife and kids, which was the MOST important thing ti me. I COULD go the Caribbean MD route (Ross, St.George's, etc.), if I had THAT strong a desire to become an M.D. , I just don't anymore.😩😧 (at least for now🙄). There's even an PA-to-DO accelerated program at Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. I'm pretty old, MAN👴🏾. It's been a great 30 years in the work world. Now, I want to prepare to check off stuff on my bucket list. Death's coming soon.😒⚰
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro heyy..If i have a bachelor's degree in health science.. can i directly do msc physician assistant course.. or is it compulsory to do the bsc physician assistant course?
Let's be considerate and not rush him to do the episode that applies to you....he is going to get there. It's a step by step process and it takes his take to do it. So let's appreciate him🙏
YES!!! Thank you thank you for putting this together--i'm currently one year from applying to PA schools and this perfectly summarised all the pros and cons I put together. You helped me further solidfy why I'm on this path. Thank you!!!
Physician assistants function much like doctors. They examine patients, diagnose diseases, prescribe medicines, and write referrals to specialists. However, these professionals must work under a medical doctor's supervision.👍
Degenerate and those with less aptitude may want to pursue PA 😂 just wait till the patient looks at your name tag and says “so when will the doctor be in to see me?”
Love a medical profile that covers the topic of PAs with respect. The only downside I saw with becoming a PA when I was applying was how negative a lot of the physicians viewed PAs and I was so scared that I would be doomed to being some doctor’s b*tch while getting no credit or respect. I wish doctors understood that people who chose PA did it because that role fit their career and lifestyle goals and to still make a huge difference, not to undermine the importance of physicians. Most of us WANT someone above us. I promise we are not trying to take your spot or pretend to be doctors.
Fuck those kind of physicians. Your patients and non-physician staff know what you're all about. With what PA's knowledge and clinical skill set, they provide to patients and have a capacity in the same vein even if not at the extremely extensive, intensive level that physicians do. And fortunately, even many physicians. Say to the $40k/year residents, "How's that working class pay going?" Hahaha.
no one thinks this. I’ve talked so many physicians who work with PA’s and they talk highly of them. They are a vital part to making physicians lives easier and are helpful to their practice.
@@yishai720it’s definitely the way to go. Loads of respect for Rn - and they probably make more $ in some cases - but I don’t think I could handle half of what they do .
I believe an ongoing struggle for Physicians is the increased administrative/paper work side of things and the decreased patient care exposure. Your followers would love to see which MD/DO specialty has the least amount of paper work compared to the most.
You aren’t getting out of paperwork in this life. I don’t care if you are an engineer, a PA, a counselor, a nurse, a social worker, an attorney-all paperwork all the time.
Yea, I noticed a few inconsistencies in this video but its okay. Yes, on call almost a guarantee, esp. if your working a hospital or surgical setting. I did not want to cause any controversies but there are many grey areas that were covered in this concise video. My best recommendation if considering this field, be sure to do your homework, and ask PA's; as even though PA have and must try to maintain such a broad knowledge of medicine; it can widely vary between each PA depending on their practicing State, scope of practice, years of experience etc... Some PA will never go into surgery post grad. Therefore, their surgery background was limited (ended) after rotations were completed. For example, depending on how much surgery background one has under their belt; PA can play a big role in the surgical aspect. He made it seem as if PA only do the things listed. However, surgery and PA scope of practice is a massive grey area. A lot also varies in the State (USA) a PA practices, scope of practice, physicians expectations, experience etc... Also, 2-2.5 years of school is because its accelerated. Nowadays, most schools have began to adopt this accelerated model into their program. People need to remember that its 3 years worth of school in 2-2.5 years without summer breaks. Meaning, you go all year with very little breaks. Trust me when I say, you do not want to fall behind during this program. Also, PA initially have superficial knowledge over nearly all aspects of medicine, but once they specialize; PA must then gain a deep, extensive, and vast knowledge of that particular specialty. This is where the Lifelong Residency he was referring to in the video. Also, physicians only requires a re-cert board in only the area they practice medicine> However, PA are required to test on all aspects of medicine for re-cert (along with CME hours etc.). This is a big deal. Because if you do not want to maintain extensive knowledge in an area you may not like to learn; it may be better to go that NP or Physician route. Lastly, do not forget about all the exams. In most cases, before a PA can be a licensed/certified PA in their State(USA), PA must also pass a multiple hour board exam covering nearly all aspects of medicine post grad; in addition to that re-cert board exams every 10 years. The re-cert exam is when PA have to retake another similar version the exam they took post grad. This can be difficult because if you specialize i.e.(Orthopedics) for 10 years; and when re-recert comes back around, it may be smart to take a refresher course, as the exam will cover areas of medicine you may not seen in nearly 10 years. There's also multiple hours of continued educational hours one must log in order to maintain board certification and license. Therefore, even though he kindly helps to give everyone a general idea of a particular medical profession, as he did in the video with the PA profession, it is however, hard to cover all those in and outs to any medical profession. Thus, its always recommended to do your homework on the desired profession before dedicating and sacrificing a big chunk of your life to school.
Generally good content and accurate, has a 9-year PA in family practice I just wanted to clarify a couple of points: you mentioned that PA's do not follow patient's longitudinally, this is incorrect, it depends on which specialty as in primary care we absolutely follow patients and we have our own panel. I have some patients who have been exclusively seen by me for the last 8 to 9 years for example. As far as taking call overnight this also is something that often is done by a PA. I have been taking call anytime my clinic is closed for the last 5 to 6 years. Lastly, and this is a important pain point for many PA's and nurse practitioners, the term mid-level is demeaning and has been replaced by the more appropriate advanced practice clinician or APC
As a PA, we are able and do parts of the surgery besides retracting and suturing. I know many plastic PAs that will do one implant while the doctor does the other. I also know a few that perform organ procurement on their own etc. We also can handle the nuanced more complicated cases in the ICU. Take home point is your PA can do and handle as much as they choose to pursue.
Yeah that part of the video annoyed my because my dads best friend is a surgical PA for brain surgery and has done many of them completely by himself while the surgeon was out
Please don't use this video to decide. It seems like he talked only to 1 PA, and he spent a ton of time talking about how limited PAs are in surgery, while the vast majority of PAs don't work in surgery. I just finished my surgery rotation, and the PAs did a lot more than just retracting and suturing. They were creating tendon grafts and inserting PEG tubes, and they were intimately acquainted with the anatomy and the minutia of every procedure. They also took call! And saw patients on their own in clinic! I'm really not that impressed with this channel when it comes to anything besides medical school.
Think it through well. 12 years of school is not easy and you'll miss out your 20s. I switched from wanting to be a doctor to being a PA. Work-life balance exists for PAs where it doesn't for doctors
Every Saturday I wake up hoping to see “So You Want To Be A Psychiatrist” and I’m always let down😔 I live in an Eternal Cycle of Pain, nevertheless I won’t give up😤😤😤 We will get the Psychiatrist video if it’s the last thing I do😤✊🏽
I would like to add that in my experience in the ER, PA's act completely autonomously with supervising Physicians a phone-call away. But all diagnostics, prescriptions and care plans are decided on by mid-level providers. (This is in a fast track area not the entire Emergency Room). I think it is to be considered that there is more autonomy in some specialties than in others.
