Just viewed your Ultimate BMPro Guide. We have owned our 2024 Entegra Esteem 29V for 7 days and had no idea on how to use this command center. You methodically went through how to use the BMPro and I feel like I understand its operation now. You tips were very insightful too. Especially getting rid of the apps that could potentially create problems down the road. I am looking forward to watching the other information you have posted on this topic. Again, great job & thank you!
I’ve owned my 2022 Jayco Eagle for almost a month. This video was extremely helpful…especially after I struggled with the BMPRO app simply disappearing on the android tablet in the unit itself! Frustration was high trying to understand what I was dealing with. I use all IOS (Apple) products. It was really just a matter of connecting to strong wifi signal and downloading the BMPRO app again through the RV tablet!! It would have been so so SO much easier IF I had this “tutorial” OUTSTANDING!!! Thank you!
Thank you! Glad to hear it. If you haven't already I recommend disabling some of the unused apps in the Android > Settings > Apps as having those run in the bkg seems to cause issues uncessarily (e.g. UA-cam, Photos, etc. - the ones we don't use on it).
So true. These little tablets are a joke. Hopefully there is an upgrade that is available to purchase. To say this tablet is cumbersome is an understatement.
Wow, this was very good and informative we just bought a 2023 North Point 310RLTS and this is what it has, whenever I buy something like this I like to be educated on what I'm doing. This shows me ways that I didn't know exist but now I do, I was trying to set up my propane monitor but didn't know too much about it but now I know, this was very in deep and I appreciated this a lot.
Great vid, recently purchased a Jayco Northpoint & learned far more from you than anybody in the sales dept. & original orientation. Even the service tech conducting warranty work on the coach had no experience or knowledge of this system! (Canadian)
I think you so much for explaining the Jayco command center. Really appreciate it because when I first bought my fifth wheel I did not understand it at all.
My experience with the app has been different. It freezes and looses connection a considerable amount of time. Having all of your systems run by an app and no backup or stability causes problems when living your rig full time.
I’m actually talking about the main control system. Just like you showed here. It is android based. That app misbehaves and becomes unresponsive. I’ve actually had the app completely loose Bluetooth and keep asking to be paired. To the point I had to clear it clear it’s data and cache and force stop to get it working again
@@mustangkline My mistake. Wow, that's frustrating for sure. I'm not full time, but use it quite a bit still. Does it help at all to disable the unused Android apps such as UA-cam, Music, etc.?
@@AdventureRocks I think that does help. That was one of the things I had to stop early on. However I made the mistake of stopping chrome as well. Google changed how they do things and a few months back they had a major update that caused apps to fail. Ours was one of them. I re-enabled the app and it helped for a little while. Now we are dealing with constant loss of connectivity to the point I’m looking at possibly ripping the whole system out and replacing it with a dedicated multiplexing system with dedicated software running it.
Jeff, congrats on getting the North point! I'm sure you'll love it! The only real difference of the NorthPoint and Pinnacle is the width of the rigs. The Pinnacle is 8' wide (closed) where the NorthPoint is 7'4" (closed).... Depending on what year your getting, you should have the exact same features as our rigs. Bonus info*..... If you go to the "settings" on the tablet, you will see "general settings".... Tap it 5 times and it will take you to the programming screen. Here you can change the layout of the screen, to include showing features that weren't installed at the factory. (Ie. Tank heaters, solar controller, hear pumps on various AC units). To set it up correctly, look on the outside of the rig by your door for the build #. (This will be under your floor plan number) Then go to the tablet and enter that in, it will then allow you to select what features you would like to see on the screen. I'm hoping to make a video of this in the future. Cheers
@@AdventureRocks totally my pleasure! I've been in contact with BMPro and GoPower to find out the availability of getting my solar package connected to the Jaycommand node system. When I hear back from them I'll update you. When you actually go through the system and show the solar controller on the Jaycommand display, you'll see the information has the potential of showing, is just like the Victron...
We haven't had had a chance to play with our BMPro/JayCommand system yet as we have only had our 5er for a month or so. We have 5 trips booked this year though. The wife & I are both Android tech nerds and we appreciate this review and all of the suggestions. I hadn't even thought about disabling the apps that aren't needed for the RV. 👍 Which Victron battery monitor system would suggest. Thanks for all the work that went into this!
Thank you! Glad to help. Once you get a chance to try it out more you'll have to report back with any other tips or findings on yours. Always enjoy learning off others. I like the Victron BMV-712 battery monitor (amzn.to/36GmxKC). I've used it on 3 different rigs now and really like it. Certainly could go cheaper, but it's just a nice interface overall. In my current Jayco I just put the display/remote in the basement storage next to vacuum since I'm usually connecting via Bluetooth on phone. They also make a bluetooth only version for a bit less, but still kinda nice having the analog display/remote.
What is the maximum size and number of propane tanks this system will support? Thanks for all the detailed videos on this 5th wheel and looking forward to more.
Glad to help. It'll support up to 40lb tanks, but also 20 and 30 lb tanks too. And in total it'll support up to 20 Bluetooth sensors connected, which as I understand it, includes temp sensors, tmps, propane, etc.
Excellent vid, great tips, especially with disabling unnecessary android apps. Once I get the unit back up, I will disable all apps that I don't need/want. My BMPro went blank, into a hard sleep, and I have yet to reset it. Tried resetting using the OF-ext but that didn't work. Tried resetting with paperclip on pin under the front panel and that started a reboot sequence on the unit but it went back to sleep after it rebooted and blank screen again within about 30 seconds and I couldn't do anything more. Today, I will try a hard reboot by removing the BMPro panel and removing the plug on the board and replugging. If that doesn't work, I am unfortunately out of options and will have to contact the dealer, ugh. Fortunately, I did discover that my RVMaster controller app on my phone still works all the systems so I am not totally DITW. There aren't many videos showing how to troubleshoot the BMPro. Thanks for your very informative video. Well done!
Thank you, kindly. I appreciate that. I have not made a winterizing video yet, mainly I guess because I do not winterize my unit. We use it year round mostly and it doesn't get quite as cold here in Georgia so I just keep it heated on the few occasions where it gets into 20s. Maybe one day though...!?
I have a Jayco Eagle 355. We are Canadian so temps are set to Celsius. One feature that I would change is the lower limit of the temperature. We like it cool at night and prefer to use electric heat before gas kicks in. The system controls only go down to 16'C. I'd prefer to set it much lower. Also, you can't set the temperature level without having the system in heat or cool mode. This can start the furnace or AC unnecessarily. I have done some controls programming in my past career so might be a bit critical. Otherwise, this system seems to work well. It would be good to have it locked into the BMPro app with special permission to unlock so that unauthorized users, ie: teenagers, could not mess with things.
Awesome video. We did get a fast walkthrough that touched high level review but your video does an great job diving in deeper. We just bought an Entegra Esteem 29V and only issue we are having is unable to setup Cloud Connection. I keep getting an error message and telling me to reset an SDK...? Not sure what to do there.
@@timwestfield I've heard BMPro is having an outage on their cloud server as of the last week or so...new issue. It's possible BMPro hasn't resolved it yet. Basically they are providing free DNS forwarding to follow your IP. So maybe try again in a week and see if it persists?
@@AdventureRocks Thanks. I did email their support but you're much faster at replying, lol. Also, do you have a video on the Victron Battery Monitor System? That sounds interesting.
@@timwestfield No prob! I did a vid on the Victron nearly 4 years ago so it's a bit dated when I was starting out here on YT, but it is out there still :) ua-cam.com/video/8j8Wd9tPWtA/v-deo.html
I have one of the Jayco Feather Micro TT’s (‘22) that I should receive in a few weeks. Can you with your phone change the temperature setting on your AC when not inside the RV? How far away? Does your phone and your RV have to be under the same wifi network to communicate. Or under the cloud, can your phone on wifi communicate with your RV at a different location with a different wifi network? Also is the BMPro system compatible with an IPhone?
