@@Infoagemage Doesn't approach much, gameplay consists of a lot of spin dash, forces not projectile chars to approach at disadvantage lot of time, stagnant gameplay, just not really the best for a spectators experience (and in many players cases to play against too)
@harryhoudini7621 bad character design. Sonic is a bit limited on aggressive burst options (his nair hitbox just isn't that good especially) and his numerous ball moves are so good at starting combos. The result is a character who rewards the player for camping, constantly running away til a spin dash connects. Cool, flashy, aggro Sonic (the canonical attitude of Sonic the video game character) is simply not always optimal at top level play.
@rohandatta7111 that's as a Sonix hater*. You didn't even say the character, just the player 😂😂. Though I was wishing and hoping Leo won too. He needed another one under his belt 💯
@@Coal-RubL Pretty much all the pros agree Sonic is at least top 5 and is often in top 3 tierlist-wise. Yeah he's not as easy as people make it out to be and Sonix definitely has some crazy advantage state tho.
When I first picked up ultimate (having skipped smash 4) I ran into a Corrin online and thought the character had such a unique moveset for a swordie. Immediately picked them up and been a main since the pre-patch days! It's great to see Leo's Corrin return from the brief stint a while back. Shadic and Neo are great in their own right, but it's nice to see a grand finals with Corrin. Good stuff to both players!
@@PerryAIIen I honestly can't remember, this was 3-4 years ago, but probably zss. Ended up in gsp hell with her for a long time. Not a great beginner character lol
I’m not sure if this is the case, I’m pretty sure when he truly wants to win he just does it like we saw at Ludwig. Idk I’ve heard he hasn’t been practicing as much, or maybe the competition finally caught up to him Nonetheless he’ll always be the goat imo
@@acekingdom5050 He definitely isn’t the UNDISPUTED number 1 anymore, people have definitely had time to catch up to him and give him a run for his money. But in my mind Leo is still the top dog, the cream of the crop, the final boss of Ultimate. Always MY #1🐐
@@madduxnagel6935 Yes, maybe he's not the #1, but he's definitely the greatest Ultimate player, and I don't think this will change until the end of Ultimate.
I love seeing Leo stick to his guns here. I feel like too often Leo would get discouraged and switch characters rather than staying the course but I love seeing this wonderful return to form of getting the download and modifying his playstyle to suit the match. Once he got to the second set there was just an obvious difference in how he was playing and it was very cool to see him work out the matchup on the fly as he's so good at doing.
@@ryanrech107 What matchups would Corrin cover? It looks like he plans to replace Aegis with it for Sonic but I don’t know what other matchups Corrin would cover
@@gorb3893 Corrin will also be a much better matchup against Steve, Wario, Pikachu, and Kazuya. He originally brought out the Corrin as a counter-pick against Pikachu
@@gorb3893His corrin almost got 3 stocked the first time,Leo's adaptation is just built different,he can't go one character vs sonic and be predictable.
@@sorisriskis3943 love how whenever someone disagrees with something the person being disagreed with questions why the other guy is mad when theres no anger lol
@@Shadowizzmoneygang I never said there was anger, however you hated my comment for basically no reason. All I said was how I love Leo’s corrin and that’s it’s one of his best and you were bothered enough to reply to me.
I picked her up because the rest of my lineup is ruined by Sonic and she matches up evenly against that blue idiot. For reference, my main is Joker with Sephiroth, Robin, and Mewtwo as secondaries. She’s quite fun, I agree!
Sonix is a great heel and given a different character on his end, i think he could be one of the most hype players out there. Sonix regularly makes the most clutch or insane plays but because its sonic, nobody cares because there was 5 minutes of camping before hand. Either way, I love to see him play the heel as bad as it may sound. Top notch gameplay here
I want to see the Sonix Acola matchup so bad because rather than there being a top player and their rival it's more several players fighting to surpass the top but Acola has been the most consistent and Sparg0 has a good record but Sonix has somehow consistently managed to never fight Acola and their very inconsistent Super Smash Con alongside Sparg0 has put that off for even longer
Question: how many top players need to get completely clapped and then all but drop Pyra/Mythra before we all finally admit that the character is not really all that good???
