Get all sides of every story in one place at ground.news/andrew. Try it for as little as $1/month or receive 40% off unlimited access, if you subscribe before the end of May. Who have you noticed employing dominant virtue signalling? Let me know below - and hit like on the video!
Virtue by it's very meaning (even in Christian virtue) is something you do for yourself, your self-knowledge and or your self-fulfillment. It is not something you can signal. 'Virtue Signalling' is an oxymoron invented by someone undeducated and reactive. We reall should have called it "Goody-good signalling' or something more validation oriented.
@pensador6953 lol the 😂😂😂 enforcement of morals is woke😂😂😂 means by default, all police legislation and military are definitely woke Because what is enforcement but a disguise for enacting or exacting a toll or tax and forcing a roll aka job or seeking revenge/vengeance aka justice ???
"Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole." - Thomas Sowell
That does account rather well for the people on marches in London recently not actually understanding the statement on the placards they were carrying.... The phrase useful idiots came to mind when i watched them fumbing when asked what the statement means and to what it refers..... embarassing that people know so little about a cause they want to join.
Sort of. I don't think that's really it at all. On social media I guess you can bully people with it, if you feel particularly insecure and needy, which a lot of people do. But in the workplace it's been embraced so as to be weaponized, so that PMC types can wield it when infighting amongst themselves. It's less about 'status' than about people with hiring/firing authority having ammunition at their disposal. And if wasn't for institutional embrace of woke ideology, if wouldn't even really exist. It would be a joke. The only thing that matters about woke conformity is that you can hurt people with it if they don't obey. You can cancel them and expel them, or you can fire them. Without that it's nothing. And that's its only utility and the only reason anyone promotes it or espouses it or defends it. Everything about the actual substance of it is absolutely absurd, and perverse, and naturally no one takes it seriously on the merits, but for the implicit threat of the consequences should you defy it. That's why woke administrators and executives are sometimes called 'maoists'. Because non-believers get subjected to modern-day neo-struggle sessions. Truth is these people couldn't be any more capitalist careerists if you dipped them in gold leaf....
Not only are most Japanese not opposed to foreigners wearing kimono and obi, they actively encourage it, and are completely chuffed with the optics of it. Same for my Indian friends with saris. They always want me to also wear a sari when I attend a wedding for instance. I suppose it's because these woke people haven't travelled on account of their carbon footprint, that they are so thoroughly and vocally mistaken.
When my super-purist friends found out I'd worn yukata to a cherry blossom festival (double cancellation!) and a saree to a friend's wedding, they couldn't accuse me of cultural appropriation fast enough. Nevermind that my Japanese friend INSISTED that we all wear yukata or that my Punjabi friend and her family were tickled pink to see all the white girls wearing sarees. It's FUN to share your culture! (At least, I think it's cool when people enjoy baguettes and berets, but what do I know?)
no, I my closest gal pal friend is terribly woke, and her wokeness brings us awfully close to a permanent rift. She has already been ghosted by another woman friend and she has no idea why; the other woman will not respond to her. And yet my friend is a musician and she began to realize about a year and a half ago that a lot of criticism of “cultural appropriation” was nonsense. But I won’t go there. Let me point out this, though: worldwide, except for (mainly) Saudi Arabians, male world leaders wear the Western businessman’s suit. And in Japan, there are youngsters who like to dress up like Elvis and James Dean and the girls in poodle skirts, etc. The wokeists are cultists, and they are horrible. Sadly, wokeism has infected administrative levels of school districts, universities, corporations, and licensing organizations. It is going g to take continued courage to push back against this new dark age of ideas.
I am loving how successful this channel is getting, especially since you were rejected by the mainstream media for the colour of your skin. Probably why mainstream is cratering.
Pretty sure this channel had about 2,000 subs, when I signed up just one or two months ago. Crazy growth. It just shows how widely disliked this ideology is, and how desperate people are for dissenting voices.
About comunist work ethic, in Romania people used to say: "We pretend we're working. They pretend they're paying us" or "Long and frequent breaks are the key to great success". My husband worked as welder for a few years in the late 90s. Every morning he found a glass of vodka in his locker. He would throw it away careful not be seen. They were already making fun of him for being on time, not stealing bits an pieces, going to highschool and dreaming to go to university.
How interesting when I was visiting Cuba on a holiday once that's exactly what the Cuban said we pretend to be working and they pretend to be paying us and it showed.
Sounds like the only Union Job I ever had and that was as a food handler at an airport. Laziest people I ever worked with which didn't last long. Unions are barely a step above the welfare mentality when it comes to 'deserve'.
I'm dyslexic and nothing annoys me more than people using it as an excuse not to read. You just learn differently, but that doesn't mean you can't read and write. Look at Jimmy Carr etc, plenty of us get degrees and rise up quickly in our professions as we just get on with it.
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“Sensitivity readers” really? Art will die if we sit back, shrug our shoulders and say “ What can you do but suck it up”. Perhaps Art has died already.
Sometimes adversity is a great motivator. Of course it's no motivation for a careerist but it's not going to stop those that are doing it because they have to, it's an obsession, compulsion whatever. I may run foul of "sensitivity readers" myself in the future, would this stop me? Nope, I have to do it.
I would like belonging and acceptance, I do enjoy talking to people, but since I was young I realized it's something I can only get from society at the cost of my values and that's something I can't accept. if I can't accept myself then other people's acceptance could never make up for it.
Imagine. We were actually past asking about anyones race at the end of the 2000s. We really were. Until the woke made everything about it again and even wants segregation back. We were this close to greatness until it was deliberately ruined. I firmly believe this was orchestrated. We were taught that labels are evil and grouping up is how you become a nazi. We were shown the original the Wave movie ( based on a true story) and taught to link critically and her eis gen z being like "yas everything needs labels and grouping up" and it is indeed evil, just my teacher taught us like.im 35
It is a clear take on motivations for sure. Another podcast episode i liked a lot which is a different take on leading your best life was Bill Perkins on Modern Wisdom (Chris Williamson's podcast). I liked his take on how to live your life for your own happiness, and therefor success. Will also touches on your own idea of status, and defining that for yourself and what you try to achieve. If you know what motivates you and makes you happy, target doing as much of that as possible. It will make as much a success of your own life as possible. Trying to satisfy other's ideas, or societal ideas of what you should do to achieve status or success, will not.
I wish everyone would watch this. Talking about now having to be so ambitious because it's not about being the best for every single person, just about being good and enjoying something and feeling fulfilled in that. For some reason it made me cry. It's so much more encouraging than the message out there right now. It makes me think about that quote "and now that you know you don't have to be perfect, you can be good." 💗
I am seventy and received a diagnosis of dyspraxia late in life. Not knowing I was as a child makes me both sad & grateful in equal measure. Throughout my life, I have found my own strategies to cope & even succeed. Who knew 😊
I am 10 years younger but have the same condition. In our youth only a few academic researchers were just beginning to understand ASDs. Mainstream schools and the general public knew nothing but made judgements. My son has it too but even his mainstream beacon school did not handle him well and we had to pull him out and make better arrangements. Unfortunately, if you don't fit in their pigeon holes you just don't fit in. We have to make our own coping strategies.
Thomas sowell’s discrimination or disparities will enlighten anyone who reads it. Woke is a simplified version of looking at the world, you peel back one layer and it falls apart….
Indeed! Sowell more artfully and logically destroys the shiboleths of the left than almost anyone out their. It's why the left despises him. He points out their stupidity, they know it and the hate him for it as they lack the ability to consider any new data that might set their course differently!
@@bpuryea trying to work for a world that’s fair. Treat others as you would have them treat you. To hate on people trying to make the world fairer seems a bit crap. Are you going to steal more of my personal writings. Art ideas and various belongings now because you think I’m standing up for something you’re all busy hating on? Like the other self righteous haters who love the status quo? Again? And now you’re hating on the kids. Cheers mate
@@larrykelly-kf5pp Life isn't fair, never will be. I'm all for and support equality of opportunity but will stand steadfastly against equality of outcome all day every day. I always treat others as I want to be treated. Where did anyone say anything hateful? One example. No one in this thread has stolen a thing of yours. Art ideas? What art ideas? Belongings? no one posited that others property should be theirs. In fact, all have argued for exactly the opposite of theft - including the fact that all taxation on production is theft. Standing against woke nonsense isn't hate, it's a difference of opinion. Now define the following in the context of the United States Constitutional Republic. 1) Fair 2) Theft 3) Hate 4) Personal property 5) Individual sovereignty Don't shirk the last part, your answers are the key to understanding how mature you are, how much history you know and understand, and what your relationship to morality is.
@@gypsylee333 I read it 50 years ago as a young teenager. I like to think it inoculated me to a certain extent. If you haven't read it, I recommend Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. A different type of dystopia but very relevant to todays arguments around surrogacy I think.
I tried to be woke but ended up offending MORE people. People feel less offended, well they complain less when I'm insensitive. The more sensitive you are, the more they will complain. It's a trap, a game nobody can win.
For them, it's about control. You could never be sensitive enough. The goalposts would always move. Once they discovered you're catering to them, they knew they had you on a string.
@angelmessenger8240 On the one hand it's awesome to see the left losing so many battles on all of the important fronts, but it's also a bummer in a way, Because now we've entered the easy phase....... Where are all the cowards and the people who kept silent are jumping the bandwagon. Now we get to hear from people who should have spoken up when it mattered.