Mine works about up to 20-30' outside the coach via bluetooth. Otherwise if you've got WiFi on your coach or nearby and BMPro is connected to cloud via WiFi, then you can change via a phone pretty much anywhere in the world where you've got internet. BMPro is bluetooth only for direct connection, so when you're out of bluetooth range, then you'll need an internet connection on both phone and BMPro system (whether wifi or cellular)...doesn't matter as long as they are all connected to internet. So you can change temp, water pump, water heater, lights...pretty much everything except for motors like slides, awnings...those only work via bluetooth for safety reasons. BMPro has apps for both iPhone and Android.
I appreciate your tutorial on the BMPRO. I noticed when you were discussing the propane monitoring system mounted at the bottom of the tanks, I noticed you had three tanks you were monitoring. According to the MFG I wanted all three tanks monitored like you have since I have a generator too. They advised only two tanks can be monitored. Any advice you can give me or correction on my mis information on these sensors.
Unless they changed something I'd guess inadvertent misinformation. I think the limitation is more how many total Bluetooth sensors you have between temp, propane, etc. as the node only supports so many. I've got 3x temp and 3x propane and pretty sure I could add more. Maybe they just haven't tried it? You'll have to report back if you find out otherwise. Hope this helps!
I like the BM Pro system EXCEPT on the buttons on the bottom that control the lights and the slides and awnings. I would like to be able to change the buttons that control the lights to only one or 2 lights rather than pushing button 1 and have All lights come on. I would rather only 1 or 2 lights come on.
Agreed. That would be a nice software upgrade if you could customize the buttons. Great idea, I like it! I would imagine the BMPro team reads through these comments periodically, so maybe they'll factor that into a future update.
Yes, my 2022 Northpoint has the new integrated JayVoice control to work lights & HVAC. They also put the solar controler screen in it. Bummer, physical buttons went away.
Wow, that is great news on the solar controller! Sorry to hear about the buttons. I'm not 100% certain if that is due to parts shortage or permanent change. I sure hope it is just temporary as those buttons are in my opinion a VERY nice feature and separate it from some of the other systems. Thank you for sharing the update!
Agreed. I've noticed in winter it absorbs the wall temperature (internal surface heat) and runs 5-10 warmer than it should. Guess it's a dilemma where to get best readings year-round.
I have the BM PRO system and don’t have the tire sensors to measure tire pressure and temperature. I thought my ‘22 Pinnacle would have them installed but they are not. Can I purchase the TPS tire system from BM PRO. Any estimate on the cost?
Sometimes they're in the Jayco manual bag as I think the dealer is supposed to set them up. Unless they were left out by mistake. You can buy extra though, about $220 for 4x: teambmpro.com/products/tyre-pressure-monitoring-smartpressure/
Sure, glad to help. I can do that. I've actually had same question a few times now, so I'll think about how to organize that info and put out a video on it soon. Thank you for feedback.
As long as you keep the tablet and battery charged you are good. I am on my second tablet, barely under warranty, as the battery died from lack of AC power to keep it charged. It is s cheap $30 tablet but BMPRO wants over $600 for a replacement if out of warranty. Lots of posts on this at Jayco owners RV forum
Great advice! Thank you for sharing. I'm actually publishing a video this Sunday, 7/30, as a 2-year follow-up with problems and troubleshooting on the BMPro system. The follow-up video will kick-off a mini series on the BMPro system exploring self-service options for us owners at the 2+ year point moving forward including replacing with aftermarket, replacing just the battery in OEM tablet, and adding a 2nd higher-end tablet, all with pros and cons mixed in. Stay tuned!
My is 2 years old and it's out of control. It's turning on and off. It won't let me control it. I dislike that I can't manually control the heating system or the water heater. Luckily my phone is letting me control things still. I live in my jayco eagle travel trailer full time. I called the jayco dealership. I will probably have to buy another commander panel.
Sorry to hear about the difficulties. It can be frustrating for sure when you need to use it and it's not working right. You might want to try this video outlining the battery replacement as that could be a potential culprit in your case: ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.html
Do you know to add options to the display? We just bought a 2022 Northpoint with generator prep. I have the generator installed and running but I need to add the generator options to the BMPro Energy page.
Yes, go to the "settings" sprocket within BMPro app on the coach's display. Then quickly tap the "general settings" heading at the top of the screen to enter programming mode. You'll see a set of menus to select your brand, model, and build sequence via VIN (some have it on a sticker by outside door with floorplan). Hope this helps!
Just bought a 2024 Riverstone fifth wheel. They installed the BMPro new for 2024. I had a Onan 5500 generator installed and the tech couldn't figure out how to get the generator to display on the BMPro. I'm thinking if I can find where that brain unit for the BMPro is located maybe you connect to that. Appreciate any feedback you might have.
Nice choice on the Riverstone! Beautiful unit. My first thought is the gen is connected to the node (brain), but maybe your unit didn't get programmed and so that's why the buttons aren't showing up like mine in video. So I recommend trying the "programming" mode to add the gen to your unit in software. To do this you'll got to settings (sprocket icon) within the BMPro App and tap the "General Settings" gray bar 5 times in a row. That'll take you to configuration mode to program. Basically you select your model and add the features/options on your unit. Here's a PDF from BMPro with more info: bmpro.zendesk.com/attachments/token/X1wJ1ljhRvkLqp2dCQO8pnUGg/?name=034559+-+JAYCOMMAND+Help+Guide+-+Configuring+your+RV+v1.3.pdf
Otherwise if the configuration/programming doesn't work, I suppose it's possible the gen didn't get connected to the node. But, I think you'd at least see the buttons in the app if that was the case. Either way if you can find an locate the node/brain where all the wires converge, you could check to make sure it is physically connected. Mine is pictured at about 01:57 in the video. Usually it's in the basement storage...needs a decent amount of room for all the wires and such. Last, another video to keep handy for future is the one below for troubleshooting connectivity issues: ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.html
If you're using the built-in tablet in the coach (the Android-based one), you'll use the small "back" icon along bottom of screen (kinda like a triangle pointing left). If you're using another phone or device, depending on the version of OS, you may have a similar back icon, or you can swipe backwards from left (other versions it is swiping to the right). Hope this helps!
Can you download the app on a I pad I can not understand how these work but thanks .I have 2 panicles and need to know how to get separate apps for both.
I think so. The app may not scale the same on a larger screen, but shouldn't be too much different. Might be easiest to keep 2x separate devices for 2x separate units. I am not sure if BMPro has provisioned multiple units within the app?
Hello So i am interested into upgrading my analog command center into touchscreen. Mostly because i want to have the remote control of the climate. Do you know if its possible and if it is where can i buy it
Great question. That I am not sure. But, are you able to pair via bluetooth with your system? If so, I would imagine the node is designed such that it can be interchangeable on the controllers. The controller in video is merely paired via bluetooth to the node.
I cant get my phone to connect to the node, also I reset to factory settings and the controller wont connect to the node so I'm stuck in bad situations right now. any help would be great. thanks
Sorry to hear about the trouble. These can be tricky sometimes. Below video has some steps that you may have tried already, but just in case: ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.html You can also clear node of all bluetooth pairings in case it has maxed out: teambmpro.com/wp-content/uploads/035285-RVMaster-Help-Guide-pairing-node-controller.pdf If there are any other key symptoms you're noticing let me know and maybe I can come up with some other ideas.
We purchased Pinnacle 2022. No buttons on the bottom of the BMPro. It was advertised that it had it. Didn’t catch it when purchased the unit. They informed us that they didn’t have the chips to make it work. Now they won’t add the touch pad. Your thoughts?
Sorry to hear about that. In my opinion those hard buttons below screen are one of the big selling points of the BMPro system. I have seen a lot of the 2022s without them, but my hope has been they'll catch-up on the supply and start adding them back in. It would seem like a possibility at least, even if they had to charge a nominal fee to customers. Did you reach out to CustomerCare@jayco.com already?
