When Your Favorite Old Shows Don’t Hold Up

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[@aoifem4296]

Would you guys do a sketch about trying to explain a little-known disability like dyspraxia? I'm thinking something similar to the one about coeliac disease.

[@dropout]

@@aoifem4296 interesting idea! thanks for the suggestion Aoife!

[@scarlymushroomnoodles6261]

Aoife M My cousin has dyspraxia

[@izzyperformingarts3855]

if you guys made a cartoon from the dimension 20 fantasy high audio you'd for real make a killing

[@mekman4]

CollegeHumor _”... I just hate Martin Luther King (Jr.).”_ spot on with the British accent for that one, I mean if it were 2019. But which Martin Luther would the British hate more? The _Black_ one or the one that started religion? Okay, both (these days).
Otherwise, this is no different than scrolling through the bulk of UA-cam’s back catalogue, mostly filled with British accents that hate Martin Luther King and Martin Luther.
Old TV is current UA-cam.
Great Stuff.

[@Europa1400]

So no one told you life was gonna be this way

[@joshwheeler6502]

👏👏👏👏

[@daninbox]

@@joshwheeler6502 Your job's a joke, you're broke
Your love life's D.O.A

[@WWEVoice101]

@@daninbox It's like you're always stuck in second gear...

[@elineverstraeten1872]

@@WWEVoice101 When it hasn't been you day, your month, or even you year

[@dropout]

@@joshwheeler6502 lol

[@willmenalove]

They were referencing the Friends episode where Ross and Rachael hired a male nanny
And the one were Phoebe was cranky when she was pregnant with triplets

[@Domihork]

Wasn't it more about when Rachel was pregnant? Since it was Ronald's (Ross's) baby?

[@jdropje8]

I was thinking of the episode where Chandler thinks taking baths is "gay".

[@WixkedLovy]

Domihork
No, Emma was already born. That’s why they were looking for nanny’s.

[@awesomeminingwizard]

I’ve been rewatching Friends and honestly Ross is kinda sexist. He really cares about traditional gender roles and he’s kind of a dick about it. Like with the male nanny thing.

[@jabman05yt16]

Chandler- “Could you BE any gayer.”

[@thedoctork1037]

I love the constant laugh track that plays even before they make a joke

[@theyearwas1473]

They make jokes?

[@KodakYarr]

@@theyearwas1473
Yes, on par with The Big Bang Theory 👌🏼

[@justinbryan6249]

​@@KodakYarr Pretty much every sitcom with a laugh track or live-studio audience.

[@miriyumyum3590]

​@@justinbryan6249 except how i met your mother

[@justinbryan6249]

@@miriyumyum3590 Does that show have a laugh track or a live-studio audience?

[@pyrofur_nx]

hearing Brennan say "could you be any gayer" gives me life

[@NoRegretsHomestuck]

My life is now complete!

[@AenusGaper]

I don't understand, Ronald is the bigger chum why doesn't he just eat the others?

[@dropout]

scientists still study this

[@radicalvashspiegal]

Great Futurama reference :D

[@allyourpcarebelongtous8744]

Futurama FTW

[@BlackCover95]

Perhaps they’re saving that for the sweeps.

[@jorgebeans3736]

Best reference ever

[@DonCDXX]

I liked sci-fi shows in the 90's. They hold up well because they were all about inclusiveness and acceptance. Picard never dropped the n-bomb on TNG.

[@jonathanstern5537]

That would have been a weird episode. I also think Buffy holds up.

[@dropout]

@@jonathanstern5537 Buffy is amazing

[@JavierFernandez01]

Jean Luke pinches Beverley's butt and says "there ya go, baby" right before they engage the borg for the first time.

[@dropout]

TREKKIE UTOPIANISTS UNITE

[@Nate-hb8tw]

There was that episode where they portrayed an entire black planet as tribals though

[@skranbets69]

Yeah, it must suck if that happens. Luckily, my favorite show, the cosby show, is a timeless classic

[@BobPagani]

You can't go wrong with the Cos.

[@timbuktu8069]

That man will be funny forever.

[@Crazelord91]

TBF the show itself isn't problematic and was very progressive. But still, best not watch it anymore

[@TCt83067695]

@Michael Freed lol

[@sarahgracecook1643]

Yeah the show itself wasn’t bad but I couldn’t watch it without thinking about him

[@KidYoureAHomo]

Lets all go watch the Flintstones sell cigarettes to children

[@inferno9714]

Amazing that a Stone Age society had both access to tobacco and the paper to roll it. You think they had weed too?

[@KidYoureAHomo]

@Little Oggie You didn't precede your answer with "Um, actually" and are awarded no points.

[@dropout]

they had a compelling pitch

[@pinstripesuitandheels]

@@inferno9714 how could they not? It's the Stone (d) age!
I'll see myself out...

[@inferno9714]

Inez De Kleine Oh come now, don’t be ridiculous... I’d be more than happy to kick you out the door.

[@meme_machine1599]

This feels kinda awkward since college humor used to use the same type of humor.

