Build A Budget Commander Deck (with Commander's Quarters) Untitled Magic The Gathering Podcast #8
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Mitch in 2 years: "that cost includes commanders under 10 dollars doesn't include basic lands or *wayfarer's bauble*
well yeah, hard to get a $50 deck together with your $25 auto-include
Well as of now wayfarer's bauble costs more than sol ring
Calling in from 2022 - Wayfarer's Bauble is $.25
List to do while staying at home:
1 Do laundy
2 Start brewing my first commander deck
Thanks again Prof!!
Mehtab Rai Thanks! Already digging my cards from under my bed :)
@@irwanfaizal9558 same lol
@@irwanfaizal9558 sweet! What are your favorite colors? Me and the rest of the collective mtg community can give tips!
To begin: RAMP, always good to have it when ever possible!
Color fixing, some basic land search never hurts!
Have some form of removal, not to much though;)
I did my first as well this year and I'm doing the second, good luck
Me too! I’m building my first commander deck too!!!
Love the Commander's Quarters. Love when the mtg content creators do cross overs.
saaaame!
For real, I love their attitude towards the game
8:13 We accept your apology, Mitch.
😔😔😔
Jokes on you I have 3 copies of it
Mitch: raised the price of wayfarer's bauble
Dev: effects prerelease value of single cards on the secondary market
Josh n Jimmy: Got Paradox Engine banned
Professor: ..Merfolk
First off, there's Wayfarer's Bauble... 😂
Yooo
Yes... Of course...
Too true!
"A deck there's no commander for... like a cycling deck."
Professor you guys need to stop blatantly time traveling.
Sw00pster 😂 😂 😂
I have never been more hyped for anything ever than Gavi
@@jacfac9969 The lack of black in her identity dampens my excitement.
Florian W I too am slightly annoyed that they moved the cycling payoffs from esper to jeskai
@@Lucarioguild7 I blame Ikoria's strict wedge-focus.
I could not agree more with the statement about Cyclonic Rift in a Golos deck. This point underscores how certain "auto-include" cards really are not as universal as you might think.
That's a good point. I have Cyclonic Rift in my Jeleva Storm deck and I'm probably going to take it out now. If I exile it and am able to cast it for free well so what? It's not like I can overload it anyways.
@@Mattador666 Now that's a deck I've been wanting to build for a long time!
@@thefrozengoat It's a fun deck that can get VERY out of control if not kept in check. I can post a link to the deck if you are interested. I think I have to make it.
LOL Tell that to the Sultai players with Villainous Wealth, I laughed even more when I noticed WOTC reprinted it in the Sultai deck reassuring me of my theory ;P
Cyclonic Rift is a good card in Golos though^^. The thing you have to consider is that when you choose synergistic cards over individually powerful cards, you're making the tradeoff of being more dependent on these synergies (e.g. needing your commander). This can lead to some depressing situations, where your commander or other key engines of your deck are being disrupted or locked out by stax effects and you can't do anything. For instance, if his Golos deck relies too heavily on Golos' second ability, he might have trouble against something like Linvala or Cursed Totem (or spot removal on Golos).
Ideally, you want cards that are synergistic, but also individually powerful enough to be strong without relying on your commander. Take a Kenrith deck with Seedborn Muse for example - the synergy is so strong it wins games, but even a standalone Seedborn Muse is still a good card. The enchantment card Awakening offers the same crazy synergy, but is not powerful enough to be played individually because without an outlet the effect is symmetrical with no particular benefit for you. It's easy to get trapped by such cards and then suddenly a third of your deck becomes useless when an opponent plays a Darksteel Mutation on your Commander.
I've seen a lot of new players falling into this trap and when their decks are annihilated by a card like Imprisoned in the Moon or Praetor's Grasp or they get wiped out by Wrath of God or their commander gets countered over and over again, they complain about how unfun or broken those cards are. Nah mate, you were just building your decks wrong.
