DEFENSE always wins Championships 🏆. Last year, after the Michigan loss, Jim K. should have implemented this years defensive schemes. If Kyle M. figures out how to SLOW the game down in his mind, no one will beat this team. Another National Championship will come this way to THE. Opportunities are very fleeting....all the pieces must fit together.
The program was in the mud when Franklin took over. I think he’s doing great job turning it around. The late Great Joe Paterno had losing records against the Big two schools. It’s just the way the program is built.
Do you think day can be considered elite? Considering what’s happened with Michigan now and no nattys? Not saying he’s bad by any stretch just maybe not elite… yet
@@jermainesmith6315I fully agree. He has done incredible job turning Penn St. around when like you said with the program iin a very tough spot after the Jerry Sandusky scandal. Every coach and player has weaknesses and strengths. I think Franklin has done an amzing job recruitting, like seriously amazing. But in the big games its almost as if he panics and does some crazy head scratching moves. Thats all my thought is, but everyone sees things different
Born and raised in Western North Carolina myself 4 miles from Georgia 30 from Tennessee. My Grandfather was a Navy ROTC instructor at tOSU from 68-73 I'm a life long Buckeye.O-H
@@endcensorship874 Except Cooper would beat everyone else except their arch rival lol. He tied one year, and called it a win for them. The one year he did beat them he lost to Michigan State. Cooper had all the talent you could ask for on his teams, and hence was lost on his biggest rival. Not being from Ohio/Michigan he had no idea how big this rivalry was.
not the same. John Cooper had teams that performed really well and had teams that were contending for natties while Mich was just average. Yet, Cooper would still lose to Mich, even at home, year after year. Franklin is not losing games against worse teams, esp not in the last cpl years
They didn’t even have their best back and #2 WR. OSU will have that moment where they remind everyone just how dominant they can be on both sides of the ball. Oh, and their best corner and arguably best defensive player didn’t even play. OSU hasn’t even peaked yet. Good video, Josh.
@@OhioVworld Against vastly overrated teams (ND's other loss looks absolutely terrible and their USC win isn't looking like a good one anymore). You try to say Michigan played nobody yet, but neither did Penn State. You want your cake and eat it too.
You can't just look at the score and say it wasn't a dominant effort. The defense held Penn State to 7 total yards in the 2nd half before that garbage time TD drive against the backups. That's a DOMINANT performance. The score was literally 20 to 6 a 2 TD win until the backups got put in. @@toddjohnson271
@PrezRL-mu4th I watched the game.....one turnover (like the one they called back), one score and PSU wins. It was not dominant. OSU was better but it was not decisive. I did watch....did you?
It just feels like Penn State is in the Same Situation Michigan was about a Few Years Ago. Remember all the Talk where people were saying 'Michigan would NEVER get over the hump that is Ohio State'? That Michigan under Jim Harbough would be 'Good, but Not Great'? That Michigan would 'ALWAYS be Second-Fiddle to Buckeye Nation'? Penn State is in that same position, From my Perspective, and I believe they are closer than people realize.
I would agree if we weren't having the same conversation about penn state 5 years ago. Harbaugh did end up bringing Michigan over the hump. I'm not sure how much faith I'd have in franklin being able to do the same with Penn State. Its tough because it's not like I'd advocate for firing franklin, I don't really think anyone can do his job much better than he is, but I think there's much more of a ceiling on how far he can go than I ever would have given Harbaugh.
Difference is Franklin has been there 10 years now. He is what he is. A good defensive coach who can beat up on the lesser teams, but sucks in the big games. He is now 1-9 against Ohio State and 1-9 on the road against Ohio State and Michigan and that 1 win was against a 2-4 Michigan team with zero fans in the stands.
Defensively my Nittany Lions 🦁 are great, literally!!!! Manny Diaz and the boys have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of Saturday after the outcome!!!! Offense needs tons of work and Yursich is overrated, it pains me to admit the facts as a die hard Nittany Lions 🦁 fan!!!! 10 or 11 wins after the bowl game is Franklin 's ceiling!!!!
You're wrong about one part of that, Josh. Ryan Day didn't get serious about making changes after last season & take steps to finally transform his team. It was LONG before that! Once his defense proved inept vs Oregon, (& he knew he had a big problem), in just Stroud's 2nd game l believe, Ryan started taking action then, that season. Does anybody remember when he immediately stripped his new DC Kerry Combs of the play-calling duties?! Years ago, l heard analysts speaking to a grizzled old veteran (l think it was Bill Polian, l love to hear such knowledgeable veterans talk, the elite of the elite!) during a game, about what a coach can do when he realizes one of his hires isnt the man they thought they were. He said there's 2 things you can do. You either make what changes you can & try to compensate to get through the season as best you can, and then let them go. Or you fire them midseason & try to bring in a whole new guy to take over, both are very hard to do, it takes time to completely replace someone. I was like "Whoa! I guess there really is only 2 things you can do, & those other football experts actually didn't know what he fully understood about managing a team!!". Obviously Ryan made what adjustments he could, also having one of the other coaches pitch in, l forget his name & they tried to make adjustments & coach up the defense as best they could. Equally as obvious, he did his homework, identified the top guy that he wanted to work with & spoke to "The Mad Scientist" at the other OSU, in Oklahoma as soon as he was able to. Bringing him on board after the Buckeyes finished the season losing in Ann Arbor (& were out-physicaled by that Aidan Hutchinson led team, when everybody started saying "Ohio State is just too soft) & the subsequent victorious shootout in the Rose Bowl vs Utah. Jim Knowles worked feverishly to install the foundation of an entirely new defensive scheme last season, but it wasn't quite elite yet. This year it is much more evident what Jim Knowles is doing & what a brilliant defensive mind he is, but Ryan took action immediately, handled it, & this has been in the works for years now!
The goal is to make Penn State BEAT Ohio State and Michigan. When you're paying top dollar, you damn well better be as good as Ryan Day and Jim Harbaugh. I could care less about the overrated rant. He needs to start winning big games. Underrated and overrated is quite frankly irrelevant to the situation.
It's Josh Pate having to talk this game up to ridiculous heights for being invited and covering the game. It was kind of a weird take. He never finished describing what Ryan Day's and OSU's identity is, lol. Kinda left us hanging and it seemed a little forced.
@@Mike-sp7zvRyan Day's first hire was Jeff Hafley, which was a homerun hire.. he was so good he got head coaching offers and dipped after one season..
That is why Day is an elite coach. Not only did he not keep Grinch, but he moved on from Coombs after an 11-2 Rose Bowl winning season despite Coombs being an Ohio guy through and through. Meanwhile Lincoln Riley has held onto Grinch for 5 years and prevented USC from being elite despite having the top QB in the country.
Coach Day took a big step forward away from TTUN losses. We still need to see it keep improving this year! having lived through the John Cooper era, maybe my expectations are too high. But that defense is fun to watch!
@@bosmith1820I think Day is a really, REALLY good coach but I can't call him elite yet. He was handed a program already established as one of the very best and hasn't been able to get over the hump. Not saying he won't, but he still has a good bit to prove before he can into the elite category.
