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Wind Rated Garage Doors - Here's What You NEED TO KNOW!

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 138

  • @whitefeather5629
    @whitefeather5629 3 роки тому +46

    Good lessons on the screws not to mess with. I learned the hard way. Lost two teeth. I consider myself lucky it could have been worse.

    • @brainwater
      @brainwater 3 роки тому +4

      I'm willing to do a lot of DIY, but I'll never mess with garage door springs.

  • @oldfatandtired6406
    @oldfatandtired6406 3 роки тому +3

    I just passed the 47 year mark of working on garage doors. This video is one of the few on UA-cam that i was able to watch without screaming at my laptop or thinking " this person is an idiot".
    Garage doors are big, heavy and can really mess up your day. Over the years, i have seen injuries much worse that "loosing a couple teeth". It still puzzles me that the stupid things a guy will do trying to save paying a service call and have a door fixed correctly

  • @kevinwhite1182
    @kevinwhite1182 3 роки тому +2

    Matt, your videos are awesome! I’m literally doing house renovations and you’re posting videos of the same things I’m doing - from the attic insulation to buying windows, to now garage doors! Love it! Thank you. Btw, you need a size up on that shirt bro - just sayin... thanks brother- you’re the best!

  • @lex_m_
    @lex_m_ 3 роки тому +5

    Man who knew always nice to learn something new here

  • @ashleypeters8733
    @ashleypeters8733 3 роки тому +23

    Will you be replacing those garage door tracks with the ThermoTraks you mentioned in your Garage Door - Air & Bug Sealing episode?

    • @hansangb
      @hansangb 3 роки тому +1

      I'm trying to line up some neighbors (in a condo) for a custom order of ThermoTraks. That looks like a legit solution. I didn't know he did an episode, I'll have to go look it up. Thanks

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 3 роки тому +6

      They must not have ponied up enough cash to sponsor!!!

    • @scorpio6587
      @scorpio6587 3 роки тому +2

      @@srt4b or they might void the rating on the door.

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 3 роки тому +2

      @@scorpio6587 this is a good point and a strong possibility

    • @garagedoordoctorofhouston6518
      @garagedoordoctorofhouston6518 3 роки тому +2

      If he does he has violated the windload rating since the tracks must come from the manufacturer of the door

  • @davidhoover2446
    @davidhoover2446 3 роки тому +1

    Good video. On the treasure coast of Florida our entire envelope has to withstand 160mph winds (in our specific area) to meet code. So, we're used to having "hurricane" doors.

  • @bradfletcher8867
    @bradfletcher8867 3 роки тому +2

    Good information. Going to make sure my next G. Door is highly rated.

  • @frostman9661
    @frostman9661 3 роки тому +36

    You should do one on r-value and air tightness on garage doors.

    • @gordonbeaulieu678
      @gordonbeaulieu678 3 роки тому

      Or a schweiss door!

    • @perfectimagesigns5715
      @perfectimagesigns5715 3 роки тому +1

      Wayne Dalton ThermoMark™ Model 530 is the most insulated garage door I could find, I love mine😎

    • @RaoulHira
      @RaoulHira 3 роки тому

      @@perfectimagesigns5715 what did they cost you? Look amazing!

    • @perfectimagesigns5715
      @perfectimagesigns5715 3 роки тому

      @@RaoulHira just under $3,000 plus install

    • @FreekHoekstra
      @FreekHoekstra 3 роки тому

      @@perfectimagesigns5715 that sounds like a fairly reasonable price actually!
      is that including opening closing hardware remote etc? 1 car/2 car?

  • @AngelAndTheWolf
    @AngelAndTheWolf 3 роки тому +4

    Garage doors with ceiling mounted chain motors often have a chain disengage lever with a rope pull hanging down. A burgler can thread a clothes hanger through the top seal of the door, and grab the handle on that rope, releasing the door from the chain. Remove the wood handle so that the burgler has nothing to grab.

  • @jacksak
    @jacksak 3 роки тому +8

    Some of the negative comments here are hostile and moronic. Matt is full of useful information which comes from his own research regardless of sponsorship. He brings up subjects many people would never have thought of which can be used by anyone to decide for themselves the best way to go on their own projects. Without Matt's input some jobs might be built with hidden mistakes or less than should be.

