Their claim of "muh pwisonz dey be pickin on us an lockin us up so we be makin license plates!!!" is nothing but another 🥷🏿 fiction to make excuses for a group who destroy every city they live in, in every country, without exception.
Dood already had the murder and dismemberment planned out before and during the podcast. Thought he could pull a David Blaine and failed. Best to leave the magic to real magicians, bitch.
@@TheMutor I wouldn't say he is left wing, but his opinions on Crime, the causes of crime, and the proper punishments of crime, are entirely from a soft decadent western liberal view.
@@cellardoor9360 Lol so explain your right wing view of crime. “Some ppl are just naturally bad and we should just punish ppl without examining the political and economic causes” 🤣yea man y’all POV is not that much more sophisticated
You have to imagine how many of those people are turned into monsters in prison though. A lot of people just make a stupid mistake, then prison messes you up.
@@jessesocean5965 The victim didn't go on the biggest podcast on the planet, spouting how the justice system failed him. Only to get out and immediately kill someone. You, sir, may have missed the point.
@@LtGregoryStevensyou're not thinking it through. The way he went about the murder in 2024 is because his mind state on how to carry out a murder is stuck in the 90s, hence why he got caught so quickly whereas that would not have been the case if it took place in 1996
@@karljonson3287 he's so cringe to me. hides under the guise of high morality but has clear over-the-top sadistic urges for people who do bad things. i am far from perfect and capable of sadism myself, but i can't stand people like that. type of guy who would be an abusive cop.
People get so committed to their cause that they stop caring what the truth even is. Someone like Josh is so obsessed with his own cause that he's blinded to the fact that some criminals are actually not great people.
I'm not sure what you are getting at. Of course he was sold, otherwise he wouldn't have invited him on the podcast. It isn't like Joe is the one that released him. Is it really a weakness to believe someone that says they are trying to better themselves?
This kinda proves Joe gaslight his viewers. He can't admit that he invited a legit murderer so that project itself could be shady and need more scrutiny
Why? I'm assuming you don't think it's dumb to want to free innocent people from prison, so do they just have a really low success rate and are heavily funded or something
they did one bad thing and now they're a joke all of sudden? Do you have any idea how many hundreds of innocent people they have freed (a lot of them on death row)?
Def lost some respect for joe on this he completely downplayed the absolute severe insanity of this dudes crime and tried to make up a bunch of crazy excuses
Goes to show that someone can't be judged solely on how they present themselves publicly. God knows what he's like when he flips the switch behind closed doors.
Yeah, prison is so bad and unfair. So what? Should we stop putting people in prison? Crazy idea here: what about not committing crimes? Then you will not go to a bad and unfair place
Lol yeah fucked up and put a murderer on here. Then blamed the prison system. I love you but come on joe. You fucked up. The dude was bad. Also I live here in ID ( Californians please stay away you already ruined our state) but the judges here got in trouble for sending people to prisons they had a part ownership of 😂 they ended up just moving the shares to spouses or something. Dirty system all around
That dude Joe was talking about with the innocence project. Total clown shadeball. He’s so full of it. He said verbatim “mothers would never kill their own child.” For someone who is apparently an “expert” how does he not know it happens all the time?
@@redfurydubstep I don't care about miserable people. I'm an adult and I'm sorry they were never first picked for the kickball team or whatever. Being honest isn't a crime.
I go back and forth on this issue. The alleged human being who unalived my grandparents on the side of a road in OR was let out before reaching the light end of his sentence by the dubious wisdom of the PR parole board. This despite never apolovizing and in fact blaming my grandparents for the crime he committed against them (if they had just dome what I told them to do...). He's now living in his sons gagrage less than 5 miles from my mothers house. He should have stayed in forever. There was never any question about his guilt. But I don't want people being sent to jail for crimes they didn't commit.
If you think this your brain needs more growing only small minded individual believe this there are violent people in every group of people on this earth. People are one group of organisms just because some look different does not mean they are inherently different we are all capable of good and evil
"Some dude owed him money, some drug money and he found the guy and robbed him" Don't downplay his priors. The guy was a gang leader and a drug dealer who tracked down, hurt and robbed others over drug money. Not to mention pointing guns in the process.