@@bosmith1820 yeah, Tressel def had a period like this. His last five years he was 56-9. His last six years he was 66-11. And it was Treasel's program that he built. That's really the difference. He also got over the hump and OWNED Michigan. Again, I'm not digging Day, I think he can get there. He just hasn't proven it yet.
@@doc8013 That isn't as good as Day and he definitely didn't get over the hump in those years and Michigan was a vastly inferior program. He also lost to Wisconsin every other year.
Bruce Feldman ranked James Franklin ahead of Ryan Day this year when ranking college coaches. I know it's just one example, but Feldman is a big name in cfb circles so it's not like it was some local beat writer in Happy Valley. I think the biggest knock against Franklin is his tendency to turn 5 star QBs into mediocre NFL prospects. I have nothing against Allar, but man he was missing by a mile on a lot of throws this weekend.
Great point about Franklin wins the game he supposed to win. PSU fans would like to see a few wins against top competition, but you can't say he is overrated. He unfortunately came into State College when Urban Meyer and Ryan Day were in Columbus and now Harbaugh in Ann Arbor. Penn State has performed well in bowls and is a solid and stable program with top players.
The defense this year is stellar. The offense is more methodical and is focused on limiting mistakes made to give other teams less time to cook against us. Josh is correct with his sledgehammer analogies. We look like a different team because we have to be. We look less flashy but we have to be tougher and be able to bludgeon TTUN to death, outlast them and limit their scoring chances. The Game, might be more close than folks think with the chances our defense can create and with our offense taking their sweet time on top of that and limiting how much time other teams can have the ball.
In my opinion, the slow down on the offensive side for OSU is due to lack of depth/experience on the OL and a new QB who isn't as consistent/accurate as the previous QBs (yet?). Both of those things can change next year.
My buckeyes need to get healthy and tread lightly with Wisconsin and Rutgers. Ryan day has an offensive mind. They have NFL players on offense, if we lose a game we can’t blame the defense. He better get the offense rolling before Michigan.
Wisconsin and Rutgers are not going to come close to beating them. Wisconsin has struggled on offense worse than Ohio State and Rutgers is one of 10 Big 10 schools that is completely abysmal on offense. Wiscy and Rutgers will be lucky to score 3 points on them.
I'm gonna re-watch that psu game , I think were close on offense to popping 40 at will once Kyle finds a rhythm and can find one quickly. I think this line is improving . It felt like there were plenty of missed plays thats was more of Kyle's timing then PSUs defense. I i think we will have it in the next 2 games buttoned up enough to gets points resulting. Trying not to be bias but I see more signs of optimism than concern now. This game being the turning point
@warriorking72 the thing is, we're missing so many key pieces on both sides of the ball and still dominated Penn state. The score is not an accurate picture of how badly we really did dismantle them. Just imagine how it looks when we get the last few pieces of offense put together. We're a championship caliber team and any one who says we're not isbeither blind or stupid. Can't change my mind after watching the Penn state game
DEFENSE always wins Championships 🏆. Last year, after the Michigan loss, Jim K. should have implemented this years defensive schemes. If Kyle M. figures out how to SLOW the game down in his mind, no one will beat this team. Another National Championship will come this way to THE. Opportunities are very fleeting....all the pieces must fit together.
Couldn’t agree more with the idea that James Franklin is accurately rated most of the time. Do you think Penn State as a program is seriously asking the question if they’re content or willing to move on from Franklin?
They won't move on from him anytime soon. He just signed a 10 year 85 million dollar contract. He also regularly wins 10 games. If they were going to move on from him, they should have done it before giving him the monster contract.
I wouldn’t say the fan base is content. Living in PA, I hear a lot of people complain that he hasn’t gotten over the hump, but they are usually willing to acknowledge that he is better than most alternatives. I do remember a couple people hoping for Luke Fickell after the 2021 season started to go poorly. But 2022 was a success and this year has been too so far. I do think 2024 might be a make or break year for the fanbase with Allars second season and a lot of returning starters more than likely
@@kyleorndorff1304 Franklin just signed a 10 year extension. He definitely isn't going anywhere. The make or break year was 2021 and despite going 7-5 after a losing 2020 season, Penn State decided to give him a massive extension. That would have been the perfect time for a mutual exit and try another coach who could actually win big games every so often. Now you will have some success, but never get over the hump.
When you have this big of a game/win how does the coaching staff handle recruits at the same time? The reports from recruits at The Shoe this weekend all mention time w key coaches, how??
Franklin is a very good coach and PSU is a very good team/program. His PSU win record is about 70-75% and that includes a couple down years. For anybody at PSU that wants to upgrade their coach, take a lesson from Nebraska who got rid of Frank Solich and Bo Pelini because they couldn't get over the 9 win/season hump. These days, they are lucky to get 6 wins and go to a bowl. Now if my Buckeyes sank down to average 9 win seasons (75%), the Buckeye Nation would revolt but these 2 are very different programs with different expectations.
I think that having a year in the system helps a lot too. The linebackers and defensive backs are in much better positions this year. (esp the safeties) Having more reps and reading the offense in this system is paying off.
When we say he’s overrated, we’re not comparing him to future hall of fame coaches obviously, we are comparing him to the standard we should have nowadays in Happy Valley. Someone that can win the big game once ever 2 or 3 years at least and make a run
What standard are you talking about? Paterno won two championships in 45 years. He had a 75% winning percentage. Franklin has a 73% percentage while having to deal with coming off sanctions. He also has to deal with Meyer, Day and Harbaugh.
@@Al-Rudigor interesting point but a young Paterno was much better than elderly Paterno. For the last decade plus Paterno should have been retired. wondering how knocking off those mediocre or even losing seasons would impact the percentage. at the same time, Franklin should be given a pass for the first five years when he had to deal with scholarship restrictions he inherited.
It's time for james franklin to be held accountable for us always being mediocre. 10 million dollars a year should make us competitive for national Championships. Not just to make bowl games.
All due respect to OSU D. PSU atrocious passing game matched against an elite D made for a poor performance from our Lions. I feel bad for PSU D who fought so hard to keep us in this game. Good luck to the Bucks. James Franklin will never break through, hire Manny!
I assume what people mean when they say that Franklin is “overrated”, they mean that he’s overmatched. It appears to me that Pennstate is 2 years behind in their game strategy and mentality. They do not change to keep up, but try and prepare every year to play and beat Ohio state from two years ago. They need to catch up, or they’ll be left behind permanently. The gap is only growing, not getting smaller.
Yeah, this "Garbage Time TD" talk is insane, lmao. If the score was still more than a TD and a half after Penn St score, then yes. But a play was still possible to get ball back and then score with 2pt conversion. The fluffing up of this game is bizarre to say the least.
A lot of people act like Ohio States offense is as bad as Iowa’s lol. Ohio State ranks 14th in the nation in passing offense. Sure, it isn’t a top 5 offense like previous seasons, but it’s also far from a bad offense. Against Penn State, they were missing Treyvon Henderson who is their best running back and Emeka Egbuka their second best receiver, and still had 365 yards of offense vs a very good Penn State defense. They do need to drastically improve in the red zone, but overall, their offense is good enough when paired with that defense.
