Born in Hackney but raised in Walthamstow until my family moved down to Kent in 1968. Went to Henry Maynard School, and remember the hoe st market, where all my toys was bought from stakeholder John's stalll.Remember too the lovely pie and mash shops in the Lea bridge road. Wonderful memories. Many thanks.
@@fallinbing7291 No! I was merely asking if "here" was any specific part of London or the southeast. I doubt they are coming to the northeast of England to make pie mash.
mark g sorry, couldn’t resist...”here” means East London, more specifically NE London. John Rogers’ walks tend to be round Leyton, Walthamstow and Hackney. Although not too many pie and mash shops around now.
Nice video. I like it, lots. I enjoy your peace And peaceful vibes and I enjoy the videos you do on East London and Essex walks as well. Take care. Very Best Wishes and Blessings for you to you.
My dad came from Barnet and when I was a child, growing up in Hove in East Sussex, he sometimes wished he could open up a pie and mash shop, with sawdust on the floor... He never did though, sadly! I'd forgotten that until you showed us Manze's, thanks for that wonderful triggered memory :-)
Lived in Walthamstow for six years so loved this video. Always admired the old telephone exchange too, the modernist masonry and blockwork detailing is lovely.
Here's to better days...the other side of this current lockdown. It is somehow nostalgic...yet was only six months ago. Thank for bringing in some sunshine into my day.
John Rogers! Oh my, you have been a wonderful find. I get to see parts of England that if I were 20 I would walk along with you! Being a Yankee, I am 74, I rather doubt I will get to your country, so going along with you is great. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
vmcougar in TN what a great comment! I have to say, I’ve lived in Hackney for 34 years and used to work in E17. I know the Marshes and beyond like the back of my hand, but John always brings something new to his view of this bit of London. Quite often I find myself watching a vid of somewhere I’ve been walking or cycling just a few hours or days previously, but there’s always something new to discover. Love it. But don’t forget, vmcougar, London is only one little bit of this land, and when I go back to my native Scotland, I’ll try to live up to John’s standards in terms of local history etc. Always welcome here!
@@fallinbing7291 I won't be doing any more traveling, at my age my body is beginning to suffer the ravages of gravity and time. My season for wanderings is past, now I watch others discover the delights that surround them.
I love running under the railway bridge at the bottom of Coppermill Lane. I remember 20 years ago you could still walk ACROSS the tracks through the gates above ...
Love everything you do. The music is very fitting, I'm so often turned off to perfectly good videos because of the overbearing accompaniment. Thankyou!
You always evoke a feeling of a dusty sunny evening , I don’t know where , however it’s a mixture of nostalgia , sadness , joy and bliss that I experienced it . Xxx thank you
Thanks for the walkabout i lived up lowhall lane 1939 lm still kicking at 88 in the USA such great memories I have only 1 mate left Ted Pope who was once guvnor of the Brewery tap
Thank you once again, John, for evoking childhood memories of being sent to the Market on Saturday afternoons to buy the cockles and brown bread for tea.
Oh the memories! Coppermill stream where those low rail bridges are was my magical place. Actually, it was the spot between those bridges , I used to get through the fence and shuffle along the very narrow bank of the Coppermill, then sit there all afternoon, watching the water and the fish swimming through, a truly beautiful place. This was in the early 1970's, and I should have been in school, but that spot was my "playing hooky" place, a place to dream.
Brought back memories of the two years spent there 1990 -92. So glad to see the street market and pie and mash shop again. Bought a watch down there which is still here on me. So much to see there so i missed Springfield Park which is certainly beautiful.
Thank you so much, moved 8 years ago,how things have changed, took me back to happy time when I was a child, lived in Leyton , worked in Walthamstow marketing pink sweet shop , happy days, kid used to love me
Great video John used to live in walthamstow in 1989 in a high rise tower block on essex road near the market, which is now demolished. Didnt visit half the things you show. Thanks for sharing this.
Bless you gov, a lovely walk, - I learn't to swim at Leyton Baths (now Tesco's and the Rolling Stones played there). Queued outside the ABC Leyton for 3 hours to see Grease in '78. Before the now defunct Poll Tax House, there used to be shops on Hoe Street bridge on the village side. These included a brilliant model/toy soldier shop (I was a member of the Airfix club), which was next to a Newsagent - they were owned by a mother & son, two of the most miserable people you could ever meet (in my childish eyes). Selbourne Park, where I spent a lot of time circa 1971-77 had, as the lady said, 2 bowling greens and a putting green. There was a disused hall behind the Library where my mother had her 21st birthday party in circa 1952, but Selbourne also the park had loos that were notorious (not as bad as the ones that were at the end of Wood Street). Where the Empire cinema and Turtle Bay etc is now there was once an Arcade of shops with flats above. Walthamstow had once apart from the majestic Small Wonder Records - two Dereks Records - one in the Arcade and one on Hoe Street which would have been about adjascent to McDonalds now. The Goose was the Goose & Granite, The Tower Hotel, & Flanagans (with a huge toby jug germanic head on the corner triangle). Happy days - Changing times changing landscapes
Really sorry to hear about Percy Ingles closing. Generations of my family used to use the one in the Narrow Way in Mare Street. When I lived in Chingford I used the two shops there. Real East London institution.
