British guitarist reacts to Carlos Montoya's INSANE SHRED Flamenco style!
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Tonight I'm looking at some crazy flamenco technique by Carlos Montoya back in 1959!
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I went to his concert in Houston in 1965 and have never heard a better guitarist. And while driving home after the concert I turned on my car radio and heard the Beatles for the very first time. What an exciting night that was! I was blown away by Carlos and the Beatles.
When I first saw Montoya, Romero, Sabicas and Segovia I began studying classical and flamenco. I have not played a rock song since.
Same story here haha!
Played electronic for 3 years since I noticed Flamenco shreds is like magic,couldn't stop learning that till today 4 years later all I do is Flamenco,just amazing
@@zemach4422 Flamenco and rock should be melded together ! Flamenrock.,yeah . Hey ,I like the sound of that ,FLAMENROCK.
Why is it called Flamenco?
@@marcdemell5976nobody knows for sure the origins of the name.
@@marcdemell5976it doesn’t really match well rhythmically and scale wise. I play both. The only fusion I could see is Buleria and Punk 😅
fil, did you notice the most mind blowing thing about montoya?
all his strings are WOUND STRINGS
another thing to know about carlos montoya is that hes generally looked down at by the flamenco purists who exalt sabicas, he didnt hold to the traditional rhythmic concepts "the compas" in other words he was too radical
but heres the fun part, sabicas was a huge fan of carlos (they both lived in new york)
and sabicas lifted this thing carlos did where he made the guitar sound like military drums
THEN , segovia hears sabicas do this and HE lifts that gimmick from sabicas,
now segovia commissions composers to put that into pieces written for him
so thats how lowly carlos montoya,made a mark on the classical repertoire
btw, raymon montoya, the greatest flamenco player of the previous generation. was carlos's uncle and HE REFUSED TO TEACH CARLOS, apparently he could tell he was going to be trouble
if you want to get an even better look at montoyas right hand technique
take a look at this ua-cam.com/video/cv2Fyjk0GGM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RareGuitarVC
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@@wingsofpegasus did you know he shined his head to a brilliant full on glossy glow with bees wax?
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The original Tony Iommi of the flamenco guitar
The"Purists"who look down on him were always just jealous of his full on scary legato playing and thunderous rasgueados. Unfortunately, many novice guitarists are like bitchy little girls, all too quick to use the old psychological defense mechanism of finding some angle to bash the player who can do something they can't.
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Actually the 'drum' effect on the guitar goes back earlier to at least the 19th century! Tarrega composed a piece called 'Variations on the Gran Jota ' in which he used that drum effect. Sabicas played a version of that piece. He didn't learn it from Carlos!
Carlos Montoya usually did "exhibition shredding videos", Ramon Montoya was, IMHO, a really great 30's flamenco guitar master and was highly respected (and emulated) by later masters like Sabicas, Paco De Lucia and many others. There's a lot more to flamenco guitar than "shredding". Thanks Fil, for exposing guitar lovers to the many genres of guitar music and the many great artists. Yay You Tube.
I saw him in Vancouver, around 1984. I still cry listening to his genius. I wouldn't describe his playing as "shredding".
I was fortunate to see Carlos Montoya at age 16 in 1966 at the Cleveland Orchestra Hall. I was spellbound! You could only focus on one hand at a time. So much to see and so much to miss.
I again saw him 3 years later at Michigan State U. Again I just could not see the whole, one hand or the other. Only in video can you go back and see it time and again until you can piece it all together and REALLY see the greatness there.
I don’t usually listen to this type of music,but this guy is amazing.
some names you'd want to check for amusement and fascination:
Vicente Amigo, Antonio Rey, Jose Manuel Leon, Gerardo Nunez
E. H. also paco de lucia
@@riodelucia11 you forgot sabicas
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It's truly amazing what can be created by a man with a quitar.
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I had the privilege of attending "An evening with Carlos Montoya" in the late 70's. I learned a couple things about the Master most people aren't aware of. He doesn't play Flamenco Guitar, Montoya made a point of clarifying that himself. He plays the Basque music of his birthplace in the Pyrenees Mountains between Spain & France. Also, when I closed my eyes listening to the Master play, I realized Carlos Montoya was born with a birth defect. With each song it became more & more obvious the man was born with at least 12 fingers on each hand.