Saw your other comment and replied there. Could also be battery inside tablet, but here's one I did showing what symptoms led to mine needing replacement: ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.html
We just signed the papers on a 2022 321 RSTS. The command module does NOT have any of the manual buttons/switches or LCD screen along the bottom. All blank. Dealer said this was to circumvent "shortages or whatever". I'm curious if you or others have seen this, and more curious if it can be replaced with a "normal" version in the future. Quite disappointed that Jayco sent it out this way.
Oh wow, I can imagine the disappointment. 100% agree. I think you're the first one to mention that shortage. Surely there has to be a way to swap it out after they replenish the supply and catch up. In my opinion that's one of the main features that sets the BMPro system apart from others. It's not a deal breaker in that you'll still be able to access everything, but those hardwired buttons are nice especially if the tablet portion would ever fail. I wonder if you reached out to BMPro support to inquire? They may just say you need to contact Jayco, but I've had much better responses from BMPro on questions submitted through their website compared to Jayco, so worth a shot? Sorry to hear about that.
My new pinnacle was just delivered, and my one scary question is on the motor screen there is a retract all. Can I dump my 5th wheel on the ground if that is pushed with no truck under the pin? Is there a way to disable that button?
Did yours come with the Lippert jacks or Equalizer? On the Equalizer system "retract all" just means retract all the rear 4x jacks and leaving front 2x alone. But last time I had the Lippert system, "retract all" literally would retract all 6x jacks like you mentioned...only for use once hitched up. I don't know if it's still the same today as that was several years ago. Maybe ask the folks in Pinnacle group on Facebook to confirm. Surely there's a way to quickly stop it if you press by accident?
@@AdventureRocks Called my salesman, he said it will retract all. I’m not going to try it until I hook up again. There should be a way to disable that button or at least 2 step confirmation before it activates. I was looking in the utility bay to hook up a Hughs Autoformer. I see no main power connection??? It’s a 32RLTS and my cord reel is in the rear corner.
@@TheDesertdawg1I hear you, definitely more of an issue with the Lippert system compared to the Equalizer given how they function. I had the Equalizer version so did not occur to me, but you raise a good point with the Lippert version the way it works. If you wanted, you could disconnect the wires connecting the Lippert keypad to the BMPro node...you should see 2-4 wires (potentially a small harness) attaching to the BMPro Node, likely on the right side labeled on node. That would completely disable the BMPro system from communicating with the Lippert jacks, so then you'd only be able to control the jacks via the Lippert keypad outside...downside, but it would prevent accidental touch. For Autoformer qeustion...On your 32RLTS, did you get the gen prep option? If so, you can hook-up the Autoformer right by the transfer switch by intercepting, which I think should be behind your basement storage mechanical area like mine? If no gen prep/transfer switch, then you may have to gain access to the 50A power by the actual converter panel itself...may be tricky getting access, but should be a way to make it work. Hope this helps.
Basically the hard buttons along bottom of wall screen are separate from the tablet, so that is the hardwired system essentially. It can only control the slides, awning, lights, and water pump, but for me that seems sufficient for the critical systems. Then the leveling system has a dedicated, separate panel in wet bay. And, as I understand it, even if the tablet went caput, you can still Bluetooth via phone app as that goes straight to node. So far it's been very reliable for me personally (about 6 months). I think key is disabling Android apps that aren't necessary to make it stable. I'll have to report back after 1 year, 2 etc. I'll definitely share any updates along journey or issues I encounter long term.
2022 the Node has no button’s across the Botton of the Node. Luckily the Mobile app saves the day, while you must figure out an error in the system. Like freezing up on a screen. Manuals aren’t on line for this Lite version yet.
You are correct...think it happened late 21 to present. Sad to see that...those buttons really are a HUGE selling point in my opinion. Still a nice system without, but I gotta say those buttons give it an edge over other systems in my opinion. Hopefully they'll be back in stock soon so they can outfit units with them in the future.
I need to find the busbar/fusebox. I hope I have unused circuits. My van has a propane sensor that reports to the BMPro. Inexplicably, the on/off switch for the propane is outside. It should be available at the tablet and at the phone app.
Yes, they have an app for both Android and iOS. I have not used the iOS app, but I have not heard complaints that it's drastically different in connectivity compared to the Android version, so I have no reason to believe the experience isn't just as good. Hope everything goes smoothly with your new purchase!
Any feedback on why my JAYCOMMAND shows a generator fault and does not track hours? The generator runs well and I’m not able to get any fault codes from the generator itself. Is there a way to reset the unit to clear the fault? Any idea how to get hours to be tracked and shown in the unit itself? Really appreciate the rest of your content regarding the unit itself. Would be great if you could do a video on the Equalizer leveling system, finding level/setting null, and your process for unhitching on an unlevel site.
Do you think it could be a loose wire perhaps on gen inputs? You could check on the node in basement to see if any wires are loose or missing on the gen inputs. And, then check if those same wires are secure on the generator itself. I haven't had issues with the gen hours, but I haven't gotten any specific fault codes on mine. Only times I've seen fault are 2x when I've accidentally run it out of fuel. But, when I restart gen after replenishing propane the fault goes away on its own. I haven't ever seen a fault code, but assumed it wasn't capable of showing them. Almost would be nice to have the standard analog onan control panel that normally comes with it in units without BMPro, perhaps mounted in basement storage where you could get all that if needed. Almost like the redudant equalizer panel in wetbay. I wonder if it's possible to add that analog Onan control/display? I'll have to look into that as that'd be kinda nice actually. On the leveling I had a bit of a learning curve as the Equalizer works a good bit different compared to Lippert that I was accustomed too. I discovered the auto level button only works under specific circumstances if the rear jacks are retracted and the rear jack lights are off. So whereas with Lippert you could go back and press "auto level" a day after setting up camp and it'd re-level in case you sank a bit, with Equalizer you have to fully retract first and then press auto level again. And, I've had to redo the null setting a few times as well. Since I got all that figured out it has worked great now. Maybe I can put a video on that in future as it was kinda confusing figuring out.
@@AdventureRocks thanks again for your comments and thorough feedback. I will check the wires and see if by chance that may be causing the fault and 0.0 hours listed. Agree, the equalizer is a bit different and not much content available on them yet. Do you find it necessary to level the unit using wood under the tires when pulling in first or do you find that the system is able to self-level once unhitched? Prior 5th wheel was electric leveling so a bit different and so I’m still figuring this out as well. Are the front landing jacks supposed to self level if the unit is parked in an uneven spot when unhitching or do you suggest blocks under the jacks/tires?
@@barrettyoung9613 I also had the Lippert electric leveling before so had gotten used to it. On the Equalizer I have not had to use wood blocks on tires yet. I think there was only one campsite I recall where it was pretty sloped and the Equalizer still handled it just fine witht he auto level. If I ever do get a site where jacks are out of stroke I'd personally just put a 1-2" block/pad under the jack(s) out of stroke and let it continue. Anymore than that and I guess probably better to block under the tires at that point. I've actually used it to very carefully fully lift the tires off ground in my flat storage area to remove tires and work on running gear. It lifts it pretty high if needed. I basically do mostly the same as the Lippert electric leveling on the unhitching side as far as deploying front jacks manually first, raising nose of fifth wheel to unhitch, pulling truck out fully. And then I just press the auto level button and wait for it to do its thing. Initially when I first got my rig I think the null setting was off, and then other times I had failed to push the "retract all" on the opposite/reverse while hitching up. On the Lippert "retract all" would literally retract all the jacks including front, whereas on the Equalizer it just retracts the 4x rear. So that threw me off initially. But, I think you have to press the "retract all" when hitching up in order for the "auto level" to work the next time unhitching if that makes sense. A tech at Equalizer told me the "auto level" only works if the rear jack lights are off (not red) on panel. Another tip if you ever get out of sequence and the Equalizer panel won't respond to input and just long beeps...I just pull the fuse at the hydraulic pump to reset it (or you could pull harness from back of control, but harder to reach). The other thing I've noticed is the Equalizer brain is entirely part of the control panel, whereas on the Lippert it had other sensors throughout. So, I've noticed that the Equalizer gets it close to level, but perhaps not as precise as Lippert due to the Equalizer's level sensor being in the control panel itself? Anyway once I got all that figured out it has worked great. Definitely different compared to the Lippert version.
