it's a shotgun, when was the last time shotguns weren't THE thing in pvp, i'm sure bungie did all this intentionally considering they've already said they wanted a competitor to opening shot
I mean, we all knew Closing Time would be nerfed the day it came out. Under Pressure and Opening Shot give 50% benefit on specials. Closing Time is next, it will be reduced by 50% on shotguns and fusions.
Fallout, do you remember the podcast where Mercules was on it? He asked "What would get people to use something other than Opening Shot?" This was probably Bungie's answer. Closing Time is THE competitor to Opening Shot which has been the king for 7 years. If they do nerf it, then it won't be by much because Bungie (and Merc) want it to be a very direct competitor to Opening Shot (which has gotten boring as being king for 7 years) Also because of Closing Time, it opens up other perks in the 3rd column which is a breath of fresh air compared to Threat/OS
So the answer to opening shot was opening shot but backwards? I suppose it works. Are we gonna get middle management next season that gives us buffs when are magazines are at the halfway mark?
Getting harder and harder to fine decent and up to date D2 PVP related content these days. So thanks for hooking us up when we need you the most Fallout!! o7
I dunno what happened to my previous comment but basically Wow you actually did your research and talked to cool guy cause I was about to recommend something and you totally shut me up. This is why you are one of my favorite d2 UA-camrs
"Sorry about my voice" says he with his sultry, deep voice... Yeah, you should be sorry for doing that to your thirsty fans (BTW, great explanation, as usual)
I was clued into this perk by True Vanguard, honestly. There is a seasonal sidearm (Insurmountable) that has a curated roll with lone wold and closing time. Literally everyone gets this roll and it is DIRTY in pvp. Curious to get it on other guns (see: this video lol). Fun times when perks end up being hotter than we expected :-)
Love that the season with the biggest special weapon power creep we've ever seen is also the season with no crafting and loot drops bugged in like three different ways.
Ever think “perk indoctrination” has been a thing where people knew a perk was good and therefore wouldn’t try new things if they had access to a perk they know is good.
The formula that Bungie and UA-camrs use to cycle in content: 1) Bungie ships new perks and exotics hot and purposely overpowered to generate attention and market DLC/Seasons 2) UA-camrs hype as BROKEN! which helps both them and Bungie monetize content 3) As season gets old UA-camrs switch to how BROKEN! is actually a problem to help soften up the community for upcoming nerfs 4) Bungie nerfs in time to make way for….. 5) Bungie ships new perks and exotics hot and purposely overpowered to generate attention and market DLC/Seasons
What about for snipers? I know no one snipes anymore besides people like me that aren't meta sheep , but it would be nice to know which perks are better on snipers between lone wolf, closing time, opening shot , moving target
Ive been out of D2 for 3 years (since a bit after VoG came out), is there any way to catch back up on what's been happening without watching 3 years of content?
closing time and lone wolf are 10000% getting nerfed, surely. +20 aim assist has such a wildly different impact depending on what weapon you put it on, and on some weapons it's WILDLY broken
@@Narfwak they're not an absolute necessity to have together IMO. CT opens up the 3rd column to other options while still giving decent range and handling, especially with targeting and dexterity mods. Discord \ CT is an awesome roll on Scavenger's Fate for example.
My thoughts exactly. Shotguns , especially in 6's, are the most annoying, no skill , no aim weapons hence why 90% of players equip them cause they're brain dead crutch weapons. Try sniping through flinch that sends your reticle to the moon on mostly tiny maps with 6 enemies running the speed of Light with over shields and wielding no aim necessary shotguns. Now that's a real challenge!
