Oklahoma: Land of Ponds and Homesteading
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When you look at maps of tornado tracks the least tornado-prone part of Oklahoma is the northwestern part and Ouachitas, not the east in general. There isn't a big difference between eastern OK and the center of the state when it comes to tornado activity. It's a myth that trees prevent tornadoes, tornadoes are caused by atmospheric forces and aren't impacted by vegetation. Mountains force warm air to cool off by dropping rain, which makes tornadoes less likely to appear (but increases thunderstorm activity). Northwestern OK doesn't see as many tornadoes because it is very dry and far away from water.
That being said, Oklahoma is the most tornado prone state in the country, and tornadoes can happen anywhere in the state.
YES! Tornadoes everywhere! Stay out of Oklahoma it isn’t safe!
It’s horrible here in Oklahoma. Don’t come here you’ll hate it. 😂😂😂
It’s so dusty n humid yet so dry and not favorable unless you’re acclimated
Better check your information on Southeast Oklahoma. It’s called Little Dixie for a reason and it’s very interesting culture and crime rate. Also avoid Mina Arkansas area for the same reason. Clinton country lots of people go missing. I’m in NE OK and we get tornadoes in the tree areas often. Especially this year.
Can you elaborate on the culture? I’m often in the those mountains hiking. I’m not from the area, so the culture is a bit foreign to me. What’s the theory on missing people in Mena?
@@Athomeinthemountainsthe culture is like the movie Deliverance. There are no theories. Google some info.
Lol. I’ve googled a ton. My grandpa was from Southeast Ok, but he’s passed away long before I moved nearby to this area, so I guess I’m going to have to keep figuring it out on my own.
@@AthomeinthemountainsLets see, is it all the missing woman, the men in the mountains who do crazy stuff like invite people over to castrate and eat their balls, or how meth has destroyed whole towns that you want to learn more about? My own town’s nick name is Meth-Alister. I won’t even drive to the far southeast part of the state anymore. Last time we went out there we did indeed start humming the tune from deliverance and really hoping this wasn’t how we were gonna die. Been all over the state. The nicest areas are north of Tulsa and down here I really like Atoka, nice people there.
@@farmyourbackyard2023You’re spot on with that. I thought New Orleans could get a little hairy, and I grew up just outside Washington DC listening to gang shootings on the weekends. Southeast Oklahoma is on another level. Can’t tell if the mental illness issues came first or the drugs.
Don’t come here it’s hot as hell in the summer, tornadoes take you out in the spring and fall. It’s not easy here. It’s harsh in many places here. Avoid us 😂
Not enough top soil for basements in most of OK. The Ouachita Mountains (OK/AR) are beautiful. Property is pricey around Broken Bow.
The topography: If you want a rabbit hole to jump down then check out some megaflood stuff... Younger dryass impact theory is pretty badass - at one point there was 20x more water - in the flood plains of washington - than in every river on earth COMBINED. Huge holes in granite were carved in weeks, megaliths were moved by water. oh, and that scene at the end of the movie where Steve Carrell builds an ark is a real event...! There's an actual strandline HIGH above ground level. If you want a very clear giveaway, have a look at river valleys - sometimes the valley, carved by the water, has 1000x more volume than the current amount of water. the Scablands outside of washington is insane...
Curtis these have been great. You should interview Joel Skousen. That would be a great interview.
Shhh brother u found us.. All the green circle sux u don't want to live there lol. Its nice and quite here finialy moved up to our property for junkie fort worth and will never move back. I can't believe u were close to were we are good job brother........
What's bad is that many Texas real estate agents have started sailing Oklahoma property. I wish people would stop coming here....
My homestead is for sale and I'm in the right areas, out of the no go & in the mountains of Leflore co.!😂
Thanks Curtis for you evaluation, I like seeing I have the right areas chosen and am in alignment with other like minded individuals.
We're looking to buy a homestead property. How many acres is it?
I am just south of you in Push CO. On 50 acres in the mountains
Stop lying. There ain’t no mountains in Oklahoma. It’s flat desolate land with tornados in your yard everyday. Let’s not forget the alligators, bears, and venomous snakes that visit your back deck every evening. Oh and it’s 150 here in the winter. Trust me you don’t want to move here.
@@DunnDifferent My grandparents lived all over the south half of the state, never far east or west. We used to visit them a lot; Okie weather is the armpit of the world: blast furnace heat, bonafide frozen lunatic winds, and that's not even getting to tornados and floods.
@themountainwizard Why selling?
i truly love living in ok..🦬
Wouldn't worry too much about Fort Smith... maybe only 30+ miles away is great, especially on the Oklahoma side... would recommend the Kiamachi Mountains area... used to have 5 acres there... low price land by national average standards... huge amount of rain, so you can catch all you need if you don't have a well. It's about as far away from woke you can get in the US... and southeast Oklahoma is well out of the T-Alley.
