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Flamu have you considered the fact that the Black is only 14k steel and the Neustrashimy is 20k steel, while both will probably be 200k coal. "The Black is cheap".
I never considered the Black OP when you consider that German hydro on their DDs is only 1.5 km less range and last way longer. And Black torps are really bad. 7 km means that a DD can run out of your radar range in matter of seconds, unless they are well within your concealment range.
VuHien2011 Only Z-52 gets the full 6km German hydro, Z-46 has the standard 5km. That 2.5km difference is really significant for crossing the concealment range of several noteworthy DDs.
@@ShawFujikawa even with 5 km range hydro, it takes no time for a Z46 to close the gap between his concealment and the distance where he can hydro you back
@@LawL_LawL haku can't really kill smolensk with ap bombs cause you usually get over pen,I have played the smolensk for 50+ games and I never get citedal
You can't rely on teammates to do anything. I lost count how many times I've risked my Des Moines at the cap, radar'd a bunch of DDs, but nobody is shooting them except me. Everyone is shooting at the Yamato 18km away instead of the DDs 10km away from them.
He meant he only got the Kraken achievement (which he certainly considers good), but not Confederate or High Caliber or even a Devastating Strike, so in terms of impressive games, it doesn't rank that high. Not that Kraken isn't impressive to get.
took me 2 years of playing to save the steel and when i first got the black i was pretty underwhelmed. its a powerful ship in the right situations, def a good support ship but if you get caught out on your own your pretty much stuffed.
@@happyblt624 had the black for a few years before the Ragnar came into the game. Was pointing out that it was fairly underwhelming for a ship that took so long to get. That being said steel is much much easier to get these days so less of an issue
So now the ships will be avaible for 296k coal, will it be worth it? I was actually thinking to get the marcau when this came back. So what will be the most fun and best buy? Many people don't like the marcau and say is not great because of the bad concealment and not great for clan battle and other games... But they do like the black .... And the radar plus smoke looks great... And I'm wondering which one will be the best to be competing in... Also considering that I'm.dont have premium so that makes it a lot harder to earn the credits.
Is DFAA and default ship AA all basically useless now? Been a while since I’ve played. I always thought WG never realized the Fletcher’s 5 inch are dual purpose guns and can actually shoot down planes.
I have to admit, reading through the comments and seeing the number of people saying its a poor ship and you cant hit anything with torps, really does help explain why some teams are rolled over so easily. If you cannot have great battles in an OP ship like the Black then what ships do you play?
I agree on most but I run a different build - I ditched TA and RPF for BFT and TAE, than I ditched SI for PM and AR. I spam sea mines in general enemy direction, have better gun DPM. RPF would be useful but you don't really need it cause Black has good concealment while you can always smoke plus radar. 3 radars are usually enough to kill all enemy DDs.
I was hesitant to get this ship given the meta, I held back. I will now wait and see if it come back as coal ship , then il buy her. thanks for the review.
I remember The Black use to be very impressive especially the AA. 2 Blacks and a Shima division wipe the board that had 2 carriers. Now she has dust blowing out her stacks.
The Neustrashimy is a better DD hunter than the Black, with it’s better concealment and ability to dive in toe to toe. Torps are more reliable and guns are more useful at range. If it wasn’t for the price tag difference, Neustrashimy would be the clear choice
Black torp tip: go to somewhere crowded (aka lemming) and just torp randomly into them, someone will take it eventually and before the torp hit you can send another set. Rinse and repeat until you ask yourself how the hell your torp hit?
I love mine. 100% torpedo reload and WIDE spreads are my secret to victory. 59% winrate over 92 games. You don't play the Black to do damage. You play the black to win games. if you don't understand the difference then the Black will be difficult for you. Always be spamming those torps to where the enemy might go. No you won't get a fantastic hit rate, mine is 3.8%, but what you will do is herd the enemy team. Randoms don't like having torps going past them on both sides, they'll hang back further or even turn and run. Wide spreads are great for getting that random torp hit on the unspotted enemy DD, Zao, or Minotaur. Forget the guns, use them if you have to, spot for your team and put yourself in position to make the enemy have to at least worry about your torpedoes.