    • @dw9147
      @dw9147 Рік тому

      I agree Matt provides very useful information. The door he is showing wouldn't be allowed in Miami-Dade County because it is not impact rated. He even shows us the proof of what a weak door this is. My garage door is impact rated and the strength is alot higher. My garage door is rated +55/-64, A garage door rated for 107 mph would not pass our building code in Miami-Dade. Here where I live try in Miami-Dade County, old door is Wind Load 175 mph (3-second gust). But the newer codes are even stronger. But, Matt does provide great information, but remember his knowledge is limited to where he lives and he is correct. But you may or may not need much higher stronger materials. After Hurricane Andrew, I don think there was a single garage door left. Every house was missing a garage door after Hurricane Andrew. If you want to build something strong Risk Category IV wind speeds are as follows: Miami-Dade County Risk Category IV Buildings and Structures: 195 mph. Broward County Risk Category IV Buildings and Structures: 185. Hurricanes don't play.

    • @jacksak
      @jacksak Рік тому

      @@dw9147 Thank you. I'm up here in NH on the Canadian border where climate extremes mean we also have some different regulations.

  • @mefferso04
    @mefferso04 3 роки тому

    A friend of mine that I went to grad school with at Texas Tech actually works at IBHS. So cool you did a video on this!

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 3 роки тому

    I liked this video for one big reason: LOTS of good info for real world problems home owners should know.

  • @jimpie231
    @jimpie231 5 місяців тому

    I’m kind of surprised that you didn’t talk size at all. When I had my tract home built in 2003, I ordered 3 options in the garage. Option 1 was a 3 car garage, Option 2 was an insulated garage door, and Option 3 was 8’ high garage doors. Everything was ok till 2019, when the 16x8’ door kinda folded in, I replaced it with a CHI overhead, insulated and fully laminated door. Today I saw your video and learned a few things about doors. I like in a NW suburb of Chicago. The video was great and thanks. Only question I have is why not a 3 car garage and not an 8’ high door?

  • @Jookyforever
    @Jookyforever 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for making this video. Helpful to actually see one of the stickers. BTW this is in the 2018 IBC with very confusing words in Section 1709.5.1. Engineering wise, the reason this is important, is that when you get a big hole in your exterior wall from one of these doors failing during a windstorm, it is like allowing someone to start blowing into a balloon. The internal pressure rises and can then push up your roof, or push out your walls.

  • @shredmonster76
    @shredmonster76 3 роки тому +5

    That is an OHD Brand Door, in that color it would have been strutted out for thermal bowing regardless of your psf requirements. I work for an OHD dealer here in Socal and that style door is very popular here with our local builders. I install a ton of them.

    • @colinstu
      @colinstu 3 роки тому +1

      Do the struts get thicker or larger when the PSF rating goes up? Or is it achieved other ways.

    • @shredmonster76
      @shredmonster76 3 роки тому +2

      @@colinstu Yeah, the construction of the door remains the same, PSF is achieved thru progressively larger struts. There is a limit to the maximum rating the manufacturer will guarantee.

  • @kentnauman9863
    @kentnauman9863 3 роки тому +14

    When someone backs into it with their truck you will see how strong it is.

    • @Robyrob7771
      @Robyrob7771 3 роки тому +1

      Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Garage door got two dented panels one broken hinge in the center but did not collapse and still worked as designed 👍🏻

  • @scorpio6587
    @scorpio6587 3 роки тому

    Awesome. I love that side opener. I am VERY interested in the fortified standard.

  • @oldskoolwayy
    @oldskoolwayy 3 роки тому +1

    Love the build show..

  • @Legendary_UA
    @Legendary_UA 3 роки тому

    Love that Chamberlain direct drive opener.

  • @titaniumman_22
    @titaniumman_22 3 роки тому +11

    Mine is, it works out. But it is also hurricane/tornado resistant.

    • @Pointyy
      @Pointyy 3 роки тому

      Now make it hurricane/tornado proof

  • @roupa131
    @roupa131 3 роки тому

    Very educational. Thank you sir.

