Footage of 2 spearfishing blackouts while freediving
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2016
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You know, there will be always some "Rambos" out there that think that diving, free diving, spear fishing is easy as pie, they are stubborn and take risks, i've know 2 of those that said that they were ok doing that alone, one diving and another spearfishing, both are dead now, the guy that was diving was even a Medical Doctor, died at 60 meters depth from unknown causes, body was recovered the other day, the spear fishing kid loved to do that at night, alone ! Disappeared and was never found, some gear was recovered, weight belt, parts of the the swim suit, it was suspected because the kid was alone and further more he didn't even had a diver's buoy, that most likely when he was coming to the surface was hit by a fishing boat that were common and in great number at night on that spot, 2 deaths that maybe could be avoided if the followed the security procedures.
So sad to hear that Margot. He lives on in your heart😇
I lost my son due to freediving. He had a blackout in deep water , he was diving alone and i lost him Farsidejesus :'(
Dont fre dive or dont dive alone.
a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
@@sacha_mskyYou are ignorant about freediving or shallow water blackout. There are little to no warning signs and then you literally just blackout. There's no time to switch to a pony tank. You might as well scuba
I am very sorry for your painful loss.
There is a life jacket created especially for freediving that monitors the dive to activate in a blackout scenario and keep the diver head up. Freedive recovery vest. It might have saved his life.
There is a lot of ignorance in freediving and even in groups many act as lone rangers. yes a DIVE BUDDY is paramount. Getting CERTIFIED in this sport is paramount. May he rest in peace and may you find the same with time. God Bless you 💐
@@justinfeliciano118 im confident about knowing when im starting to run out of air, switching to a mini tank is quick tho
i have no idea why the guy tried to swim over to the grouper, grab it and swim up with it....it was paralyzed and doing circles...wasn't going to hole up
I just dont understand why someone would go alone. Its the first thing you learn.
better question is why go do it if all you do is playing with death and relying on someone to wake you up.
If we are freediving in a buddy system after learning how to react in a proper course, the risk is minimal: 3 or 4 fatalities occured in 50 years worldwide..Which is way safer than playing soccer or riding a horse..On the other hand, for spearfishing WITHOUT a buddy: hundreds of fatalities occur every year worldwide. We can all have a bad day, if we are alone underwater it will be our last. And when i speak of buddy system, "a friend spearfishing nearby somewhere in the area" is not a buddy. A proper buddy watches you every single time you ascent and keeps watching while you do your recovery breathing.
Don´t go alone is the first thing you learn if you attend a formal freediving course. But unfortunately a lot of spearos consider that they don´t need a course..and instead they will listen to their mates who will tell them to hyperventilate and to dive overweighted.
doesn't everything have a risk of death in life , even crossing the street ; thus with this mentality you cant even cross the street
lack of buddies or just stupidty
I’ll just say honestly that although Iv never dived alone, the buddies I dive with really aren’t watching me or each other. We typically have a lot of space between us while spear fishing. I guess it’s “slightly” better then diving alone? but the risks are still absolutely there if one of us blacks out. It’s a tough situation for me because my dive buddies are all older and more experienced then me. I’m afraid of make a point to change our habits they’ll just look at me as arrogant or paranoid and then I’ll have zero dive buddies to go with.
Bro this is so true. I feel this exact way lmao like diving alone is dangerous but so is diving with others coz half the time u don’t even see them 😂
@@derontildsley1338 yeah, you too need a change of "dive buddies" ASAP if they are not open to offer real safety
Good info! Great advice!
glad you agree!
If they had a spearfishing buoy they wouldn't need to chase the fish. Shoot the fish, drop the gun. Swim-up grab the gun and fish are attached to your buoy pull up the line to gun and get fish. Bam 10x safer.
if you don't' have a buddy if you blackout you will be dead. Buddy at the surface will stop the fatalities from happening.
really want to start freediving but this puts me off as I have no friends - think I will just do surfing instead.
Rob Johnson there’s tons of forums to find dive buddies near your area. Check out spear board.com
Just go with a few friends start of shallow 10 m and work your way
@@100subscribeswithnovidoe5 thanks, I tried again this week but I cant get past 2m depth because my ears hurt and wont equalize, I have bought a weight belt so I will try that - if im sinking then I can concetrate on equalising and not expend so much effort getting under the water, thanks
@@robjonson629 becareful, a weight belt should not sink you. Because then you will struggle to come back up. a weight belt only assists in going down.
