I don’t think we’re tired of them, Heck I’m not, but I think aside from all the well known and popular liminal spaces, people definitely haven’t cared as much or been as creative as it was maybe 2-3 years ago
I'm tired of looking at liminal spaces through a screen however, actually finding them in person is an addicting feeling, and I can't get enough of them
@@gekinatracksuit9710 absolutely. There's nothing like happening upon a liminal space and real life and thinking: oh this is going to make for a great photo
problem is that people just milked so much out of them that it kind of lost the original meaning, like when u search abt liminal spaces u often see a random instagrammer wanting to show themselves in a liminal space ruining the whole composition. when people add stuff it lose the liminal feeling and maybe this happens because the general population really hate the emptiness and want to fill with something. also many liminal spaces are from either europe or USA and theres little explorations of countries outside of this, here in brazil theres lots of landscapes but almost nobody takes pictures of these liminal spaces to share online. i myself am someone that always take a picture whenever i got the chance and maybe i could share with u somewhere so u can talk abt some places here and in other countries. gosh north korea is a museum of liminality.
@@jktech2117 yeah, I definitely like to see liminal spaces outside of the USA and Europe, I recent made a video on Indonesian Liminal Spaces and plan to do one for S Korea so it's funny you mention N Korea. Although, liminal spaces not from our world are very interesting too. Basically Liminal Spaces from fictional places like video games 😺
@@Shookey u could look at some old games like TES daggerfall and arena, even though the game is in a medieval setting the graphics makes all feel really liminal and music also does this
So long as there are fresh ideas/art out there, I'm always down for more. Much like Vaporwave, I haven't tired of it one bit; going on 10 years now (or thereabouts) -- Great upload.
I forget when I first started hearing vaporwave. But I think it's still relatively new. But also my sense of time has been altered I think due to age and now mostly being able to kind of remember loose feelings and relative roundabout times if not exact years and dates. Unless I wrote something down for that particular date or can find something else as a marker to help me place it. I think i sort of recall coming across Vaporwave sometime between 2018/2019 and 2020. Also I think I looked into something called Lazerhawk that I think someone told me about back in 2017.
I wouldn't say people are tired of it but the initial boom in 2021/2022 has definitely passed. I'd say if anything it's having a little bit of a comeback. I think a lot of people got kinda burned out of it for a couple years just because of all the junk and bad horror crap, but I think it'll kinda persist as its own ongoing kinda niche thing with its fans sharing and experiencing art, including its various other facets like weirdcore and yeah i guess even the horror stuff. It's just a consistently cozy thing to come back to when you can find the right things. Not all styles and subjects are for everyone of course, and it's also not reasonable for someone to have the same interest all the time. it may come in and out, maybe just different depending on the day/time/mood/whatever. I find a modern pattern with liminal spaces over the past year or so is a heavy lean in to the "nostalgic", which I dunno, just isn't very much the right feeling for me. It's always going to be someone else's home or bedroom or school or whatever. The best ones were the ones where it is almost kinda generic enough that it's more in to that territory of "a bit weird or off", or even is just weird or off in some way such that you take a moment to notice it because something isn't quite right. Obviously there's nothing wrong with the purely nostalgic side of it, but I'm just not a very nostalgic person, so it's not for me, so it would be nice to more easily find other things. I can appreciate style and architecture from a previous time not because it's from that time, but because there is something notably different or strange about it. Overall, I think it's just such a fundamental part of our experience on some level to have some feeling about an unusual place or a familiar place in an unusual state or just a place with some kind of unique character to it that gives it a particular feeling that I think this whole thing will probably be around for a long time to some degree, even if it's defined in some different way. It's just become more mainstream that some kind of acknowledgement of this phenomenon is made. Also a few weeks ago i was listening to slowed down mystery meat abstract map too haha.
This video was amazing! Great analysis, I basically feel the same way about liminal spaces as of now. One thing that you did make me realize is that actively seeking out liminal spaces makes them lose some of their charm, and this is especially true for me since I used to run a liminal space blog type thing. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy seeing these images, just don't hit as hard as they used to.
I will never tire of liminal spaces, sure with its popularity comes oversaturation of the topic, and most people who enjoyed it as a fad have already moved on. I'm always interested in strange nostalgic spaces, dreamy locations and abandoned buildings. Also what music did you use in this video? i liked the one at 9:30
Cyberpunk is pretty much done to death now too. I've always liked cyberpunk so I'm not going to get tired of it but it's still feeling a bit worn even for me. I haven't even played the 2077 game yet. Time for everyone to move on to frutiger aero nostalgia?
I find that the problem with cyberpunk is that it's used too much in a broad sense. Most people when talking about it, refer to it as if it's some kind of aesthetic. When in reality, cyberpunk is a genre which spawned from literature, much like fantasy (Books like Neuromancer are an example of this). With its contemporary popularity, coming mainly out of Hollywood with movies like Blade Runner and in our current day with as you mentioned, 2077, people unfortunately are not accurately educated with what cyberpunk really is.
No, I’m still on a journey to find design inspiration from liminal space. There have been lots of good one but it’s getting harder to find the one that grab you
@@Stevedawhoop and that feeling only gets worse the more you look at them. Of course I still like them, but I'm not in ignorance to know when they've become stale or over done. At least for me, they've definitely lost significance.
think another reason why liminal spaces have been falling out of fashion lately is because of that same nostalgia you mentioned, which is so engrained in liminal photography. Many of the places in the infamous liminal space images are no longer something that most of the people seeing them can consider nostalgic. Shopping malls, playgrounds, hotels, and et cetera look a lot different nowadays than what they did ten or twenty years ago. Asking people of ages 15-30 what kind of rugs they remember from their childhood, wallpapers or even the type of phone camera they used to take images with with produce widely different results, and they're the demographic that uses the internet the most. It's something I've struggled with when looking for liminal spaces on the internet, because the time and place most of this liminal/dream spaces/dreamcore genre is not something I got to experience. We never had arcades here, or ice cream trucks or family diners with mascots here, so liminal images of those are just... not liminal to me. That "places where you've been before/saw in your dreams" part of them is just not there. And I think that's something that's going to be even more evident as time passes and more people who belong to younger generations take over the internet (lol). But I doubt it will make the genra die out. I love taking pictures of empty places I remember from my childhood and each day I see more and more "oddly familiar places you've seen in your dreams [soviet version]" popping up. I'm projecting, obviously, and this is likely not as big of a deal as I'm making it, but I wanted to try and share my thoughts regardless. What's I'm trying to say is: adapt, improvise, overcome.