  • @umeng2002
    @umeng2002 2 роки тому

    I went through Hurricane Andrew as a kid. OSB window covers didn't help. A small softball sized puncture changed the air pressure so much, it collapse the ceiling as soon as the puncture happened. The whole house needed to be gutted down to the framing and rebuilt. Mainly from the water intrusion. The garage door held up though. I would recommend you evacuate in any Cat 4 or 5 hurricane. Our house was cinder block though.

  • @aarontuplin
    @aarontuplin 3 роки тому +1

    I got a WindCode 6 rated garage door 2 years ago. My area didn't call for it, but 5 miles away it does. So I got one anyway.

  • @robertdean9392
    @robertdean9392 3 роки тому

    Good info. Red means stop!!!!

  • @DanAtEXIT
    @DanAtEXIT 3 роки тому +1

    Good stuff

  • @1227Masher
    @1227Masher 3 роки тому

    Matt - another great video. Curious - did you get the dent fixed in your new garage door? Curious to see how the installer took care of that for you?

  • @user-bv2hc8nn8m
    @user-bv2hc8nn8m 2 місяці тому

    Also get 3 “ tracks angle mounted to wood would help a lot

  • @echtogammut
    @echtogammut 3 роки тому +3

    I had to chuckle wryly when I saw this. The other day, my garage door spring broke. When I went to help the garage door tech lift the door he slipped and the door crashed on my finger, breaking it. It was my middle finger so, I will be unintentionally flipping off people for a little while.

  • @sergeybebenin
    @sergeybebenin 3 роки тому +3

    Surprised Matt didn't go with 49/-49 😆

  • @313theskillz
    @313theskillz 3 роки тому

    I like how you do things for sure Matt, you remind me of my old boss Zach everything had to be perfection.

  • @grey8ghost1
    @grey8ghost1 3 роки тому

    Another element to consider when replacing a garage door. As I watched the video I was hoping you would tell us about the side mounted door opener. Benefits, cost differential, ease of installation, etc. Other considerations such as new build vs. remodel. Thanks

    • @Adesico87
      @Adesico87 3 роки тому

      He did a video covering that. Cant recall if it’s on YT or his Instagram

  • @richardwilczek205
    @richardwilczek205 3 роки тому

    Always learning a lot from you. Keep up the good work. I am new to San Antonio and looking for builders experienced with AAC and steel frame. I want minimal wood. I am very disappointed in local build standards and code; low quality material and premium cost. I have a limited budget (no more than $400k and want a single floor house 1,900-2,000 sqf. Can you recommend builders in the SA area?

  • @charlesrodriguez7984
    @charlesrodriguez7984 2 роки тому

    I live in Colorado. It gets really windy here and the repeated strong north and northwest winds have caused my home’s original garage door to bend inwards. It was replaced with one rated for 100+ mph winds.

  • @alonzosmith6189
    @alonzosmith6189 3 роки тому +6

    I will be looking for that sticker on my door.

  • @robertwolfley9068
    @robertwolfley9068 2 роки тому

    Great video I'm I'm Florida I went with w5

  • @CDArena
    @CDArena 3 роки тому +2

    Our door has an installable center pillar to add a third vertical brace

  • @scottfortune9016
    @scottfortune9016 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @robertwalter2841
    @robertwalter2841 3 роки тому

    Great Content! I find No Stickers for rating on my door. I'll be contacting the installer company to determine if struts can be added to some sections. The 16x8 door has 2 horizontal struts but with 5 panels I imagine it could benefit from 1-3 more. The 8x8 door has no struts to reinforce.

  • @tonyphelps399
    @tonyphelps399 3 роки тому +2

    Biggest garage door needs other than reliability. Insulation and sealing around the perimeter.

  • @prohomespa108
    @prohomespa108 Рік тому

    Which door is that? Looks nice!

  • @matthewrivera5484
    @matthewrivera5484 3 роки тому +1

    Who knew I could be interested about garage doors. But I was

  • @TheRealE.B.
    @TheRealE.B. 3 роки тому +5

    A few years back, there was a U.S. Air Force base in Florida where they didn't design the hangars to survive high wind if the hangar doors where left open or got blown in. I think a few administrative buildings were under-designed, too.
    Anyway, a modest hurricane hit, and the Air Force base did not have a good time. Spoiler Alert: Air Force bases are supposed to be better at surviving hurricanes than shoddy vacation homes.