For clarity and insight, I'm about to graduate PA school in < a month. This is a good intro for those deciding between the varying professions. Ultimately, as he said your decision should be based off your career goals AND the lifestyle you want for yourself. If you're new to healthcare and really want to take care of patients it shouldn't be about prestige, money, and ego IMO. It's also not about who's more intelligent and other things some people in the comments say comparing going PA/NP/physician etc. We should all be working as a team. To note: PAs may have a perceived better work-lifestyle, but that'll be based on the specialty you're in; you can transition between specialties or work in two specialties at the same time, and have more flexibility in your career which I find appealing after years in military medicine and research. Surgery...yes you will always just be a first assist in the OR so if you want to do surgery go to medical and do a surgical residency. You may have more autonomy and experiences in various federal agencies vs private sector, but ultimately the role is the same as a PA. For all the pre-med/health students be sure to do your research. You don't want to realize one profession is not for you and drop out...or go through it and hate your job when you start working. Either way you'll still have to pay back any school loans you take out.
If you really wanted to provide good care to patients at the highest level, wouldn't being an MD/DO be the best option? Why as a patient would I want to see a PA over an MD? The wait times could be less and that seems to be the only advantage.
@@billr5842 I guarantee you've probably received excellent equivalent care from a PA or NP and didn't realize it. Having MD/DO doesn't mean they will necessarily provide "good care" any more than a PA/NP. If you want only want to see a physician that's your choice. Many people choose to see a PA over a physician. I've personally preferred to see a PA twice over a physician because they didn't seem to know much about/or just ignorant to my situation. The PA had more experience so opted for that individual and my situation was handled during the first visit. So degree level is one thing, but clinical experience is equally important for any clinician.
@@billr5842 plus if you don't see yourself staying in one area of medicine your entire career being a PA offers that. People have their reasons and that's why I said students should just do their own research
@@yohickey I have met terrible MDs and some PA/NP who were better but if I don't know about the provider id rather just see an MD. I always try to research who I'll see beforehand. For anything in a specialty or anything complicated I wouldn't see a PA/NP.
@@yohickey I have met terrible MDs and some PA/NP who were better but if I don't know about the provider id rather just see an MD. I always try to research who I'll see beforehand. For anything in a specialty or anything complicated I wouldn't see a PA/NP.
Neurosurgery PA here, it’s an inaccuracy to state that first assist PAs NEVER do the actual surgery. A more accurate statement is to say that a first assist PAs role will vary greatly depending on institution (community hospital versus teaching hospital) and the relationships they build with attending surgeons. A comparison of pilot and co-pilot is most appropriate. I may be biased, but I have yet to see a more beautiful and efficient relationship of surgeon and PA working together. My hard work frees up time so that my surgeon can impact more lives. As my attending surgeon states, PA stands for Pain Alleviator…
Yea, I noticed a few inconsistencies in this video but its okay. Yes, on call almost a guarantee, esp. if your working a hospital or surgical setting. I did not want to cause any controversies but there are many grey areas that were covered in this concise video. My best recommendation if considering this field, be sure to do your homework, and ask PA's; as even though PA have and must try to maintain such a broad knowledge of medicine; it can widely vary between each PA depending on their practicing State, scope of practice, years of experience etc... Some PA never going into surgery post grad; and their surgery background was limited (ended) at their rotations. For example, depending on how much surgery background one has under their belt; PA can play a big role in the surgical aspect. He made it seem as if PA only do the things listed. However, surgery and PA scope of practice is a massive grey area. A lot also varies in the State (USA) a PA practices, scope of practice, physicians expectations, experience etc... Also, 2-2.5 years of school is because its accelerated; which is were most programs are going. People need to remember that its 3 years worth of school in 2-2.5 years without summer breaks. You go all year. Also, PA initially have superficial knowledge over nearly all aspects of medicine, but once they specialize, PA will need to dive deeper with a extensive vast knowledge of particular specialty. This is where the Lifelong Residency he was referring to in the video. Also, physicians only requires a re-cert board in only the area they practice, where PA are required to test on all aspects of medicine for re-cert (every 10 years post grad). This is a big deal. Because if you do not want to maintain extensive knowledge in an area you may not like to learn; it may be better to go the NP or Physician route.
Lastly, do not forget about all the exams. In most cases, before a PA can be a licensed/certified PA in their State(USA), PA must also pass a multiple hour board exam covering nearly all aspects of medicine post grad; followed by re-cert board exams every 10 years. The re-cert exam is when PA have to retake another similar version the exam they took post grad. This can be difficult because if you specialize i.e.(Orthopedics) for 10 years and then re-cert comes back around, it may be smart to take a refresher course as it will cover areas of medicine you have not seen in nearly 10 years. There's also multiple hours of continued education hours one must log in order to maintain board certification and license. In the end, even though he kindly helps to give a general idea of a particular medical profession, as he did in this video with the PA profession; it is however... hard to cover all the in and outs to any medical profession. Thus, it's always recommended to do your homework on a desired profession; before dedicating and sacrificing a big chunk of your life to school.
PAs do take work home, absolutely keep track of patients longitudinally, and definitely participate in overnight call. Many PAs are left unsupervised, especially critical care / IM PAs who work overnight with no supervising physician in house. PAs will run codes, and can preform any procedure a MD can (with permission / experience). The average compensation is actually $115k (AAPA) and rising with 95-100k being a good starting salary. PAs are not just “superficial” (you mainly focused on surgery) - many PAs are designated to be their specialtie’s consulting provider when needed, showing their depth of knowledge in their field of practice outweighs a MD’s knowledge who is practicing in a separate field (despite the education difference). Thank you very much for creating this video! Happy PA week!
Lol, PA's absolutely cannot perform any procedure an MD can. For light, non surgical procedures maybe. But no patient or surgeon in their right minds would let somebody with a masters degree and no additional training to do surgical procedures.
I am a PA but would have applied to medical schools had I been younger. I prefer studying things in depth but there is little time for that in PA school. BTW, there is still the stress of a busy practice and some jobs require that you take call. One can easily work more than 40 hrs./week depending on the patient load. Just sayin....
This is a great overview video on PA's; I wish I had this to review in early 2000's in considering my career choice. At this point, I have been a PA-C for over a decade with practice in Neurosurgery, Orthopedic- Foot and Ankle, prolonged volunteer position W Africa inpatient and outpatient Internal Medicine. I have followed my own patients and I collaboration for years, complete basic procedures. This has been a varied and rewarding career. A few updates to request/suggest - Please use a different term than midlevels, much as physicians would advocate for use of clinicians or practitioners over providers, this term implies a lot. Associate Practitioners or Advanced Practice Practitioners are common -PAs take call and work longer hours than you report leading to burnout and work life balance issues, lesser than than MD/DO counterparts, but still significant. - additional draw back is often very little influence to MD/DO business practice decisions/responsibilities and changes- this is an added driver of burnout/career stressors Thank you for highlighting that PA's are always learning and gaining practical knowledge with colleagues- we are all better together in medical teams!
You are a mid level provider. The physician is on top and the highest level. You provide mid level care = mid level. Accept it and move on. You didn’t go to medical school so you won’t be on top. Pa literally means physician assistant. Get over yourself. I will never call you advanced. The only advanced person is the doctor.
Please make a rheumatologist version! I know it’s not a well-known subspecialty but surely I’m not the only one interested in rheum? Take your time though,this is just a suggestion 🥺 Love all of your videos
There are many different providers within health care, value discussions and various streams and pools of influence help to bridge gaps in care. When we consider the back end connections of how systems work and how truly valuable expertise is, the Value propositions shift some. For instance, PA's are able to help with a lot of collaborative needs... social workers and translational medicine concepts add value to those realities. The concept of finite need or finite resources isn't exactly accurate. The spheres of influence shift as better understandings grow. I was fortunate enough to see some great doctors, nurses, PA's, social workers, on and on.... when the career of caring takes the shape of understanding the larger "cogs"; the conversation brightens. Doctors and the decades of training can never be undercut in estimation, but the needs of connections and positive feedback loops while strengthening patient care... these understandings illuminate a lot. I'm always in awe of providers...