Hey Flamu , I know it's not related to this video, but maybe you also got an opinion on WGs current german ship politic. Would like a video about the nerfed Odin or the kinda useless Ägir. Really disappointed about the ships I really wanted to buy/achieve. :/
Has anyone ever noticed that the Black is not rendered correctly in this game? Being a later Fletcher class, it was not built with the high bridge structure of the early Fletcher s. (my Favorite version) It should look like the Kidd, also a later Fletcher. Wonder why they did this. Either way, saving up for a Somers so not getting this one.
Hi Flamu, I love your vids but how do you get your display setting so nice and how do you get above the 75FPS cap? Am I missing something in my settings or is this a mod? Raytracing maybe? Tell me plz, the water looks soooo nice!
A question by a not much of an experienced player (yet): Why to choose Black over the Pan Asian dds? I mean don't they have radar too? If am not mistaken. Plus on top of that about 0,8 km concealment torps too, just like the Black's, but they r also faster? Sure you can't hit dds with them, but you have guns + radar against them right? Can't they be good dd hunters especially under pressure? Isn't their guns dpm ok - ish? I ve heard that the tier ix - X Pan asian dds have been nerfed, but aren't they still good enough? Aren't they pretty much as good as the Black, if not better?
You have to understand that its the combination of smoke and radar. PA DDs only have a choice of smoke OR radar, just like UK CLs. This makes these ships very hard to disengage with. Another example is German DDs with their smoke + hydro. Hydro alone will do you good but the smoke takes it to a whole new level. Hope this helps, im not too experienced either but i do play German DDs and UK CLs so i kind of have a basic understanding of this
@@cannavaras you can hide behind island and use radar if you don't have smoke. Plus Black has much slower torps. You won't gonna hit enemy dds unless they r super noobs
@@Star-gt9hz but that's not an answer to your question? And shooting over an island while using my a 7k radar? Really? You asked why choose black over a Pan Asian. They do have radar but only if they give up the smoke..that's why you choose the Black over the PA.
Its the first steel ship I bought back last year (for something like 11k steel with 25% discount I guess) and I still regret it, at that time I needed to get my first t9 dd for ranked and I chose Black like I could got it immediately, but that wasn’t a good idea and still is now, specialy now that coal will replace steel for the purchase... such more easy to stockpile coal. Got some decent games and also use 48knts torps, but overall his radar doesn’t worth all lacks he has (like lack of speed, same for Jutland, I hate slow DDs), definitely not one of my favourite t9s. GG btw, with such a shy team, it wasn’t guaranteed to be a win. WP 👍
Glorfinder 1992 I don’t remember numbers of season tbh... actually it’s 15th one ? Then no probably the last with t9 before that. If I remember correctly I got my Black around Augustus or September 2019. Maybe the 13th there not sure. But yeah, for ranked it was definitely a good option 👍 Although, overall, taking count of cost in steel, despite being good for ranked, it wasn’t worthy. Should have played it only with t9 cruisers and BBs I had at that time, and continue to stockpile steel for Stalingrad or Bourgogne... I would have both since months now then.
Flamu, you forgot to mention Black has one of the most powerfull perma camos in the game (if not the best among all of the available ones) +150% XP, 150% commander XP and 150% free XP... thats obviously if the player got rank 1 three times in ranked
I'd keep saving for one of the t10 steel ships if I were you. If you're wanting a dd, the somers fits in the current meta a lot better. Im a BB main and got Bourgogne first, currently just 351 steel short of Stalingrad.
I wanted black for a long time since it was a ranked reward.. i got it past summer and hugely regret it. not because it is not good or fun, but because i did not have any of staligrad or bourgogne. Going for it as first choice isnt smart really. there is no way you dont want/need any of the most expensive steel ships. Also i want to mention that even if i have great success with dd's i rarely play any nowdays because of cv's. It is time for wargaming to realise that cv's need some cooldown between attacks. I can live radar/hydro/dpm/burst but that thing flying above your head before you even reach objectives forces players to selfish gameplay or poor decisions and is really unreasonable. by the way.. what about the players who spent to steel to get it? isnt it somewhat unfair that you will be able to get it with coal?
