I'm waiting for these exact boots (well, with the one piece heel stay) to be built. I cannot wait!! This was the video that made my decision to take the plunge...and followed the advice and waited for the 20% off sale!!
Just ordered a pair of the plain toe MP-M1 natty Chromexcel with Dainite from Domestic Domestic for $476. They were included in the 30% off sale that just ended. Gotta say they're my grail boots and I didn't think I would get them already, but I couldn't pass up that deal.
Sir. Those are a good looking pair of boots. I've had my eyes on this model as well as a few models from Nick's. Thank you very much for this well detailed and informative video. Do you have any boots from Nick's Boots?
I'm disappointed you're not using Australian leather wax for this leather 🙂 Though I have a ridiculous number of boots when it comes to the rough stuff I would always grab a pair of "proper" hiking boots like my Scarpa Delta or Meindl Burma boots. Which is why I struggle to see the purpose of such an overbuilt boot, especially when supplied with a Dainite sole. They won't meet many of the safety standards for work boots, they are not optimal for stuff like mountaineering or hard hiking in snow and ice or deep mud and bog etc. yet they weigh more, cost more and take a long time to break in. Even the arch support can be replicated with off the shelf orthotic insoles (assuming the boot is sized correctly). Something like Grant Stone seems to fit the role of everyday use, heritage style boots better to me . That's not to say that I'll never get a pair 🙂 but they definitely seem to be something you buy with your heart and not your head. BTW, I feel the same about my two pair of Vibergs and they're lighter.
@@Bootlosophy I haven't but I'm UK based. I did buy Australian Leather Wax from Amazon when I was experimenting with lots of products a while back. To be honest, I didn't like it for conditioning and the texture was very sticky and not easy to apply as a wax. It was obviously designed for use in much warmer temperatures than the UK 🙂 However, I think it would make a great wax for re-waxing waxy suede boots. The two best leather conditioners I tried (though there are a HUGE number out there) were Chambers Leather Balsam (from UK) and Rihard Leather Balsam (Germany). Chambers was developed by a company that supplies leather props to the film and TV industry and decided they wanted something better than was readily available. I was also trying many variants containing mink oil and the best I tried for waterproofing and conditioning boots for rough stuff and particularly really wet conditions was the Harkila Mink Oil Leather Care (Finnish). This is definitely not for dress shoes and has a "distinctive" odour when first applied but was obviously developed for hunting in Finland's million lakes and endless bog. These were all available from Amazon.
Excellent review. I just compared the MP Sherman to the Higgins Mill. Both in chromexcel. I ended keeping the Higgins Mill do to better fit and less weight. The shank in the MP bothered my feet and I didn’t know if it would get better after breaking in.
Teik, excellent video. I've just stumbled across your channel! Finally, you have explained the rolled welt stitchdown construction of my MP's that has eluded me. You're a pleasure to listen to, and Morning coffee pairs well with your videos
Excellent video - you convinced me with your wonderful review and presentation. I really appreciated how you explained the waxed leather process and will consider it now. Thank you so much.
Love the channel! I just picked some up in brown waxed flesh. Would love a vid on care and conditioning waxed flesh. Especially when wax wears off and rough out comes throug
@@SidW-l4z it’s hard to get too excited about the patina development of most of my boots because the rotation of so many pairs is loooong in between wears! 🤪
Wow these look so much sleeker than our normal 55 boots. Do they really have toe box counter? Structured 55 toe box would look so...roundish and thicker.
I love how these boots look and thinking of getting the commando half-lug version in olive waxed flesh. I have 3 pairs of White’s work boots fully custom, all with Horween waxed flesh and Kevlar stitching. I must say that on my boots, I’m very unimpressed with the consistency of the stitching; especially on the heel counter and vertical stitching of the pull-loop on the back. The spacing is very inconsistent between the 3 parallel rows and seems very rushed or like someone very inexperienced worked on them. All 3 or my pairs are like this. The fact that the tan stitching contrasts the brown leather makes it extremely noticeable. Do you think if I ordered an off-the-shelf pair of these MP-M1’s, the stitching would be better?
@@Bootlosophy ok. Maybe it’s just something that everyone accepts with White’s. I appreciate all the detail and history you go into with your reviews. You do a great job. Thank you.
Hi Tiekoh. I have a 350 Cutter in a 7D, 55 last. (I'm a 7.7D brannock). It fits pretty good except I feel that the arch is too far back in my heel. I still wear them because my feet get used to them after walking for a while. I'd like to try the MP's in the same size because the heel isn't as high. Being between sizes can make it more difficult to size. Baker's recommends a 7D for me. Thanks for the video. I think the Nicks Americana is chunckier than the MP and the MP looks better. The Nicks Falcon is a fantastic boot too.
I have some Alden 405's that have served me well and have a lot of miles, but I really want this boot in Waxed flesh to rotate with them. I know the 55 last is easier on the toe box and not as snug as the MP/Barrie. What size would you get if you wear Alden's in 9.5D?