I'm binge watching your video; They're great!!! Please talk about nontraditional students and medical school. I believe this population group has grown substantially over the past 10-15 years. Thanks 👍🏾
I want to point out that in New York, the median salary is about 140k-150k. I think it’s true as i have multiple friends who have started working in emergency departments fresh out of school for about 140ish.
Emergency medicine is a high-paying field for PAs and with the pricey cost of living in NY those numbers sound about right. He was referencing the national median salary for all-comer PAs which is around $100k.
I am 15 year lab assistant getting my BA in clinical Laboratory science and made the decision to study for PA , the disadvantages don’t sound bad …. I’m Ready 🎉
Love your videos!! I’ve been following you since high school, and I have learned so much! I will be starting med school next fall! After thinking about neurology and neurosurgery through undergrad, now I am thinking about oncology. I would love to see a video on so you want to be an oncologist. I don’t have a mentor to turn to, and your videos have been so helpful throughout my journey. Thank you so much for everything you do!
I’ve been seen by 2 PAs so far in my life and they were some of the worst . The first was in the ER . I was bleeding days after a fibroid surgery . After the bleeding stopped she told me they saw some a cyst . And I asked her what do I do about the cyst or is the cyst part of expecting my period . She told me she doesn’t know and was very nonchalant about it . She then went to discharge me told me to follow up with my ob/gyn . Will never forget the look on her face and how she talked down to me . The second was when I was at a physical therapy place . My usual Dr that was good wasn’t around and they had me see this pA . He was in his phone just watching cats on UA-cam . And when he spoke to me he was very dismissing saying they will discharge me from physical therapy . Knowing full well I was still in pain . My point is , People should go into PA if they have passion for helping people now as a quick way to make money without having any of the responsibilities Drs have of actually treating a patient
One important thing to also consider is the learning environment. If you put medicine into a book during PA school you learn like 70-80% while medial school you learn the whole thing, of course medicine is still expanding but generally that’s the case. PA school is like a race you it starts right off with high intensity a bunch of quizzes every week and a LOT of information crammed in just 2 years but it’s much shorter. Medical school it’s still a bunch of information crammed but medical school is more like a marathon gotta keep a steady rythme but it’s much longer and even after medical school you still got residency. Of course each school has aspects of the other but down to the core pa school was all about getting people competent in medicine quickly and getting them in the workforce and medical school is about getting people very knowledgeable and good at whatever speciality they go in. I think how you learn and what environment you want really is important cuz you don’t wanna burn out while still being in school.
It’s so hard to decide PA vs doctor vs NP vs CRNA vs anesthesiologist assistant 😩 PA is very appealing but the lack of international opportunity is unfortunate. Becoming a NP seems harder/longer but maybe the slight increase in autonomy is worth it... Doctor is also super nice but school and residency seem so long and intense I wonder if i would regret going the extra mile when being mid level might be just as satisfying or perhaps more satisfying due to starting to work much sooner
wuurks bruh you will get a horrible education as a np, they are seriously dumb. Tbh I’m rotating with a pa student and I’m a med student. They are really bad. Doc is the way to go.
What he says definitely applies to relatively new PAs, but with experience the line can get blurry. I’m a physician who works with PAs in the critical care space, and depending on the physician, a PA job can be like an ongoing fellowship in a specialty if the physicians are willing to make the effort to expand the knowledge and skills of their PAs. An experienced PA who over the years has gradually assumed more responsibility and autonomy as the knowledge and skill base has grown ( very much like a progressing resident or fellow) can become sort of a junior physician, depending of course on the nature of the supervising physicians and their trust and comfort level with PAs.
I'm not so much worried about cost, as I am blessed enough to have assistance with schooling. I am 41 years old, have an 8 year old and 3 year old, as well as somewhat of an introvert......BUT, that being said, I made it through 3.5 years of school 2016-2019 and am currently a rad-tech. Currently working at an UC clinic that also has occupational medicine. My biggest concerns are these: length of schooling (young kids, only an Associates degree currently), classes such as microbiology, chemistry and pharmacology, and lastly having the nerves to be able to present cases to physicians, professors, etc (yay for being an introvert)....but both PAs at my clinic say that I should go for it. They are very, very supportive. I'm SO TORN on what to do. I have taken statistics, Anatomy and physiology lecture and lab as well. Tested out of biology bc of scoring a 24 on ACT
Kevin can you make "So you want to be an Anesthesiologist Assistant" its not as well known as a PA but its a great career and i think it would be a great video to make
I hope you can do a video about being a psychologist as well. I'm a fourth year medical student and was considering psychiatry for my residency. On the other hand, as I've learned the field of psychology in my informal research , and talk to several bright psychological practitioners, I've become to be so much curious about the field than I do with psychiatry. I watch you're video about it, and I loved. I hope you can do one solely for psychologists. Thank you
Physicians: anywhere they offer your specialty, there is a job for you. You can even start your own practice. PAs: anywhere there is a physican, there is a job for you. More limitations on starting your own practice but possible, this is rare. Physicians will be your boss, which is not bad, physicians are great to work with, find a physician that you can vibe with and gives you autonomy to work independently within the clinic/hospital. If you don't match energy with your physician, then the amazing part of being a PA is that you can move down the road to the next clinic or hospital. You are not limited to location, you can work anywhere and with any specialty you choose too, you can even do locums (travel PA). Just be the best and most competitive PA you can be and you will be an amazing provider. My personal opinion, being a PA has more benefits than being a Phycisian. Flexibility, hours, salary, and location. You get less money, and are not the boss, but with $100k you will be happy and who wants to be the boss of a clinic or department in a hospital when you can just work with a great boss and leave work at work when you clock out. Then enjoy your life at home with amazing income and time. You don't spend 6 additional years learning, you don't stress worrying about picking the "perfect" specialty because you can just switch as a PA. Time is the most valuable thing we have, and being a PA saves you a lot of time that you can be using making life long memories. Be smart, invest, save money, get more sources of income, and with a 6 figure salary the world is your oyster. Enjoy the amazing life you will have, but do not be comfortable, always look at what else you can do, always have a new goal, and something to strive for even after you are in the career you want to be in.
Could you do a video on Pediatric Surgeons? Also a video on how middle school students could get ahead in science and medicine knowledge? I’m in middle school and I want to pursue medicine, what can I do?
Current medical student here. Just do well in middle and high school and establish good study strategies that will set you up for success in your college academics. Relax and have fun. Be a teenager. Do some light shadowing in high school if you get the chance. No need to worry about doing things for medical school until you are in college.
@@thomasschumann4034 completely agree ! Enjoy middle school and high school cuz later this trend of enjoyment and leisure time just tends to diminish imo
@@chaeglows your brain is still developing, don't worry about judging yourself now! Focus on understanding topics rather than memorizing them only. Make flashcards to memorize a good base of knowledge about a topic, and then do practice questions to apply that knowledge. Doing well in school isn't determined by having a good memory or not. Don't worry about it, have fun as a kid.
Ima start school in two weeks so I can get started on being a PA I’m a medical assistant at the moment but want to progress and I love my job and helping people .