I propose we borrow the term "cope cage" for the proliferation of neurodiversity labels adopted by the young. Not only are these labels often shields for criticism, but they also "trap" the person in dependency.
I remember being taught critical thinking at school. We were taught that labels are evil, and joining groups is how you become a nazi. We watched the original The Wave ( based on a true story) and understood that labels were evil..and then gen z comes and says the opposite..and im sorry, but we were right..the young are wrong. And it's not like we are ancient now either..its just that our pre frontal cortex have now been fully developed and we can understand consequences. Why are we giving creedanc to people whose brains aren't fully developed? it's not a dig, it's a fact that I simply accepted as a 21 year old. you think gen z would now looking it up probably not. We are literally repeating the witch persecutions by believing children has got the answers! Mark my words, history is repeating itself.But this time we have simultaneous witch persecutions, nazis rising in the exact same damn way.. and russia being russia like they have always been just look at Russian history.and we are whst...surprised?We need to learn from. history dsmn it.
60-year old neurodivergent man here... dyslexia... never was ALLOWED to make it an excuse for anything, so I never did. I am grateful for parents who did not coddle difference or give attention to attention-seeking behavior, and instead focused on the importance of not limiting ones options with self-imposed nonsense.
Woke does not account for human psychology. We do not understand or teach or think of teaching people how to be strong, we just endlessly try to protect them against any weaknesses. As mothers do for their children. It's good as a foundation but it's simply not enough to make a strong person. That's why we need art and literature because they distill the wisdom derived from experience.
I'm a leftie and over the past year, I've really been feeling disconnected from my comrades (as Hitchens would say), even though I used to support the same woke views. The irony is that I haven't summoned the courage yet to be open about my cynicism of the woke left because I know I'll be cancelled by good friends (otherwise). Everyone is being cancelled for being human and having differing (even minor) opinions now. It's frightening that we can't now engage in conversation, let alone debate, and that experts are being shut down on their special subjects. 😩 The truly open mind is gone and has been replaced by the popularist mind.
"good friends" don't cancel you. Ask yourself what you actually like about each of them, what they bring to your life, are your connections based on real chemistry and values? I don't know your life, maybe im projecting lol, i just find the notion of "friends" canceling eachother concerning
@@dudebro5212 this is kind of what the problem is. good friends who have known you for years, know you're not a bad person or any "ist" or "phobe" will turn against you for having dissenting views. even if you're on their side of the fight, or your views are common sense solutions, you can't just "agree to disagree" anymore, conformity to the narrative is required. to quote Mao Zedong ironically, "Not to have a correct political point of view is to have no soul." That's why it's not just social activism, it's a cult.
I'm a Leftie Freedom Lover who is happy to disagree with Woke Culture. Go for it. Maybe your friends are not clever enough to explore a wide range of views, like you are.
Be brave. Your life will eventually change for the better. I can’t even tell you how thrilled we are when we see someone wake up from this. I’m so happy for you I want to cry.
Hitler genuinely believed that the Jews were victimizing the German people. He told a story about how Jews: take whatever they can for themselves, try to control money, and try to undermine his government. In his mind, Jews were the oppressors of the German people. This is very distinctly different than segregation in the Jim Crow south. In the south, racial conflict reads more like a hurtful, disgusting bullying. Physical segregation was really focused on making it so white people saw as few black people as possible in everyday life. Segregation of bathrooms and water fountains was focused on making it so white people didn't touch the same public facilities as black people. Racial stereotypes and name calling of black people were to make fun of them. At the end of the day though, the mammy caricature of the poorly educated cook and nanny was because all those racist white men were raised by black nannies. Even at its worst, there still was a deep connection between the two populations. My point is that you don't stop the holocaust unless you shut down the victimization narratives in addition to preventing racial bullying.
“Be kind” is a cloak for some very unsavoury characters. The guy who runs the absurd and extremist “hope not hate” outfit for example used to run the British national party. I’d bet good money that he hasn’t had an epiphany and has flipped his politics, no, it is the extremism bit that he finds appealing. From hard right to hard left, the constant is the extreme positioning.
@@Dilbert-o5k Mathew Collins is his name. Worked for the National Front and then the BNP. Although he claims his time at the BNP was to bring them down.
I just watched the video Andrew, great interview……….oh no!, my social score just dropped 8 points, now I can’t buy bread or milk. Oh well, great guest, just common sense and critical thinking in a world where it’s waning.
@@MultipleGrievance The historical migratory habits of the East African Swallow and how it dominated the 1973 Scottish Second Division Football transfer market.
@@MultipleGrievance The title says it all. It breaks down the status games that people play and how everyone is playing it just different things is what gives us status. Its a good book, highly recommend!
I learned about the post Soviet/communist mindset when managing Polish staff. I told one lady that once she’d finished Task A, perhaps she’d like to do Task B. As a Brit, that was quite a forceful instruction. So I couldn’t understand why she hadn’t completed Task B. In her mind it was optional and she gets paid whether or not Task B is completed. I quickly learned that I needed to say “after Task A, you MUST complete Task B” or “you NEED to do this” which just sounded rude to me. This kind of forceful language was also useful when I had children.
Although non Brits can sometimes view British politeness as passive aggression. And British view European forthrightness or bluntness as rude. I recall a linguist of Polish American background talking about the ‘politeness pirouette’ that is required among English speaking people (she included US) and how she would often fail this growing up.
What a weird and unreal world if existence. What happened to moral and ethical standards based on humanity or upon religious/spiritual belief. It is like people no longer know what to believe and resort to dominance tactics to acquire status. That's a short route to isolation and ignominy.
Well, I think this whole thing that everything is dominance and status is a load of crap and passes in some circles as a kind of cheap type of philosophy. Not saying it doesn't play a role. That would be dumb. But like people going on about "Sex is status. X, Y, and Z are status," well, maybe, but sex is kind of fun whether anyone else knows you did it or not, and a meal tastes good whether you posted it on Facebook or not, and on and on. Thiis idea that we're status-seeking atomatons is ridiculous.
Religious beliefs such as women as voiceless cattle class, slavery instructions, killing of homosexuals, genocide, racism and human sacrifice (numbers 11) ‘Spiritual’ is a nonsense term btw.
38:50 Two things. None of the stars people idolise got there without dedication and back breaking effort. Fulfilling a dream doesn’t mean you have to rise to the utmost top. I have loads of friends who are good musicians but you’ll have never heard of. Same for many other professions. The myth is that you can become good at something without a lot of effort, not that you can’t do whatever you want or be whatever you want to become. The other is that failure it’s somehow bad. Failure is how everyone learns. If you want something badly enough you will pursue it regardless of the failures until you achieve it.
I agree but there are many talentless people who are popular (especially in music). In the context of Woke Culture people are now often hired just for fulfilling Agenda quotas instead of talent and hard earned skills.
Here's the thing underpinning all of this; you can't reason with that type of contempt. There is only one cure for that. We all know it and we're all just waiting for that moment. "The anticipation of a battle I cannot avoid is worse than the battle, itself."
The only status you need to work out is what you value most and makes you happy, and make that your priority over everything else. If that is your wife and kids, make sure the work you do gives as much time as possible with them. If that status is a passion of yours, like sport, music, art, or even your career related staus itself - pursue that as much as possible. An interesting take on life strategies for "success" i watched was a Chris Williamson inteview with Bill Perkins. And he hits the nail on the head for me.
I like how Will explains that hard work leads to the creation of great things and then follows the respect for its creator. The problem with Woke people is that they want to skip the "hard work" part and think they automatically deserve respect for anything they create regardless of the quality or morality. I think it all started with the awarding of participation trophies in competitive events. Losers are just as good as winners.
Great chat! I also loved The Science Of Storytelling by Will Storr which is also worth reading. I just like how he thinks and looking forward to reading The Status Game and Selfie as soon as I've finished Iain McGilchrist's two volume magnum opus - The Matter With Things. It's taken me two years to fully digest!
Whatever the opposite of being motivated by status is, I am that. From a young age, I learned to avoid most people and have carefully selected the few friends I have made. My disgust tolerance is rather low and I can't stand most people. So, you should know that not "everybody" is motivated by status and human connection.
The idea that people providing for their children being unfair is utterly ridiculous. If you work hard and save for your future then everyone understands you will receive, and deserve a better life. Working hard and providing for your children so they can have a better life too is perfectly fair too. It's brain dead to pretend otherwise. If society orders itself to pass on a prosperous society, then it's perfectly reasonable that the people born into that civilization will live good lives, while those from shittier societies will have nastier, shorter lives. It's just a form of evolution.
Absolutely nailed so many aspects of what we’re faced with… clarifying the underlying motives. The Woke tactics of dominance are paralyzing the ability to speak truth. This discussion is a revelation… Thanks!
What does it even mean? The woke are shit, but this interview sucked, just a columnist throwing out his own feelings with no data or sound analysis to back it up
"The starting line is not the same." But, every competent parent on the planet has wanted to make a better life for their children. Achieve so that their children have a better start at success. It's the greedy and lazy who want to take that from them for themselves. If you want to help someone up, help them. If you need the resources of others as well, persuade them. If you just take their money, you're not an altruist; you're a thief.
I’ve been actually diagnosed autistic and have ADHD after seeking multiple opinions to be sure. I didn’t want to be lumped with everyone diagnosing themselves without seeking the validity of their suspicions. So I saved money, worked harder than I should have with too many bad days, and was finally accepting of it after so many different doctors, psyche med doctor and therapists/psychiatrists all said i meet the criteria of the DSM5. It’s harmful and will take away the supports those who went through the process. I already deal with a lot a problems since the self-diagnosis plague.