Watching Sonix is a pain in the ass. His play style is 90% running away, waiting for the smallest possibility of a punish and nearly never approaching. And if he does it's with spin dash and he's at the other side of the stage afterwards. Nothing fucking happens throughout minutes in a match and that's fucking boring. It's a fighting game f sakes. I can see it's effective but it's just not fun to watch
I am quite new to Smash and especially pro scene. Why did MKLeo win the whole thing when Sonix won the first best of 5 and then after the split MKLeo won the next of 5? Shouldn't they both be 1-1 for sets and go for another best of 5?
Its double elimination bracket. Sonix was coming from loser's bracket meaning he already lost a previous match, while leo is on winner's side since he has not lost a match. The one on loser's side has to win 2 sets while winner's only has to win 1
Leo won 3 - 1 vs Sonix in a previous round. Sonix went to the Losers bracket and then faced MKLeo again in Grand Finals. Since Leo didn't lose any set so far, Sonix needed to beat him twice (3 of 5 each time). Leo only needed to beat Sonix once to win the tournament.
MKleo, the Goat. Leo adapts incredibly well to gimmicks, unless you can put walls and be the absolute worst shit in the game (steve) your running around bs ain't gonna cut it
sonix was coming from losers bracket and leo was in winners bracket, so sonix would have to win twice. basically the second set they were both in losers bracket
You have to lose twice to be out of the tournament. Leo was in winners, meaning he hasn’t lost yet. Sonix was in losers meaning he lost a set already. When it’s grand finals, because Leo is in winners side and haven’t lost he needs to lose 2 sets instead of 1. But because Sonix already lost 1 set he can’t lose another therefore he’d be out
If you lose 1 set you get into the losers bracket , which is where Sonix was , if you lose another you are out . Mkleo was in the winners bracket if you never lose you get there . Its like 1 extra life which everyone has , thats why to win the tourney he needed to beat him twice.
It kind of sucks bc Sonix is obviously very good but Sonic's gameplan is just sooooooo unlikeable as an observer and let's be real we've all fought that sonic online... don't think he should get so much hate but I will say he's a good villain to root against
Can someone explain to me how the scoring system works? I just saw the Sonic player get 3-0 then lose immediately at 3-1 I’m so confused can someone just explain how Leo won that?
A bit late but smash tournaments run on a double elimination bracket system. Usually there's "pools" first where you fight everyone in your pool and depending on how you did you get to winners or losers side of bracket or if you lost a lot in pools you might just not get to bracket at all and will drop out. Then in the bracket, people on the winners side can lose once and still stay in bracket but they will drop to the losers side instead. Losing in losers side means you're out. Once both winners and losers sides of the bracket proceed far enough so that there's just one winner on both sides, these winners fight in "grand finals", which is what the set in this video is. In grand finals the person who made it from the winners side is at an advantage because they are still allowed to lose one set, while the person who made it from losers side has to win two sets in a row to beat the person from winners side. In the video you can see next to Sonix's name there is "(L)" which means he made it to grands from the Loser's side and Leo made it from winners. After the first set where he beats Leo, Leo's name also gets the "(L)" added to indicate that they are now even and that it is the true final set.
All things aside, why is it that projectiles feel so useless if they aren't transcendent? I know Corrin's is unique in that it always gets beat out, but it's frustrating to see aerials just striaght beating them out.
Yeah, Corrin dragon fang is trash. It's a laggy move, and the actual projectile is slow moving so it can get blocked easily(though if you do manage to hit with the projectile, then you could do some cool follow ups). I gotta admit, it's a cool and unique move but there's a reason not to use it alot.
@@Tee_Wilson I know it's useful for the up close combo with Dragon fang, but it can whiff. Also, the stun doesn't last long enough for it to reliably combo, which should be a given due to how long it takes to charge. It's a badly designed move.
Did leo drop joker? Also Zero was just talking about how Leo has a tendency to switch characters when he's not winning. Glad to see him stick it out and it pay off
The smash community will never be freed from the shackles that is the hive mind of hating on Sonic. This man Sonix sent Leo to losers with him maintaining a consistent lead long enough to make him the only one to really put the pressure on Leo, resulting in a 3-0 win in Sonix's favor. Must be good to be a hater.
