Paul Dye's Incredible SubSonex Jet
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2019
- Although it took a little doing, KITPLANES editor Paul Dye flew his cool SubSonex personal jet from his home near Reno, Nevada to AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. In this AVweb video, Marc Cook talks to Dye about what the flight was like and how he built the jet in under 90 says.
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I like how he’s not trying to hide the fact it’s a completely “useless” plane with no useful load and short durance, but is still a totally awesome plane and I wish I had one.
I totally agree with you, but isn't it like a sports car? Got to love it.
I think he is making it a little more negative than reality. There is a full IFR Subsonex complete with autopilot.
@@shreddder999 Seriously? That's kind of incredible.
@@acomingextinction you can find a coupled Subsonex approach on UA-cam. No idea how he has it certified so far.
@@rpierwit exactly, it's like a sports car. Utterly useless and doesn't have enough seats and can't carry much weight and also is uncomfortable as hell and loud and hard to drive but hey it's cool as hell
Paul Dye is NASA’s longest-serving Flight Director and was involved in 39 missions before retiring from NASA in 2013. As NASA's Manned flight director, he planned, directed and controlled the activities of the space shuttle team. His missions included both the first trip to the fully assembled Mir space station in 1996 (STS-79) and the last docking of a space shuttle at Mir in 1998 (STS-91)
Wow, thanks! That's why his name sound really familiar.
Best Uncle Ever😎
Very nice to see the Kitplanes magazine people out doing it for real not just writing about it! Way to go Paul!
That power plant is so compact for what it does. Sure would be nice to see a twin-engined version using the same engines, but with a larger fuel tank and maybe room for a passenger.
Funny you say that, they made a twin engine version. Which is an unmanned recon drone with 0 room for cargo or passengers.
@@play3rthr339and a 2 seater version
"skipping breakfast today. It will cut my range down by 3 miles."
@@RituSharma-wy4wm I think in this case "It" refers to breakfast. So eating breakfast would cut the range down three miles.
Not if he ate baked beans...
@@RituSharma-wy4wm Hey look there goes the point you missed.
Hahaha
take a dump first , add another 1.5 miles range ...
Some people are truly blessed to be able to do what they do.
John Stahr has spent a lot of his career painting million dollar Prevost motorhomes, so, he's well qualified to paint this little jet.
Sweet, little plane! Thanks for sharing this.
Wow I was excited when he mentioned someone from my town Eugene Oregon as an aspiring pilot!
What people get excited about these days.
The painter/crafts person shoots for Marathon in Coburg. You should go and see !
Unbelievable. So fun dreaming about it. Thanks for the buzz
Great and informative video. I'm not a pilot but seeing this makes me want to become one.
Well the paint job is absolutely fantastic, I noticed that early on with the lettering.
Sadly we lost one of those airplanes and its pilot today in Shreveport Louisiana. RIP Freddie.
Was happy to see it has a ballistic chute. Fun little toy you have there.
Very cool plane! Loved the video!
Good to hear the painter is from Eugene, Oregon. Love this town.
Please tell about the attributes of this town of Eugene. Love Oregon.
That's a beautiful little plane.
Great little plane there!
I love the way he got out of the golfcart at the start like he just showed up and they were waiting filming until he did
"Oh hey, didn't see you there..."
@@Goon-124 hahahahahah love it
dude, having a cosk stockpit is awesome!
Love that minimalism control panel.
Beautiful aircraft my friend! From one NASA to another, clean winds and blessings!
Reminds me of the jet conversion of good ole' BD-5
What a legend
The BD-5 was kind of... unstable I guess. I wonder how this plane performs.
@@charleswaters455 The BD-5 was a widow maker. This plane seems to push the size envelope a bit less and so far seems very reliable.
@@rcbif101 The BD-5 was faster and so is a factor in why it was a widow maker. At higher speeds you get all sorts of vibration and resonance and the planes shake apart. I don't think BD did their 300 mph homework.
6 of those jet engines should be enough to use on a 2 seater flying car.
I like the owner/pilot's honesty, that is unless he wants to be unique.
What a beautiful aircraft
An Advanced BD airline of Wichita, Kansas which was sold to a Beer Company as Silver Bullet. Great Tiny Jet Flyer.
It is nice to see people enjoying life!
Beautiful plane though it brings "Manned V-1 "Buzz Bomb" to my mind. Excellent video as usual!
He is from NASA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I went to the Udvar-Hazy just a few weeks ago, and it looks nothing like a V-1
FD Mackey Yea ...if any Saudi’s want to buy one and don’t want to land it ,take note ...
@@LostAnFound I am sure it was a joke, but consider the placement of the engine.
Actually closer to He162 Salamander.
I didn't know we build these small jet engines in our country. Nice.
Congratulations, well done.
Taky mě to překvapuje.
known Paul since the 80's. He retired Flight Controller of the Shuttle. Yes he had a job like Gene Kranz, so he knows his airplanes.
