I agree, Tim does love the Critical Text. It is Tim's heart for the Bible, his love for the Lord and for people that really drew me to his channel. I love that the book is written to be easily understood. I hope this is a quality Tim won't lose in his other books moving forward. Though I am curious to know if his next book will be nonfiction like this one.
I agree with you Tim about the Message “translation.” I’m not a fan of it, and is where Tim Wildsmith and I disagree as well. I’m looking forward to reading my copy when it gets here in a couple weeks!
Saw his video and have not read the book. So thanks for the video. I have the KJV, Revised, NASB, ESV, JW Bible, and my everyday Bible the ISR Scriptures. Also the Hebrew Massoretic text.
I plan to read this. While admitting that I’m not a Greek scholar myself I use the NIV as my main translation, but I fully intend to buy a word for word translation to go along with it. Probably the ESV and the NKJV. Both you and Tim Wildsmith make great content!
I still have my NIV 84 Study! It's amazing how the print has shrunk. I've been mainly an ESV girl for years. But lately, SOME GUY on the internet has been praising the NKJV. I was needing a compact for on the go, so I tried the "baby" Macleran. I was amazed at how much clearer it was for me than my beloved (and now donated) ESV Large Print Compact, even though the font is smaller! I even just got the NKJV Study (regular, not the new full color) and am enjoying it as well. The study notes are small, but clear. I've never had good eyesight, but now that I'm mid 50s it's becoming more of an issue. I've had to switch things around lately. I'm doing my best to keep these in pristine condition so that if/when I have to move to GINORMOUS PRINT I can find a new home for them. We are so blessed in the English speaking world to have so many options.
@ I had to go away from a personal size study Bible for that reason, I couldn’t read the print anymore. No offense to the owner of this channel but I’m sticking with Translations based on the critical text. Nothing but love to those who disagree however.
@@fnjesusfreak Excellent! I know that everything can't work for everyone. But hopefully things will be developed to help the most people possible. Thank God also for audio, for those who cannot read at all. We are blessed with many options. I am thankful.
I've been reading the MEV for the past couple of years (don't have the updated version yet) and I do like it, but still undecided on how MUCH I like it 🤣
I wonder how this book compares to other books about Bible translations like... 🤔 * How to Choose a Bible Translation for All Its Worth (Fee & Strauss) * 40 Questions about Bible Translation (Strauss) * One Bible, Many Versions (Brunn)
@anickelsworthbiblereviews It is amazing! I have read the Fee book and it's my favorite. I also bought the Strauss book 40 Questions and it should be great too. Both Fee and Strauss are godly men and top notch scholars who know the original biblical languages especially Koine Greek. I guess I just wonder if Wildsmith's book is worth buying and reading if I've already got Fee and Strauss. 🤔
Thank you for sharing this video Tim. I will remember the Textus Receptus and the Critical text. I would be curious to know what you think of Dr. Erwin Lutzer's book: Seven Reasons to Trust the Bible. We are covering this book and the study guide in our Sunday School class.
Would you happen to have any single resource you find as the absolute best for an in-depth study of the original manuscripts and their source documents? I've always been a fan of the TR and I've read many books about the verses emitted in the newer translations that I don't always agree with. But I would love to do a deeper dive if there was any book or resource you would recommend?
I have this book on pre-order. One question about the translation spectrum though. How come many of them (some do) don’t include the ASV on the word-for-word end of it?
Do you think this book would help me in interpreting the Bible? I feel as though some things about translations might but others like historical information would just be useless information for me.
Maybe a specific type of study Bible would be more helpful? The English speaking world is spoiled with so many options. It can actually be overwhelming. It really depends on what type of information you're seeking.
@@michaelsayad5085 I would say whatever knowledge you can gain would be beneficial. Maybe Tim's book would be helpful. It just seemed like that was not the type of information you were seeking/needing. Maybe I misunderstood something. I am just not sure what type of information you are seeking.
I prefer the original MEV to the update. Many words were unnecessarily changed. “Tribulation” changed to “distress” or “persecution”, “rooster” changed to “cock”
I prefer the Critical Text. That said, I love the NKJV as well as my got-to ESV. I also like the NASB and LSB. I recently got my New Jerusalem Bible! I ordered it after I saw your vid on it. It's really sweet! I appreciate both you and Wildsmith quite a bit. I'd imagine you both take fire from the nastier parts KJV Only crowd but that seems to go with the territory these days.
With the NLT in existence I would love to see The Message die off and stop being printed. The NLT offers a simple to understand translation that is far superior to the silly language and incorrect renderings that are common to The Message. We don’t even allow The Message paraphrase in our church library and over the years I have thrown out multiple copies that I have come across in my life.
I admit I... shredded mine. And by hand. Paper shredder is broken/clogged. Let me tell you, my hands were sore! It's not my best moment. But I was clearing out stuff in the house I just did not know what to do with it!