Pobre Sonix, Le terminaron tirando nuevamente hate por ser tan cojo, camperito y aburrido, pero asi es su estilo de juego, a mi la verdad no me molesta su estilo de juego, pero si tienen razon los que le tiran hate y que me mas se le va hacer. por otro lado, Felicidades MKLeo por haber ganado un torneo, hace tiempo que no ganabas un trofeo y tambien felicidades Sonix por haber dado uno de tus mejores juegos contra mi paisano y por haber estado cerca de ganar el campeonato.
Tienes razón es triste por sonix y lo malo es que la comunidad le echa hate a sonic pero no otros personajes con el mismo estilo de combate por ejemplo min min snakey banjo kazooie y samus nadie dise algo sobre esos personajes
I mean that’s how Sonic works, he is a bait-punish type character and his weight is quite light. Yeah, yeah, aggressive Sonic is very fun to watch but people don’t understand that it’s quite hard to play aggressively as Sonic. Not to mention the set is not even that bad, Sonix plays quite aggressively but he ends up getting the unnecessary hates from the toxic community.
Holy crap mkleo is so good at this game, I’ve watch nothing but sonix dominate in every video I’ve watched and he just beat him with his off character.
Sonic still needs a nerf, such a masher. Just give him a tiny more lag on any of his moves, or take away his constant intangibility. How can he camp, mash, rush, frame trap, all at the same time?
In a double-elimination tournament, everyone gets to lose twice before being done. Sonix lost a match earlier in the tournament, that's why there's an L next to his name in game one. MKLeo didn't lose a game before this fight. He lost the first game, his first L in the entire tournament. So now they play one more time to see who loses a second time, hence double elimination
Double elimination format. This means that you have to lose twice to be eliminated. Sonix had already lost to leo before, leo hadn't lost any sets. So for leo to be eliminated, sonix would have to beat him twice.
That replay is only one edgeguard, most of his gameplay is like this 19:27 or 21:06 going to the other side of the stage, some feints that he is going but stay on the other side, then B and attack, if he missed, then start again unless caught by MKLeo
@@ZATCHBELL2007 Y'all see Sonix gameplay and immediately think: *Oh he's running, going to ledge, and pressing B all the time. He must be camping every game.* Y'all don't even understand what positioning means against a character that has bigger hitboxes than Sonic lmfao.
@@Lariat._no, they’re absolutely right. You must be putting your blinders on. It’s not really 99% of the time but it’s most definitely 75%+ of the time he’s going back and forth. Literally cannot play neutral. That’s why when sonix does make a mistake leo is able to catch it and capitalize, because sonix neutral is so bad because he never has to play it. That’s why everyone’s annoyed at the character.
Joker can deal with this... sonic takes very long to kill which can lead to multiple Arsen in 1 stock making dangerous for sonic to not kill him early...
It's better for the game if Sonix just keeps hitting grands and then losing, few people in the community actually wanna see the guy win. It's tragic but true, viewership for sonix games revolved around wanting to see him lose. I'm no exception honestly, I do not like watching Sonix play, I don't hate the guy but I hate his playstyle and I love to see him lose.
I love how Sonix activates the MkLeo character roulette so we get to see crazy things like this.
@@rohandatta7111 why is sonic so hated? asking honestly
@@Infoagemage Doesn't approach much, gameplay consists of a lot of spin dash, forces not projectile chars to approach at disadvantage lot of time, stagnant gameplay, just not really the best for a spectators experience (and in many players cases to play against too)
@@rohandatta7111not even close to being the stupidest character when FP2 exists.
@@michaeldinh2449 Yeah, that and my ears hurt when I play against one.
@harryhoudini7621 bad character design. Sonic is a bit limited on aggressive burst options (his nair hitbox just isn't that good especially) and his numerous ball moves are so good at starting combos. The result is a character who rewards the player for camping, constantly running away til a spin dash connects. Cool, flashy, aggro Sonic (the canonical attitude of Sonic the video game character) is simply not always optimal at top level play.
there was no better way leo could have ended that tournament. the 2 frame pin tipper was insane
Bro was sent to the next dimension with that last pin 💀🪦
God I love that he broke out the Corrin to clap Sonic.
God I love you commented this as top comment. Now I don't have to appreciate the video but whatever this community is basically dead anyway.
@@sethdavila7367just don’t look at the comments before you watch the video?