The Silver Bullets are officially back! Ohio State should've honestly won at least 31-6, Ohio State's M.O. has been to leave a lot of points on the field which needs to change, they struggle in the redzone.. the scoreboard makes it look closer than it was, but props to Penn State's defense, it's legit..
Our offense should’ve done better I agree with you and what the score should’ve been if we were playing our best on offense. Problem is I don’t think we can fix our running game/o line play
As a OSU fan psu problem is the talent depth. They can match anyones starters but after that its 🤷🏾♂️ and even the starters arent always elite. When u look at michigan even though they dont receuit better than osu, the thing the do very well at is having the depth to compete along with some elite players
I don’t know if they will win a natty with Day. They recruit well stay in the top tier of teams but it was that way when he got to osu. And he has kept the program really good but with the talent it just seems they won’t get over the hump.( National Championship) and have no excuse for not. He was handed a Ferrari, maintains it well, gets great replacement parts. But just can’t drive it right
As a Penn State fan I like Franklin. First off I have seen programs get rid of their 10-2 coach only to go to 5-7 with someone new. Are we OSU yet? No… But lets be honest. OSU has got 4 more 5 star players every recruiting round. Until we close that gap i fear we will see the same result. Credit Michigan for changing the equation.
I think Josh’s point about James Franklin not being overrated is not good. Saying someone is not overrated just because they wasn’t favored to begin with is a safe way to absolve someone of criticism. Penn State is a blue blood that is suppose to beat Minnesota Indiana Purdue etc. but when it comes to hanging with Ohio State and Michigan they are suppose to do just that. Being 1-9 and 3-6 is unacceptable especially when they recruit on the same level as Michigan. Media wanted Jim Harbaugh fired because he couldn’t beat Ohio State and even docked his pay for it.
I truly appreciate your commentary, you should think about doing some motivational speaking. Successful people do show up on Monday, successful people typically are if you will more dangerous when things go sideways well said!
This game will always be James Franklin,s game to choke every year along as he is the coach at Penn state James Franklin will not open the play book enough to beat teams like Ohio State, if the AD can't figure the problem is James Franklin
Your logic re: being overrated is off the mark. You’re not paid $10m/year to be the head coach ANYWHERE and lose to your two tough opponents every year. $10m/year is not a salary that says, “I’m just here to beat 10 weaklings, and then dump to the two powerhouses.” $10m/year is: “You need to be 5-5 against the Big Dawgs.” Let me tell you something: I’ll be happy to take over this program tomorrow by myself, and I’ll go out there and whip Northwestern for a lot less money.
Even missing a few of their top skill players, the Buckeyes cruised. Franklin really blew any hope with his 4th down attempt down one score from his own 43 with over 7 minutes left. Dumb, dumb decision. Failed attempt and Bucks virtually closed the game out with a TD going up two scores with 4 minutes to go.
I think the Franklin overrated argument is more valid when discussing if hes on the hot seat or not. Is he good enough to remain PSUs coach? I think thats the better debate than the debate of comparing him to Harbaugh / Day
Penn State won't get over the hump with Franklin against Day or Harbaugh in terms of recruiting or transfer portal unless he can figure out a way to get the better talent. I think most Nittany Lion fans would prefer someone who could get them over the hump sooner than later. Personally I don't think Franklin is it.
James Franklin Penn St=Brian Kelly ND. Joke to everyone that's not a fan. Maybe you should never be ranked top 10 if you can't win a game vs a top 10 team. But Josh loves James, so he is 1000% biased. Just admit your man crush and we can move on.
The stands at beaver stadium are full every game and they sell plenty of beer so the University is happy. The team is just good enough to fill the seats and get into a bowl game thats all they care about. When penn state gets crushed by Michigan, Franklin should be fired the next day.
With two Top Ten wins on their resume how is it that OSU did not rise one inch in the rankings? Georgia has played nobody on its cupcake schedule and the same could be said for that school up north! I guess it really is "Ohio against the world" when it comes to college rankings!
Penn state hits like girls powderpuff and Franklin is always the joke of the big ten. If Penn state didn’t have such a good in state talent pool and recruits itself Franklin would be worse than Tucker was.
it's pretty amazing watching ESPN talk down Ohio St. weekly, while propping up FSU and Georgia. I get they haven't looked great, but having OSU at #6 in their power rankings after playing and beating TWO top 10 teams is a complete joke. i honestly believe they're worried for the SEC, and need to talk down top teams from other conferences... ? not sure.
as a Psu fan, i agree. 2 top 10 wins should put OSU definitely above michigan for sure and i could argue UGA but i could also argue that they’re the defending champs. and no one realizes that FSU would’ve lost to Duke if Leonard didn’t come out of the game. OSU>FSU
The third ranked team in the nation on their home field beat the seventh ranked team in a close game, how shocking. Seriously, that's how it's supposed to play out. Also that BS defensive holding call against Penn State that stripped them of a score changed the game. Within three seconds of the ball being snapped, Penn State's defense knocked it out of the Ohio State's QBs hand. So the hold was irrelevant, it did not affect the play at all. Also there's a hold on every play to be honest. Yes , Penn States offensive could have played better, in a tight close defensive game, but having seven points taking away is huge and swings the momentum the other way.
If Allar had gone someplace that can develop a QB, he'd probably be a star by next year. All top-rated QBs regress under Franklin, the only reason why McSorley improved is because he had Moorhead
Need to give Allar time to develop. We've been used to Sean Clifford with 6 years under his belt, this was Allar's 7th start and MY did nothing to help him get settled
I expect a rematch like last year's actual Natty was OSU-UGA, I'll be surprised if it doesn't come to the same this year. Based on contemporary top flight, supremely successful programs. And also, Oscar Delp "ain't" no slouch. We don't absolutely require perhaps the best CFB Tight End ever, to win against all remaining opponents. And Ladd seems to be 100% back in it, too. Not to mention a commercial sized hangar full of winged WR's + 2 proven QB's able to serve them to stardom. And the OL stout, deep, and well trained enough to give them time that makes everything ¡Go! offensively. A Line of monster Dudes that blow holes in DL walls big enough for studs to run through. And we have studs, that run through. 🙂 biased? Of course. Doesn't have to mean lacking factual substance,
I mean, Sometimes you just have to be happy with a win, no matter what... But if I were an OSU fan, I would be very concerned with how your team play against a Penn St team that looked about as explosive on offense as Iowa... And you only won by 8 pts!!! Now penn st...My goodness, that was the worst playcalling on offense I have ever seen. I get you are undersized at WR...so why don't you dump it off to your 6'6" TE's and keep those Linebackers honest, then open up your run game. That whole game was boring and painful to watch. The space between Michigan (the pride of the Big 10) and these two teams is larger than any other team and its conference.
So much for the "soft" BS that's been flying around. -- OSU was physical as hell. I noticed they carried off several PS players ? ---- BUCKEYES BEAT EM UP !!! ---- Last year - prior to the Georgia game - OSU was 8 -- 2 > '''''as an underdog since 2000 !''''' And ALMOST was 9 -- 2 ? - - - - - Fans often get emotional and it causes irrational thinking.