@@stevendijorio2624 there was a poll about 3 months ago and psychiatry was top vote. there was another poll with similar results made around 1-2 months ago. i think they had some time to make "so you want to be a psychiatrist"
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the disadvantages he listed are actually appealing to me... i hate making decisions 😭
facts!
sameee
especially decisions impacting someone's health, that's scary asf
Then PA is for us 😭
Loll same it’s kinda bad to say but I want the simple way out of life
- Limited role and responsibility
- Less prestige
If anything that's an advantage bro 🤣 being called a doctor only sounds nice but the lifestyle of a doctor is only for people with courage and determination.
Hey, go pediatric, oncology, orthopedics, dermatology, radiology, so on as a PA and you still have a chance at making $200k a year.
Plus as a doctor you're giving up a third of your adult life to study it, and half if you're trying to be a surgeon
I would love to be a physical assistant in US. I'm a senior med student from Argentina, is there any way to convalidate my studies in US?
@@MrDwinfrey29Yet in a few years doctors make more than most peoples lifetime earnings
🤔… so PAs don’t have courage or determination…
The way all the “cons” are literally things I’m ok with 😭👍🏿
This has to be a sign I was just thinking about being a PA over MD and I asked GOD to lead me in the right direction and I guess I have my answer 😭
God will guide you . It’s all based on what type of lifestyle you want to have and the hours you want to have and the flexibility you want to have. You can change specialties, you may make a bit less then a doctor but less schooling I think it’s a perfect balance for what I want to do
@@Daddyvader7 thanks and I totally agree
no joke, same thing happened to me lol, God works in mysterious ways
No joke. But your phone probably might have heard you and the algorithm put this in your feed. No hate. But i once out loud prayed for a godly man and my tiktok fyp was filled with Christianity. When it normally isn’t
honestly same because I've been struggling so hard over the past year on what want my future to hold and I've been praying and begging God to show me something then randomly today during a conversation my cousin told me today she kept seeing me in scrubs with a stethoscope, not as a doctor or a nurse but something close and its been playing on my mind because being a doctor is too much for me so I looked up jobs in the medical field for the millionth time and this one caught me, my heart literally started racing and I got teary just by reading their job description, and now I'm on this video, praise God
*So you want to be an engineer*
Kevin: “the biggest downside is you will not be performing surgery”
the best you'll ever be is 1st assist!!!
@@stephenmarquardt2390 nothing wrong with that
@@anthonyp2883 oh I agree, my comment was sarcasm
😂😂😂 too true!
I have no problem with that
I wish y’all stop rushing him about doing “so you want to be” he’s busy and trying his best to get to all them!🙄🤦🏾♀️
Yeah but too be fair they made polls and Psychiatry won most of em if not all of the ones it was on
Fred and that may be true but you still can’t rush him. I’m pretty sure he’s trying to get them done it’s just when more than 200,000 people are demanding for you to produce something it’s gets a little annoying.
@@fred2995 If I were him, I would PURPOSELY avoid doing the ones you people pester him with, just to prove a point. He's not a robot, he's a freaking human being with a youtube channel where he can post whatever he wants.
Evee He keeps doing things no one wants to see!
TRON then if you don’t wanna see them.. stop watching his videos🤷🏾♀️🙄
As a PA student, I have to say that I expected these comments to be a lot more negative, especially on a Medical School/Physician - focused channel. I'm loving the positivity towards the many roles on the healthcare team and I hope that many of us folks currently in school & new grads continue to foster a culture of respect and friendly competition amongst all healthcare professions, especially the diagnosing + prescribing folks. We would be able to change our professions for the better if we all worked to build each other up as hard as we did to get into school, through it, and practice!
Hi . May i know wich bachelor's degree is the best for pa ?
@@rorsafgcygb7020 A friend of mine graduated with a degree in Public Health
Hi, I have some questions about pa, can you help me?
@@rorsafgcygb7020it does not matter which undergrad bachelors degree as long as you also do the prerequisites. I did psychology and used my electives for my science prerequisites I needed.
One of the inevitable "consequences" of PA being born from the military lol
Hi! I am a new grad neurosurgery PA. Thanks so much for giving us some spotlight. 20/10 satisfied with my career choice as are most of my colleagues. 💯💯
Congrats! I’m a newly certified PA as well. Havnt taken a job yet but hope to start in primary care :)
Hi, I am looking into PA school and I am wondering whether PAs are able to have that patient care time with patients, or is it similar patient care time with doctors?
Lmao all you are is a Med school reject
@@spreadkindness6323 that would depend on the specialty. A lot of patients perceive that PAs spend more time with them. But I also rotated with physicians who spent a considerable amount of time with the patients. So I think it really depends.
@@MHSMagicLuver Ok, thank you so much!
_SHOUT OUT TO ALL MY PA'S! WE LOVE YOU!!!_
"My"
New grad PA-C here, I appreciate you!
PA = beta job. Why would you want to be an assistant for life
Hey i want to be one
@@PHILLYMEDIC69 they aren't assistants. did you watch the video? they work generally independently but are supervised.
Watched this 2.5 years ago before I started my PA journey, and now starting school in January :) thank you for this resource!
congrats!!
Thanks so much for sharing this with us! THIS was a perfect description of what we PAs do!👍🏾 I have been a Physician Assistant for twenty years and currently work Hospitalist PA in Washington, D.C. It's a GREAT profession for many people! You MAY at times, feel like a "perpetual intern"😩. AND, if you want the FULL autonomy and "prestige" (if you're into that type of thing👑😤🎩) of the "top" person in the health care field, "Physician" is the way to go. However, I can tell anyone that I have TRULY enjoyed my 2 decades of PA experience. Thanks again, Dr. Kevin Jubbal.
were there other reasons why you didn't go the md route?
I’m currently an EMT and am interested in looking into PA School. Roughly how long did you attend school for?
@@tarimo3241 I had poor grades (3.2 gpa w 2.8 science gpa😳😩 and mediocre MCAT scores 7, 7, 8). However, when I FINALLY built myself up to a relatively competitive med school candidate, I just didn't seem to have that strong desire to become an M.D. anymore. I REALLY enjoy practicing as a PA! It's AWESOME and good fit for a moderately fit, middle-aged, mid-income family man, like me. I have a TON of time w/my wife and kids, which was the MOST important thing ti me. I COULD go the Caribbean MD route (Ross, St.George's, etc.), if I had THAT strong a desire to become an M.D. , I just don't anymore.😩😧 (at least for now🙄). There's even an PA-to-DO accelerated program at Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. I'm pretty old, MAN👴🏾. It's been a great 30 years in the work world. Now, I want to prepare to check off stuff on my bucket list. Death's coming soon.😒⚰
@@MASTI_Shotz_ PA school was 24 months aftee getting my 4 yr. B.S. in Biology.
Do you need a bachelors or a masters
*_Thankful for all the wonderful PA's!_*
Thank YOU two, for your support! I wish you BOTH success in your positive endeavors! I checked out your channel! You two are AWESOME!😊👨🏽⚕️👩⚕️
@@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro heyy..If i have a bachelor's degree in health science.. can i directly do msc physician assistant course.. or is it compulsory to do the bsc physician assistant course?
I’ve been torn between PA and MD for so long, it’s exhausting. I go back and forth, back and forth. I could see myself doing both.
Same! I don’t know if I have enough energy for MD, but am I just taking an easier route if I chose PA?