@@sethdavila7367 why'd you go to the comments? lol
Lol you don't even need to go to the comments section to see it cuz this is the top comment
@@elone7744 oh shit. that sucks
As a Corrin main this puts a smile on my face
Indeed
Hahaha the sonic hate is funny but for real nothing gets betten than mkleo kicking ass
@rohandatta7111 that's as a Sonix hater*. You didn't even say the character, just the player 😂😂. Though I was wishing and hoping Leo won too. He needed another one under his belt 💯
@@rohandatta7111L
Always love watching Leo's Corrin. This was a great set, GG's to both Sonix and Leo.
I hate how good Sonix is. I wish I could just say hes carried by Sonic, but the dude is actually an insanely good Ultimate player.
Considering hes the only top 10-20 player using sonic id say hes the one doing the carrying not sonic
I respect you for not braindeadly hating the character.
Unlike 80% of the community 💀
@@xbgsheikiii3593He makes it easy.
@@Coal-RubL Pretty much all the pros agree Sonic is at least top 5 and is often in top 3 tierlist-wise. Yeah he's not as easy as people make it out to be and Sonix definitely has some crazy advantage state tho.
@@amlz1813I don’t think everyone argues top 5 but majority do. Everyone says he’s top 10 though for sure
When I first picked up ultimate (having skipped smash 4) I ran into a Corrin online and thought the character had such a unique moveset for a swordie. Immediately picked them up and been a main since the pre-patch days! It's great to see Leo's Corrin return from the brief stint a while back. Shadic and Neo are great in their own right, but it's nice to see a grand finals with Corrin.
Good stuff to both players!
She’s so fun to play
Who were you playing as when you ran into the Corrin online? Like who was your original Ultimate main?
I'm glad to see more and more corrin mains
@@PerryAIIen I honestly can't remember, this was 3-4 years ago, but probably zss. Ended up in gsp hell with her for a long time. Not a great beginner character lol
EVERYONE thought Leo needed Mythra for Sonic. Yall were wrong
And boy I was
I didn’t think that but true
Not really. This is not the first time Leo beat Sonix with his Corrin. But I guess people only remember the last 5 seconds in Ultimate for some reason
Leo just needs Leo. He’s the true S tier in Ultimate
I mean, Sonix also lost to Capitancito's Gunner.
Leo just has the most mental capacity for this game. You can see Sonix was playing worse in the second set but Leo just played better.
Damn, Leo ducking at 18:03 lol
and it even worked lmao
Good catch this is actually peak
Congratulations MkLeo!!! You are the greatest Smash Ultimate player! It's great to see you winning again!! XD
I’m not sure if this is the case, I’m pretty sure when he truly wants to win he just does it like we saw at Ludwig. Idk I’ve heard he hasn’t been practicing as much, or maybe the competition finally caught up to him
Nonetheless he’ll always be the goat imo
The Ultimate GOAT
@@acekingdom5050 He definitely isn’t the UNDISPUTED number 1 anymore, people have definitely had time to catch up to him and give him a run for his money. But in my mind Leo is still the top dog, the cream of the crop, the final boss of Ultimate. Always MY #1🐐
@@madduxnagel6935 Yes, maybe he's not the #1, but he's definitely the greatest Ultimate player, and I don't think this will change until the end of Ultimate.
I think once the king returns to his throne, he will not let it go easily. Viva Mexico, Viva MkLeo!!!!🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
I love seeing Leo stick to his guns here. I feel like too often Leo would get discouraged and switch characters rather than staying the course but I love seeing this wonderful return to form of getting the download and modifying his playstyle to suit the match. Once he got to the second set there was just an obvious difference in how he was playing and it was very cool to see him work out the matchup on the fly as he's so good at doing.
It's actually pretty rare to see him switch while losing. Tbh, idc who he plays or switches to as long as it's not pythra.
@@r1pperduckthis 🗣️
Sonix, gracias por representar a la Rep. Dominicana, estamos muy orgulloso de ti
Joker, Byleth and Corrin is the lineup he should stick with.
Joker main, Byleth secondary, Corrin for Sonix
@@gorb3893byleth and joker co main, corrin for matchups neither byleth or joker cover
@@ryanrech107 What matchups would Corrin cover? It looks like he plans to replace Aegis with it for Sonic but I don’t know what other matchups Corrin would cover
@@gorb3893 Corrin will also be a much better matchup against Steve, Wario, Pikachu, and Kazuya. He originally brought out the Corrin as a counter-pick against Pikachu
@@gorb3893His corrin almost got 3 stocked the first time,Leo's adaptation is just built different,he can't go one character vs sonic and be predictable.
