Faded Glory the Von Erich Story Banned Content Edit
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Faded Glory, The Von Erich Story is a documentary that was created, produced, and directed by Rusty Baker while attending Radio/Television/Film school at the University of North Texas in 1999. The documentary contains original video from Von Erich, The Legend Lives On, which produced during a documentary workshop case at UNT in 1997. Once Fritz Von Erich died, Rusty Baker and Kevin Von Erich agreed to make Faded Glory as a tribute to Fritz and his legacy. The video also contains many of the Von Erich family's personal home movies and wrestling footage, which was all used with permission of Kevin Von Erich. Original wrestling commentator Bill Mercer, who also taught at UNT's RTVF Department, agreed to serve as the video's narrator.
The documentary was shown at the 1999 Dallas Video Festival, USA Film Festival, and Fort Worth Film Festival. Kevin and Rusty would appear at each festival and answer questions from the audience. Faded Glory aired multiple times on Dallas/Fort Worth's PBS station KERA, garnering some of the station's best ratings in decades. It was also the first feature-length documentary to be featured on Mark Cuban's Broadcast.com.
Nearly 15 years after this documentary was made, Kevin Von Erich would sell the entire World Class Championship Wrestling video library, including all Von Erich family wrestling footage, to World Wresting Entertainment, Inc. With WWE controlling all Von Erich footage, the copyright-protected documentary was somehow still banned from being shown. This ban is also enforced on UA-cam, although numerous people had already posted the documentary without the consent of the filmmaker, Rusty Baker. He is currently disputing the ban and is attempting to repost the now 24-year-old student project to UA-cam.
UPDATE: All original footage of the interviews are available for an updated version. Please show your support for any and all edits by commenting below.
It's shit like banning content even from projects that pre-date their purchasing of World Class' video library that makes many people hate WWE. Vince McMahon really does think he owns the entire wrestling world & apparently that ego continues in that company even after his departure. Even with the in ring b-roll removed this is still a fantastic watch to anyone who loved the Von Erichs back in the day despite the WWE attempted sabotage. Thank you for posting
You said it all! Thanks. More VE content to come later.
Agreed🤘🤘
IKR!! it is so petty and evil!
It was sold my guy. When it was purchased, they knew the stipulations. It's unfortunate, but that's business. Selling it in the first place was regrettable, but I'm guessing the money was an opportunity to start over, & allow him to focus on his family.
We love you Kevin the last von Erich
He is pretty amazing
@@PickingUpthePiecesofUs It's not just having his brothers die. BUT MY GOD! How many times have they made Kevin relive each one's death? Way too many.
I was 9 when David passed on and I never, EVER, got over it. The greatest “what if” story within wrestling, bar to none. He was poised to become the NWA champ and god knows what would have happened.
You said it all.
@@PickingUpthePiecesofUs not quite, but I am about to!
The Von Erichs had equal mainstream attraction potential as Hogan, but they appealed to teenager girls and women, not so much to kids as Hogan, but even that is debatable: both of us were kids in 83- 84 and I was way more invested in the Von Erichs than in Hogan!! You want to know something really unique? I am from Bogotá, Colombia, lived here then and got to see all of this! Not on a weekly basis, but on somewhat of a regular one! My Dad was the CEO of a huge American corporation, so he traveled a lot to the States all year round and brought me the tapes!! That’s how transcendent the Von Erichs were!
I swear Flair is one of the luckiest men alive. Does he go onto the career he has if David doesn't pass, or even if Magnum doesn't have his accident?? So many what if's if David doesn't pass. How much bigger does World Class get??? Does Fritz take over the NWA instead of Crockett??? I like to think there's an alternate reality somewhere where none of the boys pass and all those questions are answered.
@that’s the key point mate. David as NWA champion would have given Fritz even more clout within the NWA, and that’s when things get interesting. Can you imagine Fritz taking control and not Jim Crockett Jr.? Or both reaching an agreement and working in cahoots? Oh boy, one could salivate just by imagining the possibilities. That’s how good DVE was
I was just starting my Freshman year in high school. I never played football, track, lift weights, or wrestle until I saw Kerry working out on the first WCCW tv opening credits. I would watch that show every Saturday morning because I lived in Arizona, and it was taped delayed until the next day. I lost my baby fat, and gain mass muscle, and learned how to play all the sports because I wanted to be like the Von Erich's. I even learn how to use the iron claw. I could crush oranges to bending iron rods. I went to a show they were doing in Oklahoma, and I was hoping to meet Kerry, but he had been an accident. I asked some of the other wrestlers what happen, and if Kerry was alright. I won't name the wrestler who told me Kerry lost his foot. I just graduated high school, and was thinking to try pro-wrestling. After I talk to a couple of well-known wrestlers at that show they gave me the best advise to not try out. I still love the old school wrestling videos, but hate the new stuff of today. I never met any of them the Von Ericks, but they were apart of my life, and I can't thank them enough for doing what they did in wrestling. If Kevin sees this, Thank you, sir. Also, thank you, Picking Up the Pieces of Us for this video. I hope the video stays up(UA-cam, WWF, WWE!).