Heard him play live in a concert at University of Texas at Austin Hogg Auditorium, around 1979 - some 20 years after this recording. He did a combination of Flamenco and classical pieces. He was outstanding 20 years later than this performance in 1959. I feel as much privilege in seeing Montoya play live as I do in seeing Cream play live in Dallas in 1968. Thanks for this, 4 years later!
I always remember the phrase “ precision builds speed, speed doesn’t build precision “. Carlos Montoya is the master of this.
That was amazing. the muscle memory and then being able to switch it, truly an exceptional ability/talent.
Yeah it's crazy!
It's nice you appreciate true musicianship and incredible talent
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In the early 1970s, the drama and music departments of several San Francisco high-schools all went for a special performance by Carlos Montoya. Picture it...a theater filled with rowdy, rock-n-roll loving teenagers, and this little old man comes out, sits down, and begins to play...and there wasn't a sound from any of us. He never looked up, other than a quick glance when we applauded...it was as if he was just waiting for us to shut up so he could play some more. An incredible performance, and, very happy to see him on your channel!
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Lucky bunch of kids, to say the least! And they were right to have their minds blown.
Love seeing you highlight Flamenco. What incredible skill it takes.
I don't have a huge Flamenco influence in my life, but videos like this are why I love listening to street performers! As long as what they're playing sounds really good and really cool, I'll give them a listen. This guy, I would listen to all day!
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Yes and after watching this video, I’m going to listen to Carlos all day. I have twenty some vinyl lps by the man that I found at thrift shops over the years, usually for a dollar. Remarkably, all of the records themselves are close to mint and I believe that’s because the previous owners revered the music, not because the records sat unplayed. What amazing talent the man had! Thanks for another great video, Fil. Rock!
I met Carlos after a show with orchestra in 1979 or 80. I was about 18 and a classical/flamenco fan. He signed my Guitar player magazine article on him. He was very kind to take a few minutes to encourage a teen guitarist.
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I love watching a Master at work ! Total control , dynamics , with almost no noticeble effort !Amazing !
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Hey, hello from the past.
Take a look to Sabicas, another big master flamenco guitarrist.
Un saludo.
Carlos Montoya used to be very famous, and not so much anymore, even though he deserves to be. Thank you for giving him this attention. (I met him once - at a little airport in Michigan’s UP.)
My face just melted into my shoes. What a gift. Thank you!
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I saw Carlos play in a theater around 1979. When he dug in you would think the guitar was going to blow up like a bomb.
Amazing. The guy isn’t a guitarist. He is an artist. Wow. Great video Fil. That was a pleasure to watch.
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I frankly can't understand how anyone can be that good.
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I have never seen someone play at this kind of speed that could be wreckless in lesser hands that is so controlled. The first piece was at a breakneck speed but with the melody still at the forefront. I've never heard someone play with such speed and retain the beauty of the melody. Thank you again Fil for your wonderful analysis. Cheers.
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Face melted! I cry when I hear this & can only strum few of these chords! Malaga! He's a freak..(in a good way!)
Hahahah ,Pegasus again ! I was searching for Montoya and low and behold here you are again,your all over the place.I am an amateur drummer but I also love the guitar .HalleluYAH ! Your awesome Wings.
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@@wingsofpegasus Love your passion for music ! Music can heal the soul!
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Oh my , he's captivated the whole audience !
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Well, you don’t see that every day, do you?
Thanks Fil, made my day.
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"Machine gunning those notes", indeed -- WOW or ¡Vaya! as one might say, in Spanish! Montoya's doing a Paso Dóble on those strings -- simply beautiful! Clean bar chords, indeed -- an absolute clean sweep!...
Thank you, Fil -- what an incredible work of love you offer, to an audience who may never have heard of such historic Musicians like Carlos Montoya! Your love of music shines in every aspect of your being when you review your fellow players -- you radiate, Fil and that is inspiring!
My musical journey continues... From Harlem, New York -- rock!✌🏼💖🎶🎵
Great comment and I couldn’t agree more, Tabitha!
God Fil that’s insane! I’ve never seen him before, where have I been!! God this guy is magical he makes it look so effortless !! Brilliant vid Fil he is sensational!!😮😮😮👌👌👌👌
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I first learned of Carlos back about 30 + years ago. My mother had a cassette of him, she was a big classical music fan. It was great timing because I was about 13 then and just beginning to play guitar myself. you are right, this man had his technique down. Thanks for another great post !