Long overdue visit to the market John. It has changed so much and yet, hasn't. It was my daily walk to work in the late 80's and early 90's. Probably bumped into you. The ghosts of future pasts indeed...
I went to the Leyton ABC cinema many times in the 70’s & 80’s it was a colossal size with an upper tier balcony. On the approach to Bakers arms where Tesco now is was Leyton swimming baths. There were 3 pools one of which was huge and had high diving boards with a 20ft deep end. You also could have an actual bath there in the men’s bathroom section which housed about 30 tubs!
Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. I was sure it used to be a SP there, but then I thought I was having some kind of false memory syndrome. Can remember being involved in moderately "unpleasant scenes" at a school basketball match there.
@@akali83 it’s the building you see in the opening clip (now Ladbrooks) although it may have been called Leyton Odeon just near Bakers Arms. There was also a Leytonstone Ritz near the Green Man where McDonalda now is
@@davidmcguiness8862 Ahhh Thanks! I've always only known it as the place that has the brilliant charity for the local disabled community -DIAL. Great shame that it's just a Ladbrooks now.
Hi John, thoroughly enjoyed the walk from the busy streets to the lovely park at the end. It is such a shame to hear and see how the green space is getting nibbled away...just awful! You pack so much into your walks the stories and history you tell are so much appreciated, thank you! Always feel like I'm going on a walk with a wonderful friend! 😊 Looking forward to where you will take us next! Take really good care, stay safe.
Your video's are great. I left the uk in 1988 so you take me back to my child hood. I'm from the Lloyds Park part of Walthamstow. We rode our little tracky bikes to many of the places you visit. Hollow ponds, messing about on the Ching. Down the river lea and many more. At 17 l was working at Wakefields fruit n veg shop at the Baker's arms. Great memories!
Great again John..every Saturday me nan took me to the market in the early 60s to get and I would stand there facinated as the fish munger chopped their heads off.. stewed eels every Saturday..still love them now..
Another fantastic and informative stroll through the suburbs. Really enjoy your channel and your laid back commentary throughout. Hope you keep going my friend. All the best from sunny Northampton.
A very good and interesting walk john brought back lots of memories as my sister had a bag stall on Walthamstow market for years thanks again john God bless Ann
Don't remember the trams but I do remember the trolley buses that used to run from Chingford Mount, along Hoe St.and up to London. Remember Manze's in the market, and a guy called Arnold that had a large stall halfway down, selling household goods, toys etc. Great entertainment watching him peddle his cut price "bargains". My uncle had Gary J motorcycle shop on the other side of St. James St Station. And we used to have a yard at the bottom end of Coppermill Lane by the relief channel. A lot of things have changed now,sad to say.
I use to go to The Drum Sunday afternoon, when I lived in Morley road. The building opposite the Coppermill exchange was the Pitmans College for typist.
Hi John great walk , the Goose pub was the Towers Hotel back in the day a favourite of my granny's lol. My research did show going back even further it was a stable Best to you and family Johnny
In the late 60`s they revamp`d the place and called it Flanagans Tower.They had a camp pianist called Mr.Fingers something or other.Dont think he lasted long.
Whenever I return to London I notice all the change. But this video is different. I lived in Walthamstow in the late seventies and its amazing how familiar the Market area looks. And the terrace houses. I guess the interiors change (those serving hatches from the seventies long ripped out), the prices may change but perhaps more than anything they symbolize East London.
Great to see this one as I was gonna walk around the marshes and resovires earlier today but the rain put a stop to that so your video really made up for that and as always a joy to watch John, have a great week.
Very enjoyable! I remember going to the Ritz cinema - there was also a smaller cinema nearby but I can't remember the name. (When it showed the Creature from the Black Lagoon, there was a large picture of the creature outside, which gave me nightmares!) The trolley buses at the Baker's Arms always seemed to have problems with their arms coming off the rails! In the market my brother and I were morbidly fascinated by the live eel stall - how the bits kept on wriggling even after they had been cut up. My granddad had a stall in Walthamstow Market at one stage - I thought it was an eel stall but apparently not. Thanks again for another great walk!
John thanks so much for this beautiful video! Enjoying the weather and documenting this charming buildings and shops. It seems like a really peaceful community there. Have a nice week! Saludos desde Argentina
On my rare visits to Walthamstow from devon I stay`d at that Travelodge by Walthamstow Central.From the top floors there is a fantastic view stretching from The Dartford Crossing. Shooters Hill .The Docklands.Olympic Park to The City,and beyond.From the other side the view is From Alexandra Palace,past Edmonton,and Walthamstow Town Hall to Epping Forest. A couple of doors from The Chequers was one of two Rossi`s ice cream parlours,and next door was" Bateman`s The Boys Shop"where we would look in the window and drool over the air rifles and pistols.They also sold flick knives,not illegal in the 50`s. There was M&S and Woolworth`s at the James St end. I remember being outside Manze`s and watching a woman chopping up live eels. We used to take our air rifles and shoot on the marshes by the river.