Hey Flamu, can you do a Kidd commentary soon? I'm curious how good it is at the moment considering that it has a good AA suite as well as the Fletcher's guns at Tier 8.
As the ship was remove from ranks reward because same CC was bitching about ... was add it for steal because of same CC . The 26 sec radar is not worth the steal... sounds Familiar Flamass?
I like it, fun ship but Fletcher has always been a fav. But if they remove it and add it for coal later i want some kind of refund >:( Steel is so much harder to earn.
Fletcher is the cheapest T9 steel/coal ship. I really doubt the coal price will be a better deal. You got the benefit of obtaining her much earlier anyway and the conditions of sale were clear when you bought her. I don't see why you should feel entitled to a refund.
@@Catcrumbs the conditions of the same were NOT clear. The ship was sold only for the most valuable resource in the game. There was no warning or inclination that one day it might be sold for coal, an easily earnable resource.
@derek96720 Exchange 14 000 steel, receive Black (plus a slot and 3-point captain): that's exactly what was offered and exactly what those who bought with steel got. I don't believe it was ever promised that Black would never be available by any other means and indeed, she was initially made available as a guaranteed reward for ranking out 5 times. I didn't hear any of the players who obtained her that way complaining that they ought to be entitled to some kind of refund for their efforts when she went on sale for Steel. There has most certainly has been a warning that Black will be one day available in exchange for coal. That's what prompted Flamu to make this video. In any case, I find that steel is more easily obtained than coal. I play in a clan that can't be relied upon to make it out of Storm and by the end of this CB season I will very nearly have enough to buy all available steel ships. When it comes to coal, despite picking the 'More Resources' container at every opportunity, I am some distance from obtaining enough to buy all coal ships.
When the XP difference with number 2 is more than over half the team is able to earn, hard to tell if one needs to laugh or cry about it. Did buy the Black and firmly regret it, it`s a good asset in ranked, otherwise boring to play. Did enjoy the show though.
@@thelvadam2884 lol balanced games can make a lot of money. Dota 2 had a 27 million dollar prize pool. Imagine if warships was balanced it might have some chances in esports. The revenue generated from battle pass is crazy if they can fork 27 million dollars in 4 mts
I'd have to so no at this point. Black is a classic victim of powercreep. If I could go back to when I got her, I would've gotten Nuestrashimy instead.
You know what kinda bugs me about wow now a days. Just played a match in ranked where 5 of th 7 enemy ships dropped a smoke screen. You know how frustrating it is to have fire training down from 5 smoke screens and zero ability to attack back?
You can fire back into smoke. Practice it. Seriously, i have spent 8 weeks training and I am now hitting 60% of the time when blind firing. Flamu has some good tutorials on it, and use the training room.
@@mwnciboo oh i do fire back. im probably around 10% hits though, and it doesnt make it any easier when you get focuse fired at AND have to dodge potential torpedo spreads. plus its much harder to blind fire with a bb then a cruiser or a dd. your rate of fire is so low that they have a chance to move. i would much rather have smoke screens exclusively a dd thing rather then half the cruisers too. soon we'll have a soviet primium bb with a smoke screen :D
It’s the calm waters / calm weather mod. You can get it in aslains mod pack it’s one of the options you can choose or install it separately. Unfortunately it’s not in WG’s mod station yet but I hope it makes its way over there.
32200 dmg dealt to Schchors. So you were literally the only one dealing damage to him even though he was spotted with 4k HP for several minutes. The amount of potatoes in this game that can't focus fire and help finishing off low HP targets is really saddening.
Is the Black worth the steal? This was the most boring game Flamu has uploaded in ages! And that has nothing to do with Flamu. This ship seems so boring I wouldnt play it if I got it for free and def not waste my hard earned steel on it.
