Dermatologist’s Take on Mielle Rosemary Oil vs Minoxidil for Hair Loss
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The issue is not Rosemary versus minoxidil. The issue is that Mielle changed their formulation once they were bought out and that’s when people start reporting their hair falling out
Or yall using it wrong and blaming the company
@@Crissy991How can you use a hair oil wrong?? 🤔 You literally just apply it to your scalp, so I doubt that everyone is lying on Mielle
You thought you ate lol @@Crissy991
@@Crissy991 no, please do your research. They literally changed the ingredients once she sold her product to the higher ups
Most black people stop using products once we see P&G. It is no longer for us.
Look at all those ingredients in that Rosemary oil. I just make Rosemary spritz at home. Just rosemary and water. No issues.
I do the same, I grow my own rosemary just to keep it on hand. No issues here, only healthy hair growth💕
When you actually go through it, it's mostly different types of oils or extracts. More likely it's a bottle full of soybean oil than anything truly dangerous.
I do the same thing.
Me too
I don't mess with diy but as long as you know what you're doing it can be beneficial. It makes a lot of sense for something that has like 20 ingredients to clog the scalp and cause hair loss. The scalp needs to breathe and all those oils combined are probably comedogenic
If you want to go the natural route then make your own rosemary oil from scratch.
That simple
It’s kinda expensive but yeah that’s what ima do plus a rosemary spray bottle
@daishamaxwell461 you can get fresh rosemary from the grocery store and do it yourself...cheaper 😊
@@daishamaxwell461- it's cheaper to make it yourself than buying it from the store. Get a bundle of fresh rosemary. Heat up olive oil or coconut oil in a pan with rosemary stems in there. Let it cool. Remove rosemary stems. U don't even have to buy a spray bottle. Save money and put it in plastic baggie, jar, etc.
@@daishamaxwell461I buy fresh rosemary for $1.99 at the grocery store. It’s much cheaper to make your own
Thank you for pointing out that there has been a change in ownership because this oil has been out for a while and just became popular due to tiktok. It’s not always been like this. I am 100% certain they are lying about all the ingredients and the owner needs to sue or hire an investigator.
True. Mielle was good when it was Black Owned. Once sold the ingredients changed.
They probably kept the recipe the same but swapped out for cheaper and more low grade/ unsafe ingredients. Potentially different and careless suppliers of those ingredients too. Cheap ingredients are cheap for a reason.
Seems like all reputable brands are riding dirty these days. What's up with that?
I thought rosemary oil was sold as an essential oil with 1 single ingredient and you can mix with a carrier oil and apply. That's what i do and my hair grows. Ijs.
Dito 🎉🎉
That’s one formula. Some people make it by simmering the rosemary plant in the carrier oil and storing it for a period of time. This is a blend though. It’s rosemary mint. And since it’s commercial, they’ve probably added other ingredients to increase the shelf life, etc. Different strokes for different folks.
Same here
It's not the rosemary oil it's their product. Don't put that negative spin on that natural herb. Because you can go to the grocery store and buy rosemary and make your own and your hair not gonna fall out
Yeah, but rosemary oil for hair growth isn’t totally proven by science yet. A few small studies look promising-it’s been shown to help with thickness and even compares to minoxidil for some people. It’s thought to improve blood flow to the scalp and reduce irritation, but we still need more solid research to really confirm how well it works and for whom.
@mags2847 I hope you don't think the everything on the shelves in-store is scientifically proven to work. Not even in pharmaceuticals is everything scientifically proven to work. They find that 1 thing that may have 30% efficacy and you'll have 100 side effects. Not everything is for everyone.
@@tracieroy9044 of course not! all I'm saying is that rosemary isn't an holy grail like people claim it to be. Something like minoxidil or ketoconazole, for example, has more robust scientific backing for certain hair concerns. So, while rosemary might offer some benefits, it’s good to keep realistic expectations and consider options that are more extensively researched.
That Mielle has tons more ingredients in it than rosemary oil.
