I cannot believe that the club allowed that much grass to be stacked on the landing strip when it was active. If you put a wingtip into in on landing , you have a high risk of spinning the glider and breaking the fuselage in two.
To me, it seems poor practice to utilise a landing area contaminated with something that is at such a height it poses a risk to the aircraft. The airfield seemed to have lots of options, I don't know the procedures in place, but personally I think I might have chosen the tarmac to land on, so as to avoid the grass clumps? Just a thought
Thanks for sharing! It takes great effort to share incidents like this, especially since everyone watching and commenting know so well how to handle in those situations. By sharing this others can learn from these situations!
1. Dump the noise - close the sliding window and turn off the audio-vario. These distractions do not help beginner pilots under instruction. 2. Hold the stick as if it was poisonous. A thumb and two fingers is all you need. This will help over-controlling. 3. Use your feet. The bottom of the yaw string points to the pedal that needs to be pressed (not stomped on). 4. Landing in contaminated areas damages aircraft. This poor choice of landing area was totally down to your instructor. My suggestion would be to fly with your all of your instruments covered up. They will be of no value until you can fly. Lastly, I’d fly with a different instructor. You were being placed to fail and were not given guidance to succeed. Your landing was the biggest example. Your attempt at thermalling was another. Your lack of aileron-rudder co-ordination is the one that needs the most attention. Only when this is sorted can you really progress. You have made some really good progress in 20 flights and you are not a basket case. You need some real instruction to progress further. Best of luck.
Well done putting this on UA-cam for others to learn from! Disregard the snooty comments, You are doing a service to fellow student pilots. I was actually a bit surprised ro see the lower brake damaged like that. When I learned to fly gliders back in the 1970:s outlandings were much more common and I can not remember seeing this on any tall grass landing previously. Ground loop damage was also less severe before the weak composite T-tails became the fashion...
So pull the air break back in when landing in high grass and you have enough space of landing? On the other hand ... if you have a designated landing area, shouldn't that be cleared of any possible obstacles?
Very nervous stick movement while towing and they makes no use for flight. Just stop doing that, look at the video. Slipping will be less noticable after some time, for now, the sound in a cockpit is awfull :D And you are supposed to hold the wings horizontal until you stop. With a normal glider you will brake a tail off if you will let the wing to touch a ground..
You should be coming in higher with 1/2 to 2/3 airbrake. The clue is in the name AIRbrake. You didnt open it untill after you 'arrived' on the ground. You were way too low on approach, had you hit sink you wouldnt have made the field. Its a MASSIVE field, you could have crossed the field boundary at 500ft and still made it in
He made the Field. He hit his spot exactly. This was a normal Landing with Damages resulting from things outside his Control. The K-13 has very effective Airbrakes even at half opening.
I cannot believe that the club allowed that much grass to be stacked on the landing strip when it was active. If you put a wingtip into in on landing , you have a high risk of spinning the glider and breaking the fuselage in two.
To me, it seems poor practice to utilise a landing area contaminated with something that is at such a height it poses a risk to the aircraft. The airfield seemed to have lots of options, I don't know the procedures in place, but personally I think I might have chosen the tarmac to land on, so as to avoid the grass clumps?
Just a thought
Thanks for sharing! It takes great effort to share incidents like this, especially since everyone watching and commenting know so well how to handle in those situations. By sharing this others can learn from these situations!
Thank you 🙏that’s the point. Sharing is caring.
I did not even know some gliders had airbrakes below the wing (I see now in pictures that they are both above and below on the ASK 13)
1. Dump the noise - close the sliding window and turn off the audio-vario. These distractions do not help beginner pilots under instruction.
2. Hold the stick as if it was poisonous. A thumb and two fingers is all you need. This will help over-controlling.
3. Use your feet. The bottom of the yaw string points to the pedal that needs to be pressed (not stomped on).
4. Landing in contaminated areas damages aircraft. This poor choice of landing area was totally down to your instructor.
My suggestion would be to fly with your all of your instruments covered up. They will be of no value until you can fly.
Lastly, I’d fly with a different instructor. You were being placed to fail and were not given guidance to succeed. Your landing was the biggest example. Your attempt at thermalling was another. Your lack of aileron-rudder co-ordination is the one that needs the most attention. Only when this is sorted can you really progress. You have made some really good progress in 20 flights and you are not a basket case. You need some real instruction to progress further.
Best of luck.
Spot on assessment!!
Hope he reads this Trev
Well done putting this on UA-cam for others to learn from! Disregard the snooty comments, You are doing a service to fellow student pilots. I was actually a bit surprised ro see the lower brake damaged like that. When I learned to fly gliders back in the 1970:s outlandings were much more common and I can not remember seeing this on any tall grass landing previously. Ground loop damage was also less severe before the weak composite T-tails became the fashion...
Thank you sir, appreciate your comment.
Germans!!😊
Once the hay has been pressed into these giant wheels, you might loose the whole wing.
The windrows in the field next to the runway were there on takeoff. The flight plan should have included a plan to land back on the runway
So pull the air break back in when landing in high grass and you have enough space of landing?
On the other hand ... if you have a designated landing area, shouldn't that be cleared of any possible obstacles?
Very nervous stick movement while towing and they makes no use for flight. Just stop doing that, look at the video. Slipping will be less noticable after some time, for now, the sound in a cockpit is awfull :D And you are supposed to hold the wings horizontal until you stop. With a normal glider you will brake a tail off if you will let the wing to touch a ground..
He was a student pilot, I am sure we have all done stick waggling during our training.😄
Did you leave the hay intentionally on the landing strip? If yes, why? If no, why didn't you land on the runway?
Absolutely not, it was not collected on time. Next landings were on the tarmac.
Why not land on asphalt?
Landing glider is Russian roulette you got to be precise in judgement because there is no second chance like engine aircraft,go around !
I take it the tarmac runway was not in service for gliders?
Avoid tarmac as much as possible in ASK13 because of the metal skid it rests on?
There was heavy traffic that day, grass was chosen so that the runway did not get blocked for too long. No more landings on the grass following mine.
@@ZWD2011 All ASK13 or even ASK8 I saw so far have at least one main weel. So landing on tarmac and rolling out to the grass is an option.
There was a runway right there. And you landed right next to it and damaged the glider 😂😂😂
it is a very silly idea to move the stick all the time like a spoon in the soup !
Its KA7 or 8 right?
it is an ASK13
You should be coming in higher with 1/2 to 2/3 airbrake. The clue is in the name AIRbrake. You didnt open it untill after you 'arrived' on the ground. You were way too low on approach, had you hit sink you wouldnt have made the field. Its a MASSIVE field, you could have crossed the field boundary at 500ft and still made it in
He made the Field. He hit his spot exactly. This was a normal Landing with Damages resulting from things outside his Control. The K-13 has very effective Airbrakes even at half opening.
extrem nerveus on the stick..wie kann man auf einem solchen Platz landen...da war anderweitig mehr als genug Platz..
Die Wahl hat sein Fluglehrer getroffen - er ist in Ausbildung.