The torps are more of an area denial tool.. Torp a corner you expect a radar cruiser or smoke cruiser.. They see the torps and have to wait for them to pass.. So adding more speed in cost of range isnt worth it.. These torps are fire and forget
I will have to stop watching replays as the teams play makes me stupider every goddamn time! I currently cannot tie my laces anymore and have cravings for crayons
Dear Flamu Seriously mate you should reconsider going to Thailand atm. The cov-19 pandemic is not a joke and Thailand is right in the middle of multiple clusters. They have cases there in Thailand.
The Black had a super unique feature when it came out, radar on a DD. Now you have an entire line, the Pan-EU DDs, capable of doing the same. It's a good ship, but not worth the most valuable resource.
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Uh Flolo? They removed radar from the Pan-EU DDs
Video posted half and hour ago but Flolo's comment is 1 day old?
Flamu how does your water look so purdy
@@MikeLowell93 Calm waters mod from aslains mod pack.
Flamu have you considered the fact that the Black is only 14k steel and the Neustrashimy is 20k steel, while both will probably be 200k coal. "The Black is cheap".
Player whine about the Black.
WG: Add 25 other OP ships.
WG: Problem solved.
Shhhhh! They'll start getting ideas about the smolensk
I never considered the Black OP when you consider that German hydro on their DDs is only 1.5 km less range and last way longer. And Black torps are really bad. 7 km means that a DD can run out of your radar range in matter of seconds, unless they are well within your concealment range.
Problem solved sir!
VuHien2011 Only Z-52 gets the full 6km German hydro, Z-46 has the standard 5km. That 2.5km difference is really significant for crossing the concealment range of several noteworthy DDs.
@@ShawFujikawa even with 5 km range hydro, it takes no time for a Z46 to close the gap between his concealment and the distance where he can hydro you back
"...The USS BALAK"
Create a problem: Midway and Hakryuyu
Sell the solution: Smolensk
Should be reversed, CVs dumpster Smolensk, and Haku can kill a Smolensk from full HP in 2 drops with AP bombs.
LawL that’s kinda true actually.
@@LawL_LawL haku can't really kill smolensk with ap bombs cause you usually get over pen,I have played the smolensk for 50+ games and I never get citedal
I love how no one focused Schors after the torp hit 🙄
You can't rely on teammates to do anything. I lost count how many times I've risked my Des Moines at the cap, radar'd a bunch of DDs, but nobody is shooting them except me. Everyone is shooting at the Yamato 18km away instead of the DDs 10km away from them.
Neil Stevens the Nelson was right behind him at same 13 km range from Schors
"Only a kraken, not that impressive"
lol never change flamu
He meant he only got the Kraken achievement (which he certainly considers good), but not Confederate or High Caliber or even a Devastating Strike, so in terms of impressive games, it doesn't rank that high. Not that Kraken isn't impressive to get.
Humble creep guy
@@UnintentionalSubmarine he meant that 127k dmg is not impressive...
yugoto - new premium 20" guns destroyer
and with 1 sec reload :D
Doesn't sound very Russian to me....
then maybe the name should be yugotov? :D
took me 2 years of playing to save the steel and when i first got the black i was pretty underwhelmed. its a powerful ship in the right situations, def a good support ship but if you get caught out on your own your pretty much stuffed.
just get a ragnar now that u saved the steel for another two years
@@happyblt624 had the black for a few years before the Ragnar came into the game. Was pointing out that it was fairly underwhelming for a ship that took so long to get.
That being said steel is much much easier to get these days so less of an issue
Have it. I've have some great games in it, but it's so similar I wish I had my steel back and I'll just play Fletcher instead.
Flamu’s English is so good I swear he’s actually from Leeds and just put in the accent
I chuckle every time Flamu says speed boost cause it reminds me of the old spood beast meme
So now the ships will be avaible for 296k coal, will it be worth it? I was actually thinking to get the marcau when this came back. So what will be the most fun and best buy? Many people don't like the marcau and say is not great because of the bad concealment and not great for clan battle and other games... But they do like the black .... And the radar plus smoke looks great... And I'm wondering which one will be the best to be competing in... Also considering that I'm.dont have premium so that makes it a lot harder to earn the credits.