[@dropout]

alright, listen, we all said A LOT of things back in 200...1-10

[@camelopardalis84]

@@dropout I know this is a joke but some "retard" jokes I come across online were made suprisingly recently (less than five years ago) and also on otherwise "woke" sites. I knew that "retard" jokes weren't okay in about 1994, pretty much the moment when I knew they existed.

[@FivesCT]

@@camelopardalis84 lol get over bro. It's not a big deal.

[@maxpowers2011]

@@camelopardalis84 just because something is wrong to say in public or directly to a persons face, doesnt mean its not funny. Ive heard racists jokes and sexist jokes from both sides of the spectrum and I find some of it funny in context. This doesnt make me racist or sexist. I recognize the low brow humor for what it is and only share it with those that i know wont be offended by it. The problem is, people have forgoten that words are nothing but words, and its up to us weather we let it affect our daily lives.

[@andrewd084]

No one has "forgotten that words are nothing but words." That's an absolutely ridiculous and meaningless statement. We use words to communicate, because they mean things (well.. except when we formulate them into lazy platitudes to make ourselves feel better about being amused by cruelty, but even that communicates *something*).

[@JoeBleasdaleReal]

“A guy acts feminine?”
“That one won an Emmy”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eevee7663]

Boy am I glad we watched the same video!

[@adityakhanna113]

Femmynine

[@SavannahBurris]

It's totally OK to enjoy old shows that don't hold up to modern standards as long as you recognize that they are problematic in the present.

[@SavannahBurris]

@Zandeus the way Chandler handles people seeing him as gay, his father's gender. All things considered though, Friends holds up well compared to other older shows. I absolutely adore the show, actually.

[@saints360row]

Savannah Burris, What makes you think they're truly wrong now? Maybe our idea of right and wrong is still wrong; well of course it is, It's an idea through subjective morals which are rationalized as okay. How do you know what you know you know is really what's to know, you know? ;)
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Daniel J. Boorstin.

[@SavannahBurris]

@@saints360row I think that because im literally a gay person?? It's a little uncomfortable to watch Chandler seemingly misgender a trans person constantly.

[@mikay7866]

@@SavannahBurris
None of the things you said are problematic...

[@SavannahBurris]

@@mikay7866 how. how is misgendering trans people NOT problematic

[@Supuhfuzz]

College humor in 2019 roasting friends for not holding up, ha

[@dropout]

look we WILL throw stones in our house made of precious and fragile glass

[@MichaelTries]

CollegeHumor old CH is like classic snl, new stand can’t stand up to the old stuff. Just keep doing your thing, new CH really getting into their own groove lately

[@nuksucao]

If anyone has learned from this lesson, it's CH. I can't scroll past some of old CH's thumbnails without cringing any more. I really wish they'd change them.

[@Exciting_Posion]

Friends sucked. Lame white bread corny show.

[@leephillips4402]

nuksucao you mean furry force

[@Crazelord91]

While rewatching a lot of my favorite shows, I've definitely noticed this too. But one show that really holds up is *Malcolm in the Middle* . They address race and even homosexuality fairly respectful and progressively

[@jonnnnniej]

Loved that show!

[@katharineeavan9705]

Reese and Malcolm trying desperately to be supportive with no real idea how when told the other one is gay is amazing. Takes it away a bit that they're so 'ew gross' about it when they find out the other thinks they're gay, but still pretty sweet.

[@hopewilson7918]

Its treatment of women doesn't hold up at all though. Personally I had to stop watching after (edit: spoilers
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we found out Hal lied to Lois and said he'd gotten a vasectomy when he hadn't, and it was played off as no big deal (she's only mad for like 5 minutes). Like he was gonna risk her health (physical and mental) without her knowledge and that doesn't make him the villain? Nope

[@Crazelord91]

@@hopewilson7918 Yah true. A lot of great shows have that problem in hindsight. Though I don't think it's the worst. It isn't How I Met Your Mother

[@samanthalawton6972]

able bodied actor playing a disabled person is not ok

[@jordachejordan90]

The "That was my whole identity!" line is deep bc that is the reason won't accept criticism abt their entertainment choices.

[@thesoupin8or673]

Was worried I would have the same problem with ATLA when my gf introduced me to it recently, even though it was a kid's show. No such problem! The paralyzed kid has a dope flying wheelchair; Toph is even cooler than normal Earthbenders and her disability is a strength, not always a weakness for her; Zuko's story is a powerful one about abuse and forgiveness with Iroh; and the message about the Fire Nation's imperialism still holds up. Diverse cast, tons of strong female characters, and I've never heard the words "Mary Sue" uttered once. 10/10 gonna watch LoK sometime soon

[@bordomsdeadly]

If you haven’t watched LoK yet…..
You’ll be pretty disappointed.