Very vigurating, how portable in size a jet craft can be now a days, like a bubble with little rear engines and wings, almost like 'Goerge Jetson' classic cartoon craft, if you also add a long gyro tention rod at thd front tip path, you can also make them vertically land and take off hoover.
Cool airplane. And Paul seems like a decent guy.
Impressive little craft.
Awesome plane, I want one!
It looks like a lot of fun
Amazing!
I would love to see that aircraft redesigned as a twin engine delta wing, tandem seat aircraft.
Hello my friend Pilot , NICE JOB FOR YOU, GOOD WINDS
That is a beautiful plane
Nice camera work, Mr Bertorelli! Polymath
Just coming around to "Oh yeah, I was a NASA flight director" in there like ain't no thang.
Though, if I was a NASA flight director I would put that logo on everything I owned. :)
His work on the shuttle program must come in handy when that thing runs out of fuel.
themadscientest 😂
@@themadscientest
- Eh? Soo... What's the glide ratio of this thing?
- Actually pretty decent I'd say... About a brick and a half...
There's a guy in Fernley Nevada that does amazing paint work.
Beautiful
Powerful lilli powerplat, i'm amazed
That s a nice little jet
I'm not a pilot but I do like to look at planes. Just stumbled across this one in my feed. What's up with all of the super negative comments? Is it a kit plane community thing? Envy? What gives?
What part of "expensive toy" do you not understand?
@@dlwatib dude, outside of bush pilot planes, all plane not used for commerce are expensive toys. So I don't understand why you got your knickers in a twist.
Guys this is a recreational air craft. Its not a cruiser.
Its tiny. Single seat with a recovery chute. Its cruising speed at altitude is a tick under 300 mph. He said the range was about 1.5hrs.
Thats actually not bad considering how efficiency scales in jet engines.
Think of it this way.
You could assuming perfect conditions, start in cali, make three hops, and be nearly half way across the country.
Thats 6 hrs of time with fueling.
If you got up at 530 and had breakfast you could be in the air at 6. You could have lunch in colorado at about 1230. You could uber to a dispensary and have a nice relaxing smoke, get a motel room, scare up some poon in tinder, have a toss, take a nap, wake up refreshed at about 530, uber back to the airport, taxi, take off and be home by midnight. Or if flying this sort of thing at night isnt your thing, hop twice land in arizona and bed down for the night and get some dinner door dashed to your room and wake up about 6, watch some cartoons, hit tinder up again and have another toss, take off about 9 and be back home again about 1130 or so for lunch.
Or you can just fly lazy circles around your property for about an hour at a time in your goddam jet using you huge fuckin money boner because you can afford a fuckin personal recreational jet.
Some things arent about maximal utility. Sometimes its just fun and being able to do something others cant.
The audio suddenly becomes synchronised at 4.33 ... before that it was a second out.
Oh nice plane btw
Pretty cool and interesting plane. I was trying to figure out why you would lower your landing gear at such a high altitude, then I realized it was to create drag to reduce your air speed. Lol. I'm wondering if you could possibly increase your flight time and range by switching to propane or LP gas like a BBQ Grill? Just a little food for thought, it seems like I read somewhere how some of the jet powered glider builders and pilots did that awhile back.
I think I'd have to do some P80/F80 shooting-star style external tanks on the wingtips with this thing....
Right,in 3 months in his factory , try doing the same in my garage,probably 13 Months fulltime most days
after a week of watching DIY network, I decided to renovate my bathroom. I told the wife it would be done in a month or two, that was 4 years ago...
@@bringithard6721 ...and man, is she walkin' cross-legged! =)
4:45 - "...as you add power, the nose pitches down..." Exactly the opposite problem to the 737MAX, then....
Typical seaplane. Nothing new.
This plane needs a Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System to make it safe ! 😀
I thought it is a "Y" tail (V Tail with very small rudder) - very little drag, but improved handling over typical "V" tail.
Funny how the guy at 0:19 wasn't paying attention at all and about walked straight into him. 😆
He was coming in hot lol the guy had no chance.
Guy on the right had the right away....
What about the Oaf at 8.25 - must have been on autopilot ......
I want a heavily-latticed cockpit like the one shown in the opening frames of this video.
A b-29 superfortress?
I wonder what would take to move the engine in the fuselage and replace the mount with an intake
Oooo,the 2020 BD5J!
It be fun to build a midair refueling system for this. Just got to select a tanker. make a hell of a video.
Love the M16 grip. Nice touch.
It needs wing tanks to extend the range, but then you exceed the maximum operating weight. So then you need a more powerful engine. :)
Wow, NASA flight director! I gotta get to OshKosh
I was wondering how much he has invested total and what does it cost to operate? (insurance + inspections)
Damnit! How did I miss that?!?
"We put a pistol grip on the throttle"
Ah, so now it's an military-style assault throttle then...
It's actually an ar15 pistol grip too lol!