You don’t get 50 years for one incident. He was a habitual offender. You may find your loved ones at the hands of these people, that you think go to Jail for “ bullshit” . Karma may find you.
The guy that brought Sheldon into the podcast might want to start doing his homework. He probably got 50 years based on his previous behavior/crimes as well
mr Rogan you speak as if majority of people in prison are there for Frivolous reasons. you also speak as iif there for one time offences. at the MOST there are 5% of the prison population is innocent but thats also from a group who with 100% claiming they are innocent. sure there are a SMALL portion of people in prisons for minor shit but the VAST majority are people who have consistently re offended. example is a person who claims to be in prison for a long sentence for just drugs. has 20 other convictions gets caught with a small amount of drugs while ROBBING someone but the plea was reduced to just the drug possession whilst dropping the robbery charge. this happensd ALOT in the prison system because 98 percent of ALL crimes are pleas that result in a reduction of certain offences for a quick conviction as to keeop the justice system less burdened that usual. sure there are plenty of issues to address about our justice system. but we as a society eed to quit acting as if the large portion of these CRIMINALS are innocent or a victim of circumstance. thats simply untrue. the vast majority of these people are criminals ho have mny many manty crimes under their names and thats many many many victims that these monsters commit onyto inniocent people. where is the sympoathy for those who have been victimized by these assholes. just because a bklack people porpotionally have more poeople in prison doesnt mean our society is racist it means that a disporpotion amount of black people are committing crimes and istead of blaming everything but the real issues causing this dispairity of more blacks in prison we are allowing for this to continue.
Joe rogans response to the insanity that is Sheldon Johnson’s nefarious post-release activities is impressively measured and rational. After standing up for a dude who proved himself totally unworthy one might’ve expected Rogan’s pendulum to swing equally in the opposite direction. But Rogan impresses again with his highly logical reaction- Instead of blaming the entire system and condemning everyone who gets a second chance, rather he understands the complexity of the issue and sees it from all angles. He still recognizes that the original sentence was probably disproportionate. He gets that prison can actually make a person much worse than they were before. He gets the nuance and complexity of figuring out which people are worthy of a second chance and which are not, and most importantly he gets that even though you may get it wrong sometimes, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the whole idea was a bad one. This is the Joe Rogan I remember from back in the day.
My whole life was ruined in Pennsylvania. I received a DUI for THC in my blood even though I was 100% sober, had a state issued medical card and had not used my medication in a week. I used to be a technician for BMW and I lost all of that because some cop wanted to hit quota and get a bonus that month. It’s policing for profit!
Jails MAKE MONEY TOO. I was a jailer/guard. Theres 3 tier's, County Inmate, State Inmate & Federal Inmate. Jails can house ALL 3 TIERS. Each tier pays different acceding. The jail can only house a certain % of State & Federal Inmates and they prefer Federal Inmates that are paper crimes ie money laundering, tax evasion etc... And now most jails use off premise companies for video visitation and e fund commissary meaning a separate private company charges you $5 automatically to put $50 on an inmates commissary funds, then turns around and charges the inmate $5 to buy a single can of Coke or $4 for 20 sheets of paper. The jail gets commission on all sales. Even a commission on video visitation and pay per minute phone calls and email communication.
This incident really made me have to question The Innocence Project; this dude's history wasn't a secret, he didn't "get the book thrown at him", he was a major player in gangs in the area, there's a LOT of background that went into his prison sentence - that The Innocence Project guys downplayed HEAVILY. It's egregious enough that they couldn't have been "fooled" or whatever, they had to deliberately soften the story. Now this dude isn't exactly representative of everyone they've worked with obviously, as far as I can tell the vast majority of people they've gotten off have been totally legit(as far as I can tell...). But I don't understand how the people supporting legitimately innocent convicts can also straight up smooth over the past of a dude this vile.