8:28 "I'm sure that guy with a warehouse full of them (Wayfarer's Bauble) is very happy with me too". Mitch, we all know you're that guy you can stop playing coy.
"No pet cards."
I'll take out my pet cards when YOU PRY THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD FINGERS
daxos can be good. DAXOS CAN BE GOOD. WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT PLAY DAXOS IN AMINATOU BLINK?
Same.
I won’t take out ambush party from every red deck I play!
Charging Badger will never, NEVER, leave my Xenagos deck
Does Etali, Primal Storm count as a pet card? I love that thing. First legendary I ever opened from a pack.
Step one: wayfarers bauble
Step two: pad out deck with 99 cards
This guy needs more credit. This man saved me so much money and end up beating all these timmies anyways. Expensive dont mean anything if you dont know how to use them or to full potential.
I took away Sensei's Divining Top, Necropotence, Chrome Mox and Demonic Tutor from my Kokusho EDH to put cards such as Cruel Entertainment, Dark Tutelage and Praetor's Grasp and Choice of Damnations in their place. I realized that good and expensive cards that go in every deck regardless of its theme are not fun at all, and raising your power level just reduces the amount of decks that you can play with fairly.
I would never copy and paste a decklist from mitch, but I will always watch his videos for budget versions of cards when im building my own deck, its great to see cards that aren't too expensive be useful in commander
I agree, his prices are verrry susceptible to going up. Even taking out the price of basic lands and commanders almost none of his decks match the price hes going for.
They said that Avengers was the most ambitious crossover ever done..
They just told the Avengers to hold my Wayfarer's Bauble and watch this...
I had asked this question on one of your videos and some guy responded with "use EDHREC lol". Good to actually have a video that outlines your process.
Thanks for inviting mah boi Mitch! I hope you invite his twin Maximilian to talk about the expense of Magic Cards next
Thanks for the content Prof, we need you more the ever right now with some commander talk
More to come!
Been watching the commanders' quarters since his first vid. He's great and I hope he gets bigger from this colab. I and my friends have cEDH, tooled EDH, and causal. He's perfect for new players to the format. Build a budget, and just add to it until you're up to a tooled good EDH level but it's fun and a process and this guy gives you a good footings.
I just pressed play but I'm expecting: "first there's wayfarer's bauble"
I just love the fact that Prof is wearing some bomb purple socks and no shoes
Loving the guest burns at the end of each episode.
Rhystic Study vs Kumenas Awakening: You don't need to get superbowl star players when you're only playing college football. As long as it meets the need of your deck, there's no need for excessive spending
Kumenas actually looks really good for that new commander Xyris that makes snakes when your opponents draw. When you reach critical mass of snakes opp. draws turn off. Me likey
There is also a political advantage. Giving initial card boost draw to everyone makes them feel less bad when it eventually gets turned off. And unlike Rhystic Study, you don't irritate players by forcing them to make a choice of paying additional mana each time they play a spell.
I play both for some of my decks that have blue
And if all else fails, just make a proxy! Unless your group hates fun that is.
Mitch, no need to justify your statements or qualify them with "sometimes" or "not every deck yada yada" just because people can get nit-picky in the comments. Save your breath and the run-time and let the trolls do what they're gonna do on the keyboard anyways! :)
If WotC is watching give Mitch the preview of the reprint Wayfarer's bauble in Commander Legends
So it's like CEDH but in the opposite direction. In CEDH you kinda do the same thing just without the price worry. Everything needs to work as efficiently as possible. Budget decks do the exact same thing. Cool stuff
I made grist the hunger tide with his 25 dollar fullart showcase alt art card for 30 total. I literally used damaged forests and swamps as part of the flavor, that my card shop was going to throw away. And ive never lost with it. I got a rings of brighthearth list copy for 2 dollars and every other card was a simple common, uncommon, or bulk insect.