Personally, no. I still love them a lot. I love looking at images online, being in them irl, taking my own pics, etc. I'm a street musician, and the main place I play my instruments in is a mall. I usually stay there late after university. The guards already know me, so I get some time to be in some areas of the closing mall. And the feeling of being there is just relaxing. Eerie but extremely pleasing at the same time. I do urbex from time to time as well, same feeling of anemoia and nostalgia, I just love it.
@@SasiakGnarly so you actually get to feel true Liminality from irl experiences rather then just looking at various photos online. Which is where I find many of the problems may occur when it comes to things like indifference within seeking Liminality through Liminal Space photos. Good on ya
i also feel like how open you are to experiencing the nostalgia and the eerie peace of liminal spaces depends on where you are mentally; at least it seems to be like that for me that in context that since the pandemic and its bigger effects have ended we are all forced into functioning within this fast paced life seems to drain people from the ability to just Sit With Feelings sometimes.
I still enjoy liminal space, just not as much as I did 3 to 4 -ish years ago. during my obsession with liminal spaces, I absolutely loved your content.
I like the definition of something that is no more and never actually was. The need to find feelings organically, including the feeling of liminality, is a great argument. I have been photo blogging abandoned locations since 2010. There is no question that the vibe existed before lock-downs, but also no question that they are more popular now than before. I think in terms of oversaturation, the main thing is that people automatically try to distance themselves from the mainstream when it comes to art. Right now, liminality is the main stream. I wonder how we will feel when the interest crest, and we are once again "weird" for enjoying the lightly creepy emptiness. My guess is it will feel refreshing.
Liminal spaces, in my opinion, were always a warning of the fragility of time. Time never stops for anything, it just simply moves forward. In the case of liminal spaces, they were caught by circumstances, left behind by time to rot, becoming symbols for something lost. The point of looking to the past is being able to reflect, hopefully using their lessons to better the present and future. Sticking to the past leaves a person stagnant to what lies in front of them, as well as beyond them. Liminal spaces captured a child-like wonder in many of us because it reminded us of a past long gone. The over-saturation of liminal spaces has and always will taint that wonder. It loses that wonder once held, reducing it to nothing more than grainy images that are somewhat creepy. As transitional spaces, liminal spaces were created to be a lens to the past. What lesson, or more-so warning were they trying to tell us? Things are always changing. One minute, a mall would be filled with life and activity, the next minute the mall is reduced to a husk. Change is apparent throughout liminal spaces, warning us how fragile a moment really could be. When you become oversaturated from liminal spaces, that’s sign that maybe you’ve missed the lesson they were trying to teach you. Instead of peering into a past you’ve never had, use the present to live, and the future to hope. Be in the moment, instead of a moment long past its prime. In summary, liminal spaces were made to teach viewers about cherishing the moment they have in the present, and the hope they can carry for the future, because eventually, time always catches up to those moments, claiming them as trophies of a decade past, a liminal space.
I agree that it probably is that the surge in popularity of these kinds of photos and aesthetics has become oversaturated and in some ways diluted by lower quality additions to the pool. Some people didn't understand and tried to contribute, some were intentionally exploitative, and just like anything that gets majorly popular these things increase over time until it doesn't feel the same as it initially did. That being said, it's not like it's their fault for so many people falling out of love with the genre, like you said exposure slowly drains the excitement from things. Either way, I still like these kinds of images cool and they're nice to see every once in a while. Hope life has been treating you well! Peace :)
I still enjoy liminal spaces and don't feel tired, but I can see how they might feel less interesting if you see pictures of very similar or the same places many times. What brings up new interest in liminal spaces is discovering new and unique ones, especially in unexpected places. And taking a break and getting into it again after a while definitely helps in keeping up the interest, liminality is a feeling after all that can be evoked by many different and unexpected places. Glad you keep liminal spaces as a main topic of your channel, you build up a community of liminal space enthusiasts, keep up the great content bro 👍
Finally someone said it. Personally im kinda sick of the genre but i love this channels origins as an analyitical channel rather than a content farm for it
Liminal spaces are my Obsession! Heck, I have an entire Instagram account dedicated to it! I couldn’t see myself getting tired of it. It is a huge part of my life
For me what made liminal spaces tiresome was the oversaturation of explanations within the world of liminality. What made it special for me was that liminal spaces was the embodiment of a memory and the reality of what happened if you went back.. that being nothing. It was the obscurity that made the feel of liminal spaces not the well versed lore and law added nowadays. Id be more scared being a dimension whose laws i dont know. But regardless, i think you bring alot of refreshing things to liminal spaces and still keep them in their original eerieness. Keep it up shookey
Ever since the pandemic happened and the backrooms were spawned into the realm of fiction I've had a fascination with the concept of being completely alone in an endless maze of familiarity. With social anxiety and no friends I could visit in the real world the loneliness I felt was sort of comfortable when paired with the idea of the Liminal, the concept of Kenopsia. Four years later and I feel I am still trapped in the fictional world of a time long past, and a time yet to come. It's hard to connect with another person on an emotional level because I'm so used to feeling numb and distant, so I like to build empty worlds designed for people, but lacking people. It's a bittersweet endeavor to have only myself to talk to, to understand, in these worlds. I have become a ghost in my own machine. Stay dreaming, the real world isn't ready for you. ✨
As a Liminal Space photographer, I do find myself falling into a repetition with all the hallway photos I have. Recently, I've been trying to find more unique scenes which is why I basically only take 30 or less new photos every year. I don't have or ever believe I'll get burnout from it...but that's why I say you can't FORCE a Liminal Space to pop out of nowhere. It takes me a while to notice one. And similarly to what you said, everyone has a personal preference and different view on things...so I don't think it's possible LS will fall out since new folks will always take place over time.