Cool winds from the NW meet moist SE winds up from the gulf waters. The NW dry line often clashes around Interstate 44 and then spawn tornadoes which travel NE clear up into the great lakes often times. The possible path is probably 100 miles wide. Often the path is from down around Moore clear into Joplin, Missouri, but they can come any month from any direction. May is the worst month. The weather here will keep you on your toes, and anyone who can afford it will have an underground shelter. The land of the F 5's and up to 300mph rotations, up to a mile wide that can stay on the ground for up to 30 plus miles!. Earthquakes, draught, floods, tornadoes, ice storms, wildfires, and up to 112 degrees in summer, 3 ft of snow occasionally with 20 degrees below zero at other times. We have it all! Oklahoma has extreme weather. Seriously.
We moved to Oklahoma 2 years ago from Florida. We're in one of the "green zones" and love our 25 acres.
Re: Tulsa.
Tulsa is built in a naturally occuring flood plain.
A suburb of Tulsa is Catoosa. Now, the Port of Catoosa. The Port of Catoosa is on the Verdigris River.
The problem people do not realize is that Levies have been built in the river.
They are drought levies.
Not flood levies.
What is the difference?
The difference is huge.
The drought levies built in the Verdigris river is to protect the water depth and keep the water depth at at least 9 feet deep. 9 feet of water is the minimum depth needed to float an ocean worthy barge from the Gulf of Mexico, up the Mississippi, and eventually get inland to the Port of Catoosa by Tulsa.
Those levies do a grand total of nothing to protect dry land from water.
They protect water depth, in the river, from the dry land (drought conditions).
You have zero, zilch, nada, nothing, to protect you from flooding.
If you look for land in the area Curtis mentioned, look for an elevation from sea level of at least 600 feet. 800 feet would be better.
The Port of catoosa is on the verdigris River it flows into the Arkansas River down near Muskogee Oklahoma .
I'm 45 minutes from Tulsa at 785ft. We are up a hill, so everyone else in the town down from us will be flooded, so I can second this.
@@justbe4481
I stand corrected.
Force of habit and lack of intelligence.
Outside of the Tulsa area we always hear Arkansas, Arkansas, Arkansas river.
And I live closer to the Illinois with its own flood problems.
@@abigail01441 the crazy thing is that the Arkansas River gets dammed up west of Tulsa for flood control it's the keystone dam the Arkansas River almost completely drys up to a point you can almost walk across it until it reaches were the verdigris River flows the only thing that keeps the river deep enough for tow boats in the locks and dams up and down the river there is something like 19 of them from catoosa down to the Mississippi
Minnesota next please!! I'm curious what your breakdown will be since I have lived all over the state.
Grew up in Guthrie. Mom had a backyard garden and fed us all year with it.
OK is risky with Tornadoes. I recall driving through Idabel day after one touched down there. However, it appears the tornado alley is moving eastward.
Have some familiarity with Oklahoma. Nailed it except that the loop around Fort Smith should be a lot smaller and the one around Tulsa should be a little smaller. You alluded to this as you were speaking and are correct. Squeezing into the area where MO AR OK meet is also great because you are easy driving distance to a lot of amenities between Tulsa, NW AR, and Joplin.
I live just outside of Slick, Ok Creek, Co. I love it. Great farmland for miles and miles. It's also in-between Tulsa and OKC. Also no building restrictions, and next to nothing as far as local government.
Is it out of tornado zone?
@@pamreynolds7334 It's right in it.
@@pamreynolds7334 You can search where all tornado tracks have been. It's ALL tornado alley!
Shhhhh…
Must love tornadoes.haha. I’m from Kansas originally so I can say that. But seriously. I went to a huge ranch in southern Oklahoma and it was one of the most beautiful ranch’s I’ve ever seen. With huge cliffs
I moved to Oklahoma from Georgia about 4 years ago and we love it
Did you multiply?
@@SimonHaestoe something like that lol we're pretty sure that I am
Shhhhhhh
Dude shut up. We don’t need anymore people.
how hard was it transitioning from a fairly reliable 4 inches of rain per month to ... whatever they have there?
50mi is an excessive radius for Tulsa, even OKC. You can be in very rural territory 20-25mi outside of Tulsa. And tornado risk is widespread, people who grew up in OK are not scared of tornados as being in/around one is actually very rare. Anything east of I-35 is fine for off grid.
I agree. The absolute max radius around OKC is 30 miles, in my opinion.
Shhhhhh
Can't wait for the Ontario episode!
Mission escape the poojeets
Please do Texas next! We live in Dallas right now but bought land on Lake Palestine, and I want to hear your recommendations
I own two acres
in Lindsay Oklahoma
I have family in Lindsay
I'm looking forward to an Ontario video!