[@theradionicrevival8068]

Mfs were cooking a guy on twitter for rightly ppunting out that if ATLA came out today, a hoard of people would call it woke garbage because a blind girl can not only fight well, she fights better than most characters and helped train the MC
This isn't being said as a ''the west has fallen'' honestly the kinds of people the tweet was describing DEFINITELY existed in the 2000s
It's more about how the internet has given just about every mf a platform for better AND worse
Before guys like that could only reach their own little toxic groups now everyone has to hear about them.
Honestly a bummer as black dude and in general how often slang used in our communities gets appropriated and then overused and later misused to the point where it means something entirely different and then nothing at all.
Especially sucks for actually super important words like triggered or groomer or porn addict
Honestly one of my biggest red flags are the mfs who use 'woke' un ironically
Take a rare leap to indulge them and you quickly learn everything released in the last 4000 years is app woke now:/
It's not far off from those dude bros who are super insecure about their sexuality to the point where showing basic human emotions or interests in anything is considered
Truly, the most stable and unserious people to ever walk the earth

[@theradionicrevival8068]

Also Korra isn't prefect but the internet did what it did and kinda overesaggerated it's problems a ton.
The upside means you're in for a much more fun time than you ever thought was possicle
It's pretry much a meme in the fan base in the modern day for someone to pick up Korra and expecting it to be bad only to be Utterly blown away

[@ryanmoore6259]

@@bordomsdeadly I disagree. It stumbles a bit but Korra herself does grow more mature and even in her more jerky moments she at least has a reason.
Katara WAS treated pretty badly back in the day.

[@ryanmoore6259]

@@theradionicrevival8068 Pretty much. Korra is a well rounded character who makes mistakes.
Many of the people saying "shows like Avatar did it better" only say that because they grew up with it.

[@Lesbomarx]

Now I wanna know what that "I just hate MLK" line is parodying

[@Theduckwebcomics]

It's something George from Seinfeld would say... But then he was supposed to be a horrible person so it wouldn't make sense that they'd parody him

[@BobPagani]

The lines are not necessarily parodying a specific line from a specific show. It's more 90s TV comedy in general.

[@CaptainDoomsday]

@@Theduckwebcomics They were doing Friends, but it DOES sound exactly like a George line on paper.

[@justinbryan6249]

@@CaptainDoomsday What season & episode? I'm curious.

[@mollusckscramp4124]

@PrimePal Yeah it literally won a GLAAD award for that episode 😂 First thing I thought of lmao

[@lianasajith661]

Too early to find interesting comments, too dumb to post one myself...

[@dropout]

classic dilemma

[@nayasparrow3635]

liana sajith I can relate.

[@Silverfirefly1]

...your love life's DOA!

[@calldy]

When you're British and know that chums is a real show on saturday morning telly

[@ILike2PlayBass]

Yes! My, cat deeley was fine...

[@AndRewUK24]

It was British parody of Friends on SM:TV.

[@travelwell6049]

Ant, Dec and Cat. Which one’s the gooseberry.

[@SacredDaturaa]

okay Wesley Snipes.

[@traceyohearn6222]

"When your favorite old shows dont hold up"
The last Airbender can't relate

[@oliverkroker527]

Because it's an extremely well made show that won't age even in three centuries. Never seen legend of Korra but heard it is very good.

[@xxselenaxx2142]

Aht! There are problems in avatar that are simply comparatively nothing when you look at any other show of the same time period.

[@ryanmoore6259]

@@xxselenaxx2142 In some ways Star Wars is the same. Thing is they're mild enough that new material was able to update it without any problems

[@LordMoonshadowGaGa]

Everyone, everyone. Perfect show. Still holds up. Two words:
Golden. Girls.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

The only issue is I don't think there were any people of colour on that show, not even any "tokens"

[@harpersmith1400]

@@SurprisinglyDeep Well that's not necessarily offensive. Inconsiderate perhaps. But they didn't get anything wrong with their casting choice as individuals, they just should've been more diverse.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@harpersmith1400 Very true. Like if they'd just added a supporting character or re-occuring guest star that was a person of colour, the show could've been even better than it was

[@diogenes3949]

Two words.
Speed.
Racer.

[@aurum-anadeus4875]

also two words
Father. Ted
again
Fawlty. towers

[@9CirnotheGenius9]

"There are like 0 people of color in here"
"Noo there's one in this episode"
me: it's gonna be the janitor
"You must be the janitor!"
FUCKIn-

[@IceMetalPunk]

To be fair, there WAS a person of color on Friends, who wasn't a token stereotype! Aisha Tyler played a doctor of paleontology who Ross dates... for 9 episodes... in a show that ran for 10 years... *coughs nervously*

[@ZombiZohm]

So let's just ignore the Myriad of shows fully casted by people of color

[@norefunds4731]

Please turn back to the Amazing Welsh Broiling Tournament.
*It's so hot.*

[@norefunds4731]

@@dropout
You will.....
YOU.....WILL.

[@justrenthx]

Yeahhhhh that Marry a Prince show was the actual premise of an actual show that happened not enough years ago. Pretty sure it was called I Wanna Marry Harry and it was, you know ... that.

[@CHNHH]

Yes I remembered. It’s so early 2000s reality tv and Wasn’t it produce by Ryan Seacrest or something.