Proliferation of t10 radar has nerfed the shit out of it. Same thing has happened to the z-46 and 52.
Is DFAA and default ship AA all basically useless now? Been a while since I’ve played. I always thought WG never realized the Fletcher’s 5 inch are dual purpose guns and can actually shoot down planes.
I have to admit, reading through the comments and seeing the number of people saying its a poor ship and you cant hit anything with torps, really does help explain why some teams are rolled over so easily. If you cannot have great battles in an OP ship like the Black then what ships do you play?
I agree on most but I run a different build - I ditched TA and RPF for BFT and TAE, than I ditched SI for PM and AR. I spam sea mines in general enemy direction, have better gun DPM. RPF would be useful but you don't really need it cause Black has good concealment while you can always smoke plus radar. 3 radars are usually enough to kill all enemy DDs.
I was hesitant to get this ship given the meta, I held back. I will now wait and see if it come back as coal ship , then il buy her. thanks for the review.
The calm seas mod makes this game look like model boats sailing on a pond.
I remember The Black use to be very impressive especially the AA. 2 Blacks and a Shima division wipe the board that had 2 carriers. Now she has dust blowing out her stacks.
The Neustrashimy is a better DD hunter than the Black, with it’s better concealment and ability to dive in toe to toe. Torps are more reliable and guns are more useful at range. If it wasn’t for the price tag difference, Neustrashimy would be the clear choice
Wachting this in 2022... Funny how different the game used to look back then. I almost forgot about that.
Black torp tip: go to somewhere crowded (aka lemming) and just torp randomly into them, someone will take it eventually and before the torp hit you can send another set. Rinse and repeat until you ask yourself how the hell your torp hit?
Finally, thanks for the review!
When is it coming back? 🙏😭
How do you get your water so nice looking?
@@NachoManRandySandwich Specifically the "Calm seas" mod in the modpack
I love mine. 100% torpedo reload and WIDE spreads are my secret to victory. 59% winrate over 92 games.
You don't play the Black to do damage. You play the black to win games. if you don't understand the difference then the Black will be difficult for you.
Always be spamming those torps to where the enemy might go. No you won't get a fantastic hit rate, mine is 3.8%, but what you will do is herd the enemy team. Randoms don't like having torps going past them on both sides, they'll hang back further or even turn and run. Wide spreads are great for getting that random torp hit on the unspotted enemy DD, Zao, or Minotaur.
Forget the guns, use them if you have to, spot for your team and put yourself in position to make the enemy have to at least worry about your torpedoes.
WG: all events will be TX-only!
WG: why yu no unlock our T9-ships?
Black torp is scary, after the Asashio torp for me in game. Once I realized that torp coming, it hard to avoid it already.
Only 10k away from 100k lets go flolo
Hey Flamu ,
I know it's not related to this video, but maybe you also got an opinion on WGs current german ship politic.
Would like a video about the nerfed Odin or the kinda useless Ägir. Really disappointed about the ships I really wanted to buy/achieve.
:/
Has anyone ever noticed that the Black is not rendered correctly in this game? Being a later Fletcher class, it was not built with the high bridge structure of the early Fletcher s. (my Favorite version) It should look like the Kidd, also a later Fletcher. Wonder why they did this. Either way, saving up for a Somers so not getting this one.
Hi Flamu, I love your vids but how do you get your display setting so nice and how do you get above the 75FPS cap? Am I missing something in my settings or is this a mod? Raytracing maybe? Tell me plz, the water looks soooo nice!
Eddie van den Heuvel mod
'following' lol
@@vae9430 What Mod would that be?
@@EddievandenHeuvel you can find it on Aslain's modpack - it"s called calm water or something like that
Raytracing? Videos aren't rendered on the fly by a GPU inside an engine...They are recorded and then encoded.
