15+ Charger R/T 3.09 Differential Swap: Complete Guide
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Installation of 3.09 Limited Slip Differential on Charger R/T, all parts required, and information you need to get the job done.
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Thanks Man So Much , You Really Reassured me , I already have the gears and plan to get them installed in two weeks , this video was highly needed, thumbs up definitely deserved 💯👏🏽
Im glad I could help bro! You got this!
Hows ur charger with the diff???
it shows 1.24k subscribers.on my screen right now.big congrats dude on breaking 1k subs.now if ya keep it up.hopefully soon 100k subs.
Haha I made myself look dumb with that 🤦🏻♂️. I’ll keep grinding dude... maybe one day we’ll have that many!
4:05 An open diff sends power 50/50 until one tire runs out of grip. Once either tire starts slipping effectively 100% of power is being sent to the tire with the least grip which provides very limited acceleration.
What you said makes sense about the car having the power to do straight line both tire burnouts but then only doing a one wheel peel on turns, I was told my challenger already had the lsd but that’s exactly what it does, straight line burnouts are both tires, but the slightest curve and it’s a 1 tire fire. Will definitely look into this mod
If you haven't stumbled upon this already, the 15' and up have a bastardized version of torque vectoring that applies the brake to even the grip on both wheels in certain conditions, making the open differential act as an LSD. This method is flawed and doesn't help a majority of the time, but definitely had me thinking my 2015 Chrysler 300 S 3.6 had an LSD
Great video brother👍🏾
Very good video. Probably the best video on this swap information wise.
That’s quite the compliment. Thank you!
You solved my questions. Thx bro
Very organized video. I’ll give you a like
Thank you!
Doing this on my 2018 5.7 300s within the next few weeks. Great video man!
You're gonna love it man!
I have the same vehicle 2018 Chrysler 300s,did the swap go nice and easy bro?
@@freightrain808 Perfect timing on the question! I just did it about a week ago. It took me like 6 hours and that was with a lift (I have access to a lift I can use for free whenever I want luckily). Pretty much exactly like @DonnyR/T said in the video. Drop the exhaust from the mid pipes back, drop the old differential, then reinstall everything in reverse. You're going to have to man-handle stuff, just try to be careful while you're doing it if that makes sense haha. No problems so far, still working on getting in those 500 miles before I push it though. One last thing, just make sure you have the 5.7 in your 300s or this won't work for you, it's a different differential.
@@idunno3639 hey, so i have a 2015 pursuit charger. Its 5.7L awd. Can i put an lsd from a hellcat.(its 2.62 gears and I believe same as my open differential) i am only confused because my car has 5 spd nag1 tranny. Not the 8spd newer one. So does that make any difference?
@@harsimransingh7036 I'd have to do some research for sure but I'm pretty sure not many things on the AWD models swap over when it comes to the drive train. I've seen a bunch of videos where the comments say if it's an AWD they take different than the normal parts on the RWD models
I wonder why only 4k subs on this great channel.. keep up the good work 👍🏻
That means a lot to me bro. Thank you!
How has the axle boot held up? Mine has a leak debating on going into the dealership or getting a repair kit. Not sure how good repair kits are.
Same ratio on my 2011 RT , does some nice burnouts and launches 🚀
The gears change the cars completely! Love em
Is a 3.09 limited slip for a 2015 going to fit my 2013?
@@ArulinETheKirinthis is what i was wondering
@@ArulinETheKirin waiting for answers
Thanks for information I have 2016 charger rt 5.7 you think mine is plug and play also or would I need axles im new at mods thanks
Great vid. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a used 3.09 off a hc
Thank you! You’re gonna love the new gear ratio. It made my car feel more peppy than when I installed the diablo tune
Quick Update: so I still haven’t put the 3.09 lsd in yet but got a tune yesterday on my stock 3.07 gears.. im now doing 2 wheel peels with no problem even with traction control on. Wasn’t doing that before.. I’m still going to swap 3.09s soon
Did you add oil before installing it or after,also do the axles just go in on either side,no bolts or anything?