@@sandramorcos9090 PA isn’t just an “easier route” PAs are just as important as every other job in the medical field
@@Bishubitu I think they mean “easier” financially and time wise. Not every has the time to go to school for 12 years and get $300,000 in debt
@@Naomi-xu4hq Facts!
What did you ultimately decide??
I’m so bad with decision making, but this kind of lifestyle is exactly what I’m looking for! Thank you for making these types of videos ❤️
Let's be considerate and not rush him to do the episode that applies to you....he is going to get there. It's a step by step process and it takes his take to do it. So let's appreciate him🙏
YES!!! Thank you thank you for putting this together--i'm currently one year from applying to PA schools and this perfectly summarised all the pros and cons I put together. You helped me further solidfy why I'm on this path. Thank you!!!
Physician assistants function much like doctors. They examine patients, diagnose diseases, prescribe medicines, and write referrals to specialists. However, these professionals must work under a medical doctor's supervision.👍
yup. for those with fragile egos may want to pursue md
Leader of healthcare team will always be an MD
Ok captain obvious, if you watched the video then you’d know this lmao
Degenerate and those with less aptitude may want to pursue PA 😂 just wait till the patient looks at your name tag and says “so when will the doctor be in to see me?”
@@romainlettuce118 thank you for proving my point.
Love a medical profile that covers the topic of PAs with respect. The only downside I saw with becoming a PA when I was applying was how negative a lot of the physicians viewed PAs and I was so scared that I would be doomed to being some doctor’s b*tch while getting no credit or respect. I wish doctors understood that people who chose PA did it because that role fit their career and lifestyle goals and to still make a huge difference, not to undermine the importance of physicians. Most of us WANT someone above us. I promise we are not trying to take your spot or pretend to be doctors.
Fuck those kind of physicians. Your patients and non-physician staff know what you're all about. With what PA's knowledge and clinical skill set, they provide to patients and have a capacity in the same vein even if not at the extremely extensive, intensive level that physicians do. And fortunately, even many physicians. Say to the $40k/year residents, "How's that working class pay going?" Hahaha.
YES exactly
no one thinks this. I’ve talked so many physicians who work with PA’s and they talk highly of them. They are a vital part to making physicians lives easier and are helpful to their practice.
Praying I am able to get into a PA master's program as I finish my health sciences bachelor's degree!
what school did you go to?
Congratulations!
did it work?
Congratulations
Did you get in?
THIS. IS. MY. D R E A M. JOBBBBBB
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
same im bout to cry this just made em so much happier.
I originally wanted to be an RN but I saw PA our of nowhere im like... hold UPPPPPPPPPP
@@Laurenxlee SAMEEEEEE I FEEL LIKE CRYING OF JOY TOO SIS ✋😭💪😌✨
ME TOOOOOOOOOOO IM SO HAPPYYYY!!
@@yishai720it’s definitely the way to go. Loads of respect for Rn - and they probably make more $ in some cases - but I don’t think I could handle half of what they do .
I believe an ongoing struggle for Physicians is the increased administrative/paper work side of things and the decreased patient care exposure. Your followers would love to see which MD/DO specialty has the least amount of paper work compared to the most.
Probably the ones with the least patient contact. Radiology, Anesthesia. Or private practice doctors who hire their own scribe.
Khmer. Movies
You aren’t getting out of paperwork in this life. I don’t care if you are an engineer, a PA, a counselor, a nurse, a social worker, an attorney-all paperwork all the time.
Yea, I noticed a few inconsistencies in this video but its okay. Yes, on call almost a guarantee, esp. if your working a hospital or surgical setting. I did not want to cause any controversies but there are many grey areas that were covered in this concise video. My best recommendation if considering this field, be sure to do your homework, and ask PA's; as even though PA have and must try to maintain such a broad knowledge of medicine; it can widely vary between each PA depending on their practicing State, scope of practice, years of experience etc...
Some PA will never go into surgery post grad. Therefore, their surgery background was limited (ended) after rotations were completed. For example, depending on how much surgery background one has under their belt; PA can play a big role in the surgical aspect. He made it seem as if PA only do the things listed. However, surgery and PA scope of practice is a massive grey area. A lot also varies in the State (USA) a PA practices, scope of practice, physicians expectations, experience etc...
Also, 2-2.5 years of school is because its accelerated. Nowadays, most schools have began to adopt this accelerated model into their program. People need to remember that its 3 years worth of school in 2-2.5 years without summer breaks. Meaning, you go all year with very little breaks. Trust me when I say, you do not want to fall behind during this program.
Also, PA initially have superficial knowledge over nearly all aspects of medicine, but once they specialize; PA must then gain a deep, extensive, and vast knowledge of that particular specialty. This is where the Lifelong Residency he was referring to in the video. Also, physicians only requires a re-cert board in only the area they practice medicine> However, PA are required to test on all aspects of medicine for re-cert (along with CME hours etc.). This is a big deal. Because if you do not want to maintain extensive knowledge in an area you may not like to learn; it may be better to go that NP or Physician route.
Lastly, do not forget about all the exams. In most cases, before a PA can be a licensed/certified PA in their State(USA), PA must also pass a multiple hour board exam covering nearly all aspects of medicine post grad; in addition to that re-cert board exams every 10 years. The re-cert exam is when PA have to retake another similar version the exam they took post grad. This can be difficult because if you specialize i.e.(Orthopedics) for 10 years; and when re-recert comes back around, it may be smart to take a refresher course, as the exam will cover areas of medicine you may not seen in nearly 10 years. There's also multiple hours of continued educational hours one must log in order to maintain board certification and license.
Therefore, even though he kindly helps to give everyone a general idea of a particular medical profession, as he did in the video with the PA profession, it is however, hard to cover all those in and outs to any medical profession. Thus, its always recommended to do your homework on the desired profession before dedicating and sacrificing a big chunk of your life to school.
Thank you for saying this!!!
Fun fact the post popular profession for PAs in 2020 is... SURGERY according to the AAPA annual report
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I love both pros and cons. I am down for this for the long haul. PA school, here I come.
Congrats on 1 million! You inspire so many students to pursue medicine and make the process so much easier. And it's free, up to date content.
Generally good content and accurate, has a 9-year PA in family practice I just wanted to clarify a couple of points: you mentioned that PA's do not follow patient's longitudinally, this is incorrect, it depends on which specialty as in primary care we absolutely follow patients and we have our own panel. I have some patients who have been exclusively seen by me for the last 8 to 9 years for example. As far as taking call overnight this also is something that often is done by a PA. I have been taking call anytime my clinic is closed for the last 5 to 6 years. Lastly, and this is a important pain point for many PA's and nurse practitioners, the term mid-level is demeaning and has been replaced by the more appropriate advanced practice clinician or APC
As a PA, we are able and do parts of the surgery besides retracting and suturing. I know many plastic PAs that will do one implant while the doctor does the other. I also know a few that perform organ procurement on their own etc. We also can handle the nuanced more complicated cases in the ICU. Take home point is your PA can do and handle as much as they choose to pursue.
Is it true that it depends on the MD; that if you prove yourself the MD can give you more responsibilities and challenges?
@@oeckstei yes
Yeah that part of the video annoyed my because my dads best friend is a surgical PA for brain surgery and has done many of them completely by himself while the surgeon was out
The PA’s I work with suture/close even without the surgeon
@@oeckstei Same goes for residents by attending physicians. Same goes for department heads on their attending physicians.
so you want to be a PHYSICAL THERAPIST?
