Asgard True Ragnarok Isu Ending Assassins Creed Valhalla
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Yes, the lore could be really clusterfucked and maybe some of the mystery is gone but this ending plot was really really clever
not as much as the main [Flower Game], than this assassin's creed [Flower] verse.
Exactly. You can criticize Valhalla all you want. I'll acknowledge every criticism. But the end game blew my fucking mind.
I love all of this ISU stuff. It can get confusing sometimes, but the Precursor stuff was always the most interesting part of AC games and I'm super happy to see it get so much focus in the newer games
@@waspywasp451 oh definitely yeah I agree it’s very interesting and very intriguing I might add
@@waspywasp451 its interesting to see this take as every Assasin’s Creed gameplay i’ve seen (been watching a lot of AC3,4, and Rogue have people say just how far from “Assassin’s” AC has gone. But i like the newer games for the things that you just mentioned. Im glad that their finally going way in depth vs the little bits here and there we received
So basically the events of the Odin’s missions are canon, but it aesthetics change related to Eivor’s cognition?
The truth is that all happened in the modern Isu Utopia.
Is it like that? So cool!
Yes, that's what happens when you are trippin' balls cuz lack of hardware to access your DNA mapping for memories. Also notice how less realistic the Valhalla simulation looks like when entering it was Layla vs Eivor, since Layla knows what computer simulations are, so it looks more like high-quality VR stuff than actual real graphics, even when discounting the corruption over the millennia to the hardware/software parts, it looks flatter than IRL 3D is at parts
Wouldn’t it be cool for the story to retold in actual isu modern times.
i would assume Eivor (at first for the very least) could not wrap his/her head around Isu stuff and "asgarded" in his/her mind what he/she was experiencing
2 years late, but its not 100% canon. Odin tweaks the memories both so that Eivor can understand them better and also to gain sympathy from him. Odin ultimately wants to take control from Eivor and is using these visions to that end.
it was literally the same concept when kassandra went to atlantis
We can see tension between the Isu pantheons. The Norse pantheon sought their own way to cheat the Catastrophe, stealing it from the Greek/Roman pantheon.
“Jotun” seems to be a catch-all term for both the other pantheons and the rebel humans and human/Isu hybrids.
The Celtic pantheon is teased with the Morrigan, their Barracks and Excalibur, but we don’t know a lot about them yet.
Technically thor will steal Zeus's thunder
All the same species, just different races and ethnic groups like us humans have. You are correct though. From the Norse eyes, the Aesir called the Greeks the Jotun or Jotnar. Hence why Enlil/Zeus/Tinia/Jupiter/Indra plays Suttungr instead of Thor. It gets confusing when piecing together a multi layer puzzle full of manipulation, mistranslation, misinformation and disinformation. You should know however, that this is as clear cut of ‘unofficial’ truth we can get. What we are being taught in this game, comes directly from the real Assassins themselves. Ubisoft is being coached by the AKDN which is the front group for the Nizari Ismaili who are the Assassins. Its led by the Aga Khan, who is the descendent of Ali, the son in-law of Muhammad who was an Indo-Aryan of Pars (Persian nobility)- a contradiction to the phenotype the Arab supremacists push. The crescent was formed to originally guard against the cross, hence why the Quran contains knowledge the cross was erasing at the time hidden behind the religions veil. However the Sunni platform Muhammad established was corrupted by the cross after his death, resulting in Muhammad’s family being wiped out and Ali fleeing to the Indian subcontinent where he establish the Shia platform to counter.
@@NarasimhaDiyasena Oh, for fuck's sake... why can't people just take a video game for what it is, and realize that *every story* humans tell about our origins is a comforting fiction?
@@christianh4723 for the main characters to comprehend. They would not be able to instantly comprehend Isu tech like we do.
The Light Elf and Dark Elf maybe a phanteon from Asia or Africa.
I have to give it to Ubisoft for putting motion capture to good use. From the Asgard arc, it was more of Eivor's image of the gods while in reality it was more advance than we thought.
The aesthetics are molded into Eivor’s cognition of the world. But in reality all of that happened in the modern Isu utopia. So cool.
Wish we could’ve seen all of this under the isu version originally
@@allanmhanson I wonder how did Fenrir look like without the norse filter.
@@albuquerquepioy7071 just probably an angry boi
@@dysfunctionalthor4719 they may make a game one day that features it all modern isu times
Characters we know so far that we’re reincarnated:
Eivor as Odin, but Eivor successfully won against Odin and remained herself.
Sigurd as Tyr, who lost partially but not entirely, with sort of a mixed personality, Sigurd as dominant but Tyr, traits grafted onto him.
Halfdan Ragnarson as Thor, but with the lead poisoning we can assume something went wrong and Thor couldn’t take over.
Vala’s mother as Freya: somehow she got reincarnated sooner that the others, and she trapped herself in the Yggdrasil machine before Freya took over.
Basim as Loki: Complete takeover. Loki overwrote Basim, before or after he met Eivor is not certain. Might have been waiting for Odin to take over Eivor before getting his revenge, but also as an elaborate way to circumvent time and resurrect the rest of his Isu family, Alethia and their children Fenrir, (maybe) Hel and Jormungandur. Ambiguous, willing to use humans for his plan but also seems to side more with them than other Isu. Caution in future.
Expansion:
-King Harald is Freyr, who he doesn't remember his memories.
-Faravid is Jormungandr(even though Darby said he is Sif, but Jormungandr makes more sense), who doesn't remember his memories.
Why if vala's mother is freya, does randvi a look more like freya like an exact copy of her, and b does she sound like freya or freya sounds like randvi?
@@jorgebersabe293 Darby didnt say Faravid was Sif just that his relationship with Halfdan was a clue it could be Sif but Jormungandr is more likely
I'm honestly excited we are playing Loki as modern day protagonist
Also, suttungr is jupiter, hyrrokin is juno, angrboda is aletheia and gunlodr is minerva the one thing i don't understand is that in the illusion everyone is presented as a god but is actually isu everyone is a metaphor for what they truly are except fenrir so you're telling me a giant wolf roamed around at the age of the first civ? Or just loki and aletheia has an isu son that odin didn't like and for that reason is presented as fenrir the wolf of ragnarok? But what was he really?