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I'm just so happy that you brought another great Flamenco player to this channel, I can only speak for myself but Flamenco I have loved for a long long time! You should watch sometime the videos of the modern Flamenco players where they have a flamenco dancer, the women that can dance this style are simply amazing♡It is also one hell of a workout i've been told!
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Montoya had a wonderful mind when it came to playing .
Carlos was a magician of guitar
Gracias por este video, siempre es interesante conocer otros puntos de vista.Viva España y su música!!!
My friend, a person who likes the guitar cannot leave this world without coming to Andalusia and listening to the flamenco guitar live and if it is accompanying a better flamenco singer, both singer and guitarist interpenetrate to bring the performance to a successful end. . Although it is not necessary that everything is prepared, where there is a guitar at any time the goblin can jump, I am going to put several videos for you to understand. Like a waitress in a restaurant stops working and starts singing when she sees a guitar, a man playing the guitar in the street and a passerby stops to sing to the guitar or a lady starts dancing. It is great to see how art passes from father to son and is a means of expression and protest. This has happened since 1600 or so. ua-cam.com/video/lLXdbSQnBL4/v-deo.html - ttps: //ua-cam.com/video/Uyzy6q_ZBoQ/v-deo.html - ua-cam.com/video/D79XlQXnIXw/v-deo.html or a protest in a bank about the high interest of mortgages youtu.be/ iop2b3oq1O0 - or protest in the Andalusian parliament singing about abuses and mismanagement. ua-cam.com/video/KxHBWmVRB8A/v-deo.html
Watching his right hand reminds me of videos of hummingbirds hovering with such fast wingbeats they film as a blur. Thanks for your insights and tremendous variety of guitar players!
Thanks Marcia!
Breathtaking technique and so passionate. All the embellishment never obscured the melody.
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I saw Carlos live at the HIC in Hawaii around 1970. He closed out the concert with some popular tunes and St. Louis Blues. Nice!
FIL Every DAY Your Videos Are AMAZING
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I’ll second that! Best channel on UA-cam!
My mother actually went and saw this man in concert once back in the 1970's. She loved this guys playing and had several of his vinyl records.
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Another good one Fil! Carlos is a influence on many of the Legends we know like John McLaughlin Al Di Meola Paco de Lucia and even Steve Howe from yes just to name a few.
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Great to see you including Flamenco masters here!
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Great stuff, always look forward to your next video.
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It's great that you're discovering the world of flamenco and opening up its history to your viewers. There are a lot of amazing players to be discovered. (Matter of fact on my own playlist of favorites I've researched some fine footage you might want to look at by Juan Serrano, Tomatito, Manolo Sanlucar, and of course, Paco de Lucia.) And btw, thanks for the info that Carlos was Ramon's son. I'd always suspected they were related.
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this guy is the best guy to show a beginner to get him into it.
Masterful performance! Total independence left and right hand! A virtuoso!
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So beautiful this is why the guitar was created. Bravo to him and to you for bringing this
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I have a basic nylon guitar signed by him after a concert back in the 70’s, he was nice enough to play it and sign it after a long tiring concert! this guitar will never leave my collection.
mais oui mon ami.
Shredding without electronics. Damn right!
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Fantastic! I gave up on playing flamenco a long time ago. Beyond my ability for sure.
He tunes down and uses a capo to get that unique sound... you hear those chromatic fluid lines while he changes the root note🤯 He captures the essence of Spain brilliantly🤟🏻
Amen!
Saw him live around 77' in a little free concert at college. Jaw dropping, still is.
All the best for you and your beloved ones, love from Spain.
Edward Van Halen was on a "Carlos Montoya" bend when he was young and then going into his early career. You can hear the influence on "Spanish Fly", but more so on "Little Guitars (Intro)". He loved the flamenco guitar and wanted to "cheat" the sound as Van Halen was famous for. He wanted a flamenco sound out of a normal 6 string.
I remember reading an interview from the early 80s about when VH were in the studio recording Diver Down. He had a famous guitarist... I think it was Steve Lukather of Toto (who were in the same studio recording too) sit down and listen to some of the tracks off of Diver Down. One was the Intro to Little Guitars. Steve (?) assumed it was an overdub until Edward showed him by playing it for him in the sound booth. Steve (?) was impressed that Edward had taken the time to tweak and cheat a flamenco riff like he did.
Got an early 60's I think 1962 of him playing live recorded on vinyl. Here, Nobody's dancing. Just standing there, lookin,
listening. There lies the rub. This is elevated stuff.
he's not thinking about what he's doing, he's simply doing. The creativity is spontaneous and beautiful. very much Zen tunes :)
I saw him live at the Saroyan Theatre in Fresno, CA., in 1969. Truly in a league by himself.