Great stuff John, I am a little surprised that you have never been in The Drum, I have been in there a few times over the years it's not the best or the worst Wetherspoons I would say your local Wetherspoons is a nicer pub. You are the saviour of Sundays, I always look forward to your videos. Stay safe mate and see you on the next one. Cheers.
Thanks John for this lovely video! I really miss Springfield park. It’s one of my fav park when I was in London and it’s so underrated in my opinion! I was trying to search some videos about Springfield park the other day but it’s hard to find a recent one! Thank you once again for showing me around the park! This means so much to me! 😭
Thanks for another brilliant walk So much has changed since I worked in Walthamstow over thirty years ago and sad to say so much I missed out SMILES 👍🏴👌
I walked from Victoria Park to Walthamstow during lockdown (as transport was only for essential journeys) taking this rough route across the Lea Valley into the market. It’s pretty cool how you can go straight from rural countryside into a bustling town centre within the space of 15 minutes.
So Brodies brewery is no longer at the William? That's a shame, I used to go in for a pint of their 13% imperial stout. Yes 13%, and at the time only £2 a pint :) All of their pub grub was home made frozen rather than 'bought in' frozen, really nice, a great pub.
Another great video John and very similar to one I did during lockdown. I walked from Bakers Arms to Walthamstow Marshes crying every time I passed a closed pub lol.... BTW The Drum pub is ok for a Wetherspoons and worth a visit sometime keep up the great work...
My mum took us to see the Superman film at that cinema along Leyton High Road before it shut down. There is another place that was very, very popular just along from there that shut down a few years ago and that was Ditchfields bike and toy shop. It was a wonderful shop. Even when I had no money to buy anything, I'd go in to have a look around. It had a certain smell to it too, a mixture of the new bikes and all the toy boxes (If I remember right). *It shut down, due to lack of business because of the car parking regulations that were brought in by the council. Another real shame to lose something that was part of the community. And don't start me on Leyton Baths which was on the other side of the road! lol.
that cinema was the RITZ and yes Ditchfields was a wonderful shop but do you rember on corner of belmont park road was the century cinema which is now a poundstrechers just opposite tescos i could rant on for ages i spent the first 15 years in leyton the place looks a slum now
My Springfield pk *antidote is as follows; In the early 90s, I saw a very large skinhead being shouted at by a much smaller man, this turned out not to be an argument but was Ken Campbell (theatrical loud voice) and Buster Bloodvessel (80s ska band Bad Manners) walking their dogs together. *anecdote :D
Great walk again john very interesting Anns sister my sister in law had a Bag stall on walthamstow market up to few years ago its changed so much.. tc john gid bless
Great timing! My long walk this week included basically this in the opposite direction. Inspired by your previous videos, I had to pay a visit to Springfield Park and check out the low bridge on Coppermill Lane. I am somewhat regretting walking across the marshes though; my feet are still itching from all of the insect bites! I also took in Clissold Park, which is another fine park.
Great mixed mediums walk John, thanks! BTW your beautiful book just winged its way downunder, so looking forward to starting that, after I complete The Moor (having just recently - quite sadly actually - finished Rachel Lichtenstein's wonderful Estuary).
Fascinating. You have an incredible knack of reviving interest in familiar places. Hope you can get out a bit further into the countryside soon. Just to let you know that I have had to disable comments on my most recent videos, because I was getting endless comments about masks, is this an essential journey etc.
sorry to hear about the comments voxley - a travel vlogger I watch has also done this for the same reason. This week's video finally takes me out of London - it's a long one
@@JohnRogersWalks Is the travel vlogger you watch Gabriel Traveler? I too follow him, and he has suspended comments on his videos. Glad you've finally got out of London!
Nice to see manze pie n mash shop I have mine delivered from them down to Devon, you can take the girl out the east end but not the east end out the girl😀. Fascinating walk as always.
well john you should have been down walthamstow market when i was, in the 1960's much better, thats when open street markets were better, not all paved over it was a true delight to wander up and down with my friends on a saturady, looking at all the old style barrows and stereet traders and pop into the record shop, yes there were shops around at that time that sold records, no cd's also the man that sold crockery and used to chuck it up in the air and catch it on the way down, not a chip or broken plate anywhere....what fun it was to wacth him and listen to his banter, but those days are long gone now, now its just nasty with all foreign people oh wel guess thats called progress, not what i would call it though
Hi love this video it was were I grow up and walked those streets when I was a kid. When I come back over would like to bye you a pint. Boston Massachusetts Cliff Tully
Lol my ends of London love your videos I was born at Whipps Cross I see the old buildings and I never knew what they were for ,Can you do E20 Stratford
Thanks for uploading yet another thought provoking film which ended all too quickly. I love the ghost sign on the side of the Chequers advertising BILLIARD & DINING ROOMS (on the ground floor?), I wonder what people in 100+ year's time will make of the faded twenty-first century murals you've shown us in this and many other films? Cheers 👍🏼
Excellent John I don't know how you fit all these walks in Wonderful music great photography and an education. I am trying to get my sister to subscribe. Bob.
springfield park thought you was walking from walthamstow to wigan lol the annexe at east ham is being knocked down gutted great old building going back to the middle twentys thanks steve
I was born in Hackney but lived in Walthamstow for 28 years! Shame about Percy Ingles 🙁 I remember Manze’s had a stall outside their shop back in the 70/80’s and live eels were kept in containers....as a young kid I always thought they were snakes! 🤣
Absolutely love your vids. Don't know if it's your Attenborough type tone or calming music that makes the journey so good 😁 Also, I send the links to my Dad who is in Sierra Leone. We lived just next to Whipps Cross, by the roundabout.