@ go ahead and research my stats if u like. I'm a 100% solo player, an old dad and still snipe 100% of the time and still hold a kda well over 2. Have a 32.0 kda match on my resume with a sniper equipped too. Maybe 🤔 need to practice more and put down the baby weapons like shotguns that require no aim and almost zero thought in 6's
@@herbalT13 no special weapon takes skill in this game. slugs are not hard to use at all whatsoever. i can put on whatever i want and still drop a good kd
Never said they were op or too strong, though they certainly are the most favored/the outlier in the ammo economy. I just don't like versing them as a GL user. I've been a double GL user since the Mountaintop quest days, and honestly it was fine then, as special was plentiful and (non FL) GL's could kill without spike. Now you really can't do that, and have to do a lot more with a lot less, especially with the dumb health changes. Everyone and their mother using pulses right now also doesn't help, but it's still manageable. However things have started to turn around now that I've swapped from a spike AL Militia's/FL to Alethonym/Proximity Orewing's Maul.
Idk if you’re gonna read this but it’s so delightful finally being able to watch your videos without little drizzles of gayness every 6 minutes u open your mouth I come for destiny info and the rest of that shit can be saved for your twitch chat, thank you I’ll start watching ur videos again
Hot take. The problem in crucible is not special ammo or ability spam its the pure lethality of every gun in the game. Every gun as so much range and low ttks that its pleaging the crucible. Now im not saying go back to year one but maybe the sandbox as a whole needs to be tuned. Unlike last time where they increased player health and the increased gun damage as the same time maybe we need to look at fire rates of weapons
Sorry for my voice, Flu hits hard. Anyway, be sure to also check out CoolGuys vid today! ua-cam.com/video/B6WcwQ8fOW0/v-deo.html
Woah woah woah, fallout, brother, chill with using the word “Broken” on your titles. Can’t have Bungie nerfing this thing yet lol
Seriously!!! Delete this vid! Something finally competes with threat and opening, oh no!
then we’ll just go back to threat opening
it's a shotgun, when was the last time shotguns weren't THE thing in pvp, i'm sure bungie did all this intentionally considering they've already said they wanted a competitor to opening shot
Seriously CoolGuy then Fallout? 🤫🤫🤫🤫There’s a tipping point you’re forcing when all of you do this broken perk content
Yes delete this video immediately thanks
Closing Time: know who I want to take me home
Now I want whiskey
You don't have to go home but you can't stay here
Yes
Take me home
I mean, we all knew Closing Time would be nerfed the day it came out. Under Pressure and Opening Shot give 50% benefit on specials. Closing Time is next, it will be reduced by 50% on shotguns and fusions.
“Closing time f***s.” Could have just ended the video there on the perfect closing line.
I actually had just finished watching CoolGuy’s vid when this one came up in my feed lol
Funny how I just came over from CoolGuy's video and saw this, too!
Fallout, do you remember the podcast where Mercules was on it? He asked "What would get people to use something other than Opening Shot?" This was probably Bungie's answer. Closing Time is THE competitor to Opening Shot which has been the king for 7 years.
If they do nerf it, then it won't be by much because Bungie (and Merc) want it to be a very direct competitor to Opening Shot (which has gotten boring as being king for 7 years)
Also because of Closing Time, it opens up other perks in the 3rd column which is a breath of fresh air compared to Threat/OS
So the answer to opening shot was opening shot but backwards? I suppose it works.
Are we gonna get middle management next season that gives us buffs when are magazines are at the halfway mark?
Good video, you managed to put out a definitive shotgun guide YET again 💪
Slideways/Closing Time i never doubted you for a second
Getting harder and harder to fine decent and up to date D2 PVP related content these days.
So thanks for hooking us up when we need you the most Fallout!! o7
Fallout, I sold my soul for a god roll Matador. IDC what’s better I ain’t taking it off 😭
Closing timee 🎶 🎵
I dunno what happened to my previous comment but basically
Wow you actually did your research and talked to cool guy cause I was about to recommend something and you totally shut me up. This is why you are one of my favorite d2 UA-camrs
One of my favorite shotguns is without remorse with enhanced hip fire and fragile focus. So slept on!
THE SHOTGUN TESTING KING CONTINUES HIS GLORIOUS REIGN. LONG LIVE FALLOUT PLAYS.