Broken bow is expensive those green areas are prime real estate.
I'd like to see Missouri and Tennessee. Thank you for your channel!
You think those spots are out of tornado alley? Tornadoes constantly come through Pittsburg county, not to mention Tulsa County and everywhere in between. The storm start at the dry line, I35, and most of the record breaking tornadoes happen there, but we still get our fare share in the eastern part of the state because those storms come this way and continue churning out tornadoes.
And yah, Antlers is beautiful, but it’s also VERY high in snakes. And then you circle Idabel which is VERY close to all the huge vacation rental/Texas land grabbers. You do NOT want to homestead in that corner of the state. People that have lived there for generations are being driven out by the tourism. Pretty sure that other southeast circle you have is McAlester where I live. The problem with this area is that drilling has really damaged the natural aquifers, you’d want to carefully test any well, not to mention the largest US ammunition depot is here and they dispose of all the old bombs from across the nation here almost every work day by blowing them up in underground bunkers. If the SHTF, it’s gonna be a huge target. And the concussive forces from the bomb disposal will damage your home, cellars, and also contributes to ground water pollution. I have never met so many people with cancer and chronic illnesses as right here, and I’ve lived all over the US. Oh and if you don’t have allergies before moving here, you will get them. Also you won’t find many people with cattle anymore, used to be everywhere. But we get 5 year droughts and the last one a few years ago was so terrible people couldn’t get enough feed and cattle were dying in the field or being taken to slaughter early. A lot of ranchers got out of the business. And have you heard about the ice storms? They hit from the dry line on east but this area gets them the worst. It looks like a hurricane has hit by the time they’re over. Also the type of tree probably matters. A lot of what you were talking about in southeast Oklahoma is pine forest, big rolling foothills covered in pines… and did I mention the snakes? Lol. You couldn’t pay me to live further southeast than McAlester. Get on any gardening or homesteading Facebook group in Oklahoma and you’ll find out real fast, it’s no picnic. Homesteading never is but this state is ruff, and I haven’t even gone into the pest pressure. Even long time gardeners have started giving up. I’m hard headed and can’t move anyway, but in wouldn’t encourage homesteading in this state just for the water issues alone. Then there’s the heavy clay soil, another reason raising food is so hard. I have a friend with goats who is constantly battling parasites in her herds because the ground can’t dry out in our ‘mud’ season. If I absolutely had to pick a spot it would be the far northeast corner.
There is no such zone for a no tornado zone in Oklahoma.
Kansas neighbor only downside of the general oklahoma and kansas area is tornado alley.
Tornado alley had actually shifted east. Google “tornado alley 2024” and you can see the new map
Having blocked out areas of farmland doesn't mean much. In central Kansas their are miles blocked out that are all pasture land in a lot of places.
Yeah most of Fort Smith is technically Arkansas and outside of the main city is the perfect spot to live. 20-30 North East of FTS are some of the best homesteads for sale. 1.3M for 150 acres of a former horse/cattle ranch in an area I want to move close too. It's a bit over priced but I own a house in california about the same value. If only my family would agree tosell it and move out here. On the west side I have seen constant deals in oklahoma on your way into fort smith. Like typically under 10K per acre
Thanks for making these 🙏 would love some insights into north Carolina
I think a lot of evaluations are made of places like this, with all the power you need and able to run AC full blast, 6+ months of the year. Living offgrid with limited power would totally Suck! Jesse James and gang didn't even stay through the freezing cold winters. The Ozarks are one of the roughest places to live, outside of suburbia, snakes, ticks, poison everything, most people couldn't hack it with out all the modern conveniences. Lets see Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Idaho!
My husband got tick fever after we moved here. Hasn’t been the same since. Oklahoma is the closest to Hell I’ve ever lived. Beautiful sunsets though. But it’s always trying to kill you.
@@RustyBobbins the Ozarks in general are like you said, everything's trying to kill you.
Do your research before you move here and go look at the area before buying the roads are crap in the small counties and rural areas and unless you like off roading on asphalt you might want to rethink buying here
I'm interested in your thoughts on Georgia. I've lived near Augusta my whole life and I'm about to purchase 8 acres. I know I'll be inside of a red circle, but it's a fairly conservative county that I live in.
Looking forward to your review of Oregon and Idaho.
Please do Minnesota
Great video, I can't wait for Idaho
Minnesota next! I just moved away from there because of the 3 big C's. Corn, Cold and Commies.
I'm in Alaska, let's try that.
Those green zones and half the state is full of federal Marshalls since the McGirtt court ruling about Federal Indian Land and federal jurisdiction. I left Oklahoma due to the BS in building cost and codes. Plus the Okies aren't the friendliest.
Yep he’s right. Stay away from us Okies.
@Romans12_18 Can you give the TL:DR on this? I can't seem to find a summary of it that's not too deep in the weeds.