@@AdventureRocks will definitely try this and play some more with it here at home on the pad. Again, thanks for the input! I see you’re in GA so we’re just next door in SC
Very informative video. Unfortunately we hate the BMPRO Jaycommand. We just had a new one put in along with a new node. Original died. We've got a 2022 Eagle 317RLOK. We made the mistake of leaving the dealership after installation without pairing our phones to it. Got home, extended the slides and attempted to pair our phones. Neither Android phone paired and the BMPRO is stuck in pairing mode. We can't even get it back to the control screen to operate anything. We will be calling the dealer tomorrow. What a bunch of junk!
Sorry to hear about all your troubles. Out of curiosity does your unit lack the dedicated buttons under screen? In other words, do you have the two "light" switches in lieu of the dedicated buttons?
Great video! Thank you purchasing a north point next week was wondering about the propane and tire pressure sensors did it come with the system or purchased separately
Does not cover what to do with BMpro tablet is in storage forv6 months with no power for the coach. How do you stop the battery from being totally discharged
Yes, see this 2-year follow-up showing how to power down tablet using the small pinhole: ua-cam.com/video/AWtvF7zCHSw/v-deo.htmlsi=wHLVXTkZlO9OGbJV&t=391 Select the "power off" option instead of restart, and that'll keep tablet off. You may also need to install a true battery disconnect that cuts off EVERYTHING...as the OEM disconnect switch still leaves some things on. See this video for more details: ua-cam.com/video/2wgWWzzYRzk/v-deo.htmlsi=9Y8an7geZVYdfeoZ&t=144 Basically if you don't kill all the power to coach, the BMPRO system may power back on randomly even while in storage. Another way to keep power from getting to BMPRO tablet is to disconnect the 4-pin connector behind BMPRO tablet bezel, but that may be a little more obtrusive having snap and un-snap panel each time. Here's video with more details: ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.htmlsi=LBKh8Ko2p08-4LQM&t=1261
Yes, if previous owner set a pattern you'll need to perform what is called an "android hard reset with buttons" - You'll need to remove tablet from bezel (see 9:10 timecode @ ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.htmlsi=RVzB0H5jqTSfiVrl&t=550 ) and then follow these steps: Press and hold the power and volume down buttons until a load screen appears. Use the volume buttons to go down the list and select “Recovery mode.” Press the power button. After the phone restarts, use the volume buttons again to select “Wipe data/factory reset.
The owner's manual suggests that you need to contact Jayco for a replacement in that case :0 ...but, I've got an idea for you to try if you're up for it... (in full disclosure I've never done this on my tablet, so try at your own risk...however I've done it on other Android tablets). Basically any Android device can be hard reset via hardware buttons using following method below, which erases any passcodes: 1) You'll need to remove the tablet from the bezel (see ua-cam.com/video/AWtvF7zCHSw/v-deo.html) 2) Carefully remove the bottom circuit board that blocks the tablet from sliding out of the bezel (a few screws...be careful with fragile ribbon cable that connects to circuit board) 3) Next power down the tablet completely (hold power button and shutdown) 4) Once tablet is off completely hold volume down and power button at same time 5) Keep holding the buttons until you see the Android recovery menu 6) Use the volume buttons to navigate to the option "factory reset" 7) Press the power button to confirm your selection. Here's a more detailed guide: www.lifewire.com/use-android-recovery-mode-7109841 Basically the above steps will completely erase your tablet, and it should then re-install the original factory BMPro software just like it came fresh from the factory. You'll have to report back and let us know what you find out.
I've been dealing with loss communication on this system. Had to update firmware finally got it to idle. But today back to loss communication can't use the motors for slides or leveling. Unfortunately jayco is a bit puzzled of this aswell. Is there another step I need to be doing. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
Sorry to hear about the troubles. Will it let you pair with your smartphone instead? And do you have the version with the dedicated buttons below screen or without?
Yes, no issues there. Once you pair your phone it'll automatically connect via bluetooth and then you can view TMPS on your phone via app while in truck. I have had no issues with bluetooth range. I like that the BMPro TMPS is just those screw on stem caps, as then you can also run redudant TMPS inside the tires with OEM truck sensors to EVIC since most are supporting them now. I installed the ones that came with my RAM and loving the integration: ua-cam.com/video/IM1H-h259QE/v-deo.html
@@AdventureRocks unfortunately I gave up on the TPMS through BMPRO and went with TireMinder i10. I lost communication as soon as I got in the truck. Supposedly BMPRO has come out with an extender for Bluetooth, but I was told it is only to improve communication between the sensors and the node.
@@AdventureRocks JayFeather 25 RB. The node is towards the back of the trailer. I like that they put yours in the pass through. Your wiring is way more tidy too. I watch your channel for what I would like in the future and that it’s in the Jayco line.
@@TheRealBiggerAl Okay, that is interesting. Always something new to learn. Hopefully they'll get those range issues ironed out long term as there's nothing more frustrating than having a nice system like the BMPro, but then not being able to use it.
I hear you. Would be nice if they incorporated digital tank level sensors instead of the age-old analog 1/3 measuring probes. Sometimes I have success doing tank flushes and cleaning, but even then some probes are just stubborn and won't get clean leaving wildly inaccurate readings.
Just viewed your Ultimate BMPro Guide. We have owned our 2024 Entegra Esteem 29V for 7 days and had no idea on how to use this command center. You methodically went through how to use the BMPro and I feel like I understand its operation now. You tips were very insightful too. Especially getting rid of the apps that could potentially create problems down the road. I am looking forward to watching the other information you have posted on this topic. Again, great job & thank you!
Glad to hear, thank you. Enjoy the new coach! I bet it's beautiful inside and out.
I’ve owned my 2022 Jayco Eagle for almost a month. This video was extremely helpful…especially after I struggled with the BMPRO app simply disappearing on the android tablet in the unit itself! Frustration was high trying to understand what I was dealing with. I use all IOS (Apple) products. It was really just a matter of connecting to strong wifi signal and downloading the BMPRO app again through the RV tablet!! It would have been so so SO much easier IF I had this “tutorial” OUTSTANDING!!! Thank you!
Thank you! Glad to hear it. If you haven't already I recommend disabling some of the unused apps in the Android > Settings > Apps as having those run in the bkg seems to cause issues uncessarily (e.g. UA-cam, Photos, etc. - the ones we don't use on it).
So true. These little tablets are a joke. Hopefully there is an upgrade that is available to purchase. To say this tablet is cumbersome is an understatement.
Wow, this was very good and informative we just bought a 2023 North Point 310RLTS and this is what it has, whenever I buy something like this I like to be educated on what I'm doing. This shows me ways that I didn't know exist but now I do, I was trying to set up my propane monitor but didn't know too much about it but now I know, this was very in deep and I appreciated this a lot.
Thank you, appreciate the feedback. Congrats on the North Point. Great choice!
Great vid, recently purchased a Jayco Northpoint & learned far more from you than anybody in the sales dept. & original orientation. Even the service tech conducting warranty work on the coach had no experience or knowledge of this system! (Canadian)
Thank you! Congrats on new rig! I love the North Point! It has so much to offer. Thank you for the kind words.
I think you so much for explaining the Jayco command center. Really appreciate it because when I first bought my fifth wheel I did not understand it at all.
Glad it helped!