This is such a good video. I've always loved liminal spaces and I'm still working on a game on Roblox for 2 years about the liminal space concept. Although I've gotten pretty desensitized, sometimes it hits me. My mum and dad watch lots of movies and in those movies I hear about them talking about liminal spaces sometimes in 2024. Liminality is known globally, and liminal spaces will never die
I still love liminal spaces. My problem with the current liminal space lovers is the fact that they always try to make them into some sort of creepy pasta or analog horror. Also the fact that they try to take blurred out screenshots of SpongeBob and Minecraft and call them “liminal space” when those completely miss the point of actual liminal space. And finally, we aren’t getting any new photos from what I’ve seen. Just cgi rooms or re-edited versions of older liminal spaces
I think we are tired because liminal spaces are now used as a horror genre like the backrooms and since the use of liminal spaces has been overused, yes we have moved on
I was waiting for someone to come out in the open and point this out. I'm about 3 weeks late to this video but only because I've been trying to survive in this industrial jungle called life with the cost of living in general becoming the new nightmare. That said. I'm not tired of them just yet but under the condition it's either 1. Late 90s to early 2000s in theme or 2. So surrral and weirdcore trippy and euclidean in nature it's impossible to exist in our reality. If it's just the typical liminal space standard I'm less inclined to check it out anymore.
Not incredibly relevant, but I'm a fan of Magic: The Gathering and they have an upcoming expansion based on "modern horror". In some of the super duper ridiculously early previews, there have been one or two landscapes that are almost liminal adjacent. A huge empty room with marble floors, all the furniture, windows, and doors covered in heavy white drapes, a vast forest with trees whose branches intertwine into door frames that somehow lead to other rooms, inexplicable indoor pools in the middle of hallways, those kinds of things. I'm honestly digging the whole aesthetic of the set and want to get the landscapes from it just to have and look at. It might say something though that media giants like Hasbro are now trying to take something as abstract and community based as liminal space art and put it on trading cards.
I’ve definitely lost interest in them. But I do think they will definitely have a huge comeback soon. Liminal spaces and mostly the feeling it gives are something that almost feels universal. Like everyone can look at these photos and feel something or be brought back to a memory. So I don’t think it’ll ever truly go away
I took a break from it in general. Mostly just not having them come up as often in recommendations and gmod workshop has very few atmospheric maps since at least a year (though many by shortnamesalex have been pretty good if a bit small). I've consistently been watching "liminal AI" when they'd upload but not much more, but nowadays you have people feeding the images in to generative video AIs and yeah yeah i know AI is killing art and all that, but given the right training it does seem to do exceptionally well at its own flavor of liminal spaces that don't replace human artists and photography in this case. But in general i've been pretty out of it compared to a couple years ago. I'm not sick of it, and I hope it becomes a healthy genre of art again so I can find more joy in it.
Even during the peak of liminal spaces, I only ever actively seeked out content containing them, when certain specific conditions where met, one of which being that I was feeling anxious or nostalgic. In the beginning they did give me the usual feeling one has when looking at them, but over time they started giving off an oddly comforting feel, that I can't really explain. It just felt wrong, consuming liminal space content all the time. Now backrooms content is a whole other paragraph, I could write, but I'm not gonna. I'm just not.🙃
"I'm just not 🙃" 😹😹 Oh man Tourma you kill me. I can't even remember the last time I felt anxious or nostalgic from a limspac image. Unfortunately I lost that feel a way long time ago 😭
@@Shookey yeah, when the backrooms felt like a mall in West Virginia I visited in 2008 or something it felt more mysterious than men in hazmat suits fighting huggy wuggy
It feels like so many people ignore the most important part of liminal spaces, the fact they have to be transitional. I see so many that just aren't transitional spaces. It also feels like people make them out to be far more philosophical than they are.
@@voidsludge1254 I find that liminal spaces are inherently philosophical considering they're based on the concept of liminality. Not to mention the fact that to a certain extent transition can be considered subjective. A hotel maybe transitional to its patrons and guests but not to someone that works there. Same goes for students in a school vs faculty. Staying at a relatives house, going to a water park. For some these are places of transition. It doesn't always have to be, for example, a hallway staircase. Which would act as a liminality in pure essence.
I think i still sort of like them. But I don't think i've come across them a while in my personal instagram algorithm. Usually the place where I see them in my for you page is via one of those 90s/80s core pages or places that say liminal something. And I think all the time the images of those empty creepy peaceful spaces of those eras always have that one song...You know the one? I can't recall the title. I never bothered to look it up. 😅But hope you know the one I mean. I kind of assume this song just became the default social code/meme for whenever you wanted to refer that something was a liminal space or some kind of cozy late 80s early 90s core thing meant to evoke a sense of nostalgia. wait, I FOUND IT! it was called: scizzie - aquatic ambience this was the song for a majority of the nostalgia 80s/90s liminal space core videos that I assumed were the main standard for that sort of genre.