This system your speaking about is so big and scary. I mean government controlled as well so i dont ever think there will be a time that anyone sheds lifht or betters the prison and jails in america. Im not saying it has to be daycare but i know what ive seen with my own eyes.
My neighbor’s son did 20years in prison. He got released mid 2023. Story he says was at a party and his buddies went outside and came back rushing saying they got to go and they had some girl in the passenger seat and someone blasted her mouth and cops came to the truck and neighbor’s story was he has no idea what was going on so he was in the bed of the truck where the cops found him and another person. He claims he had nothing to do with it but he’s out now and already has a stolen car under his belt and he lives with his parents and they got him a used good condition Honda and he ruined that. Not so sure about him
Josh Dubin outright says he knew Sheldon was guilty unlike his previous guests, right after calling Sheldon his friend & his brother...... Why was Sheldon released at all?
i'm not sure how they can say it in a jokey sort of way. the other guy was a human being just like them. he had family. he was a real person who suffered an horrific end. there should be zero laughs. imagine it was one of joe's children and i was a podcast host and talked about the death of his kid in such a light hearted jokey way. joe would track me down.
Chivarella was the judge. I was in high school in the area where this was happening. A lot of kids got a lot of money back for being put away for the pettiest crimes.
1:33 so charged before this even happened. Drug dealer, pistol whipped a guy which can be attempted murder by the way. Yeah 50 years seems damn accurate.
Joe talks about private prisons being messed up because they make money off of having prisoners, but doesn't stop to think that's how it works with the government funded prisons as well.
I grew up in Wilkes barre. Did 6months in total for weed. Those judges are all. The. Same. I owe 13k$ to the state. Some the things theyre charging me for is sitting in a chair. Touching a pencil. Shit like that. And i dont know if it was on purpose or not but i asked for fiber capsules and they gave me antidepressants for old people. and a super vitamin. Threw up for weeks. Law firms wont do anything. Sick. Sick world... i feel as though now, the only job i am able to have here, is McDonald's. Or a tj maxx. Walmart.
Why does Rogan has this goofy Indian on ??? He should have legendary warriors on with cool life stories like Dominiquie Vandenberg the soldier of fortune who was a legend in the French foreign legion 2 Rep
Disconnected from what? Whenever anyone else behaves a certain way history is an acceptable explanation, only with us it’s “genetics”. The fact that black men in Africa have different tendencies would prove genetics to not be the answer. You’re probably one of those ppl who believes black ppl are “privileged” and white ppl are “under attack” I’m guessing, right?
He's not disconnected, he's explaining the broken system that also incarates other men of racial backgrounds living in red lined communities with poor policing. You bring no explanation just hidden bigotry.
@@skullbatter most conservatives would rather believe black people are inferior, and that the US power structure has played no role in the community’s problems. Don’t be surprised
I dunno about the American system, but I can tell you that the Canadian system has zero rehabilitation. You go in to network and learn how to do crime better or commit other crimes.
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The judge called him a menace to society. He proved the judge right.
What a dull comment.
Bro, they downplayed his prior conviction and actions so fucking hard. Don’t give the dude any credit.
he told them what sheldon told Joe, he didnt know the full extent
He shot one of those people after he got out. He didn't pistol whip him
@@poopychimp346 "It's not joes fault that he never does any research and just let's people sell their bs"
@@hioxd Why trust anything Sheldon says at this point lol
@@christopherstein2024 lmfao, you've gotta be kidding me. It's a podcast.
Besides the body parts in his freezer and multiple other crimes, Sheldon is a good dude.
Okay this gave me a good chuckle 🤣🤣
Lol
He robbed my friend and allowed him to keep his ID, super nice guy.
Great guy never meddum.
Lmfao
He didn’t tell the story right …. The guy kidnapped and robbed and beat someone and was let out early
I came here for the comments…
We know, Joe literally just said that.
@@anonnymous31 he literally didn’t … he said he got pistol whipped and act like it wasn’t a big deal …. And I didn’t ask for your opinion
@@Philthy.mcguyver310nerd
The guy shot people as they were running away from him robbing them. Hilarious him and Josh both fail to mention that. "Roughed up a little bit" lol
Slavery and Jim Crow are not excuses for murder.