This is the best overview of the BMPRO. Thanks
My experience with the app has been different. It freezes and looses connection a considerable amount of time. Having all of your systems run by an app and no backup or stability causes problems when living your rig full time.
Sorry to hear. That does sound frustrating. What phone model are you running?
I’m actually talking about the main control system. Just like you showed here. It is android based. That app misbehaves and becomes unresponsive. I’ve actually had the app completely loose Bluetooth and keep asking to be paired. To the point I had to clear it clear it’s data and cache and force stop to get it working again
@@mustangkline My mistake. Wow, that's frustrating for sure. I'm not full time, but use it quite a bit still. Does it help at all to disable the unused Android apps such as UA-cam, Music, etc.?
@@AdventureRocks I think that does help. That was one of the things I had to stop early on. However I made the mistake of stopping chrome as well. Google changed how they do things and a few months back they had a major update that caused apps to fail. Ours was one of them. I re-enabled the app and it helped for a little while. Now we are dealing with constant loss of connectivity to the point I’m looking at possibly ripping the whole system out and replacing it with a dedicated multiplexing system with dedicated software running it.
@@mustangkline Sorry to hear. That's got to be frustrating with the connectivity issue. Keep us posted how it turns out.
Thanks for the info. We pick up our Northpoint next week and this has been very helpful!
Glad to hear! Such a nice unit. Hope all goes smoothly.
Jeff, congrats on getting the North point! I'm sure you'll love it! The only real difference of the NorthPoint and Pinnacle is the width of the rigs. The Pinnacle is 8' wide (closed) where the NorthPoint is 7'4" (closed).... Depending on what year your getting, you should have the exact same features as our rigs.
Bonus info*..... If you go to the "settings" on the tablet, you will see "general settings".... Tap it 5 times and it will take you to the programming screen. Here you can change the layout of the screen, to include showing features that weren't installed at the factory. (Ie. Tank heaters, solar controller, hear pumps on various AC units).
To set it up correctly, look on the outside of the rig by your door for the build #. (This will be under your floor plan number)
Then go to the tablet and enter that in, it will then allow you to select what features you would like to see on the screen. I'm hoping to make a video of this in the future. Cheers
@@kreutztimothy great tip! Did not know about that hidden feature. Thanks for sharing!
@@AdventureRocks totally my pleasure! I've been in contact with BMPro and GoPower to find out the availability of getting my solar package connected to the Jaycommand node system. When I hear back from them I'll update you. When you actually go through the system and show the solar controller on the Jaycommand display, you'll see the information has the potential of showing, is just like the Victron...
@@kreutztimothy That'd be excellent. Thank you.
We haven't had had a chance to play with our BMPro/JayCommand system yet as we have only had our 5er for a month or so. We have 5 trips booked this year though. The wife & I are both Android tech nerds and we appreciate this review and all of the suggestions. I hadn't even thought about disabling the apps that aren't needed for the RV. 👍 Which Victron battery monitor system would suggest. Thanks for all the work that went into this!
Thank you! Glad to help. Once you get a chance to try it out more you'll have to report back with any other tips or findings on yours. Always enjoy learning off others. I like the Victron BMV-712 battery monitor (amzn.to/36GmxKC). I've used it on 3 different rigs now and really like it. Certainly could go cheaper, but it's just a nice interface overall. In my current Jayco I just put the display/remote in the basement storage next to vacuum since I'm usually connecting via Bluetooth on phone. They also make a bluetooth only version for a bit less, but still kinda nice having the analog display/remote.
What is the maximum size and number of propane tanks this system will support? Thanks for all the detailed videos on this 5th wheel and looking forward to more.
Glad to help. It'll support up to 40lb tanks, but also 20 and 30 lb tanks too. And in total it'll support up to 20 Bluetooth sensors connected, which as I understand it, includes temp sensors, tmps, propane, etc.
Excellent vid, great tips, especially with disabling unnecessary android apps. Once I get the unit back up, I will disable all apps that I don't need/want. My BMPro went blank, into a hard sleep, and I have yet to reset it. Tried resetting using the OF-ext but that didn't work. Tried resetting with paperclip on pin under the front panel and that started a reboot sequence on the unit but it went back to sleep after it rebooted and blank screen again within about 30 seconds and I couldn't do anything more. Today, I will try a hard reboot by removing the BMPro panel and removing the plug on the board and replugging. If that doesn't work, I am unfortunately out of options and will have to contact the dealer, ugh. Fortunately, I did discover that my RVMaster controller app on my phone still works all the systems so I am not totally DITW. There aren't many videos showing how to troubleshoot the BMPro. Thanks for your very informative video. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words. Hopefully you can get it back up and running.
You crushed this video. Thanks!
Glad to hear. Thank you for the kind words!
Do you have a winterizing video for the 22 Pinnacle. I love your videos and feel so well informed with less concerns for winter storage. Thanks, Al
Thank you, kindly. I appreciate that. I have not made a winterizing video yet, mainly I guess because I do not winterize my unit. We use it year round mostly and it doesn't get quite as cold here in Georgia so I just keep it heated on the few occasions where it gets into 20s. Maybe one day though...!?
I have a Jayco Eagle 355. We are Canadian so temps are set to Celsius. One feature that I would change is the lower limit of the temperature. We like it cool at night and prefer to use electric heat before gas kicks in. The system controls only go down to 16'C. I'd prefer to set it much lower. Also, you can't set the temperature level without having the system in heat or cool mode. This can start the furnace or AC unnecessarily. I have done some controls programming in my past career so might be a bit critical. Otherwise, this system seems to work well. It would be good to have it locked into the BMPro app with special permission to unlock so that unauthorized users, ie: teenagers, could not mess with things.
Great points!
Awesome video. We did get a fast walkthrough that touched high level review but your video does an great job diving in deeper. We just bought an Entegra Esteem 29V and only issue we are having is unable to setup Cloud Connection. I keep getting an error message and telling me to reset an SDK...? Not sure what to do there.
@@timwestfield I've heard BMPro is having an outage on their cloud server as of the last week or so...new issue. It's possible BMPro hasn't resolved it yet. Basically they are providing free DNS forwarding to follow your IP. So maybe try again in a week and see if it persists?
@@AdventureRocks Thanks. I did email their support but you're much faster at replying, lol. Also, do you have a video on the Victron Battery Monitor System? That sounds interesting.
@@timwestfield No prob! I did a vid on the Victron nearly 4 years ago so it's a bit dated when I was starting out here on YT, but it is out there still :) ua-cam.com/video/8j8Wd9tPWtA/v-deo.html
I have one of the Jayco Feather Micro TT’s (‘22) that I should receive in a few weeks. Can you with your phone change the temperature setting on your AC when not inside the RV?
How far away? Does your phone and your RV have to be under the same wifi network to communicate. Or under the cloud, can your phone on wifi communicate with your RV at a different location with a different wifi network?
Also is the BMPro system compatible with an IPhone?
Mine works about up to 20-30' outside the coach via bluetooth. Otherwise if you've got WiFi on your coach or nearby and BMPro is connected to cloud via WiFi, then you can change via a phone pretty much anywhere in the world where you've got internet. BMPro is bluetooth only for direct connection, so when you're out of bluetooth range, then you'll need an internet connection on both phone and BMPro system (whether wifi or cellular)...doesn't matter as long as they are all connected to internet. So you can change temp, water pump, water heater, lights...pretty much everything except for motors like slides, awnings...those only work via bluetooth for safety reasons. BMPro has apps for both iPhone and Android.
wow! This is very helpful information.
With luck I can keep an eye on the inside temp of the RV and make adjustments if ever needed for my dog.
I appreciate your tutorial on the BMPRO. I noticed when you were discussing the propane monitoring system mounted at the bottom of the tanks, I noticed you had three tanks you were monitoring. According to the MFG I wanted all three tanks monitored like you have since I have a generator too. They advised only two tanks can be monitored. Any advice you can give me or correction on my mis information on these sensors.