We've more or less heard this for years, now. Liminal spaces work when you happen upon them organically. When you're at the point where your main creative output is a variation of a variation of a variation of a subtype, except YOUR version has YOUR idea of a creepy monster stuffed into it; that's really not liminal at all, anymore. It's left liminality and it's slipped into standard Horror, or general-purpose worldbuilding. Consider Control and its main locale, The Oldest House. I've heard the place being called liminal, but the fact is it isn't. There isn't a single place on Earth that looks exactly like The Oldest House - especially not in Manhattan, where its containing building is said to be located. It has elements we'd recognize from the real world - Brutalist design, sterile Mid-Century corporate or institutional design - but assembled in a way that doesn't even try to approach Reality as we know it. Real liminal spaces always have the sense that they're just a step away from being real - or once WERE real at some other point in time. Levels in the Backrooms that lean on urban or suburban settings, or on stretches of open countryside, are a lot more convincing and properly liminal than, say, levels that take schoolyard aesthetics, flip a switch and then suggest that Something Out There Wants to Kill You. Simply put, we've long since left liminality behind and now have several creators that basically lean quite hard into what I'll call Blender Porn. They make really impressive videos and co-opting the trend is going to give them one heck of a VFX portfolio - but their stuff is hardly liminal at all, anymore.
7:21 (...it felt kind of wrong) I kind of felt the opposite with the reduction of people. For me it felt really peaceful and relaxing for once. Due to high traffic being the area I frequented was known for, it actually felt nice to have a break from the high population and major traffic for once. And actually being able to get where I needed to go at a decent time and having a smooth drive.
@@TwinRiver100 oh yeah, having no one around was my favorite thing ab covid. I loved going places and not having to worry about others -- maybe I miss worded that. Wrong just felt right to say in the context of Liminality. Thanks for your testimony
No not at all. I am still favored with Liminal Spaces. It calms me a lot and i enjoy them. Sometimes if there's a chance, i visit them somewhere. When are you gonna do a stream again?
Revisiting liminal spaces sounds like it would be a lot of fun. Not sure when I'll stream again but definitely soon as I'm doing another edits competition 😸
no I am not tired of them but it is a trend, and people will find something new. I will not and will hyperfixate, but most will move on and enjoy the rare moments they see it again.
Honestly, I’ve been burnt out of spaces for a good bit. I think it’s a mixture of over-saturation and the overall repetition. Ive seen a lot of photos that, after a while, I think it’s just not worth it anymore. They just don’t feel the same way because of how much I’ve already seen, and it sucks because I like this community, but I just don’t feel anything looking at liminal spaces anymore. It’s 100% reasonable to see how I am “not a true liminal spacer if I cant enjoy liminal space images,” but theres no point. I cant smoke a pipe thats been painted on a canvas.
Hmm, for me I'd say that would be the case for nostalgia and the older I get the less liminality I feel. Since as I get older the more I can understand the feeling, versus nostalgia when I'm longing for times past.
@@ShookeyLiminality does not cease to exist. In fact, the older we get, the more likely we are to find liminal spaces, as we will get lonelier and lonelier and Alzheimers will make even the most familiar things alien to us, and our last memories will be found in awfully lonely, familiar yet unfamiliar places.
@@Shookey I just really want cursed images to make a comeback. I miss looking at the most absurd things known to man while bonfire by Childish Gambino plays.
@@shannondouglas8423 Of course I remember you Shannon! I always kept you in my thoughts because I thought you had passed on due to the terminal illness. I am so overjoyed to know that you are alive and I sincerely hope you are doing well! It's really great to hear from you once again ❤️🩹
were not tired of them, but most popular youtubers are spreading misinformation about what it is, apraently you aswell in the intro of this video, and the actual liminal is not as popular because its not as scary
Love the video
I don’t think we’re tired of them, Heck I’m not, but I think aside from all the well known and popular liminal spaces, people definitely haven’t cared as much or been as creative as it was maybe 2-3 years ago
if you take a break from looking at liminal spaces for a while then when you rerdiscover it, it's a cool feeling.
@@jimbolaya2 thank you Butthead
@@Shookey you're welcome beavis
@@jimbolaya2I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE
@@Shookey ಠ_ಠ
I'm tired of looking at liminal spaces through a screen
however, actually finding them in person is an addicting feeling, and I can't get enough of them
@@gekinatracksuit9710 absolutely. There's nothing like happening upon a liminal space and real life and thinking: oh this is going to make for a great photo
problem is that people just milked so much out of them that it kind of lost the original meaning, like when u search abt liminal spaces u often see a random instagrammer wanting to show themselves in a liminal space ruining the whole composition. when people add stuff it lose the liminal feeling and maybe this happens because the general population really hate the emptiness and want to fill with something.
also many liminal spaces are from either europe or USA and theres little explorations of countries outside of this, here in brazil theres lots of landscapes but almost nobody takes pictures of these liminal spaces to share online. i myself am someone that always take a picture whenever i got the chance and maybe i could share with u somewhere so u can talk abt some places here and in other countries.
gosh north korea is a museum of liminality.
@@jktech2117 yeah, I definitely like to see liminal spaces outside of the USA and Europe, I recent made a video on Indonesian Liminal Spaces and plan to do one for S Korea so it's funny you mention N Korea. Although, liminal spaces not from our world are very interesting too. Basically Liminal Spaces from fictional places like video games 😺
@@Shookey u could look at some old games like TES daggerfall and arena, even though the game is in a medieval setting the graphics makes all feel really liminal and music also does this
0:59 oh my god I feel so honored thank you so much for using that blender render I made
@@TitusX49 yeah always, I just wasn't 100% sure if you made it or just sent it. Thanks for clearing it up! Awesome blender render btw!!
So long as there are fresh ideas/art out there, I'm always down for more. Much like Vaporwave, I haven't tired of it one bit; going on 10 years now (or thereabouts) -- Great upload.
I forget when I first started hearing vaporwave. But I think it's still relatively new. But also my sense of time has been altered I think due to age and now mostly being able to kind of remember loose feelings and relative roundabout times if not exact years and dates. Unless I wrote something down for that particular date or can find something else as a marker to help me place it.
I think i sort of recall coming across Vaporwave sometime between 2018/2019 and 2020. Also I think I looked into something called Lazerhawk that I think someone told me about back in 2017.
