@@blackbutmild1 05 don't really know hp gains but seat gains I can tell a hell of a difference.. He has a video on a 04 750.. Also got a Sprint Air filter from Brocks..
Damn Kawi, Broks& Chris they made this guy stupid fast!! He doesn't need no Moore hp...lol. Nice bike. Kawi feeding there bikes steroids. Low key trying to stomp out the competition
@@bigdawgracing7858 doesn't it get old having to keep reminding people of that year after year. Lol. Its like with all the content online whether google or youtube youd think anybody into cars or bikes would know this and not think that there vehicles power compares to one 3000 miles away.
@@bigdawgracing7858 boy are you right about that !, that’s the beauty of it, many have set the dyno to give false info, for the clients to be happy , because some dyno are so false that they will tell you your 600cc makes same horsepower’s as the 14, but when you don’t know anything about motorcycles and it’s your first bike kinda things, but I have 35 years of experiences on sport bikes only, and I just sold my baby for medical reasons, but I had 23 bikes in my life, and the tunned was done, by Turcotte Performance, a very we’ll known place for performance in Quebec, and belive me even with me almost sitting on the gas tank at 280 lbs, as soon as I twist the throttle a little the front wheel was always looking for the sky, about as easy as any GSXR, R1, ZX-10, or any others race bikes, and it was my 3rd ZX-14, the number the dyno had give me was true,
Just thinking all dyno machines take numbers differently but what important is the horse power gians and torque, those numbers is what to look all for. From 189 hp to 211 on MR12 thats a massive 22 hp gain, now thats in a static run, when the ram air takes in its affect the horse power gain will be more. On fuel pump to MR12 running ram air one be looking at 215 close to it. Hope this finds all well
2021? Is the dash still the same as the one in this video or does it have a TFT-screen just like the zx10? I really think its a pitty that this bike gets discontinued. I'd like to buy a 14 but with the technology (and aerodynamics if that can be improved as the zx10 does have improved aerodynamics) of the zx10. As I'm going for a Carbon fiber bodywork anyway, that will probably be no problem. Only I wonder what extra features the zx10 has wich the 14 doesn't that is more difficult to add later on. Like wiring the heated grips for example. Could you share your thoughts on this?
@@soumynonareverse7807 2021 zx14 is the exact same as this 2019. They have been making the same bike since 2012. No it does not have all the tech that the new 1000s have but it is also cheaper than the new 1000s. I have a 2019 and I would not go back the the 1000s simply from a comfort standpoint. My bike has full brocks and a flash and feels like a monster despite the weight. I like being able to ride comfortably a lot longer unlike the 1000s that are race bikes and make you sore after a short period. My gf also loves riding the zx14 way more as well. Best bike I have ever owned.
@@mentalwarfare66 are there any aftermarket replacement displays/speedometers that also have a radio in them and can connect to both your GPS and intercom?
How does the bike deal with the extra heat generated.? My gen 1 with a full blocks exhaust was horrible unless running 90 plus on open highway. If just riding around it would get really hot.
Sorry but the ratio equivalent for weights to HP is not as you say , the ratio is very neat of 10 lbs for 1 HP, so 40 lbs of weights less, is like you have a 4 HP gained, but if you have 2 bikes same weight and 2 equally riders the one with the 4 HP advantage will go away maybe not as fast as you would wish but it will anyway 😂😂👍
@@claudebaron9525 Suppose a bike weighs 550 pounds, and the rider geared up weighs 200 pounds, that is 750 pounds total. Let's suppose the bike has 150 rear wheel peak horsepower. These numbers are not from any specific bike, but rather are a good reference point. You can adjust the numbers for your own bike. So the power to weight ratio is 1 peak HP for every 5 pounds. This means that if someone else had an identical bike (550 pounds), but was 40 pounds lighter (160 lbs vs 200 lbs.), then that bike has an effective 8HP (approx) advantage (since 40 pounds are "missing") and there are 8 HP with "nothing now to push", so they push the remaining 710 pounds instead. However the advantage is even better than that, because of better braking, better handling.... So the new power to weight ratio would be 710 / 150 = 4.733 pounds per HP, which is (150 / 710) = 0.2112 HP per pound, so for a heavier bike to have the same power to weight ratio (let's say back to 750 pounds), then it would need 750 * 0.2112 HP = 158.45 rear wheel HP.
