Do you think it's feasible to run a stern and bow motor? I was thinking of adding the bow motor for the spot lock feature and keeping the stern motor for travel to spots.
Thanks Gene very informative! I’m thinking about getting a bona fide P127 because I want the ability to pedal and have motorized. Is the P1 27 as customizable as the power 129?
If you install the back motor NK300 , do you still foot control with a rudder? Let say I have NK300 in the back and MG up front, how do I foot control in this case?
If you install a stern motor all you need to do is disconnect the steering cables from the rudder and connect them to the motor and you are ready to go. Then just stow the rudder because your motor will be your rudder.
What if you run a 24v motor. one frt and other back. Waiting for mine to come in!!!!! What is set height floor to frt. of set? Thank you! Dealing with health get up to stand why asking. Have a 127 so hope a little taller.
The first one just need to be one that you can afford and one that you've tried out. Be friendly to other kayakers in your area and they will let you try them or check at your local paddleshop.
If you make it that wide it will slow it way down. This kayak is stable by design. Because of the Tri-hull design it is as stable as a 40+ inch kayak without the drag from a kayak that wide.
@@GeneJensen what does it run with the xi3 currently. My nucanoe unlimited does 4.5-4.8 loaded to the gills now. I like the unlimited but the Native/Bonafide plastic is 2nd to none and the nucanoe has left a little to be desired in the quest to save weight. Also does your GLS-10 box for your livescope have any heat issues in the apache box? Looking at options to make mine a stand alone deal as you have to travel.
Nice review. This boat has an ok price (at best) but over all this boat is a fail and a waste of money. No swivel seat =huge fail. No PDL = huge fail. Native Titan X is THE best fishing kayak, hands down, no contest, case closed. Yes, it's too expensive. Yes, it's very heavy. So is every other fishing kayak, might as well have all the best features and designed for literally everything you could ever want/need.
The titan X costs twice as much as this kayak and also weighs almost twice as much. They are targeting different market segments. If you are in the market for a pedal + powered kayak you shouldn't be looking at this one so that point of comparison doesn't make any sense.
Idk man, this has built in rudder system and foot steering stock. Look at Nucanoe and you can immediately see the value in this rig. Attached a mirror and a battery and go. I love this platform.
You’re comparing two kayaks built for different things. This is built to be motorized but is still easy to paddle. . You don’t need a swivel seat. I have one it’s great but not a necessity. The Titan X is a pedal kayak that can be motorized. It’s not meant to paddled.
Looks like a smart piece of kit, hope you enjoy it Gene 👍👍👍.
Nigel (Chicago)
I seen you in Atlanta today with two kayaks! I waved as you turned off of logans circle!
Do you think it's feasible to run a stern and bow motor? I was thinking of adding the bow motor for the spot lock feature and keeping the stern motor for travel to spots.
It wasn’t designed to run two motors but I’m sure it can do it.
Looks nice and that price is pretty damn legit.
Thanks Gene very informative! I’m thinking about getting a bona fide P127 because I want the ability to pedal and have motorized. Is the P1 27 as customizable as the power 129?
Nope. Those pedals get in the way of a lot of things and the boat doesn’t do well with a bow mounted motor but it’s fine with a stern motor
Looks like a heck of a kayak!
Can't wait.
Looks awesome! How about the Leverage Landing Net or any net. Is there a specific place designed for the net storage in this boat?
Nope. Everyone puts it in different places
Hope to see ya at some hobie bos or bass master kayak series
Your words make some sense. Thank you.
Good stuff ! Is that camo paint or actual color of the plastic, probably a stupid question?
If you install the back motor NK300 , do you still foot control with a rudder? Let say I have NK300 in the back and MG up front, how do I foot control in this case?
If you install a stern motor all you need to do is disconnect the steering cables from the rudder and connect them to the motor and you are ready to go. Then just stow the rudder because your motor will be your rudder.
Hey bud , what switch panel is that you are using ? Looks pretty trick!!!
It’s a switch panel made by Auxbeam.
Hey Jean, does the lid for the power fit the SS 127?
Hows the stability compared to the SS127? Stoked to get mine next month!
Very noticeably better
Sorry Gene, BUT GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if you run a 24v motor. one frt and other back. Waiting for mine to come in!!!!! What is set height floor to frt. of set? Thank you! Dealing with health get up to stand why asking. Have a 127 so hope a little taller.
It’s a little taller. Maybe an inch or two. I’m waiting on the production boat to measure due to possible changes
Ok thank you
Nice kayak I am looking to get a kayak but can't afford a high dollar kayak which one would suggest
The first one just need to be one that you can afford and one that you've tried out. Be friendly to other kayakers in your area and they will let you try them or check at your local paddleshop.
What kind of kayak trailer is that?
It's an On The Water Innovations trailer
Yeah. I like to know also!
Ok.... Real world top speed with the Xi3 motor?
6mph
I wish they would make this in a 40-42 inch wide version I would be first in line.
If you make it that wide it will slow it way down. This kayak is stable by design. Because of the Tri-hull design it is as stable as a 40+ inch kayak without the drag from a kayak that wide.
@@GeneJensen what does it run with the xi3 currently. My nucanoe unlimited does 4.5-4.8 loaded to the gills now. I like the unlimited but the Native/Bonafide plastic is 2nd to none and the nucanoe has left a little to be desired in the quest to save weight. Also does your GLS-10 box for your livescope have any heat issues in the apache box? Looking at options to make mine a stand alone deal as you have to travel.
Do you know if they will have a peddle-drive system for it even though it is meant to be motorized?
But I’m the damned paterfamilias.
Nice review.
This boat has an ok price (at best) but over all this boat is a fail and a waste of money.
No swivel seat =huge fail.
No PDL = huge fail.
Native Titan X is THE best fishing kayak, hands down, no contest, case closed.
Yes, it's too expensive.
Yes, it's very heavy.
So is every other fishing kayak, might as well have all the best features and designed for literally everything you could ever want/need.
The titan X costs twice as much as this kayak and also weighs almost twice as much. They are targeting different market segments. If you are in the market for a pedal + powered kayak you shouldn't be looking at this one so that point of comparison doesn't make any sense.
Idk man, this has built in rudder system and foot steering stock. Look at Nucanoe and you can immediately see the value in this rig. Attached a mirror and a battery and go. I love this platform.
You’re comparing two kayaks built for different things. This is built to be motorized but is still easy to paddle. . You don’t need a swivel seat. I have one it’s great but not a necessity. The Titan X is a pedal kayak that can be motorized. It’s not meant to paddled.