That was a treat. Thank you Fil.
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I love listening to a flamenco player!
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My first love is the grateful dead but I also loves me some flamenco! Thanks Fil!
Absolutely Awesome !
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Yeah aren’t these guys fantastic!, Carlos, I was just listening to Paco de Lucia and after I happened on your video, and watching these guys play is like WOW and beyond, oh yeah that right hand, everything is utilized, the right hand is so under utilized in pop music, but not this style, Flamenco is very right hand intensive, so beautiful, the mechanics, the way it works and the amazing musical variations achieved. I love this stuff. I took a classical guita class after I got off the road playing in a band for 3 years at college as an elective and got a B, which is good, but these guys can’t be graded, true masters, they set the bar. I’m so inspired to play this style, not on their level, but try to get as close as I can, cause my right hand is now my good hand, due to getting old ya know,was always left handed, now I see an opportunity to develop the right hand a little, still a lot of work w both hands actually, what the hell am I thinking, yeah, the sink, the gut string, totally different than electric, acoustic..etc distinct, Flamenco very distinctive, unique, but the greatest way to use a guitar to its maximum ability as an instrument
Hey Fil, I love your videos -- you obviously appreciate all styles of guitar, and your open minded takes on all these great players is really appreciated .. Whether it's rock, flamenco, country, metal, jazz - it's all guitar, and there is nothing like the guitar ... I don't like when walls are set up and certain styles are pitted against each other ... Not sure what I'd do without the guitar - it's all good and I can learn something from anybody, any style THANKS !!!
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You have the perfect approach, Lucas! Art has no boundaries. Right on, man!!
This jogs my memory. I had aunts that danced and played Flamengo. I couldn't get the hang of the castanets. This was a magnificant video!
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Speechless...
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Chills!
Beautiful tremolo picking Fil. The angle of his guitar gives him the pick angle to do essentially economy picking. But I do have to say some players can pick each of the five fingers independently at different speeds. Myself after a few years can only use three fingers independently. Why? It's hard to do and focused long enough plus tons and tons of practice. Btw I do practice tons sometimes 6 hours a day. And I'm up to just three. But can use all 5 for most songs. While most flamenco songs are playable for everyone not everyone is for those fast paced numbers. Unless you play fewer notes. Also triplets are attainable by all, as is most techniques. Again Fil brilliant analysis. I'm glad the footage was a bit shoddy. But it makes one listen and picture the speed in ones head. I'm glad you take the time and effort to take these vids to bits for everyone to understand what they are listening to.
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It is unbelievable just how good people can get,
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I often hear myself saying those exact words!
I heard of Carlos Montoya music when I was in oriental islands when I was in the military & seen a student play the flamingo guitar at a music theater. He was very good, so if bought one of C. Montoya’s albums & still l have it. Muchas gracias.
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Interesting how he holds his guitar. Great video 👍😎 so many amazing musicians of that era and before.
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dude because of you i'm right now google CARLOS MONTOYA flamenco guitarrist!!! ajajajajajaj thanks bro
carlos mckay Loads of Carlos vids on YT👍
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He was stunning, those that like it look up Pepe Romiero and Diaz. By the way the Montoya family are famous for guitar, dancing and the chant.
I don't play an instrument. So this guy blows me away bro.
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I typed in Ravi Shankar, and got Montoya ! Well, I like him, I got interested in him in the eighties, or late seventies. By then, alas, I saw lots of Montoya records at a second hand book store, and in other such places. He is, of course, on my guitarists play list, along with a lot of other great, and a lot of unknown (to us ) guitarist worth hearing.
Wow!!! I don’t play but I appreciate & him I can truly appreciate.
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Did they have nylon in 1959? I once saw him in person, and I can say the blur was the same without a camera. He could make the instrument sound like a horn or a drum.
Montoya is my very favorite. Liona Boyd does an excellent introspective Malaguena, by the way.
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This guy would win at dueling banjos every time!
Just goes to show, you don't have to play rock to be able to run a neck. Smokin hot dude! Great post!