Unless they changed something I'd guess inadvertent misinformation. I think the limitation is more how many total Bluetooth sensors you have between temp, propane, etc. as the node only supports so many. I've got 3x temp and 3x propane and pretty sure I could add more. Maybe they just haven't tried it? You'll have to report back if you find out otherwise. Hope this helps!
I like the BM Pro system EXCEPT on the buttons on the bottom that control the lights and the slides and awnings. I would like to be able to change the buttons that control the lights to only one or 2 lights rather than pushing button 1 and have All lights come on. I would rather only 1 or 2 lights come on.
Agreed. That would be a nice software upgrade if you could customize the buttons. Great idea, I like it! I would imagine the BMPro team reads through these comments periodically, so maybe they'll factor that into a future update.
Yes, my 2022 Northpoint has the new integrated JayVoice control to work lights & HVAC. They also put the solar controler screen in it. Bummer, physical buttons went away.
Wow, that is great news on the solar controller! Sorry to hear about the buttons. I'm not 100% certain if that is due to parts shortage or permanent change. I sure hope it is just temporary as those buttons are in my opinion a VERY nice feature and separate it from some of the other systems. Thank you for sharing the update!
I wish they would have placed outdoor temp underside of front end of rig. When sun beats on it it shows very high temps
Agreed. I've noticed in winter it absorbs the wall temperature (internal surface heat) and runs 5-10 warmer than it should. Guess it's a dilemma where to get best readings year-round.
I have the BM PRO system and don’t have the tire sensors to measure tire pressure and temperature. I thought my ‘22 Pinnacle would have them installed but they are not. Can I purchase the TPS tire system from BM PRO. Any estimate on the cost?
Sometimes they're in the Jayco manual bag as I think the dealer is supposed to set them up. Unless they were left out by mistake. You can buy extra though, about $220 for 4x:
teambmpro.com/products/tyre-pressure-monitoring-smartpressure/
Could you do a video on the Overlander solar package with the inverter and how it is used/wired on your trailer?
Sure, glad to help. I can do that. I've actually had same question a few times now, so I'll think about how to organize that info and put out a video on it soon. Thank you for feedback.
As long as you keep the tablet and battery charged you are good. I am on my second tablet, barely under warranty, as the battery died from lack of AC power to keep it charged. It is s cheap $30 tablet but BMPRO wants over $600 for a replacement if out of warranty. Lots of posts on this at Jayco owners RV forum
Great advice! Thank you for sharing. I'm actually publishing a video this Sunday, 7/30, as a 2-year follow-up with problems and troubleshooting on the BMPro system. The follow-up video will kick-off a mini series on the BMPro system exploring self-service options for us owners at the 2+ year point moving forward including replacing with aftermarket, replacing just the battery in OEM tablet, and adding a 2nd higher-end tablet, all with pros and cons mixed in. Stay tuned!
100% These little tablets are a joke.
How do you charge the battery on the device?
@@susanmorton540 The tablet is powered by the coach battery.
My is 2 years old and it's out of control. It's turning on and off. It won't let me control it. I dislike that I can't manually control the heating system or the water heater. Luckily my phone is letting me control things still. I live in my jayco eagle travel trailer full time. I called the jayco dealership. I will probably have to buy another commander panel.
Sorry to hear about the difficulties. It can be frustrating for sure when you need to use it and it's not working right. You might want to try this video outlining the battery replacement as that could be a potential culprit in your case:
ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.html
Do you know to add options to the display? We just bought a 2022 Northpoint with generator prep. I have the generator installed and running but I need to add the generator options to the BMPro Energy page.
Yes, go to the "settings" sprocket within BMPro app on the coach's display. Then quickly tap the "general settings" heading at the top of the screen to enter programming mode. You'll see a set of menus to select your brand, model, and build sequence via VIN (some have it on a sticker by outside door with floorplan). Hope this helps!
Thank You so much. Was told I had to call Jayco or take it to the dealer. Done and started right up. Thanks Again!!
Just bought a 2024 Riverstone fifth wheel. They installed the BMPro new for 2024. I had a Onan 5500 generator installed and the tech couldn't figure out how to get the generator to display on the BMPro. I'm thinking if I can find where that brain unit for the BMPro is located maybe you connect to that. Appreciate any feedback you might have.
Nice choice on the Riverstone! Beautiful unit. My first thought is the gen is connected to the node (brain), but maybe your unit didn't get programmed and so that's why the buttons aren't showing up like mine in video. So I recommend trying the "programming" mode to add the gen to your unit in software. To do this you'll got to settings (sprocket icon) within the BMPro App and tap the "General Settings" gray bar 5 times in a row. That'll take you to configuration mode to program. Basically you select your model and add the features/options on your unit. Here's a PDF from BMPro with more info:
bmpro.zendesk.com/attachments/token/X1wJ1ljhRvkLqp2dCQO8pnUGg/?name=034559+-+JAYCOMMAND+Help+Guide+-+Configuring+your+RV+v1.3.pdf
Otherwise if the configuration/programming doesn't work, I suppose it's possible the gen didn't get connected to the node. But, I think you'd at least see the buttons in the app if that was the case. Either way if you can find an locate the node/brain where all the wires converge, you could check to make sure it is physically connected. Mine is pictured at about 01:57 in the video. Usually it's in the basement storage...needs a decent amount of room for all the wires and such. Last, another video to keep handy for future is the one below for troubleshooting connectivity issues:
ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.html
Thank you for the reply I will look into that and get you an update.
How do get out of internet screen & go back home screen for the settings of the coach????
If you're using the built-in tablet in the coach (the Android-based one), you'll use the small "back" icon along bottom of screen (kinda like a triangle pointing left). If you're using another phone or device, depending on the version of OS, you may have a similar back icon, or you can swipe backwards from left (other versions it is swiping to the right). Hope this helps!
Can you download the app on a I pad I can not understand how these work but thanks .I have 2 panicles and need to know how to get separate apps for both.
I think so. The app may not scale the same on a larger screen, but shouldn't be too much different. Might be easiest to keep 2x separate devices for 2x separate units. I am not sure if BMPro has provisioned multiple units within the app?
Hello
So i am interested into upgrading my analog command center into touchscreen. Mostly because i want to have the remote control of the climate. Do you know if its possible and if it is where can i buy it
Great question. That I am not sure. But, are you able to pair via bluetooth with your system? If so, I would imagine the node is designed such that it can be interchangeable on the controllers. The controller in video is merely paired via bluetooth to the node.
thank you.... great stuff
I cant get my phone to connect to the node, also I reset to factory settings and the controller wont connect to the node so I'm stuck in bad situations right now. any help would be great. thanks
Sorry to hear about the trouble. These can be tricky sometimes. Below video has some steps that you may have tried already, but just in case:
ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.html
You can also clear node of all bluetooth pairings in case it has maxed out:
teambmpro.com/wp-content/uploads/035285-RVMaster-Help-Guide-pairing-node-controller.pdf
If there are any other key symptoms you're noticing let me know and maybe I can come up with some other ideas.
@renefig mentions keeping the tablet charged. Isnt the tablet automatically being charged 24/7?
I think he was talking about when it is in storage, perhaps.
Can add the Victron app as well on the tablet which is nice. The GX has better electrical and tank capabilities.
Thank you for tip. I have not used GX yet. You like it overall?
We purchased Pinnacle 2022. No buttons on the bottom of the BMPro. It was advertised that it had it. Didn’t catch it when purchased the unit. They informed us that they didn’t have the chips to make it work. Now they won’t add the touch pad. Your thoughts?
Sorry to hear about that. In my opinion those hard buttons below screen are one of the big selling points of the BMPro system. I have seen a lot of the 2022s without them, but my hope has been they'll catch-up on the supply and start adding them back in. It would seem like a possibility at least, even if they had to charge a nominal fee to customers. Did you reach out to CustomerCare@jayco.com already?