[@norefunds4731]

Let's take it back to the 50s and 60s people. When racism, sexism, bigotry, hatred, homophobic lead characters...
*Let's just forget I said anything.*

[@JavierFernandez01]

Ahyyyyy

[@JavierFernandez01]

Ketchup, ahy. Ice cream, ahy. Ketchup and ice cream, whoah

[@norefunds4731]

@Little Oggie Agreed. All of it.

[@samanjj]

My 3 Sons, and Leave it to Beaver hold up better than Big Bang theory and Friends.

[@spider1266]

@Little Oggie
The mid 70s? There were a few shows with white women as leads before then

[@Bigcatthief]

Im going to miss the office so much

[@dropout]

[tries to type then deletes office theme in 'dun dun dun' format 3x in a row]

[@Bigcatthief]

CollegeHumor dun dun duna nanana dun dun duna nana na naa duna na na na duna nana dun dun duna na na na dunununanana na

[@abirdkilledmeh]

Lol same! I already knew about the sexism and racism in it when I watched it back when it came out... but atleast I don't make excuses for it so I feel like I can watch it still.

[@Amazatastic]

the office still holds up in 2019, most of the worst jokes come from michael who is portrayed as a huge idiot that no one in the office can stand. thats part of what makes the cringe humour so good, its bc it would absolutely not be good if people said those things in real life, and its very much making fun of people who act like michael. there are some parts of the show that are a bit dated (namely the shows treatment of meredith and michaels abusive relationship with jan), but pretty much all the gay and black jokes punch up, not down.

[@dropout]

@@Bigcatthief HOLY MOLY YOU DID IT

[@Raven2389]

Futurama will ALWAYS hold up. It was ahead of it's time..
O-O

[@jacobd1984]

I’t’s time

[@Raven2389]

'Its a minor error lady... I mean we're space aliens! Its a miracle we can even understand English''

[@InsAnneity]

1001 years ahead of its time give or take.

[@phillip2169]

It's hammer time?

[@blossomingbeelzebub]

Greatest show of all time

[@neothepenguin1257]

The secretary thing is based on an episode where that actually happened but it was a babysitter

[@opheliapurple]

On one hand, I think it's a good thing that shows from twenty years ago don't hold up at all- it means we've progressed past that point and should celebrate how much more we understand now.
On the other- it is NOT a hot take to think Ronald is human garbage and anyone who doesn't know that through sheer hindsight is on thin ice.

[@theperson8539]

I feel like we haven't progressed based on some of these comments.

[@justinbryan6249]

​@@theperson8539 Who's Ronald?

[@theperson8539]

@@justinbryan6249 Wha?

[@justinbryan6249]

@@theperson8539 The original commenter mentioned something about some guy named Ronald, and that he was human garbage.

[@theperson8539]

@@justinbryan6249 I dunno, Ronald Reagan fits the bill.

[@NikkiLahvU2]

Now I need my notification ringtone to be Brennan saying "Could you BE any gayer?!"

[@Alec.V.]

I don’t think you’re allowed to use all that audio from Friends without permission.

[@goldenscarecrow]

Wert's Channel you’re

[@trex0004]

Whatcha talkin bout?
It's from C•h•u•m•s ;)

[@christopherballero866]

I'm going to go watch a TV series that will always hold up extremely well: The Cosby Show

[@jediyarahim-danford7592]

Hahaha. This comment made me giggle.

[@patrickt.6492]

Especially that one episode where everyone is falling unconscious at the cookout because they got roofied or something. Totally not problematic at all.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

@@patrickt.6492 It didn't make them pass out. It made them horny.

[@christopherballero866]

@Zandeus not the show itself but the star of the show

[@fairystail1]

@@christopherballero866 Tbf Cracked did a part about this, how with their ages and when the parents started being into each other... well the wife was something like 16 when the husband was early 20's when they first got together. it is a lil creepy.

[@HyenaFox]

Yeah, even more recent sitcoms. The Big Bang Theory is built entirely around a group of problematic incels who's constant misogyny and ineptitude in social situations is played for laughs because "guys look they super smart and have money, which means they can't be bad people!"
Like, it got better in later seasons with Burnadette and Amy being introduced and becoming friends with Penny... Amy was just as nerdy as Sheldon but wasn't as completely socially inept and helped Sheldon become a little less obnoxious, and Amy and Burnadette both being overachievers helped inspire Penny to focus more on her real aspirations instead of just working in food service for the rest of her life, but like... Still.

[@emmathestonedspider8676]

Really hurt me to watch some old Fresh Prince episodes and see Will not understand what no means.

[@treycotton9121]

I mean if anything he was just annoying, he never really crossed a line

[@emmathestonedspider8676]

Still didn't respect when they said no, he kept on, which is not respecting consent. When you keep on after being denied, you are going against consent.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I'll get the lawyers on the phone.

[@UserJWR]

I think the James Bond movies until the 90s are much worse.. I don't know which movie it was but in one of them Sean Connery's Bond practically rapes the girl in a barn, ignoring her saying "no" repeatedly and trying to physically keep him away from her.