I’m trying to figure out which leather conditioner would be best for the cinnamon waxed flesh in restoring them to their original appearance. I heard some conditioners darken the leather. Anyone have suggestions on a good waxy conditioner to restore the original appearance without darken the leather?
I’ve used a good beeswax conditioner in Java Waxed Flesh with no ill effects. I’ve also rewaxed a waxy commander Grant Stone Edward (video on my channel)
@@Bootlosophy thank you for replying. I see that you used otter wax for the job and also recommended smiths leather balm to wax them again. I suppose either of those would work. I’ll give one of them a try when the time comes to rewax them.
Hi thanks for the video. Love the content. I am a little confused, as you say that this MP-M1 uses the 55 last, but as far as i can see from their website it also uses the same MP last as the Shermans? So why the different fit? Am I missing something?
So it’s a full grain leather huh? I tried calling horween earlier because I was wondering if it was full grain or not but wasn’t able to get an answer as yet then I watched your video and heard you saying it was a full grain leather? How do you know for sure if it’s full grain or not?
The wax is almost black when new, and only when it wears off does that yellow come out. Check out Jimmy's channel - Trinity Handmade, and also Harker's Leatherworks. I'm not sure I'm going to like the yellowness, but let's see.
Boot companies should hire you
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@@Bootlosophy i actually contacted them and they said it was a full grain leather
I'm waiting for these exact boots (well, with the one piece heel stay) to be built. I cannot wait!! This was the video that made my decision to take the plunge...and followed the advice and waited for the 20% off sale!!
Great video Teik; keep up the wonderful content.
Just ordered a pair of the plain toe MP-M1 natty Chromexcel with Dainite from Domestic Domestic for $476. They were included in the 30% off sale that just ended. Gotta say they're my grail boots and I didn't think I would get them already, but I couldn't pass up that deal.
Those are some beautiful boots! I ordered my pair through bakers with their holiday sale. 55 last, excited to get these in like 7 months 😅
Have you got the shoes yet, and if so, how are they?
Love the video Tiek. Ty for taking the time to explain in detail.
This is my favorite boot channel!
These are my grail boats as well Teik...thanks for the review!
This is the color I am looking at for a pair of White's boots.
Sir. Those are a good looking pair of boots. I've had my eyes on this model as well as a few models from Nick's. Thank you very much for this well detailed and informative video. Do you have any boots from Nick's Boots?
I'm disappointed you're not using Australian leather wax for this leather 🙂
Though I have a ridiculous number of boots when it comes to the rough stuff I would always grab a pair of "proper" hiking boots like my Scarpa Delta or Meindl Burma boots.
Which is why I struggle to see the purpose of such an overbuilt boot, especially when supplied with a Dainite sole.
They won't meet many of the safety standards for work boots, they are not optimal for stuff like mountaineering or hard hiking in snow and ice or deep mud and bog etc. yet they weigh more, cost more and take a long time to break in. Even the arch support can be replicated with off the shelf orthotic insoles (assuming the boot is sized correctly).
Something like Grant Stone seems to fit the role of everyday use, heritage style boots better to me .
That's not to say that I'll never get a pair 🙂 but they definitely seem to be something you buy with your heart and not your head.
BTW, I feel the same about my two pair of Vibergs and they're lighter.
I often use Oakwood products as well as RMW. Have you tried a brand called Artisan’s Son? Great oils and balms
@@Bootlosophy I haven't but I'm UK based. I did buy Australian Leather Wax from Amazon when I was experimenting with lots of products a while back.
To be honest, I didn't like it for conditioning and the texture was very sticky and not easy to apply as a wax. It was obviously designed for use in much warmer temperatures than the UK 🙂
However, I think it would make a great wax for re-waxing waxy suede boots.
The two best leather conditioners I tried (though there are a HUGE number out there) were Chambers Leather Balsam (from UK) and Rihard Leather Balsam (Germany).
Chambers was developed by a company that supplies leather props to the film and TV industry and decided they wanted something better than was readily available.
I was also trying many variants containing mink oil and the best I tried for waterproofing and conditioning boots for rough stuff and particularly really wet conditions was the Harkila Mink Oil Leather Care (Finnish). This is definitely not for dress shoes and has a "distinctive" odour when first applied but was obviously developed for hunting in Finland's million lakes and endless bog.
These were all available from Amazon.
Excellent review. I just compared the MP Sherman to the Higgins Mill. Both in chromexcel. I ended keeping the Higgins Mill do to better fit and less weight. The shank in the MP bothered my feet and I didn’t know if it would get better after breaking in.
Great presentation as usual Teik. I have a pair of M1TC in natural CXL that I’m super excited for.
Teik, excellent video. I've just stumbled across your channel! Finally, you have explained the rolled welt stitchdown construction of my MP's that has eluded me. You're a pleasure to listen to, and Morning coffee pairs well with your videos
Thanks for the review! I really like these boots as well. I’ve got a pair in the shopping cart but haven’t been able to hit the pay button.
Very luxury ❤
I love mine!
Superb review, thanks
Excellent video - you convinced me with your wonderful review and presentation. I really appreciated how you explained the waxed leather process and will consider it now. Thank you so much.