That’s amazing how much they impacted your life in a positive way. I hope Kevin does see your post. He’s a really great guy and his kids are amazing too.
Sad sad, no words for this. They always be remembered.
Agreed. Knowing the family though, you’ll find that there is triumph over tragedy. They are a strong family in heart and spirit, just as much as in physicality.
I agree. surprised there life hasn’t been turned into a movie.
I always pay my bills, I try to keep my word and usually do, and I'm always on time, thanx Fritz!
That’s great!
Mike, Chris,Kerry, David Kevin had great child hoods, look at old home videos ,bikes, go karts, motorcycles and duck hunting lots of family times together
Fritz had a box full of old films that he asked me to transfer in 1997. That’s where I got the idea of making this documentary about family more than wrestling. One of these days I’ll post the original 1997 documentary.
How much did Vince pay for the old footage ?
Im from Iowa big on Hayden Fry but sure never knew he was so close to this family and man to me Kevin went through the most deciding his path to follow outliving his brothers to tell the story the only son to see his parents divorce now the strength for his own family. Love that guy!
You are the reason we made this video in the first place. Thank you so much for watching and sharing!
Friz's voice...the perfect forum for the wrestling world. RIP
No joke
Archived 😃 thank you for posting this
Thank you for saying that. Everyone’s excitement for this makes me want to go back and re-edit the entire piece so that I can deliver it to you without the WWE getting all over me.
Thank you so much, for this edited version
I’m glad to bring it to you. It looks like this version may be banned too! Watch while you can.
One of my favorite memories of my dad, and one of the very few things he took me to see, was a trip to the Sportatorium! I got to see Kevin wrestle Buddy Roberts… and the R&R Express v the Midnight Express!!
If you were a Texan back then… a trip to the Sportatorium was one of the “musts”. The other memory with my dad, (the only other thing he took me to witness) was a Cowboys/Redskins game.
Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t a “bad” dad… just always working.
THANK YOU DAD!! I MISS YOU!!
#VonErichs4Ever
I still remember that match! Thanks for the memory
I met Kevin in Lubbock delivered a pizza to him after the matches he gave me a twenty dollar tip
That’s pretty cool
Take the ads off the video. It should not be monetized. It'll really open up the amount of people who would watch it. Its a documentary that needs to be seen.
On top of that, it wouldn't be censored if it's not monetized.
I didn’t realize that I only had one shot to get it published on UA-cam. I held the copyright to everything within the video in 1999, but the Von Eric family sold their rights nearly a decade later. Now, UA-cam is siding with the current license holder, which Makes it impossible for me to make a dime off this. That’s OK, it was never my intent to make money.
We’ve been given threats of lawsuits and cease and desist orders since we publish this in 1999. I guess I was never supposed to make money on it.
Great video. I would love to see the full version. There should be a statue of limitations on this you would think
WWE finally agreed to let me put the entire video on UA-cam. Here is the link: Faded Glory, The Von Erich Story (1999 documentary)
ua-cam.com/video/a5YTUECrFRs/v-deo.html
Kevins two boys are doing great in wrestling they remind me alot of Their dad and uncles
Somewhere I have more footage of them wrestling at home.
I suggest transcoding this to the highest resolution and edit in music during the interview parts.
I wish I could. Any change of the video would knock out the 1999 copyright. However, I did find a higher resolution copy since posting this.
Saw kevin and Kerry a few times in Amarillo. People would go ape shit when they came out. It was pretty cool.
Always fun watching that!
God bless the entire family
God Bless You Kevin❤ Thank you Rusty🎉
You’re welcome!
Thanks for sharing this. The latest narrative is for everyone to crap on Fritz and blame him for all that happened with his sons. It's nice to see these scenes where it is obvious of Fritz's love for his boys. Did he do everything right? Of course not. However, all of the blame does not land on his shoulders. I put a lot of the blame on the wrestling business itself, especially 80s wrestling. The victims of that era spread far beyond the Von Erichs. Each of those boys saw their older brother become a "superhero" in Texas and they all "needed" to follow in those footsteps. Whether they really wanted to or felt like they had to, they knew that they needed to follow. How was anyone going to realistically deny them of that opportunity? Combine that with the lack of awareness of male mental health issues, especially in that era, and it was a recipe for disaster. Hell, Fritz desperately needed counseling after Jackie's terrible tragedy and I guarantee he got no help there. The mental anguish this family went through is immeasurable, and I have much admiration of Kevin for staying strong and raising his own children.
You might be the smartest person to ever comment on this topic
Thanks for sharing
Thank YOU for watching
I don't understand why WWE is banning footage, especially of the Von Erichs. Is it that they're just greedy for money?
Hard to explain. I had the copyright from my documentary in 1999, which included all the wrestling footage. They bought the wrestling footage from Von Erich family a few years later. Now, that I’m trying to put it on UA-cam, they are saying that they on the footage, but I had access to it in 1999, and eventually prevailed in letting you guys see it. I’ll just never get paid for it.
@@PickingUpthePiecesofUs it is a good documentary and it deserves to be seen. Especially now that the movie Iron Claw is out and is NOT 100% accurate to the facts.