[@silentdanicb]

It's a show, it's a character and it was the 90s,they didn't care then, and you care to much now

[@rocknroller167]

If there is any "old show" that still holds up today it would be All in the Family. Take any episode and we either still have that issue today or some version of it.

[@BobLogical]

That's a weird way to spell Batman: The Animated Series.

[@saints360row]

And a very weird way to spell M*A*S*H.

[@Rougarou99]

Never seen LOST spelled that way.

[@niallharrington3636]

@@saints360row show yes, movie no

[@BobLogical]

@@Rougarou99 Because no one was talking about that show.

[@brendonstephen1246]

"I'm not Racist I just Hate MLK"
I fucking died from the delivery

[@Codemarla]

People rag on Friends for apparently being homophobic, but seem to forget it was one of, if not the first mainstream show to feature a lesbian wedding.

[@tarantrinnaman296]

Which Ross continually crapped on and tried to mine for comedy and “sympathy” for the rest of the series as well as continued to make jabs at his former partner and her wife

[@Codemarla]

The characters did, but the show itself treated it respectfully. Susan and Carol are often shown to be the most stable and loving relationship while Ross is a romantic failure.

[@icemanfresh]

Carol's parents refused to attend the wedding, and she almost called it off, but Ross convinced her to push through. He also walked her down the aisle in her father's place. Apart from a few jokes, the show treats the wedding and their entire marriage as legitimate. The female pastor even stated that it made God happy when *any* two people come together in love, and this was treated completely seriously by the show.
Friends is definitely problematic in certain parts, but it's far less homophobic than people remember

[@NankitaBR]

@@Codemarla that was the joke. The joke was: Ross can be even less functional in a relationship than 2 lesbians (that were supposed to be the disfunctional ones in society's eyes)

[@bonbon2225]

Aaron Ong let’s not forget the part where phoebe is canonically bisexual

[@kellys5949]

I prefer Russ and Rebecca on Chums.
“I’ll be here always!”

[@seandeignan6615]

When the rain falls in Wales

[@kelzbelz313]

There was actually a reality show where they got an actor who looked vaguely like Prince Harry called I Wanna Marry Harry. Only four episodes aired

[@FullMoonOctober]

I never got that show. Their 'Harry' looked nothing like the real one, so unless they start the show off by talking about how every woman competing was face-blind, how would anyone believe the set up?

[@MrZer093]

Interviews with the women later on revealed that literally all of them knew it wasn’t him but they were told to pretend. Reality shows are fake! But that isn’t too surprising lol.

[@matrixrory]

Anyone else expecting to hear Anc and Dec when he said Chums.

[@gothamsandwich1106]

matrixrory Yass!

[@AdamC2013]

CH likes this message? They get an Ant and Dec reference?

[@GaryDunion]

Oh god I miss Chums so much

[@AndRewUK24]

Yes

[@louiejohannesen9810]

The insults at friends are so thinly veiled, I love it

[@Kari7]

The internet: Your favorite older show is problematic!
Me: I can't hear you over the sound of the F.R.I.E.N.D.S. opening credits.

[@FullMoonOctober]

Tbh, the opening song was probably the best part of the show. That and a few classic Phebe lines.

[@zerosashes]

This is how I feel about “How I Met Your Mother”

[@dannymccrea9642]

Nah, I still love himym (so long as I don’t watch the last five mins of the last episode)

[@chrisfarmer6893]

Yeah I realize now that Barney is a predatory creep who deceives and coerces women into sleeping with him. And it's just a big joke like, oh haha you do you Barney! 😖

[@zerosashes]

@@chrisfarmer6893 Yeah exactly, agreed. It's awful on the rewatch.

[@mikelor84]

​@@chrisfarmer6893 it's not the same thing. viewers are supposed to notice that stuff right away and not to empathize. He IS a creep and a psycho, a bad person on most aspects, that's why he gets slapped so often (the slap bet) and the girls of the group often say that he's gross/disgusting and they always act like they don't trust him, and everybody smiles when the bad karma strikes him, etc.. he's a bad guy (with a few redeeming features), kinda like Amir V Blumenfeld. Amir used racial slurs (vs black/arabic/jewish/asian ppl and muslims), calls women 'bitch', is mean, disrespectful and homophobic but Jake notices it and often calls him out. in those old tv shows, instead, some bad behaviour is considered normal (both by the audience and by the other characters) and nobody calls nobody out

[@mikelor84]

@@chrisfarmer6893 and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I'm ashamed of liking Jake and Amir or HIMYM. those shows are great, but we should not forget that these are characters, when they were written the author didn't want us to empathize with their bad side but we're supposed to dislike it. just like there are Villains who are racist, evil, foul mouthed, abusive etc... King Jeoffrey for example is very sexist, Ramsey Bolton is a rapist , and Calvin Candie (from Django) is racist, but it's allowed because they are evil. IMHO Amir and Barney are interesting characters because they ARE villains, but not antagonists.
I hope that we won't have to say goodbye to such kind of characters, and to the villains because of PC culture. Imagine a world where a TV/movie villain can't be racist nor homophobic nor offensive in any kind. BORING

[@m_here1]

love the fact that you posted this on the 25th anniversary for friends

[@marcusmining5505]

I feel the Simpsons, being popular in the late 80s and 90s, was pretty progressive for it's time

[@ValensBellator]

I remember a few years back realizing that the treatment of cross dressers/transsexuals in that show, specifically Chandler’s dad being the butt of jokes simply because he dressed like a woman (I can’t recall if he was a cross dresser or she was a transsexual), would probably age worse and worse as time went on heh
Still a funny show though. I’d say the vast majority of the humor is largely inoffensive. I mean, I’d watch that shit regardless, but I think most would be cool with it as well.