I have a 2021 pinnacle that the bum pro is showing 20% battery on the actual device. It’s like the device isn’t charging…. What can I do?
Saw your other comment and replied there. Could also be battery inside tablet, but here's one I did showing what symptoms led to mine needing replacement:
ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.html
We just signed the papers on a 2022 321 RSTS. The command module does NOT have any of the manual buttons/switches or LCD screen along the bottom. All blank. Dealer said this was to circumvent "shortages or whatever". I'm curious if you or others have seen this, and more curious if it can be replaced with a "normal" version in the future. Quite disappointed that Jayco sent it out this way.
Oh wow, I can imagine the disappointment. 100% agree. I think you're the first one to mention that shortage. Surely there has to be a way to swap it out after they replenish the supply and catch up. In my opinion that's one of the main features that sets the BMPro system apart from others. It's not a deal breaker in that you'll still be able to access everything, but those hardwired buttons are nice especially if the tablet portion would ever fail. I wonder if you reached out to BMPro support to inquire? They may just say you need to contact Jayco, but I've had much better responses from BMPro on questions submitted through their website compared to Jayco, so worth a shot? Sorry to hear about that.
@@AdventureRocks Thanks. I just wrote to BMPro. we'll see. I'm curious just how many rigs went out like this. Excellent video btw... thank you.
app update just came out...it also updates the firmware on the node.
My new pinnacle was just delivered, and my one scary question is on the motor screen there is a retract all. Can I dump my 5th wheel on the ground if that is pushed with no truck under the pin?
Is there a way to disable that button?
Did yours come with the Lippert jacks or Equalizer? On the Equalizer system "retract all" just means retract all the rear 4x jacks and leaving front 2x alone. But last time I had the Lippert system, "retract all" literally would retract all 6x jacks like you mentioned...only for use once hitched up. I don't know if it's still the same today as that was several years ago. Maybe ask the folks in Pinnacle group on Facebook to confirm. Surely there's a way to quickly stop it if you press by accident?
@@AdventureRocks
Called my salesman, he said it will retract all. I’m not going to try it until I hook up again.
There should be a way to disable that button or at least 2 step confirmation before it activates.
I was looking in the utility bay to hook up a Hughs Autoformer. I see no main power connection???
It’s a 32RLTS and my cord reel is in the rear corner.
@@TheDesertdawg1I hear you, definitely more of an issue with the Lippert system compared to the Equalizer given how they function. I had the Equalizer version so did not occur to me, but you raise a good point with the Lippert version the way it works. If you wanted, you could disconnect the wires connecting the Lippert keypad to the BMPro node...you should see 2-4 wires (potentially a small harness) attaching to the BMPro Node, likely on the right side labeled on node. That would completely disable the BMPro system from communicating with the Lippert jacks, so then you'd only be able to control the jacks via the Lippert keypad outside...downside, but it would prevent accidental touch.
For Autoformer qeustion...On your 32RLTS, did you get the gen prep option? If so, you can hook-up the Autoformer right by the transfer switch by intercepting, which I think should be behind your basement storage mechanical area like mine? If no gen prep/transfer switch, then you may have to gain access to the 50A power by the actual converter panel itself...may be tricky getting access, but should be a way to make it work. Hope this helps.
@@TheDesertdawg1 Btw here's a video on the Hughes to see if yours is similar setup in mechanical area: ua-cam.com/video/yXfiVdz4adI/v-deo.html
Is there an analog back up system? In case a systems crash or other issues
Basically the hard buttons along bottom of wall screen are separate from the tablet, so that is the hardwired system essentially. It can only control the slides, awning, lights, and water pump, but for me that seems sufficient for the critical systems. Then the leveling system has a dedicated, separate panel in wet bay. And, as I understand it, even if the tablet went caput, you can still Bluetooth via phone app as that goes straight to node. So far it's been very reliable for me personally (about 6 months). I think key is disabling Android apps that aren't necessary to make it stable. I'll have to report back after 1 year, 2 etc. I'll definitely share any updates along journey or issues I encounter long term.
2022 the Node has no button’s across the Botton of the Node.
Luckily the Mobile app saves the day, while you must figure out an error in the system. Like freezing up on a screen.
Manuals aren’t on line for this Lite version yet.
You are correct...think it happened late 21 to present. Sad to see that...those buttons really are a HUGE selling point in my opinion. Still a nice system without, but I gotta say those buttons give it an edge over other systems in my opinion. Hopefully they'll be back in stock soon so they can outfit units with them in the future.
Looks like BMPro has propane sensors called Smart sense premium that show propane percentages now
Interesting! Thank you for sharing.
Where did you buy the additional sensors?
@@smabernethy I bought direct from BMPro. It seemed like they were out of stock everywhere else at the time.
I need to find the busbar/fusebox. I hope I have unused circuits.
My van has a propane sensor that reports to the BMPro. Inexplicably, the on/off switch for the propane is outside. It should be available at the tablet and at the phone app.
I would assume, there’s an apple App as well for this system ?
Yes, correct on iOS. I do not have experience personally as I am an Android phone user, but I would expect it to be a pretty similar experience.
We are about to purchase a Pinacle. Will this work with an I phone as we both have I phones?
Yes, they have an app for both Android and iOS. I have not used the iOS app, but I have not heard complaints that it's drastically different in connectivity compared to the Android version, so I have no reason to believe the experience isn't just as good. Hope everything goes smoothly with your new purchase!
Any feedback on why my JAYCOMMAND shows a generator fault and does not track hours? The generator runs well and I’m not able to get any fault codes from the generator itself. Is there a way to reset the unit to clear the fault? Any idea how to get hours to be tracked and shown in the unit itself? Really appreciate the rest of your content regarding the unit itself. Would be great if you could do a video on the Equalizer leveling system, finding level/setting null, and your process for unhitching on an unlevel site.
Do you think it could be a loose wire perhaps on gen inputs? You could check on the node in basement to see if any wires are loose or missing on the gen inputs. And, then check if those same wires are secure on the generator itself. I haven't had issues with the gen hours, but I haven't gotten any specific fault codes on mine. Only times I've seen fault are 2x when I've accidentally run it out of fuel. But, when I restart gen after replenishing propane the fault goes away on its own. I haven't ever seen a fault code, but assumed it wasn't capable of showing them. Almost would be nice to have the standard analog onan control panel that normally comes with it in units without BMPro, perhaps mounted in basement storage where you could get all that if needed. Almost like the redudant equalizer panel in wetbay. I wonder if it's possible to add that analog Onan control/display? I'll have to look into that as that'd be kinda nice actually.
On the leveling I had a bit of a learning curve as the Equalizer works a good bit different compared to Lippert that I was accustomed too. I discovered the auto level button only works under specific circumstances if the rear jacks are retracted and the rear jack lights are off. So whereas with Lippert you could go back and press "auto level" a day after setting up camp and it'd re-level in case you sank a bit, with Equalizer you have to fully retract first and then press auto level again. And, I've had to redo the null setting a few times as well. Since I got all that figured out it has worked great now. Maybe I can put a video on that in future as it was kinda confusing figuring out.
@@AdventureRocks thanks again for your comments and thorough feedback. I will check the wires and see if by chance that may be causing the fault and 0.0 hours listed.
Agree, the equalizer is a bit different and not much content available on them yet. Do you find it necessary to level the unit using wood under the tires when pulling in first or do you find that the system is able to self-level once unhitched? Prior 5th wheel was electric leveling so a bit different and so I’m still figuring this out as well. Are the front landing jacks supposed to self level if the unit is parked in an uneven spot when unhitching or do you suggest blocks under the jacks/tires?
@@barrettyoung9613 I also had the Lippert electric leveling before so had gotten used to it. On the Equalizer I have not had to use wood blocks on tires yet. I think there was only one campsite I recall where it was pretty sloped and the Equalizer still handled it just fine witht he auto level. If I ever do get a site where jacks are out of stroke I'd personally just put a 1-2" block/pad under the jack(s) out of stroke and let it continue. Anymore than that and I guess probably better to block under the tires at that point. I've actually used it to very carefully fully lift the tires off ground in my flat storage area to remove tires and work on running gear. It lifts it pretty high if needed.