Anytime you open the inspection cover and screw with the gears by doing whatever when pulling them out you want a break in period so the gears set properly if not already and so if there is a whining or problem with the diff you can fix it before causing to much damage.
Absolutely. Thankfully for this mod you only had to switch out the pumpkin. I put fresh oil in it and went easy on it for 500 miles.
As far as you having a little problem getting the half shafts in...Jack up the rear when your on the lift and turn the wheel till it slips in...Super easy...Took 1.5 hours literally to change
Clear information staying on point and taking the time to do it. You’re gonna do just fine kidd. Thx and MOPAR2YA 😎
Haha - glad the video was helpful. Thank you for the kind words!
@@DonnySRT just picked up the entire read cradle from a 2015 scat pack challenger last week. Was looking for 3.06 but it’s a 3.90 being it came out of a manual trans car. Its gonna be fun in my 2010 pursuit 5.7 with 140k miles on it 😂 …. For a while anyway. MOPAR2YA!
Do the 220mm bolt right into the 2.30 or do I need to buy something else besides the differential
Quick question. Have you seen changes in your 0 to 60? What times are you getting? Reinstall advice. After slipping in the axles, bolt on the drive shaft before lifting all the way up in place. When you’re one person slid under the car, this helps with getting the holes lined up.
Hey! I've really gotta upgrade my tires before I do some real testing. Other people that have done the install say that yes they have seen a better time. Also, thank you for the advice! Hopefully it helps others with their installs
Hey thanks for the vid!
And thank you for watching!
Very informative, but not a video I was looking for. But oh well.
Random shot in the dark, anyone happen to know the spline count on the cv axles where they go into the diff? Is it 32, 37 or 38; I’ve seen all 3 in my Google searches.
Got a buddy with a 17 Daytona 340 axle diameter of 220 but the link on ur description looks to be one with a 230mm axle
I have a 2015 rt charger just got it it doesnt have trck pack tho can i still put the hell cat diff on mine 3.09 geared lsd?
Hello danny plz if you can answer me my 2018 dodge charger rt have 220mm do i need to change them to 230mm and then install the 3.09 Lsd do i need something else thank you so much im following you from iraq
So I wanna do the same. Do I need to program or tune the computer in anyway
I have a 2016 rt charger as well how do I know if I have to switch out the axels
Just to recap this is a direct bolt on? No new axles? I have a 2020 r/t. This part will fit?
Will this fit my 2017 Dodge Charger RT
So what oil do I have to use now with the 3.09
damn i knew i shoulda bought the 3.09 years ago, price gone up like $300-400. my goddd
Hey man will 3.09 gears and a 230 mm rear axle work on a 2019 Dodge Charger SXT?
Did you ever find out if it worked ?
🔥🔥🏁👍 you really smoked RTdrop my 2006 SRT has open differential 306 but it’s still pretty fast my 392 really hooks up what year is that other charge the white one? Does it have insane wheel gap
The white one is a 2015 and his car is lower than mine because he has the Super Track Pack. Also, im jealous of your cars!
I have a 2018 charger rt plus super track pack can I do this ?
So for burnouts its lsd or open diff better ?
Just did my 3.09 swap, and everything drives fine. But now I hear a small squeak when I put the car into drive. Sounds like it’s coming from the back side
What gear fluid did u use ??
I can get a good deal on a used 2.62 LSD in excellent condition should I pass for a 3.09 is the 3.09 really worth it ? I own. A 2022 charger rt
Dumb question but want to make sure I have a 2020 charger rt. With the 220mm 2.62 ratio this I is a straight bolt on even though it's a230mm
it fits
Do you have to tune it?
Hey buddy i got a question. I got 2016 rt base model. Is yours the base model ?
Hey where did you get the new boot? Mine ripped
What's up bro, just wondering did you install the bracer, this go bolted to the Differential to keeping from move once you accelerate.