If you think of every pantheon as a company and every dude here as a billionaire.
This story still makes sense.
You don't need to be millionaire to have this futuristic stuff because free energy exist and that is happens in the past, where do you think all the ancient magic and folklore came from? Technology that were too advanced modern people call it fantasy
It was less so about millionaires and more about just culture groups. The Isu were just as diverse as humans, though smaller in number. The Norse Isu simply happened to include scientists who were attempting the method of inserting themselves into human bloodlines, so they could find a time when they could re-emerge within human forms. Loki succeeded with Basim, but Odin failed with Eivor... ish.
Hopefully this helps people understand the ending
The Isu are useing the machine to pass on DNA blood and Memories to return again another piece of eden to try to save there race from the sun basically 6 times they tried and failed this was 1 of thoughs times by useing Sages aka Odin Isu and the others to come back after the Destruction of there world either through Sex or the machine ✨🌟💫💥
This is my first assassin's Creed game I've played and it was fun, but I didn't understand much of this reincarnation thing... So, is Eivor and Sigurd those embryos that Odin ejects his DNA? So they came back as them with the same memories? And why are the events being repeated twice but in different locations? Odin drinking mead and then Odin passing his DNA to the embryos? I just find it confusing lol
@@brunoport Evior and Sigurd should probably be distant descendants containing DNA of those Odin etc.
Eivor was able to access Odin's memories from drinking the seer's potions, however it is in the form of the Norse mythology as the Isu were long forgotten and such stories passed down as a religion. So what Eivor experienced in the dreams is like a Viking version of what really happened in the Isu period with Odin and gang. And the Real version we got from collecting all the data glitches in the Animus and decrypting them.
Really liked how the game devs linked the religion/mythology with the Isu here
@@jingwuan thank you for the detailed explanation, yeah it took me a while to understand it, but indeed it is an awesome story and well put together.
So are they really gods or are they just some normal humans that invented that machine?
I honestly can say I loved this game, every bit of it, I hated the puzzles at first but I grew to love them, the order tree is massive, there’s so much to do, I love the power system instead of leveling, it makes it feel like much more of a grind, and now I’ve played thru the game like 5 times, everytime I never finish the game only to reinstall it months later and start a new one 😂 this game will always have a special place in my heart, even if it isn’t a true assassins creed game, this and odyssey definitely changed the landscape for me, I love how accurate they try to be lore wise for both of them, mythology and historical events and places, figures, and of course they put their own spill on things but I started to learn Norse and Greek mythology from these games and it had me researching more and more about it 🔥I’m glad my buddy told me to buy odyssey and I would watch him play Valhalla and I knew I had to get it and try it out 😂
5:09 the cutscene from revelations!
I'm honestly giddy from seeing Fenrir lunge at Odin in the water, so cool.
So...in the end Heimdall and Loki killing one another at Ragnarök was adapted into Loki killing Heimdall and the latter dying with the former's mask (Loki could not have died at Yggdrasil/ the dwell of Mimir as it survived the Tova catastrophe and the fetus with Isu DNA could be preserved).
I thought that it may also be that Heimdall, under his reincarnation in vikingr Rig Reidarasson was destined to kill Loki's reincarnation in Basim, as stated that the latter has killed the former. Reidarasson had the voices of Heimdall to travel to Constaninople and kill "a man in the shadows" (Hidden One), but failed. Perhaps Loki had time to read the noodles at Yggdrasil before the end of the First Catastrophe (unbeknowst to the Aesir and Vannir) and avoided going to Contantinople; hence why Reidarasson killed the wrong man. One has also to consider that their Isu memories may fail or ignore what happened to the others: Basim thought at first that Sigurd was Odin, but was surprised that it was Eivor.
That is because Odin cane back in a human chick. Sigurd came back as a male and therefore was more identifiable. He knew Sigurd was Tyr, but also deduced that given the circumstances... Odin's reincarnation will be drawn to his old buddy Tyr (currently Sigurd). He must've been looking for a guy in Sigurd's clan only to realize that Eivor is Odin.
@@Ozzie_Mandias I think he thought Sigurd was Odin originally because both are hot headed glory seekers but he didn’t suspect Eivor until Oxenefordshire (maybe even later) but he didn’t know for sure until the end when he decided to confront Eivor without realizing that Odin didn’t take over (due to Eivor “silencing” him from his mind)
@@josephstalin2606 Late to this band-wagon but this does seem the most plausible. However, Eivor "silencing" Odinn/Havi wasn't the reason Odin never took over. The wolf was. The bite in the beginning caused the Isu personality to be corrupted. so instead of being taken over by the Isu identity, Eivor was able to maintain control while Odin was left to only being able to be an "advisor." If we consult the Cairn stone dialogue, Eivor started hearing Odin whispering in her mind mere days after the bite. Also in the case of most sages (going off of Aita's sages) when their Isu personality is... "activated" for lack of a better word, they seem to go insane, such as the one during present day AC Black Flag, or Sigurd becoming unhinged. although more than likely, Aita's sages were more prone to insanity because of the state he was in while Juno was trying to save him (as in Aita begging for euthanasia). Going back to Eivor, the bite caused the Isu personality to not completely take root because she'd not grown enough.
@@Tyshal5853 I never thought of it that way tbh. That makes sense actually bc I forgot you can’t see Eivors mark due to the wolf “kiss” so it must’ve impacted Odins influence over Eivor
@@Tyshal5853 That's...that's not how DNA should work. A bite wound shouldn't mutate your genetic makeup.
The second the modern day dies is the second AC dies. Always kinda bugged me how people say it's not that important. The reason you enter the Animus in the first point was to save the modern world. So yes... It is as important as the past memories themselves.
perfect - exactly the comparison vid i was looking for. wanted to watch the two scenes back to back.
Which scene is the real one???
@@IopheusHarrison13 The Isu one
It is done, time to face our end.