[@marctelfer6159]

"Chums" was brilliant! Ant and Dec and Cat Deeley? Best part of Saturday mornings on ITV :D

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

YES!

[@Codemarla]

I think... im gonna kiss her

[@McKrispy94]

So glad someone else thought about it to!

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

"This was your entire identity, growing up?"
Raph delivered that line like a boss.

[@MaxAttaxxxxxxxxx]

You don't even have to go that far back. How I Met Your Mother has some serious issues.

[@marcellXcatalyst]

I love that show, but yes.

[@mikelor84]

@@marcellXcatalyst @MeganNow are you talking about Barney?

[@marcellXcatalyst]

@@mikelor84 I think you meant to reply to MeganNow

[@MaxAttaxxxxxxxxx]

@@mikelor84 all of the gang had issues around race/homosexuality/misogyny through out the show. It did get better in the later seasons though

[@mikelor84]

@@MaxAttaxxxxxxxxx Barney is basically an evil guy in sheep clothes (like Amir Blumenfeld, you're supposed to think he's bad)... I admit a certain degree of misoginy from Ted and also the fact that they all were enablers for Barney's bad behaviour, but I don't recall them being racist nor homophobic.

[@Lex60]

This happens to me a LOT with movies from the 80s and 90s. Specially THAT kind of "comedy". College Humor did a sketch about that too.

[@mycollegeshirt]

It's amazing how many shows from 90's 2000s the joke was you're black, gay, or a woman. Not even an offensive joke just pointing out their existance.

[@sweaterpause7862]

It's like going too far back into your faves Twitter...

[@Rayscraz]

I love how everyone knows what show they're talking about

[@Adam-rb7pm]

that dayton ohio reference at the end was a little 😳😬😬

[@kevinc2970]

Adam i couldnt hear what she said tho

[@kevinc2970]

William Curtis is that what she said at the end? That there was a shooting?

[@ashchoosespikachu]

This is waaaay too relatable...friends,allll the 80's movies, everything fits in this category

[@alexanderking8336]

Man, I just had this happen to me with rewatching Danny Phantom; I was actually surprised at how well it held up, and it did a great job at being what it was, but maaaaan that small handful of "effeminate man/crossdressing" jokes were awkward.

[@tylerturner7929]

So when you say doesn't hold up you mean back when people wouldn't get offended at everything and we could actually have fun.

[@darth-severus]

Exactly

[@FrancisR420]

It's back when people related to these bigoted opinions and jokes, so much that is show felt it could rely on them, glad you still like it tho.
"So by racist you mean back when people wouldn't get offended over treating black people as lesser than human and could actually have fun, at their expense"

[@shreksmustyfeet2217]

This is the first CH video where the setting is at a home and not the workplace

[@TheMbmdcrew]

South Park very much has this problem, and I’m tired of people claiming it doesn’t. I know it’s an extremely beloved show that makes some good points, but many of the episodes from the ‘90s and 2000s are just painful to sit through with my 2020s sensibilities.

[@yasa9031]

This is why Spongebob has always been a superior show.
I mean, the only time they were actually racist it was against Texans so... it doesn't count... uh... maybe...

[@shotgun6X]

No no, you're right. It doesn't count. (Plus, how were they racist against Texans? The only Texan In the show was a scientist genius athlete)

[@yasa9031]

@@shotgun6X there's this whole part of an episode where they try to get Sandy to be mad and they're like "what am I? - stupid! - no, I'm Texas! - what's the difference?!" or some stuffs like that

[@Raven2389]

How about the episode where Mr Krabbs wants to be 'cool' so him, spongebob and patrick break into a house that apparently they 'hit all the time' to steal underwear. TWIST its Mr Krabbs moms house!!
Even THEN that episode made me go WTF!

[@FrancisR420]

@@Raven2389 that was hilarious and wasn't really encouraging it if anything it was pointing out the fact that the women you objectify are mothers and daughters if you don't care enough about them as people

[@blueberryshake333]

Texan is not a race.

[@ChristinaInTheMaking]

Def owe the "Chums" thing to 30 Rock.

[@thesuperioraj1067]

i love the awknowledgement of just how fucked-up who wants to marry harry really was

[@nyasham1]

The same can be said for CollegeHumor in the early 2000's.
Videos, comics and articles were really funny then... But now, I wouldn't dare show them to my wife!