Budget commander is super fun. Keeps the games much more interesting and balanced. I hosted a $50 budget tournament at my lgs and had over 20 people, more than the normal commander tournaments had at that time. Its always fun to brew new builds and not go broke or take other decks apart in the process. Great video
I have a version of Mitch's $10 Talrand deck. It's one of my favorites right now.
Focused talrand can be a beast. I had a $50 list that mopped the floor with most of my friends decks 6-7 power level the occasional 8
Thank you, Professor and Mitch, for this video! I built my first $30 deck with Lim Dûl the Necromancer because of CQ, and I was going to make a Dwarf deck until I realized there aren't many at all.
It's like WotC likes Elves and hates Dwarves. 😒
Look for Depala! Dwarves & vehicles
Marcelo Leria 7 Dwarves and Vehicles is a fun idea!
I really like to hear Mitch talk freely. While I like the content on his channel and his insights on budget deckbuilding, I find myself not liking how he narrates his videos. It always makes me feel like I watch a cheeply made commercial. This is so much better! Thanks for having him on, prof!
"Don't do that, that's going to put me out of business.... DO NOT DO THAT..." LMAO
Oh my god! 😃 Mitch is in the college! 😃
This Video is a dream come True 😃😃😃
Proffesor, you are consistently the most likeable figure in the magic scene, please keep it up.
He's just a great man and it shows. Can't possibly hate the guy!
I'm building a budget Muldrotha deck for a friend as a gift and...honestly once you've played for a while. You're shocked just how much you've got to work with.
As Seto Kaiba even I build budget decks.
I made Locust God for like $55 now its a Kykar deck worth about $400. :)
Kaiba knows how to make the most of a dollar.
People don't realize starting budget builds is the best way to know if you really like the deck or not.
I think the Commander's Quarters deck that I bought that really brought home the point about budget not being much of a thing is when I built the CQs K'rrik deck with a few of the reasonable upgrade cards. I did not know that black had so many good budget tutors! And with a deck like the K'rrik deck were you may just win in the same turn you use one of the tutors it doesn't really matter if it helps your opponents some.
- Behold the Beyond: Discard your hand to tutor for THREE CARDS.
- Demonic Collusion: Tutor for a card and buy it back by discarding two cards.
- Ill-Gotten Gains: Each player discards their hands and can tutor for any three cards out of their graveyards.
- The transmute cards are all very underrated cheap tutors especially when your wincons have the same CMC as the transmute cards.
While these may not hold a candle to the demonic or vampiric tutors these budget tutors are all still very good! K'rrik is a very good commander in his own right and is heavily relied upon to make this deck work but he became a terror in my play group. The extort triggers really do add up over time and can make the deck win out of nowhere.
I started watching Commander quarters from the beginning it makes me super happy Mitch is getting this recognition!
I've used a lot of Commander's Quarters techs and it was cool to hear the behind the scenes strategy and creativity going into those decks. Would love to see Mitch on the podcast again!
I have a lot of fun building decks from The Commander's Quarters, esp the Sram Voltron one.
The first minute is pure gold hahaha
Hey Prof, just saw your last video about your beliefs and of course this had to be the next video :) I also want everybody to enjoy every aspect of MTG and Commander Decks for about 25$ are a huge part of this for me. Those are always fun when I play with them or against them and in my LGS are lots of younger players relying on them. Thanks for giving this topic more publicity! Every player should have a budget EDH deck!
I always wanted Talrand to be a card I could put to use, but never found the time to tinker with him.
But I just saw the Talrand deck Mitch created recently for $15-ish and I fell in love immediately.
Speaks volumes when a fan of the game does a better job with casual formats than the company making pre-cons for it.
I’ve made proxy decks and it’s tons of fun. There’s one deck I specifically want to print and run. It’s a hugely interactive deck that’s kind of like a group hug deck, but it lets me get others involved when I take an action. Will of the council stuff, monarch, fact or fiction, card draw for all etc.