Very good DD :) Love it
A question by a not much of an experienced player (yet):
Why to choose Black over the Pan Asian dds? I mean don't they have radar too? If am not mistaken. Plus on top of that about 0,8 km concealment torps too, just like the Black's, but they r also faster?
Sure you can't hit dds with them, but you have guns + radar against them right? Can't they be good dd hunters especially under pressure? Isn't their guns dpm ok - ish?
I ve heard that the tier ix - X Pan asian dds have been nerfed, but aren't they still good enough? Aren't they pretty much as good as the Black, if not better?
You have to understand that its the combination of smoke and radar. PA DDs only have a choice of smoke OR radar, just like UK CLs. This makes these ships very hard to disengage with. Another example is German DDs with their smoke + hydro. Hydro alone will do you good but the smoke takes it to a whole new level. Hope this helps, im not too experienced either but i do play German DDs and UK CLs so i kind of have a basic understanding of this
Because it has both smoke and radar?
@@cannavaras you can hide behind island and use radar if you don't have smoke. Plus Black has much slower torps. You won't gonna hit enemy dds unless they r super noobs
@@Star-gt9hz but that's not an answer to your question? And shooting over an island while using my a 7k radar? Really? You asked why choose black over a Pan Asian. They do have radar but only if they give up the smoke..that's why you choose the Black over the PA.
Hmmm yes i'd like to see Yuto make a video on the Yuguto
What is the mode you using? Your surface of sea looks very flat and smooth like mirror... but I can't find in game option about that...
Alaska-chan: *blushes*
Wasn't it announced, that they will move Black to coal department?
Flamu stop hearthing reactions, your on vacation god dammit!
I run it for some pretty decent effect during T9 Ranked...not that we've seen T9 Ranked much lately.
Not to forget Black has the best perma camo in the game if you earned enough ranked or CW tokens.
Its the first steel ship I bought back last year (for something like 11k steel with 25% discount I guess) and I still regret it, at that time I needed to get my first t9 dd for ranked and I chose Black like I could got it immediately, but that wasn’t a good idea and still is now, specialy now that coal will replace steel for the purchase... such more easy to stockpile coal.
Got some decent games and also use 48knts torps, but overall his radar doesn’t worth all lacks he has (like lack of speed, same for Jutland, I hate slow DDs), definitely not one of my favourite t9s.
GG btw, with such a shy team, it wasn’t guaranteed to be a win. WP 👍
You are talking about Thirteenth season ? Black was, probably the best option in that season for a DD at T9
Glorfinder 1992 I don’t remember numbers of season tbh... actually it’s 15th one ?
Then no probably the last with t9 before that.
If I remember correctly I got my Black around Augustus or September 2019.
Maybe the 13th there not sure.
But yeah, for ranked it was definitely a good option 👍
Although, overall, taking count of cost in steel, despite being good for ranked, it wasn’t worthy.
Should have played it only with t9 cruisers and BBs I had at that time, and continue to stockpile steel for Stalingrad or Bourgogne... I would have both since months now then.
My grandfather was on this ship in ww2.
Flamu, you forgot to mention Black has one of the most powerfull perma camos in the game (if not the best among all of the available ones) +150% XP, 150% commander XP and 150% free XP... thats obviously if the player got rank 1 three times in ranked
Yep, never need a premium account again
yeah but I bet you 5$ when it becomes a coal ship that camo will be stripped off it unless you already own the ship.
@@onebigfatguy The camo does not come with the ship, you have to buy it with ranked tokens. They cannot strip it from the ship.
43 knot torps stock!?.... (Giggles in Halland)
Was just playing ranked, trying to get some steel and thinking is the Black worth it. Thx for the help🙂👍like the vids btw🙂
I'd keep saving for one of the t10 steel ships if I were you. If you're wanting a dd, the somers fits in the current meta a lot better. Im a BB main and got Bourgogne first, currently just 351 steel short of Stalingrad.
the water....tis as smooth as a babbys botttom!
What is this smooth as a pond water mod?
I wanted black for a long time since it was a ranked reward.. i got it past summer and hugely regret it. not because it is not good or fun, but because i did not have any of staligrad or bourgogne.