@@johnnyoldenjr.And your offense is playing Trash Valley State and Terrible Tech every week. 😂 shocking how arrogant yall can be while cheating and still not winning playoff games.
This was a bigger loss for PSU than win for Ohio. Way more about PSU lack of execution and poor play calling in key situations. Typical James Franklin fashion. Ohio was expected to win this game.
Offense will get better Play Hayden at RB screw that red shirt he has good vision and speed, Kyle plz set feet & hit wide open Wrs.. you left alot on the feild Defense is legit and Burke get healthy play true fresh j.matthews some more next few games .. Just win baby 🏆🌰🅾️💪
I'd like to know, because I haven't watched either team all season, are both of these teams that awful at rushing or are both of their defenses just that stacked against it?
Really good defenses on both sides especially Ohio State's secondary which has been pretty close to lock down. Allar is a good QB but he hasn't proven he can throw a deep ball as Franklin doesn't seem to want to let him.
OSUs offense has a total of 889 yards rushing on the entire season, averaging 3.8 yards per carry. Yes, they're awful at running the ball against mostly everyone. PSU has also been fairly anemic running the ball this season, with two RBs largely splitting carries and around 800 yards between the two of them...with a long rush of 20 yards. Their YPC is slightly higher than OSU but they haven't been explosive in any games this season.
Terrible game plan and play calling for PSU. RBs and the OL is the strength of the team but they got away from the running game too early and settled for trick plays. Bad game plan
I know a lot of ppl assume that it's easy sailing until The Game in Ann Arbor. Let me say this that is rat poison don't swallow it. Camp Randall at night with Luke fickell at the helm those games are slugfest. Greg Schiano's crazy ass who did coach at OSU has a bowl eligible team who will pull out all stops. The Game is the game, but please this wk do not swallow the cheese. Go Bucks‼️
They are who we thought they were, same soft team, with a worse offense than they had last year. They win because they Marvin and Allan is NOT who PSU thought they were. They have no passing game. And neither team has an elite running game. UM is a team with the defense of these two teams with a running game and an elite QB.
I am so sick of being a Penn State fan. The issue is there is no joy. The whole fanbase boils the entire year, 365 days to 2 days which are disappointing year in year out. We don't even get to enjoy beating everyone else. Beat Maryland who cares you were supposed too. Smoke Iowa at home, congrats nobody cares. I will not allow myself to believe for that Michigan game. Can't do it, can't get hurt if you know you lost before kickoff
Ok then if overrated isn't the right word then he's just not good enough to get past Michigan and Ohio State and as a result Penn State shouldn't be treated like a top 10 team so long as he is their coach.
This game was so much more close to be blown open then i think any of us realize. Kyle McCord had a stretch of inaccurate balls that if were just a little better placed or timed would have extended drives .The defense looks cemented. As the o line continues to mesh and if Kyle gets a rhythm. I think we can start hitting 40 a game. It's in the game plan, there for the taking. It feels like its in reach. We will see.
Let’s not forget the dropped balls and some bad play or predictable play calls also. This game was more dominant than the score showed. Literally one or two plays on every drive from scoring. Also a missed field goal and a last ditch effort TD is the only reason it wasn’t a double digit win.
If you argue this, you need to acknowledge the fact that Drew Allar had an awful game. He was clearly out of his element and missed a lot of throws that could have changed the momentum of the game
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DEFENSE always wins Championships 🏆. Last year, after the Michigan loss, Jim K. should have implemented this years defensive schemes. If Kyle M. figures out how to SLOW the game down in his mind, no one will beat this team. Another National Championship will come this way to THE. Opportunities are very fleeting....all the pieces must fit together.
Josh I feel like your fashion style should be called "The Homer Simpson" 😂
The program was in the mud when Franklin took over. I think he’s doing great job turning it around. The late Great Joe Paterno had losing records against the Big two schools. It’s just the way the program is built.
Do you think day can be considered elite? Considering what’s happened with Michigan now and no nattys? Not saying he’s bad by any stretch just maybe not elite… yet
@@jermainesmith6315I fully agree. He has done incredible job turning Penn St. around when like you said with the program iin a very tough spot after the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
Every coach and player has weaknesses and strengths. I think Franklin has done an amzing job recruitting, like seriously amazing. But in the big games its almost as if he panics and does some crazy head scratching moves. Thats all my thought is, but everyone sees things different
OSU is playing complementary football. Ryan Day is finally being the coach of the bucks, and not the coach of the offense.
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James Franklin is Penn State’s John Cooper. He just can’t beat his two biggest rivals.
Wow, digging back into the way back machine for that reference. Ain't wrong, tho.
Only beats cupcake teams
yeah he is a total pretender. Good at getting Penn State respectable, but nothing beyond that. Lucky for them a 12 team playoff is coming.
@@endcensorship874 Except Cooper would beat everyone else except their arch rival lol. He tied one year, and called it a win for them. The one year he did beat them he lost to Michigan State. Cooper had all the talent you could ask for on his teams, and hence was lost on his biggest rival. Not being from Ohio/Michigan he had no idea how big this rivalry was.
not the same. John Cooper had teams that performed really well and had teams that were contending for natties while Mich was just average. Yet, Cooper would still lose to Mich, even at home, year after year. Franklin is not losing games against worse teams, esp not in the last cpl years
They didn’t even have their best back and #2 WR. OSU will have that moment where they remind everyone just how dominant they can be on both sides of the ball. Oh, and their best corner and arguably best defensive player didn’t even play. OSU hasn’t even peaked yet. Good video, Josh.
Woulda coulda shoulda
@@bk6555No losses and two top 10 wins.😊
@@OhioVworld Against vastly overrated teams (ND's other loss looks absolutely terrible and their USC win isn't looking like a good one anymore). You try to say Michigan played nobody yet, but neither did Penn State. You want your cake and eat it too.
Ok let’s wait until Michigan plays a real team
@@bk6555oh wow.. add a Surveilance Surplus On week 12
Ohio State has obvious improvements to make on Offense and was still dominate
They weren't dominant.......the score was right there the whole game.
@@toddjohnson271no it wasn’t. The o my reason it’s not a blowout is because Kyle can’t throw.
You can't just look at the score and say it wasn't a dominant effort. The defense held Penn State to 7 total yards in the 2nd half before that garbage time TD drive against the backups. That's a DOMINANT performance. The score was literally 20 to 6 a 2 TD win until the backups got put in. @@toddjohnson271
@PrezRL-mu4th I watched the game.....one turnover (like the one they called back), one score and PSU wins. It was not dominant. OSU was better but it was not decisive. I did watch....did you?
@@wendyuwaje Ok...if pigs had wings.......it was a close game.
PSU is a very good defense but OSU is a greater offense and defense team
Osu didn't win due to there offense
@@___m7425 I mean OSU offenses and defense are better than PSU offense and defense that’s why PSU loses the game
Sure they did, they scored more points. Lol
It just feels like Penn State is in the Same Situation Michigan was about a Few Years Ago.