Love the channel! I just picked some up in brown waxed flesh. Would love a vid on care and conditioning waxed flesh. Especially when wax wears off and rough out comes throug
I did one on waxed suede last week - waxed flesh care is similar
I like your videos too much. You sir are no good for my financial health.
I'd love a pair of Whites MP, but I'll need to wait until after I move to Norway in a few months 😏
Could you do a video on the aging and Patina of your collection? Thanks!
@@SidW-l4z it’s hard to get too excited about the patina development of most of my boots because the rotation of so many pairs is loooong in between wears! 🤪
I want these in Black Chromexcel
Turning into my grail boots :)
Thanks for the review! Now I know I will not be buying any Whites boots. ❤
Wow these look so much sleeker than our normal 55 boots. Do they really have toe box counter? Structured 55 toe box would look so...roundish and thicker.
I think I made a mistake, being an eBay purchase I took the details off the seller who ordered through Bakers. I think they might be 5050.
@@Bootlosophy That would make so much sense. They are beautiful boots nevertheless.
I think you could compare them to Truman Boots tho…which are cheaper
They are cheaper, and much as I love my Truman boots, you can see and feel why
Love the Commando Chelsea Teik. How would you compare them to Thursday boots sizing?
Teik, how does the sizing in these MPs compare to Grant Stone's Brass boot? thanks. Your videos are super helpful
I got the same size and it feels about the same
@@Bootlosophy great, thanks
Was it just me, or did you say that you prefer the two-piece back stay of the Sherman?
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I love how these boots look and thinking of getting the commando half-lug version in olive waxed flesh. I have 3 pairs of White’s work boots fully custom, all with Horween waxed flesh and Kevlar stitching. I must say that on my boots, I’m very unimpressed with the consistency of the stitching; especially on the heel counter and vertical stitching of the pull-loop on the back. The spacing is very inconsistent between the 3 parallel rows and seems very rushed or like someone very inexperienced worked on them. All 3 or my pairs are like this. The fact that the tan stitching contrasts the brown leather makes it extremely noticeable. Do you think if I ordered an off-the-shelf pair of these MP-M1’s, the stitching would be better?
I’m not sure, mine are not 100% consistent either
@@Bootlosophy ok. Maybe it’s just something that everyone accepts with White’s. I appreciate all the detail and history you go into with your reviews. You do a great job. Thank you.
Hi Tiekoh. I have a 350 Cutter in a 7D, 55 last. (I'm a 7.7D brannock). It fits pretty good except I feel that the arch is too far back in my heel. I still wear them because my feet get used to them after walking for a while. I'd like to try the MP's in the same size because the heel isn't as high. Being between sizes can make it more difficult to size. Baker's recommends a 7D for me. Thanks for the video. I think the Nicks Americana is chunckier than the MP and the MP looks better. The Nicks Falcon is a fantastic boot too.
I have some Alden 405's that have served me well and have a lot of miles, but I really want this boot in Waxed flesh to rotate with them. I know the 55 last is easier on the toe box and not as snug as the MP/Barrie. What size would you get if you wear Alden's in 9.5D?
Are you sure it’s build on a 55 last? I’m looking at the website and all the MP boots are build on the MP last… mine will arrive this Thursday MP-M1
MTO Bakers Boots
@@Bootlosophy I won’t question you again sensei!
I’m trying to figure out which leather conditioner would be best for the cinnamon waxed flesh in restoring them to their original appearance. I heard some conditioners darken the leather. Anyone have suggestions on a good waxy conditioner to restore the original appearance without darken the leather?
I’ve used a good beeswax conditioner in Java Waxed Flesh with no ill effects. I’ve also rewaxed a waxy commander Grant Stone Edward (video on my channel)
@@Bootlosophy thank you for replying. I see that you used otter wax for the job and also recommended smiths leather balm to wax them again. I suppose either of those would work. I’ll give one of them a try when the time comes to rewax them.
Hi thanks for the video. Love the content. I am a little confused, as you say that this MP-M1 uses the 55 last, but as far as i can see from their website it also uses the same MP last as the Shermans? So why the different fit? Am I missing something?
If you order them through Baker's shoes you can customize them including choosing between the MP, 55, and 5050 lasts.
MTO
Ok thanks. That explains it.
Nicks or whites if you had to chose ?
Both
So it’s a full grain leather huh? I tried calling horween earlier because I was wondering if it was full grain or not but wasn’t able to get an answer as yet then I watched your video and heard you saying it was a full grain leather? How do you know for sure if it’s full grain or not?
those look so dark for the cinnamon color
The wax is almost black when new, and only when it wears off does that yellow come out. Check out Jimmy's channel - Trinity Handmade, and also Harker's Leatherworks. I'm not sure I'm going to like the yellowness, but let's see.
@@Bootlosophy If you hate the yellow, you could probably re-wax them to their original color (I'm guessing).
Oops, I posted that before I saw you addressed that!
I.wanted.shoese
Built on the MP last not 55
Not these - MTO from Bakers