@@JohnRogersWalks hope you don't mind a few suggestions - how about a tour of schools? They have some great architecture. Also, why not have a picture of an original building/structure and in your post production, fade into your shot of the same place - I say that because it would've been nice to see the original tram station where the KFC is in Bakers Arms. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Familiar chills - I stay in that Travelodge whenever I return to London, so the sausage, mash and gravy at the Goose is well known to me, as are the market, reservoirs - and the gorgeous samosas from Ambala on Hoe Street. Did a lot to make me feel better about the area again - last time I was not there under the best of circumstances. Have they rebuilt much of Walthamstow precinct after that awful fire? It was hard to tell in the bright sun. PS - 'This area, all around here, was dominated by large houses and grand estates...' cue shot of a disused Poundstretcher - I had to laugh at that!
That's good to hear Paul, I think we can see an end to the construction. I didn't notice the fire damage to the precinct so I suppose that must have been fixed. Glad you appreciated the Poundstretcher juzxtaposition
The Goose used to be called The Goose & Granite back in the 90's. For a while they had a comedy club at the weekend myself and a few mates saw Harry Hill brilliant he was too!
John -- Iost touch with your channel for a year or two! -- did you ever get down to Footscray Meadows -- I recommended it back then. I know its far south of the river for you but I really think it's an oasis. Did it again with my son last week -- you wouldn't know you were still within the London 'red bus' area. Its beautiful -- but you have to walk the full length from Bexley Village
Welcome back Ann. No I haven’t made it there yet, but is that on the London Loop because I’m not far from Bexley Village on my very slow circuit. I’m still avoiding transport wherever possible at the moment but I suppose that’ll change at some point
@@JohnRogersWalks Yes it appears to be on the loop. That will be a good walk. The only thing missing this year was the field full of sunflowers! Must be a crop rotation thing...
Hi Anthony Hatfull, This must had been in the Autumn of 2008 when prior to closure, unfortunately, the establishment was seemingly run exclusively for a certain clique, where integration into the wider local community appeared discouraged. The Baker's Arms became neglected/shabby but whether this was a cynical move to justify closure may never be known, although I honestly can not remember a pub within a converted building society after closure.
Born and raised now live in US, will never get home again, you take me back to my youth Thanx John
How gorgeous the Springfield Park is.
Born in Hackney but raised in Walthamstow until my family moved down to Kent in 1968. Went to Henry Maynard School, and remember the hoe st market, where all my toys was bought from stakeholder John's stalll.Remember too the lovely pie and mash shops in the Lea bridge road. Wonderful memories. Many thanks.
Italians.... coming over ere.... with their delicious Pie and Mash shops......unbelievable.
where is "here"?
mark g are you lost?
@@fallinbing7291 No! I was merely asking if "here" was any specific part of London or the southeast. I doubt they are coming to the northeast of England to make pie mash.
mark g sorry, couldn’t resist...”here” means East London, more specifically NE London. John Rogers’ walks tend to be round Leyton, Walthamstow and Hackney. Although not too many pie and mash shops around now.
Haha! :-)
Thank you john have tears in my eyes so many memories for me as a young lad in the 1960's . Keep safe mate. Dave.xxx
thanks for that Dave - glad I could bring back those memories
Nice video. I like it, lots. I enjoy your peace And peaceful vibes and I enjoy the videos you do on East London and Essex walks as well. Take care. Very Best Wishes and Blessings for you to you.
My dad came from Barnet and when I was a child, growing up in Hove in East Sussex, he sometimes wished he could open up a pie and mash shop, with sawdust on the floor... He never did though, sadly! I'd forgotten that until you showed us Manze's, thanks for that wonderful triggered memory :-)
Lived in Walthamstow for six years so loved this video. Always admired the old telephone exchange too, the modernist masonry and blockwork detailing is lovely.
Here's to better days...the other side of this current lockdown. It is somehow nostalgic...yet was only six months ago. Thank for bringing in some sunshine into my day.
John Rogers! Oh my, you have been a wonderful find. I get to see parts of England that if I were 20 I would walk along with you! Being a Yankee, I am 74, I rather doubt I will get to your country, so going along with you is great. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
vmcougar in TN what a great comment! I have to say, I’ve lived in Hackney for 34 years and used to work in E17. I know the Marshes and beyond like the back of my hand, but John always brings something new to his view of this bit of London. Quite often I find myself watching a vid of somewhere I’ve been walking or cycling just a few hours or days previously, but there’s always something new to discover. Love it. But don’t forget, vmcougar, London is only one little bit of this land, and when I go back to my native Scotland, I’ll try to live up to John’s standards in terms of local history etc. Always welcome here!