Thanks.
I didn't install a brace, but I do plan to in the future
Hi bro, would this exact one fit my 16'challenger R/T plus?
Yes it should
220mm is the diff gear size not axel size right ?
how many quarts of differential oil u needed?
I texted Jay greene about this and he said I would have to change the ratio in the body control module. I have a 2019 charger rt. Did you ? Have you heard of this?
Does the car need a tune after doing this mod
Do 2011-2014 chargers require a tune?
might do this on my 300S
I love a modded 300 🤟🏼🤟🏼
I swear people that be putting dislikes are weird people they’re the reason the world is the way it is. Anyways great video I like how you put the times when you speak about another subject
Thanks man! I hope you found it useful
Wasup Bro I just got my differential. And I’m about to install it this weekend. Where exactly do you put the 75/85 oil?
You you’ll notice there are two plugs with Allen key holes. The bottom one is the drain and top is fill
DonnyR/T ok, thanks man I appreciate that!
The 309 I bought from MOPAR already had gear oil in
Would this 309 work on a 06 Chrysler 300?
Hey bro! Do you mind telling how you were able to torque the 8 bolts down on the drive shaft? Were you able to torque them down to spec by hand or??? Thank you 😊
Honestly I put loctite and snugged em tight but you can use a torque wrench
Thank you!! Just ordered mine as well gonna try it myself keep up the good work bro!
Question did you get a check engine light when you put the 3.09 without tune I get 2 codes p215coo and p1d600 wondering if it’s my sensor or just me not having trans tuned yet?
No check engine light
You don't need a tune? I think 11-14 only maybe then?
Nice video, again. Can you answer me a simple question? How many RPM shows on the tach when you’re cruising at 65 mph?
Thank you. Around 1750
DonnyR/T thank you. I’ve just find another of your videos called first impressions. You have such a nice car.
I appreciate it man! Let me know if you have more questions
im late to this video , but no tune was needed ?
What to do when wheel speed mismatch after swapping rear end I did 306 gears in my RT and now car in limp mode won’t go out of 3rd gear
Pre 15 cars require a tune
How much oil did you put in?
where can i get it installed ?
There’s no tuning required once you swap the diff? Asking for a 2016 Challenger R/T plus.
Did you need trans tuning?
Will the 309 hellcat diff fit into the 2023 RT Charger? Like are the axles gonna work? Hate to buy the diff and find out my axles won't go into it. Thanks for your help. ✌
Yes
Hey! Great video! I have 22 charger rt daytona and i’m planning on switching my differential! Do we need to change the gear ratio or install any tune or anything?
Plug and play no tuning required
What gear oil should be used when you change to a lsd 3.09
I’m tryna figure out too
I looked up the limited slip differential thru your link for my car i have the same year charger rt but it says that it will fit the 230mm cv axle will it still fit the 220mm
Yes 220 will fit. If you decide on increasing hp north of 500 you'll need the 230mm axel. 300-480/90 you'll be fine
Very informative.. quick question.. I found one used but it says hellcat 3.09 LSD…. Is there a difference between all of the 3.09 diffs or are they all just plug n play?
They are plug and play for the 5.7 6.4 etc. The v6 is plugged and play but you'll need additional parts like the 5.7 axles or 392 axles then the differential of you choice.
Considering the difference in price between a pedal commander and swapping out the diffs. Do you think just getting a pedal commander will help out with getting off the line more even if it’s not as much as switching diffs? Thx bro!
No. People get hyper-fixated on the pedal commander when it doesn't actually do anything besides adjust throttle sensitivity. This is a mechanically different part
Did you do this on jack stands with the tires still on?
Yes to jack stands. Removing the tire doesn’t do anything unless you remove the hub bolt too
Can this fit on my 2017 Dodge Charger and will I need a tune for it?