Remember all the Talk where people were saying 'Michigan would NEVER get over the hump that is Ohio State'? That Michigan under Jim Harbough would be 'Good, but Not Great'? That Michigan would 'ALWAYS be Second-Fiddle to Buckeye Nation'?
Penn State is in that same position, From my Perspective, and I believe they are closer than people realize.
I would agree if we weren't having the same conversation about penn state 5 years ago. Harbaugh did end up bringing Michigan over the hump. I'm not sure how much faith I'd have in franklin being able to do the same with Penn State.
Its tough because it's not like I'd advocate for firing franklin, I don't really think anyone can do his job much better than he is, but I think there's much more of a ceiling on how far he can go than I ever would have given Harbaugh.
@@eyeguess8549well, maybe if Franklin starts cheating he can get over the hump.
Difference is Franklin has been there 10 years now. He is what he is. A good defensive coach who can beat up on the lesser teams, but sucks in the big games. He is now 1-9 against Ohio State and 1-9 on the road against Ohio State and Michigan and that 1 win was against a 2-4 Michigan team with zero fans in the stands.
Defensively my Nittany Lions 🦁 are great, literally!!!! Manny Diaz and the boys have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of Saturday after the outcome!!!! Offense needs tons of work and Yursich is overrated, it pains me to admit the facts as a die hard Nittany Lions 🦁 fan!!!! 10 or 11 wins after the bowl game is Franklin 's ceiling!!!!
From your lips to God's ears. Because you are absolutely right
You're wrong about one part of that, Josh. Ryan Day didn't get serious about making changes after last season & take steps to finally transform his team. It was LONG before that! Once his defense proved inept vs Oregon, (& he knew he had a big problem), in just Stroud's 2nd game l believe, Ryan started taking action then, that season. Does anybody remember when he immediately stripped his new DC Kerry Combs of the play-calling duties?! Years ago, l heard analysts speaking to a grizzled old veteran (l think it was Bill Polian, l love to hear such knowledgeable veterans talk, the elite of the elite!) during a game, about what a coach can do when he realizes one of his hires isnt the man they thought they were. He said there's 2 things you can do. You either make what changes you can & try to compensate to get through the season as best you can, and then let them go. Or you fire them midseason & try to bring in a whole new guy to take over, both are very hard to do, it takes time to completely replace someone. I was like "Whoa! I guess there really is only 2 things you can do, & those other football experts actually didn't know what he fully understood about managing a team!!". Obviously Ryan made what adjustments he could, also having one of the other coaches pitch in, l forget his name & they tried to make adjustments & coach up the defense as best they could. Equally as obvious, he did his homework, identified the top guy that he wanted to work with & spoke to "The Mad Scientist" at the other OSU, in Oklahoma as soon as he was able to. Bringing him on board after the Buckeyes finished the season losing in Ann Arbor (& were out-physicaled by that Aidan Hutchinson led team, when everybody started saying "Ohio State is just too soft) & the subsequent victorious shootout in the Rose Bowl vs Utah. Jim Knowles worked feverishly to install the foundation of an entirely new defensive scheme last season, but it wasn't quite elite yet. This year it is much more evident what Jim Knowles is doing & what a brilliant defensive mind he is, but Ryan took action immediately, handled it, & this has been in the works for years now!
The goal is to make Penn State BEAT Ohio State and Michigan. When you're paying top dollar, you damn well better be as good as Ryan Day and Jim Harbaugh.
I could care less about the overrated rant. He needs to start winning big games. Underrated and overrated is quite frankly irrelevant to the situation.
It's Josh Pate having to talk this game up to ridiculous heights for being invited and covering the game. It was kind of a weird take. He never finished describing what Ryan Day's and OSU's identity is, lol. Kinda left us hanging and it seemed a little forced.
Most people don't say he's overrated either. They just say that he sucks. Which he does in the 4th quarter.
I forget that Ryan Day started out with Alex Grinch as an option. I imagine buckeye fans are glad he didn't stick around for long.
Kerry combs
@@Mike-sp7zv Day and Grinch were coordinators under Urban Meyer in 2018, but they moved on from Grinch when Day was made head coach
@@Mike-sp7zvRyan Day's first hire was Jeff Hafley, which was a homerun hire.. he was so good he got head coaching offers and dipped after one season..
@@BB13131313not sure if Hafley is a good head coach tho as we see
That is why Day is an elite coach. Not only did he not keep Grinch, but he moved on from Coombs after an 11-2 Rose Bowl winning season despite Coombs being an Ohio guy through and through.
Meanwhile Lincoln Riley has held onto Grinch for 5 years and prevented USC from being elite despite having the top QB in the country.
Ohio St .... With 2 of their best offensive weapons and their best corner
Coach Day took a big step forward away from TTUN losses. We still need to see it keep improving this year! having lived through the John Cooper era, maybe my expectations are too high. But that defense is fun to watch!
Day is an elite coach regardless of the Michigan game. 52-6 is unreal! Franklin is a pretender.
@@bosmith1820I think Day is a really, REALLY good coach but I can't call him elite yet. He was handed a program already established as one of the very best and hasn't been able to get over the hump. Not saying he won't, but he still has a good bit to prove before he can into the elite category.
@@doc8013 Who is elite? Hard to go 52-6 anywhere? Was Tressel elite? HIs best 5 year period wasn't as good as this.
@@bosmith1820 yeah, Tressel def had a period like this. His last five years he was 56-9. His last six years he was 66-11. And it was Treasel's program that he built. That's really the difference. He also got over the hump and OWNED Michigan. Again, I'm not digging Day, I think he can get there. He just hasn't proven it yet.
@@doc8013 That isn't as good as Day and he definitely didn't get over the hump in those years and Michigan was a vastly inferior program. He also lost to Wisconsin every other year.
Bruce Feldman ranked James Franklin ahead of Ryan Day this year when ranking college coaches. I know it's just one example, but Feldman is a big name in cfb circles so it's not like it was some local beat writer in Happy Valley. I think the biggest knock against Franklin is his tendency to turn 5 star QBs into mediocre NFL prospects. I have nothing against Allar, but man he was missing by a mile on a lot of throws this weekend.
that guy is always wrong
Both QB s are holding their teams back.
McCord is on pace to have more passing yards than Fields had in 2019. He gets going in the second half a lot during games
@@GoBuckeyes216Fields didn't play though in the fourth quarter most of the time because they were destroying almost everyone.
Great point about Franklin wins the game he supposed to win. PSU fans would like to see a few wins against top competition, but you can't say he is overrated. He unfortunately came into State College when Urban Meyer and Ryan Day were in Columbus and now Harbaugh in Ann Arbor. Penn State has performed well in bowls and is a solid and stable program with top players.
Penn st fans want a top tier team, they arent one, theyre a decent team, better than the bottom dwellers but not up to the best teams.