Accepting your fate is the best way
I mean they are also avoiding their fate at the same time soooo
A very memorable quote or phrase from Odin probably a quote but yeah still memorable in my opinion and I agree with you on that
I noticed the Abstergo logo on the Isu computer and I was like “wait what?” But I remember when Desmond first met Jupiter and Minerva there were a bunch of symbols flying around and one of them was the Absterho symbol, so maybe it’s an ancient icon that the Templars use for Abstergo...or something lol
Also, at the end “Sigurd” is holding 2 swords of eden, one being Excalibur...is the other the same as the one from Unity?
From what I can tell it's not the same sword from unity it's another excalibur type sword. Also it's not siguard holding both swords cause ya know.... hes missing an arm
@@trinc5621 shit looking at it again I see that his arm is gone, it just looks like from the angle he’s at he’s holding both swords
@@Sully2001 yeah that's what I thought at the first too until I got to this part on my playthrough and saw during the line up he was indeed missing an arm.
Abstergo/Acients\Templars are obsessed with the ISU and refer to them as their gods and true leaders of man. Humans were created for slavery, and the ISU used their technology to control the minds of early humans.. until their civilization fell. The antagonist throughout most AC games are aware of this and have knowledge of the ISU's previous existence and have made their logo an ancient symbol from the ISU era as a flaunt of superiority amongst the rest of the globe.
@@chickentendies4485 also, the isu wanted total control over humanity, just like the modern templars/abstergo does. Just a nice touch I find.
Me and my friends after studying for the final exam. 3:51
Hahaha good one 😁
I get that the idea is Odin and the Gods were Isu and that the Asgard we see is supposed to be an alternate representation to the actual Asgard but now that actually gives me more questions.
1) What's was the actual Fenrir supposed to be? One of those mutants like we saw in the AC Odyssey DLC?
2) Who were the Jotnar? Humans or rebel Isu or something like that?
3) What's with the pods? Are they literally reborn from those pods or is it a spirit transfer or something like that?
4) In the Ragnarok when they walk out with weapons it makes sense because they're going to fight the Jotnar. But in the Isu version the whole point is that the apocalypse was caused by the sun so why are they walking out with weapons? To fight the sun?
We'll probably find out most answers in the DLC
The actual Fenrir was just Loki's Isu son Odin killed.
1-Fenrir is just loki's son(an isu who's son was killed by who's known in the game as odin).
2- Jotnar are isu as well, they're supposed to be the feyan faction (Juno, Mars...etc).
3- they transferred their DNA so they can ve reborn later by a human getting attached to the device and then the isu take over their minds.
4- they have weapons so other isu don't come in and use it to store their DNA only those selected ones(clearly that didn't work out well as we see "loki" kill one of them and uploaded his own DNA)
@@nothisispatrick5691 We get that he was Lokis isu son but we mean the isu version of Fenie obviously loki didn’t give birth to a wolve is what he means
@@sovietpotato8031 read what i just wrote
3:58 This scene where they walk out to face their deaths is seriously epic
It truly is I agree with you on that
Why do they all have Excalibur? 😂
Who are they going to fight if it's sun solar flare
@elijahmiddleton2877 The other ISU or possibly humans as they are at war whilst Ragnarok is happening, so they are probably at war as the solar flare is happening- fighting to win over Earth only to have the ISU go completely extinct with humans barely surviving. In the same way the humans end up surviving Ragnarok.
@lyricalap makes sense I with the game would have let us see it
So....Odin is absurdly astronomically stronger than every other isu we have met. Cause suttungr was basically Jupiter the head isu of another pantheon and Odin beat the shit out of him. Loki and Fenrir were incredibly powerful isu and Odin beat both of them. On top of that Odin outsmarted gunlodr/Minerva and basically sexed her in too betrayal. And outsmarted Fenrir. But why? Why is he so overpowered compared too the other isu?
As a leader of a warrior based Isu society of his own... strength and cunning are vital. I'd imagine there is more to these illusions than that. Perhaps Fenrir is Loki's son cursed with an artifact which turns people into monsters like the Minotaur in Ac Odyssey.
Perhaps Odin employed tech to augment his existing powers... given the Isu were superhumans in comparison to humans, hence why only hybrids had any chance against them.
I think it’s because even in the myths Odin balances strength, intelligence and cunning very well. It’s not to say he never loses (getting hung from a tree for over a week) but it doesn’t seem like he ever fights without a plan.
he also fucked Surtr over, who is implied to be Ra of the egyptians
So the ragnarok is the solar eruption
Which is confusing. So the solar flare is loki's son? (Fenrir)?
Yes it’s been known since Revelations.. lol
No lol fenrir is just another isu who ends up killing Odin sometime after he leaves that ygdrassil room
@@turtle5542 Could also be a human/isu hybrid unless he was a creation like what Juno and Aita were doing in Atlantis….
@@matthewriley7826 Perhaps Loki's boy came into contact with one of these artifacts which turns them into monsters....
That ragnarok music is epic
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@@stefg2000 thanks
How is no one thinking Odin could be the Father of Understanding? It would make so much sense.. The seal of the templars(the tree) could literally be the life tree Yggdrasil, Odin is LITERALLY the god of wisdom (the god of understanding, the father of understanding) we know that the actual root of the templars is in the Order of the Ancients, which was not based in christianity as the templars are after the arrival of King Aelfred of England as their grandmaster. We know Odin was an ISU he aspired for power and wisdom, values which align very well with the templars and he literally sacrificed his eye for wisdom, understanding, and the Abstergo logo is so similar to Valknut. It makes so much sense, the clues are all there Odin is very likely the Father of Understanding.
We already know who the Father is (Jupiter portrayed as Sutungr as a Jotnar).
@@mojonation1487 wait what. Is there any piece of evidence or cannon to support this?
@@catabadea5914 Have you played through the Asgard storyline yet? Suttungr spells it out for you point blank.
@@mojonation1487 i cannot find that anywhere. Yet even if I did we have mentions of people throughout history claiming they are the ,,father of understanding” ( example How septimius reffers to Caesar as The Father of Understanding) yet we dont consider him to be the father
@@catabadea5914 The original titles were Isu titles. Yaldabaoth as the Father of Understanding alongside Saklas as the Mother of Wisdom and Samael as the Sacred Voice were the first ones (that we're aware of). Then Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva took those mantles.