Ask yourself why anxiety, autism and adhd go together. These are often hand in hand; you can even have those who are autistic and can have BPD as well; or NPD. You need to spend time researching before you go saying things so flippantly. Why do people wonder things, but never actually obtain information? They just plant a thought and leave it to die without watering it with knowledge gained. It’s just barren and pointless seed not well thought out at all.
When you frame it that way you’re harmful to people who do have this diagnosis formally. It’s a disability under the ADA. It’s ignorant to assume it as just a quirk. Tell me you know nothing about neuroscience and neurodevelopmental disabilities without telling me you know nothing about these things. It’s not what you see all over tiktok. I was following up until this point in the conversation. It was poor. Not getting your book. If this is the stream of logic you run along I know I’ll be missing things. I’ll find others who share you talking points that might have more critical thinking and their talking points more fleshed out.
Congratulations on getting blessed by the social science priesthood with the vaunted benediction of medicalized helplessness that grants you access to the holy tithe of public funding and special needs considerations.
Remember Dr Iain Gilchrist said the more they go in that woke direction the more the paradox of realizing the opposite in the public and increase in resentment.
During the 3rd Reich the fascist elements in the german army have regularly resqued citizens from the national-socialist SS and SA troops, including jews. They also tried more assassinations against the mustache man than all the allied forces combined. Fascists and Nazis are two different groups, both are generally evil but they are not friends.
Status also doesn't have to be measured externally. You can feel worth and status through your own internal standards that people wouldn't even know about.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st I can set my own status. You won't necessarily agree with it and it can be nothing to do with self-worth. For example, my measure of status may be educational attainment. That's just a fact nothing to do with how I feel about myself. I have a degree, someone else has A levels. I don't feel self-worth about my degree as I feel it was a complete waste of my time and energy getting it and wish I'd chosen a different subject say.
@@lottie2525 no you can't, if everyone else thinks you are a loser they will treat you as such. that's why we talk about people seeking status, it's not something you just make up in your head. the word means 'standing', as in the place where you stand among other people. a high status person is objectively so in a given social context. you are not high status just because you decided to be so. you can be king or queen in your head but if nobody else agrees then you're not that.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st Okay, I can see you and I will never agree on this one. My status vs yours has increased - in my head. And you can't change that. 🤣
Thank you, I was scrolling to see if there was anyone else who had been immediately put off. Of all the examples he could have chosen, with regard to medicine especially, why that one as the narrative around them crumbles and many former proponents start to see the issues?
Vs ?? if you mean Covid Vaccines then thats just a recent example of a Medical breakthrough so why not use it as an example? I'm sure the Pharma giants who mass produced it weren't that virtuous but its no great issue for you to go off on.
That's got me thinking. What is a book store's censorship policy? The public library system I work for has a written policy stance of censorship that we are not the arbiters of morality (and it does cut both ways, I search questionable books from time to time to make sure). The only time they take a stance and refuse to put an item in the collection is if it has the potential to cause immediate harm i.e. Under this criteria an idea no matter how morally reprehensible will not be removed or barred from the collections but something like a book on drug making or bomb making would.
I disagree about his President Trump comments. He was very effective in turning around a faltering American economy and reducing overall unemployment to virtually zero.
He talked mean (realistic) to the Euro leadership so they don't like him. Fact is there were no wars, North Korea was talking instead of launching missiles, Middle East peace was making real progress. China was finally getting checked.
“Most Americans call Latin people LatinX…” uh… no. Most Americans think that term is ridiculous or don’t know about it. It’s a tiny group pushing this insanity.
Hey Gold, I live your interviews. But I gotta say, your set is fabulous. That semi-tropical, rustic furniture, nostalgia signs works. Whoever did your decorating, give them a Gold star (pun intended.)
22:20 There was an old joke in comunictic Czechoslovakia. Two brothers, older one was a german colaborant, younger one was member of resistance movement. Years after war, during deep comunism they've got a chat. The younger asks the older one: "How is it possible, I was in resitance and I am still a worker with no promotion. But you, a colaborant, are in comunistic party and directing a plant?" And the older one replies: "Dear brother, do not be surprised. While I am a brother of resistance movement hero, you are a brother of f... colaborant..."
"The Science of Storytelling" is the best 'how to write' book on the market, as well as being an amazing explanation of the relationship between narrative and psychology.
Fantastic discussion. He's misunderstand what he calls the "You Can Do It Myth". It's not a myth. It's a mode of being. First off, everyone understands that "You can be whatever you want to be." is merely a motivational statement not meant to be taken literally. Even children understand this. Obviously everyone can't be President of the United States... it's mathematically impossible. Now, about the "myth". Regardless of your genetic and social inheritance, your outcome in life will be best if you put the onus for your success on yourself. Don't blame others for your failures first. You can only control what YOU do. Don't wait for others to help you succeed. If people help you, great. If you can help someone else, great. But live in the realm of your own agency. People that want power over you HATE THAT. They want you to come to them for success. That's voluntary slavery. It's important to understand and take in leftist points of view... but it's almost all poison.
A left wing temperament is being virtuous and kind? Whereas a right wing temperament...? He is hitting the problem right on the head without knowing it. conservatives also have motives of virtue, being kind etc.
Jordan Peterson said throughout humanity there’s been some form of left and right wing, the left have been known for the good ideas, the right have been known for implementing them.
The problem with generalised, validating statements such as “adding value to the human family” is that it is a more or less completely obscure and moving target what “value” is supposed to be to whom, how and why. Value is different things to different people. And the value field is not an even one. Different things are vieweds, sanctioned or rewarded differently by different overarching paradigms based on whatever the valus embedded there-in. And many paradigms do so not based on merit but simply on social status, wealth or power. Often inherited or otherwise unearned or even undeserved. Aye - there’s the rub.
27:17 even if someone has a leg up to start from their parents wealth they're merit will still be displayed in whether or not they're competent to keep that sucess or that wealth..
If this is the same Will Storr who wrote "vs. The Supernatural" he is a fab writer. I wrote and thanked him for a very enjoyable book, and he emailed back a charming reply. This was quite a while ago! Nice to see him tackling the current era madness. Andrew, your content is always interesting and entertaining - long may this channel flourish ✨️
The Japanese don't care if you wear a kimono because they see attempts of outsiders to emulate them as reaffirming the superiority of their culture. Poorly emulating them isn't seen as mocking them because they don't think you have the ability to emulate them and they'll mock you with platitudes.
“I know my place” is much derided and condemned, but it has a value. People knew their status in society, and there is security in that. A competent worker at whatever level has a place they know and a respect for their skills that is enabling for their well-being. The further up the status ladder anyone climbs, the more restricted the supply of status becomes, and the more cut-throat the competition for it. “Knowing one’s place” provides a defence against the violence of the competition. If advancement comes, well and good. If it doesn’t, one is no worse off than before. The truly damaging thing is to engage in the struggle for status and make some progress, only to fail and fall. That’s even more traumatic than never having progressed at all.
Hello Andrew. What a pleasure to be here listening to the two of you today. I see that this was released a few days ago although I am just now receiving it .. Of course I keep my notifications turned on .. Although UT strikes again? I don’t know.. I don’t like being paranoid about such things as how I get my information via UA-cam .. But they have been known to do some of the strangers controlling moderation/mediating, unfortunately they target the wrong people .. Either way a few days late or receiving it now .. I am very pleased that you are both here discussing a topic that is massively important to understand .. Woke .. A culture .. Virtuous, angry, victim hood, demanding, entitled, lowbrow .. Several years ago I understood the agenda was to get us all to wear their badges in uniforms.. We were all to represent their desires by acknowledging with either virtue signalling .. Are clothing, our hair, anything to say that we understood … Since the beginning of time we’ve always had the others with us … There was not a problem they were highly revered in almost each culture for their own uniqueness .. For instance even now those who are 10 minute in some cultures will tell you, I am a lady man .. They know they’re not a woman .. Their cultures don’t persecute them for being a lady man .. The Hawaiian culture .. It’s similar to that of Native American culture … There are those who are different within our tribes but we don’t set out to destroy them … The woke culture … It is self defeating … They’ve had their “power” all along… There was no need to force feed.. As to what’s happening recently .. Within your elementary schools high schools universities .. Don’t think for a minute this hadn’t been well thought out over two decades ago …
So sad that at the end he had to aim for the cheap virtue of condemning Israel while being clearly ignorant about the facts on the ground. Let's see how quickly his admirers will set out to cancel me for pointing out it.
You totally misrepresented what he said 46:02 and I think you know that, you just want to virtue-signal. Me pointing this out is not cancelling you, because clearly there is nothing there worth cancelling.
Because people don't excel doesn't mean that it's a myth. Success is different for every individual. We arent all going to be Musk, Jordan, Churchill, Rowling, etc. We all can, however, acheive success within the limitations of our abilities. The only thing society owes you is a fair playing field.
I liked many of the statements made by your guest. My best advice for him as an older person is just "live on." Much as we'd like to, we can't know everything when we're young; some things just come together only when we're old(er).