I’m so glad to see Mkleo bring corrin back, it’s one of his best characters and I think one of the most fun to watch.
i hate this comment because his corrin is most definitely not better than his joker
@@Shadowizzmoneygangif you're trying to keep people out, it's nice to have a big sword. Matchups trump tier lists
@@Shadowizzmoneygang I never said it was better than his joker. I don’t know why your mad about this so just chill bud.
@@sorisriskis3943 love how whenever someone disagrees with something the person being disagreed with questions why the other guy is mad when theres no anger lol
@@Shadowizzmoneygang I never said there was anger, however you hated my comment for basically no reason. All I said was how I love Leo’s corrin and that’s it’s one of his best and you were bothered enough to reply to me.
Corrin is such a fun character to play and watch! Very underrated. She's one of my secondaries. Glad to see more gameplay of her at top level!
I picked her up because the rest of my lineup is ruined by Sonic and she matches up evenly against that blue idiot. For reference, my main is Joker with Sephiroth, Robin, and Mewtwo as secondaries. She’s quite fun, I agree!
Sonix is a great heel and given a different character on his end, i think he could be one of the most hype players out there. Sonix regularly makes the most clutch or insane plays but because its sonic, nobody cares because there was 5 minutes of camping before hand. Either way, I love to see him play the heel as bad as it may sound. Top notch gameplay here
Literally the only comment without a ‘like’ lol.
I agree with you my guy
It also makes for some peak comedy seeing little kids call him "genuinely sociopathic" xD
I want to see the Sonix Acola matchup so bad because rather than there being a top player and their rival it's more several players fighting to surpass the top but Acola has been the most consistent and Sparg0 has a good record but Sonix has somehow consistently managed to never fight Acola and their very inconsistent Super Smash Con alongside Sparg0 has put that off for even longer
It's almost like we're learning more about Leo as a player when his greatness is being challenged more than ever. He keeps leveling up
So Leo decided he just won't have a main anymore, huh?
It's the Byleth
His main is still Byleth.
He's too good, so he needs to play new characters in order to have any fun
He said that he mains Fire Emblem which isn't wrong.
In a game with 89 characters and so many polarising MUs, solo maining at a high level looks really tough.
Leo will always be my favorite player to watch
Gracias a dios Leo vio el "como ganar con Corrin" de chaparrito 😂😂😂
Seguro se vió hasta el short de como derrotar a Sonic para poder vencer a Sonix 🤣
Congrats on MKLEO!! hope we see the legend reborn now
Once again, love watching sonix wait out games, making them last 3 times as long as they should, just to lose lmao
Yall are insuferable
@@aldintv7687 Nothing is as insufferable as his gameplay.
@@aldintv7687yo it's return fire
Question: how many top players need to get completely clapped and then all but drop Pyra/Mythra before we all finally admit that the character is not really all that good???
They are really good, but way too overrated. Recovery sucks and killing can be pretty difficult, as Pyra’s slow and Mythra’s pretty weak
The character is the definition of unattractive
Watched this live awesome
My favorite part was when Leo didn’t pick Aeguis the whole time
Watching Sonix is a pain in the ass. His play style is 90% running away, waiting for the smallest possibility of a punish and nearly never approaching. And if he does it's with spin dash and he's at the other side of the stage afterwards. Nothing fucking happens throughout minutes in a match and that's fucking boring. It's a fighting game f sakes. I can see it's effective but it's just not fun to watch
I am quite new to Smash and especially pro scene. Why did MKLeo win the whole thing when Sonix won the first best of 5 and then after the split MKLeo won the next of 5? Shouldn't they both be 1-1 for sets and go for another best of 5?
Its double elimination bracket. Sonix was coming from loser's bracket meaning he already lost a previous match, while leo is on winner's side since he has not lost a match. The one on loser's side has to win 2 sets while winner's only has to win 1
Leo won 3 - 1 vs Sonix in a previous round. Sonix went to the Losers bracket and then faced MKLeo again in Grand Finals. Since Leo didn't lose any set so far, Sonix needed to beat him twice (3 of 5 each time). Leo only needed to beat Sonix once to win the tournament.
