Steve Maxwell Vintage Drums - Cymbal Lathing Before And After!!
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2016
- In this video we have a very heavy A. Zildjian from the seventies with a before and after video. We took about 1000 grams off and what a difference! This cymbal will be listed on the website soon.
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Yes!!! The concept of modifying old cymbals takes another step forward. Great setup
Thanks Lance! Steve
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Not only a beautiful cymbal, but beautiful drums and beautiful playing as well
huge Improvement on that symbol you made it sound really good I'd buy it in a heartbeat
very impressive drumming! you have great sound
Niceeeeee!! I am going to build my lathe soon thank u!!
My 90's Chester Thompson signature ride is 4000 grams. It's .....heavy.
I have the same 20'' - sounds identical to yours pre lathe. I must say it's sounding great after your work - Just picked up a 40's 22'' Trans Stamp I'm enjoying right now.
That set is killer. Love the abalone/peacock snare.
Congratulations!
Sounds a whole lot better after the lathe not only that it looks brand new again it kind of reminds me of a crash ride on the A series
Wow - that's beautiful
Very cool!
May be worth a mention that newly lathed cymbals take a while to 'settle'. Apparently something to do with the way the metal mellows after machining? More of an atomic vibe . . . and yes, it really needs time for the cymbal to find its own unique sound.
Brilliant idea! Rid the world of heavy cymbals, please!
Nice playing, too BTW
great work.i think the bell sounds much better
My old 22" Deep Ride weighs 3,800 grams or so. I also want to modify it taking off 1,000 grams or more.
.....My all-time favorite ride
Save for an A. Zildjian 3136 gram, 50s Block Letter 26" ride I had, I think almost EVERY cymbal I have played could benefit from a substantial weight reduction!
What kind of lathe is that??
Great work I have a beautiful old Paiste 602 I would love to take some weight off. Do you work on others cymbals or just your own?
Hello Richard, we work on other cymbals, call us at the Illinois store and we can quote you a price.
i think it actually sound pretty good as is! As a lover of the scdr i think the problem for me is not just weight. For me a cymbal has to be dark. Great job on that one. I have one i will probably bring in sometime if u guys still do this
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What a great concept. How much does this usually run per cymbal?
Hello, usually $125, give us a call. Large discounts for multiple cymbals.
Great,will this be something offered to drummers in the New York store?? I think it'll be a great service you can offer drummers, bring in your old heavy cymbals and get a new lease on life! Also for those of us that can't afford the expensive new [or vintage] cymbals this is something that would help.Thanks again.
Hey Philip, not sure if we could ever offer this in NY. Just not enough room there. Send your cymbals no Illinois, and we can do them here. Just give us a call and we can set it up: 1-630-237-4997.
Hello Steve; I am glad that you are experimenting with instrumental sound influence. My Earth Tones Cymbals usually get polarized into two camps as well...the lovers and the haters. I hand make all of my offerings from stainless steel which by virtue of being a huge contrast in comparison to traditional bronze, is immediately suspect to conditioned drummers and percussionists. That is as it should be when one is pioneering into new artistic territory and I must say that I welcome all forms of criticism relative to my craft and techniques. It is not uncommon for me, as the creator, to experience and acknowledge my own triumphs and tragedies regarding the end product that is achieved in my own workshop. Ultimately however, I must concede that there is a place in somebody's arsenal, ie: sound spectrum for even darker, trashier and even seemingly "ugly" sounding cymbals. Sometimes a drummer needs a sound that is able to express pain, depression and confusion or any number of other voices of tension and stress. I generally aim for bright, lively, crisp and lively sounding cymbals but sometimes the hammer and resulting shape and tension of the cymbal will say otherwise. Wabi Sabi.
Yes, much nicer. Congrats!
it lost just a little bit of 'ping', but overall it still sounds better
Now that you have a lathe at the shop... Spizzichinos should lower in price! 😏
How high the moon!
Made it higher pitched due to reduced mass, I don't like that personally. You've essentially just upcycled a vintage cymbal into a new one. It's not exactly the same cymbal tonally anymore. It's not a bad approach though, I mean you did what you set out to do.