💯
Their claim of "muh pwisonz dey be pickin on us an lockin us up so we be makin license plates!!!" is nothing but another 🥷🏿 fiction to make excuses for a group who destroy every city they live in, in every country, without exception.
Didn’t your ancestors grape and kill black people? They looted everything, and didn’t go to jail
💯... At some point you have to get your act together and act like a civilized member of society
Jim crow was self defense
How can we say prison made him that way when he went to prison for the same behavior?
His dad was incarcerated in prison and his grandpa which dont help form a good child.
Lol Joe can't even be honest
Came here for the comments…
Yea this take from him was crazy. Dude was a menace from childhood.
He's such a closet case he has no more breathing room to bullshi*. JRE is trash now, his act is STALE
Joe just talks bro his honest with his opinion now.... he honest with his opinion 5 months from now even if it's completely the opposite
@@opontiauguiste2511 wtf did you just say? 😂
The Sheldon Johnson story is so unfortunate - the damage it could potentially do to criminal justice reform efforts is immeasurable.
Do they really deserve reform?
He’s always been a psycho… there was no reform for him
You got played Joe ..not race..not prison industries..he was full of shit and Josh Dublin owes everyone an apology
Dood already had the murder and dismemberment planned out before and during the podcast. Thought he could pull a David Blaine and failed. Best to leave the magic to real magicians, bitch.
He didn’t get touched. Got shot, dismembered and was put in a freezer but thats it
😅
🤔
This is why people don’t trust Rogan about other shit because he can’t even be honest about this 🤡🤡🤡
Go cry somewhere 😂😢
He’s a black apologist
FINALLY HE COMMENTED ON IT
Only took almost a month
Well, that wasn't what I expected from Joe. I wanted to hear him delve in way deeper. I'll have to listen to the whole show for that, I guess.
@@shaq74shut up nerd
And spouted nothing but copium. He bought Josh's lies and 💩
And made nothing but excuses for him, what a cuck Rogan is
Joe still got that woke rich far left mindset
It’s not a “rich” mindset. Stop acting like your right wing views are inherently populist
Lol. Dood. He doesn't even qualify for left.
@@TheMutor I wouldn't say he is left wing, but his opinions on Crime, the causes of crime, and the proper punishments of crime, are entirely from a soft decadent western liberal view.
He switches sides when it's convenient, he plays both sides
@@cellardoor9360 Lol so explain your right wing view of crime. “Some ppl are just naturally bad and we should just punish ppl without examining the political and economic causes” 🤣yea man y’all POV is not that much more sophisticated
I think some people have a romanticised view of the justice system. 99% of people in prison are not angelic Robin Hoods.
You have to imagine how many of those people are turned into monsters in prison though. A lot of people just make a stupid mistake, then prison messes you up.
Yeah. People be simping over criminals all the time.
Some people are just evil. They don’t need bad things to happen to them to be evil.
Still waiting for Josh Dubin to make a statement, not holding my breath.
JR will do anything to make excuses for certain groups who can't get their shit together and act right in civilized society.
Either say which group or dont say anything you dummy
"certain groups"? 🤔🤔🤔
@@roohaa8382 ya. cry about it.
@@santaclaus3077 what are you even talking about?
@@roohaa8382 keep crying
Joe trying to save face here. Just admit you fell for his black man victim act.
The way that dude killed that guy makes me think its not his first murder. Just the first one he was caught for.
@@jessesocean5965 The victim didn't go on the biggest podcast on the planet, spouting how the justice system failed him. Only to get out and immediately kill someone. You, sir, may have missed the point.
Lmao really? Why? The way he killed him showed he had no idea how to do it without getting caught. If anything it shows that it was his first.
@@LtGregoryStevensyou're not thinking it through. The way he went about the murder in 2024 is because his mind state on how to carry out a murder is stuck in the 90s, hence why he got caught so quickly whereas that would not have been the case if it took place in 1996
Come on Joe you have to tell the truth about this shit
Call it out!