@@fallinbing7291 I won't be doing any more traveling, at my age my body is beginning to suffer the ravages of gravity and time. My season for wanderings is past, now I watch others discover the delights that surround them.
vmcougar in TN we’ll be watching right along with you. Enjoy!
I love running under the railway bridge at the bottom of Coppermill Lane. I remember 20 years ago you could still walk ACROSS the tracks through the gates above ...
Born in Walthamstow love this place so much watching your video John, flooding memory walking to Walthamstow market and Walthamstow village
Thanks John born and bred in stow ! living in Wales these days x
Love everything you do. The music is very fitting, I'm so often turned off to perfectly good videos because of the overbearing accompaniment. Thankyou!
I agree .. the music is very fitting...
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You always evoke a feeling of a dusty sunny evening , I don’t know where , however it’s a mixture of nostalgia , sadness , joy and bliss that I experienced it . Xxx thank you
Springfield Park is truly a gem.
Thanks for the walkabout i lived up lowhall lane 1939 lm still kicking at 88 in the USA such great memories I have only 1 mate left Ted Pope who was once guvnor of the Brewery tap
Thank you once again, John, for evoking childhood memories of being sent to the Market on Saturday afternoons to buy the cockles and brown bread for tea.
Oh the memories! Coppermill stream where those low rail bridges are was my magical place. Actually, it was the spot between those bridges , I used to get through the fence and shuffle along the very narrow bank of the Coppermill, then sit there all afternoon, watching the water and the fish swimming through, a truly beautiful place. This was in the early 1970's, and I should have been in school, but that spot was my "playing hooky" place, a place to dream.
Thank you John for the video, bring back all the memory. I used to live near Blackhorse Road. Wish I can visit the area again.
Very professional and engaging. Street video works because of you.
Thanks so much Michael
Brought back memories of the two years spent there 1990 -92. So glad to see the street market and pie and mash shop again. Bought a watch down there which is still here on me. So much to see there so i missed Springfield Park which is certainly beautiful.
Thank you so much, moved 8 years ago,how things have changed, took me back to happy time when I was a child, lived in Leyton , worked in Walthamstow marketing pink sweet shop , happy days, kid used to love me
Great video John used to live in walthamstow in 1989 in a high rise tower block on essex road near the market, which is now demolished. Didnt visit half the things you show. Thanks for sharing this.
Looked like a great summer walk. Pie and mash makes me hungry! Cheers, John.
thanks Rob
Excellent film, John. Good music too. Many thanks.
Bless you gov, a lovely walk, - I learn't to swim at Leyton Baths (now Tesco's and the Rolling Stones played there). Queued outside the ABC Leyton for 3 hours to see Grease in '78. Before the now defunct Poll Tax House, there used to be shops on Hoe Street bridge on the village side. These included a brilliant model/toy soldier shop (I was a member of the Airfix club), which was next to a Newsagent - they were owned by a mother & son, two of the most miserable people you could ever meet (in my childish eyes). Selbourne Park, where I spent a lot of time circa 1971-77 had, as the lady said, 2 bowling greens and a putting green. There was a disused hall behind the Library where my mother had her 21st birthday party in circa 1952, but Selbourne also the park had loos that were notorious (not as bad as the ones that were at the end of Wood Street). Where the Empire cinema and Turtle Bay etc is now there was once an Arcade of shops with flats above. Walthamstow had once apart from the majestic Small Wonder Records - two Dereks Records - one in the Arcade and one on Hoe Street which would have been about adjascent to McDonalds now. The Goose was the Goose & Granite, The Tower Hotel, & Flanagans (with a huge toby jug germanic head on the corner triangle). Happy days - Changing times changing landscapes
thanks for sharing those wonderful memories Sean
I learnt to swim in Leyton baths too....ah the smell of chlorine takes me back! 🙂
Go to Springfield more often . Gorgeous.
Thanks for another great walk John. I remember my uncle bringing me to the dogs in Walthamstow, fab memories of pie n mash after 😀
Great production 👏
I was born in Walthamstow and try to visit on my birthdays. Treat myself there
We used to call the road from the railway bridge to Springfield sandy alley. My grandad boxed bare knuckle down there
Thanks John really uplifting thanks, Walthamstow is lovely, see you soon ....
cheers Leslie
The Heron perched on the fence was great. Another brilliant walk thanks John 💕😋
thanks for another video John!
Lovely video john a sunday highlight love those old cinema buildings and waterworks cheers
Really sorry to hear about Percy Ingles closing. Generations of my family used to use the one in the Narrow Way in Mare Street. When I lived in Chingford I used the two shops there. Real East London institution.
There's one in Lewisham High Street
Long overdue visit to the market John. It has changed so much and yet, hasn't. It was my daily walk to work in the late 80's and early 90's. Probably bumped into you. The ghosts of future pasts indeed...
It's like walking through different atmospheres you go on for ever and never pass the same one twice.
Wow very beautiful and intresting place.