They've changed the formula since ownership changed. Both my daughter and I lost a lot of hair, only to find out that there was a change in ownership and formula.
I lost 2 handfuls every wash day and the oil made my scalp drier so I threw them away and started using new shampoo and conditioner but I make my own leave in butter
My Mom's and my hair fell out in literal clumps during a few wash and styling sessions . I used the entire green label line shampoo, conditioner, deep conditioner & oil of the whole rosemary line. I switched to african blacksoap and the Camille line. In the last two wash cycles, the difference is night and day. This many folks giving testimony about the same thing is beyond concerning.
Lab Muffin has done two recent videos breaking down the rosemary hair oil study including commentary from a couple derms who also agree that study has misled folks. Michelle also points out that folks don't always read studies thoroughly and can miss important parts of studies.
You’re AWESOME for coming out on this.
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I have used the 2 percent formula after a very serious traction alopecia incident. The stylist was high on Percocet pills and my hair felt like pins and needles were sticking into my scalp. The dermatologist told me if the Rogaine didn’t work, there wasn’t any hope. I’m so grateful to God for my healthy hair returning. 😊
Stopped using their products once ownership changed. They say formulation didn’t change but it did to fit the needs of new consumers..
It’s better to make your own rosemary oil or rosemary water anyway.
I'm so glad you showed this, because I was thinking about trying this, because over the past 2 and half years I've lost hair while caring for my Mother, 24/7, who had Alzheimers. She just passed 11 days ago and I want to use something to help boost regrowth. Now I'll definitely NOT use that Mielle stuff.
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!
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Anything with rosemary essential oil or biotin has made my hair loss worst. Caffeine shampoos has helped.
I knew it ! As soon as she said she sold her business to them folks, I stopped using her products because I knew them folks were going to change the formula. They lying say they didn’t!!
Is she the one that was on social media crying about somebody wanting to buy her products or take over her products and she was against it
I really didn't understand why people used to love this. My scalp used to get so itchy after use. Thanks, I feel heard
Same! I thought the itching meant it was working, invigorating my scalp to promote hair growth etc...until my hair started coming out.
Because once again for the 56677600003020202th time. They sold themselves out, changed the product, and now black womens hair are falling out and suddenly white women with cancer are using it. Use your dome for once 😂
Maybe an allergy to an ingredient in the oil
@@whyask9864Exactly, the oil is full of potential allergens and known irritants. As much as I love the fresh scent and feel of peppermint and eucalyptus I avoid them in any skincare routine. The scalp is no exception. If it's plant derived it's usually a risk.
I still use my Mielle products as usual and no hair lost outside the norm.. but I will discontinue use once my products are finished.
I stopped using the oil but still use the shampoo and conditioner with no problem
Hey doc, I’ll give my two cents on this one. This is a clear example of how we shouldn’t go for anything and everything when it comes to trending products on social media. I fell for the hype of this mielle oil and used it as a scalp treatment pre shampoo. I absolutely hated it. I got seborreic dermatitis after this; just felt like it completely disturbed my scalp’s skin barrier if that’s such a term (I know for the face it is) any how. I stopped using it and used nizoral shampoo to treat my scalp’s condition. Now my scalp is back to being happy ❤
Everything! Is what happened to me and what I did too
I will also like to point out that the entire lines mainly the rosemary oil contains 30+ essential oils that many people scalp can’t handle, I don’t know why nobody pointed it out ☹️ .
This oil saved my hair in 2020 after I had really bad postpartum hair loss. She basically sold herself out by changing the formula once it went super viral.
Yes ma'am I had to stop using this product 😢 Every since my hair has been flourishing.
Definitely change of company
They definitely changed their ingredients. One thing about things that are created specifically for black hair hair and black hair needs is what the original owner sells it. It is never the same again.
But i heard the second you stop using Minoxidil all the new hairs will shed and you'll have the same amount you had before starting using it... i don't want to be dependent on it 😔
Also he mentioned not to use the 5% if pregnant. Does this mean stopping it altogether? This would mean you lose any of the hairs you have regained.