I had Ryan Schnitz do my 2018 the same way, awesome video!! Nice to be able to not have to screw with wiring extra components I really do wish you guys could figure out like don ghoul Be able to turn the traction control off and it stays off
Schnitz and Chris Moore will never take the time to figure that out. They are only using what the ECU software allows them to do. If that option isnt offered in the software then youll never get it. Don Guhl is actually a software engineer and hacker whose able to find things in the ecu that goes beyond what the average tuners software can do and thats what sets him apart. Ryan and Chris dont hack and reverse engineer the Ecu like Don can.
It's possible to retain the last used ktrac settings during a power cycle on Kawasaki. The person performing the flash should make you aware of your options prior to flashing. From what I can tell most people who offer flashing services do this by default, as it can be used to determine whether the ecu has actually been modified.
Great work Chris! have the same year same bike. I’ll be sending my ECU to you in the late fall. I really like the CT full Brock’s titanium exhaust. When you say this exhaust isn’t as loud as the Alien Head, how much are we talking? I’m leaving towards the full Brock’s CT full titanium. Thanks Chris and great work with the ZX14R!
What restrictions are within the new zx14r's ecu that you have removed with your flash? What octane of pump gas are you using? Does it still have the factory air filter installed? J
Brocks Davidson says you can make por power w 89 octane … I am dyno tuning mine tomorrow here in south Florida w 89 octane , sprint race filter , can’t wait to see results
Nice power. Chris i have a 2018zx14r with the brocks flash and penta carbon full exhaust. I kno brock flash made crazy power with the zx14r, but do u get more out the bike with your flash or is it basically the same or close? Let me kno
@@hyperlink3113 what do u mean about a canned tune? I seen the video where Brock and Don test and dyno tune the 14r. I also put a dynojet autotuner with the PC5 to make small adjust to brocks map for the different climates we stay in.
@@wudntulike2no32 I have a POD-300 from dynojet with the wideband 02 sensor in the exhaust. I can see my AFR as I ride. Without the autotuner on my AFR is 12.5 to 13 with brocks map. But since he is in Ohio and I'm in Alabama, I autotune idle and only the RPM and TP range I ride in and it is set at 13.5 at cruising and 13.2 everywhere else. When I'm at full throttle 8500rpm and up I go 12.8
Max Torq on 1441 is about 7,600rpm so it wouldn't hurt if you lower your power-rich A/F target rpm... You can also go richer than 13.5 below 100% TPS (anything above 20%, 6,000 rpm)...
211 HP and the rings are not seated yet. Check 05:11 into video blue smoke. The pipe looks great it’s good to know it lost 40lbs!! I watch your races and I did not like the way things went after you beat Richard Gadson. Taking $5000.00 was wrong!
It's just a NUMBER..as long as you feel it under your arse is all that matters....MR12 on a well tuned large bore like a Busa ZX14 is easily good for double digit HP increase ..nearly equal to the HP increase you'd get out of a cam upgrade...amazing ..don't even open the engine and you get 8-10 hp....
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I just ride my 1997 ZX-11 that I paid about $2K for. Good enough. I don't race. I "geared" (sprocketed) mine up for highway with an 18 tooth front. Tachs around 3K at indicated 60 MPH. Good power to $ ratio.
Thanks to the Moore Mafia magic my 2012 Grom makes shy of 200 hp!
Yeah, about 190hp "shy".
@@davidjames1684 190 ain’t bad. Equivalent To my lowered and tuned Vespa
Man thanks for the flash. It woke my 750 up omg 😲..
I've got an '02 gsxr 750 that I'd like to have him tune. What year is yours and how much of a gain did you get?
@@blackbutmild1 05 don't really know hp gains but seat gains I can tell a hell of a difference.. He has a video on a 04 750.. Also got a Sprint Air filter from Brocks..
How do you get ahold of him? Email ect???
@al Loring
@@bears893 Mooremafia.com. pay then send your ecu off. I was a little bit on the like no at first but after that first ride Sunday yep do it.
@@alloring9928 Do u get the Dyno paperwork graphs back?
Thats a great looking zed-x 14R, i bet the owner is thrilled with that bike 👍
Yes I am
ZEEE not Zed for the love of fuck
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 probably European cause they say zed instead of zee. In usa, there's only one person that also say zed. 650ib
CM$ That seems Ballz !
My 2015 ZX14r went 213,5 on pump gas..
Nice number! With stock headers?