I wouldn't say people are tired of it but the initial boom in 2021/2022 has definitely passed. I'd say if anything it's having a little bit of a comeback. I think a lot of people got kinda burned out of it for a couple years just because of all the junk and bad horror crap, but I think it'll kinda persist as its own ongoing kinda niche thing with its fans sharing and experiencing art, including its various other facets like weirdcore and yeah i guess even the horror stuff. It's just a consistently cozy thing to come back to when you can find the right things.
Not all styles and subjects are for everyone of course, and it's also not reasonable for someone to have the same interest all the time. it may come in and out, maybe just different depending on the day/time/mood/whatever.
I find a modern pattern with liminal spaces over the past year or so is a heavy lean in to the "nostalgic", which I dunno, just isn't very much the right feeling for me. It's always going to be someone else's home or bedroom or school or whatever. The best ones were the ones where it is almost kinda generic enough that it's more in to that territory of "a bit weird or off", or even is just weird or off in some way such that you take a moment to notice it because something isn't quite right. Obviously there's nothing wrong with the purely nostalgic side of it, but I'm just not a very nostalgic person, so it's not for me, so it would be nice to more easily find other things. I can appreciate style and architecture from a previous time not because it's from that time, but because there is something notably different or strange about it.
Overall, I think it's just such a fundamental part of our experience on some level to have some feeling about an unusual place or a familiar place in an unusual state or just a place with some kind of unique character to it that gives it a particular feeling that I think this whole thing will probably be around for a long time to some degree, even if it's defined in some different way. It's just become more mainstream that some kind of acknowledgement of this phenomenon is made.
Also a few weeks ago i was listening to slowed down mystery meat abstract map too haha.
This video was amazing! Great analysis, I basically feel the same way about liminal spaces as of now. One thing that you did make me realize is that actively seeking out liminal spaces makes them lose some of their charm, and this is especially true for me since I used to run a liminal space blog type thing. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy seeing these images, just don't hit as hard as they used to.
I will never tire of liminal spaces, sure with its popularity comes oversaturation of the topic, and most people who enjoyed it as a fad have already moved on.
I'm always interested in strange nostalgic spaces, dreamy locations and abandoned buildings.
Also what music did you use in this video? i liked the one at 9:30
Havent watched the video yet but for me personally, no I replayed yume nikki yesterday and am infact not tired of that eerie lonely vibe
you will be when im done with you
@@Shookey I don't know if thats a threat or not :(
But yeah good video
@@amagicalbeing7427not a threat, but a Shookey one of kind guarantee 😸😺👍
Cyberpunk is pretty much done to death now too. I've always liked cyberpunk so I'm not going to get tired of it but it's still feeling a bit worn even for me. I haven't even played the 2077 game yet. Time for everyone to move on to frutiger aero nostalgia?
I find that the problem with cyberpunk is that it's used too much in a broad sense. Most people when talking about it, refer to it as if it's some kind of aesthetic. When in reality, cyberpunk is a genre which spawned from literature, much like fantasy (Books like Neuromancer are an example of this). With its contemporary popularity, coming mainly out of Hollywood with movies like Blade Runner and in our current day with as you mentioned, 2077, people unfortunately are not accurately educated with what cyberpunk really is.
No, I’m still on a journey to find design inspiration from liminal space. There have been lots of good one but it’s getting harder to find the one that grab you
@@Stevedawhoop and that feeling only gets worse the more you look at them. Of course I still like them, but I'm not in ignorance to know when they've become stale or over done. At least for me, they've definitely lost significance.
think another reason why liminal spaces have been falling out of fashion lately is because of that same nostalgia you mentioned, which is so engrained in liminal photography. Many of the places in the infamous liminal space images are no longer something that most of the people seeing them can consider nostalgic. Shopping malls, playgrounds, hotels, and et cetera look a lot different nowadays than what they did ten or twenty years ago. Asking people of ages 15-30 what kind of rugs they remember from their childhood, wallpapers or even the type of phone camera they used to take images with with produce widely different results, and they're the demographic that uses the internet the most. It's something I've struggled with when looking for liminal spaces on the internet, because the time and place most of this liminal/dream spaces/dreamcore genre is not something I got to experience. We never had arcades here, or ice cream trucks or family diners with mascots here, so liminal images of those are just... not liminal to me. That "places where you've been before/saw in your dreams" part of them is just not there. And I think that's something that's going to be even more evident as time passes and more people who belong to younger generations take over the internet (lol). But I doubt it will make the genra die out. I love taking pictures of empty places I remember from my childhood and each day I see more and more "oddly familiar places you've seen in your dreams [soviet version]" popping up. I'm projecting, obviously, and this is likely not as big of a deal as I'm making it, but I wanted to try and share my thoughts regardless. What's I'm trying to say is: adapt, improvise, overcome.
It's just not a full time thing. Every summer (since 2021) i watch your liminal space videos and they're always fun, even re-watching the older ones.
Personally, no. I still love them a lot.
I love looking at images online, being in them irl, taking my own pics, etc.
I'm a street musician, and the main place I play my instruments in is a mall. I usually stay there late after university. The guards already know me, so I get some time to be in some areas of the closing mall. And the feeling of being there is just relaxing. Eerie but extremely pleasing at the same time.
I do urbex from time to time as well, same feeling of anemoia and nostalgia, I just love it.
@@SasiakGnarly so you actually get to feel true Liminality from irl experiences rather then just looking at various photos online. Which is where I find many of the problems may occur when it comes to things like indifference within seeking Liminality through Liminal Space photos. Good on ya
i also feel like how open you are to experiencing the nostalgia and the eerie peace of liminal spaces depends on where you are mentally; at least it seems to be like that for me
that in context that since the pandemic and its bigger effects have ended we are all forced into functioning within this fast paced life seems to drain people from the ability to just Sit With Feelings sometimes.
This is what I've been saying for so long.
Amazing video Shookey. You never disappoint.