Joe is allergic to the truth
@@josephmother2659 😂
What is he lying about?
That one of his guests was guilty of marder
Bring on the UA-camr Actual Justice Warrior
YES
That guy is a master in false narrative creation.
@@karljonson3287 he's so cringe to me. hides under the guise of high morality but has clear over-the-top sadistic urges for people who do bad things. i am far from perfect and capable of sadism myself, but i can't stand people like that. type of guy who would be an abusive cop.
@@karljonson3287You're still mad about Kyle R 😂
@@toab why him?
He killed a guy. I don't think prison could've made him much worse.
This was one of the worst looks for Joe
People get so committed to their cause that they stop caring what the truth even is. Someone like Josh is so obsessed with his own cause that he's blinded to the fact that some criminals are actually not great people.
You never answered Akash's question Joe. Sad how strategic Joe has become about not showing any weakness publicly.
He’s crawfishing hard on this one
LMFAO
I'm not sure what you are getting at. Of course he was sold, otherwise he wouldn't have invited him on the podcast. It isn't like Joe is the one that released him. Is it really a weakness to believe someone that says they are trying to better themselves?
@@hat8918 everyone has a certain level of discernment…it’s just a choice if you actually use it or not…🤷🏻♂️
@@HankSemoreButz I'm not getting why it's a big deal whether Rogan believed him or not while talking to him.
Joe you got hoodwinked, and you're still defending his initial sentence???
This kinda proves Joe gaslight his viewers. He can't admit that he invited a legit murderer so that project itself could be shady and need more scrutiny
He had enough murders on before so nothing new.
"Maybe 25 years made him that way.....I know innocent people who did time and came out amazing" I'm sorry but what??? 😂😂😂😂
The innocence project is a joke.
For profit prisons are worse
?how???? They've literally freed hundreds of people?
Why? I'm assuming you don't think it's dumb to want to free innocent people from prison, so do they just have a really low success rate and are heavily funded or something
they did one bad thing and now they're a joke all of sudden? Do you have any idea how many hundreds of innocent people they have freed (a lot of them on death row)?
@@parthgupta8881Prisons don't determine verdicts. 🧠
Joe is sold out
Joe: "He was a good man"
- What about the murders?
Joe: "What murdaaahs"
Def lost some respect for joe on this he completely downplayed the absolute severe insanity of this dudes crime and tried to make up a bunch of crazy excuses
His lawyer said he’s a “beautiful person”. What a slime ball
Joe completely dodges the question of how well the beheader sold himself... I'm guessing because he was completely taken-in.
Keep an eye out...because these folks are being flown, shipped, and bussed into your community every day. Look around....have u noticed?
Goes to show that someone can't be judged solely on how they present themselves publicly. God knows what he's like when he flips the switch behind closed doors.
The brighter the picture the darker the negative.
Joe finally addressed that physco eh?
Lol. Did he really?
@@HankSemoreButzyou’re literally watching the fucking video
@@indigo478 I was. And he was dancing around the issue and not addressing his culpability. Please refrain from further F bombs. Thank you
@@HankSemoreButz f head...you just didn't hear you wantes.to hear. Rogan didn't let the guy out lol
@@indigo478 seriously with the fucks
Yeah, prison is so bad and unfair. So what? Should we stop putting people in prison? Crazy idea here: what about not committing crimes? Then you will not go to a bad and unfair place
“He was kind of a bad guy”?! 😆 he cut someone’s head off and stuffed his arms and torso in his fridge 😆
Lol yeah fucked up and put a murderer on here. Then blamed the prison system. I love you but come on joe. You fucked up. The dude was bad. Also I live here in ID ( Californians please stay away you already ruined our state) but the judges here got in trouble for sending people to prisons they had a part ownership of 😂 they ended up just moving the shares to spouses or something. Dirty system all around
I need to hear Josh Dubin address it now
We dont have an over incarceration problem in this country, we have an under incarceration problem
NO, We have a low IQ problem and your comment is the PROOF 😔
Right
I love this idea honestly
You have the highest percentage of incarcerated ppl in the world. U sure?