After the Isu, the Templars dropped the Mother and Voice roles to only preserve the Father role (per Aelfred breaking from the Order of Ancients because it didn't align with his Christian views).
In the Asgard storyline, Suttungr (Jupiter) literally says he's the Father, Hyrrokin (Juno) is the Mother, and that Gunnlǫð (Minerva) is the Sacred Voice. I can't stress how literally he says it enough.
I play Assassins Creed just for the Isu lore
It added such an interesting twist to the Viking lore how you find out that Ragnarok already happened.
Well in actual mythology it implies that as well
@Bug Chug But throughout the story, everyone talks about going to Valhalla before Ragnarok, but we know it already happened when we find out about the characters being sages. I have done studies on the mythology but I really didn’t see that implied.
Cross referencing Ragnorok with Sumer which is the originator of all ‘mythologies’ and you have the following: Enlil (Odin) fights Enki (Loki) in a great battle over the fate of Fenrir (Adapa/Man) as their two powers, Atlantis and Lemuria, make war. While this occurs, Sutur (Sun) drives his flaming sword (CME) into Eden (Asgard) causing the great catastrophe detailed as the flood in the Book of Enoch. This flood is scientifically dated to be approximately 11,700 years when the Younger Dryas abruptly ended due to a significant rise in temperatures causing glacial ice to melt. Prior to this occurring, the genomic code of all life was uploaded into the life tree, known as Yggdrasil, which Noah transferred to the Ark which to be more precisely is a space ship.
@Matt Jones It really interests me that all the mythologies tie into the books in the Bible in a way. It seems like all those other civilizations interpreted God’s word a different way, and the passing down of the stories developed into other religious views.
@@patrickkunkle5958 you mean the bible ties into all these mythologies, the bible came after and had been able to incorporate and nitpick what was wanted into it
I don't know why they had to make such a mystical look to Eivor's 'Asgard dreams.' To me, I think they should have made it look like the 'Isu' stuff anyway for a couple of reasons. 1) Eivor wouldn't know the difference, I mean, technically (s)he still doesn't know who they are despite practically everyone screaming it in their face, and 2) it would look awesome anyway. The Aleitheia(?) trials in Odyssey's Atlantis pack imo made it look interesting. Arthur C Clarke said: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" and I think that would be a cool twist to the Asgard 'myth' theme. I don't understand why otherwise, someone like Eivor's and even Sigurd seem to not remember a thing, but a character like that Assassin fellow who follows you does.
My best guess it is due to how current era technology lacks the ability to understand Isu technology and data. So in order for the information to be processed to Humans, the data gets distorted into mythical appearances so the human mind can process what little they understand.
The idea is probably to also provide a bridge between the beliefs of norse mythology and what actually happened
My guess is they didn't want you, the player, to know it was all isu untill you got all the data packages then you would piece things together, and I also think that it might have been isu and your just seeing what eivor sees as your living his memories and he couldn't handle the isu so his mind saw it as mythical, just my thoughts
In Unity, it’s explained that the further the animus goes back in time, the more corrupt and glitchy the data gets. So it’s kind of impossible to actually go back all the way to the isu era via the animus. The dream sequences work because A) it’s the closest we’ve ever gotten to seeing the isu era and B) the isu have always been kept a mystery since AC1
1) humans interpret based on what they know, we judge by association, so eivor sees all these things the way she does bc of the stories she already knows, if you saw something you didn't understand or didn't think possible you would try to rationalise it based on what you do, 2) the real reason is bc fantasy and mythology has been selling and would be what the higher ups want, the only reason it's tied to the Isu or AC at all is bc Darby cares about Assassin's Creed and tried to make something that on the surface level appeals to the mainstream audience but if you dig a little deeper, you find an interesting story that respects and tries to satisfy hardcore fans of the series, and It does satisfy me
5:23 has an Abstergo symbol on the Computer. I didn't know Abstergo stole it from the Isu
From the life tree we go to the life tree we shall one day return none may follow Loki least of all it is done time to face our end I love that badass quote 😎.
I love the ancient ones’ outfits
Dude has nearly the exact same ability setup as me. Very nice
1:32 this is wat Sigurd said to eivor in his vision
Loki fully took over Basim in Constantinople when he met Sigurd players were interacting with Loki the whole time also if Faravid was Jormungandar then Loki is one child short it's Sif I've checked numerous times it hasn't changed Faravid is Sif's reincarnation maybe the poisoning was just between Halfdan and Faravid.
The poisoning (most likely) had nothing to do with the Isu. The poisoning was him trying to grab at the power and prestige Halfdan had. Also, Halfdan is Thor so take that however you want. there's actually a detail that Halfdan "signals" his hammer and it flies back to him when Eivor first meets him.
basim is loki and eivor is odino , basim is looking for his son killer, odino.
Since the first hour of the game basim said that sigurd has a familiar face, but diring the boss fight he said he wrong and the person who he looked for was eivor
Odin didn’t kill Fenrir
@@notle1599 yes he did, cause basim(loki) said "a man killed my son" and that man was odino
Yes because sigurd is a reincarnation of no other than tyr and not odin and they’re are ever other reincarnations like Jarl halfdan (thor) and svala (freyja)
@@samuelscaringi2589 no actually the one who killed fenrir is odin’s son vidarr although odin being both the one that bound him and the father of his killer bears the responsibility and should suffer the consequences for that in loki’s eye
@@umayyah3475 where did you find this lore? Where Odin's son kills Loki's son? In-game or actual Norse Mithology?
3:38 if u pause it at the perfect second, u can see the human from the Isu ending (the baby in the yellow thing)
Something that really confuses me is how do the vikings know even a strange retelling of how this happened? Cuz it seems like Odin and company all died during so how could they have passed this down to the humans?
Humans and Isu overlapped. The isu created humanity to be their slaves. So the idea is that humans passed down the stories of living with Isu until they became legends and myths. A new idea presented in this game is that the Isu weren’t a monolithic culture. Meaning that the Isu who lived near Greece spoke differently, wore different clothes, had different tech, etc. so basically every pantheon religion like Greek mythology, Norse mythology, and Egyptian mythology is inspired by the Isu who lived in those territories.