The defense this year is stellar. The offense is more methodical and is focused on limiting mistakes made to give other teams less time to cook against us. Josh is correct with his sledgehammer analogies. We look like a different team because we have to be. We look less flashy but we have to be tougher and be able to bludgeon TTUN to death, outlast them and limit their scoring chances. The Game, might be more close than folks think with the chances our defense can create and with our offense taking their sweet time on top of that and limiting how much time other teams can have the ball.
In my opinion, the slow down on the offensive side for OSU is due to lack of depth/experience on the OL and a new QB who isn't as consistent/accurate as the previous QBs (yet?). Both of those things can change next year.
Also lack of a transcendent RB.
Keeping the clock running after first downs (with the exception of the 1st and 2nd halves) has dramatically changed football and cut down on scoring.
My buckeyes need to get healthy and tread lightly with Wisconsin and Rutgers. Ryan day has an offensive mind. They have NFL players on offense, if we lose a game we can’t blame the defense.
He better get the offense rolling before Michigan.
Wisconsin and Rutgers are not going to come close to beating them. Wisconsin has struggled on offense worse than Ohio State and Rutgers is one of 10 Big 10 schools that is completely abysmal on offense. Wiscy and Rutgers will be lucky to score 3 points on them.
@@kyleb5169 and that’s why after an emotional win with Penn state we need to beware.
I'm gonna re-watch that psu game , I think were close on offense to popping 40 at will once Kyle finds a rhythm and can find one quickly. I think this line is improving . It felt like there were plenty of missed plays thats was more of Kyle's timing then PSUs defense. I i think we will have it in the next 2 games buttoned up enough to gets points resulting. Trying not to be bias but I see more signs of optimism than concern now. This game being the turning point
That offense has to improve if they want to beat Michigan .
@warriorking72 the thing is, we're missing so many key pieces on both sides of the ball and still dominated Penn state. The score is not an accurate picture of how badly we really did dismantle them. Just imagine how it looks when we get the last few pieces of offense put together. We're a championship caliber team and any one who says we're not isbeither blind or stupid. Can't change my mind after watching the Penn state game
If Ohio state’s offense hits that next level like we all expect they will they will win the national championship this year
No comment on Penn State play calling or recruiting?
Love these reactions. Thanks,
DEFENSE always wins Championships 🏆. Last year, after the Michigan loss, Jim K. should have implemented this years defensive schemes. If Kyle M. figures out how to SLOW the game down in his mind, no one will beat this team. Another National Championship will come this way to THE. Opportunities are very fleeting....all the pieces must fit together.
"Defense wins championships," I like it
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Buckeyes are a serious team because of that D. They’ll continue to get batter on offense. Their #2 WR out, #1 RB out
Franklin should have stayed in Nashville.
Penn State with even a functional offense wins this one.
Ohio State with their normal offensive production blows Penn State out..
Credit Penn State for limiting Ohio State's production.@@BB13131313
@@endcensorship874absolutely.. Penn State's defense is legit!
Couldn’t agree more with the idea that James Franklin is accurately rated most of the time. Do you think Penn State as a program is seriously asking the question if they’re content or willing to move on from Franklin?
They won't move on from him anytime soon. He just signed a 10 year 85 million dollar contract. He also regularly wins 10 games. If they were going to move on from him, they should have done it before giving him the monster contract.
Fair point. Thank you for that thought.
Or maybe it's the transfer portal.
I wouldn’t say the fan base is content. Living in PA, I hear a lot of people complain that he hasn’t gotten over the hump, but they are usually willing to acknowledge that he is better than most alternatives. I do remember a couple people hoping for Luke Fickell after the 2021 season started to go poorly. But 2022 was a success and this year has been too so far. I do think 2024 might be a make or break year for the fanbase with Allars second season and a lot of returning starters more than likely
@@kyleorndorff1304 Franklin just signed a 10 year extension. He definitely isn't going anywhere. The make or break year was 2021 and despite going 7-5 after a losing 2020 season, Penn State decided to give him a massive extension. That would have been the perfect time for a mutual exit and try another coach who could actually win big games every so often. Now you will have some success, but never get over the hump.
For PSU..there is always wrestling that can pick up the slack from all the others.
Well said JP!
When you have this big of a game/win how does the coaching staff handle recruits at the same time? The reports from recruits at The Shoe this weekend all mention time w key coaches, how??
Franklin is a very good coach and PSU is a very good team/program. His PSU win record is about 70-75% and that includes a couple down years.
For anybody at PSU that wants to upgrade their coach, take a lesson from Nebraska who got rid of Frank Solich and Bo Pelini because they couldn't get over the 9 win/season hump. These days, they are lucky to get 6 wins and go to a bowl.
Now if my Buckeyes sank down to average 9 win seasons (75%), the Buckeye Nation would revolt but these 2 are very different programs with different expectations.
Knowles paly calling is way way better this year.......no big plays. Not seeing all 11 on the line of scrimmage anymore
I think that having a year in the system helps a lot too. The linebackers and defensive backs are in much better positions this year. (esp the safeties) Having more reps and reading the offense in this system is paying off.
When we say he’s overrated, we’re not comparing him to future hall of fame coaches obviously, we are comparing him to the standard we should have nowadays in Happy Valley. Someone that can win the big game once ever 2 or 3 years at least and make a run
What standard are you talking about? Paterno won two championships in 45 years. He had a 75% winning percentage. Franklin has a 73% percentage while having to deal with coming off sanctions. He also has to deal with Meyer, Day and Harbaugh.
@@Al-Rudigor interesting point but a young Paterno was much better than elderly Paterno. For the last decade plus Paterno should have been retired. wondering how knocking off those mediocre or even losing seasons would impact the percentage. at the same time, Franklin should be given a pass for the first five years when he had to deal with scholarship restrictions he inherited.
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So James Franklin isn't overrated, he's just overmatched
It's time for james franklin to be held accountable for us always being mediocre. 10 million dollars a year should make us competitive for national Championships. Not just to make bowl games.
Penn State next year will be a top 5 squad
Sideways ( runs east-west plays) Day wins because of roster, not because of coaching...and I'm an Ohio State fan.
He can't call the same plays for Kyle that he called for CJ and Justin.. Kyle is still learning and developing..
All due respect to OSU D. PSU atrocious passing game matched against an elite D made for a poor performance from our Lions. I feel bad for PSU D who fought so hard to keep us in this game. Good luck to the Bucks. James Franklin will never break through, hire Manny!
Ohio state left at least 14 points on the table - they get it tightened up they're a scary team for all opponents.
That is a fact.
Not sure why but despite the offensive struggles I actually feel pretty confident with this team if the defense can continue to produce like that.
I assume what people mean when they say that Franklin is “overrated”, they mean that he’s overmatched.
It appears to me that Pennstate is 2 years behind in their game strategy and mentality. They do not change to keep up, but try and prepare every year to play and beat Ohio state from two years ago. They need to catch up, or they’ll be left behind permanently. The gap is only growing, not getting smaller.
It became a one possession game with like 30 seconds left
... and it was a one-possession game for like 80% of the game . . .
Yeah, this "Garbage Time TD" talk is insane, lmao. If the score was still more than a TD and a half after Penn St score, then yes. But a play was still possible to get ball back and then score with 2pt conversion. The fluffing up of this game is bizarre to say the least.