Many of my friends are interested
THIS
YES
Physical therapist mean Physiotheraphy?!!
i’ve been waiting for this one TURN IT UPP
Could you do ones on Nurse practitioners, Midwifes, and Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists?
YES! That would be great!! Please do!!!
I already demanded that kind of video
OR anesthesiologist assistants (similar to CRNAs)
I think he will
Get in the line
Can you do a comparison video about nurse practioners vs physician assistant?
Please do a "So you want to be a Neurologist"
Yes, we want that !!!
especially pediatric neurologist!!!
yes plz!
Yes, please!!!
Yes please ☺️
My sister is a PA at Kaiser! And she loves it!!
What's her base salary??
how long did it take her?
Yesss! Thank you for making a PA video!
Yes yes yes!! Thank you I've been hoping so much you would make this video! Now I just need the N.P. video 😁😁
I have been waiting so long for this video, I am so conflicted between going to medical school or becoming a PA.
__Val Me too!
Same I wanted to be a physician but PA sounds more interesting
Me too, im leaning more toward PA though. It just fits my personality more
Please don't use this video to decide. It seems like he talked only to 1 PA, and he spent a ton of time talking about how limited PAs are in surgery, while the vast majority of PAs don't work in surgery. I just finished my surgery rotation, and the PAs did a lot more than just retracting and suturing. They were creating tendon grafts and inserting PEG tubes, and they were intimately acquainted with the anatomy and the minutia of every procedure. They also took call! And saw patients on their own in clinic! I'm really not that impressed with this channel when it comes to anything besides medical school.
Think it through well. 12 years of school is not easy and you'll miss out your 20s. I switched from wanting to be a doctor to being a PA. Work-life balance exists for PAs where it doesn't for doctors
The fact this came out during PA week!!
So you want to be a pathologist
Yessss
Yessss
Yes please 😊
Happy PA Week❤️
Now that we're not exclusively doing med school careers, I would really appreciate "So You Want To Be A Dentist" (and orthodontist)
im happy enough to save a patient life i dont need praise but i know that i helped alot .
Every Saturday I wake up hoping to see “So You Want To Be A Psychiatrist” and I’m always let down😔 I live in an Eternal Cycle of Pain, nevertheless I won’t give up😤😤😤 We will get the Psychiatrist video if it’s the last thing I do😤✊🏽
Yes
Yes
yep, I'm waiting too.
SAME
@Bull Durham this seems like a long and unnecessary insult.
Heyyyy big fan of the channel and current 2nd year PA student!
Me too! 👊🏼
how rigorous was your 1st yr training?
Me too
I would like to add that in my experience in the ER, PA's act completely autonomously with supervising Physicians a phone-call away. But all diagnostics, prescriptions and care plans are decided on by mid-level providers. (This is in a fast track area not the entire Emergency Room).
I think it is to be considered that there is more autonomy in some specialties than in others.
Yea as a family medicine PA I was very autonomous and saw all of my own patients, ordered and interpreted labs, prescribed medicine, etc.
For clarity and insight, I'm about to graduate PA school in < a month. This is a good intro for those deciding between the varying professions. Ultimately, as he said your decision should be based off your career goals AND the lifestyle you want for yourself. If you're new to healthcare and really want to take care of patients it shouldn't be about prestige, money, and ego IMO. It's also not about who's more intelligent and other things some people in the comments say comparing going PA/NP/physician etc. We should all be working as a team.
To note: PAs may have a perceived better work-lifestyle, but that'll be based on the specialty you're in; you can transition between specialties or work in two specialties at the same time, and have more flexibility in your career which I find appealing after years in military medicine and research. Surgery...yes you will always just be a first assist in the OR so if you want to do surgery go to medical and do a surgical residency. You may have more autonomy and experiences in various federal agencies vs private sector, but ultimately the role is the same as a PA.
For all the pre-med/health students be sure to do your research. You don't want to realize one profession is not for you and drop out...or go through it and hate your job when you start working. Either way you'll still have to pay back any school loans you take out.
If you really wanted to provide good care to patients at the highest level, wouldn't being an MD/DO be the best option? Why as a patient would I want to see a PA over an MD? The wait times could be less and that seems to be the only advantage.
@@billr5842 I guarantee you've probably received excellent equivalent care from a PA or NP and didn't realize it. Having MD/DO doesn't mean they will necessarily provide "good care" any more than a PA/NP. If you want only want to see a physician that's your choice. Many people choose to see a PA over a physician. I've personally preferred to see a PA twice over a physician because they didn't seem to know much about/or just ignorant to my situation. The PA had more experience so opted for that individual and my situation was handled during the first visit. So degree level is one thing, but clinical experience is equally important for any clinician.
@@billr5842 plus if you don't see yourself staying in one area of medicine your entire career being a PA offers that. People have their reasons and that's why I said students should just do their own research
@@yohickey I have met terrible MDs and some PA/NP who were better but if I don't know about the provider id rather just see an MD. I always try to research who I'll see beforehand. For anything in a specialty or anything complicated I wouldn't see a PA/NP.
@@yohickey I have met terrible MDs and some PA/NP who were better but if I don't know about the provider id rather just see an MD. I always try to research who I'll see beforehand. For anything in a specialty or anything complicated I wouldn't see a PA/NP.
Neurosurgery PA here, it’s an inaccuracy to state that first assist PAs NEVER do the actual surgery. A more accurate statement is to say that a first assist PAs role will vary greatly depending on institution (community hospital versus teaching hospital) and the relationships they build with attending surgeons.
A comparison of pilot and co-pilot is most appropriate.
I may be biased, but I have yet to see a more beautiful and efficient relationship of surgeon and PA working together. My hard work frees up time so that my surgeon can impact more lives. As my attending surgeon states, PA stands for Pain Alleviator…
ive never been so early to anything wow
Turn the notifications on & Use phone 24\7 .... You will be early most times🤭🤭😏
I am very experienced in this😏😏
I would be very interested in a "So you want to be an infectious disease doctor". Thanks for all you do!
This is actually what I want to go back to school for ! 🙏
just in time! I just decided to want to become a PA a couple of days ago, thank you!
"So you want to be an OBGYN"
PA do take overnight call
Yea, I noticed a few inconsistencies in this video but its okay. Yes, on call almost a guarantee, esp. if your working a hospital or surgical setting. I did not want to cause any controversies but there are many grey areas that were covered in this concise video. My best recommendation if considering this field, be sure to do your homework, and ask PA's; as even though PA have and must try to maintain such a broad knowledge of medicine; it can widely vary between each PA depending on their practicing State, scope of practice, years of experience etc...
Some PA never going into surgery post grad; and their surgery background was limited (ended) at their rotations. For example, depending on how much surgery background one has under their belt; PA can play a big role in the surgical aspect. He made it seem as if PA only do the things listed. However, surgery and PA scope of practice is a massive grey area. A lot also varies in the State (USA) a PA practices, scope of practice, physicians expectations, experience etc...
Also, 2-2.5 years of school is because its accelerated; which is were most programs are going. People need to remember that its 3 years worth of school in 2-2.5 years without summer breaks. You go all year.
Also, PA initially have superficial knowledge over nearly all aspects of medicine, but once they specialize, PA will need to dive deeper with a extensive vast knowledge of particular specialty. This is where the Lifelong Residency he was referring to in the video. Also, physicians only requires a re-cert board in only the area they practice, where PA are required to test on all aspects of medicine for re-cert (every 10 years post grad). This is a big deal. Because if you do not want to maintain extensive knowledge in an area you may not like to learn; it may be better to go the NP or Physician route.