I still enjoy liminal space, just not as much as I did 3 to 4 -ish years ago. during my obsession with liminal spaces, I absolutely loved your content.
Thanks, as the kids would say today -- I fell off
0:59 Omg you used the angry video game nerd photo 😭
yeah 😹 it was too good not to use. i just cant unsee all the weird edits yall made with it
@@Shookey I’m the only one who made the edits ~_~
But same all I can see is the avgn and Obama
I like the definition of something that is no more and never actually was. The need to find feelings organically, including the feeling of liminality, is a great argument. I have been photo blogging abandoned locations since 2010. There is no question that the vibe existed before lock-downs, but also no question that they are more popular now than before. I think in terms of oversaturation, the main thing is that people automatically try to distance themselves from the mainstream when it comes to art. Right now, liminality is the main stream. I wonder how we will feel when the interest crest, and we are once again "weird" for enjoying the lightly creepy emptiness. My guess is it will feel refreshing.
Love everything about your comment. Thanks for checking out the video :3
13:31 That's from Edward Scissorhands. The Shining movie and Twin Peaks tv show had some eerie liminal type shots.
Liminal spaces, in my opinion, were always a warning of the fragility of time. Time never stops for anything, it just simply moves forward. In the case of liminal spaces, they were caught by circumstances, left behind by time to rot, becoming symbols for something lost. The point of looking to the past is being able to reflect, hopefully using their lessons to better the present and future. Sticking to the past leaves a person stagnant to what lies in front of them, as well as beyond them. Liminal spaces captured a child-like wonder in many of us because it reminded us of a past long gone. The over-saturation of liminal spaces has and always will taint that wonder. It loses that wonder once held, reducing it to nothing more than grainy images that are somewhat creepy. As transitional spaces, liminal spaces were created to be a lens to the past. What lesson, or more-so warning were they trying to tell us?
Things are always changing. One minute, a mall would be filled with life and activity, the next minute the mall is reduced to a husk. Change is apparent throughout liminal spaces, warning us how fragile a moment really could be. When you become oversaturated from liminal spaces, that’s sign that maybe you’ve missed the lesson they were trying to teach you. Instead of peering into a past you’ve never had, use the present to live, and the future to hope. Be in the moment, instead of a moment long past its prime.
In summary, liminal spaces were made to teach viewers about cherishing the moment they have in the present, and the hope they can carry for the future, because eventually, time always catches up to those moments, claiming them as trophies of a decade past, a liminal space.
What you described is kenopsia, not liminality.
thank you shookey ^^ missed this kind of content
Thank YOU Ayla for checking out the vidya! I'm very glad you liked it 😁
I'm not tired of Liminal Spaces but tired of serving in the Army... 😢
Great video as always shooks👍
I always keep you in my prayers 🙏
3:03 sent me into the stratosphere 💀😂
Was waiting for someone to catch that 😹
I agree that it probably is that the surge in popularity of these kinds of photos and aesthetics has become oversaturated and in some ways diluted by lower quality additions to the pool. Some people didn't understand and tried to contribute, some were intentionally exploitative, and just like anything that gets majorly popular these things increase over time until it doesn't feel the same as it initially did. That being said, it's not like it's their fault for so many people falling out of love with the genre, like you said exposure slowly drains the excitement from things. Either way, I still like these kinds of images cool and they're nice to see every once in a while. Hope life has been treating you well! Peace :)
I still enjoy liminal spaces and don't feel tired, but I can see how they might feel less interesting if you see pictures of very similar or the same places many times. What brings up new interest in liminal spaces is discovering new and unique ones, especially in unexpected places. And taking a break and getting into it again after a while definitely helps in keeping up the interest, liminality is a feeling after all that can be evoked by many different and unexpected places.
Glad you keep liminal spaces as a main topic of your channel, you build up a community of liminal space enthusiasts, keep up the great content bro 👍
Finally someone said it. Personally im kinda sick of the genre but i love this channels origins as an analyitical channel rather than a content farm for it
Really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this phenomenon. Thanks for sharing this. :)
@@ThomasGrillo really glad you enjoyed the video, thank you a bunch 😺
I think the fact that that era is getting distant just makes it even more weird feeling
Liminal spaces are my Obsession! Heck, I have an entire Instagram account dedicated to it! I couldn’t see myself getting tired of it. It is a huge part of my life
For me what made liminal spaces tiresome was the oversaturation of explanations within the world of liminality. What made it special for me was that liminal spaces was the embodiment of a memory and the reality of what happened if you went back.. that being nothing. It was the obscurity that made the feel of liminal spaces not the well versed lore and law added nowadays. Id be more scared being a dimension whose laws i dont know.
But regardless, i think you bring alot of refreshing things to liminal spaces and still keep them in their original eerieness. Keep it up shookey
Ever since the pandemic happened and the backrooms were spawned into the realm of fiction I've had a fascination with the concept of being completely alone in an endless maze of familiarity. With social anxiety and no friends I could visit in the real world the loneliness I felt was sort of comfortable when paired with the idea of the Liminal, the concept of Kenopsia. Four years later and I feel I am still trapped in the fictional world of a time long past, and a time yet to come. It's hard to connect with another person on an emotional level because I'm so used to feeling numb and distant, so I like to build empty worlds designed for people, but lacking people. It's a bittersweet endeavor to have only myself to talk to, to understand, in these worlds. I have become a ghost in my own machine. Stay dreaming, the real world isn't ready for you. ✨
As a Liminal Space photographer, I do find myself falling into a repetition with all the hallway photos I have. Recently, I've been trying to find more unique scenes which is why I basically only take 30 or less new photos every year. I don't have or ever believe I'll get burnout from it...but that's why I say you can't FORCE a Liminal Space to pop out of nowhere. It takes me a while to notice one. And similarly to what you said, everyone has a personal preference and different view on things...so I don't think it's possible LS will fall out since new folks will always take place over time.