Different Dyno different numbers
Damn Kawi, Broks& Chris they made this guy stupid fast!! He doesn't need no Moore hp...lol. Nice bike. Kawi feeding there bikes steroids. Low key trying to stomp out the competition
My 2013 with a full yosh and a reflash, also a bazzaz , it did 210 and 126 lbs of torques, on pump gas
not all dynos read the same.... its all about making gains and improving numbers on that dyno some are alot happier than others lol
@@bigdawgracing7858 doesn't it get old having to keep reminding people of that year after year. Lol. Its like with all the content online whether google or youtube youd think anybody into cars or bikes would know this and not think that there vehicles power compares to one 3000 miles away.
You can make big power on a dyno but if its not tuned right you'll get left behind by a bike that makes "less" power
@@nwga706 facts
@@bigdawgracing7858 boy are you right about that !, that’s the beauty of it, many have set the dyno to give false info, for the clients to be happy , because some dyno are so false that they will tell you your 600cc makes same horsepower’s as the 14, but when you don’t know anything about motorcycles and it’s your first bike kinda things, but I have 35 years of experiences on sport bikes only, and I just sold my baby for medical reasons, but I had 23 bikes in my life, and the tunned was done, by Turcotte Performance, a very we’ll known place for performance in Quebec, and belive me even with me almost sitting on the gas tank at 280 lbs, as soon as I twist the throttle a little the front wheel was always looking for the sky, about as easy as any GSXR, R1, ZX-10, or any others race bikes, and it was my 3rd ZX-14, the number the dyno had give me was true,
Just thinking all dyno machines take numbers differently but what important is the horse power gians and torque, those numbers is what to look all for.
From 189 hp to 211 on MR12 thats a massive 22 hp gain, now thats in a static run, when the ram air takes in its affect the horse power gain will be more.
On fuel pump to MR12 running ram air one be looking at 215 close to it.
Hope this finds all well
Moore mafia do you think these tunes would work up in the mountains of Colorado?
i will be sending my ecu to you soon !!!
I have a 2021 Zx14r Id like to have you flash eventually
2021? Is the dash still the same as the one in this video or does it have a TFT-screen just like the zx10?
I really think its a pitty that this bike gets discontinued.
I'd like to buy a 14 but with the technology (and aerodynamics if that can be improved as the zx10 does have improved aerodynamics) of the zx10. As I'm going for a Carbon fiber bodywork anyway, that will probably be no problem. Only I wonder what extra features the zx10 has wich the 14 doesn't that is more difficult to add later on. Like wiring the heated grips for example.
Could you share your thoughts on this?
@@soumynonareverse7807 2021 zx14 is the exact same as this 2019. They have been making the same bike since 2012. No it does not have all the tech that the new 1000s have but it is also cheaper than the new 1000s. I have a 2019 and I would not go back the the 1000s simply from a comfort standpoint. My bike has full brocks and a flash and feels like a monster despite the weight. I like being able to ride comfortably a lot longer unlike the 1000s that are race bikes and make you sore after a short period. My gf also loves riding the zx14 way more as well. Best bike I have ever owned.
@@soumynonareverse7807 Same exact bike as my 2017
@@mentalwarfare66 are there any aftermarket replacement displays/speedometers that also have a radio in them and can connect to both your GPS and intercom?
@@soumynonareverse7807 not that i know of
Good performance
want to get my 08 dino by you only have voodu exaust it runs hot
Put this 14 against Chris ridin the H2 & Country on the 1000 & watch Chris & Country get Smacked around
😂
Man just from watching your videos is wanting me to get back in the saddle again after 4 yrs👍
Do it
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS definitely thinking about it.
Do you tune harleys?
Idk if you said it or not but dose this bike also have a sprint air filter or some kinda filter
Crazy hp and torque But will it out run a 1000cc almost 200lb liter ?
I got no problems with 1k's he flashed my 2020
@@larryjonesboro4478 you have the 2020 zx14 ?
no they cant outrun the litre sports bike bc they v quick n light
@@larryjonesboro4478 where are you located ?
Tennessee
Nice sound
How would a stock hyperbike hold up with a 50 shot?
Will you break in a new bike on the dyno???
Is mr12 good with nitrous?
So when are you gonna race the rocket cycle that running 5.5?
How does the bike deal with the extra heat generated.? My gen 1 with a full blocks exhaust was horrible unless running 90 plus on open highway. If just riding around it would get really hot.