@@rockysmickey3797that’s because we have 330 million (that we know of) people 🤷🏻♂️
That dude Joe was talking about with the innocence project. Total clown shadeball. He’s so full of it. He said verbatim “mothers would never kill their own child.” For someone who is apparently an “expert” how does he not know it happens all the time?
The cope is real.
Yeah like the guy you had on the show claiming innocent and got out of prison and they just found a dismembered body in his car
I love ya Joe. I don't enjoy this guy or his Buddy Schultz. I'll watch the next one.
Yea same, these clips didn't convince me to watch
@@Bapth3b3ast YEP!!! See how easy it is to be an adult. I'm not going to hate on Joe. Just watch the next one.
Watch out there’s some meanies in the comments who will come at you for saying that, but I’m right there with you guys
@@redfurydubstep I don't care about miserable people. I'm an adult and I'm sorry they were never first picked for the kickball team or whatever. Being honest isn't a crime.
@@mercedesmaguire1413 agreed
Damn, Joe should have just kept ignoring this topic
JRE WE AINT EVER GONNA STOP
You're gullible. Don't cover for these dudes.
I go back and forth on this issue. The alleged human being who unalived my grandparents on the side of a road in OR was let out before reaching the light end of his sentence by the dubious wisdom of the PR parole board. This despite never apolovizing and in fact blaming my grandparents for the crime he committed against them (if they had just dome what I told them to do...). He's now living in his sons gagrage less than 5 miles from my mothers house. He should have stayed in forever. There was never any question about his guilt. But I don't want people being sent to jail for crimes they didn't commit.
It’s almost as if some groups are inherently more violent than others no matter the socioeconomic status, shocker!
Really? So genetics is always the explanation? Do white and Asian mens genetic force them to be addicted to video games and socially awkward?
If you think this your brain needs more growing only small minded individual believe this there are violent people in every group of people on this earth. People are one group of organisms just because some look different does not mean they are inherently different we are all capable of good and evil
This is the most racist comment I've read in a while congratulations.
@@amiracleone2803still true tho
@@rprt your right it's true as a man we do commit the most violent acts. Why are you allowing such a wide division to grow in your heart?
Homeboy forgot to tell joe that he was a fucking gang banger to lol
"Some dude owed him money, some drug money and he found the guy and robbed him"
Don't downplay his priors. The guy was a gang leader and a drug dealer who tracked down, hurt and robbed others over drug money. Not to mention pointing guns in the process.
Bro actually brought it up. Good deal.
You don’t get 50 years for one incident. He was a habitual offender. You
may find your loved ones at the hands of these people, that you think go to
Jail for “ bullshit” . Karma may find you.
"Reading between the lines, and outside of the margins, I chopped him up" - Sheldon Johnson, a reformed man
Why behead someone when you can simply walk into Mordor?
If weed was legal they would just sell a different drug. They're drug dealers. The fact that they're selling weed is irrelevant.
I got 1-2 years in state prison for my 1st dui, no injuries.
F U C K the system
Pingtrip's video is gold about this guy! lol
Every form of employment has an incentive to drum up more business. Painters, lawyers, plumbers, truckers.
Josh Dubin has blood on his hands
I would love to hear Joe give that bullshit to the families of his victims.
The guy that brought Sheldon into the podcast might want to start doing his homework. He probably got 50 years based on his previous behavior/crimes as well
And they didn't do nuthin, like Sheldon Johnson.