I prefer the critical text over the TR but I love them both. I’m a fan of a supernatural (Heiser-ish) reading of the Bible. The TR seems to lean away from supernatural views. One example would be Deuteronomy 32:8
Looks like he skipped every Catholic specific translation, so I’ll probably skip his book. Edit: I probably phrased this poorly, what I meant was that I am Catholic and Tim (the author) most definitely prefers Protestant Bibles, and pretty much kept the Catholic Bibles in a chapter on their own, essentially separating them from the main story into more of a side quest. That said, I’m not the intended audience for this book, as someone who has studied the Bible, its origins and textual “traditions”.
@@Yesica1993 what I mean is that in his Spectrum (03:04 in this video), which includes all of Tim’s (the author) preferred translations (unless this graphic is separate from the book?), and what is frustrating is clearly the Catholic Bibles are a side-quest and not part of the main-story contained in this book. I understand the author is Protestant, although friendly to Catholics, but I’ll probably skip this book.
@anickelsworthbiblereviews says the true history of the critical texts. They thought the true Greek manuscripts were wrong, so they formed manuscripts and called them the critical texts
If you’re going to seriously study this compilation of various myths and legends you should really become proficient in Hebrew and Greek if not whatever translation is most readable for you will work just fine.
Looking forward to this, Tim!
Almost a dime's worth. Great review. I am excited to hear that it is kept simple. The world needs more simple explanations!
Tim talks Tim ❤
Great review. Preordered when he announced it. Looking forward to reading it.
I agree, Tim does love the Critical Text. It is Tim's heart for the Bible, his love for the Lord and for people that really drew me to his channel. I love that the book is written to be easily understood. I hope this is a quality Tim won't lose in his other books moving forward. Though I am curious to know if his next book will be nonfiction like this one.
Waiting with excitement for my preorder copy
Thanks for the terrific overview and critique of this new book. Now, I'm really looking forward to having my own copy to read!
Tim, thanks for reviewing his book. You do a great job of any review that I have listened to.
I agree with you Tim about the Message “translation.” I’m not a fan of it, and is where Tim Wildsmith and I disagree as well. I’m looking forward to reading my copy when it gets here in a couple weeks!
Very well presented! Thx!
Nice review, Tim! Thank you!
Saw his video and have not read the book. So thanks for the video. I have the KJV, Revised, NASB, ESV, JW Bible, and my everyday Bible the ISR Scriptures. Also the Hebrew Massoretic text.
I plan to read this. While admitting that I’m not a Greek scholar myself I use the NIV as my main translation, but I fully intend to buy a word for word translation to go along with it. Probably the ESV and the NKJV. Both you and Tim Wildsmith make great content!
I still have my NIV 84 Study! It's amazing how the print has shrunk. I've been mainly an ESV girl for years. But lately, SOME GUY on the internet has been praising the NKJV. I was needing a compact for on the go, so I tried the "baby" Macleran. I was amazed at how much clearer it was for me than my beloved (and now donated) ESV Large Print Compact, even though the font is smaller! I even just got the NKJV Study (regular, not the new full color) and am enjoying it as well. The study notes are small, but clear. I've never had good eyesight, but now that I'm mid 50s it's becoming more of an issue. I've had to switch things around lately. I'm doing my best to keep these in pristine condition so that if/when I have to move to GINORMOUS PRINT I can find a new home for them. We are so blessed in the English speaking world to have so many options.
@ I had to go away from a personal size study Bible for that reason, I couldn’t read the print anymore. No offense to the owner of this channel but I’m sticking with Translations based on the critical text. Nothing but love to those who disagree however.
@@Yesica1993 Props to Harper-Collins, Tyndale, Schuyler and Holman! They have all switched to using well-designed, easy-to-read fonts from 2K Denmark.
@@fnjesusfreak Excellent! I know that everything can't work for everyone. But hopefully things will be developed to help the most people possible. Thank God also for audio, for those who cannot read at all. We are blessed with many options. I am thankful.
Great review. Thanks!
I've been reading the MEV for the past couple of years (don't have the updated version yet) and I do like it, but still undecided on how MUCH I like it 🤣
I wonder how this book compares to other books about Bible translations like... 🤔
* How to Choose a Bible Translation for All Its Worth (Fee & Strauss)
* 40 Questions about Bible Translation (Strauss)
* One Bible, Many Versions (Brunn)
Not sure. I’ve heard the one from Fee is amazing.
@anickelsworthbiblereviews It is amazing! I have read the Fee book and it's my favorite. I also bought the Strauss book 40 Questions and it should be great too. Both Fee and Strauss are godly men and top notch scholars who know the original biblical languages especially Koine Greek. I guess I just wonder if Wildsmith's book is worth buying and reading if I've already got Fee and Strauss. 🤔
Can’t wait to get it!
Thank you for sharing this video Tim. I will remember the Textus Receptus and the Critical text. I would be curious to know what you think of Dr. Erwin Lutzer's book: Seven Reasons to Trust the Bible. We are covering this book and the study guide in our Sunday School class.
Do you know of any translatons that use the Septuagint for the OT and the Textus Receptus for the NT?
The Orthodox Study Bible is the closest thing.