I take offense with the statement that “all” people are seeking a connection and status among others. I’m not. I don’t care if anyone else wants to be around me or thinks I’m valuable. I KNOW I’M VALUABLE! I am a child of God and my identity is found in Him. He knit me together in my mother’s womb. I am created in His image. I have a purpose in Him. We should not let others decide how we feel. It gives them all the power. “Validate me”. NO! If everyone would just treat everyone else with love - which includes truth - maybe this world wouldn’t be so messed up. But satan is doing his best to destroy humans. AND WE’RE LETTING HIM. Find your place with Jesus. Serve Him and you will find joy. Life may still be difficult, but you will have hope for eternity.
@@SubtleStair beats me. Center = right afaik and "the left" is in bad shape. I'm inclined to think "left and right" politics is mostly window dressing anyhow.
So good about what success means. Sucess is just achieving any level of anything that gives you satisfaction and joy. Its not about being remarkable necessarily.
Hmmm, my in laws did not go to work to drink vodka, I think that's an exaggeration. Although the reasons why communism doesn't work well ring true. I'm glad he recognises the damaging side of individualistic thinking and me, me, me culture.
As someone whose been diagnosed with adhd since the early 90s, and who required hours and hours of testing then (including brain scans) and again in early adulthood (as opposed to filling out a 10 question survey 🙄) nothing pisses me off more than the fact that adhd has become a "tee hee im special" personality trait. Theyve made it impossible for ppl like me who actually need accommodations to get them. Ironically, its extremely ableist behavior.
I get amongst the woke pages quite often…. I call them out when need be on their hypocrisy and their offensive racist rhetoric against Christians, Jews, white men (white people in general) and the unvaccinated ….I point out the fine line they are walking and where this Mass formation psychosis could led them….some I can debate (they are typically university educated so much more educated then me, it’s a challenge) some become the misogynist white males they really hate…. they come for me on my social media pages, no debate just insults and bullying…. It’s the weirdest thing… Their currency is victimhood… The bear in the woods is their current thing, they bring related memes up multiple times a day… and then they make fun of men… it’s like all men are raging rapists …. I’m trying to get my head around how they think…. I just can’t … they certainly are cultish !!!
The rejection of the idea of dominance because it may involve violence is too glib. A person can demonstrate dominance without resorting to violence: Dominance can be shown, for example, in demonstrated competence, in being seen receiving respect and gratitude from others, being seen acting in a prestigious role, being magnanimous, etc., etc.
That wasn't the case in my experience. I worked for two Sikh brothers in Melbourne for 11 years, and they, their workers and associates, were very much focused on status and wealth accumulation, looking down on people from lower socioeconomic groups. They weren't totally disrespectful to me; but it was clear they considered themselves "above me", even though I'm educated, and grew up in a relatively wealthy middle class family, in some of the better suburbs in Melbourne. They were overtly racist - particularly towards Aboriginal people. They also engaged in wage theft, to the tune of 10s of thousands of dollars per year; and they kept the staff's tips, which totaled about $2000/month. What's more, they both also claimed unemployment benefits, despite how well their business was doing (they sat down with their accountant on a regular basis; and I'm sure he was an expert in advising them how to arrange their financial affairs, in order to be able to get away with this). In addition, they had a family trust, to minimise tax. For about 18 months, they ran a hospitality college, which was unprofitable after this time; but they told me they did ok out of it financially, because of the state and federal government grants and subsidies. Their greed appalled me. And yet, many people in Australia see all Sikhs as these saintly people, because of their charitable efforts - it's very easy to be charitable to the tune of say $10,000 per year, when you steal as much as $100,000 per year in wages, and avoid 10s of thousands in taxes. and claim unemployment benefits you're not entitled to.
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Who have you noticed employing dominant virtue signalling? Let me know below - and hit like on the video!
29:55 check Weimar germany.
also, Because empire is not enough.
also maybe some conspiracy theories are actually true.
Virtue by it's very meaning (even in Christian virtue) is something you do for yourself, your self-knowledge and or your self-fulfillment. It is not something you can signal. 'Virtue Signalling' is an oxymoron invented by someone undeducated and reactive. We reall should have called it "Goody-good signalling' or something more validation oriented.
@@vivienneb6199 never, ever, ever. I never deleted even one in four years! But UA-cam does...I have no idea why. I wish they wouldn't.
American Politics using God for their advantage over others 🙏
@pensador6953 lol the 😂😂😂 enforcement of morals is woke😂😂😂
means by default, all police legislation and military are definitely woke
Because what is enforcement but a disguise for enacting or exacting a toll or tax and forcing a roll aka job or seeking revenge/vengeance aka justice ???
“Your inability to control your thoughts and emotions does not obligate anyone to accommodate you.”
Put this on billboards across the nation.
Every body is entitled to my opinion 😊
@@roysummers1026and everyone is entitled to recourse on that opinion..😅
"Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole." - Thomas Sowell
That does account rather well for the people on marches in London recently not actually understanding the statement on the placards they were carrying.... The phrase useful idiots came to mind when i watched them fumbing when asked what the statement means and to what it refers..... embarassing that people know so little about a cause they want to join.
@@theoutsider6191 Well,I've long regarded these marches as a form of mass group psychotherapy anyway...
@@theoutsider6191 Just send them to Israel, they clearly want to be there. Gets them out of us sane people's hair at the very least.
So like green peace😂
Great quote 👍
Woke is just the new way to bully and stay on your high horse while doing so.
Sort of. I don't think that's really it at all. On social media I guess you can bully people with it, if you feel particularly insecure and needy, which a lot of people do. But in the workplace it's been embraced so as to be weaponized, so that PMC types can wield it when infighting amongst themselves. It's less about 'status' than about people with hiring/firing authority having ammunition at their disposal. And if wasn't for institutional embrace of woke ideology, if wouldn't even really exist. It would be a joke. The only thing that matters about woke conformity is that you can hurt people with it if they don't obey. You can cancel them and expel them, or you can fire them. Without that it's nothing. And that's its only utility and the only reason anyone promotes it or espouses it or defends it. Everything about the actual substance of it is absolutely absurd, and perverse, and naturally no one takes it seriously on the merits, but for the implicit threat of the consequences should you defy it. That's why woke administrators and executives are sometimes called 'maoists'. Because non-believers get subjected to modern-day neo-struggle sessions. Truth is these people couldn't be any more capitalist careerists if you dipped them in gold leaf....
Correct
100%!
I’ve noticed they often can’t spell. Sad. 🫢
I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the "Be Kind" message plastered absolutely everywhere. I'll be kind when I feel it's appropriate, thanks
be kind to me as I change your laws in my favour. No.
After seeing "be kind" on bags and shirts I want one that says "be kind or I'll fuck you up" 😂
Love this
There is a version of that. It says "respect Pronouns or yours will be was/were"
A good rule is never ever ever get within reach distance of a person with that T-shirt saying on. Then you will be safe from overreach.
it would be more honest.
As a Gen Z we were polite to each other because we understood the implicit threat of violence if we weren't. We need to bring that back
Not only are most Japanese not opposed to foreigners wearing kimono and obi, they actively encourage it, and are completely chuffed with the optics of it. Same for my Indian friends with saris. They always want me to also wear a sari when I attend a wedding for instance. I suppose it's because these woke people haven't travelled on account of their carbon footprint, that they are so thoroughly and vocally mistaken.
When my super-purist friends found out I'd worn yukata to a cherry blossom festival (double cancellation!) and a saree to a friend's wedding, they couldn't accuse me of cultural appropriation fast enough. Nevermind that my Japanese friend INSISTED that we all wear yukata or that my Punjabi friend and her family were tickled pink to see all the white girls wearing sarees. It's FUN to share your culture! (At least, I think it's cool when people enjoy baguettes and berets, but what do I know?)
I wouldn't say it's carbon footprint.
They tend to spend all their money on "luxury" goods and unnecessarily expensive rent.
@@IVIRnathanreilly agreed, though I WAS being facetious.
When you're white and "privileged," it's your responsibility to be the self-appointed guardian over everyone who is not white and privileged.
no, I my closest gal pal friend is terribly woke, and her wokeness brings us awfully close to a permanent rift. She has already been ghosted by another woman friend and she has no idea why; the other woman will not respond to her. And yet my friend is a musician and she began to realize about a year and a half ago that a lot of criticism of “cultural appropriation” was nonsense. But I won’t go there. Let me point out this, though: worldwide, except for (mainly) Saudi Arabians, male world leaders wear the Western businessman’s suit. And in Japan, there are youngsters who like to dress up like Elvis and James Dean and the girls in poodle skirts, etc. The wokeists are cultists, and they are horrible. Sadly, wokeism has infected administrative levels of school districts, universities, corporations, and licensing organizations. It is going g to take continued courage to push back against this new dark age of ideas.
Oh my gosh! This is ABSOLUTELY correct! It IS a status game! So spot on. It’s high school level social politics. So disgusting.
Spot on
I am loving how successful this channel is getting, especially since you were rejected by the mainstream media for the colour of your skin. Probably why mainstream is cratering.
Yep@@vivienneb6199
Pretty sure this channel had about 2,000 subs, when I signed up just one or two months ago. Crazy growth.
It just shows how widely disliked this ideology is, and how desperate people are for dissenting voices.
@@vivienneb6199 yes
aaaw no.. they'll just say .. well in fact he always was quite a little tiny bit brownish.. beige at least.. ok .. ochre.. burnt sienna then..