Appreciate you mate and I certainly agree with your commentary. However, you post some banger LS on your IG 🤘
This is such a good video. I've always loved liminal spaces and I'm still working on a game on Roblox for 2 years about the liminal space concept. Although I've gotten pretty desensitized, sometimes it hits me. My mum and dad watch lots of movies and in those movies I hear about them talking about liminal spaces sometimes in 2024. Liminality is known globally, and liminal spaces will never die
That's awesome, I'd love to check out your game sometime when you finish it. Also, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😸
NOOO I will never be tired of liminal spaces they bring me so much comfort and even show up in my dreams 💖
So what you're saying is... When you're tired you see Liminal Spaces 😹
I still love liminal spaces. My problem with the current liminal space lovers is the fact that they always try to make them into some sort of creepy pasta or analog horror. Also the fact that they try to take blurred out screenshots of SpongeBob and Minecraft and call them “liminal space” when those completely miss the point of actual liminal space. And finally, we aren’t getting any new photos from what I’ve seen. Just cgi rooms or re-edited versions of older liminal spaces
I think we are tired because liminal spaces are now used as a horror genre like the backrooms and since the use of liminal spaces has been overused, yes we have moved on
I was waiting for someone to come out in the open and point this out. I'm about 3 weeks late to this video but only because I've been trying to survive in this industrial jungle called life with the cost of living in general becoming the new nightmare.
That said.
I'm not tired of them just yet but under the condition it's either 1. Late 90s to early 2000s in theme or 2. So surrral and weirdcore trippy and euclidean in nature it's impossible to exist in our reality.
If it's just the typical liminal space standard I'm less inclined to check it out anymore.
Not incredibly relevant, but I'm a fan of Magic: The Gathering and they have an upcoming expansion based on "modern horror". In some of the super duper ridiculously early previews, there have been one or two landscapes that are almost liminal adjacent. A huge empty room with marble floors, all the furniture, windows, and doors covered in heavy white drapes, a vast forest with trees whose branches intertwine into door frames that somehow lead to other rooms, inexplicable indoor pools in the middle of hallways, those kinds of things. I'm honestly digging the whole aesthetic of the set and want to get the landscapes from it just to have and look at. It might say something though that media giants like Hasbro are now trying to take something as abstract and community based as liminal space art and put it on trading cards.
Bro I’m never tired of these
Heard -- never tired of these
I’ve definitely lost interest in them. But I do think they will definitely have a huge comeback soon. Liminal spaces and mostly the feeling it gives are something that almost feels universal. Like everyone can look at these photos and feel something or be brought back to a memory. So I don’t think it’ll ever truly go away
I took a break from it in general. Mostly just not having them come up as often in recommendations and gmod workshop has very few atmospheric maps since at least a year (though many by shortnamesalex have been pretty good if a bit small). I've consistently been watching "liminal AI" when they'd upload but not much more, but nowadays you have people feeding the images in to generative video AIs and yeah yeah i know AI is killing art and all that, but given the right training it does seem to do exceptionally well at its own flavor of liminal spaces that don't replace human artists and photography in this case. But in general i've been pretty out of it compared to a couple years ago. I'm not sick of it, and I hope it becomes a healthy genre of art again so I can find more joy in it.
Even during the peak of liminal spaces, I only ever actively seeked out content containing them, when certain specific conditions where met, one of which being that I was feeling anxious or nostalgic. In the beginning they did give me the usual feeling one has when looking at them, but over time they started giving off an oddly comforting feel, that I can't really explain.
It just felt wrong, consuming liminal space content all the time.
Now backrooms content is a whole other paragraph, I could write, but I'm not gonna. I'm just not.🙃
"I'm just not 🙃" 😹😹
Oh man Tourma you kill me. I can't even remember the last time I felt anxious or nostalgic from a limspac image. Unfortunately I lost that feel a way long time ago 😭
@@Shookey I figured it was a Me-thing anyway.😅
Very very well said all around
I still enjoy them. Maybe not quite as much as before, but I still have a fondness for them.
I still love them a lot
@@mistahty my guy 💪
agree, problem with the backrooms especially and many liminal spaces is that ive seen them so much I dont feel liminal no more
In this case, it unfortunately comes down to familiarity. Especially because liminal spaces deal so much with mystery 🐱
@@Shookey yeah, when the backrooms felt like a mall in West Virginia I visited in 2008 or something it felt more mysterious than men in hazmat suits fighting huggy wuggy
3:01 why the fuck did that actually get me
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It feels like so many people ignore the most important part of liminal spaces, the fact they have to be transitional. I see so many that just aren't transitional spaces.
It also feels like people make them out to be far more philosophical than they are.
@@voidsludge1254 I find that liminal spaces are inherently philosophical considering they're based on the concept of liminality. Not to mention the fact that to a certain extent transition can be considered subjective. A hotel maybe transitional to its patrons and guests but not to someone that works there. Same goes for students in a school vs faculty. Staying at a relatives house, going to a water park. For some these are places of transition. It doesn't always have to be, for example, a hallway staircase. Which would act as a liminality in pure essence.
I think i still sort of like them. But I don't think i've come across them a while in my personal instagram algorithm. Usually the place where I see them in my for you page is via one of those 90s/80s core pages or places that say liminal something. And I think all the time the images of those empty creepy peaceful spaces of those eras always have that one song...You know the one? I can't recall the title. I never bothered to look it up. 😅But hope you know the one I mean.
I kind of assume this song just became the default social code/meme for whenever you wanted to refer that something was a liminal space or some kind of cozy late 80s early 90s core thing meant to evoke a sense of nostalgia.
wait, I FOUND IT!
it was called:
scizzie - aquatic ambience
this was the song for a majority of the nostalgia 80s/90s liminal space core videos that I assumed were the main standard for that sort of genre.
Good video I’m from the 90s and I always liked liminal spaces
It's my birthday today. Feeling especially liminal mixed with existential.