@@orlandorodriguez7235 Yes and if you black out overweighted you'll sink like a rock.
It is okay to dive alone if you know how to stop believing on the term "PUSH THROUGH LIMITS" and even if you know your limits just please do not freedive deep if you are alone 4 to 5 meters is enough for you boy
I am new to spearfishing. Been a scuba diver with a good number of dives. Fairly athletic.
I do not have someone to dive with near me, since I live a good 10 hour drive away from the next location where i can hunt.
While i would like to have a buddy with me. That is just not feasible here.
HOWEVER: as with most of the footage of spearfishing accidents... why do they all mess up so badly:
- Hectic movement
- Swimming after a fish that is already secured(just use a buoy) instead of going up calmly.
- You start "working" on the fish while you go up. WHY? Go up. Do it there. (if its because of sharks in the water, you need a buddy. 2-3 would be even better)
- Diving in deep, open water(often murky) alone. wtf
I understand, that there is a certain risk, diving alone. Even if just from the shore in 10m depth. Even if you do everything right.
But i would rly like to know what % of accidents would not happen if people did not constantly push their limits and just do what is safe and tested.
Use a float line. Do not go to deep. Be well rested. Not overweight. Well trained. Well hydrated.
Just go down. Get the targeted fish or not. Go back up. Calm and controlled. With enough time that you breath comfortably from the beginning.
You get a Buddy for anything else and then you should STILL be careful.
I agree with this sentiment.
At one point in my life it was either dive alone (scuba or free) or don't go.
I took every precaution to ensure my own safety.
People knew where i was going, i often had sone kind of surface lookout.
I used an smb, stayed well within my limits of depth and time and carried a pony cylinder (with independence reg) when scuba diving.
Sometimes it is just not practical to be follow every safety rule.
@@steves1015 I want to stress for other people, surface lookouts, people knowing where you are going is pretty much not having any sort of buddy.
basically it will aid in recovery of your body, and that's it. You need a buddy who knows how to rescue blackouts, watching you the whole dive.
@@reflectionsdcprivatecruise1583 if we get your body in time, you have a lot less chances to die
@@sacha_msky you're talking about getting to a body that's already blacked out for over a few minutes (if body is floating somehow) vs a buddy getting to you right as you black out.
Diving without another trainedbbuddy is pretty unacceptable but I believe in the right for someone to do something reckless and taking themselves out of the gene pool.
@@reflectionsdcprivatecruise1583 i forgot that it has to be a very quick rescue, btw dump take on genes but anyway thanks for ur reply
I bought a gun from 2016 and didn't use it until 2019 jst i found someone diving with me.
👏 a fish isn’t worth your life. Education is your best defence
Float line! Especially if alone.
90% of my life I've been diving alone, not because I wouldn't like to have a dive buddy but because I don't know anybody that dives, and I'm usually in remote places in the world where there is nobody else diving, and I don't know anybody that can go with me
I do take every precaution, I always stay well within my breath-hold limits, very conservatively, set my watch with a timer to make sure as soon as that alarm goes off I'm headed up, always go up immediately and don't worry about the fish until I get some breaths
That's all I can do
It's either a dive alone or don't dive
a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
@@sacha_mskyisn’t that another one of those “first things they teach you not to do”? If you’re freediving they say don’t do that because there’s a good chance you’ll rupture your lungs on the way up. Especially since you’re introducing new buoyancy to your body making you ascend faster.
@@sacha_msky I've got a Spare Air and tried it a few times but it was unwieldy
@@scottydiver5114 what went wrong ?
I spearfish freedived alone couple times..though i never pushed myself to the limit. I don't care about no fish that bad for me to risk blacking out. As soon as i see a fish, i go down, shoot, and as soon as i shoot i head straight back to the surface.. Fish or not😅(And i don't use weight belts or weight) ... If i wanna stay down any longer i would use tanks, simple, i dont have gills. Last couple times i went with a buddy tho.. And we're both Ocean Lifeguards
Very start about the weights bro. Forget them. Stay shallow
Good....