Tried minoxidil after my dermatologist recommended it …horrible experience using it
It burned and you have to use it so much
It gets costly over time as you have to use it for the rest of your life and my scalp was dry and itchy I don’t know why they recommend this to be honest
Mielle was good (the original) but now I believe they changed the formula sadly
Also…no one has mentioned how it can cause facial hair growth! That’s why I don’t use it.
@@hbelle3997They recommend it because it is the only thing scientifically proven to work, but that doesn't mean it will not cause side effects. The ones you described are not uncommon, and people often prefer the oral form for those reasons.
Anything you use to increase the growth of your hair will cause dependency. There is not much data backing the use of rosemary oil or water for hair growth however even IF those were effective, you would still have to use it forever to maintain results 🤷🏾♀️
A black lady owned it at first & then when a white man bought it i immediately stop using it..Just like Cantu African Pride & Shea Moisture....I no longer use any of those it contains alcohol and drying ingredients now.....I no longer use Braggs Apple Cider vinegar with the mother because a popular brand bought them out (I use to make my deep conditioner mask with Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar) but i found another brand that ik is safe & haven't sold out are changed
I’ve heard this a lot about mielle and also Carols daughter.
When I had found out about this,I switched to a different brand that has rosemary mint oil in combination with castor oil.
Do you mind sharing the brand?
What is the brand you’re using now?
I use Mielles honey and pomegranate line and I very much like it. Everything aint for everybody, I've bought a few different lines of products and not all of them agree with my hair. Shea moisture has an amla bond repair line that makes my hair feel awful!
Natural is always better
Ive lost my hair the exact same way as these other ladies. When mielle 1st released my hair was perfect! I stopped using those products almost 2 years ago and my hair is slowly but surely growing back. My edges, middle and my nape are my worst areas. Ive been now using Shea moisturizer low porosity shampoo/conditioner and use coconut oil as a hot oil treatment that works wonders for me.
My mom buys rosemary essential oil and mixes it with jojoba oil in a roll on thing and I put it where I want, works great
I've been using this about twice a month, hoping it would help my dry scalp in the winter. Now my head itches all the time, and it feels like i have a couple of tiny sores under my hair. Call me silly, but i didn't connect the dots until i watched this! Stopping use now to see if it helps!
That was me 2 months ago😢
You are using too much oil in your hair. Using it once a week is sufficient, as excessive hair products can cause issues like that.
But why is MIELLE still on the store shelves though?!😮😮😮😮😮😮
I use the pomegranate and honey line with no issues at all.
Hi dr Daniel! Thank you for your advices. Please can you clear for me tow information about Minoxidil:
- should we use minoxidil every night?
- once the hair regrowth can we stop using it? Or should we use it for ever?
I take Minoxidil daily and once you start using it (I take an oral pill daily) you must take it for the rest of your life. If you stop taking it, the hair that grew as a result of the medication could fall out. I’ve been taking it for a year and can tell you my hair has grown substantially. I am a AA woman and can’t use the OTC spray. Good luck!
I had waist length hair before I used this product and my hair broke off, got bald spots and my scalp was very itchy. It took me 8 months to grow out and cut out all the damaged hair so I can focus on my hair growth journey again so I can get my waist length hair back.
Since then I started making my own organic hair growth oil that focuses on scalp health and repairs damaged hair so encourage other hair growth journey as well.
You got to use whatever works for you .. get familiar with the texture of you hair the dryness the shampoo and conditioner that works for your hair type the oil try some simple oil like carrot oil something with vitamin a & e . It may take a few tries to get it right but trust the process.. I take a vitamin for hair skin and nails I never looked back my hair is healthy and just past the shoulder.. I haven’t had this length since high school I’m almost 40 now . ❤
Omg! So glad someone else feels my pain. This MIELLE & NATURE SPELLS Rosemary oil destroyed my hair for the past 2 years. My hair started falling out when I comb it unnecessarily, unlike prior with hardly any breakage; I mean HARDLY any fall out at all. 😢
Yeh, I think it's high time people stop using it since the formula has changed. Unfortunately I only started using it then....