[@BlackCover95]

Any specific examples? I want to see what we’re really dealing with.

[@andrewmat]

​@@BlackCover95check the popular tab in the channel

[@trappy6748]

Does anyone know what her father exchanged her for?

[@reptiliancow]

A goat

[@LM-yt7zk]

Same reason trying to binge watch collegehumor sketches without accidentally stumbling on one older than 5-6 year ago is a challenge. People really don't believe me when i say it's good now

[@busang9253]

Thought this was gonna be one of those therapy session sketches, oh well

[@dinahmyte3749]

Rewatched an episode of Moesha that deals with interracial couples... they break up after the white guy experiences racism and Moesha is told that it'd be easier if she dated another Black person and no one brings it up again...

[@camelopardalis84]

There was an episode of the show "Girlfriends" where one of the many primary characters - of which all are Black and almost all are women, if I remember correctly - finds out she's part white. And she has half a "nervous breakdown" over it. And it's not because she finds out she's been lied to about who her father is or anything. No, just the mere fact of finding out she's not 100% Black (or a descendant of people of whom 100% were *all, without any exception* considered to be Black) makes her act and talk that one might think she'd want to jump out of her skin. I weirded me out so much to see that. And to see this being portrayed as a completely understandable reaction. This episode was produced in maybe 2009, and if at that time or even considerably earlier there had ever been a white character on a show that had reacted to having a tiny amount of "black blood" in them in not just the same way, but displaying only 5% of that disgust, this character would rightfully have been framed as ridiculously racist or, if it hadn't, the show would have least been heavily criticised for it.

[@PunchKickBlog]

lol, just watched ghostbusters yesterday and yeah, same thing basically. Bill Murray being predatory, gay jokes, all of it.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

Yup, pretty much :\

[@jamesmallone]

I don't recall gay jokes in Ghostbusters. Dick jokes, yes, but gay jokes? Can't recall any. If you could give an example, I'd appreciate it because I'm drawing a blank.

[@yungwooloo]

"Too bad mister, that's just how women are" delivered so straight is killing me

[@lunsj]

I like how at 3:22 the CC just says "Man in blue laughs" lol. Like they didn't know Raph's name.

[@onkive]

1:30-1:38
The timing just before the "Could you BE any GAYER?" line and Raph about to speak and his reaction after that was just perfect. That line was delivered so well too.

[@jamesmallone]

Funny thing, the ONLY 90's sitcom I remember featuring a cast member using the N-word...was Spin City. Where Carter Heywood, who was a black, gay man who was generally portrayed in a very positive light, was making a point about racism...he used it as the punchline to a very cynical joke with the setup "what do you call a live-saving surgeon who just happens to be black?" And the scene wasn't played for laughs.
The problem with the joke in this video, is that a mass-appeal sitcom on basic cable in the 90s wouldn't be allowed to use the N-word for a cheap joke, due to Network restrictions on course language. Even Seinfeld didn't do it, what they did is had Jerry get in trouble for saving the f-word - which was bleeped.

[@thrillhouse_vanhouten]

I re-watched Superbad recently and was kind of caught off-guard by how insanely horned-up every line in it is.

[@jamesmallone]

@ULGROTHA
The guy's fake ID says "McLovin" that was the thing I always remembered from Superbad.

[@IceMetalPunk]

I've never seen Superbad and know nothing about it, but... is being horny considered offensive now?

[@Elidaawesome]

"I'll be there always, when the rains fall on Wales"

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

Looking back on it, Married With Children did pretty well. There are cheap fat jokes but none of the characters dishing out insults are considered aspirational figures, it's more like an arena where everyone takes shots at everyone rather than people on their high horse kicking people while they're down.

[@Evija3000]

Usually when the characters were sexist/mysogynistic we were supposed to laugh at the characters who expressed it or at others' reactions (like in the episode about the male nanny).
It's a different story about trans/homophobia though.

[@jayy7754]

HIMYM aged so poorly you couldn't rewatch the earlier seasons without cringing before it even ended.

[@Actionfan19]

Like the fact that all the main characters are some form of a terrible person or that almost the whole build up to meeting the title character was all for not?

[@gezi5927]

Jay Y what’s HIMYM?

[@arandomqueerfanpeep7655]

@@gezi5927 How I met your mother

[@gezi5927]

A Random Omni Fanpeep ohhh thanks

[@Actionfan19]

@PrimePal Am I? /:|

[@mondolee]

When the subtitles refer to the two as *man in blue shirt* and *man in red shirt*

[@AutisticSoyDaddy]

By the way, that last show is based on "I Wanna Marry Harry" and "Joe Millionaire".

[@morbidsearch]

There was this Saturday morning bloc in the UK called "smtv live" that had a recurring sketch called 'Chums' that parodied Friends

[@bDwS27]

Every saterday he invites me to a party and every time he does he forgets to give out the address . . .

[@nicolesong6199]

Tao's face is so funny he can do that dramatic sad face soooooo dramatically

[@DoctorLazers]

It's weird to think of Friends as homophobic. It's creator and lead writer was a gay man. Even the male nanny episode they were parodying, Ross was supposed to look like a doofus for being weirded out by the male nanny. The whole point of the episode was that Ross was being unreasonable.

