The new 2024 Epic 8 is very similar to the old 2023 Epic EVO. The new 2024 Epic 8 Evo pushes the Epic line into the Trailbike category and definitely pushes into Stumpjumper territory. I'm guessing that the next Stumpy will become a 135/150mm travel bike and will eliminate the single pivot flex stay suspension and return to the Horst Link suspension.
@@GuyKesTV They could just combine both bikes and make a 140/160mm travel bike. I'm no fan of mid-travel trailbikes. Either go Downcountry or go All-Mountain.
Recently bought the ‘23 epic Evo while it was 40% off. Man, it is a helluva bike. I can’t believe how light and fast it is on climbs and how fun it is going downhill.
Told my dealer 2 weeks ago I wanted a s-works frameset, lets just hope they are prepared and have some bikes in stock. Dont wanna wait until summer to get one... EDIT: Confirmed, no frames available until june/july... Time to sell some stuff, and get the full bike instead, if its not out of stock already...
I could see the epic 8 with a new mattoc up front. Up to 100 grams lighter than the fox 34 and the travel is easily changed between 110-150mm with xc parts everywhere else.
Great review Guy! Thank you. What do you think about sizing? I can see you have tested size L frames, could you tell me if for 5’10 height would you got for M or L size? Thank you
It's really hard to compare Hardtail geometry as while it might look similar on paper there's no rear wheel sag / compression. So while front end feel will be similar on flatter/smoother terrain a hardtail will generally feel steeper on steeper descents / rougher terrain
I have a 2022 epic evo pro. Is the new epic a real upgrade or wouldn't I feel the difference? I've heard is way more stable and capable but I fear it is all marketing bull...
Comparing your Epic Evo to new Epic is pretty much like for like in terms of head angle. The reach is longer on the new bike and the seat angle is steeper. It feels a bit sharper through the pedals and stiffer overall too and you’ve got internal storage. It’s heavier though. Comparing your epic Evo to new Epic Evo is basically same as above but with a longer fork, bigger brakes and chunkier tyres. That does make it feel more confident on the trail but it’s a lot heavier as a result. In other words ‘way more’ is definiutely overstating it and you did the right thing buying the 22 Epic Evo not the 22 Epic as that is definitely ‘way less’ capable / stable. Hope that helps
@@GuyKesTV perfect, thank you. And yes, I felt I was "future proofing" by buying the Evo. The launch of Scott Spark, specifically, and the way the XC was getting more aggressive in general, suggested that was the right buy. Guess I'll skip this generation and invest in a second, burlier bike instead of upgrading. Keep up the good work, big fan of your content. Cheers!
@@Mardegente2024 I have a 2023 epic evo pro, and after much thought - I'm not upgrading - I'm sure the 8 is amazing, but Im thinking it is incremental. I'll wait it out and save for the s works :)
So they took the "old" Evo, added a SWAT door and rebranded it as Epic? Then added 10mm extra on the fork and voila - here is the new Evo! The biggest change is the price!
Neither. Just get a Canyon Lux World Cup CFR. So much more value for money. Don't have to pretend that you like the unnecessary electronic components to try and justify the price as well.
The new 2024 Epic 8 is very similar to the old 2023 Epic EVO.
The new 2024 Epic 8 Evo pushes the Epic line into the Trailbike category and definitely pushes into Stumpjumper territory.
I'm guessing that the next Stumpy will become a 135/150mm travel bike and will eliminate the single pivot flex stay suspension and return to the Horst Link suspension.
That would be the logical move, but it'll be interesting to see how far they push the Stumpjumper into Stumpjumper Evo territory
Agreed. Stumpy will be going up in travel for sure
@@GuyKesTV They could just combine both bikes and make a 140/160mm travel bike. I'm no fan of mid-travel trailbikes. Either go Downcountry or go All-Mountain.
Recently bought the ‘23 epic Evo while it was 40% off. Man, it is a helluva bike. I can’t believe how light and fast it is on climbs and how fun it is going downhill.
Yeah great choice as it's basically just the new Epic without storage and not as long in reach. It's still a benchmark bike though for sure
Does the 23 epic evo not have the brain suspension?