    • @magneric
      @magneric 3 роки тому +2

      You'll be surprised how many Air Force buildings/roads are built with subpar standards. They love to pick the "cheapest" contractors with the cheapest materials that charge the government rating, which is pretty close to double what they would normally charge to civilians. In Nebraska they're still using buildings that have been there since WW2 which are barely maintained that should be condemned because of how hazardous they are to be in but they're just going to wait for someone to die or a building to fall apart before they change anything.

    • @bamascubaman
      @bamascubaman 3 роки тому

      Modest? You are either deliberately talking out of your ass or woefully ignorant. The event you are talking about is hurricane Michael hitting the Florida coast & Tyndall Air Force base as a Cat 5, with winds recorded up to 162 mph.

    • @TheRealE.B.
      @TheRealE.B. 3 роки тому

      @@magneric Governments going with the lowest bidder to "save taxpayer money" is definitely a real problem, but I am under the impression that the Florida incident was more of an engineering snafu than a problem with the contractor(s).
      I don't really blame contractors for charging the government more than they would private industry, though. The paperwork associated with a government construction project is horrendous, so I assume the overhead for a contractor is higher than usual. It's also really hard to sue the federal government, so higher profit margins to compensate for higher risk of getting f***ed over by their customer is probably reasonable. I'm under the impression that newbie contractors who bid their first government job like it's a private job often end up getting milked by the government because they don't know what they're getting into. Still, the whole ecosystem attracts contractors who are good at navigating government contracts, not necessarily at building things.
      I'm not sure if there's really a way to fix this, or if inefficiencies are inevitable in an organization as large and complex as the federal government trying to maintain continuity of operations instead of trying to make a profit and exit or just generate externalities like a lot of megacorporations do. Not that the federal government doesn't have externalities. I just know that maintaining systems sucks in the modern era, with techology changing as fast as it does. By the time everyone learns the new way of doing things, it's already outdated.

  • @brent1041
    @brent1041 3 роки тому

    Code for the garage door on our new house in Minnesota is 120mph wind rated. That made for a very expensive 20’x9’ door

  • @michiganengineer8621
    @michiganengineer8621 3 роки тому +2

    Didn't show it but, it seems as if the _easiest_ way to reinforce a garage door is to ensure that the brackets connecting the track to the wall studs are inline (or close to) the _closed_ position for the rollers on the door panels. I.E. if your panels are 24" high, your brackets between the track and the wall are approximately 24" apart going up each side of the door.

  • @dabeamer42
    @dabeamer42 3 роки тому +4

    notes on the red screws are worth the price of admission

    • @kevins9576
      @kevins9576 3 роки тому

      I work for raynor garage doors and sometimes it goes further than just red screws, we have actual hardware components that are powder coated red. Always remember red means dead......

  • @Adam_K_W
    @Adam_K_W Рік тому

    I noticed that you didn't use the side tracks with the little kickouts at each wheel to push the garage door tighter to the wall in the closed position. I forget what they are called, but you did a video on those tracks about a year ago...

  • @TeslaBoy123
    @TeslaBoy123 Рік тому

    Allways everything on red mean danger 🥵

  • @Dragon-yw4xw
    @Dragon-yw4xw 3 роки тому +2

    Can you do a zombie proof garage door review? 😆

  • @rajun1231
    @rajun1231 3 роки тому

    Matt, what brand garage door did you install?

  • @emo65170.
    @emo65170. 3 роки тому

    Does the type of opener contribute to the strength of the door?

  • @NaveenKumar-oj7xh
    @NaveenKumar-oj7xh 3 роки тому

    But what about Canada? Do we follow the same system?

  • @Bremend
    @Bremend 3 роки тому

    Any particular reason why you circled risk category II?

  • @virgil3241
    @virgil3241 3 роки тому

    Well I hope my two are, were there when I moved in. Had 120 kmrh winds and still there, so must be something

  • @pclose9
    @pclose9 Рік тому

    i noticed that you're garage door opener says 8,500 watts what exactly does that mean? does it mean that its a 240 volt system ? if so 8,500 watts ? does this mean that i will not be able to use my 7000 watt generator to open the door after the hurricane is gone?