could be possible that the prison made him worse but our prisons does not focus on reform at all and is very tribal
Excuses excuses when’s it gonna end Joe ? I mean the guy is raising a bla man’s daughter so idk
mr Rogan you speak as if majority of people in prison are there for Frivolous reasons. you also speak as iif there for one time offences. at the MOST there are 5% of the prison population is innocent but thats also from a group who with 100% claiming they are innocent. sure there are a SMALL portion of people in prisons for minor shit but the VAST majority are people who have consistently re offended. example is a person who claims to be in prison for a long sentence for just drugs. has 20 other convictions gets caught with a small amount of drugs while ROBBING someone but the plea was reduced to just the drug possession whilst dropping the robbery charge. this happensd ALOT in the prison system because 98 percent of ALL crimes are pleas that result in a reduction of certain offences for a quick conviction as to keeop the justice system less burdened that usual. sure there are plenty of issues to address about our justice system. but we as a society eed to quit acting as if the large portion of these CRIMINALS are innocent or a victim of circumstance. thats simply untrue. the vast majority of these people are criminals ho have mny many manty crimes under their names and thats many many many victims that these monsters commit onyto inniocent people. where is the sympoathy for those who have been victimized by these assholes. just because a bklack people porpotionally have more poeople in prison doesnt mean our society is racist it means that a disporpotion amount of black people are committing crimes and istead of blaming everything but the real issues causing this dispairity of more blacks in prison we are allowing for this to continue.
Innocence Project and their choice in clients are shady as all get out
Joe rogans response to the insanity that is Sheldon Johnson’s nefarious post-release activities is impressively measured and rational.
After standing up for a dude who proved himself totally unworthy one might’ve expected Rogan’s pendulum to swing equally in the opposite direction. But Rogan impresses again with his highly logical reaction-
Instead of blaming the entire system and condemning everyone who gets a second chance, rather he understands the complexity of the issue and sees it from all angles. He still recognizes that the original sentence was probably disproportionate. He gets that prison can actually make a person much worse than they were before. He gets the nuance and complexity of figuring out which people are worthy of a second chance and which are not, and most importantly he gets that even though you may get it wrong sometimes, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the whole idea was a bad one.
This is the Joe Rogan I remember from back in the day.
Why is this fake comedian on here?
He’s actually pretty good.
He’s friends with Schultz, that’s his claim to fame
Any comedian on the jre pod is almost never a comedian..
Its his podcast
@@trantorthetroll8768 bro been out before Andrew was popping, you just wasn’t hip to him.
My whole life was ruined in Pennsylvania. I received a DUI for THC in my blood even though I was 100% sober, had a state issued medical card and had not used my medication in a week. I used to be a technician for BMW and I lost all of that because some cop wanted to hit quota and get a bonus that month. It’s policing for profit!
Jails MAKE MONEY TOO. I was a jailer/guard. Theres 3 tier's, County Inmate, State Inmate & Federal Inmate. Jails can house ALL 3 TIERS. Each tier pays different acceding. The jail can only house a certain % of State & Federal Inmates and they prefer Federal Inmates that are paper crimes ie money laundering, tax evasion etc... And now most jails use off premise companies for video visitation and e fund commissary meaning a separate private company charges you $5 automatically to put $50 on an inmates commissary funds, then turns around and charges the inmate $5 to buy a single can of Coke or $4 for 20 sheets of paper.
The jail gets commission on all sales. Even a commission on video visitation and pay per minute phone calls and email communication.
This incident really made me have to question The Innocence Project; this dude's history wasn't a secret, he didn't "get the book thrown at him", he was a major player in gangs in the area, there's a LOT of background that went into his prison sentence - that The Innocence Project guys downplayed HEAVILY. It's egregious enough that they couldn't have been "fooled" or whatever, they had to deliberately soften the story.
Now this dude isn't exactly representative of everyone they've worked with obviously, as far as I can tell the vast majority of people they've gotten off have been totally legit(as far as I can tell...). But I don't understand how the people supporting legitimately innocent convicts can also straight up smooth over the past of a dude this vile.
This system your speaking about is so big and scary. I mean government controlled as well so i dont ever think there will be a time that anyone sheds lifht or betters the prison and jails in america. Im not saying it has to be daycare but i know what ive seen with my own eyes.