What makes me favor TD is being able to use the info it gives me on people through walls
Just use wallhacks like everyone else bro its 2k24 ohmugahd.
"Sorry about my voice" says he with his sultry, deep voice... Yeah, you should be sorry for doing that to your thirsty fans (BTW, great explanation, as usual)
>_>
Awesome video thank you
BABE WAKE UP NEW FALLOUT SHOTTY VID JUST DROPPED
We got another shotgun video from fallout before GTA6
Bet we'll get this joke before gta6 too. Oh hey! There it is!
I was clued into this perk by True Vanguard, honestly.
There is a seasonal sidearm (Insurmountable) that has a curated roll with lone wold and closing time.
Literally everyone gets this roll and it is DIRTY in pvp.
Curious to get it on other guns (see: this video lol).
Fun times when perks end up being hotter than we expected :-)
Love that the season with the biggest special weapon power creep we've ever seen is also the season with no crafting and loot drops bugged in like three different ways.
TBF to one of those "bugs," it was around since Forsaken. Beyond Light at the earliest
Did you and Coolguy coordinate releasing practically the same video in the same hour, on the same day?
Opening shot seems to be more consistent at longer ranges than closing time on snipers.
Closing time is legit power creep the perk in every sense of the word
Discord/closing time - Cool guys god roll Scavengers Fate.
Crazy you brought up cool guys video. Just seen it right before this one 😂
Lone Wolf has Opening shot stats. read what Lone Wolf and Opening Shots says on description.
Ever think “perk indoctrination” has been a thing where people knew a perk was good and therefore wouldn’t try new things if they had access to a perk they know is good.
Closing time is all those perks combined
Got a veleda sniper with arrowhead, handling mw, lone wolf and closing time
The formula that Bungie and UA-camrs use to cycle in content:
1) Bungie ships new perks and exotics hot and purposely overpowered to generate attention and market DLC/Seasons
2) UA-camrs hype as BROKEN! which helps both them and Bungie monetize content
3) As season gets old UA-camrs switch to how BROKEN! is actually a problem to help soften up the community for upcoming nerfs
4) Bungie nerfs in time to make way for…..
5) Bungie ships new perks and exotics hot and purposely overpowered to generate attention and market DLC/Seasons
Did that song pop in your head when you saw the title? The one by Semisonic?
Get well soon🙏🏻🙏🏻
Gotta feed the algorithm. Nice vid
What about for snipers? I know no one snipes anymore besides people like me that aren't meta sheep , but it would be nice to know which perks are better on snipers between lone wolf, closing time, opening shot , moving target
My OG Mindbenders with quickdraw and snapshot enters the chat
and immediately leaves upon seeing how outclassed it is
and whifffffffffff everywhere lol...most inconsistent meta shotty D2 has ever had .... nice to swap to but ...hardly one shots
Coughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bomb
My threat detector, closing time prophet of doom I've been bullying people in crucible with
Didn’t you or someone in the Firing Range podcast recommend something similar to closing time? Faint memory, but I remember something😂
Ive been out of D2 for 3 years (since a bit after VoG came out), is there any way to catch back up on what's been happening without watching 3 years of content?
Your shotgun testing has really evolved during the years, do you miss random pellet spread? 😆
i was wondering what you'd have to say about this after watching cool guy's video and lo and behold
But what if you have lone wolf and closing time on a deadlock?
Voice sounded fine btw
they should make world drops craftable
Shotgun boy returns
They need to adjust closing time in fusions.
Fallout is never gonna beat the shotgun guy allegations
@FalloutPlays
PLEASE credit Tune in with Chewie & Gamechops for their logo Destiny covers. It slaps and they deserve the recognition.
You don’t have to go home but you can’t stay here
why does this VO reminds me on monotone Jez?
What bout slickdraw tho
Watch TWID come out with a nerf this week and he has another pinned comment added to the vid 😂
sooo.. dont delete my lone wolf, closing time with the range mw. got it
See Wallah's video a week or two ago.