Going for it as first choice isnt smart really. there is no way you dont want/need any of the most expensive steel ships.
Also i want to mention that even if i have great success with dd's i rarely play any nowdays because of cv's.
It is time for wargaming to realise that cv's need some cooldown between attacks.
I can live radar/hydro/dpm/burst but that thing flying above your head before you even reach objectives forces players to selfish gameplay or poor decisions and is really unreasonable.
by the way.. what about the players who spent to steel to get it? isnt it somewhat unfair that you will be able to get it with coal?
When 0.9.3 is released you will be able to mount 21 flags (max 8 combat)
Where can I find the mythical Yugotor?
Hey Flamu, can you do a Kidd commentary soon? I'm curious how good it is at the moment considering that it has a good AA suite as well as the Fletcher's guns at Tier 8.
AA has been nerfed on it.
Had a match with 71 planes shot down the other day in it. Pretty insane
Hey flamu how do you install that ocean mod?
As the ship was remove from ranks reward because same CC was bitching about ... was add it for steal because of same CC . The 26 sec radar is not worth the steal... sounds Familiar Flamass?
The KIDD has a Heal makes the Tier 8 premium a Brute.
I like it, fun ship but Fletcher has always been a fav.
But if they remove it and add it for coal later i want some kind of refund >:( Steel is so much harder to earn.
Fletcher is the cheapest T9 steel/coal ship. I really doubt the coal price will be a better deal. You got the benefit of obtaining her much earlier anyway and the conditions of sale were clear when you bought her. I don't see why you should feel entitled to a refund.
@@Catcrumbs the conditions of the same were NOT clear. The ship was sold only for the most valuable resource in the game. There was no warning or inclination that one day it might be sold for coal, an easily earnable resource.
I'd like the same. It'd be nice, but highly doubtful WG will do it.
@derek96720 Exchange 14 000 steel, receive Black (plus a slot and 3-point captain): that's exactly what was offered and exactly what those who bought with steel got. I don't believe it was ever promised that Black would never be available by any other means and indeed, she was initially made available as a guaranteed reward for ranking out 5 times. I didn't hear any of the players who obtained her that way complaining that they ought to be entitled to some kind of refund for their efforts when she went on sale for Steel.
There has most certainly has been a warning that Black will be one day available in exchange for coal. That's what prompted Flamu to make this video. In any case, I find that steel is more easily obtained than coal. I play in a clan that can't be relied upon to make it out of Storm and by the end of this CB season I will very nearly have enough to buy all available steel ships. When it comes to coal, despite picking the 'More Resources' container at every opportunity, I am some distance from obtaining enough to buy all coal ships.
Where can i find the calm sea mod?
How your graphics is soo good flamu?
Mainak Sil the water is a mod
@@vae9430 what is the name of the mood and how to get it
@@mainaksil7040 just DL Aslain's modpack installer
Neptune support gets balanced out in the first minutes?
Sounds like a pretty normal game to me.
When the XP difference with number 2 is more than over half the team is able to earn,
hard to tell if one needs to laugh or cry about it.
Did buy the Black and firmly regret it, it`s a good asset in ranked, otherwise boring to play.
Did enjoy the show though.
Someone know that whether Black is stil a reward for 6 1st ranks ?
It's not anymore
When it is buyable in coal ... how much would you pay for it ? I’m with you ... not paying steel for it. Free on pan Asian line as you mentioned .
Eh what? You understand its not a pan Asian with completely different abilities?
A Fletcher with pretty useless radar and a more boring Atlanta. Any amount of steel for those is a robbery.
I am not going to waste my hard earned steel on this ship. I am saving up for the Stalingrad.
And it's back.
Power creep is completely avoidable if you know what youre doing as a dev.
But it gives cash, and that is what WG is after.
@@thelvadam2884 lol balanced games can make a lot of money. Dota 2 had a 27 million dollar prize pool. Imagine if warships was balanced it might have some chances in esports. The revenue generated from battle pass is crazy if they can fork 27 million dollars in 4 mts
USS Black, a ship with a hart at the stern....