@@vivienneb6199yup
About comunist work ethic, in Romania people used to say: "We pretend we're working. They pretend they're paying us" or "Long and frequent breaks are the key to great success". My husband worked as welder for a few years in the late 90s. Every morning he found a glass of vodka in his locker. He would throw it away careful not be seen. They were already making fun of him for being on time, not stealing bits an pieces, going to highschool and dreaming to go to university.
Hows it feel knowing the West just gave you over to the Soviets for nothing?
How interesting when I was visiting Cuba on a holiday once that's exactly what the Cuban said we pretend to be working and they pretend to be paying us and it showed.
Damn, that’s so backwards.
@@seanconnolly5968 they're slavs lol
Sounds like the only Union Job I ever had and that was as a food handler at an airport. Laziest people I ever worked with which didn't last long. Unions are barely a step above the welfare mentality when it comes to 'deserve'.
I'm dyslexic and nothing annoys me more than people using it as an excuse not to read. You just learn differently, but that doesn't mean you can't read and write. Look at Jimmy Carr etc, plenty of us get degrees and rise up quickly in our professions as we just get on with it.
I'm also lysdexic 😢
Richard Branson was dyslexic and tone deaf.
Didn't stop him from being successful with
Virgin Records.
Yep. Same here. 1,000+ books read since I choose to no longer let it affect me poorly.
I changed brain. It hurt. And then it healed.
im lysdexic too dna i get so pessid off by plpoee mis-disabilitating me as taht oethr wrod taht i cant wtire ---- i tnihk ill sue youtube or sdobemoy lkie yuo
@@HABLA_GUIRRRIknow small is your dick?
“Sensitivity readers” really? Art will die if we sit back, shrug our shoulders and say “ What can you do but suck it up”. Perhaps Art has died already.
They have already censored Casablanca across all digital media. Removed the slur for blacls, but not Italians.
Comedy has already been killed..
@@bethotoole6569 Marxist comedy is dead. Conservative comedy is knocking it out of the park.
@@mardyroux8136 No. Conservative comedians are heavily censored now. Most have stopped going to most venues because of it.
Sometimes adversity is a great motivator. Of course it's no motivation for a careerist but it's not going to stop those that are doing it because they have to, it's an obsession, compulsion whatever. I may run foul of "sensitivity readers" myself in the future, would this stop me? Nope, I have to do it.
I don't seek belonging and acceptance. I really don't mind being left alone. I just don't want to be limited in my options.
I'm just sick of being lectured to.
yet here you are...
@@cocoacrispy7802what giving a line or two of viewpoint or thought? That’s not desperation for acceptance.
I would like belonging and acceptance, I do enjoy talking to people, but since I was young I realized it's something I can only get from society at the cost of my values and that's something I can't accept. if I can't accept myself then other people's acceptance could never make up for it.
Brilliant! I'm 32 and feel like my entire generation should see this.
Im 37 i feel ya on that
Imagine. We were actually past asking about anyones race at the end of the 2000s. We really were. Until the woke made everything about it again and even wants segregation back.
We were this close to greatness until it was deliberately ruined. I firmly believe this was orchestrated.
We were taught that labels are evil and grouping up is how you become a nazi. We were shown the original the Wave movie ( based on a true story) and taught to link critically and her eis gen z being like "yas everything needs labels and grouping up" and it is indeed evil, just my teacher taught us like.im 35
It is a clear take on motivations for sure. Another podcast episode i liked a lot which is a different take on leading your best life was Bill Perkins on Modern Wisdom (Chris Williamson's podcast). I liked his take on how to live your life for your own happiness, and therefor success. Will also touches on your own idea of status, and defining that for yourself and what you try to achieve. If you know what motivates you and makes you happy, target doing as much of that as possible. It will make as much a success of your own life as possible. Trying to satisfy other's ideas, or societal ideas of what you should do to achieve status or success, will not.
@@n0namesowhatblerp362truly. They've taken is backwards for sure. It's so sad.
Gen Z is far more affected.
I wish everyone would watch this. Talking about now having to be so ambitious because it's not about being the best for every single person, just about being good and enjoying something and feeling fulfilled in that. For some reason it made me cry. It's so much more encouraging than the message out there right now. It makes me think about that quote "and now that you know you don't have to be perfect, you can be good." 💗
This applies to the advice part, I forgot to tag the time.
Well said..
I am seventy and received a diagnosis of dyspraxia late in life.
Not knowing I was as a child makes me both sad & grateful in equal measure.
Throughout my life, I have found my own strategies to cope & even succeed. Who knew 😊
I am 10 years younger but have the same condition. In our youth only a few academic researchers were just beginning to understand ASDs. Mainstream schools and the general public knew nothing but made judgements. My son has it too but even his mainstream beacon school did not handle him well and we had to pull him out and make better arrangements. Unfortunately, if you don't fit in their pigeon holes you just don't fit in. We have to make our own coping strategies.
Thomas sowell’s discrimination or disparities will enlighten anyone who reads it. Woke is a simplified version of looking at the world, you peel back one layer and it falls apart….
Indeed! Sowell more artfully and logically destroys the shiboleths of the left than almost anyone out their. It's why the left despises him. He points out their stupidity, they know it and the hate him for it as they lack the ability to consider any new data that might set their course differently!
Do you even understand what “ we have to wake up” means?
@@larrykelly-kf5pp Why don't you enlighten us!
@@bpuryea trying to work for a world that’s fair. Treat others as you would have them treat you. To hate on people trying to make the world fairer seems a bit crap. Are you going to steal more of my personal writings. Art ideas and various belongings now because you think I’m standing up for something you’re all busy hating on? Like the other self righteous haters who love the status quo? Again? And now you’re hating on the kids. Cheers mate
@@larrykelly-kf5pp
Life isn't fair, never will be.
I'm all for and support equality of opportunity but will stand steadfastly against equality of outcome all day every day.
I always treat others as I want to be treated.
Where did anyone say anything hateful? One example.
No one in this thread has stolen a thing of yours.
Art ideas? What art ideas? Belongings? no one posited that others property should be theirs. In fact, all have argued for exactly the opposite of theft - including the fact that all taxation on production is theft.
Standing against woke nonsense isn't hate, it's a difference of opinion.
Now define the following in the context of the United States Constitutional Republic.
1) Fair
2) Theft
3) Hate
4) Personal property
5) Individual sovereignty
Don't shirk the last part, your answers are the key to understanding how mature you are, how much history you know and understand, and what your relationship to morality is.
Perhaps, instead of tolerating it and putting up with it, we should all just openly reject and open up wokeness to the ridicule it deserves.
I do my best to do just that...
Which would actually reduce the status of these people, if done right, and therefore end this whole craziness.
OMG, when Will spoke about sensitivity readers I immediately thought of Winston Smith working in the records department at the ministry of truth
I just read that book this weekend for the first time ever finally after hearing everyone reference it so often
@@gypsylee333 I read it 50 years ago as a young teenager. I like to think it inoculated me to a certain extent. If you haven't read it, I recommend Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. A different type of dystopia but very relevant to todays arguments around surrogacy I think.
@joce11Moreover, more often lately, they have been expressly NOT taught.
@joce11 Along with Huxley's Brave New World.
Read some of David Carp's books:- "One.", "Day of the Monkey." - every bit as thought-provoking as 1984.
The BBC need a taste of their own medicine. Defund .
They tossed Doctor Who to Disney and now it's Drag Race in Space.
@@germantoenglish898 I stopped watching that rubbish when Colin Baker got the lead
Big black 🐓?
The British NPR. Defund both.
I defunded them in 2007.
I tried to be woke but ended up offending MORE people. People feel less offended, well they complain less when I'm insensitive. The more sensitive you are, the more they will complain. It's a trap, a game nobody can win.
yes-- once they hear the virus in ur voice its gameover
.. so root it out
You've discovered the key to rooting out narcisism.
For them, it's about control. You could never be sensitive enough. The goalposts would always move. Once they discovered you're catering to them, they knew they had you on a string.
@@AlysaAlysaBolissaBananaFannaFe Exactly!
It's like Religious Cult leaders cherrypicking Bible extracts to confuse their Congregation so you can only follow what 'they' say.
Sooooooo weird To see people on the left finally calling it out and pretty much using the exact same language we all did nine years ago......
Everything goes full circle given time.
@@angelmessenger8240 Because time is a flat circle.
@angelmessenger8240
On the one hand it's awesome to see the left losing so many battles on all of the important fronts, but it's also a bummer in a way, Because now we've entered the easy phase.......
Where are all the cowards and the people who kept silent are jumping the bandwagon. Now we get to hear from people who should have spoken up when it mattered.
hopefully woke is just a fever dream we will "wake up" from 😂
@@vivienneb6199
You are correct.
That is what bias looks like👍
I propose we borrow the term "cope cage" for the proliferation of neurodiversity labels adopted by the young. Not only are these labels often shields for criticism, but they also "trap" the person in dependency.
Nice.
Nice one. I'm already on a debate with someone on FB, I'll sneak in the term
I remember being taught critical thinking at school. We were taught that labels are evil, and joining groups is how you become a nazi. We watched the original The Wave ( based on a true story) and understood that labels were evil..and then gen z comes and says the opposite..and im sorry, but we were right..the young are wrong. And it's not like we are ancient now either..its just that our pre frontal cortex have now been fully developed and we can understand consequences.
Why are we giving creedanc to people whose brains aren't fully developed? it's not a dig, it's a fact that I simply accepted as a 21 year old. you think gen z would now looking it up probably not. We are literally repeating the witch persecutions by believing children has got the answers!