FInally! Thanks!
Leo always conditioning and studying you while letting you get your reset. Then applied his download and you’re done!
My thoughts exactly.
For Leo, two games are more than enough.
Fighting sonic must take hella patience
Yes, if the Sonic player knows whst he is doing and stick to his gameplan, you need patience and analize how to punish
MKleo, the Goat. Leo adapts incredibly well to gimmicks, unless you can put walls and be the absolute worst shit in the game (steve) your running around bs ain't gonna cut it
22:05 don't underestimate the EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!
Welp, you know what they say: "Don't let Leo get to game 4".
That shits ultra dead
@@HiImAidenay lmaooo
@@HiImAidenthe unfortunate truth. Someone had to say it and it wasn’t gonna be me.
I love both these characters, and no game went to time! I really enjoyed this set.
Can anyone explain the tournament system how did Leo won the set? Didn’t Sonix won the first set and Leo won the 2nd? Im confused
sonix was coming from losers bracket and leo was in winners bracket, so sonix would have to win twice. basically the second set they were both in losers bracket
You have to lose twice to be out of the tournament. Leo was in winners, meaning he hasn’t lost yet. Sonix was in losers meaning he lost a set already. When it’s grand finals, because Leo is in winners side and haven’t lost he needs to lose 2 sets instead of 1. But because Sonix already lost 1 set he can’t lose another therefore he’d be out
If you lose 1 set you get into the losers bracket , which is where Sonix was , if you lose another you are out . Mkleo was in the winners bracket if you never lose you get there . Its like 1 extra life which everyone has , thats why to win the tourney he needed to beat him twice.
@@MagwaGaming ohhh
@@임주원-d9hIn addition to Magwa's comment, MKLeo won 3 - 1 vs Sonix in a previous round, and that's why Sonix was in the losers bracket.
I hear commentary say "Leo might switch to ___", but Leo usually just plays what he wants
run to the corner and spin dash x100 to losing the match is a true combo
Didn’t wave - already happened a few months ago or was that a different tournament?
It kind of sucks bc Sonix is obviously very good but Sonic's gameplan is just sooooooo unlikeable as an observer and let's be real we've all fought that sonic online... don't think he should get so much hate but I will say he's a good villain to root against
His gameplan isn't even all that different from Leo's or Tweeks
@@rizvan1632it is, Leo approaches way more than sonix or tweek, not the most aggressive player but he’s doesn’t camp this much
“Oh wow more sonic gameplay”… said no one
Has anyone ever beat Leo from losers side of Grands? It feels impossible with his level of adaption.
Sparg0 did in a recent tourney
@@oscarheinrich5519 Ah, sounds about right. If anybody in the world could actually pull it off it would definitely be him. lol
KEN did once
The guy in the smash ball shirt was me. I thanked him for letting us go home
I swear every time I hear someone say that Leo hasn’t win anything in a while, he goes and wins something
It's funny because even MKLeo's worst looks much better than a good few players' best
How many times has sonix placef 2nd?
Can someone explain to me how the scoring system works? I just saw the Sonic player get 3-0 then lose immediately at 3-1 I’m so confused can someone just explain how Leo won that?
A bit late but smash tournaments run on a double elimination bracket system. Usually there's "pools" first where you fight everyone in your pool and depending on how you did you get to winners or losers side of bracket or if you lost a lot in pools you might just not get to bracket at all and will drop out.
Then in the bracket, people on the winners side can lose once and still stay in bracket but they will drop to the losers side instead. Losing in losers side means you're out. Once both winners and losers sides of the bracket proceed far enough so that there's just one winner on both sides, these winners fight in "grand finals", which is what the set in this video is. In grand finals the person who made it from the winners side is at an advantage because they are still allowed to lose one set, while the person who made it from losers side has to win two sets in a row to beat the person from winners side.
In the video you can see next to Sonix's name there is "(L)" which means he made it to grands from the Loser's side and Leo made it from winners. After the first set where he beats Leo, Leo's name also gets the "(L)" added to indicate that they are now even and that it is the true final set.
all i could hear the commentators say was "CORN" lmao
The Champ is here! The Champ is here!
Definitely a fast forward kind of video.