Exactly right
Some isu and some humans survived. They laid the bedrocks for some of humanities most advanced civilizations. Minerva states this in the earlier Creed games. They would've found out about the Aesir in scandinavia, until stories devolved into myth and legend. Same in Greece, being close to Atlantis and the Olympos project.
Hermes (scientist of the city of Elysium in the Isu era) survived- it was he who passed the staff to Pythagoras.
In ac myth: humans were created by isu and the isu are basically gods from different mythologies, Odin and Norse isu probably created the Danes and norses
In Norse myth: the gods, Odin and co. Are alive during the time of the Norseman and they go to Midgard so they probably told ppl of them. If Norse myth is true then they are still living today and Ragnarok is the Norse equivalent to the end of time for us
Wait so if Odin and all the remaining Aesir are Sages, does that mean that they exist could still be reincarnated again like Aita?
Possibly, Desmonds son is an sage
no, it was only a one-time thing for the aesir, aita can be reincarnated again because juno (hyrrokin) said she modified the mead
Possibly, consider this: Desmond "dies" in 2012. In 2013 (a few weeks/months after Desmond's death) you meet John, IT
Guy at Abstergo, who is a Sage, reincarnation of Aita. Also we know Desmond has a son born sometime around 2005 (i think, i could be wrong). Soo if only Aita is allowes to reincarnate again and again, does it mean his reincarnations can overlap? Or does this mean that other sages could reincarnate as well? Eivor vs. Basim 2021 style, and for the first round we will see who can make a better tik tok in 5 minutes 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Hopefully not
@@nazvirsingh1056 Elijah was born at some point in 2005 going off the dates, so there was definitely a miraculous overlap of Aita's genetic memory/consciousness manifesting in two people at the same time.
Realistically, the "reincarnation" is in the form of the memories and personality of the isu individual being embedded in the human genome, so it likely functions similarly to a sort of extreme bleeding effect, in which Sages are just born and live their lives while gradually recalling life as Aita.
@@natchu96 that wasn't the only time in AC 4 there was another sage that was alive the same time as roberts except by the time of the game that sage was already dead
I’ve only played as male Eivor so far, but we see him as Havi/Odin, yet when we see how it plays out in myth and he still looks like Eivor, he has no beard and different hair. I just found it odd. So are there three different looks for Odin, the old appearance we see in the white room scenes for example, the old Odin in the modern ISU look and the young Odin in a mythical world.
male eivor's character model in the cutscene of him at 3:15 with no beard and the default hair is Odins canon look during this time in the game , I played the main story as female and male in asgard and jotunheimr with the default raven clan armor and clean shaven face it blended in nice with this cutscene , female eivor is the Canon choice in the real world if you let the animus decide it changes you to male when entering asgard its what the developers intended
@@welsh-cymru1588 I still think that the animus is projecting something, after all why is Odin wearing Ravensthorpe clothing. If it didn’t really happen this way, then why did he have to be male?
@@bugs1285 asgard and jotunheim didn't really exist eivor saw them as that because of her religion shes a norse, asgards true form looked like that isu vault layla and eivor goes into underground ,eivor saw it differently in the seers hut with the potion because of her religion until she discovers it with sigurd in the undergorund isu vault she then realises there was no gods it was just the ones who came before the first civilisation , similar to how kassandra saw the greek gods differently because she's greek , the isu Jupitar is Zeus in greek mythology and he's Suttengr in norse that giant you fight in the dawn of ragnorok dlc, Jupiter's true form is the one you meet in the old ezio games when he talks to Desmond about how the world ended , depending on your religion that's how you will see the isu realms, odins true form is from that isu truth footage when he's wearing that advanced isu first civ armor. Got to give ubisoft credit they do have some deep lore in the ac universe
@@welsh-cymru1588 Yes, that’s why I said ‘in myth’ compared to the supposedly real ISU world. Thx for clarifying, but I already got that. My point was why that if the mythical world wasn’t real, why do we see two different versions of Havi when he was young. I know the reason behind the scenes, but not in-story. That makes me wonder whether what we saw of the mythical world wasn’t real, however sort of a projection of what was real. We saw Ragnarok the way Eivor saw it and we saw it how it actually happened. Both events were Ragnarok, both were real imo. It just wasn’t depicted the way it actually occurred, but depicted to Eivor’s understanding in a manner of speaking.
The fact that the Isu are witnessing the end of times at 5:05
Is exactly what we see in AC Revelations
When Desmond meets Jupiter explains him the end of times
How did, you see this, I completed the main story arcs for Asgard and England and it did not show me this, do I need to go somewhere or something?
Well for the Asgard only one you simply do all of Asgard. For the more Isu cinematic you have to do all the anomalies side objectives
For the Ragnarok one, you have to complete the first Asgard arc, complete the Jotunheim arc, and return to Asgard to fight Fenrir. The Truth video unlocks when you complete all 10 animus anomalies throughout the world. 9 are in England, 1 is in Norway
Good.
I skipped all anomalys because they bored the hell out of me :-)
2:12 abstergo?!
I noticed it too and I was confused But I remember when Desmond first met Jupiter and Minerva there were a bunch of symbols flying around and one of them was the Absterho symbol, so maybe it’s an ancient icon that the Templars use for Abstergo...or something lol
where?!?!
@@blvck6114 on control panel, Abstergo’s logo can be seen on it.
@@kzng2403 you sure u git the right timestamp
@@chasm1205 I’m pretty damn sure it’s right on the panel, look closely.
What is the song called when Odin is fighting Fenrir?
hated fighting that damn wolf it wasn't anything like any other fight in the game - best game ever though just a horrible fight both times
I really enjoyed it was actually challenging couldn't just cheese it with my poison build.
@@jakethesnake6398 it reminded me of dark souls (which i despise) with the attack, roll, attack, roll nature of it
Nah i did it 1st try on very hard with mjolnr and excalibur. It just takes a bit
Odin and Eivor May have messed up at times, (Odin in mythology too) but in the end they tried to make things right, and that’s what matters.