What track is playing during the lathing?
Hey, that is the Charlie Parker tune Ornithology played by my jazz group. Andy Schlinder on sax.
Also sounds like how high the moon sung by ella fitzgerald
Yep, the changes are the same.
Where in IL..??
Hello, we are at: 2000 Bloomingdale Road #110 Glendale Heights, Illinois 60139. Stop by and I will give you the tour. Open Friday and Saturday and other hours by appointment.
@2:04......what is the name of that beat?
That’s an African Groove known as a Nanigo (Nanny-Go) or a Bembe (Bim-Bay). Many westerners teach it as / call it an “Afro-Cuban 6/8” groove. IMO, Steve’s playing it in a more African influenced jazz style (which I prefer). But many people like to put a back beat in the groove 1/2 way through the groove (where I think I heard Steve hitting the high tom) which makes it sound more fusion-ie (aka Weckl) or even a little bit like a 1/2 time shuffle. I really love this groove. A lot of the African & Latin style grooves Steve plays there back to back are very much in the styles of Elvin Jones & Art Blakey. African and Latin grooves through the filter of jazz.
@@tuknchuk Thank you for such an in-depth explanation, kind friend!!!
How about buying a cymbal appropriate for the music?
That cymbal wasn't intended for that dry jazz sound.
It's like taking deeper Tom's and cutting them down.
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I agree! They are assuming that everyone wants a cymbal suited for jazz. Not everyone plays jazz or wants a thin cymbal, and by doing this they are basically ruining/ altering a vintage instrument that someone else might want in its original state. Aren't there enough new cymbals being produced that jazz players can get what they want new? Or... they could enjoy the search for an old, thin cymbal that sounds the way they like. This is just my opinion, and I guess they can do what they want as they own them. Opinions, like tastes in cymbals vary. I personally liked the bell sound better before he "fixed" it.
@@chrissimmons4822 ok boomer
@@chrissimmons4822 The low price of heavy 70s cymbals indicates that there are already enough of them and nobody wants them. If you think there's going to be a shortage, go ahead and buy some for $100 a piece and watch the price go up
For me! Is not a option!!! If you buy a cymbal, you can quest about the weight! And if the seller say to mi it have 20" and 2750g i buy it not!!! but if he sayed 20" 1923g i say yes thanks will buy it!!! Than i get an original cymbal with stamp and sound!!! But here i think it sounds like a heavy cymbal, sounds not good! You must think the process of the cymbalmade! The cymbal get his weight klass before lathering than it came thin to the hamer and after it will be lathering!!! And than it sounds goot!!! But here was a heavy cymbal that was hammered and with lethering alone you can not do make it like a lighter one becouse the process!!! This cymbal have the heavy tone! It sounds not like a lighter one that hear a drummer!!! Its not the same! Im from austria and know one thay do that and he sayed to me "you dount know what happens with the sound" you can make that but it will be have the character of a heavy cymbal and sound like a heavy and thin in one! Its not a good way, becouse the process that a cymbal need!!! That need it!!! You get with lathering not that what you want! That have say the man to me if i quest him about that. He sayed that you can gat a "good" cymbal or the same bell like before!!! ...buy thiner cymbals! Thats rhe right way for good sound. That is only a help for one who have a heavy one! But you get not the same like a thin cymbal!!! Its the complete process by cymbalmaking that you need!
Cymbals aren't like drums/guitars or bases. They are a unique instrument. Does re/making them not go against copyright as I know all Zildjians are stamped?
No. you're an idiot.
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The point of old cymbals is that they don't need modifying?
No. you're an idiot.
Much improved...still not great
Much better and sounds great. Get your ears checked.
That cymbal was made years ago with blood sweat and tears. Now some idiot remakes it? Are vintage drums going to be next?
ur either comment baiting or a dumbass
either way nobody cares about ur shit get off the web plz
darren 5803-- Nothing wrong with giving an unused cymbal a new life for it to be used rather than collecting dust. This concept is not new. Sabian has already pioneered this with their SR2 cymbal line, taking cracked, and traded-in cymbals and "recycling" them..
Seriously... fuck off loser.
Ok. Ill remake ur cymbals?