Yes it can the challenger and charger shares the same platform as the Chrysler 300, but there are some parts that stay exclusively to them. The rt rear axel differential is compatible with the 392 and the models above it. You need that distribute the high power that your hemi engine produces to the rear wheels along with a compatible clutch or something that holds the power of your engine.
That exhaust sound at the end… phew…. 😎👍 what’s the set up?
For my outro, it's Borla S-types and Shorty headers. I've changed the setup since then, though
Does the 3.09 fit in a 2013 rt?
Direct swap for 2016 charger Rt ? Been seeing every forum and I’ve found mixed answers!
The RT rear axel differential is compatible to all the models that is above it or under. You need to distribute the massive power to the wheels depends on the engine you have
I feel like I'm watching the preequal to engineering explained's channel, the college years. 😁
LMAO! Ill take that as a compliment
@DonnyR/T I have a 17 Dodge Charger Daytona 5.7L will need a tune for the 3.09 lsd differential
how do you know the exact measurements of your rear axels?
I didn't measure them. I knew which ones they were based on the model of the car/build sheet.
CAN YOU DO THIS TO A 2014?
Hey Man was wondering if I could still run my rt after finding out that there was axel grease everywhere but the car only has 5,000 miles!
Get your seals repaired ASAP
Thanks man, I will taking it tomorrow
@@linares194 Np bro
@@DonnySRT exactly what did u do to fix the axel grease leakage..
I have a 2006 Chrysler 300 5.7 rwd 2.62 will this be a direct bolt on to my car or do I need axles?
I was wondering the same thing. I have a 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T and I would love to upgrade to this.
Do you know if it would fit a 2013 charger rt ?
This specific one won’t but there are options for those model years
Any RT is definitely built for its top speed after a tire & suspension check & a full tune with full exhaust upgrade then your good to go
I have the rt road and track just got my 3.09 today. Gonna get a stiffer suspension and a tune down the road but she is ready. Rts just float at high speeds cuz how high they are
Donny! I came across some Axle grease myself! It’s all over my right rear and right on top of my exhaust. What part did you get to replace the boot and where to purchase? Was it an easy fix?
Hey man, unfortunately it was a pain in the ass because I had to remove both axles from the hubs. I basically took it to a place and they installed a typical repair kit
DonnyR/T Thanks Donny! I recently lowered my car and notice the axle grease all under my car. I’ve inspected a puncture hole on the rubber. I guess it’s the CV boot. Maybe a small rock or stone hit it. I’m hoping it’s just the rubber that needs a replacement. Thanks for the response my dude! Subscribe! 🤙🤙🤙
No worries bro. Hopefully you get that worked out soon. Thanks for the sub!
Any updates ? I’ve recently ran into the same issue but I’m concerned cause the car is practically new only 5,000 miles on it but it’s a 2016! Can I still run it like this?
luis linares Yes! Luckily, I still have warranty on my car. I took it to the dealership and they inspect a puncture hole in the CV boot. They replace my rear axle shaft and installed new axle seal. Hope that helps man! Lmk fam!
So you need to have a unlocked pcm and tune for this to work or no
no
Did your brand new diff come with fluid in it I got a brand new 3.09 has fluid in it
Mine leaked all the fluid out during shipping
Will this fit on 15 sxt? Im asking cuz i wanna do 392 swap in the future
There are more parts required for this. It isn't as easy as it was on the r/t with 220mm axles
Hey whats up man,
I did the 3.09 swap and everything went well, i had trouble getting the right axle to go into the diff, but i got it to go afterall, i didnt have any problems till now, i went to the drag strip and did 2 passes, after the second pass i checked the diff and it had oil all over the right side, looks like its coming from where the axle seats with the diff. I took a pray bar and wiggled it between them and I can push the axle out a little bit. It only happens on the right side, left side seated pretty well, no leaks, play, or anything.
Hope you can help me man, I would really appreciate your help.
Thanks!
I don't think I'll be of much help, but are you able to check if the little dust shields that insert into the diff are damaged?