Otherwise, definitely, it’s fun running some of these budget decks up against each other. The only problem is that it’s hard to find budget board wipes. White has a lot of them, but black doesn’t have many, red doesn’t have many, blue has bounce which doesn’t help a lot, and green has basically nothing. That’s what we ran into when playing some of his decks against themselves. One player got ahead and just couldn’t be stopped.
I wish we had more budget board wipes.
Nev's disk might be a good option, once its been out for a turn you can always threaten the instant speed wipe, perfect for a political deck! I believe it's also under 2$
When Prof asked about cases where splurging on a more expensive card made sense, I immediately remembered the outcry when Mitch did a deck with Smothering Tithe in it.
My LGS Playgroup had an idea; use EDHREC to randomize a list of 3 commanders. Choose 1; build a deck using that commander with a budget under $25 (the cost of the commander not included) I build Hanna, Ship's Navigator deck that is currently the cheapest budget deck on EDHREC and it functions VERY well. The ironic part is, the theme fits right in with Gavi, Nest Warden.
I feel the conversation so much about finding cards for YOUR deck and not worrying about running all the staples. Even in my $550 Riku of Two Reflections deck I run a couple cards that are less than a dollar and people barely run them but they're so good. Guided Passage, Reality Scramble, and a couple others where I people look at them and will rarely consider them but my deck loves doing things with those cards.
Is this my boy Mitch?!
It is indeed.
Yes
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ you get a like because golgari
Before the end of the world, we just started an Ascention League at my LGS. You start with every card in your deck as a common, and then you can "level" one up to uncommon for each kill you get. You can eventually get to rare and mythic, but the way we were doing it that wasn't really going to happen until the next season. It was super fun and I highly recommend it. I was able to build a pretty killer Grismold deck using cards I just had lying around, thanks in part to lessons learned from Mitch. I can't wait to get back to it when things are back to normal.
Finally Mitch with prof
I like these guest spots with Mitch. When I watch "The Commander's Quarters" I have to play at 1/2 speed. When he appears over here, I can play everything normally.
Step one: Ashling the Pilgrim.
Step two: 99 Mountains.
Step 3: add $3000 worth of fast mana and snow-co mountain's
Step 4: get stomped and look cool doing it
(This is based on a true story)
@@magicalpro I just built this deck and only spent 45 bucks on 90 snow covered mountains?
opponent: has counterspell and removal
step 3: do nothing the whole game
(i know it's a joke, but I knew a guy who had a molimo deck with 99 forests, he never did anything in a game. Ever.)
Welp. I know my new commander. No Wayfarer's Bauble needed haha
@@xChikyx Well the whole point of green is big creatures, maybe if he had something like Rude Awakening and creatures like Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar could have helped him.
Honestly I was building Siona, Captain of the Pyleas and I built her straight out of my collection, as a result she’s actually NOT budget because of the size of my collection. But I noticed that she’s definitely budget friendly and gives you two easy plans of winning all by her own design. She’s one of my favorite decks now. It’s actually interesting to look at how I could include random cards like fists of ironwood because it works with her design. Of course things like anointed procession and eldrazi conscription also made it into the deck because I had them on hand, but there are plenty of cheap decently strong auras you can include to make her a budget deck, and there are even a couple enchantress type cards who can fit the budget
I finally got to use Wayfarer's Bauble in my Jeskai Spellslinger deck. I feel so accomplished now. It is a natural fit in Elsha of the Infinite. And I would not have every thought to put it in if not for Mitch's channel. Minnesota Magic Players UNITE!
"Basically I try to build a deck with win conditions." Sage advice good sir.
Loved that outro! Ask your playgroup today if proxies are right for you!
I had a fun Damia deck that was built around Recycle/Null Profusion and Flashback. The win condition was usually Army of Darkness and Psychic Spiral.
Dang, my playgroup could have really used this video last Christmas, we had a EDH budget deck white elephant and had a few weeks of just playing those. Some of them were pretty good, and some were just really bad.