I basically do mostly the same as the Lippert electric leveling on the unhitching side as far as deploying front jacks manually first, raising nose of fifth wheel to unhitch, pulling truck out fully. And then I just press the auto level button and wait for it to do its thing. Initially when I first got my rig I think the null setting was off, and then other times I had failed to push the "retract all" on the opposite/reverse while hitching up. On the Lippert "retract all" would literally retract all the jacks including front, whereas on the Equalizer it just retracts the 4x rear. So that threw me off initially. But, I think you have to press the "retract all" when hitching up in order for the "auto level" to work the next time unhitching if that makes sense. A tech at Equalizer told me the "auto level" only works if the rear jack lights are off (not red) on panel. Another tip if you ever get out of sequence and the Equalizer panel won't respond to input and just long beeps...I just pull the fuse at the hydraulic pump to reset it (or you could pull harness from back of control, but harder to reach). The other thing I've noticed is the Equalizer brain is entirely part of the control panel, whereas on the Lippert it had other sensors throughout. So, I've noticed that the Equalizer gets it close to level, but perhaps not as precise as Lippert due to the Equalizer's level sensor being in the control panel itself? Anyway once I got all that figured out it has worked great. Definitely different compared to the Lippert version.
@@AdventureRocks will definitely try this and play some more with it here at home on the pad. Again, thanks for the input! I see you’re in GA so we’re just next door in SC
@@barrettyoung9613 Neighbors :)
Very informative video. Unfortunately we hate the BMPRO Jaycommand. We just had a new one put in along with a new node. Original died. We've got a 2022 Eagle 317RLOK. We made the mistake of leaving the dealership after installation without pairing our phones to it. Got home, extended the slides and attempted to pair our phones. Neither Android phone paired and the BMPRO is stuck in pairing mode. We can't even get it back to the control screen to operate anything. We will be calling the dealer tomorrow. What a bunch of junk!
Sorry to hear about all your troubles. Out of curiosity does your unit lack the dedicated buttons under screen? In other words, do you have the two "light" switches in lieu of the dedicated buttons?
Yeah. These little tablets are pure junk. Looking for some kind of option to get a better tablet.
How do you paire your bmpro to the wall units for lights in each room.
They should be paired from factory. Did your battery in wall remotes go bad? Or did factory not pair/program them?
Great video! Thank you purchasing a north point next week was wondering about the propane and tire pressure sensors did it come with the system or purchased separately
Congrats on purchase! Yes, mine came with the tire pressure sensors, but I had to buy the propane sensors separately.
@@AdventureRocks thanks for the reply I’m binge watching all of your videos now thanks!!
How do you get your zero point calibration settings to pop up in the settings page
I might have missed that. I have the equalizer system and do the zero point via exterior panel in wet bay.
Does not cover what to do with BMpro tablet is in storage forv6 months with no power for the coach. How do you stop the battery from being totally discharged
Yes, see this 2-year follow-up showing how to power down tablet using the small pinhole: ua-cam.com/video/AWtvF7zCHSw/v-deo.htmlsi=wHLVXTkZlO9OGbJV&t=391
Select the "power off" option instead of restart, and that'll keep tablet off. You may also need to install a true battery disconnect that cuts off EVERYTHING...as the OEM disconnect switch still leaves some things on. See this video for more details:
ua-cam.com/video/2wgWWzzYRzk/v-deo.htmlsi=9Y8an7geZVYdfeoZ&t=144
Basically if you don't kill all the power to coach, the BMPRO system may power back on randomly even while in storage. Another way to keep power from getting to BMPRO tablet is to disconnect the 4-pin connector behind BMPRO tablet bezel, but that may be a little more obtrusive having snap and un-snap panel each time. Here's video with more details:
ua-cam.com/video/7fFEkbqOi08/v-deo.htmlsi=LBKh8Ko2p08-4LQM&t=1261
I would have liked the ability to add or change custom names such as S1 To Bedroom
Agreed, that would be nice 👍🏻
I both a used 2022 highland how can I unlock the android pattern lock om my display without having the pattern
Yes, if previous owner set a pattern you'll need to perform what is called an "android hard reset with buttons" - You'll need to remove tablet from bezel (see 9:10 timecode @ ua-cam.com/video/ijA74QSBfWs/v-deo.htmlsi=RVzB0H5jqTSfiVrl&t=550 ) and then follow these steps:
Press and hold the power and volume down buttons until a load screen appears. Use the volume buttons to go down the list and select “Recovery mode.” Press the power button. After the phone restarts, use the volume buttons again to select “Wipe data/factory reset.
I cannot open to my home screen because it asked for a password which I can't remember. Is there a factory password and how so I reset it?
The owner's manual suggests that you need to contact Jayco for a replacement in that case :0 ...but, I've got an idea for you to try if you're up for it... (in full disclosure I've never done this on my tablet, so try at your own risk...however I've done it on other Android tablets). Basically any Android device can be hard reset via hardware buttons using following method below, which erases any passcodes:
1) You'll need to remove the tablet from the bezel (see ua-cam.com/video/AWtvF7zCHSw/v-deo.html)
2) Carefully remove the bottom circuit board that blocks the tablet from sliding out of the bezel (a few screws...be careful with fragile ribbon cable that connects to circuit board)
3) Next power down the tablet completely (hold power button and shutdown)
4) Once tablet is off completely hold volume down and power button at same time
5) Keep holding the buttons until you see the Android recovery menu
6) Use the volume buttons to navigate to the option "factory reset"
7) Press the power button to confirm your selection.
Here's a more detailed guide:
www.lifewire.com/use-android-recovery-mode-7109841
Basically the above steps will completely erase your tablet, and it should then re-install the original factory BMPro software just like it came fresh from the factory. You'll have to report back and let us know what you find out.
I've been dealing with loss communication on this system. Had to update firmware finally got it to idle. But today back to loss communication can't use the motors for slides or leveling. Unfortunately jayco is a bit puzzled of this aswell. Is there another step I need to be doing. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
Sorry to hear about the troubles. Will it let you pair with your smartphone instead? And do you have the version with the dedicated buttons below screen or without?
Are you able to see your TPMS reading while underway on your phone?
Yes, no issues there. Once you pair your phone it'll automatically connect via bluetooth and then you can view TMPS on your phone via app while in truck. I have had no issues with bluetooth range. I like that the BMPro TMPS is just those screw on stem caps, as then you can also run redudant TMPS inside the tires with OEM truck sensors to EVIC since most are supporting them now. I installed the ones that came with my RAM and loving the integration: ua-cam.com/video/IM1H-h259QE/v-deo.html
@@AdventureRocks unfortunately I gave up on the TPMS through BMPRO and went with TireMinder i10. I lost communication as soon as I got in the truck. Supposedly BMPRO has come out with an extender for Bluetooth, but I was told it is only to improve communication between the sensors and the node.
@@TheRealBiggerAl Interesting. That's no good if it won't work inside your truck. Remind me what floor plan you have?
@@AdventureRocks JayFeather 25 RB. The node is towards the back of the trailer. I like that they put yours in the pass through. Your wiring is way more tidy too. I watch your channel for what I would like in the future and that it’s in the Jayco line.
@@TheRealBiggerAl Okay, that is interesting. Always something new to learn. Hopefully they'll get those range issues ironed out long term as there's nothing more frustrating than having a nice system like the BMPro, but then not being able to use it.
My jaycommand sucks on tank level accuracy
I hear you. Would be nice if they incorporated digital tank level sensors instead of the age-old analog 1/3 measuring probes. Sometimes I have success doing tank flushes and cleaning, but even then some probes are just stubborn and won't get clean leaving wildly inaccurate readings.