So... Who was the Isu Loki killed? I might want to say it was supposed to be Heimdall since he is fated to kill him during Ragnarok, but still. Not too sure.
Yeah he's Odin's son in this story
@@NekMinuteG how do you know that? When has Heimdall ever been Odin's son?
Heimdall is not the Odin's son that Loki killed, it was Baldr
@@Piedra103 well I know that from the anomaly runs. But that took place before the Ragnarok vision. I'm talking about the guy Loki stabbed in the chair and took the mask from.
@@lazerwolf952 Heimdall is occasionally referenced as a son of Odin by Snorri.
All this advanced technology for the Isu but someone couldn't get a cough drop for Odin? That Isu mucus was working overtime listen to that voice
Did anyone else notice that basim and Loki have the same voice and character model or was it just me?
Edit: tyr and sigurd have the same voice as well
I think that's the point. Sigurd was rambling about being a reborn god and I thought it was just Sigurd exercising his self importance, but when I went to Asgard a second time and had that storyline with tyr I realized they had the same voice. And his arm (did this mission after we found sigurd's arm) made it even more obvious.
And when Loki was talking about his son with eivor, and as a player we had already seen what Havi did in Asgard to change his fate. I think the voices was for us to more easily put 2 and 2 together.
Basim is Loki's reincarnation and Sigurd is Tyr's
@@swaggy..19.. the arm thing flew right over me
@@abesaint9288 understandable. Context was different. Odin’s betrayal cost tyr his arm, while Eivor had nothing to do with Sigurd’s arm
When I first went to asgard I noticed same beard, face, and voice.
What’s the track called during the ragnarok sequence?
The knowledge of the birds
@@MICHAEL-yd3yj Thanks!
@@Near310 np
Which version makes more sense? The isu or the asgard one?
Isu is the real one.
Asgard one is reinterpretation through nordic beliefs.
The plot twist of AC Valhalla is that the whole game is a reinterpretation of the Ragnarok
@@TheAngous I am confused about them drinking the thing after they go fight in the nordic one.
@@tobiasstephens388 the story about the life essence is that one drinks it before their passing as explained by mimir. Odin had sacrificed his eye to make yggdrassil remember him. That's why they drink it before finding their doom at ragnarok
The Isu are useing the machine to pass on DNA blood and Memories to return again another piece of eden to try to save there race from the sun basically 6 times they tried and failed this was 1 of thoughs times by useing Sages aka Odin Isu and the others to come back after the Destruction of there world either through Sex or the machine ✨🌟💫💥💢
@@mwoodhouse2778 and why Basim/Loki is the only one with full memories? Nor Sigurd, Svala or Eivor have full memory
dose anyone know what the ost's name that plays during the life tree cutscene during Ragnarok
Same question, it was pretty good.
Same! Would love to find it!
Knowledge of the birds
@@MICHAEL-yd3yj thanks mate
@@rohit_parashar np
I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed i had to come to youtube/wikipedia to figure out what on earth was going on, i don't think the game does a great job at telling you EXACTLY what it all means... having said that this video is great and was super helpful in understanding it all, so great job! (i do love the game, just felt the ending doesn't tie it all together very clearly)
what does it not tie up
@@blvck6114 the hamshire arc, the settlement leadership ending, the return to Norway bit and the animus anomalies are all crucial to understanding what the end means but they happen all over the place and at different points, i didn't find it very clear where the end of the game truly was, but that;s just me
@@Killerkwoi13 Have u played other AC games?
@@raj0288 all except Origins, perhaps this explains much of my initial confusion?
4:51 actually got this ending before its mythological counterpart due to first collecting all Wealths and Artifacts and solving all the Mysteries upon arriving to new part of England etc
When I first started playing these sequences I must say I was thinking what is this?!? But once I realised it’s the Isu and there’s some well known Isu characters who show up I was very invested and so glad to see Ubisoft bring back a story line. I do have some critique for it though like why does Layla, Shaun or Rebecca not mention anything about it? especially S&R with their past experience with the Isu and the catastrophe! I found that so odd and made it feel like it’s not important as Isu experiences in the past games! Other bits that I couldn’t wrap my head around was I thought Juno, Minerva and Jupiter were in the grand temple in America doing the experiments?
Odin, As Eivor, Loki as Basim, And Tyr as Sigurd
And halfdan as Thor
Odin in the Isu scene really gives me Travis Fimmel (Ragnar from Vikings) vibes
I understand Odin and the other issue timed their upload so that they could reincarnate around the same time.
However do you think this was a one off? Or could they reincarnate again in a different time after Valhalla?
I would be interested to see Odin return in modern times to face basim
This was a one time reincarnation and this is probably why Odin was so eager to take control of Eivor but then Eivor won. Just like Basim/Loki who manipulated Layla all along so he can escape the grey and fall right on the Staff of Hermes so he can heal his millinium old body. I think only Aita was the only one who was reincarnated indefinitely by Juno, his wife who is also an Isu.
If dawn of ragnorok was more like the Judgment of Atlantis and full on Isu tech everywhere. Because its Odin finding a way to revive Baldr. And the only Isu that have the cure would be the Greeco-Roman Isu, AKA. The Jotuns, Angrboda is Alethia, Juno is Hyrrokin, Jupiter is Suttngr, and Minerva is Gunlodr, and Loki is also apart of the Greeco-Roman Isu as is all of his children. Most likely manifestations of Juno and Aita's project Olympos project, thats why Fenrir is seen as a huge wolf. Thats why also why The norse isu and the Greeco-Roman Isu hate each other. The Isu we know have far more technology than the norse, but the Norse Isu ONLY have the calculations, which is the Yggdrasil device.
The isu ending, why did they hold the weapon anyway? To fight the solar eruption ?
to fight Aita' force, as he mentioned in the Atlantis DLC
@@Tetsulot Or the humans, cos the war / rebellion is still going on when the 'End' occured.
@@Tetsulot no they did not talk about in dlc can you share a video about it
G2 love people that don't understand how the threads of fate function but then make a story about them xD
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I wonder if a reincarnation of the isu Loki killed will find him in the modern day
Bro it’s bassim
Basim is the reincarnated one
I wonder the same. Loki was reincarnated as Basim, but the ISU who killed should probably be reincarnated as well. We don't know who that is though. Also, that makes the total number of ISU reincarnated to 9, not 8 as I said in my comment.