Mark my words, history is repeating itself.But this time we have simultaneous witch persecutions, nazis rising in the exact same damn way.. and russia being russia like they have always been just look at Russian history.and we are whst...surprised?We need to learn from. history dsmn it.
60-year old neurodivergent man here... dyslexia... never was ALLOWED to make it an excuse for anything, so I never did.
I am grateful for parents who did not coddle difference or give attention to attention-seeking behavior, and instead focused on the importance of not limiting ones options with self-imposed nonsense.
Woke does not account for human psychology. We do not understand or teach or think of teaching people how to be strong, we just endlessly try to protect them against any weaknesses. As mothers do for their children. It's good as a foundation but it's simply not enough to make a strong person. That's why we need art and literature because they distill the wisdom derived from experience.
I'm a leftie and over the past year, I've really been feeling disconnected from my comrades (as Hitchens would say), even though I used to support the same woke views. The irony is that I haven't summoned the courage yet to be open about my cynicism of the woke left because I know I'll be cancelled by good friends (otherwise). Everyone is being cancelled for being human and having differing (even minor) opinions now. It's frightening that we can't now engage in conversation, let alone debate, and that experts are being shut down on their special subjects. 😩 The truly open mind is gone and has been replaced by the popularist mind.
"good friends" don't cancel you. Ask yourself what you actually like about each of them, what they bring to your life, are your connections based on real chemistry and values?
I don't know your life, maybe im projecting lol, i just find the notion of "friends" canceling eachother concerning
I wouldn’t call those people friends…
@@dudebro5212 this is kind of what the problem is. good friends who have known you for years, know you're not a bad person or any "ist" or "phobe" will turn against you for having dissenting views. even if you're on their side of the fight, or your views are common sense solutions, you can't just "agree to disagree" anymore, conformity to the narrative is required. to quote Mao Zedong ironically, "Not to have a correct political point of view is to have no soul." That's why it's not just social activism, it's a cult.
I'm a Leftie Freedom Lover who is happy to disagree with Woke Culture. Go for it.
Maybe your friends are not clever enough to explore a wide range of views, like you are.
Be brave. Your life will eventually change for the better. I can’t even tell you how thrilled we are when we see someone wake up from this. I’m so happy for you I want to cry.
Churchill said, "Hitler is the child of the rage of an empire......."
Beastie's magical chains. Without the law the apocalypse could happen. The real reveal. " What is man that thou art mindful of him?" --- The bible.
Hitler genuinely believed that the Jews were victimizing the German people. He told a story about how Jews: take whatever they can for themselves, try to control money, and try to undermine his government. In his mind, Jews were the oppressors of the German people.
This is very distinctly different than segregation in the Jim Crow south. In the south, racial conflict reads more like a hurtful, disgusting bullying. Physical segregation was really focused on making it so white people saw as few black people as possible in everyday life. Segregation of bathrooms and water fountains was focused on making it so white people didn't touch the same public facilities as black people. Racial stereotypes and name calling of black people were to make fun of them. At the end of the day though, the mammy caricature of the poorly educated cook and nanny was because all those racist white men were raised by black nannies. Even at its worst, there still was a deep connection between the two populations.
My point is that you don't stop the holocaust unless you shut down the victimization narratives in addition to preventing racial bullying.
But then again he did more to destroy Britain for his American masters than that angry chap
Dumbledorf said “You’re a wizard Harry”
@@guser7137 Nah, he did that to his country of his own volition. The US had nothing to do with that.
The folks who get offended on the behalf of those who do care, are usually just narcissists, and get off on it.
They wanna subverting the system...they get goodies...praise..adoration...admiration etc...and sympathy too..which allows them to be pure evil
I’m tired of saying woke. We should just call it what it is: neo-racism.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣George Orwell would be proud of that one!
“Be kind” is a cloak for some very unsavoury characters.
The guy who runs the absurd and extremist “hope not hate” outfit for example used to run the British national party.
I’d bet good money that he hasn’t had an epiphany and has flipped his politics, no, it is the extremism bit that he finds appealing.
From hard right to hard left, the constant is the extreme positioning.
Is that right? Didn't know he used to be bnp..
@@Dilbert-o5k
Mathew Collins is his name.
Worked for the National Front and then the BNP. Although he claims his time at the BNP was to bring them down.
@@turbolevo8703 thanks, will look into it
It’s about power. This is why they switch sides from extreme Right to Left. They know that the Left have the most power.
The "right" isn't at all right is part of the problem. Especially the UK. Their right is barely a centrist party by any real measure.
I just watched the video Andrew, great interview……….oh no!, my social score just dropped 8 points, now I can’t buy bread or milk. Oh well, great guest, just common sense and critical thinking in a world where it’s waning.
Well not drinking milk or buying bread may save your health so the agenda fails yet again
Will Storr is great and i can't recommend his book The Status Game enough
I am going to seek this out !
What's it about?
@@MultipleGrievance
The historical migratory habits of the East African Swallow and how it dominated the 1973 Scottish Second Division Football transfer market.
@@ScramTek
Doesn't even sound slightly interesting.
@@MultipleGrievance The title says it all. It breaks down the status games that people play and how everyone is playing it just different things is what gives us status. Its a good book, highly recommend!
I learned about the post Soviet/communist mindset when managing Polish staff. I told one lady that once she’d finished Task A, perhaps she’d like to do Task B. As a Brit, that was quite a forceful instruction. So I couldn’t understand why she hadn’t completed Task B. In her mind it was optional and she gets paid whether or not Task B is completed.
I quickly learned that I needed to say “after Task A, you MUST complete Task B” or “you NEED to do this” which just sounded rude to me.
This kind of forceful language was also useful when I had children.
Although non Brits can sometimes view British politeness as passive aggression. And British view European forthrightness or bluntness as rude. I recall a linguist of Polish American background talking about the ‘politeness pirouette’ that is required among English speaking people (she included US) and how she would often fail this growing up.
What a weird and unreal world if existence.
What happened to moral and ethical standards based on humanity or upon religious/spiritual belief.
It is like people no longer know what to believe and resort to dominance tactics to acquire status.
That's a short route to isolation and ignominy.
Well, I think this whole thing that everything is dominance and status is a load of crap and passes in some circles as a kind of cheap type of philosophy. Not saying it doesn't play a role. That would be dumb. But like people going on about "Sex is status. X, Y, and Z are status," well, maybe, but sex is kind of fun whether anyone else knows you did it or not, and a meal tastes good whether you posted it on Facebook or not, and on and on. Thiis idea that we're status-seeking atomatons is ridiculous.
(Organized) Religion is a cult and very much predicated on dominance though.
Religious beliefs such as women as voiceless cattle class, slavery instructions, killing of homosexuals, genocide, racism and human sacrifice (numbers 11)
‘Spiritual’ is a nonsense term btw.
@triggered577 or common belief and moral code. Nothing wrong g with the 10 commandments.
@@NNM-sc3rj 4 of the 10 are how to kiss gods arse. One is don’t kill but god kills and orders killings.
38:50 Two things. None of the stars people idolise got there without dedication and back breaking effort. Fulfilling a dream doesn’t mean you have to rise to the utmost top. I have loads of friends who are good musicians but you’ll have never heard of. Same for many other professions.
The myth is that you can become good at something without a lot of effort, not that you can’t do whatever you want or be whatever you want to become.
The other is that failure it’s somehow bad. Failure is how everyone learns. If you want something badly enough you will pursue it regardless of the failures until you achieve it.
I agree but there are many talentless people who are popular (especially in music). In the context of Woke Culture people are now often hired just for fulfilling Agenda quotas instead of talent and hard earned skills.
Here's the thing underpinning all of this; you can't reason with that type of contempt. There is only one cure for that. We all know it and we're all just waiting for that moment.
"The anticipation of a battle I cannot avoid is worse than the battle, itself."
The only status you need to work out is what you value most and makes you happy, and make that your priority over everything else. If that is your wife and kids, make sure the work you do gives as much time as possible with them. If that status is a passion of yours, like sport, music, art, or even your career related staus itself - pursue that as much as possible. An interesting take on life strategies for "success" i watched was a Chris Williamson inteview with Bill Perkins. And he hits the nail on the head for me.
I like how Will explains that hard work leads to the creation of great things and then follows the respect for its creator. The problem with Woke people is that they want to skip the "hard work" part and think they automatically deserve respect for anything they create regardless of the quality or morality. I think it all started with the awarding of participation trophies in competitive events. Losers are just as good as winners.
Black culture also brought in 'Respect'.
"Respect for what? What have you done?"
"Just give me Respect!!".
Great chat! I also loved The Science Of Storytelling by Will Storr which is also worth reading. I just like how he thinks and looking forward to reading The Status Game and Selfie as soon as I've finished Iain McGilchrist's two volume magnum opus - The Matter With Things. It's taken me two years to fully digest!
When did ‘virtue is its own reward’, become virtue is a tool of dominance?
Since the tempermentally left wing claimed they held the moral high ground
It's Maoist. Textbook. And we know what happens in that book.
This should be required viewing by everyone, especially the young.
Whatever the opposite of being motivated by status is, I am that. From a young age, I learned to avoid most people and have carefully selected the few friends I have made. My disgust tolerance is rather low and I can't stand most people. So, you should know that not "everybody" is motivated by status and human connection.
I think they know that and were generalizing.
You will be remembered more for your kindness than any other success in life.