  • @mitchdenner9743
    @mitchdenner9743 3 роки тому

    Sprung that spring, thats a new one. 😄

    • @kevins9576
      @kevins9576 3 роки тому

      With handles 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. We call them wound, with winding bars........

  • @ChrisDembinsky
    @ChrisDembinsky 2 роки тому

    I'm having trouble finding a 20'x8' wind rated residential garage door for category III. Does anyone have any suggestions?

  • @kylelaw7210
    @kylelaw7210 7 місяців тому

    It would be nice if you could get a discount on homeowners insurance by “over building”/building to the fortified standard.

  • @Robyrob7771
    @Robyrob7771 3 роки тому

    I’ve seen storms blow in a garage door then push the outside wall off the house. Brand new house mid 90s. My garage doors are single car (less span between tracks) double skin, insulated. No rating but I’ve seen them withstand 80MPH winds without issue. I would bet the garage would suffer catastrophic damage before the doors let go.

  • @INDSTRCTBLE
    @INDSTRCTBLE 3 роки тому

    @matt got a hold of Steve Lesem... we will discuss the potential build in Bulverde Tx further in the near future. Did you ever consider franchising your construction techniques outside of just Austin IE Builders can become Risinger Build certified? This is all great, but if you want to change the world, and have builders and homeowners have more efficient homes, maybe you should consider a new business venture getting your techniques out to the masses besides social media? 🇺🇸

  • @Tony-nl6pf
    @Tony-nl6pf 3 роки тому +19

    This guys house is made with a thousand different products, whichever one will sponsor him that day hahaha

    • @jeremypmerrill
      @jeremypmerrill 3 роки тому +12

      Your house is made with a thousand different products too, he just paid less than you (and his house is WAY better built).

    • @christhomas953
      @christhomas953 3 роки тому +11

      Jealousy is a useless emotion. Whether he gets products for free, or at cost does it matter. He is taking the time to educate the public through his own hands on experience.

    • @Tony-nl6pf
      @Tony-nl6pf 3 роки тому

      @@christhomas953 Then stop being jealous, what do you want me to do about it. Move on kid. Truth upset you that bad?

    • @alexlewis8143
      @alexlewis8143 3 роки тому

      I like his honesty he's honest about his sponsorships and encourages you to do your own research.

    • @Tony-nl6pf
      @Tony-nl6pf 3 роки тому

      @@alexlewis8143 Legally he has to. A few videos back he was sponsored by a company that clearly isn't the best and is the cheap way to do it and the comments were full of people calling him a sellout. Just found it funny his garage door is sponsored

  • @bsmbB
    @bsmbB 3 роки тому

    @5:54
    It's hard to resist the forces on the pull out

  • @bruceking440
    @bruceking440 Рік тому

    Not to be critical of a good video but this is important. They left off the bottom brace on that door. Also all those braces look exactly like my doors which have no wind rating sticker on them. 1999 yr. Wayne Dalton 9005-5

  • @SLNason
    @SLNason 3 роки тому +1

    I a wonder you didnt mention the R value. Your windows have to meet similar performance ratings.

    • @shredmonster76
      @shredmonster76 3 роки тому

      the R-Value on this door is 12.7 for 1 3/8'" or 17.9 for 2". The glass panels would have to be 1/2 dual glaze to have an R-Value of about 2.5. Depending on glass options this can be very expensive.

    • @MichaelM-to4sg
      @MichaelM-to4sg 3 роки тому

      @@shredmonster76 That garage door in video is R-0, it is not insulated

  • @GunnarsGames
    @GunnarsGames 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone in central Florida you recommend to build a custom home?

    • @mr.g937
      @mr.g937 3 роки тому

      You got money?

    • @davidsquall351
      @davidsquall351 3 роки тому

      dont answer that

    • @Adesico87
      @Adesico87 3 роки тому

      Ask your local lumber yard, realtors etc etc

  • @dolamyte
    @dolamyte 3 роки тому +7

    My house is so leaky I don't have to worry about wind ratings. Problem solved~

  • @jamesmoon1841
    @jamesmoon1841 3 роки тому +3

    Garage doors are the weakest link in any house with an attached garage. Old school free standing unattached garages provide a big advantage in the houses ability to survive a major wind event.