What i like to do for 'budget building' is not fret to much about it ... i tend to go to pre-releases (solely) and at the end of the year i got a pile of cards, due to how standard works a portion of those cards will synergise with each other, and due to how magic works overall over say a period of 3y some of those synergy style cards will re-emerge... So what i do is just go through those 'piles' and select out the interesting cards, and i just keep those together (could become a commander deck) ... then mostly at the end of the year (Christmas) or prior to my birthday, i just go over those piles and consider a deck i would really like to build (or build towards), and then i spend a couple of evenings gathering together $15,- of cards that i find both cool, are cheap, and would go with the deck; i buy those and gift them to myself ^^ ...
Now sure, this will take some time, but in the meantime i also play more pre-releases, collect more cards, and piles grow from themselves. Heck some years i might also do a draft and due to the combination of pre-release and a draft there will be even more synergistic cards ... Now what do i play in the meantime? I play a pre-con i asked for Christmas or my birthday, learn my meta, learn how EDH works, learn what i really need for a deck (prof's vids on mana bases are great f/e), or watch TCQ and learn from him by seeing what he is doing ... Then, in say 1.5y you will have played 5~6 pre-releases, have a pre-con, maybe a boosterbox from a set or done a draft ... now christmas is coming up and you just go over the piles to see what you got, and what it wants to do, and what you find cool and try and find a commander that will support that (or at least have the colors to allow you to do so) and get some key pieces. et presto, commander deck ^^ ... and very likely a bunch of piles of 'could be in commander decks' (or commanders, due to legends picked up) ... and for your birthday you might just get some key pieces for several, or do a theme present, like all ramp cards you would ever need, or all budget utility lands ...
so many ways to use a very small budget to get pieces for budget decks (or non-budget), when you factor in the power of TIME ...
'build' decks:
- Modified Mardu Vampire Precon (because i had to have a place for my vampires from return to something, there is a Rakdos pile left ! Anje perhaps?)
- G/B elves (Because of Origins)
- Esper Artifacts (Because of Kaladesh)
- G/B 'dark forest / graveyard deck' (over several sets, minor spider theme due to commander ~ shares landbase with G/B elves)
- Current focus is on a Sultai deck with some sort of 'Mutation theme' (last couple of sets have been great !!!! and Ikoria is sure to donate some cards ^^ ).
Piles:
- Mono white Humans / Mono White Angels OR Humans & Angels (might be G/W also ?)
- Mono Red or Rakdos Goblins pile
- G/R/U Elementals Deck (because i got that Big dude twice (name alludes me atm.) in different prereleases)
- 5 color Commander pile (Wizards?)
- Mono green 'stompy', (what else to do with all those big green monsters that are in every set !)
- G/B humans (ok ok, so there is a lot of G/B, everybody got their favorites ~ only have 1 landbase though !! Due to budget restrictions and Choice to splurge because i like that combination)
- Dimir Pile
- Izzet Pile
- Probably some piles i missed as i do this off the top of my head ;)
"I'm bringing this out and my friends are going to go 'What in the world is that?'"
I get that every time a new player sees my mono-red control Starke of Rath deck and I love it!
I personally run steel hellkite in almost all my budget decks just because it can be a target removal card, a big threat cause its a 5/5 flyer, and it's like a dollar so it's easy to put in while keeping it cheap.
I think that card draw and ramp have to be sort of proportionate. If you draw a ridiculous amount of cards, you need to be able to play them.
Like with Korvald, you draw a stupid amount of cards, and if you keep drawing them, you need to cast some of them.