The idea that people providing for their children being unfair is utterly ridiculous. If you work hard and save for your future then everyone understands you will receive, and deserve a better life. Working hard and providing for your children so they can have a better life too is perfectly fair too. It's brain dead to pretend otherwise. If society orders itself to pass on a prosperous society, then it's perfectly reasonable that the people born into that civilization will live good lives, while those from shittier societies will have nastier, shorter lives. It's just a form of evolution.
Absolutely nailed so many aspects of what we’re faced with… clarifying the underlying motives. The Woke tactics of dominance are paralyzing the ability to speak truth. This discussion is a revelation… Thanks!
"It's a sort of creative cancer"- what a great phrase to describe the virtue signalling type of woke! I'm adopting it.
Yes, parrot the talking points like a good little puppet
@@queztocoaxial Are you OK?
What does it even mean? The woke are shit, but this interview sucked, just a columnist throwing out his own feelings with no data or sound analysis to back it up
"The starting line is not the same."
But, every competent parent on the planet has wanted to make a better life for their children. Achieve so that their children have a better start at success.
It's the greedy and lazy who want to take that from them for themselves.
If you want to help someone up, help them. If you need the resources of others as well, persuade them.
If you just take their money, you're not an altruist; you're a thief.
…and the finish line keeps moving.
Andrew; Bravo 👏 my friend. Enjoyed every minute of this 👌. Please keep up the great work 👍. So informative. Thanks mate.
I’ve been actually diagnosed autistic and have ADHD after seeking multiple opinions to be sure. I didn’t want to be lumped with everyone diagnosing themselves without seeking the validity of their suspicions. So I saved money, worked harder than I should have with too many bad days, and was finally accepting of it after so many different doctors, psyche med doctor and therapists/psychiatrists all said i meet the criteria of the DSM5.
It’s harmful and will take away the supports those who went through the process. I already deal with a lot a problems since the self-diagnosis plague.
Ask yourself why anxiety, autism and adhd go together. These are often hand in hand; you can even have those who are autistic and can have BPD as well; or NPD.
You need to spend time researching before you go saying things so flippantly.
Why do people wonder things, but never actually obtain information? They just plant a thought and leave it to die without watering it with knowledge gained. It’s just barren and pointless seed not well thought out at all.
When you frame it that way you’re harmful to people who do have this diagnosis formally. It’s a disability under the ADA. It’s ignorant to assume it as just a quirk.
Tell me you know nothing about neuroscience and neurodevelopmental disabilities without telling me you know nothing about these things. It’s not what you see all over tiktok.
I was following up until this point in the conversation. It was poor.
Not getting your book. If this is the stream of logic you run along I know I’ll be missing things. I’ll find others who share you talking points that might have more critical thinking and their talking points more fleshed out.
Congratulations on getting blessed by the social science priesthood with the vaunted benediction of medicalized helplessness that grants you access to the holy tithe of public funding and special needs considerations.
Great interview, as usual. Love so much that format. Thank you!
Remember Dr Iain Gilchrist said the more they go in that woke direction the more the paradox of realizing the opposite in the public and increase in resentment.
Its fascism. Liberal fascism by Jonah Goldberg called in in like 2006.
During the 3rd Reich the fascist elements in the german army have regularly resqued citizens from the national-socialist SS and SA troops, including jews. They also tried more assassinations against the mustache man than all the allied forces combined. Fascists and Nazis are two different groups, both are generally evil but they are not friends.
I'm not remotely concerned about "fairness". Only excellence.
Mt contempt for wokeness has no bounds.
This was a great episode and I can tell you enjoyed it! I will have to get a couple of his books as everything he says makes so much sense!!
Thanks! He’s one of my favourite writers, so good!!
Good one.
The addition of the plants on set is a welcome aesthetic 😎
and turning the lights On
Status also doesn't have to be measured externally. You can feel worth and status through your own internal standards that people wouldn't even know about.
status is inherently a social thing. you're just talking about self esteem
@@beowulf_of_wall_st I can set my own status. You won't necessarily agree with it and it can be nothing to do with self-worth. For example, my measure of status may be educational attainment. That's just a fact nothing to do with how I feel about myself. I have a degree, someone else has A levels. I don't feel self-worth about my degree as I feel it was a complete waste of my time and energy getting it and wish I'd chosen a different subject say.
@@lottie2525 no you can't, if everyone else thinks you are a loser they will treat you as such. that's why we talk about people seeking status, it's not something you just make up in your head. the word means 'standing', as in the place where you stand among other people. a high status person is objectively so in a given social context. you are not high status just because you decided to be so. you can be king or queen in your head but if nobody else agrees then you're not that.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st Okay, I can see you and I will never agree on this one. My status vs yours has increased - in my head. And you can't change that. 🤣
@@lottie2525 yeah well you can be solipsistic if you like, the real world will be out here waiting for you when you are ready to rejoin
So happy for your success. Keep up the real investigative interviews
Meritocracy is where you are rewarded for the value you offer to the human family. -Storr
Love your channel. You bring on such interesting guests. Great food for thought!
Fabulous interview!!❤
Been binging your interviews since I found the channel yesterday, love your guests and how well they articulate their points. Keep up the great work!
He lost me the moment he said those who provided Vs are working on behalf of humanity and are to be admired.
Thank you, I was scrolling to see if there was anyone else who had been immediately put off. Of all the examples he could have chosen, with regard to medicine especially, why that one as the narrative around them crumbles and many former proponents start to see the issues?
@@selkiegal406 Everyone is in some sort of a cult they just don't realise it.
Especially since they have redefined the word vaccine. It’s meaningless today.
Vs ?? if you mean Covid Vaccines then thats just a recent example of a Medical breakthrough so why not use it as an example? I'm sure the Pharma giants who mass produced it weren't that virtuous but its no great issue for you to go off on.
Me too 👊
That's got me thinking. What is a book store's censorship policy?
The public library system I work for has a written policy stance of censorship that we are not the arbiters of morality (and it does cut both ways, I search questionable books from time to time to make sure). The only time they take a stance and refuse to put an item in the collection is if it has the potential to cause immediate harm i.e. Under this criteria an idea no matter how morally reprehensible will not be removed or barred from the collections but something like a book on drug making or bomb making would.
I disagree about his President Trump comments. He was very effective in turning around a faltering American economy and reducing overall unemployment to virtually zero.
Yes but his cabinet a d forign policy were crap.
Not to mention his siding with the WHO with Warp Speed covid response.
@@riffmondo9733 His Foreign policy measues were very effective. What about the Abraham Accords? They're still in force despite creepy Joe
Yes, if the speakers assesment is dodgy on something that obvious how much credibility does the rest of his pater have.
@@riffmondo9733his foreign policy was the best we’ve seen in decades.
He talked mean (realistic) to the Euro leadership so they don't like him. Fact is there were no wars, North Korea was talking instead of launching missiles, Middle East peace was making real progress. China was finally getting checked.
I am LOVING this new channel, Andrew!!! I’ve already bought books from 3 of your guests. Such interesting people! Please keep it up 😃
“Most Americans call Latin people LatinX…” uh… no. Most Americans think that term is ridiculous or don’t know about it. It’s a tiny group pushing this insanity.
I have yet to hear a Latino or a Latina use this pretentious word. Only know nothing "woke" people use it.
@@tensaijuusan4653 exactly
Hey Gold, I live your interviews. But I gotta say, your set is fabulous. That semi-tropical, rustic furniture, nostalgia signs works. Whoever did your decorating, give them a Gold star (pun intended.)
The problem with knowing what the 'other side' thinks is that they don't think at all.
Any interactions I have w them always have a part of the overall script, caught in a vacuum.
Never underestimate your opponent. They have infiltrated many institutions from Disney to Army.
22:20 There was an old joke in comunictic Czechoslovakia. Two brothers, older one was a german colaborant, younger one was member of resistance movement. Years after war, during deep comunism they've got a chat. The younger asks the older one: "How is it possible, I was in resitance and I am still a worker with no promotion. But you, a colaborant, are in comunistic party and directing a plant?" And the older one replies: "Dear brother, do not be surprised. While I am a brother of resistance movement hero, you are a brother of f... colaborant..."
Control is every groups goal
"The Science of Storytelling" is the best 'how to write' book on the market, as well as being an amazing explanation of the relationship between narrative and psychology.
I'm still puzzled about the woke even made it that far with their weird theories
Mass delusion, powerful stuff.
...and fear.
Bell curve plus cowardly politicians.
Soviet propaganda works
@@honkytonk4465 and employers
Fantastic discussion. He's misunderstand what he calls the "You Can Do It Myth". It's not a myth. It's a mode of being. First off, everyone understands that "You can be whatever you want to be." is merely a motivational statement not meant to be taken literally. Even children understand this. Obviously everyone can't be President of the United States... it's mathematically impossible. Now, about the "myth".
Regardless of your genetic and social inheritance, your outcome in life will be best if you put the onus for your success on yourself. Don't blame others for your failures first. You can only control what YOU do. Don't wait for others to help you succeed. If people help you, great. If you can help someone else, great. But live in the realm of your own agency. People that want power over you HATE THAT. They want you to come to them for success. That's voluntary slavery. It's important to understand and take in leftist points of view... but it's almost all poison.
A left wing temperament is being virtuous and kind? Whereas a right wing temperament...? He is hitting the problem right on the head without knowing it. conservatives also have motives of virtue, being kind etc.