I am sad to say I bought this for steel just before they announced it was going to be moved to coal. :(
It's finally coming back for coal this summer :)
lovely video
drink every time he says "generally".
I'd have to so no at this point. Black is a classic victim of powercreep. If I could go back to when I got her, I would've gotten Nuestrashimy instead.
You know what kinda bugs me about wow now a days. Just played a match in ranked where 5 of th 7 enemy ships dropped a smoke screen.
You know how frustrating it is to have fire training down from 5 smoke screens and zero ability to attack back?
You can fire back into smoke. Practice it. Seriously, i have spent 8 weeks training and I am now hitting 60% of the time when blind firing. Flamu has some good tutorials on it, and use the training room.
@@mwnciboo oh i do fire back. im probably around 10% hits though, and it doesnt make it any easier when you get focuse fired at AND have to dodge potential torpedo spreads. plus its much harder to blind fire with a bb then a cruiser or a dd. your rate of fire is so low that they have a chance to move. i would much rather have smoke screens exclusively a dd thing rather then half the cruisers too.
soon we'll have a soviet primium bb with a smoke screen :D
How does flamu get that beautiful water quality, I could have sworn my game is at max settings and the water doesn't look like this
It's a mod
It’s the calm waters / calm weather mod. You can get it in aslains mod pack it’s one of the options you can choose or install it separately. Unfortunately it’s not in WG’s mod station yet but I hope it makes its way over there.
Jutland has high torp reload
So its hard to deal with torps
and they even nerfed it more
black is better than jutland
@ArmchairWarrior XD
32200 dmg dealt to Schchors. So you were literally the only one dealing damage to him even though he was spotted with 4k HP for several minutes. The amount of potatoes in this game that can't focus fire and help finishing off low HP targets is really saddening.
Why does Flamu sound like Flambass younger brother
I mean there is so much anti DD in this game it doesnt make sense to have a dedicated anti DD DD with CV and so many new cruisers in the game....
im realy sad too see this match because no one help you to shoot when you pointed low hp enemy
Yes!
finally...1,810th. Thanks for uploading more often!
Is the Black worth the steal? This was the most boring game Flamu has uploaded in ages! And that has nothing to do with Flamu. This ship seems so boring I wouldnt play it if I got it for free and def not waste my hard earned steel on it.
Black owners really should be given the option to get refunded the steel they wasted on this ship and be charged coal instead.
I wouldnt mind a refund on black it doesnt feel that special anymore to me
The torps are more of an area denial tool.. Torp a corner you expect a radar cruiser or smoke cruiser.. They see the torps and have to wait for them to pass.. So adding more speed in cost of range isnt worth it.. These torps are fire and forget
Answer in short is yes :P
Good video.
I will have to stop watching replays as the teams play makes me stupider every goddamn time! I currently cannot tie my laces anymore and have cravings for crayons
Ikr? Seeing how his team played filled me with a desire to piss on an electric socket and take a bath with a toaster.
Mada: "Not if I have anything to say about it an I do. I'm gonna say the N wor..." BOOM
Its slow , worse torps in the game with guns that do nothing against capital ships. Its got the best ranked camo tho 150% bonus
No matter what I'm getting the Black
i bought it, played 3 games and forgottit in the shipyard. I am not a dd player, but this has very bad torps, very slow one
that Tirpitz is a joke
You have to make video on Omaha. Good luck
not one of 1 part in a thousend has that steel, so meh ;)
I like my Black
Is it OP? Of course not! It’s a DD. DDs are nearly extinct in asia server due to enormous radar , rpf and CV. Everyone knows where you are.
Dear Flamu
Seriously mate you should reconsider going to Thailand atm.
The cov-19 pandemic is not a joke and Thailand is right in the middle of multiple clusters. They have cases there in Thailand.
Is there a place in the US called Black?
Neil Baraka US DDs name after generals .
I can imagine the live commentary for this game...what a useless team. Truly special.
Hope we get chance of refund as its pointless dd now