Hi. Can you flash a European ZX14 2010 model?
Hey Chris
You get your money back
Or was that the cost to put the crooks outta biz ?
Can't wait to see you in Antigua 💯
Are you able to flash ECU of the H2R ?
Real beast 😮😮
Chris, not considering the extra weight, wich one would you choose? Zx10 or 14 2021?
My exact bike! Mine is stock and I want some work done!
Love the tune.
The bike just pulls with no end.
Made my 1st 9000 rpm shift.
Is this the regular ct or the quiet core? Looking for my bike! Great looking machine!
40 lbs., that's another 10 hp.
Another effective 10 hp equivalent (but for most people, even better cuz it also helps braking, cornering, walking the bike...)
Sorry but the ratio equivalent for weights to HP is not as you say , the ratio is very neat of 10 lbs for 1 HP, so 40 lbs of weights less, is like you have a 4 HP gained, but if you have 2 bikes same weight and 2 equally riders the one with the 4 HP advantage will go away maybe not as fast as you would wish but it will anyway 😂😂👍
@@claudebaron9525 Suppose a bike weighs 550 pounds, and the rider geared up weighs 200 pounds, that is 750 pounds total. Let's suppose the bike has 150 rear wheel peak horsepower. These numbers are not from any specific bike, but rather are a good reference point. You can adjust the numbers for your own bike. So the power to weight ratio is 1 peak HP for every 5 pounds. This means that if someone else had an identical bike (550 pounds), but was 40 pounds lighter (160 lbs vs 200 lbs.), then that bike has an effective 8HP (approx) advantage (since 40 pounds are "missing") and there are 8 HP with "nothing now to push", so they push the remaining 710 pounds instead. However the advantage is even better than that, because of better braking, better handling.... So the new power to weight ratio would be 710 / 150 = 4.733 pounds per HP, which is (150 / 710) = 0.2112 HP per pound, so for a heavier bike to have the same power to weight ratio (let's say back to 750 pounds), then it would need 750 * 0.2112 HP = 158.45 rear wheel HP.
@@davidjames1684 I like your analysis brother. 👌
@@redline350zHR Thanks. I "cleaned" it up some.
You are the beast man , new to the channel 🔥🔥
Good numbers you didn’t mention but I’m thinking it probably has a sprint filter also.The pipe sounds great.👍🏍
That's correct/ Sprint P08 F1-85
Great vid!!!
I had Ryan Schnitz do my 2018 the same way,
awesome video!!
Nice to be able to not have to screw with wiring extra components
I really do wish you guys could figure out like don ghoul
Be able to turn the traction control off and it stays off
Schnitz and Chris Moore will never take the time to figure that out. They are only using what the ECU software allows them to do. If that option isnt offered in the software then youll never get it. Don Guhl is actually a software engineer and hacker whose able to find things in the ecu that goes beyond what the average tuners software can do and thats what sets him apart. Ryan and Chris dont hack and reverse engineer the Ecu like Don can.
It's possible to retain the last used ktrac settings during a power cycle on Kawasaki. The person performing the flash should make you aware of your options prior to flashing. From what I can tell most people who offer flashing services do this by default, as it can be used to determine whether the ecu has actually been modified.
man, if only I could get my 2014 ZX14R to America where you're at, I'm assuming Maryland?
He’s in South Carolina.
Like to be able to see my ignition maps and STV maps on my Suzuki. How does the MR12 compare to pump gas as far as rich lean adjustments?
Great work Chris! have the same year same bike. I’ll be sending my ECU to you in the late fall. I really like the CT full Brock’s titanium exhaust. When you say this exhaust isn’t as loud as the Alien Head, how much are we talking? I’m leaving towards the full Brock’s CT full titanium. Thanks Chris and great work with the ZX14R!
Correction: I’m learning towards the Brock’s CT full titanium. If it looks like it sounds, I’m sold!
Leaning!
Per UPS, you should have my ecu tomorrow 😂😂😂. Can’t wait
Less than 1k subs to make 50k. Chris you doing hella job. Thanks for the education
How much Torque does a zx10 make?
80ish
Happy new year brother.Can you please tell me if it's possible to flash a 2012 Z1000 SX ecu?
What restrictions are within the new zx14r's ecu that you have removed with your flash?
What octane of pump gas are you using?
Does it still have the factory air filter installed?
J
Great questions there. Would be nice if Chris could shed a light on those.