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I start off taking lessons with 74 Garcia and I played the Malaguena and whatnot but then I went into drums. I still have it brand new. Never been in a dry condition always in the case and humid not a blemish on it. It's a Sherry brener which on the website for the same guitar grade number one February 1974 $3,000 and I can't get nobody who plays in San Diego the blue book is the same price my dad bought it for me when I was a kid $450. I'm not going going for that. yeah Carlos Montoya the professor on the Flamenco and classical guitar as Neil peart is the professor on the drum kit. Notice when Carlos plays no matter how fast or whatever song there's no finger misplacement twang on the left hand or the right for that matter especially when he's doing real life shows and Studio. So people who don't have the ear for the way he is subtle and all the components involved, they're going to think that the person that's faster and slapping-pick tone and all that stuff are more attractive. Like Flea on the bass compared to Steve Harris for Iron Maiden.
Wow! Awesome playing. I might never see some of these players if I wasn't subscribed to u. Thanks!
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This is Allan Bloom on guitar. He was a famous guitar student of his master, Leo Strauss. Both Allan and Leo taught at the Universe of Chicago and they taught political science classes along with guitar. They are usually known for their political philosophy but they excelled at the guitar. Their big rival was Martin Heidegger also a mean guitarist who taught philosophy in Nazi Germany.
WHAT A FANTASTIC PLAYER . SIMPLY AMAZING
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Fil, hello from South Carolina. Another great video, thanks. 👍
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Incredible!
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According to the Wikipedia articles, Ramon was actually his uncle and, according to legend, refused to show young Carlos anything. This might have compelled Carlos to practice harder. When they play rasgeos in Andalucia the right hand seems to disappear in live play. Aside: I did not get musical training while growing up and I could listen to Phil explaining, and just "rapping," about music for hours. Good channel. 🎼🎵🎶🎸
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Sometime in the 1960s my dad bought a copy of Montoya's "Spontaneous Flamenco" album on the ABC-Paramount label.
It's a mess now, but I still have it, and I consider it one of the most important records I've ever heard.
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He's totally playing to that blonde!
Wow! I think the last time my jaw dropped when someone played a guitar was over 25 years ago! Johhny Winter was on stage. This guy was incredible!👍😎🎸🎶
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In my opinion, Carlos Montoya is a best guitarist to ever play thus far. He is self taught and doesn't now how to read sheet music. Check out 'Rare Flamenco Guitar video, Carlos Montoya, Farruca.' One camara is set up to see his right hand hitting the strings, Incredible. The technique of hitting the bottom E string and playing the top base notes with the thumb is called, Tremelo (sp,) making one guitar sound like two guitars.
Great video Fil,thoroughly entertaining.
Over the years I've had the pleasure to know a couple of great Classical/Flamenco players. To play this style of guitar requires an almost fanatical/religious dedication to play at any kind of performance level. There are however 2 sides to every coin. While I've always been awestruck with this type of playing an accomplished Classical player I know is equally awestruck when he watches a good Blues Guitarist improvisation through an entire song!
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I heard they were larning to play so blistering fast back in the 40s was to fit a 10 mintue song on a 3 minute record with out cutting anything out. also to try and keep up with Carmen amaya of course.
Wow,1959 was the year I was born. Music was more diverse back then
The guitar Montoya is playing is a flamenco guitar not a classical guitar. The main differences between the two are that flamenco guitars are made of denser woods, have slimmer sides, are lighter in weight, and have strings that are lower in action. Many flamenco guitars also have a golpeador which is Spanish for "hitter" which has to do with a common technique in flamenco guitar called golpe which refers to a "hit" and it's where they "hit" the body of the guitar with the nails of their middle and ring finger on their right hand. So the golpeador protects the guitar from being damaged by the "hitting" of the guitar player.
Simply incredible! I did notice one very small and quick "clam" which proves he was actually human. Holy hamburger, thanks for posting this video!
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I met him after a concert. He was delightful, curious, humble and unpretentious.
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Haha I somehow read the tittle as Coco Montaya's INSANE SHRED but I wasnt disappointed :) The thing that struck me was how still he kept his picking hand, fantastic technique.
It did though make me think that you might like to look at the guitarists that have come through the school of John Mayalls Bluesbreakers not only Coco Montaya but Eric Clapton, Peter Green, Walter Trout, Harvey Mandel, Buddy Whittington, the list is almost endless and all fantastic blues or blues rock guitarists.
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Yeah, Walter Trout RULES!!!
My fav flamenco player then Sabicas
I saw him play live once. I think he was about 80 years old. He was still incredible.
Can you do a segment soon on Otmar Liebert the Noveau Flamenco guitarist from Brazil ?
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