So in short ..closing time bout to catch a nerf .... then threat closing will be the better option...so back to prophet ...wrd
Bro is late to the party
Content creators on a mission to get this perk nerfed
It's not broken. It's fine. Chill out shotgun guy
closing time and lone wolf are 10000% getting nerfed, surely. +20 aim assist has such a wildly different impact depending on what weapon you put it on, and on some weapons it's WILDLY broken
Nah, getting bored of having to use opening shot w\ elecap, threat, QD, or SD on pvp specials.
@@Mr_Ruhl I mean, the new reality is you have to use LW + CT. a nerf to these puts them on more equal footing
@@Narfwak they're not an absolute necessity to have together IMO. CT opens up the 3rd column to other options while still giving decent range and handling, especially with targeting and dexterity mods. Discord \ CT is an awesome roll on Scavenger's Fate for example.
This is useless to me as I despise and do not respect anyone using a shotgun in PvP. Except for Slug shotgun users, I guess I respect you guys.
My thoughts exactly. Shotguns , especially in 6's, are the most annoying, no skill , no aim weapons hence why 90% of players equip them cause they're brain dead crutch weapons. Try sniping through flinch that sends your reticle to the moon on mostly tiny maps with 6 enemies running the speed of
Light with over shields and wielding no aim necessary shotguns. Now that's a real challenge!
you both gotta be like .9 overall players 😂
@ go ahead and research my stats if u like. I'm a 100% solo player, an old dad and still snipe 100% of the time and still hold a kda well over 2. Have a 32.0 kda match on my resume with a sniper equipped too. Maybe 🤔 need to practice more and put down the baby weapons like shotguns that require no aim and almost zero thought in 6's
@@herbalT13 no special weapon takes skill in this game. slugs are not hard to use at all whatsoever. i can put on whatever i want and still drop a good kd
Never said they were op or too strong, though they certainly are the most favored/the outlier in the ammo economy. I just don't like versing them as a GL user.
I've been a double GL user since the Mountaintop quest days, and honestly it was fine then, as special was plentiful and (non FL) GL's could kill without spike.
Now you really can't do that, and have to do a lot more with a lot less, especially with the dumb health changes. Everyone and their mother using pulses right now also doesn't help, but it's still manageable.
However things have started to turn around now that I've swapped from a spike AL Militia's/FL to Alethonym/Proximity Orewing's Maul.
But what about chill clip
You and coolguy made the exact same video and released them 30 minutes apart 🤔
I finally get a great roll and content creators try and get it shut down again.
Nah Slickdraw, Closing time is the shotgun godroll. Change my mind
All that to be randomly killed by a roaming super.
This game does not deserve all this effort.
I never was a fan of Threat Detector, or perks that activate based on enemy proximity to begin with. So I am eating good
Too much time not focusing on slickdraw just maxing handling and making everything handling wise irrelevant.
Pls no more shotgun testing... I remember Chaerpone's "p2w ornament" incident
It will get nerf by tomorrow. Content creators wont stop talking about it 😂
2 shotgun videos, 1 with ASMR and 1 with The coolest guy?
Everyone wins here folks.
More weapons to not use because pvp is hot trash. I already deleted most of my pvp weapons.
hype
Idk if you’re gonna read this but it’s so delightful finally being able to watch your videos without little drizzles of gayness every 6 minutes u open your mouth I come for destiny info and the rest of that shit can be saved for your twitch chat, thank you I’ll start watching ur videos again
Hot take. The problem in crucible is not special ammo or ability spam its the pure lethality of every gun in the game. Every gun as so much range and low ttks that its pleaging the crucible. Now im not saying go back to year one but maybe the sandbox as a whole needs to be tuned. Unlike last time where they increased player health and the increased gun damage as the same time maybe we need to look at fire rates of weapons
Have a god roll compass rose with enhanced opening shot and threat detector and my scavengers craps on it with enhanced closing time and lone wolf!!!!