@@StyleshStorm Happy birthday 🎂🎈🥳🧁✨🎉🎊🎶🎁
Shokey do you have a list of all the music used in the video??
We've more or less heard this for years, now. Liminal spaces work when you happen upon them organically. When you're at the point where your main creative output is a variation of a variation of a variation of a subtype, except YOUR version has YOUR idea of a creepy monster stuffed into it; that's really not liminal at all, anymore. It's left liminality and it's slipped into standard Horror, or general-purpose worldbuilding.
Consider Control and its main locale, The Oldest House. I've heard the place being called liminal, but the fact is it isn't. There isn't a single place on Earth that looks exactly like The Oldest House - especially not in Manhattan, where its containing building is said to be located. It has elements we'd recognize from the real world - Brutalist design, sterile Mid-Century corporate or institutional design - but assembled in a way that doesn't even try to approach Reality as we know it.
Real liminal spaces always have the sense that they're just a step away from being real - or once WERE real at some other point in time. Levels in the Backrooms that lean on urban or suburban settings, or on stretches of open countryside, are a lot more convincing and properly liminal than, say, levels that take schoolyard aesthetics, flip a switch and then suggest that Something Out There Wants to Kill You.
Simply put, we've long since left liminality behind and now have several creators that basically lean quite hard into what I'll call Blender Porn. They make really impressive videos and co-opting the trend is going to give them one heck of a VFX portfolio - but their stuff is hardly liminal at all, anymore.
7:21 (...it felt kind of wrong)
I kind of felt the opposite with the reduction of people. For me it felt really peaceful and relaxing for once. Due to high traffic being the area I frequented was known for, it actually felt nice to have a break from the high population and major traffic for once. And actually being able to get where I needed to go at a decent time and having a smooth drive.
@@TwinRiver100 oh yeah, having no one around was my favorite thing ab covid. I loved going places and not having to worry about others -- maybe I miss worded that. Wrong just felt right to say in the context of Liminality. Thanks for your testimony
@@Shookey thanks for hearing me out. ❤
Great Video:) What is the game being played at the start? Thanks:)
Lost Memories || Liminal Spaces || VR || by @TemariNaara on ROBLOX
is that shadow of the erdtree music in the background?
They were never saints. They just happened to be on the losing side of a war.
Sick of passing through places. It is time to ARRIVE.
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No not at all. I am still favored with Liminal Spaces. It calms me a lot and i enjoy them. Sometimes if there's a chance, i visit them somewhere. When are you gonna do a stream again?
Revisiting liminal spaces sounds like it would be a lot of fun. Not sure when I'll stream again but definitely soon as I'm doing another edits competition 😸
no I am not tired of them but it is a trend, and people will find something new.
I will not and will hyperfixate, but most will move on and enjoy the rare moments they see it again.
Vaporwave is dead, long live vaporwave. Liminal spaces are dead, long live liminal spaces.
Honestly, I’ve been burnt out of spaces for a good bit. I think it’s a mixture of over-saturation and the overall repetition. Ive seen a lot of photos that, after a while, I think it’s just not worth it anymore. They just don’t feel the same way because of how much I’ve already seen, and it sucks because I like this community, but I just don’t feel anything looking at liminal spaces anymore. It’s 100% reasonable to see how I am “not a true liminal spacer if I cant enjoy liminal space images,” but theres no point. I cant smoke a pipe thats been painted on a canvas.
You'll always be a true liminal spacer to me TV
It's funny I made the photo in my pfp and I still see it in content today.
@@Mosaknows very cool, nice to meet you creator
"are we tired of liminal spaces?" what year are we in? did I get transported back to 2021? I cannot believe this is a real video lol
Yes. You have been in a coma for three years. WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP
We will never get over liminal spaces. The older we get, the more liminality we will feel.
Hmm, for me I'd say that would be the case for nostalgia and the older I get the less liminality I feel. Since as I get older the more I can understand the feeling, versus nostalgia when I'm longing for times past.
@@ShookeyLiminality does not cease to exist. In fact, the older we get, the more likely we are to find liminal spaces, as we will get lonelier and lonelier and Alzheimers will make even the most familiar things alien to us, and our last memories will be found in awfully lonely, familiar yet unfamiliar places.
Liminal spaces were mainly buildings from the 70s or before that scared Zoomers
The children yearn for more videos of images of liminal spaces/absurd images compiled together while some music plays.
The children yern for more Backrooms level 81957 30 minute analysis videos complete with entities and people of interest
@@Shookey I just really want cursed images to make a comeback. I miss looking at the most absurd things known to man while bonfire by Childish Gambino plays.
Real (harry needs help)
Is it alive, does it writhe? Can it survive on the web? I Can’t Put My Finger On It
Is it a pool, Is it source? Is it saturated or is it dead? I Can’t Put My Finger On It
They make me tired but im not tired of them
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Me still uploading Backrooms videos almost 3 years later..
@@ExploringTheBackrooms more power to you, especially if you enjoy it. They are different though 😸
No. Next Question.
Keep making videos.
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did you use music from the elden ring dlc in this video? based as
I presume you, too, are keen to know. Just what Kind Miquella is doing here.
Sup my brother you probably don't remember me but it is Shannon
@@shannondouglas8423 Of course I remember you Shannon! I always kept you in my thoughts because I thought you had passed on due to the terminal illness. I am so overjoyed to know that you are alive and I sincerely hope you are doing well! It's really great to hear from you once again ❤️🩹
@@Shookey Sorry for not talking to you but my WiFi went out
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there's plenty of skibidi backrooms stuff out there haha. I guess that makes it appealing to toddlers. :p
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were not tired of them, but most popular youtubers are spreading misinformation about what it is, apraently you aswell in the intro of this video, and the actual liminal is not as popular because its not as scary
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by misinformation? At what point did I spread misinformation??
@@Shookey idk I’m lazy and you ended up using correct images so idc with this specific video honestly
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