I can't wait to read this book. I have mine pre-ordered. Does Tim mention the LSB as an update to the NASB '95.
Yes.
Would you happen to have any single resource you find as the absolute best for an in-depth study of the original manuscripts and their source documents? I've always been a fan of the TR and I've read many books about the verses emitted in the newer translations that I don't always agree with. But I would love to do a deeper dive if there was any book or resource you would recommend?
I’m sure it’s out there but I’ve not found it.
@@anickelsworthbiblereviews how about just a good book or place to start with? haha
I have this book on pre-order. One question about the translation spectrum though. How come many of them (some do) don’t include the ASV on the word-for-word end of it?
I’ve not seen one that doesn’t.
@ the one shown in this video doesn’t include it.
And even the RSV for that matter too
Do you think this book would help me in interpreting the Bible? I feel as though some things about translations might but others like historical information would just be useless information for me.
Its design is not really to assist in interpreting the Bible, but more understanding translations and how they work.
Maybe a specific type of study Bible would be more helpful? The English speaking world is spoiled with so many options. It can actually be overwhelming. It really depends on what type of information you're seeking.
@@Yesica1993 True, but I was wondering in my question whether or not a deep understanding of translations and translation philosophy would help also.
@@michaelsayad5085 I would say whatever knowledge you can gain would be beneficial. Maybe Tim's book would be helpful. It just seemed like that was not the type of information you were seeking/needing. Maybe I misunderstood something. I am just not sure what type of information you are seeking.
Does your World English Bible use “Yahweh”? And, if so, where can you buy that edition?
Yes. It can be purchased through Broken Yoke Publishers.
I prefer the original MEV to the update. Many words were unnecessarily changed. “Tribulation” changed to “distress” or “persecution”, “rooster” changed to “cock”
Everything is a translation…doesn’t matter how you further “classify” it.
Ok
Are you able to tell me all 15 translations you have read through completely?
I’ve made videos on it.
The New English Translation of the Septuagint is the best !
I prefer the Critical Text. That said, I love the NKJV as well as my got-to ESV. I also like the NASB and LSB. I recently got my New Jerusalem Bible! I ordered it after I saw your vid on it. It's really sweet! I appreciate both you and Wildsmith quite a bit. I'd imagine you both take fire from the nastier parts KJV Only crowd but that seems to go with the territory these days.
They take shots, but they always miss. They are like the stormtroopers of the Bibleverse!
TR rules
With the NLT in existence I would love to see The Message die off and stop being printed. The NLT offers a simple to understand translation that is far superior to the silly language and incorrect renderings that are common to The Message. We don’t even allow The Message paraphrase in our church library and over the years I have thrown out multiple copies that I have come across in my life.
I admit I... shredded mine. And by hand. Paper shredder is broken/clogged. Let me tell you, my hands were sore! It's not my best moment. But I was clearing out stuff in the house I just did not know what to do with it!
More like dollars worth today.
I prefer the critical text over the TR but I love them both. I’m a fan of a supernatural (Heiser-ish) reading of the Bible. The TR seems to lean away from supernatural views. One example would be Deuteronomy 32:8
That has nothing to do with the critical text. That’s a New Testament manuscript.
@@anickelsworthbiblereviews sorry. You are absolutely correct! That’s the MT difference.
Looks like he skipped every Catholic specific translation, so I’ll probably skip his book.
Edit: I probably phrased this poorly, what I meant was that I am Catholic and Tim (the author) most definitely prefers Protestant Bibles, and pretty much kept the Catholic Bibles in a chapter on their own, essentially separating them from the main story into more of a side quest.
That said, I’m not the intended audience for this book, as someone who has studied the Bible, its origins and textual “traditions”.
There is a chapter dedicated to Catholic translations.
EXACTLY!
Looks like you "skipped" watching this video, since he mentions around 5:00 that there are Catholic Bibles covered in the book.
@@Yesica1993 what I mean is that in his Spectrum (03:04 in this video), which includes all of Tim’s (the author) preferred translations (unless this graphic is separate from the book?), and what is frustrating is clearly the Catholic Bibles are a side-quest and not part of the main-story contained in this book.
I understand the author is Protestant, although friendly to Catholics, but I’ll probably skip this book.
@@FraterSpiritus EXACTLY !
I’m not a fan of the critical text.
I wouldn't buy anything that comes from the critical texts because its erroneous.
Says you?
@anickelsworthbiblereviews says the true history of the critical texts. They thought the true Greek manuscripts were wrong, so they formed manuscripts and called them the critical texts
@@AlanHales-k6iThat’s factually incorrect. Stop bearing false witness
@jonasaras it is correct. Check the history.
All you have to do is read modern to see how erroneous they are.
If you’re going to seriously study this compilation of various myths and legends you should really become proficient in Hebrew and Greek if not whatever translation is most readable for you will work just fine.
If you’re going to watch videos about bibles, that tells me you’re interested in the God represented in it.
What, "compilation of various myths and legends", was he talking about? I must have missed it. Give the time stamp.