Okay, so here is my deck list:
Commander(s): Korvald, Fae Cursed King
Mana Ramp (17):
-Paradise Druid
-Farseek
-Tishana’s Wayfinder
-Elvish Rejuvenator
-Ranging Raptors
-New Horizons
-Seedguide Ash
-Sol Ring
-Arcane Signet
-Hedron Crawler
-Prismatic Lens
-Chromatic Lantern
-Obelisk of Jund
-Manalith
-Worn Powerstone
-Firemind Vessel
-Gilded Lotus
Ramp/Sac (3):
-Oashra Cultivator
-Infernal Plunge
-Priest of Forgotten Gods
Card Draw (4):
-Forever Young
-Stormfist Crusader
-Colossal Majesty
-Moldervine Reclamation
Card Draw/Sac (5):
-Evolutionary Leap
-Verdant Rebirth
-Krav, The Unredeemed
-Guild Globe
-Scroll of Avacyn
Token Creation (10):
-Grim Initiate
-Dragon Fodder
-Krenko’s Command
-Dreadhorde Invasion
-Orzhov Enforcer
-Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin
-Hordeling Outburst
-Angrath, Captain of Chaos
-Rapacious Dragon
-Wolf’s Quarry
Sacrifice (7):
-Witch’s Oven
-Viscera Seer
-Altar of Dementia
-Fling
-Whisper, Blood Liturgist
-Chittering Witch
-Carrion Feeder
Removal (9):
-Return to Nature
-Goblin Cratermaker
-Retributive Wand
-Bleeding Edge
-Vindictive Vampire
-Ugin The Ineffable
-Butcher of Malakir
-Thorn Mammoth
-Deathsprout
Pingers (4):
-Judith, The Scourge Diva
-Mayhem Devil
-Revenge of Ravens
-Syr Konrad, The Grim
Graveyard Recursion (2):
-Golgari Findbroker
-Find/Finality (Finality also works as a board wipe)
Defender/Attackers(2):
-Abyssal Persecutor
-Questing Beast
MANABASE (37):
4x Mountains
7x Forests
9x Swamps
Witches Cottage
Castle Embreth
Gateway Plaza
Command Tower
Terramorphic Expanse
Evolving Wilds
Emergence Zone
Cryptic Caves
Stomping Grounds
Gruul Guildgate
Rugged Highlands
Golgari Guildgate
Temple of Malady
Jungle Hollow
Bloodfell Caves
Rakdos Guildgate
A card I love in Korvold is Shivan Harvest. 1R, Enchantment, pay 1R and sacrifice a creature: Destroy target non-basic land.
Speaking from the perspective of someone who buys a lot of commander products and someone who has also built Mitch's Jhoira build, Mitch's decks and the precons are not comparable, they are designed to exist in different environments. The Jhoira deck (which has had a couple of modest upgrades) can hang with 8s and 9s, the precons obviously can't but they are not designed to. They're designed as a semi closed environment that are still capable of sitting at a table with built decks while still being friendly enough for new players to get their feet wet with. Mitch's decks (generally) need to be piloted.
The precons are toyboxes, Mitch's decks are toolboxes.
Yes! More budget kitchen table options! Glad to see my request got realized :)
I find it hard to believe that those chairs in Mitch’s office are six feet apart.
As someone who also builds budget decks on the semi-regular its interesting to see how similar my mentality and process is to CCs. Although the tools and thus the methods differ a bit someone over here in Europe. At the very least I can still include Wayfarer's Bauble.
Prof + Mitch, a match made in heaven.
Thanks for a great compilation video. Also, Mitch looks like his other job is shaping surfboards.
One of my personal favorite things is to find the uncommon rarity commanders and seeing what I can do. Possibly one of the biggest surprises I can get is when I throw down my Syr Feron deck and basically have someone dead to rights by turn 5 because it's just full of dumb swinging things and a lot of Giant Growth type instants.
As mentioned in a separate video’s comment, I would never fault Mitch nor any1 else for pushing “basic needs” till their prices inflate.