@@normancastillo9294 Loki killed another ISU who followed the procedure to become reincarnated as well.
The Isu Loki killed was Baldur I believe
How do you get this second scene of Isu preserving their DNA in AC Valhalla? Did I miss it?
You have to collect all 10 Animus Anomalies
So eivor is a sage? When i play assassin's creed black flag what i understand sage can be reborn alot of times ? Cant this sages be reborn more times like black flag?
Technically he should be (which would probably be a target for Basim later on), but the same wouldn't be said for Loki since he was stuck on the machine and wasn't really dead
@@hainguyn948 iam just confused becus i get impresion that sage can be reborn more times and dag killed by evior and he is a sage too so dag and eivor is not on the machin and shude be reborn modern day as in black flag (sorry bad english)
How was Eivor born with Odin's DNA preserved in the baby? I wanna see that cut scene in the game or hopefully they show it in the DLC's.
It's "random". Same process as the Sages.
I dont understand too like was that baby implanted into eivors mother or was he simply found and adopted
They did a big mistake with the asgard level. They should have let us play the literal versione of those events and not the fantasy Viking Style they gave us since that Is Just Eivor's interpretation of the events.
Where did the second part ending come from??
By finishing all animus anomalies
When you want a viking game and you don't have to do the boring anomaly-parts.
Thanks ubi!
From the beginning it’s just Animus re-living Eivor’s life, Viking game is a Sub theme. Isu were always the primary
@@baltonus1120 yes, but i like the fact, that you most of the time are not forced to do the isu stuff.
Wait so did they tie in the toba catastrophe footage into the canon of this game. I love that
How do you get to see the second cutscene (with the gods on the Isu machine). I have finished the main story, both Asgard and Jotenheim Arcs. I am so lost
I want to know if the dream sequence from vahalla was happening at the same time as kassandras simulation mission yea they were both essentially relived thru cultural lens but did the ending of Atlantis happen during the first catastrophe just as vahalla implies the dream sequence took place then
The ragnarok dream ending is after atlantis Alethia mind already transfered in the staff at that point
So isu lokis son. Is it really a wolf? Or some robot type machine that causes the end of the world?
I'm wondering who are the sons of loki. I mean the wolf and the snake. are they isu like odin? or ...
i completed the game but why didn't i get this loki breaching cut scenes?
How do you get this ending ?
Finish all the animus anomalies
@@SonOfOsiris3 but I already finish the Asgard story, will I still get this ending without complete all the anomalies?
@@mishima433 it's seperate ending, one is not dependent from another.
Yeah assassins creed took the idea of the precursors having names of gods a lil too literally
This all well and all but wassup with fenrir like he a gigantic wolf and shit how does that translate to him causing end of the world and what about loki other children like the gigantic world snake how tf does this fit
Wait. If Loki killed whoever that was, and didn’t replace their chair, then who’s chair did he take, to override the reincarnation process for that ISU? Which ISU was not reborn? Because there was a baby for each one of them right?🤔
Loki killed Heimdall
They really should have left the ISU as just a powerful race that came before who enslaved the humans until a rebellion instead of pulling reincarnation into it. Sometimes simpler is better.
So does this mean in the AC universe the aesir gods where real, but they did not live or die as the Norse mythologies predict but rather as ISU gods and ragnarok is really just the ISU solar flare ?
In the ac universe, every god in mythology or religion was real but they were isu
So is basim Loki?
So I never understood why in the Cutscene Eivor 0 Odin / Havi suddenly has a clean shaven face. When we see the true memory however he looks like the hooded Odin
Is that an error or do you think it's to clue us in and say female eivor is the cannon character
When are we going to discuss that there are 4 other incarcerations' that we haven't seen in the game yet? One if which is Thor's???
Because we have seen:
Odin - Eivor
Tyr - Sigurd
Loki - Basim
Freyja - Svala (Seen in Valhalla - never mentioned though, but Freyja and Svala have the same face)
We see Thor drinking/inhaling that thing so he must be incarcerated as well. And there are other three who we don't know who they are.
Halfdan Ragnarson = Thor
Dag is Thor... As long as my memory serves
@@symphony4114 no it's halfdan. I looked it up afterwards. I didn't notice they had the same face while playing.
@@symphony4114 Dag never used a hammer ever, if I recall correctly he was using an axe.
I notice that when halfdan throws his hammer it come backs to him
I love how every take on Ragnarok is wrong...all we got in this is fenrir but nothing about his brother jormungandr or sister hel both kids of Loki/basin only game that's getting it mildly accurate is God of war...I want to make a animated movie about the actual end times as it was FUCKING WRITTEN. I get they have to tie isu shit in here but I mean come on
Jesus christ relax.
@@CheddarProtector just a passion 🙄
@@vernonroche7067 There's having a passion, and then being ignorant of that which you're passionate about.
@@CheddarProtector damn in what way was j ignorant please explain all knowing one
It legit is only highlighting Odin's end. Jormungandr kills and is killed by Thor, Hel really doesn't have anything to do with Ragnarok. All she did was at most troll the Gods after Baldur's death.
The game implies that where Sigurd is reincarnation of Tyr, Basim is Loki, and Eivor is Odin. It would make sense that the story for the game only focuses on Odin's part in Ragnarok, of course they took the liberty of him finding a way to always survive the end. But they always do die, just get reincarnated.
This is crazy lol
I still don't get it... kind of. :D So, Odin, Tyr, Freya, Loki, Thor and the others were in the AC's world real? But because of Ragnarok, Odin had to do something, so they all could be reborn. That means, that Odin and other Gods died, but their dna or something like that, was sent to that babies.
So, what does that mean? That Odin was ISU all the time? Or what? Those ISU from Odyssey Snydicate etc, who were they then?
And by the way :D I dont' uderstand those Valka's words before leaving tto the southwest of the England. She said Ravensthorpe is not going to be the same, as it was before Ieft. I have all endings from the game now, but still don't know what she meant by those words.