I went to the Leyton ABC cinema many times in the 70’s & 80’s it was a colossal size with an upper tier balcony. On the approach to Bakers arms where Tesco now is was Leyton swimming baths. There were 3 pools one of which was huge and had high diving boards with a 20ft deep end. You also could have an actual bath there in the men’s bathroom section which housed about 30 tubs!
I used to watch the wrestling there. Steve Logan.Dr.Death.Mick Mcmanus. Jackie Mr TV Pallo,and lots more all before Big Daddy,and Kendo Nagasaki.
Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. I was sure it used to be a SP there, but then I thought I was having some kind of false memory syndrome. Can remember being involved in moderately "unpleasant scenes" at a school basketball match there.
Where exactly was the Leyton ABC cinema?
@@akali83 it’s the building you see in the opening clip (now Ladbrooks) although it may have been called Leyton Odeon just near Bakers Arms. There was also a Leytonstone Ritz near the Green Man where McDonalda now is
@@davidmcguiness8862 Ahhh Thanks! I've always only known it as the place that has the brilliant charity for the local disabled community -DIAL.
Great shame that it's just a Ladbrooks now.
Hi John, thoroughly enjoyed the walk from the busy streets to the lovely park at the end. It is such a shame to hear and see how the green space is getting nibbled away...just awful! You pack so much into your walks the stories and history you tell are so much appreciated, thank you! Always feel like I'm going on a walk with a wonderful friend! 😊 Looking forward to where you will take us next! Take really good care, stay safe.
Good evening John! Another great video. Have a good week mate
Thanks Sean
Wow, and thank you so much for another fantastic video.
Your video's are great. I left the uk in 1988 so you take me back to my child hood. I'm from the Lloyds
Park part of Walthamstow. We rode our little tracky bikes to many of the places you visit. Hollow ponds, messing about on the Ching. Down the river lea and many more. At 17 l was working at Wakefields fruit n veg shop at the Baker's arms.
Great memories!
Great again John..every Saturday me nan took me to the market in the early 60s to get and I would stand there facinated as the fish munger chopped their heads off.. stewed eels every Saturday..still love them now..
Another fantastic and informative stroll through the suburbs. Really enjoy your channel and your laid back commentary throughout.
Hope you keep going my friend. All the best from sunny Northampton.
Thanks for the tour very informative, keep it up
Thanks Diane
Thanks yet another most enjoyable walk
Thanks John, what a beautiful ending to the walk. See you on the next one ( where ever that maybe )
Thanks James
Lived in E17 until I retired in 2014, locals always knew it as the High Street not the market. Loved the place as it was, not now.
Lovely walk John, fascinating as always.
thanks Tim
A very good and interesting walk john brought back lots of memories as my sister had a bag stall on Walthamstow market for years thanks again john God bless Ann
Don't remember the trams but I do remember the trolley buses that used to run from Chingford Mount, along Hoe St.and up to London. Remember Manze's in the market, and a guy called Arnold that had a large stall halfway down, selling household goods, toys etc. Great entertainment watching him peddle his cut price "bargains". My uncle had Gary J motorcycle shop on the other side of St. James St Station. And we used to have a yard at the bottom end of Coppermill Lane by the relief channel. A lot of things have changed now,sad to say.
Great vid! my first time on your channel it was quite worth the time. Cheers!
Thanks High Five and welcome to the channel - hope you enjoy more of the videos
I use to go to The Drum Sunday afternoon, when I lived in Morley road. The building opposite the Coppermill exchange was the Pitmans College for typist.
I love cycling past Springfield Park up the River Lee
Perfect video, no any shakiness
Hi John great walk , the Goose pub was the Towers Hotel back in the day a favourite of my granny's lol.
My research did show going back even further it was a stable
Best to you and family
Johnny
In the late 60`s they revamp`d the place and called it Flanagans Tower.They had a camp pianist called Mr.Fingers something or other.Dont think he lasted long.
Whenever I return to London I notice all the change. But this video is different. I lived in Walthamstow in the late seventies and its amazing how familiar the Market area looks. And the terrace houses. I guess the interiors change (those serving hatches from the seventies long ripped out), the prices may change but perhaps more than anything they symbolize East London.
Great work as always John, ( and that vegan lunch at 15:09 )........Nice.
Great to see this one as I was gonna walk around the marshes and resovires earlier today but the rain put a stop to that so your video really made up for that and as always a joy to watch John, have a great week.
Very enjoyable! I remember going to the Ritz cinema - there was also a smaller cinema nearby but I can't remember the name. (When it showed the Creature from the Black Lagoon, there was a large picture of the creature outside, which gave me nightmares!) The trolley buses at the Baker's Arms always seemed to have problems with their arms coming off the rails! In the market my brother and I were morbidly fascinated by the live eel stall - how the bits kept on wriggling even after they had been cut up. My granddad had a stall in Walthamstow Market at one stage - I thought it was an eel stall but apparently not. Thanks again for another great walk!
It was The Plaza.They show`d older films and was cheaper to get in. Now its a branch of Jesus Christ P.L.C.