A lot of people act like Ohio States offense is as bad as Iowa’s lol. Ohio State ranks 14th in the nation in passing offense. Sure, it isn’t a top 5 offense like previous seasons, but it’s also far from a bad offense. Against Penn State, they were missing Treyvon Henderson who is their best running back and Emeka Egbuka their second best receiver, and still had 365 yards of offense vs a very good Penn State defense. They do need to drastically improve in the red zone, but overall, their offense is good enough when paired with that defense.
Franklin putting up Brian Kelly numbers
The Silver Bullets are officially back! Ohio State should've honestly won at least 31-6, Ohio State's M.O. has been to leave a lot of points on the field which needs to change, they struggle in the redzone.. the scoreboard makes it look closer than it was, but props to Penn State's defense, it's legit..
Our offense should’ve done better I agree with you and what the score should’ve been if we were playing our best on offense. Problem is I don’t think we can fix our running game/o line play
Back? They never left. They beat a better Penn State team last year and were a play away from winning the national title.
@@bosmith1820 The Silver Bullets is Ohio State's defense and they've been missing since 2019..
As a OSU fan psu problem is the talent depth. They can match anyones starters but after that its 🤷🏾♂️ and even the starters arent always elite. When u look at michigan even though they dont receuit better than osu, the thing the do very well at is having the depth to compete along with some elite players
I don’t know if they will win a natty with Day. They recruit well stay in the top tier of teams but it was that way when he got to osu. And he has kept the program really good but with the talent it just seems they won’t get over the hump.( National Championship) and have no excuse for not. He was handed a Ferrari, maintains it well, gets great replacement parts. But just can’t drive it right
As a Penn State fan I like Franklin. First off I have seen programs get rid of their 10-2 coach only to go to 5-7 with someone new.
Are we OSU yet? No… But lets be honest. OSU has got 4 more 5 star players every recruiting round. Until we close that gap i fear we will see the same result. Credit Michigan for changing the equation.
I think Josh’s point about James Franklin not being overrated is not good. Saying someone is not overrated just because they wasn’t favored to begin with is a safe way to absolve someone of criticism. Penn State is a blue blood that is suppose to beat Minnesota Indiana Purdue etc. but when it comes to hanging with Ohio State and Michigan they are suppose to do just that. Being 1-9 and 3-6 is unacceptable especially when they recruit on the same level as Michigan. Media wanted Jim Harbaugh fired because he couldn’t beat Ohio State and even docked his pay for it.
I truly appreciate your commentary, you should think about doing some motivational speaking. Successful people do show up on Monday, successful people typically are if you will more dangerous when things go sideways well said!
This game will always be James Franklin,s game to choke every year along as he is the coach at Penn state James Franklin will not open the play book enough to beat teams like Ohio State, if the AD can't figure the problem is James Franklin
Your logic re: being overrated is off the mark.
You’re not paid $10m/year to be the head coach ANYWHERE and lose to your two tough opponents every year. $10m/year is not a salary that says, “I’m just here to beat 10 weaklings, and then dump to the two powerhouses.”
$10m/year is: “You need to be 5-5 against the Big Dawgs.”
Let me tell you something: I’ll be happy to take over this program tomorrow by myself, and I’ll go out there and whip Northwestern for a lot less money.
Even missing a few of their top skill players, the Buckeyes cruised. Franklin really blew any hope with his 4th down attempt down one score from his own 43 with over 7 minutes left. Dumb, dumb decision. Failed attempt and Bucks virtually closed the game out with a TD going up two scores with 4 minutes to go.
Was there a O game plan? 🤷🏻♂️
I think the Franklin overrated argument is more valid when discussing if hes on the hot seat or not. Is he good enough to remain PSUs coach? I think thats the better debate than the debate of comparing him to Harbaugh / Day
Wisdom would be throwing the ball to Marv in the red zone. Throw it high. He is 6'4". How many CBs are even 6'2"?
Penn State won't get over the hump with Franklin against Day or Harbaugh in terms of recruiting or transfer portal unless he can figure out a way to get the better talent. I think most Nittany Lion fans would prefer someone who could get them over the hump sooner than later. Personally I don't think Franklin is it.
James Franklin Penn St=Brian Kelly ND.
Joke to everyone that's not a fan.
Maybe you should never be ranked top 10 if you can't win a game vs a top 10 team. But Josh loves James, so he is 1000% biased. Just admit your man crush and we can move on.
Marvin Harrison Jr on a team with an actually functional offense averages 200 yards/2 TD's a game. For real.
Harbaugh is 2-5 against The Ohio State University.
James Franklin is the new Mark Richt.
The stands at beaver stadium are full every game and they sell plenty of beer so the University is happy. The team is just good enough to fill the seats and get into a bowl game thats all they care about. When penn state gets crushed by Michigan, Franklin should be fired the next day.
McCord is not the player that Haskins, Fields or Stroud was, he’s a game manager. He’s inexperienced, but next year he’ll be a good qb
I didn't know Franklin has beaten Michigan 3 times. Wow! Michigan usually DESTROYS Penn state.
When I watched this game, I couldn’t tell if it was all good defense or bad offense by both teams
You were wrong again JOSH
I WANT TO SEE JESSIE
With two Top Ten wins on their resume how is it that OSU did not rise one inch in the rankings? Georgia has played nobody on its cupcake schedule and the same could be said for that school up north! I guess it really is "Ohio against the world" when it comes to college rankings!
Penn state hits like girls powderpuff and Franklin is always the joke of the big ten. If Penn state didn’t have such a good in state talent pool and recruits itself Franklin would be worse than Tucker was.
it's pretty amazing watching ESPN talk down Ohio St. weekly, while propping up FSU and Georgia. I get they haven't looked great, but having OSU at #6 in their power rankings after playing and beating TWO top 10 teams is a complete joke. i honestly believe they're worried for the SEC, and need to talk down top teams from other conferences... ? not sure.
as a Psu fan, i agree. 2 top 10 wins should put OSU definitely above michigan for sure and i could argue UGA but i could also argue that they’re the defending champs. and no one realizes that FSU would’ve lost to Duke if Leonard didn’t come out of the game. OSU>FSU
@@maydizzle1 HAH no cap that absolutely turned the tide of the FSU/Duke game
The third ranked team in the nation on their home field beat the seventh ranked team in a close game, how shocking. Seriously, that's how it's supposed to play out. Also that BS defensive holding call against Penn State that stripped them of a score changed the game. Within three seconds of the ball being snapped, Penn State's defense knocked it out of the Ohio State's QBs hand. So the hold was irrelevant, it did not affect the play at all. Also there's a hold on every play to be honest. Yes , Penn States offensive could have played better, in a tight close defensive game, but having seven points taking away is huge and swings the momentum the other way.
Vegas doesn’t overrate teams…
You move Allar of his spot, hes average to below qb!!!
If Allar had gone someplace that can develop a QB, he'd probably be a star by next year. All top-rated QBs regress under Franklin, the only reason why McSorley improved is because he had Moorhead
@@joelp5093and Ricky Rahne
Ohio State will trade you McCord for Allar. Allar with Ohio State's loaded WR room would dominate the sport.