Can you explain that to me?
The visions of Asgard tell you the story of reincarnations but through Eivor's point of view, since he is a human and his brain assimilates all those memories according to his mythology and perception of the world. Actually Odin was an Isu scientist who found one last way to "survive" the end of the world (so to speak.) They would have to reincarnate, but at the cost of being a human.
Basically the ending in asgard was what eivor saw because of her religious beliefs norse but the isu video is how it really happened the jotunheim didnt actually look like that if you remember fighting that giant blue king suttunhr in jotunheimr he didnt really look like that eivor saw him like that through her religious belief it was actually Jupiter from past ac games so it was odin against jupitar
is that Excaliber & the sword from the DLC
So if this is supposed to be the Isu Era I assume it’s before they are technologically advanced cause I don’t see any Isu looking technology.
This is literally the end of the Isu era, one of the Isu was also holding the sword
For those who are confused the ending is also confusing me lol
Dont Cry the asgard is an illusion by Odin, the truth is that they are Isu
Eivor is a sage like robert from black flag, he is experiencing odin memories with norse filter, as he don't know anything about isu, in reality asgard was isu city and you are seeing the true version on right
@@soundwavesuperior6761 you explained it so perfectly I been looking for this and thought that raganarok event and the isu event were both diff times 😂 now I understand ragnarok was a filter and the isu event was the real deal. Thank you!
So Odin Thor and Loki share a friendship type of relationship instead of the father son in marvel .
According to Norse mythology thor is the son of odin and Loki is Odin's adopted brother
Where is the second footage found? The DLC?
Did you ever find out?
I don't understand anything
Anakin Skywalker The asgard ending is an illusion by Odin, the truth is that they are just Isus
It’s showing what happened in Norse Mythology vs what really happened in the AC universe which is that the Norse Gods and the Asgard story is actually a somewhat true story based on the Isu showing that all myths and legends derive from The Isu and The First Civilization.
There are no gods, Odin, Tyr, Loki are just isu. Odin and the others reincarnated in humans after the end of the world (ragnarok for people in the north, or apocalypse for christians) Eivir has two 🧬 dna 🧬 hers (yes, Eivor is a woman) and Odin's, at some point she started having visions of the gods, but they were not visions but memories, but her human brain couldn't understand anything of what she was seeing. Isu artifacts (magic) and technology so she used the norse mythology to give it some sense. At the end they were no giant wolf, elves or ice giant, they were just isu fighting isu. (Apologies for my English)
@@DavidVideoRecords Eivor has no canon gender
@@joemama-ib2lh Viking Eivor is a woman, go read the comic.
Bro how did u get to enable sound in the Hidden Truth video? The video file in the installation folder has no sound.
You have to complete all of the Animus side quest.
@@Uso_Li i know. I have already done those. It showed the video after completion of the anomalies but when i m trying to view the video in Layla's laptop, the video plays with no sound.
@@raj0288 He recorded it when he first got it
I didnt get the isu ending. When i beat fenrir and the cutscene played it was just the asgard one when they are sitting around the life tree then it ended... when i saw the isu part in a different video i had to look this up to see what i missed but i still have no clue..
Did you complete all of the animus anomalies yet? I think you get the Isu clip from completing them
How i get this end?
Finish all ten anomalies
Why cant i get past the defensive measures glitch with the shiels not working?? Im at level 400..is it too late to go back and finish or is it still glitched?
What glitch is that?
@@gamermanPS3 in the defensive measures part of the asgard story arc. The builder is gone and the shield doesnt work. Im stuck running around fighting off hordes of Jotun that keep coming at me..
I've never understood assassin's creed All I want to no is evior Odin and does he come back alive
In dream Odin fought wolf fenrir son of loki but can someone tell me what did Odin actually fought in isu timeline (I mean not the dream imprinted to eivor's mind but what odin actually fought how does loki's son look like? )
Probably just like a dude.
I’ve always been confused so was evior like a sage
Footage looks.. Blurry.
Good job on finishing the game, though!
So what's with the Prometheus's setting With the babies ? Is that Odin present day or is that in vallhalla I'm confused as fuck with this game
The Isu ending is what actually happened in reality. The "gods" were just a highly advanced race that predated and created humans. Eivor's visions of Valhalla are actually memories of her previous life, but her mind is presenting it through her mythological beliefs so that she can comprehend it.
Now im confused, is Asgard really the one in Eivor reliving Odin's memories or the one full of advanced tech like in the Isu ending?
Full advanced. The one Eivor "relived" was simply how her human mind comprehended it.
The full advanced tech. The one that Eivor saw was just simplified to suit his/her beliefs so they’d be able to comprehend it better.
I wish they showed the Isu with advanced guns rather than cool looking swords. They were supposed to be really advanced but they still haven’t developed firearms? Modern humanity could probably obliterate the Isu in a direct battle. They could’ve kept the same animations but replace them with the advanced firearms. Have Excalibur be a shotgun on the shoulder, Odin could be dual wielding pistols
Uhhhh not everything should have guns, their technology surpassed the uses of Guns completely. The Swords are just representing their status and tbh they weren’t going to fight, just face the inevitable death.
@@baltonus1120 That is a good point, they were trying to be symbolic because why not. Still, as armour improves to make previous guns obsolete, people have just made bigger, harder hitting guns. It’s always better to wage war at a distance so I don’t see why the Isu would not do that.
But they did, well not in recent games, but in Assassin's Creed 3, when Juno explains some of the methods they tried to use to save the world, Jupiter can be seen with a ring of Eden and a gun that shoots beams of light.
So yes, the Isu had Guns, only they weren't explored in the franchise yet.
@@riddlerwillison3336 Not only that, remember that Swords of Edens can fire energy blasts akin to lightning - or in Deimos's case, like a shotgun or fox-tail weapon.
It's practically equiv. to a firearm + bayonet / axe head.
Well actually Black Panther also touched upon this topic remember? The Kingˋs Guard woman said during the car chase: „Guns, so primitive“ So maybe for the Isu guns were primitive?
Who tf is the guy holding Excalibur in each cut scene?
Heimdall