Lastly, do not forget about all the exams. In most cases, before a PA can be a licensed/certified PA in their State(USA), PA must also pass a multiple hour board exam covering nearly all aspects of medicine post grad; followed by re-cert board exams every 10 years. The re-cert exam is when PA have to retake another similar version the exam they took post grad. This can be difficult because if you specialize i.e.(Orthopedics) for 10 years and then re-cert comes back around, it may be smart to take a refresher course as it will cover areas of medicine you have not seen in nearly 10 years. There's also multiple hours of continued education hours one must log in order to maintain board certification and license.
In the end, even though he kindly helps to give a general idea of a particular medical profession, as he did in this video with the PA profession; it is however... hard to cover all the in and outs to any medical profession. Thus, it's always recommended to do your homework on a desired profession; before dedicating and sacrificing a big chunk of your life to school.
YEP!😊👋🏾👨🏽⚕️
Depends on specialty + contract!!
@@matty9447
Pathology and Neurology!!! Please!! I beg you! I have been requesting these two for an eternity!
Should do "So you want to be a Veterinarian" at some point
Thank you! I've been waiting for this series! Really appreciate all the hard work you put into these video series!
PAs do take work home, absolutely keep track of patients longitudinally, and definitely participate in overnight call. Many PAs are left unsupervised, especially critical care / IM PAs who work overnight with no supervising physician in house. PAs will run codes, and can preform any procedure a MD can (with permission / experience). The average compensation is actually $115k (AAPA) and rising with 95-100k being a good starting salary. PAs are not just “superficial” (you mainly focused on surgery) - many PAs are designated to be their specialtie’s consulting provider when needed, showing their depth of knowledge in their field of practice outweighs a MD’s knowledge who is practicing in a separate field (despite the education difference).
Thank you very much for creating this video! Happy PA week!
Lol, PA's absolutely cannot perform any procedure an MD can. For light, non surgical procedures maybe. But no patient or surgeon in their right minds would let somebody with a masters degree and no additional training to do surgical procedures.
mel paredes this must be satire. A PA will NEVER outrank a doctor in terms of education and expertise. Never.
@@sara215 I think you meant to tag the other person, I completely agree!
I personally know a PA in cardiac electrophysiology. There is PA for every subspecialties.
I was going to say the same 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for making this video, Dr. J!
Just a heads up that they changed the title from Physician Assistant to Physician Associate!
Not officially and we cannot use it yet legally.
I am a PA but would have applied to medical schools had I been younger. I prefer studying things in depth but there is little time for that in PA school. BTW, there is still the stress of a busy practice and some jobs require that you take call. One can easily work more than 40 hrs./week depending on the patient load. Just sayin....
Thank you so much for making this video. It's very helpful and insightful, especially since I'm applying to PA school.
Thankyou, so much for making this video !🔥🩺🤩
Super excited for the NP video!! This was very good to know thank you!! 🥰🤩
Thank you Dr. Jubal for this amazing video. Being a PA sounds great, too bad it’s not available in Australia
Its being rolled out at JCU
Would love to see you cover Anesthesiologist Assistant someday, since the field doesn’t receive a lot of attention on social media!
This is a great overview video on PA's; I wish I had this to review in early 2000's in considering my career choice.
At this point, I have been a PA-C for over a decade with practice in Neurosurgery, Orthopedic- Foot and Ankle, prolonged volunteer position W Africa inpatient and outpatient Internal Medicine. I have followed my own patients and I collaboration for years, complete basic procedures. This has been a varied and rewarding career.
A few updates to request/suggest
- Please use a different term than midlevels, much as physicians would advocate for use of clinicians or practitioners over providers, this term implies a lot. Associate Practitioners or Advanced Practice Practitioners are common
-PAs take call and work longer hours than you report leading to burnout and work life balance issues, lesser than than MD/DO counterparts, but still significant.
- additional draw back is often very little influence to MD/DO business practice decisions/responsibilities and changes- this is an added driver of burnout/career stressors
Thank you for highlighting that PA's are always learning and gaining practical knowledge with colleagues- we are all better together in medical teams!
what's wrong with saying midlevels?
You are a mid level provider. The physician is on top and the highest level. You provide mid level care = mid level. Accept it and move on. You didn’t go to medical school so you won’t be on top. Pa literally means physician assistant. Get over yourself.
I will never call you advanced. The only advanced person is the doctor.
What's the highest salary you've had as a PA and how long did it take to get there?
@@sara215 Sara, what medical school and residency did you attend?
@@sara215bitter, hateful, and vile
Still impatiently waiting for the “So you want to be an ObGyn” 😔
Please make a rheumatologist version! I know it’s not a well-known subspecialty but surely I’m not the only one interested in rheum? Take your time though,this is just a suggestion 🥺 Love all of your videos
Yes, I do want to be a PA ! I can’t wait
There are many different providers within health care, value discussions and various streams and pools of influence help to bridge gaps in care. When we consider the back end connections of how systems work and how truly valuable expertise is, the Value propositions shift some. For instance, PA's are able to help with a lot of collaborative needs... social workers and translational medicine concepts add value to those realities. The concept of finite need or finite resources isn't exactly accurate. The spheres of influence shift as better understandings grow.
I was fortunate enough to see some great doctors, nurses, PA's, social workers, on and on.... when the career of caring takes the shape of understanding the larger "cogs"; the conversation brightens. Doctors and the decades of training can never be undercut in estimation, but the needs of connections and positive feedback loops while strengthening patient care... these understandings illuminate a lot.
I'm always in awe of providers...
Thank you so much for making this!!!! This was super informative and made things really clear!!!
I'm binge watching your video; They're great!!! Please talk about nontraditional students and medical school. I believe this population group has grown substantially over the past 10-15 years. Thanks 👍🏾
I want to point out that in New York, the median salary is about 140k-150k. I think it’s true as i have multiple friends who have started working in emergency departments fresh out of school for about 140ish.
Emergency medicine is a high-paying field for PAs and with the pricey cost of living in NY those numbers sound about right. He was referencing the national median salary for all-comer PAs which is around $100k.
@@PagethePA yeah i mentioned NY, i was just talking about this here at work with a friend of mine who is also in PA school and about to grad
@@PagethePA about the crazy cost of living and such. Its wild cause in urgent care, PA's can touch close to 200 here
@@xmodMAN76 that's wild
@@PagethePA right? hoping i get in for the ‘22 cycle.
YES! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON THE NURSING TRACT!!! CANT WAIT ❣️
I am 15 year lab assistant getting my BA in clinical Laboratory science and made the decision to study for PA , the disadvantages don’t sound bad …. I’m
Ready 🎉
Love your videos!! I’ve been following you since high school, and I have learned so much! I will be starting med school next fall! After thinking about neurology and neurosurgery through undergrad, now I am thinking about oncology. I would love to see a video on so you want to be an oncologist. I don’t have a mentor to turn to, and your videos have been so helpful throughout my journey. Thank you so much for everything you do!
I’ve been seen by 2 PAs so far in my life and they were some of the worst .
The first was in the ER . I was bleeding days after a fibroid surgery . After the bleeding stopped she told me they saw some a cyst . And I asked her what do I do about the cyst or is the cyst part of expecting my period . She told me she doesn’t know and was very nonchalant about it . She then went to discharge me told me to follow up with my ob/gyn . Will never forget the look on her face and how she talked down to me .