93 pump gas with sprint air filter; p08 f1-85. MR12 oxygenated fuel is 93 octane.
Mr12 octane is 87
Brocks Davidson says you can make por power w 89 octane … I am dyno tuning mine tomorrow here in south Florida w 89 octane , sprint race filter , can’t wait to see results
@@diego9040
Are you going to try a dyno pull using premium 91 or more before using the 89? (It would be interesting to see back to back results).
J
Nice power. Chris i have a 2018zx14r with the brocks flash and penta carbon full exhaust. I kno brock flash made crazy power with the zx14r, but do u get more out the bike with your flash or is it basically the same or close? Let me kno
Was the Brocks tune, a canned tune? If so, yes a dyno tune will make more power and smoother throttle response.
@@hyperlink3113 what do u mean about a canned tune? I seen the video where Brock and Don test and dyno tune the 14r. I also put a dynojet autotuner with the PC5 to make small adjust to brocks map for the different climates we stay in.
@@wudntulike2no32 I have a POD-300 from dynojet with the wideband 02 sensor in the exhaust. I can see my AFR as I ride. Without the autotuner on my AFR is 12.5 to 13 with brocks map. But since he is in Ohio and I'm in Alabama, I autotune idle and only the RPM and TP range I ride in and it is set at 13.5 at cruising and 13.2 everywhere else. When I'm at full throttle 8500rpm and up I go 12.8
@@hyperlink3113 Chris said "Mail it in" so that will obviously be a canned Flash (for whatever altitude and air where/when it was originally tuned)...
Max Torq on 1441 is about 7,600rpm so it wouldn't hurt if you lower your power-rich A/F target rpm...
You can also go richer than 13.5 below 100% TPS (anything above 20%, 6,000 rpm)...
I know u may not get to my comment but can u do a 2012 hayabusa that way by changing the modes???
Yes u can. The A.B.C mode can each have a different fuel.
@@neurocentricthoughtz1583 thanks for the info looks like I need to be making a trip to Chris shop
I prefer my oem header decat and polish with alienhead 16
Yes sir!!!!!!!!
That sound similar to my yoshi full exhaust! Buy I have an 07
I saw in Antigua
211 HP and the rings are not seated yet. Check 05:11 into video blue smoke.
The pipe looks great it’s good to know it lost 40lbs!!
I watch your races and I did not like the way things went after you beat Richard Gadson.
Taking $5000.00 was wrong!
My 2012 made 201 @ 116 ft. with a Hindle pipe 👍
It's just a NUMBER..as long as you feel it under your arse is all that matters....MR12 on a well tuned large bore like a Busa ZX14 is easily good for double digit HP increase ..nearly equal to the HP increase you'd get out of a cam upgrade...amazing ..don't even open the engine and you get 8-10 hp....
@@carlmayer691 True, but stock was 192 so I'm pretty happy with that increase on 87 octane with only pipe and a flash.
"extremely lightweight exhaust", meanwhile the rest of the bike is a tank.
😂😂
But that 40 lbs will definitely knock over a tenth off... Plus the extra power, it'll make a HUGE difference.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I just ride my 1997 ZX-11 that I paid about $2K for. Good enough. I don't race. I "geared" (sprocketed) mine up for highway with an 18 tooth front. Tachs around 3K at indicated 60 MPH. Good power to $ ratio.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS But do you realize that with a 190 pound rider and a 110 pound "chick" on the back, that is about 900 pounds of rolling mass?
Shit loads more torque
it’ll run hi eight second 1/4
And
ride comfortably for hours
Had to comment to make it an even 200! Yea
Last time I was this early, I came too fast!
Only downside to the new brocks titanium is the look , looks like a stock muffler if you're paying that kind of money i want it to stand out
The ZX14R is a fantastic bike all round Kawasaki are making a big mistake not selling it in Europe any more
Its probably an old dinosaur, just like the Hayabusa.
We don't get a lot of Euro stuff either...Euro spec bikes are usually good for another 6-8 hp depending....
Well said
Watching from Antigua #268
WAAAZZUUPP Moore Mafia
Someone use a zx12r
I wouldn't trust my ZX-14R (if I had one) to this guy. He seems kinda rough on bikes. The dyno also seems to be rough on tires too.
Tf you talking about? He's a pro.. and the Dyno is hard on tires? Whatttt
First here let’s go
Happy new year brother.Can you please tell me if it's possible to flash a 2012 Z1000 SX ecu?