Pshhh i got some rosemary mint oil for my hair from Temu and it did my hair wondersssss ❤ chaged it all up for the better..i almost bought the mielle at Walgreens first but didn't thank God.
Is minoxicil good for women, and will your hair fall out if you stop using it?
Thank you thank you!!!!
My 15 yr old has been loosing hair like CRAZY the past 2 mths Took to dermatologist, PCP
She uses this CRAP! No more
So sick of these tick tok suggestions!
I love how your explanations are so clear! Thank you for sharing with us
It's that brand period
Best explanation for why this may happen
… Difficult matter… sensitive issue. Thank you, Dr Daniel S. for the educational advice.
I stopped using their products, after noticing lots of shedding (in the shower). Once I stopped using their products, the shedding stopped.
My hair fell out in clumps with Mielle. Never again.
I use rosemary because im allergic to minoxidil. I also have been using nutrafol and it works!
Rosemary oil has done wonders got my hair.. it's thick again and growing after my big chop..my hair breaks from all my meds and lupus.. Batana oil is amazing..and kukui nut oil.
Ive been using the leave in conditioner for 6 months and it has not took my hair out. Thats the only product i use from that line. Had no issues so far. 😅
What are your thoughts on Cecred ingredients? It works well on my 4C hair.
Does this mean not to use mielle rosemary mint oil? What's wrong?

How do you feel about oral minoxidil instead of the scalp version
Maleka naturals hair growth oil is saving my hair, I had a big balding area at the top of my head starting from the middle of my hearline it’s been nearly 10 years and NOTHING worked, I tried my aunties brand and I’ve never been so happy to have tufts of hair!
I noticed a change in my hair with mielle oil like my hair was falling a little bit and felt gross so I went back to curls oil or Camille rose oil it went back to normal. Rinse with apple cider vinegar and baking soda better off ordering batana oil.
Yes it’s true broke my hair off just like theirs. It’s not made for your hair. I think natures shaving cream or something. It’s really good at breaking off hair.
1. Go to Vitamin Shoppe
2. Purchase Rosemary essential oil
3. Purchase carrier oil (olive, almond, jajoba, grapeseed, etc.) to combine with
4. Mix 1 part essential oil, 3 parts carrier in glass bottle..shake well
5. Store in cool place
6. Use at least twice weekly (on clean hair)
7. Massage for 15 min.
8. Wash hair and clean scalp bi-weekly
9. Repeat steps 5-9
You're welcome!
Really don't need all of those products. Try only water and protective styles. Products irritate the entire body not just the scalp. Our bodies produce enough oils even on the scalp.❤
Omg 😧 I just started using this same product! I thought it looked like the perfect hair oil 😢😢😢 I used it 3 times so far but NO MORE! So glad I saw this
Yes I did about 5 washes so far. The last 2 washes my hair came out in clumps. Today I stumble upon this video. I'm so glad I seen this. Im completely done with this line and will be returning the unused products back to walmart.
@tye8443 damnnnnn. Okay yea. I'm definitely done
I bought that oil a few months ago and it said to use it everyday. I used it every 2 weeks or so. I use black castor oil. I use this on the b/f’s already bald head.
If it’s not black owned or 100% natural and organic, I don’t put it in my hair. I don’t expect people who see us as a cash cow to have an interest in protecting our health. So once I found out Mielle was sold, I stopped purchasing their products.
I could be wrong, but if I'm not mistaken with Minoxidil (and whatever other names it goes by), if you stop using it your hair reverts back to the state it was in before you started using it--so that would mean it's reverting back to the balding and/or thinning that you were trying to stop in the first place.
So make sure before you commit to it you will always be able to buy it/ afford it and keep up with using it.
You are correct. This happened to my mom and it was really really bad.
@Crystal_curls85
Oh no! I hope she's doing better now!