  • @michaelshettig7805
    @michaelshettig7805 3 роки тому

    Very well done, informative. I'll look into this on my design-build house I have in east Texas coming up. If anyone is interested, on my UA-cam channel, I have done a video in where I talk about the structural design of your house, entitled "Is your House hurricane and wind Proof?" Somewhat similar to Matt's. I cover the whole house.

  • @neverknow69
    @neverknow69 3 роки тому

    Three letters.. ICF

  • @MichaelM-to4sg
    @MichaelM-to4sg 3 роки тому

    I thought you were building this house passive certified, or as close as feasible, no? If so, why a non-insulated steel door, especially in a built-in garage situation? First time you’ve really surprised me with a building material choice, in your personal residence no-less.

    • @XS69
      @XS69 3 роки тому

      The garage isn't part of the enveloped living space. And you absolutely want to avoid it to become part of it because of the exhaust of the cars.

    • @kevins9576
      @kevins9576 3 роки тому

      This door is insulated. Steel interior and exterior skins with insulation between the two. Depending on section thickness, I would guess this to be around r18 with thermal wind breaks between each section of the door.

  • @OtterBeSwimming
    @OtterBeSwimming 3 роки тому +1

    Good video, but poor references. Finding the same information you show isn't easy to fine, especially for the DASMA site. Also you don't explain the difference between IBC codes and why DASMA has the different codes, people need to use the code that is currently in use in their area (they should know this but many don't).

  • @6stringsandapick
    @6stringsandapick 3 роки тому +1

    Bet it still can't hold up to one of the kids driving into it!

  • @nw6gmp
    @nw6gmp 3 роки тому

    someone needs a gimbal.. or is it too windy in your garage? 🤣🤣

  • @jonmiguel
    @jonmiguel 3 роки тому +1

    Florida coastal building standards should be the standard EVERYWHERE but especially regarding the garage doors. Atypical wind events can happen anywhere and why take the risk?

  • @dannk9683
    @dannk9683 3 роки тому

    The hinge on his left our right for half the video is super crooked

  • @AndyFromm
    @AndyFromm 3 роки тому

    Red screws = summer teeth 😬

  • @janderson8401
    @janderson8401 3 роки тому

    The red screws seem like a good idea, at least until they get covered with dirt or someone decides to paint over them. Meanwhile there are overhead doors out there that old enough to never had had red screws or warning labels. It’s probably best to just warn homeowners that no matter how handy they are they should leave garage door problems to the pros.

  • @arsenicjones9125
    @arsenicjones9125 3 роки тому

    The door can only be pushed. Pushed in or pushed out. There is no pull. Either the high pressure outside pushes the door in or the high pressure inside pushes the door out.

  • @theprofessorfate6184
    @theprofessorfate6184 3 роки тому

    Strong enough for what, Xray vision?

  • @MurrayInman
    @MurrayInman 3 роки тому

    Ugh. Please give the photographer a steadycam. The shaking gets to me.

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical 3 роки тому

    awesome. love my comment. woohoo

  • @valentinsimeonov
    @valentinsimeonov 3 роки тому

    or simply build a detached garage ...

  • @joelrampersad1359
    @joelrampersad1359 3 роки тому

    Thats why you dont build houses out of wood.

  •  3 роки тому +4

    Lets be honest - how much of your house has been sponsored and how much of it is built with your own knowledge, aware decissions and money? Im watching Your videos since beginning of 2020 and in my eyes You are losing credibility and becoming more and more not so silent advertiser for Your house sponsors. Please, prove me wrong. Cheers!

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 3 роки тому +1

      He gets his knowledge from sponsors and Google/UA-cam.
      Majority of what he talks about is straight from the manufacturers handbooks.

  • @dubious6718
    @dubious6718 3 роки тому +1

    Garage should be isolated from the house, for many reasons.
    There is no benefit with having garage connected to house.
    You can always build a roof between garage and house.

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 3 роки тому +4

      Benefit 1: I can walk through one door and be in my house
      Benefit 2: don’t care, 1 is enough when financials are close

    • @MichaelM-to4sg
      @MichaelM-to4sg 3 роки тому +1

      @@qwerty112311 Also, many lots are too small for detached garage

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 3 роки тому

      @@qwerty112311 The same way thieves get in.