All things aside, why is it that projectiles feel so useless if they aren't transcendent? I know Corrin's is unique in that it always gets beat out, but it's frustrating to see aerials just striaght beating them out.
Yeah, Corrin dragon fang is trash. It's a laggy move, and the actual projectile is slow moving so it can get blocked easily(though if you do manage to hit with the projectile, then you could do some cool follow ups). I gotta admit, it's a cool and unique move but there's a reason not to use it alot.
@@Tee_Wilson I know it's useful for the up close combo with Dragon fang, but it can whiff. Also, the stun doesn't last long enough for it to reliably combo, which should be a given due to how long it takes to charge.
It's a badly designed move.
I really despise Sonix's playstyle, it is infuriating to watch. I don't ever see myself rooting for this guy.
Sonic would be so cool if ppl played hom very aggressively like fox
Well if this type of gameplay works it works that's all
@islemsissou7707 The matches are just a bit of a slog to watch. But if it works it works yeah
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@@islemsissou7707 true 🤷🏾
Ken from Japan does.
Watch a good light vs sonix set and you’ll get your wish
*CORRIN IS BACK‼️*
Sonic grand finals…35min length? That’s shorter than I expected.
Orgullo Mexicano felicidades Leo
Leo is my hero
First set is how I play Corrin, 2nd is why I try maining them 😎
The commentary line at the end, so funny
Damn what a close match. Good game for both players.
I know he win but I am surprused by how close this match was....at least considering Leo's dominance before
He hasn't been dominant in a while and sonix is an insane player
I mean you try fighting the best sonic main in the scene. This ain't some online random sonic, its a top level player, it's not easy not even for leo
how can you watch sonic gameplay and think "damn thats hype"?
Because sonic is him
Honestly it wasn’t too bad in this set
tbf, that edgeguard to end set 1 was immaculate
Finally Leo is back to save smash
Another Casual W by Mkleo which is insane because Sonix can be argue to be a top 5 player this year
I think Leo intentionally missed all of the 2 frame pins just to end the set with it
Did leo drop joker? Also Zero was just talking about how Leo has a tendency to switch characters when he's not winning. Glad to see him stick it out and it pay off
He used joker earlier this tournament against T3 Dom
@@krontexpit that's good to hear. I feel like his joker really inspired players to push that character to it's most stylish limits
@@Xtrooper116 100% agree, his movement tech is crazy with the tether and gun usage. I only play Pit so I literally have no clue how
This dude ruined quarantine smash i cant forgive that
I love watching mkleo. But literally can't when he plays this dude. It's crazy
Bro really referred to a top 10 player in the world as “this dude” 💀
@ryanrech107 aw baby I'm sorry. U love sonic the hedge hog
The smash community will never be freed from the shackles that is the hive mind of hating on Sonic. This man Sonix sent Leo to losers with him maintaining a consistent lead long enough to make him the only one to really put the pressure on Leo, resulting in a 3-0 win in Sonix's favor. Must be good to be a hater.
@fanganchild5562 dude I really don't care I'm about to fuq my gf
@@fanganchild5562 u go play with your stuffed animals now kid
Sonixがホムヒカを徐々に克服してきたと思ったらカムイでも行けちゃうのかよ
Where is Sparg0 ?
he got dairy queened
Always good to see Leo win. Even better when he beats a sonic main.
Pobre Sonix, Le terminaron tirando nuevamente hate por ser tan cojo, camperito y aburrido, pero asi es su estilo de juego, a mi la verdad no me molesta su estilo de juego, pero si tienen razon los que le tiran hate y que me mas se le va hacer.
por otro lado, Felicidades MKLeo por haber ganado un torneo, hace tiempo que no ganabas un trofeo y tambien felicidades Sonix por haber dado uno de tus mejores juegos contra mi paisano y por haber estado cerca de ganar el campeonato.
Y fijate que jugó muy ofensivo
Tienes razón es triste por sonix y lo malo es que la comunidad le echa hate a sonic pero no otros personajes con el mismo estilo de combate por ejemplo min min snakey banjo kazooie y samus nadie dise algo sobre esos personajes
I mean that’s how Sonic works, he is a bait-punish type character and his weight is quite light. Yeah, yeah, aggressive Sonic is very fun to watch but people don’t understand that it’s quite hard to play aggressively as Sonic.