@@kyleb5169 If you remember, OSU didn't want him and that's why he came to PSU.
Need to give Allar time to develop. We've been used to Sean Clifford with 6 years under his belt, this was Allar's 7th start and MY did nothing to help him get settled
I expect a rematch like last year's actual Natty was OSU-UGA, I'll be surprised if it doesn't come to the same this year. Based on contemporary top flight, supremely successful programs.
And also, Oscar Delp "ain't" no slouch. We don't absolutely require perhaps the best CFB Tight End ever, to win against all remaining opponents.
And Ladd seems to be 100% back in it, too.
Not to mention a commercial sized hangar full of winged WR's + 2 proven QB's able to serve them to stardom.
And the OL stout, deep, and well trained enough to give them time that makes everything ¡Go! offensively. A Line of monster Dudes that blow holes in DL walls big enough for studs to run through. And we have studs, that run through.
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biased? Of course. Doesn't have to mean lacking factual substance,
Is first comment still a thing?
It is now
I mean, Sometimes you just have to be happy with a win, no matter what... But if I were an OSU fan, I would be very concerned with how your team play against a Penn St team that looked about as explosive on offense as Iowa... And you only won by 8 pts!!!
Now penn st...My goodness, that was the worst playcalling on offense I have ever seen. I get you are undersized at WR...so why don't you dump it off to your 6'6" TE's and keep those Linebackers honest, then open up your run game.
That whole game was boring and painful to watch. The space between Michigan (the pride of the Big 10) and these two teams is larger than any other team and its conference.
So much for the "soft" BS that's been flying around. -- OSU was physical as hell. I noticed they carried off several PS players ? ---- BUCKEYES BEAT EM UP !!! ----
Last year - prior to the Georgia game - OSU was 8 -- 2 > '''''as an underdog since 2000 !''''' And ALMOST was 9 -- 2 ? - - - - - Fans often get emotional and it causes irrational thinking.
So you like when football players get injured, psychopath
You still cant run the ball your offense is soft😂😂
@@johnnyoldenjr.And your offense is playing Trash Valley State and Terrible Tech every week. 😂 shocking how arrogant yall can be while cheating and still not winning playoff games.
BS - they need better execution not soft - but when the D puts more in the box than they can block........@@johnnyoldenjr.
This was a bigger loss for PSU than win for Ohio. Way more about PSU lack of execution and poor play calling in key situations. Typical James Franklin fashion. Ohio was expected to win this game.
A James Franklin coached team cant get it done against elite competition
Offense will get better Play Hayden at RB screw that red shirt he has good vision and speed, Kyle plz set feet & hit wide open Wrs.. you left alot on the feild Defense is legit and Burke get healthy play true fresh j.matthews some more next few games .. Just win baby 🏆🌰🅾️💪
Penn State defense held up strong! But being in the field that long can wear any defense down, they had no help from their offense whatsoever
Penn State never took a shot over 25 yards down the field. Offensive Coordinator should be fired.
Not sure why Psu didn’t run the ball more after early success. Really just abandoned the game on the ground
I'd like to know, because I haven't watched either team all season, are both of these teams that awful at rushing or are both of their defenses just that stacked against it?
Defenses, OSU abandoned the run a bit too often & Henderson was out but overall it was just great defenses
Both teams have a lot of 1st and 2nd rounders on defense. Just one team had Marvin Harrison the other team didn’t.
Really good defenses on both sides especially Ohio State's secondary which has been pretty close to lock down. Allar is a good QB but he hasn't proven he can throw a deep ball as Franklin doesn't seem to want to let him.
OSUs offense has a total of 889 yards rushing on the entire season, averaging 3.8 yards per carry. Yes, they're awful at running the ball against mostly everyone. PSU has also been fairly anemic running the ball this season, with two RBs largely splitting carries and around 800 yards between the two of them...with a long rush of 20 yards. Their YPC is slightly higher than OSU but they haven't been explosive in any games this season.
Terrible game plan and play calling for PSU. RBs and the OL is the strength of the team but they got away from the running game too early and settled for trick plays. Bad game plan
I know a lot of ppl assume that it's easy sailing until The Game in Ann Arbor. Let me say this that is rat poison don't swallow it. Camp Randall at night with Luke fickell at the helm those games are slugfest. Greg Schiano's crazy ass who did coach at OSU has a bowl eligible team who will pull out all stops. The Game is the game, but please this wk do not swallow the cheese. Go Bucks‼️
Penn State will beat Michigan, and Michigan will beat Ohio State
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Michigan will DESTROY PSU...Allar is horrible
They are who we thought they were, same soft team, with a worse offense than they had last year. They win because they Marvin and Allan is NOT who PSU thought they were. They have no passing game. And neither team has an elite running game. UM is a team with the defense of these two teams with a running game and an elite QB.
With Penn everything feels like Japanese to me 🫡
Penn State had no offense, the defense was amazing though
Intentionally looking like Iowa more and more every week my mistake use the wrong weak.
I am so sick of being a Penn State fan. The issue is there is no joy. The whole fanbase boils the entire year, 365 days to 2 days which are disappointing year in year out. We don't even get to enjoy beating everyone else. Beat Maryland who cares you were supposed too. Smoke Iowa at home, congrats nobody cares. I will not allow myself to believe for that Michigan game. Can't do it, can't get hurt if you know you lost before kickoff
Playing Michigan at home is going to be a lot different than OSU in the toilet bowl. I think a three-way tie is very likely this year
@@bitorange5549 I give us a less than 1% chance of beating Michigan
osu defense was that good and they didn’t have there #1 corner
I think this loss for Penn state is what pisses them off to kick Michigan’s ass
Ok then if overrated isn't the right word then he's just not good enough to get past Michigan and Ohio State and as a result Penn State shouldn't be treated like a top 10 team so long as he is their coach.
Point spreads in those 18 games not favored in wasn't listed. Still to say he can't win one of 18 he is an underdog makes him overrated.
And no one is surprised
Penn state 0-9 against top ten teams, keep playing cupcake teams to make the record look good
This game was so much more close to be blown open then i think any of us realize. Kyle McCord had a stretch of inaccurate balls that if were just a little better placed or timed would have extended drives .The defense looks cemented. As the o line continues to mesh and if Kyle gets a rhythm. I think we can start hitting 40 a game. It's in the game plan, there for the taking. It feels like its in reach. We will see.
Yep, Day once again showing why he is elite and Franklin is not.
Let’s not forget the dropped balls and some bad play or predictable play calls also. This game was more dominant than the score showed. Literally one or two plays on every drive from scoring. Also a missed field goal and a last ditch effort TD is the only reason it wasn’t a double digit win.
If Stroud was Qb Penn state would have gotten blown out big difference in qbs
If you argue this, you need to acknowledge the fact that Drew Allar had an awful game. He was clearly out of his element and missed a lot of throws that could have changed the momentum of the game
just think if fruitcake Ewers hadn't been a coward and left, OSU would probably be nearly unstoppable