Ghost Throttle with a 30 gallon magazine clip
Hilarious, If we still had the assault weapons ban lives wouldn’t had been snuffed out by angry male virgins
@@ATRTAP you mean that ban we dont have because it never worked in the first place, because the people who come up with this shit have never touched a gun in their lives and have no clue how they work?
@@ATRTAP You do realize all the banned guns during that time were still quite plentiful and easy to find, and there were still mass shootings during that time? Bans don't affect the behavior of those who decide to act illegally, they only prevent ownership by law abiding citizens and persuade those citizens into civil non-compliance and disobedience. If it were illegal to own guns, people would find a way to own them anyway. If there were no more guns, people would make them illegally. If people couldn't make guns, they would just use other means to kill. What it really comes down to is that they should ban murdering people, that would cover all the bases. Just imagine how great this world would be if murder was illegal...
I wonder if there is a small fan jet instead of thrust jet that could be used.
For the record. I had no idea you were in Oshkosh when you started the video. :-)
That's all very cool, but you should also show the plane actually flying !
That thing is a death trap. About a 50/50 chance of survival each takeoff.
I 90% built a Moni back in the day.... Decided to go and fly 172's to get my license and then decided to move on. Had that KFM that was doomed from the beginning....lol
Next model, have the engine inside the fuselage.
Beautiful aircraft though!
Hard to breathe.
Puts me in mind of the v1 piloted version
I wonder if it will perform better with a different engine.
1:28 the artwork on the registration font is fantastic ! can you add external fuel pods ?
Not without exceeding the plane's max weight limit.
Great little plane.
I wonder how much the paintjob weighs?
Beautiful! Does is level on parachute?
What is top speed on this a/c - the ceiling of her? Do you require O2 flying her? When you punch the chute how long till you touch down from say 4,000 feet? And yes your question I an nosy. . . . very nosy. Thank you if you answer and well - - -
If the ceiling is 17000 fett you need something. At about 10000 feet your brain doesn't have enough oxygen?
Best wishes.
Cool
Any relation to David Dye the 2nd or 3rd or Scott or Margret ?
What an amazing engine! The usable load seems very low.
The paint at a bit of distance makes the shape look much better than it is. It's a clumsy angled body shape in reality. They really should make a smooth one in composites instead.
Reminds me of the BD-5J.
So cool.
Whoah! Three months?
What’s the cost as shown (with BRS)?
Yes, it is not IFR. Unless you take off and fly a few minutes, stay in the pattern so you can have your reserves, go on IFR and land back where you started. Neat aircraft. Wonderful.
Would be nice to see it fly.
I'd like to see that engine in an model aircraft maybe even two in a warthog, it would break the sound barrier.
Is that a joke???
And the wings would rip right off as the model disintegrated. A warthog?
Too cool!!!!
Nice nice,thanks,can we see you airborne please.
Dear AVweb: PLEASE put the links to various resources shown in the videos, such as the KIT COMPANY. Thank you.
With absolute respect but Mark, you have this amazing ability to make your mouth move differently to what you say. 😅
My Christmas wish
Sweet !! 👍
In the name of experimentation. I would love to see this jet put on a longer wing span . Just because.
Totally impractical. Great for local experience but …(what’s the performance specs?)
Mach 6 on supercruise. Max speed Mach 7.2. Ceiling 150,000 feet. Range 4000 miles. Armament: Directed energy weapons. Class II stealth mode.
Quick question, why couldn’t he have spent a few weeks on revision of the wings to allow a better tips on the ends to reduce stalls and reduce drag rates ?
The A-10 replacement?
I see this engine is a very small, no bypass engine, which is amazingly neat. Are there any manufacturers out there that are making "small" high bypass engines with better fuel efficiency? I'm relying on the expertise and knowledge base of the those in the know. I hope there is such a small engine.
Glenn G I sure don’t know of any. I love the PBS for its simplicity. FADEC is also wonderful to have.
I know of nothing else in this thrust range. The smallest efficient turbofan engines I know of are the Williams FJ33 series, which are around 1,800 lbf thrust output, obviously too large and powerful for the SubSonex airframe. They’re also too expensive for any kit plane, costing north of $300k each. If you really want a more efficient jet engine, you’re going to pay a huge premium for it.
Didn't mention speed? Aerobatic capabilities?
The guy in the blue shirt doesn't seem too impressed I think it's a beautiful plane
Aviation snob. probably flies some heavy twin engine executive plane.
Ya he seems unimpressed but I guess he’s pushing the right questions instead of just stamping it’s amazing
Thet were both editors at kitplanes magazine!!
Do you want him to be jumping up and down and yelling like all millennials need these days to keep their attention?
The guy probably already knows him and about his jet.
Tried two different Browsers, Audio is not synched with video on either. Other videos were (at same time).
Mine works fine
Is Paul B holding the camera? Too funny...
Curious,,, SONEX or BD5 Which is Better???? Actually, I am interested in the SubSonex However, can the Airplane be modified to , Increase the Cockpit Size and the Wingspan Design? I would like a Longer Range on this type of Airplane. Thanks!