It depends on type of hair loss, if you have chronic telogen effluvium due to nutritional deficiencies, you can leave minoxidil once you get desired results. If you have androgenic alopecia, it's risky leaving but you can add a dht blocker and reduce minoxidil slowly with time than abruptly leaving. Minoxidil is a vasodilator, increases blood circulation and makes supply of nutrients and oxygen available more to follicles. So when you leave minoxidil, this process of increased circulation is stopped, hence your hair goes back to same state as it was exactly when you started minoxidil. It's like doing exercise to lose weight, once you stop exercising, all weight you lost, you won't gain immediately but you will gain with time
@@TapaswiniSwain
I never knew that hair loss remedies and how to use them have different effects depending on what's causing the hair loss in the first place.
Thank you for the information! 😊
Like minoxidil, once you use it do you have to continue using it or the hair reverts or sheds? 🤔
I use rosemary mixed with coconut & castor. Hair grows like weeds
If your hair isn’t growing as fast as you want it to focus on caring for your lengths and learning all the ways you can prevent breakage. Unless you have a medical condition preventing hair growth or causing hair loss you don’t need to focus on trying to get your hair to grow faster it’s because your hair is breaking off at the ends.
Get a solid shampoo and conditioner for your hair type. Leave a little conditioner in the ends don’t rinse it all out. Mask every so often. Use a leave-in conditioner spray product then detangle very gently working ends to roots. Make sure you use proper heat protectant with the right technique. Blow dry cream for blow drying. Heat spray for irons. Oil as your last step. And no your oil doesn’t protect from heat damage oil will make the damage worse.
On top of this.. if you rub your towel all over your head to dry it stop. Press the towel into your head! Don’t rub. Or use an old tshirt for even more damage prevention.
Only cut the ends when you start to have a lot of tangling, minimum 6 months if you want to see growth. Your hair grows about a 1/2 inch per month so if you aren’t seeing that length every month you can probably make adjustments to your hair care routine to start seeing length!
Check out the blowout professor on UA-cam for more tips that channel is a hairstylist/salon owner specializing in hair care specifically to have healthy hair and gain length.
That really is a lot of oils. And a lot of oils that may cause irritation or that your particular skin or hair may not like. My hair hates coconut oil. If it's one of the top 5 ingredients, I'm in for a bad time. Same with keratin.
I've personally found that argan oil and a simple, short ingredient list works best for me.
There is so much mixed information out there with dermatologists on rosemary oil and it is very confusing. I understand that the Mielle oil has a plethora of natural ingredients that can potentially be inflammatory to the scalp on some, but what about Rosemary oil mixed with a carrier oil? I want more information on it. Because I feel these videos promote fear of using Rosemary oil without giving much information as to why, and not everyone has a bad reaction to Rosemary oil. It is very confusing.
Pure rosemary oil with a carrier oil (such as coconut or castor out for example ) will work I think he’s referring to the Mielle brand itself which has changed it’s formula
Just would never ever use minoxidil ever again live and learn I guess - I wish my dermatologist had never recommended it
Just use food grade oils and products to make stuff for you hair. I still buy shampoo. But shea butter and essential oil goes a long way.
I cut my rosemary bush, simmer no more than 20 mins., strain it, freeze the bulk of it in ice cube trays. I have a little brown glass spray bottle I keep it the fridge and replenish with the frozen. I have had a lot of fallout my whole life. When I used it 1-2 times a week , I had the most growth I've ever had in my life. Grew it 5 inches beyond what I could normally. My hair almost completely stopped shedding.
This is true I used it that product and I have natural curly hair and yes, it makes your hair thin and your hair falls out. I stop using it over two years ago garbage.
Didn’t you make a video a while ago showing your love for Mielle as a hair loss treatment? It’s where you collabed with Doctorly and someone else. Hmm
Some people just have problems with the health of their scalp and adding oils just suffocates the follicle probably making an already existing issue, worse. Figure out the health of the scalp before using any of this stuff.
I’ve been using the oil in this video and I have never had these issues it’s making my hair grow and retain the length. Idk what you guys are doing to get this reaction
I was about to buy that oil but decided to just put fresh rosemary in my amla oil. It works.