Pls do Kansas next!!
Remember the seismic zones around the NorthbAmerican craton
Too hot, too many tornados, and too much tribal land.
Virginia, West Virginia, and Colorado; the order doesn't matter, bossman.
I miss Virginia, and West Virginia is lovely too. Never been to Colorado but my Mother grew up there. Only bad thing she ever had to say about it was the cabin fever.
Can we do Virginia next?
I noticed you've covered most of the states around CA, but not CA. I wonder why 😂. I live in CA. It's so liberal and the land is so expensive.
Looked there but one thing I didn't like was it seemed the groundwater could be contaminated with oil. Also the politics is strange, like the old indian land could change jurisdictions or something.
The main thing for us is capped property tax and no homeschool laws. OK was high on our list except for those issues, the oil and indian land uncertainty.
So can I ask you something? What state did you end up going to?
Can you explain what you mean by changing jurisdictions?
@@tennesseeterri Michigan and Indiana seem like the best two choices. You don't have to register your kids with the state. MO is also but their property taxes are insane.
@@gardeninggalagain idk look it up I didn't read up on it much. But they might seize White people's land and give to Indians, or they might make Indians as the government and they'll rule over the Whites. I don't remember the details. Just between that and the oil in the water, meh, no thanks.
Colorado please!!!
Colorado pls. I have my ideas, but am curious about your thoughts.
If your in Oklahoma your in tornado alley. Live in the north eastern part of Oklahoma and we get them every year not to mention our in laws got hit hard by one this year and they are in north west Arkansas. This guy has obviously never been here and doesn’t understand how much the population drops right out side of Tulsa and OKC. He did get the north east part right but his idea of how our weather works is completely off
After that comment, you need to do New Mexico next lol.
North Carolina
I would love to see New Hampshire and Illinois
Do Wisconsin pls.
Please do videos on Wisconsin and Minnesota
When is Saskatchewan dropping?
Agreed! I also want to know about New Found land, but upper Northern Canadian Provinces I’m wondering aboot!
Utah!
The arid, dry areas .... I dont live in one!! ... BUT, the dry areas do have their virtues! E.g. many of those counties have ZERO ordinances!!
Piney woods area
What are the laws involved with owning land that is on an Indian reservation? Like am I under their jurisdiction?
Texas !!
Thanks ❤
I am on 50 acres in Nashoba. I love it.
South Eastern okla is not good for homesteaders. The hil billies don't take to outside people. It's bad enough law enforcement won't leave main byways since if they do the will not come back. Western half is far better for such things
Do not come….do not come.
😂😂😂
I’m gonna come
Nebraska. It's not for everyone.
I live in upstate New York and love spending time in the sand hills it’s such a Unique place❤
Alaska
Virginia next
Eastern half of Texas
KENTUCKY
My sis and brother in law live in SE OK : McAlester, Oklahoma. Well out of tornado alley. They bought 10 acres and have some animals and a garden and love it there. It's too hot for me as I live in Northern Wisconsin. I love the change of seasons and that we have natural springs popping up everywhere. Don't have to worry about our water coming from a state or 2 away like some. Also their drinking water comes out of the ground warm. Ours, ice cold.
I live in McAlester, you might want to tell the tornadoes they don’t belong here, I know I’d appreciate it!
Heads up. The groundwater is not only very contaminated but those aquifers are in danger of being extinct
France!!!
Run!!! Go to Hungary, Poland, or Portugal.
@@offgridcurtisstone Yeah, 30 years of permaculture, self-sufficiency and being out of debt. Great! Ho-hum, I'll stick it out here, got good neighbours....
Ontario
What a load of BS. That being said, don’t move to Oklahoma, especially if you’re from the east or west coast. We have good people here, don’t mess that up!
If you’re watching my channel, I assume you’re a good person. You could also assume it about people that might want to move there as well.
@@offgridcurtisstonegood or not. We don’t need people raising the real estate prices here like everywhere else.
@@DunnDifferent Do you think these comments are going to stop that? How many people do you think are reading these comments and coming to one conclusion or another based on this?
@@offgridcurtisstone relax bro. It’s a joke. Most people have their mind made up about Oklahoma to begin with (ie: why we didn’t get the influx of migrants like Texas and Tennessee the last four years. And if they did decide to move here I’d welcome them. The whole point of my comments is to point out how ridiculous it is for people to dismiss this state the way they do. I’d be happy to to sit a down with you and discuss this… publicly or privately either way.
Anyways. I’ve always enjoyed your content and respect the hustle. If you’d like a different outlook on Oklahoma I’d be happy to discuss it with you.
I live in oklahoma. It's ugly, hot, boring and windy. Dont move here 😂
OUT OF STATERS STAY OUT REEE
Michigan. I already know where not to go.
Bro okc is real… real rural