I'm in Ensenada Mexico. It's just how it is here. But Americano just value more and risk less. Why you have to go so deep? Harvest sea cucumber inside is better than scallops. Use surfboard to drop lobster cages even far. Use rocks as weights. Lobster everywhere. Why live in the North lol. Learn to make abalone soft. Drop jars for octopus. Mix it up
it's happened to me this year , i was alone
your lucky to be alive.
yeah it was a inforget moment to feel alive
@@imade31 what exactly happened?
@@mcery1 i was alone when i dive'd . Till now i don't remember what happened on that moment exactly . Im so Lucky to be here
@@imade31 Do you still do freediving?
the second one was a deep water blackout? i can't figures out exactly when he blacks out
90% of the blackouts happen at the surface after they take 2 -3 breaths. That's what happened int he second vidoe. He hit the surface and blacked out at the surface.
Listen for the spasm sounds he starts to make in his throat in the last 2-3 metres - classic indicator of near drowning. The same as he starts to sink after surfacing momentarily
2:42 About there.
@@ImmersionFD can you explain why please ? I mean if he breathes 3 times this means he has regained oxygen right ? was does he blackout then ? thanks
@@Nicolas22a You can learn more at my free safety course at www.Freedivingsafety.com. When you take a breath of air, the oxygen does not instantly get to your brain. The oxygen gets into your lungs, then the oxygen has to go into the blood via the alveoli in the lungs. Then the heart has to beat 10-15 times to get the oxygenated blood from the lungs into the brain. It just takes time for the oxygen in the lungs to reach the brain. Make sense?
I never DIve alone
glad to hear!
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@@ImmersionFD it was a joke lmao
@@ImmersionFD he is saying DIve cause you typed it like that in the video
fiji water
I’m free dive for more then 30yers and I recommend to dive alone is match better for me and Spearfishing alone but Don't push yourself more than you can
You dont know where your limits are and a blackout happens unexpectedly never go diving alone
Shallow water blackout has killed professional swimmers and even lifeguards it can happen to anyone
a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
@@peregrinefalcon9513 a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
And I beg to differ with all those naysayers that come into the boat, calling people Rambo and foolish and all that other stuff
It's either dive alone or don't dive
Simple as that
How to take breath
Easy
Your gun looks amazing
Why did he exhale still submerged in the water?
that is what happens when you black out underwater, its an involuntary response to blackout.
After you pass out your body will naturally try to breath which when underwater is a problem
I can dive in the pool but can’t dive in a ocean beach whatever that’s deep and I’m only a 6 year old so can’t do that need a adult
Eat shit.
It doesn't matter if you are a child or a grown-up. Never dive alone, it's too dangerous...
They Get tempted to chase and catch the Big fishes so they run out of breath. It Okey to return home without any catch, no shame in that.👍😀
They dont have a sense of how much oxygen is left in their body they always have a feeling that they have enough oxygen left so after running out of oxygen their brain goes to sleep lol
Who was filming the first shot?!
Ren Chapman from Evolve Freediving
Just make a device to inflate should you black out you back to the surface. If you 2 minute down an back up like a timers once you don't reset it . It would infant . Just before you dive under set it too your time you take to go down an back up again be it 2 3 4 5 minutes eg... 21st century we can't make a device to inflate ....
Perhaps you've not seen Ted's free-diving safety course. Just getting to the surface is not the answer. Most blackouts happen on the surface.
Interesting idea, an inflation device around the neck to keep your head above water could be a good invention.
It already exists. But the price was not so good... (I forget the product name). It was around $800 if I remember right.
@@roccocrisb 800 $ is cheap for saving a life...
@@cymbala6208 The point is not $800 for saving a life. It is $800 for the possibility of saving it. Consequently, a lot of people don't buy that equipment because of the price and sometimes they prefer to bet their life on it.
People who go freediving alone are Just crazy or maybe they Just wanna look cool...
Or has no buddy to go, it happens to me all the time, I go alone, I know it is dangerous, but I still love the sport and never try to challenge myself knowing there is no one to help.
@@johnnyesleo a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
I’d never dive again with anyone in the first clip. They ignored all the signs. The fish is never worth it.
What signs of a blackout did he ignore. He said he felt fine.
@@ImmersionFDI think you’re confused on what I mean. The guy stopped making progress upward and began swimming in place. I would have been down there by the time he blew air out.
More people die in groups than solo by a wide margin. Always make sure you take the time to breathe and get your air intake up before diving back down. You should always be mindful of this.