John thanks so much for this beautiful video! Enjoying the weather and documenting this charming buildings and shops. It seems like a really peaceful community there. Have a nice week! Saludos desde Argentina
On my rare visits to Walthamstow from devon I stay`d at that Travelodge by Walthamstow Central.From the top floors there is a fantastic view stretching from The Dartford Crossing. Shooters Hill .The Docklands.Olympic Park to The City,and beyond.From the other side the view is From Alexandra Palace,past Edmonton,and Walthamstow Town Hall to Epping Forest.
A couple of doors from The Chequers was one of two Rossi`s ice cream parlours,and next door was" Bateman`s The Boys Shop"where we would look in the window and drool over the air rifles and pistols.They also sold flick knives,not illegal in the 50`s.
There was M&S and Woolworth`s at the James St end.
I remember being outside Manze`s and watching a woman chopping up live eels.
We used to take our air rifles and shoot on the marshes by the river.
Great stuff John, I am a little surprised that you have never been in The Drum, I have been in there a few times over the years it's not the best or the worst Wetherspoons I would say your local Wetherspoons is a nicer pub. You are the saviour of Sundays, I always look forward to your videos. Stay safe mate and see you on the next one. Cheers.
thanks Andy
Reminded me a bit of when we lived in London in the mid-eighties. Looks like you had great weather for the walk. 👍
Great video John thanks for posting. I'm still officially in lockdown..119 days so videos like this help.
Thanks John for this lovely video! I really miss Springfield park. It’s one of my fav park when I was in London and it’s so underrated in my opinion!
I was trying to search some videos about Springfield park the other day but it’s hard to find a recent one! Thank you once again for showing me around the park! This means so much to me! 😭
A nice walk not been there for a few years now brings back a lot of memories well done good video
thanks Brian
Great film John - Thanks.
Another great walk John!
Thanks for another brilliant walk So much has changed since I worked in Walthamstow over thirty years ago and sad to say so much I missed out
SMILES 👍🏴👌
I walked from Victoria Park to Walthamstow during lockdown (as transport was only for essential journeys) taking this rough route across the Lea Valley into the market. It’s pretty cool how you can go straight from rural countryside into a bustling town centre within the space of 15 minutes.
So Brodies brewery is no longer at the William? That's a shame, I used to go in for a pint of their 13% imperial stout. Yes 13%, and at the time only £2 a pint :) All of their pub grub was home made frozen rather than 'bought in' frozen, really nice, a great pub.
Another great video John and very similar to one I did during lockdown. I walked from Bakers Arms to Walthamstow Marshes crying every time I passed a closed pub lol.... BTW The Drum pub is ok for a Wetherspoons and worth a visit sometime keep up the great work...
cheers Paul
My mum took us to see the Superman film at that cinema along Leyton High Road before it shut down.
There is another place that was very, very popular just along from there that shut down a few years ago and that was Ditchfields bike and toy shop. It was a wonderful shop. Even when I had no money to buy anything, I'd go in to have a look around. It had a certain smell to it too, a mixture of the new bikes and all the toy boxes (If I remember right).
*It shut down, due to lack of business because of the car parking regulations that were brought in by the council.
Another real shame to lose something that was part of the community.
And don't start me on Leyton Baths which was on the other side of the road! lol.
that cinema was the RITZ and yes Ditchfields was a wonderful shop but do you rember on corner of belmont park road was the century cinema which is now a poundstrechers just opposite tescos i could rant on for ages i spent the first 15 years in leyton the place looks a slum now
@@barrygoodman2781That must have been before my time Barry. I remember it being Tesco's years ago, but not a cinema.
@@BritishBoy1971 sorry someone mentions leyton and i forget how old i am. im coming up 73
@@barrygoodman2781 It used to be called The King`s Cinema before changing to the Century in the early 1950`s.
@@BritishBoy1971 And before Tesco it was Victor Value`s.
My Springfield pk *antidote is as follows; In the early 90s, I saw a very large skinhead being shouted at by a much smaller man, this turned out not to be an argument but was Ken Campbell (theatrical loud voice) and Buster Bloodvessel (80s ska band Bad Manners) walking their dogs together. *anecdote :D
brilliant anecdote, funnily enough I was thinking of Ken Campbell when I walked through the park
Great walk again john very interesting Anns sister my sister in law had a Bag stall on walthamstow market up to few years ago its changed so much.. tc john gid bless
I used to live very near Springfield Park. The trick was to climb over the fence, late in the evening - especially under a full moon.
Great timing! My long walk this week included basically this in the opposite direction. Inspired by your previous videos, I had to pay a visit to Springfield Park and check out the low bridge on Coppermill Lane. I am somewhat regretting walking across the marshes though; my feet are still itching from all of the insect bites! I also took in Clissold Park, which is another fine park.
Great mixed mediums walk John, thanks!
BTW your beautiful book just winged its way downunder, so looking forward to starting that, after I complete The Moor (having just recently - quite sadly actually - finished Rachel Lichtenstein's wonderful Estuary).