[@questionforquestion]

It's an impressive resistance to cognitive dissonance that allows someone to rant angrily into the void of the internet about how sensitive 'SJWs' are just because some minorities point out some 90's shows are problematic. I wonder if they feel attacked.

[@paulsmith9198]

What is ironic is that old videos from CollegeHumor hold up better than the new ones.

[@BlackCover95]

Which are the best?

[@mirandatagliamonte9754]

Can’t believe they actually referenced I Wanna Marry “Harry”, the show I only know about from one tumblr post about how it’s literally gaslighting

[@Asterluna]

I just found out the "marry a prince" reality show actually happened... It's called something like "I Want to Marry Harry" or something

[@Reeinki]

if only the “old college humor” purists would realize the same thing 😔😔🤧

[@ATLracing]

To their credit, old College Humor videos were pretty funny. This, er.. PSA.. is not. But alas, it seems many would rather pat themselves on the back than laugh.

[@te1327]

@@ATLracing this isn't meant to be funny, there is the occasional little gag here and there but overall it's more of a serious video. And also humour is incredibly subjective, you don't have an authority over what's funny and what's not.

[@mdtexeira]

These videos will also fail to hold up. Eventually it may get to the point where ideas commonly held one year are offensive the next.

[@FrancisR420]

It's taken centuries to get to the point where universally treating black people as lesser than white people is considered racist and bad and we're still not there there are still way too many people who think that way.
Yeah so one might get offended a year later but it's not because everything changed in a year.
we're not looking at a bunch of people ingrained in their ways who changed their mind in ten years were looking at the end of quite a dark era

[@Nevering-e2r]

It took a many centuries for equality and equity to reach this far for women, POC and the LGBTQ+ Community so changes will take a lot longer than you think.

[@abbiecarter4578]

i love trapp narrating the last show haha

[@nealfirstofhisname]

This is disgusting, that people accepted that kind of stuff.
Anyway I'm off watching my favourite films, "Gone with the Wind" and "Birth of a nation".

[@fulviopontarollo2952]

T-the old 50s-60s Twilight Zone episodes are still safe to watch now, r-right? Right?

[@leephillips4402]

Fulvio Pontarollo yes the Twilight Zone is a classic

[@annieboookhall]

Twilight Zone was all about challenging your own perceptions and prejudices

[@LordMoonshadowGaGa]

Kinda. They did use topics of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia, but they used them to impart moral lessons that those things were bad.

[@nemowindsor8724]

Yes and no. It's still my fave show of all time but there were eps that definitely had problematic lessons and content. Most of the classic episodes that are remembered seem to be holding up pretty good, at least on my last rewatch.

[@stephaniepines3961]

Shoulda watched "Old Lady's house". It still holds up!

[@jemmaj2919]

U dont need to explain another era, we lived it and we liked it as it was

[@FrancisR420]

By "we" you mean straight white people?
Cuz these blacks and gays didn't exactly have an ass full of roses at the time.

[@FrancisR420]

Also I was born in 2000 so it does need to be explained to me

[@whatisfzeroanymore2nd]

Being from dayton ohio, hearing that just name dropped in the middle of this innocuous sketch made me choke on my food. Thanks collegehumor! lmfao

[@1faraday]

Weirdly coincidental reference to Dayton Ohio given everything

[@ManiacX1999]

Y'all gotta roast your own old videos, that'd be a treat

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

Yeah, like that time they made a video about having a shower with your girlfriend, which is super centered on their cis male hetero audience, which evidently is not inclusive at all... which is not great, but, you know...
...you know, is nowhere near as bad as half the stuff that passed as comedy in TV shows.

[@spider-man6088]

@@TiagoMorbusSa I'm seeing your comments everywhere. And wow! You're seriously the perfect example of a corrupted child.
Let me guess... below 23, female... and American...
Am I right?

[@AlkisenSuper]

Their older videos are actually funny though, the new ones put me to sleep.

[@te1327]

@@AlkisenSuper that's because it's easy to get laughs out of jabs at low hanging fruit. And using subtle racism/sexism/homophobia in your jokes is easy.

[@AlkisenSuper]

@@te1327 Nope, you're missing the point entirely. There were really clever parodies and hilarious surrealist/absurd humor back in their old days. Maybe it wasn't always PC, but comedy doesn't have the recquirement to be PC anyway.
At the very least you gotta agree Jake & Amir was classic.

[@flowrling]

yknow, the "marry a prince" thing in this sketch is probably referencing the show "i wanna marry harry", where producers tricked several women into thinking they were marrying a real prince when it was just a lookalike

[@emperororthopox1691]

My favorite show as a kid was Ace Ventura Pet Detective but if you rewatch that movie you'll quickly realize that the movie is incredibly transphobic

[@Killingglorie]

ye we get it, some shows dont hold up to what we think is right and wrong anymore.......pffff

[@HWOD]

Thank you