Not to mention the set is not even that bad, Sonix plays quite aggressively but he ends up getting the unnecessary hates from the toxic community.
How many wins for MKLeo’s career in 8 years?
Nunca pensé ver un dominicano en esta posición 😨💪🏼🇩🇴
thats why hes DA GOAT
watching leo play corrin rly make me anna learn to play her
Literally nothing to learn about that character pure fundamentals
@@LolPlayer505ur bad
him*
Corrin and sonic players been saying this matchup is even af, now people are seeing it
Desde República Dominicana, mis felicitaciones para Sonix
35min GF!? Guess Sonic matches really do take forever
THATS MY GOAT
Man I hate sonic
no one cares that you do
They’re the Best two commentators easy!!
OMG EE ITS THE FIRST 5 SECONDS OF UA-cam
MY MANS HERE SPEEDRUNNING GETTING A VID DEMONITIZED
0:04 you WHAT know whatsup?
15:10 Mad stock
Sonix the type of guy to take his time to lose
Congrats my champ !!!!!!
WaveDash 💯💯💯
SpinDash 🤢🤢🤢
Still pretty sick of Sonix to showcase that the brawler archetype can hang against the best disjointed sword player in ultimate.
Holy crap mkleo is so good at this game, I’ve watch nothing but sonix dominate in every video I’ve watched and he just beat him with his off character.
Sonic still needs a nerf, such a masher. Just give him a tiny more lag on any of his moves, or take away his constant intangibility. How can he camp, mash, rush, frame trap, all at the same time?
Can someone explain why resets are a rule?
In a double-elimination tournament, everyone gets to lose twice before being done. Sonix lost a match earlier in the tournament, that's why there's an L next to his name in game one. MKLeo didn't lose a game before this fight. He lost the first game, his first L in the entire tournament. So now they play one more time to see who loses a second time, hence double elimination
@@pozitron3792 gotcha, thanks
Double elimination format. This means that you have to lose twice to be eliminated. Sonix had already lost to leo before, leo hadn't lost any sets. So for leo to be eliminated, sonix would have to beat him twice.
@@pozitron3792The video also made me confused lol why they didn’t upload the full length
15:11 Sonix haters couldn't understand what camping is if it shot em in the foot. Stay mad, fellas. (Edit: ONG the replies are so headass.)
He's a toxic player who's always looking for the moment to time out good players. So yeah he's a camper 99% of the time lol
You called out the reply lmao
That replay is only one edgeguard, most of his gameplay is like this 19:27 or 21:06 going to the other side of the stage, some feints that he is going but stay on the other side, then B and attack, if he missed, then start again unless caught by MKLeo
@@ZATCHBELL2007 Y'all see Sonix gameplay and immediately think: *Oh he's running, going to ledge, and pressing B all the time. He must be camping every game.* Y'all don't even understand what positioning means against a character that has bigger hitboxes than Sonic lmfao.
@@Lariat._no, they’re absolutely right. You must be putting your blinders on. It’s not really 99% of the time but it’s most definitely 75%+ of the time he’s going back and forth. Literally cannot play neutral. That’s why when sonix does make a mistake leo is able to catch it and capitalize, because sonix neutral is so bad because he never has to play it. That’s why everyone’s annoyed at the character.
Your fate is clear #CorrinClub #CCC #CorrinTopTier
Let’s goo Corrin back!
This might actually be one of the greatest ultimate sets of all time
No it's not lol
I don’t think so
GGs! MKLEO the GOAT
Pin just feels diff when compared to other 2 frames.
Joker can deal with this... sonic takes very long to kill which can lead to multiple Arsen in 1 stock making dangerous for sonic to not kill him early...
Leo - * spawns ,does one missed up air
Sonix- " hmm weak !
* does a 0 to 100 .
bro i love leo but gah damn sonix cannot catch a break😭 you gon get to the top soon tho mah boi keep workin😤🫡
It's better for the game if Sonix just keeps hitting grands and then losing, few people in the community actually wanna see the guy win.
It's tragic but true, viewership for sonix games revolved around wanting to see him lose. I'm no exception honestly, I do not like watching Sonix play, I don't hate the guy but I hate his playstyle and I love to see him lose.
at least hes already got a major win in CEO, no one can take that away from him