I m-i-g-h-t however fault some others who needlessly push well-known good stuffs like Cyclonic Rift & Vedalken Orrery from already inflated prices into ridiculously, painfully expensive prices.
cough-cough commandzone cough-cough
If only Vedalken Orrery was actually that good in most decks. While having flash on anything is good it's usually just a do nothing card for 4 mana that baits removal :S
@Jlitzy Gaming
Honestly speaking, they’re tryin so hard (intentionally? unintentionally?) over so long that I’m very very sparing with my Likes on their videos nowadays. Some folks do that repeated, banging-away thing for comedy effect but this is not funny anymore.
Never happens for Prof’s content. Always Liked, always
Recently found a shop that has commander games and events.
Talked to the owner and one of his gamekeepers, they seem nice enough, both of them using words like "casual" and "fun" while talking about their friday night commander games/tournaments.
Fast forward two weeks- i have put together a primal surge deck with Svella the ice shaper as commander.
Lacking the best mana and card ramp for sure, but the fact I have some graveyard recycling and steam vines in there+ Ramunap excavator makes me smile.
I sit down to a "friendly" game with three other dudes I don't know.
Immediately, the guy across from me opens with an Esper Sentinel, I am pumping out tokens as soon as I can, but nobody else is paying 1, and he is smiling from ear to ear because every round he has basically drawn at least 2-3 cards.
His deck is Kaalia of the vast, and he had been dropping tri lands, and heavy hitting angels that are indestructible.
He pretty much mops the board with everyone.
It wasn't fun, i didn't get to even lignify one of the angels, much less deal with Kaalia.
Words like "fun" and casual" don't belong in a game against decks that probably cost $750+ minimum.
How is a multi player game" fun" if the only "fun" cards for a group scenario are unplayable?
They're too expensive (converted mana cost), and slow and I will hazard a guess that this sugar daddy and his Kaalia of the vast demon/dragon/angel deck are not the only ones crammed to the last with competitive single mana drops...
The owner of the store is nice, but he will never put a price limit, because he absolutely adores the sugar daddies that go in and buy the best cards as soon as they're available.
Other players who walk in with a budget deck are just punching bags and there is no way of winning...
How is that fun?
PS: vigour is not a budget card 🤣
Not even a year ago was it a budget card🤣🤣🤣 i wanted to buy it last year and found it for $64 AUD...even converted to USD that's not a budget card...🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean it is a casual format. I've experienced that too when I got into commander about a year ago but you basically just don't play with the guy is the answer. I've made a nice group of friends in an LGS after kinda just jumping the gun and playing with random people. I've met a dude that basically always pub stomps casual groups and same as you he just kept dropping bombs every turn and he's kind of a salty winner where he'd shit talk and stuff which feels bad) but yeah you just basically be an adult and just avoid the player really and eventually you'd find the group you'd mesh with
it's not up to a store owner to do that nor is it in his best interest. this should be part of your rule 0 discussion. explain that you're on a budget and see if they have something lower power level
Mitch is always such a great guest
i have an Isperia the Inscrutable deck that i love for the same reason you love Skeleton Ship, it's a fun synergistic deck that no one expects to ever see
One way to stop drawing in Gitrog Monster is Underrealm Lich because it has a replacement effect for drawing cards.
Back at it with the consistent uploads as always. You’re too good for us Prof.
I do what I can :)
@@TolarianCommunityCollege you are awesome love the videos
I really like Mitch he helped in theorizing my budget brago. I watched and learned a lot of really unique ideas.
there's also gaea's blessing, which can shuffle your graveyard in your deck if you mill it
How to Build a Budget EDH Deck
Step one: First off there's Wayfarer's Bauble
Chemistry between the two was legit. Great podcast. Thanks guys!