It’s funny how many people claim being left wing as some kind of badge of honour. A hundred million dead.
People who avoid politics, ie libertarians or the laissez-faire just want to live. Virtue signalling IS politics itself.
Jordan Peterson said throughout humanity there’s been some form of left and right wing, the left have been known for the good ideas, the right have been known for implementing them.
The problem with generalised, validating statements such as “adding value to the human family” is that it is a more or less completely obscure and moving target what “value” is supposed to be to whom, how and why. Value is different things to different people. And the value field is not an even one. Different things are vieweds, sanctioned or rewarded differently by different overarching paradigms based on whatever the valus embedded there-in. And many paradigms do so not based on merit but simply on social status, wealth or power. Often inherited or otherwise unearned or even undeserved. Aye - there’s the rub.
Ha! The thumbnail quote is 🎯!!!
I saw you on Paula M and you caught my interest. Looked up your book and made a purchase. Looking forward to your Chanel.
27:17 even if someone has a leg up to start from their parents wealth they're merit will still be displayed in whether or not they're competent to keep that sucess or that wealth..
Case in point Karl Marx (founder of communism) came from a wealthy family and he died broke, drunk, an adulterer (multiple times) and a looser.
“Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth"
If this is the same Will Storr who wrote "vs. The Supernatural" he is a fab writer. I wrote and thanked him for a very enjoyable book, and he emailed back a charming reply. This was quite a while ago! Nice to see him tackling the current era madness. Andrew, your content is always interesting and entertaining - long may this channel flourish ✨️
The Japanese don't care if you wear a kimono because they see attempts of outsiders to emulate them as reaffirming the superiority of their culture. Poorly emulating them isn't seen as mocking them because they don't think you have the ability to emulate them and they'll mock you with platitudes.
Only western people understand this woke stupidity...or dare I say..suffer from wokeness😂😂
Really enjoying these conversations Andrew. Thank you.
always enjoy your videos.
“I know my place” is much derided and condemned, but it has a value. People knew their status in society, and there is security in that. A competent worker at whatever level has a place they know and a respect for their skills that is enabling for their well-being. The further up the status ladder anyone climbs, the more restricted the supply of status becomes, and the more cut-throat the competition for it. “Knowing one’s place” provides a defence against the violence of the competition. If advancement comes, well and good. If it doesn’t, one is no worse off than before. The truly damaging thing is to engage in the struggle for status and make some progress, only to fail and fall. That’s even more traumatic than never having progressed at all.
Loved this
Really great interview and discussion 👏
Hello Andrew.
What a pleasure to be here listening to the two of you today.
I see that this was released a few days ago although I am just now receiving it ..
Of course I keep my notifications turned on ..
Although UT strikes again?
I don’t know..
I don’t like being paranoid about such things as how I get my information via UA-cam ..
But they have been known to do some of the strangers controlling moderation/mediating, unfortunately they target the wrong people ..
Either way a few days late or receiving it now ..
I am very pleased that you are both here discussing a topic that is massively important to understand ..
Woke ..
A culture ..
Virtuous, angry, victim hood, demanding, entitled, lowbrow ..
Several years ago I understood the agenda was to get us all to wear their badges in uniforms..
We were all to represent their desires by acknowledging with either virtue signalling ..
Are clothing, our hair, anything to say that we understood …
Since the beginning of time we’ve always had the others with us …
There was not a problem they were highly revered in almost each culture for their own uniqueness ..
For instance even now those who are 10 minute in some cultures will tell you, I am a lady man ..
They know they’re not a woman ..
Their cultures don’t persecute them for being a lady man ..
The Hawaiian culture ..
It’s similar to that of Native American culture …
There are those who are different within our tribes but we don’t set out to destroy them …
The woke culture …
It is self defeating …
They’ve had their “power” all along…
There was no need to force feed..
As to what’s happening recently ..
Within your elementary schools high schools universities ..
Don’t think for a minute this hadn’t been well thought out over two decades ago …
William Storr, thanks for enabling to place confidence in myself again.❤❤❤
So sad that at the end he had to aim for the cheap virtue of condemning Israel while being clearly ignorant about the facts on the ground. Let's see how quickly his admirers will set out to cancel me for pointing out it.
Does he? I will stop watching now
You totally misrepresented what he said 46:02 and I think you know that, you just want to virtue-signal.
Me pointing this out is not cancelling you, because clearly there is nothing there worth cancelling.
Truth hurts, eh?
@@rys2754 Oh, sorry you’re hurting 😭 (Not really)
So he talks shit about virtue signaling before partaking from the trough
Because people don't excel doesn't mean that it's a myth. Success is different for every individual. We arent all going to be Musk, Jordan, Churchill, Rowling, etc. We all can, however, acheive success within the limitations of our abilities. The only thing society owes you is a fair playing field.
Pedantic I know...but sex not gender if we are talking about reality...
I liked many of the statements made by your guest. My best advice for him as an older person is just "live on." Much as we'd like to, we can't know everything when we're young; some things just come together only when we're old(er).
I take offense with the statement that “all” people are seeking a connection and status among others. I’m not. I don’t care if anyone else wants to be around me or thinks I’m valuable. I KNOW I’M VALUABLE! I am a child of God and my identity is found in Him. He knit me together in my mother’s womb. I am created in His image. I have a purpose in Him. We should not let others decide how we feel. It gives them all the power. “Validate me”. NO! If everyone would just treat everyone else with love - which includes truth - maybe this world wouldn’t be so messed up. But satan is doing his best to destroy humans. AND WE’RE LETTING HIM. Find your place with Jesus. Serve Him and you will find joy. Life may still be difficult, but you will have hope for eternity.
Truth.
Being obsessed with status is kinda gay.
Middle of the road is the way to go 😊. Mediocrity is seriously underrated.
How about radical centrism?
@@SubtleStair beats me. Center = right afaik and "the left" is in bad shape. I'm inclined to think "left and right" politics is mostly window dressing anyhow.
Yup I think the west has threaded the needle between far right and far left. Things have gone a bit tits up😅
Funny
So good about what success means. Sucess is just achieving any level of anything that gives you satisfaction and joy. Its not about being remarkable necessarily.
Well said!❤
Hmmm, my in laws did not go to work to drink vodka, I think that's an exaggeration. Although the reasons why communism doesn't work well ring true. I'm glad he recognises the damaging side of individualistic thinking and me, me, me culture.
As someone whose been diagnosed with adhd since the early 90s, and who required hours and hours of testing then (including brain scans) and again in early adulthood (as opposed to filling out a 10 question survey 🙄) nothing pisses me off more than the fact that adhd has become a "tee hee im special" personality trait. Theyve made it impossible for ppl like me who actually need accommodations to get them. Ironically, its extremely ableist behavior.
I really like Joe Rogan… there is a reason why he is the most successful podcaster… he interviews some of the most amazing guests…
I get amongst the woke pages quite often…. I call them out when need be on their hypocrisy and their offensive racist rhetoric against Christians, Jews, white men (white people in general) and the unvaccinated ….I point out the fine line they are walking and where this Mass formation psychosis could led them….some I can debate (they are typically university educated so much more educated then me, it’s a challenge) some become the misogynist white males they really hate…. they come for me on my social media pages, no debate just insults and bullying…. It’s the weirdest thing…
Their currency is victimhood…
The bear in the woods is their current thing, they bring related memes up multiple times a day… and then they make fun of men… it’s like all men are raging rapists …. I’m trying to get my head around how they think…. I just can’t … they certainly are cultish !!!
It also took a long time to get to that point.
The rejection of the idea of dominance because it may involve violence is too glib. A person can demonstrate dominance without resorting to violence: Dominance can be shown, for example, in demonstrated competence, in being seen receiving respect and gratitude from others, being seen acting in a prestigious role, being magnanimous, etc., etc.
What people perceive as success is skewed by celebrity cult.
People will only reflect respect back to you if they think associating with you will rub off on them and give them greater status.
I'm sure Sikhs had the idea of meritocracy 400+ years ago, where we don't look at caste, colour, religion, kings & peasants, etc.
That wasn't the case in my experience. I worked for two Sikh brothers in Melbourne for 11 years, and they, their workers and associates, were very much focused on status and wealth accumulation, looking down on people from lower socioeconomic groups. They weren't totally disrespectful to me; but it was clear they considered themselves "above me", even though I'm educated, and grew up in a relatively wealthy middle class family, in some of the better suburbs in Melbourne.
They were overtly racist - particularly towards Aboriginal people. They also engaged in wage theft, to the tune of 10s of thousands of dollars per year; and they kept the staff's tips, which totaled about $2000/month. What's more, they both also claimed unemployment benefits, despite how well their business was doing (they sat down with their accountant on a regular basis; and I'm sure he was an expert in advising them how to arrange their financial affairs, in order to be able to get away with this). In addition, they had a family trust, to minimise tax.
For about 18 months, they ran a hospitality college, which was unprofitable after this time; but they told me they did ok out of it financially, because of the state and federal government grants and subsidies.
Their greed appalled me. And yet, many people in Australia see all Sikhs as these saintly people, because of their charitable efforts - it's very easy to be charitable to the tune of say $10,000 per year, when you steal as much as $100,000 per year in wages, and avoid 10s of thousands in taxes. and claim unemployment benefits you're not entitled to.
THIS WAS BRILLIANT!!
Thank you both!
'vaccine" ? Considering the truth coming out about the lockdowns etc I was surprised by this comment