Rosemary makes my shedding so much worse! A methylated B-complex helped me. I have an MTHFR variant so I can only use methylated B's.
I been telling people read the ingredients when I looked at the ingredients an did research on them they are all inorganic materials AKA chemicals also go look at who owns the brand too
Using too many hair products can lead to hair loss. It's not good to apply excessive oil to your scalp daily. FYI just letting you all know.
That's what I think happened. They used too much of the product
Everyone’s hair is different. I oil my daughter’s hair and scalp every single day and her hair grows like crazy. It’s very healthy. I oil my own every two to three days. It depends on where you live and the climate that you’re used to also. The product is just not that great.
Awesome…I just bought the leave in conditioner 🤦🏻♀️
I have bald spots from using their(mell’s) products started falling out when I was using their products I stopped and it stopped falling now I have to try to regrown my hair :( rosemary oil been helping me tho
I think oiling the scalp too much can cause hair loss too, it did for me
I make my own. I take dry rosemary, fill a mason jar with it then add avocado oil to the top. Put it in a closet for a month then strain it. Set it on a towel, sometimes it leaks a bit.
Mielle took both my and my son's hair out in clumps. Will never use again.
I still see mielle on the shelves, is the sad part. Everyone isn’t lying about that brand making their hair fall out.
There are great hair oil recipes online.
Mielle switched their formulas and now I have a scalp itch that comes for weeks and doesnt go away for the past 2 years
The same with Cantu, when they first came out I love the product I loved how I worked on my 4C hair. Then they switched ownership and the last time I used it, it made my hair extremely hard to detangle and I got more slippage just using plain water compared to the new and improved Cantu smh
Wow Cantù has always been trash in my opinion. I used it in 2015 bought from Walmart, I noticed they rebranded it in recent years but nothing will replace my first impression of that ish .
@EYEGotchUBAN23 it was actually pretty good back in the day and it worked like magic in my 4C hair, now it's trash. When I tell you how badly tangled my hair was after I used it for the last time smh, I had to use water in a pinch to detangle my hair
So I can’t use their products anymore? 😭😭😭any alternatives?
I was using Mielle for YEARS & suggesting clients use that oil if they can't get oil from me. But after the ownership change I have taken it off of my safe products list. Also I'm a loctician so if my clients hair fall out, its loc by loc. No ma'am, no sir I CANNOT recommend these products anymore.
idk i had a friend who just did rice water soaks and stimulated her scalp . her hair looked amazing after like a year
Mielle irritates my scalp terribly. I don’t get the hype. Every time I’ve tried to restart using it, I suffer with the most itch and irritation of my scalp for about 2 to 3 months. Additionally, my scalp would get very sensitive with a little burning. It only happens after I use Mielle; it doesn’t happen any other time, which made me realize it must be this product line. After 3 attempts, I have determined that the product is not for me.
I been having that product for 2 years but never used it because I didn't trust it. Thank god I listen to my vibrations.
I use it, and my hair is growing
Another reason to learn to make your own. I swear you can buy fresh rosemary at the grocery store.
Ive seen rice water work amazing as well.
I have the oil and thought it was safe . My hair has thinned out , dry af and it itches sooo bad after a few days and gets mad dry . I thought it was maybe my water while in shower...but maybe this isn't good anymore . Sadly ill have to find something else .
This happened to my sons hair too. I threw it away immediately
Thank you for sharing such an amazing video🥰
Natural- rosemary needs to added with a carrier oil
3 weeks ago I used Minoxidil n it's been giving me headaches. I want to keep using it but I'm still having headaches 😢
Practically every hair product can cause hair loss you have to test ingredients and see what works for you because everyone is different I see so many products that have over 4.5 stars and people love it but some people get rashes or hair loss or acne etc.
She sold the company and usually the owners change the recipe. Best to use your own products. They use cheaper products ...
I Got This Shampoo And Conditioner...Makes My Head Very Itchy
Castor oil grows my hair long , thick and strong