According to DAN, you are 10x more likely to die diving solo.
That's why it's the 1st rule of diving.
@@bgdojo Not mine, Having someone be there would help for sure. I wouldn't be able to travel and dive freely though. Different experience.
@@Randoverse no offense, but given by your initial statement is an obvious and easily disapproved, I don't think your "rules" are very smart.
Yeah, we all love diving, I'm in a landlocked state, and I can't get out in Dive as much as I love it. But that doesn't mean I want to risk death for kicks, join a buddy group like the rest of us lol
@@bgdojoIf it makes you feel better I log where I'm swimming to my friend. And If I don't reply within time he will get help.
@@bgdojo My buddy is gps. :)
I always always dive solo I set my limits gv
a 0.5 liter mini scuba bottle will be the solution for a self rescue
Alex Pullin died because of this
is he really dead
he did really blackout and the person filming who was trained in freediving rescue technique rescued him. He's fine but he would have been dead if my buddy wasn't in the water watching him.
Yes he died
your brain is dead
@@ImmersionFD When I look on these footages, I'm presuming that you knew in advance that sombody soon would lose consciousness and got redy to it: prepared a camera, equipment and waited for the moment of his blackout, is it right? Then, why didn't you show the moment of his rescue, CPR etc?
Where did you see that a spearfisher had a partners who control his actions? It's just nonsense!
But, each and everyone freediver or spearfisher ahead of time must know: his limit of being under water, breath holding time, diving depth and, most importantly, his physical and psychological readiness for freediving and spearfishing.
If you are not sure, on the intuitive level, don't even get in the water! By the way, if you are not familiar with the basics of rescue on the water and under water - you will be completely useless! Because, you will kill both: the drowning person and yourself.
For recapitulation: all your footages are staged, and don't have any relation at all to a spearfisher's blackouts under water and their rescue. Not ashamed?
Whos rhen camerman
Ren, once he saw the blackout he went and rescued him and he was fine.
your mom
incorrect! the first mandatory piece of information that EVERYONE should know about is knowing what depth you can actually dive to before you experience the bends. it occurs after 30 ft - basic diving knowledge 🤦♂
That’s scuba diving with tanks, this video is discussing freediving no tanks.
Do you actually pay attention to what you’re watching before you comment?
I just learn from the internet and do my dry static apnea training no courses or anything
When I look on these footages, I'm presuming that you knew in advance that sombody soon would lose consciousness and got redy to it: prepared a camera, equipment and waited for the moment of his blackout, is it right? Then, why didn't you show the moment of his rescue, CPR etc?
Where did you see that a spearfisher had a partners who control his actions? It's just nonsense!
But, each and everyone freediver or spearfisher ahead of time must know: his limit of being under water, breath holding time, diving depth and, most importantly, his physical and psychological readiness for freediving and spearfishing.
If you are not sure, on the intuitive level, don't even get in the water! By the way, if you are not familiar with the basics of rescue on the water and under water - you will be completely useless! Because, you will kill both: the drowning person and yourself.
For recapitulation: all your footages are staged, and don't have any relation at all to a spearfisher's blackouts under water and their rescue. Not ashamed?
not ashamed, because they are not staged.
The first video that showed the blackout, there is not footage of the rescue , because once the blackout happened the rescuer Ren Chapman can't film the rescue and do the rescue at the same time. That's why the footage only shows the moment of blackout, after that he was too busy rescuing him to be filming.
These are not staged.
the first one seems a bit fake
that' exactly what an underwater blackout while freediving looks like.
no man he look really calm during the dive, he did nothing wrong he didnt even rush to go to the surface....he went down to catch the fish even if there was no need for this....if that was a blackout, it is a rare one
blackouts are not common but this is what most of them look like. In most circumstances you would know that nothing is wrong. This is why its imperative that you dive with a buddy who knows what they are doing.
in almost every blackout you have done something wrong, most of the time that is pushing yourself...black outs dont come out of nowhere...
whatever you say.....bb
poor fish
All fish get eaten, the only difference is by what/whom.
People just know when you do risk sports. Expect a fatality. Make sure you have you ducks in row ( if you die) If God wanted humans to be under water to catch fish. We wouldn’t have FINS.
Yet mankind has been free diving for food and sponges for thousands of years.