@@DonnySRT everything looks to be okay, i cleand it and left it seat overnight, this moring i checked it and it looked clean, no more oil, and i did drove it a bit before checking it.
When i filled the diff with oil, i had the rear of the car lifted about 1 and a half feet on the air, idk if i might have overfilled it with fluid(do you think that has soemthing to do with it?). Im gonna check the oil level, i just have to unbolt the fill bolt when the car its leveled and let the oil drain untill it stops right? Thats how ill know it has the correc amount?
Thanks for the replay!
thanks for the vid brotha, does the r/t already have the right driveshaft diameter?
I mentioned that it bolts directly in. Pretty straightforward swap
@@DonnySRT cool, i have the pursuit pacakge so its a base model sxt and they put the 5.7 hemi and 5 speed trans and driveshaft, everything else is stock sxt pretty cool
Actually, now that you mention, I am not sure if this diff will bolt up to the 5 speed trans. Something to keep in mind
@@DonnySRT ok ill probly have to match it to the same year
I have a 2021 Chrysler 300 5.7. Do you think I am able to get this diff on amd the axels fitting in with no issues? Like a plug and play?
did you get a answer?
@richardbehrie sold the car no long ago from that comment. Never really found out of it was possible.
Hello will this work on a 2018 Dodge charger R/T that is stock?
yes
I have 18 rt do I need 230 mm axels or 220?
Hey did you have to disconnect the battery to reset the tsm/pcm?
I believe that’s all I did
What kit do I need for my 2013 charger R/T? I know this one won’t fit
Yeah I’d like too know as well I have a 2012 rt and want to do a differential swap
Damn same in my 2012 charger rt
@@ReptarART
Same with my 2012 300 C , I have a 2.65 open differential with a to 215 mm rear axle any knowledge would help
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Alberto Lopez they got the kits that come with axels hubs and diff
Just did the 3.73 getrag swap into my 300c and am hitting the redline nasty on wot I set everything in my tuner as it should be set but no cigar
Hey what year is your 300? And is it awd?
@@harsimransingh7036 06 not a awd
I'm going to do this on my 08
This specific differential wont work. But I believe there are other options out there
I did this mod about 1500 miles ago, did you change your diff oil after the break in period ?
Yea
@@DonnySRT Which fluid did you go with ?
I think I used 75w85 because I couldn't find 75w90 lol
@@DonnySRT thanks
did a burnout in my 2019 rt and my differential snap time to get a lsd
Haha sorry to hear it broke, but a good time to upgrade!
Can you put a 3.09 diff on that older charger ?
My 2013 charger is also an rt so just curious if the 3.09 works on my car
No, but other differentials can work for it
@@DonnySRT but are there any other limited slip differential‘s that would fit on a 215 mm axle
How did you know the proper differential for your car?
Any of the challenger/charger Diffs from 15+ V8s will fit other 15+ V8s....the key here isn't just the 3.09 being a tiny bit better off the line (compared to the 2.62 Open) but the fact that its an LSD vs. an Open diff...
@@robcolletti i found one that says hellcat 3.09 lsd will that fit my 2015 rt? Thankz bro
@@raulamescua9487 should fit yes
Did you get a check engine light?
No
Can you put the 3.09 lsd on a 2008 R/T Charger?
This specific differential will not bolt right up in the pre-15 cars
@@DonnySRT What’s an differential you’ll recommend then? I have an 2007 but want similar gearing
Would fit in 2014 dodge charger?
Not this one
Hey what's good Im hoping I can do this mod on my Chrysler 300s AWD can I just swap that rear end for the 3.09 anyone know Thanks nice work donnyrt car looks great👍👍
Hey bro, I'm not sure you can do this upgrade on the AWD models since you have a front diff as well.
@@DonnySRT Ok cool thanks I'll do some research and if it's possible I'll share my findings with your viewers 👍👍
Let me know, I’d be glad to share any information you discover
Could you do it?