Ah wonderful stuff, hope you enjoy it
Fascinating. You have an incredible knack of reviving interest in familiar places. Hope you can get out a bit further into the countryside soon. Just to let you know that I have had to disable comments on my most recent videos, because I was getting endless comments about masks, is this an essential journey etc.
sorry to hear about the comments voxley - a travel vlogger I watch has also done this for the same reason. This week's video finally takes me out of London - it's a long one
@@JohnRogersWalks Is the travel vlogger you watch Gabriel Traveler? I too follow him, and he has suspended comments on his videos. Glad you've finally got out of London!
Nice to see manze pie n mash shop I have mine delivered from them down to Devon, you can take the girl out the east end but not the east end out the girl😀. Fascinating walk as always.
great stuff
well john you should have been down walthamstow market when i was, in the 1960's much better, thats when open street markets were better, not all paved over it was a true delight to wander up and down with my friends on a saturady, looking at all the old style barrows and stereet traders and pop into the record shop, yes there were shops around at that time that sold records, no cd's also the man that sold crockery and used to chuck it up in the air and catch it on the way down, not a chip or broken plate anywhere....what fun it was to wacth him and listen to his banter, but those days are long gone now, now its just nasty with all foreign people oh wel guess thats called progress, not what i would call it though
Hi love this video it was were I grow up and walked those streets when I was a kid. When I come back over would like to bye
you a pint. Boston Massachusetts Cliff Tully
Lol my ends of London love your videos I was born at Whipps Cross I see the old buildings and I never knew what they were for ,Can you do E20 Stratford
Then you would remember the underground toilets on the Wipps Cross roundabout. A well known "Cottaging" venue" Iv`e been told :)"
Thanks for uploading yet another thought provoking film which ended all too quickly. I love the ghost sign on the side of the Chequers advertising BILLIARD & DINING ROOMS (on the ground floor?), I wonder what people in 100+ year's time will make of the faded twenty-first century murals you've shown us in this and many other films? Cheers 👍🏼
cheers Mick
Excellent John I don't know how you fit all these walks in Wonderful music great photography and an education. I am trying to get my sister to subscribe. Bob.
thanks Bob
Another great video
thanks Wes
springfield park thought you was walking from walthamstow to wigan lol the annexe at east ham is being knocked down gutted great old building going back to the middle twentys thanks steve
Sorry to hear about that building Steven
I was born in Hackney but lived in Walthamstow for 28 years! Shame about Percy Ingles 🙁
I remember Manze’s had a stall outside their shop back in the 70/80’s and live eels were kept in containers....as a young kid I always thought they were snakes! 🤣
Absolutely love your vids. Don't know if it's your Attenborough type tone or calming music that makes the journey so good 😁
Also, I send the links to my Dad who is in Sierra Leone. We lived just next to Whipps Cross, by the roundabout.
Thanks very much MrE - love the thought of the videos being watched in Sierra Leone
@@JohnRogersWalks hope you don't mind a few suggestions - how about a tour of schools? They have some great architecture.
Also, why not have a picture of an original building/structure and in your post production, fade into your shot of the same place - I say that because it would've been nice to see the original tram station where the KFC is in Bakers Arms.
Anyway, keep up the great work!
Familiar chills - I stay in that Travelodge whenever I return to London, so the sausage, mash and gravy at the Goose is well known to me, as are the market, reservoirs - and the gorgeous samosas from Ambala on Hoe Street. Did a lot to make me feel better about the area again - last time I was not there under the best of circumstances.
Have they rebuilt much of Walthamstow precinct after that awful fire? It was hard to tell in the bright sun.
PS - 'This area, all around here, was dominated by large houses and grand estates...' cue shot of a disused Poundstretcher - I had to laugh at that!
That's good to hear Paul, I think we can see an end to the construction. I didn't notice the fire damage to the precinct so I suppose that must have been fixed. Glad you appreciated the Poundstretcher juzxtaposition
The Goose used to be called The Goose & Granite back in the 90's. For a while they had a comedy club at the weekend myself and a few mates saw Harry Hill brilliant he was too!
So the town council of Walthamstow didn't listen to the people and the tower blocks are being built?
03:55 _Empress Cinema_
I remember that cinema as being named _The Plaza._
John -- Iost touch with your channel for a year or two! -- did you ever get down to Footscray Meadows -- I recommended it back then. I know its far south of the river for you but I really think it's an oasis. Did it again with my son last week -- you wouldn't know you were still within the London 'red bus' area. Its beautiful -- but you have to walk the full length from Bexley Village
(BTW -- subscribed now)
Welcome back Ann. No I haven’t made it there yet, but is that on the London Loop because I’m not far from Bexley Village on my very slow circuit. I’m still avoiding transport wherever possible at the moment but I suppose that’ll change at some point
@@JohnRogersWalks Yes it appears to be on the loop. That will be a good walk. The only thing missing this year was the field full of sunflowers! Must be a crop rotation thing...
Nice video John
Hi Anthony Hatfull, This must had been in the Autumn of 2008 when prior to closure, unfortunately, the establishment was seemingly run exclusively for a certain clique, where integration into the wider local community appeared discouraged. The Baker's Arms became neglected/shabby but whether this was a cynical move to justify closure may never be known, although I honestly can not remember a pub within a converted building society after closure.