@@jamesgoin2726 evo ‘23 does not have the brain suspension
Told my dealer 2 weeks ago I wanted a s-works frameset, lets just hope they are prepared and have some bikes in stock. Dont wanna wait until summer to get one... EDIT: Confirmed, no frames available until june/july... Time to sell some stuff, and get the full bike instead, if its not out of stock already...
The Evo sounds like the perfect successor to my Orange Four
Very similar insolent 'all fork and few regrets' vibe
Me very happy with my upgraded Chisel 😂😃 but honestly I wish I can get one of those in the future 😅
I miss my Chisel so much. Hang onto that bike whatever you buy next
My Chisel is built up to right at 22lbs…killer bike.
The S-Works Epic is fantastic!
Yeah they knocked it out of the park with that one
You do a great job!
Thanks mate
I could see the epic 8 with a new mattoc up front. Up to 100 grams lighter than the fox 34 and the travel is easily changed between 110-150mm with xc parts everywhere else.
Great review Guy! Thank you. What do you think about sizing? I can see you have tested size L frames, could you tell me if for 5’10 height would you got for M or L size? Thank you
Cheers Jarek, You’re the same height as me so I’d go large
@@GuyKesTV thank you for your help. All the best!
@@funLad80 no problem mate, enjoy your riding and tell your friends about the channel 🤘🏻
Scott Spark RC or Epic 8 ?? Which one I choose I prefer plusher bike. Thanks
How would you say the geo compares to a downcountry hardtail like the Cotic Solaris/Solaris Max?
It's really hard to compare Hardtail geometry as while it might look similar on paper there's no rear wheel sag / compression. So while front end feel will be similar on flatter/smoother terrain a hardtail will generally feel steeper on steeper descents / rougher terrain
Hey Guy, how many chargers come with the bike?Thx for the review!
Sorry boss, I don’t actually know as I got a press sample but I’ll check with Spesh. Hopefully you get one of those 4 block ones with the S-Works!
Sorry! The specialized Epic 8(white)? Buy?ship to VN?
I have a 2022 epic evo pro. Is the new epic a real upgrade or wouldn't I feel the difference? I've heard is way more stable and capable but I fear it is all marketing bull...
Comparing your Epic Evo to new Epic is pretty much like for like in terms of head angle. The reach is longer on the new bike and the seat angle is steeper. It feels a bit sharper through the pedals and stiffer overall too and you’ve got internal storage. It’s heavier though. Comparing your epic Evo to new Epic Evo is basically same as above but with a longer fork, bigger brakes and chunkier tyres. That does make it feel more confident on the trail but it’s a lot heavier as a result. In other words ‘way more’ is definiutely overstating it and you did the right thing buying the 22 Epic Evo not the 22 Epic as that is definitely ‘way less’ capable / stable. Hope that helps
@@GuyKesTV perfect, thank you. And yes, I felt I was "future proofing" by buying the Evo. The launch of Scott Spark, specifically, and the way the XC was getting more aggressive in general, suggested that was the right buy. Guess I'll skip this generation and invest in a second, burlier bike instead of upgrading. Keep up the good work, big fan of your content. Cheers!
@@Mardegente2024 if you want to keep things Specialized, wait a couple of months 🤫
Ah ah ah…I think I know what you mean
@@Mardegente2024 I have a 2023 epic evo pro, and after much thought - I'm not upgrading - I'm sure the 8 is amazing, but Im thinking it is incremental. I'll wait it out and save for the s works :)
Let me help you all make a decision 😂. Buy a Scott Spark 910. 😂😂😂👊🏻
Or the 900 tuned:)
Sworks Epic. "drool"
So they took the "old" Evo, added a SWAT door and rebranded it as Epic? Then added 10mm extra on the fork and voila - here is the new Evo! The biggest change is the price!
Yes better value this time around, last years expert was £250 more
Not really.
Ugh it’s just the evo color…levo Sl way cooler
It is a bit of a weird one eh? Especially with the greasy brown bits
@@GuyKesTV brown bits r rad! Haha
Neither. Just get a Canyon Lux World Cup CFR. So much more value for money. Don't have to pretend that you like the unnecessary electronic components to try and justify the price as well.