For your information slavery still a thing in africa
Wtf is Joe saying 😭
He even basically asked “how good was he at not acting like a killer” 😂 like he could get some more tips
My neighbor’s son did 20years in prison. He got released mid 2023. Story he says was at a party and his buddies went outside and came back rushing saying they got to go and they had some girl in the passenger seat and someone blasted her mouth and cops came to the truck and neighbor’s story was he has no idea what was going on so he was in the bed of the truck where the cops found him and another person. He claims he had nothing to do with it but he’s out now and already has a stolen car under his belt and he lives with his parents and they got him a used good condition Honda and he ruined that. Not so sure about him
Joe acting like he doesn't stand armed robbery and why dude got 50 years
Joe needs Sean of AJW on his poscast to set him straight.
Josh Dubin outright says he knew Sheldon was guilty unlike his previous guests, right after calling Sheldon his friend & his brother...... Why was Sheldon released at all?
i'm not sure how they can say it in a jokey sort of way. the other guy was a human being just like them. he had family. he was a real person who suffered an horrific end. there should be zero laughs. imagine it was one of joe's children and i was a podcast host and talked about the death of his kid in such a light hearted jokey way. joe would track me down.
Chivarella was the judge. I was in high school in the area where this was happening. A lot of kids got a lot of money back for being put away for the pettiest crimes.
The definition of liberal white guilt
1:33 so charged before this even happened. Drug dealer, pistol whipped a guy which can be attempted murder by the way. Yeah 50 years seems damn accurate.
This dude again ? He is boring
Wow he was on before
They're both snooze buttons
Joe talks about private prisons being messed up because they make money off of having prisoners, but doesn't stop to think that's how it works with the government funded prisons as well.
I was hoping this incident would allow Rogan to see Josh Dubin is a grifter who made a career off of selling sob stories and injustice.
But no.
Birds of a feather. Btw. Joe's a serious cokehead. Tell me I'm wrong Joe. Tell me I'm wrong hehe
I grew up in Wilkes barre. Did 6months in total for weed. Those judges are all. The. Same. I owe 13k$ to the state. Some the things theyre charging me for is sitting in a chair. Touching a pencil. Shit like that. And i dont know if it was on purpose or not but i asked for fiber capsules and they gave me antidepressants for old people. and a super vitamin. Threw up for weeks. Law firms wont do anything. Sick. Sick world... i feel as though now, the only job i am able to have here, is McDonald's. Or a tj maxx. Walmart.
Why does Rogan has this goofy Indian on ??? He should have legendary warriors on with cool life stories like Dominiquie Vandenberg the soldier of fortune who was a legend in the French foreign legion 2 Rep
He had a longggggg rap sheet. Prison didn’t do that to him. Maybe that’s why the judge gave him such a long sentence.
Jesus joe. Come on man.
Holy cow!!! What Joe?!
It’s okay I know you’re hurt that he’s defending black ppl, there are still ppl like Nick Fuentes you can watch
@@Octaviusp47 I love NF. Black culture is indefensible. Move to the hood if you think it’s so great. Put your money where your mouth is tough guy.
@@Octaviusp47 He is defending criminals, not black people. Is that what you think black people are?! Who’s the real racist?
Finally this cookie cutter talks about the obvious liar he previously had as a guest
I could read the BS on that dude.
It was two judges in pa. One was corrupt, and the other also deals blow for the mob.
joe still believes that black men don’t earn their place in prison? disconnected af.
Disconnected from what? Whenever anyone else behaves a certain way history is an acceptable explanation, only with us it’s “genetics”. The fact that black men in Africa have different tendencies would prove genetics to not be the answer. You’re probably one of those ppl who believes black ppl are “privileged” and white ppl are “under attack” I’m guessing, right?
He's not disconnected, he's explaining the broken system that also incarates other men of racial backgrounds living in red lined communities with poor policing. You bring no explanation just hidden bigotry.
@@skullbatter most conservatives would rather believe black people are inferior, and that the US power structure has played no role in the community’s problems. Don’t be surprised
I dunno about the American system, but I can tell you that the Canadian system has zero rehabilitation. You go in to network and learn how to do crime better or commit other crimes.
Josh Douchin is a menace to society as is the whole innocence project racket.