Suicide is the end they think, but no its a start of pain forbsome sadness for many and we dont whats next we hope. The pain they must have been in and Kerry had both emotionsl & pysical and like Kevin sad Kerry his looks were everything so matter what he looks which anybody wish they looked like. But looks down and all sees is a half of foot no us we wouldnt notice unless we looked hard but when he looks into full size mirror he will only see his foot . So i wonder if he never been hurt thats a what if. His brother Chris if they had cruiserweight and born healthy but i hope they all R.I.P
Well put
I always thought Vince JR shouldve brought in Kevin & Kerry as a tag team to face Heart Foundation , Rockers , Demolition and single matches wouldve been great.And Chris shouldve been a cruiser or lightheavy division he couldve been a star that way his own size so he couldve made that
The possibilities would literally have been limitless
Chris had brittle bones
I wonder how much Fritz paid his son's for matches at The Sportatorium, Fort Worth and StarWars big shows
Good question. Seems like I knew once. Maybe Kevin could shed some light.
This is nice
Thank you for watching! I finally got clearance to post the full version, so be sure to check that out before it gets pulled.
Next to Ric Flair Kerry was my favorite wrestler
WCCW was the greatest
Nature Boy! Whoooo!
awesome
Thanks!
19:45 Kevin said David & him were in JCP Charlotte, NC feb.8,1984 David was dizzy no that was in 1/8/84 for vacanted NWA World tag team tournament one month earlier, because Feb 8,1984 JCP was in Spartanburg, SC tv taping of WWW & MACW and feb 5,1984 Charlotte, NC house show no Von Erichs on card .
You’re quite the historian! I don’t remember dates and cards, but I bet their are many others like you out there who remember.
@@PickingUpthePiecesofUs I remember lot of von Erich s .they were as popular if not more than the Dallas cowboys. You know fritz was good freinds with coach Tom Landry
At one time Landry was scouting Kevin von Erich. During his college days. But by then Kevin hurt his knees had 2 surgeries
This is better than the new movie if you ask me. The movie was a huge disappointment, such a shame.
Thank you so much for the compliment. I wish I could go back now (25 years later) and make it better
36:45 "It's too cartoony for me today" wow and this was in 99. now just magine what he thinks of AEW
We may have motivated him to say that line.
The look on her face
Who? The girl getting kissed by Kerry? That’s hilarious
Oh how i loved these guys😢 and feel such emotion for Fritz and Dottie
I can’t imagine their heartbreak with each and every step of this tragedy
The younger and real even Kevin never got be with their brother very but 4 kids I guess don't how the parents Stade strong
That would have been a great question to ask Fritz.
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That’s lots of thumbs.
Poor Kevin he has excuses for all his brothers suicide sad
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I.know.this.stuff.a.lot.of.people.know.this.stuff.what
Was.banned😮
My documentary, Faded Glory, was done with the Von Erich family’s consent in 1999. Later, the wrestling footage was purchased by the WWE. They initially tried to keep me from posting my documentary on UA-cam, but my 1999 copyright prevailed! But then they said it I couldn’t release it in dozens of foreign countries. I guess wrestling is considered violent there? And finally, one of the songs we used was flagged for copyright. So, that’s why there’s a 4 minute audio dip in the video. Regardless, I’m not allowed to make money on my documentary, but I’d rather you see it then just let the tapes sit in my attic.
The WWE really sucks!
You’re not wrong
😩 P r o m o s m
Not sure what that means
I'm not trying to be ugly and the truth never really is. The wrestlers knew it but don't dare say it well a few like Dutch Mantel have. The truth is that something was bad wrong with all these boys including the one that survives to this day. They were all slow in many mental ways that their parents instead of covering up for should have gotten help for. The Dad was never really right in the head either. The combo of the mom and dad produced moronic in different ways boys that all were slow and suffered defects. The wrestlers talk to this day amongst themselves about this very fact. The truth should be openly discussed. One look alone at any one of those boys and it could easily be seen and when they talked it could easily be heard.
As a longtime friend and former partner of Kevin, I say you’re absolutely wrong and awfully ignorant. Why do you think you can just post anything you want and not fear repercussion? Because you’re talking about celebrities? Do you think that gives you a privilege to trash people with baseless accusations?
I watch them wrestle in Dallas for years and as a waitress I had the privilege of waiting on them Steve Austin and the undertaker ( then Texas red) and they all was great people very respectful so how dare you say they were slow. You just showed your ignorance. Bet you couldn’t do anything these wrestlers did and do!
I guess the many wrestlers who worked with them are wrong as well. An adult could see from watching them on TV as well. They killed themselves! Something was wrong with them boys. Those around them knew it. Maybe you can't see because you have issues, not sure why you couldn't see it but the rest of us did as well as the wrestlers.@@PickingUpthePiecesofUs
I knew them. They killed themselves and were slow as stidents also. I chose not to do what they did and boxed with world chapions and trained chapions. I'm not talking about Steve or Mark! I'm telling the truth about the Von Erich's. @@CynthiaWright-h7e
Fame can do crazy things to people. You have no idea the pressure these guys were under . Kevin is very successful. So where do you get he is slow or something wrong with him ?