The second was when I was at a physical therapy place . My usual Dr that was good wasn’t around and they had me see this pA . He was in his phone just watching cats on UA-cam . And when he spoke to me he was very dismissing saying they will discharge me from physical therapy . Knowing full well I was still in pain .
My point is , People should go into PA if they have passion for helping people now as a quick way to make money without having any of the responsibilities Drs have of actually treating a patient
One important thing to also consider is the learning environment. If you put medicine into a book during PA school you learn like 70-80% while medial school you learn the whole thing, of course medicine is still expanding but generally that’s the case. PA school is like a race you it starts right off with high intensity a bunch of quizzes every week and a LOT of information crammed in just 2 years but it’s much shorter. Medical school it’s still a bunch of information crammed but medical school is more like a marathon gotta keep a steady rythme but it’s much longer and even after medical school you still got residency. Of course each school has aspects of the other but down to the core pa school was all about getting people competent in medicine quickly and getting them in the workforce and medical school is about getting people very knowledgeable and good at whatever speciality they go in. I think how you learn and what environment you want really is important cuz you don’t wanna burn out while still being in school.
I am an undergrad with desires of going to PA school this video was so valuable 🙌
It’s so hard to decide PA vs doctor vs NP vs CRNA vs anesthesiologist assistant 😩 PA is very appealing but the lack of international opportunity is unfortunate. Becoming a NP seems harder/longer but maybe the slight increase in autonomy is worth it... Doctor is also super nice but school and residency seem so long and intense I wonder if i would regret going the extra mile when being mid level might be just as satisfying or perhaps more satisfying due to starting to work much sooner
wuurks bruh you will get a horrible education as a np, they are seriously dumb. Tbh I’m rotating with a pa student and I’m a med student. They are really bad. Doc is the way to go.
Can you do a video on Anesthesiologist Assistants please?
OMG YES
omg yes I love your channel and am working on becoming a PA ~when worlds collide~
as a person who love being a physician yet afraid of making decisions maybe PA would be a great job for me, after all the salary is giving ✨
I know a new PA grad who got her first job in pediatric oncology
Hmmm...that's an unique sub-specialty for PAs.🤔😊
I wanna do pediatric cardiology 🫀 can I do that
What he says definitely applies to relatively new PAs, but with experience the line can get blurry. I’m a physician who works with PAs in the critical care space, and depending on the physician, a PA job can be like an ongoing fellowship in a specialty if the physicians are willing to make the effort to expand the knowledge and skills of their PAs. An experienced PA who over the years has gradually assumed more responsibility and autonomy as the knowledge and skill base has grown ( very much like a progressing resident or fellow) can become sort of a junior physician, depending of course on the nature of the supervising physicians and their trust and comfort level with PAs.
Would love to see a "so you want to be dentist" someday.
In South Africa, they're called "Clinical Associates" as far as I'm aware.
Please do OBGYN 🥰
That’s was great. I hate to make decisions. That’s why this might be for me.
Can you please do a video like this for health informatics
PA program is good but only if you're willing to accept the limited autonomy. Good luck to everyone!
I'm not so much worried about cost, as I am blessed enough to have assistance with schooling. I am 41 years old, have an 8 year old and 3 year old, as well as somewhat of an introvert......BUT, that being said, I made it through 3.5 years of school 2016-2019 and am currently a rad-tech. Currently working at an UC clinic that also has occupational medicine. My biggest concerns are these: length of schooling (young kids, only an Associates degree currently), classes such as microbiology, chemistry and pharmacology, and lastly having the nerves to be able to present cases to physicians, professors, etc (yay for being an introvert)....but both PAs at my clinic say that I should go for it. They are very, very supportive. I'm SO TORN on what to do. I have taken statistics, Anatomy and physiology lecture and lab as well. Tested out of biology bc of scoring a 24 on ACT
Kevin can you make "So you want to be an Anesthesiologist Assistant" its not as well known as a PA but its a great career and i think it would be a great video to make
I hope you can do a video about being a psychologist as well. I'm a fourth year medical student and was considering psychiatry for my residency. On the other hand, as I've learned the field of psychology in my informal research , and talk to several bright psychological practitioners, I've become to be so much curious about the field than I do with psychiatry. I watch you're video about it, and I loved. I hope you can do one solely for psychologists. Thank you
Do "So You Want to Be a plague doctor" for halloween!
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Physicians: anywhere they offer your specialty, there is a job for you. You can even start your own practice.
PAs: anywhere there is a physican, there is a job for you. More limitations on starting your own practice but possible, this is rare.
Physicians will be your boss, which is not bad, physicians are great to work with, find a physician that you can vibe with and gives you autonomy to work independently within the clinic/hospital. If you don't match energy with your physician, then the amazing part of being a PA is that you can move down the road to the next clinic or hospital. You are not limited to location, you can work anywhere and with any specialty you choose too, you can even do locums (travel PA). Just be the best and most competitive PA you can be and you will be an amazing provider.
My personal opinion, being a PA has more benefits than being a Phycisian. Flexibility, hours, salary, and location. You get less money, and are not the boss, but with $100k you will be happy and who wants to be the boss of a clinic or department in a hospital when you can just work with a great boss and leave work at work when you clock out. Then enjoy your life at home with amazing income and time. You don't spend 6 additional years learning, you don't stress worrying about picking the "perfect" specialty because you can just switch as a PA. Time is the most valuable thing we have, and being a PA saves you a lot of time that you can be using making life long memories. Be smart, invest, save money, get more sources of income, and with a 6 figure salary the world is your oyster. Enjoy the amazing life you will have, but do not be comfortable, always look at what else you can do, always have a new goal, and something to strive for even after you are in the career you want to be in.
As a PA, I agree. I love this profession. I don’t want to be a physician.
Could you do a video on Pediatric Surgeons? Also a video on how middle school students could get ahead in science and medicine knowledge? I’m in middle school and I want to pursue medicine, what can I do?
Current medical student here. Just do well in middle and high school and establish good study strategies that will set you up for success in your college academics. Relax and have fun. Be a teenager. Do some light shadowing in high school if you get the chance. No need to worry about doing things for medical school until you are in college.
Thomas Schumann, thanks, that’s really helpful. I hope you do well in med school.
@@thomasschumann4034 completely agree ! Enjoy middle school and high school cuz later this trend of enjoyment and leisure time just tends to diminish imo
@@thomasschumann4034 thank you! i'm in middle school as well, but my memory isn't the best. any good study tips that might be able to help me?
@@chaeglows your brain is still developing, don't worry about judging yourself now! Focus on understanding topics rather than memorizing them only. Make flashcards to memorize a good base of knowledge about a topic, and then do practice questions to apply that knowledge. Doing well in school isn't determined by having a good memory or not. Don't worry about it, have fun as a kid.
Ima start school in two weeks so I can get started on being a PA I’m a medical assistant at the moment but want to progress and I love my job and helping people .
where is psychiatrist?
exactly i been waiting foreverrrr
Ong bro
You can’t just make one in an hour. He spends DAYS making one of these to make sure the best information out possible
@@stevendijorio2624 there was a poll about 3 months ago and psychiatry was top vote. there was another poll with similar results made around 1-2 months ago. i think they had some time to make "so you want to be a psychiatrist"
he uploaded it recently.
Hi Med School Insiders, I like your content. I love watching your videos.
I decided I wanted to be a PA a few days ago, taking a bunch of Health related elective classes as well as Physics Biology and Chemistry.
Yayyy!! I was hoping you did this😭 im a pre-PA student w/ a channel documenting my journey :) applying next cycle.
any other pre-PAs watching? ❤️