Yes we appreciated the wayfarer's bauble apology 🤣 BUT..... How many people were even aware of this particular bauble before commanders quarters was a thing?! We really should be thanking Mitch! 👍😊
Love all the content on both of your channels, keep up the excellent work guys! On the subject of budget tutors I find myself using Wishclaw Talisman a lot. I like using it as a political tool, I'll usually end up asking the player who's the most behind at the table that if I give them the talisman if they'll give it back after they use it. I almost always get a yes from them and if i don't someone at the table will usually agree
RE: Vindicate VS Anguished Unmaking. Unmaking is a much, much better card in my opinion anyway. Exiling is super relevant, and being an instant even more. In my opinion, if you're to play spot removal, it has to be instants, as timing is extremely important in multiplayer, not only for breaking combos, but also just to be able to wait and see if it's you they're attacking. Possibly the best instant of that color pair, it's simply a steal at 4 bucks. Destroying lands is nice, but not nearly as important, and to cover that base, you're supposed to be playing colorless lands that have that ability anyway (at instant speed to boot).
I buy Chinese facsimiles (copies) so I jam every deck with Cyclonic Rift, ABUR duals, fetch lands, Teferi's Protection, Gaea's Cradle and so on. Because I can. You would too if you had access to these cards. I have Timetwister in 3 decks and even Bazaar of Baghdad in a deck (Anje).
Great guest! I love his budget decks
I love how Mitch has bought like a few hundred of them it was 50p in the uk now it’s £3.58 thanks mitch
I think a budget is cool but you should always have a commander you connect with no matter. And all the other cards can be expendable. I started a dragon deck when I started playing and have refined it alot but always kept the commander dragon I love. Yea I think that's a good way to 0 rule make sure everyone is on the same budget
Built a Zombie deck, Ebondeath as Commander...Now Sheoldred is the Capt.She not a zombie,but stronger
Whenever I'm reminded of the price point of Sol Ring, I feel bad about having so many copies that I'm not using.
So obviously I need to build more EDH decks.
Lol
Someone please make a video out of Mitch's "Yup!" and the Prof's wiggly foot. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Thank you.
in this vid you talk about shufflers in a gitrog deck id like to point out loaming shaman it works in a different way but you can reshuffle your entire graveyard into your deck with a 10 cent card
Heck yeah another video ty prof. Hope your safe and doing well
The defender of the people and the defender of our wallets team up in the most ambitious crossover since the Avengers.
I used to have a lot of $50 budget decks, and I did pretty well. Jhoira with budget land destruction, Etc like 50 decks. My favorite is probably Seton Druid tribal with Gilt-Leaf Archdruid and animating lands XD
Skeleton Ship, the ultimate budget commander
I think this is my favorite magic podcast now
With MTG I love that theres so much budget advice and in the back of my mind I know that over time even after transitioning to having a bigger and more expensive collection, budgeting is just plain and simple fundamentals that only a billionaire shouldn't worry about. And even then, how do you think they got there
I keep coming back to this video
need more like this! 🙏🙏🙏
2 of my favorite personalities in one video. Thanks Prof and Mitch!
lol take a shot everytime mitch says mhm yeah a hundred percent when prof is talking let me know how long you last.
I have literally one commander deck, that i built from the only legendary creature i had at the time when i first learned about commander. The way I've kept it competitive while still being cheap and able to use some of the random cards I already own is most importantly play style. I play very defensively, and pack my deck with answers, this allows me to stay in a game of heavy hitters long enough to steal the win at the end. Every single move in a game of commander is a political move. You'd be surprised how good black cat can be. It provides a bit of fear for your opponents, they dont want to attack you because they could lose a card they really want, they don't want to remove it because they could lose a card, and its a complete waste of good removal. So it just sits there, turn after turn, in front of 3 untapped mana, single handedly holding down the fort, with just the tiniest bit of deterrence. Many people play multiplayer like its single player with some added bells and whistles, those are the people with high lose rates, multiplayer is a completely different game. Sometimes, just not playing your spells and wasting your mana or not swinging with creatures is the right move
for the budget gitrog deck you could use darksteel colossus instead of dread or vigor, only $2 more and gives you the same effect as the eldrazi titans and blightseel colossus