GBO2 Sinanju Stein (ZA): The old 700 cost meta king!
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- This video contains two recent matches I had with the Sinanju Stein (ZA) on Gundam Battle Operation 2. It is a 700 cost raid with long range, great ranged DPS, great mobility, a get out of jail free card with its fuel tank purge, a powerful heavy attack and a 50% HP Psychoframe Resonance skill which lowers melee damage taken by 50% and buffs melee damage even further. It suffers from no dodge roll until you use the fuel tank purge, massively increased thrust usage after using the fuel purge, no leg buffer skill and no good way to break the Nu Gundam HWS funnel barrier outside of vulcan range. I decided to play this suit again since I saw people say that it was still good in the comments section of one of my videos. I think they are partially correct, it is good, but only if the enemy team isn't using Nu Gundam HWS. I hope that you enjoy watching!
Its primary ranged weapon is a beam rifle with 1500 (4500) power, 8 ammo, 0.5 seconds cooldown, 11 seconds reload, 0.5 seconds swap time, 450m (500m) range, 4 seconds focus time and 50% stagger value. Uncharged shots don't instant stagger, charged shots instant stagger and pierce but consume 3 ammo. Uncharged shots can stop just about any incoming suit or can be used to burst down supports from a distance.
Its primary melee weapon is a beam saber with 3100 power, 2 seconds cooldown, 0.5 seconds swap time, 100/80/64% combo modifier, 215%x2 heavy attack modifier and 3 seconds heavy attack focus time. Normal swings are fairly powerful on their own and useful for getting suits out of the way. The heavy attack is where this weapon really shines, since it has great damage and a long reaching fast animation. At 50% HP this charge time is cut in half to 1.5 seconds, further increasing potency.
Its first sub weapon is a vulcan gun with 185 power, 30 ammo, 360 RPM, 5 seconds reload, 0.5 seconds swap, 180m range, 1110 DPS and 7% stagger value. This stuns in 2.5 seconds and has short range which is kind of meh, but it has pretty good DPS and enough power per shot to break through the Nu Gundam HWS funnel barrier.
Its second sub weapon is a bazooka with 2900 power, 4 ammo, 6.5 seconds cooldown, 15 seconds reload, 1.75 seconds swap, 400m range and 80% stagger value. This has pretty high performance for a sub weapon, with high power and long range. You can combo this into your beam rifle to restrain enemies before dumping DPS, it also serves as an effective tool in close quarters before using your melee.
The Sinanju Stein has 23000 HP, 18 ballistic defence and 30 in both beam and melee resist. This is pretty average HP for a raid, but low ballistic resistance and no leg buffer is definitely a downside. It has LV4 Maneuver Armor by default and gains LV3 Emergency Evasion after it uses Active Purge. Active Purge can be used once per life and is activated via the touchpad, firing two 3000 damage heavy staggering projectiles while doing a backflip animation with tons of iframes. This can be used offensively to heavy stagger enemies, defensively to get out of any tricky situation or as a mixture of both. You can use it at the same time you could use a dodge roll, but also while boosting or while in midair. After using it you consume 40% more thrust, but you also gain 5 walking speed. 5 boosting speed and 6 turning speed to somewhat make up for it.
In terms of mobility it has 135 walking speed, 230 boosting speed, 85 thrust and 78 turning speed. This is pretty good on its own but even better once considering that it also has LV3 Forced Injector, LV3 Flight Control and LV1 Flexible Thruster. Flexible Thruster grants +10 boost speed and -50% thrust consumption while using Forced Injector or Flight Control.
Its final skill worth mentioning is Psychoframe Resonance (ZA). This activates at 50% HP and grants +40 melee modifier, -50% melee damage taken and -50% heavy attack focus time. This makes you really hard to take down with melee attacks while also making it even easier to spam heavy attacks.
In conclusion, I feel that while the Stein used to be extremely powerful, the changes in the meta have left it in a much worse position. I would still call it pretty good if the enemy support isn't Nu Gundam HWS, you can still play pretty safe and shoot the support from a distance. The issue is that HWS is the meta 700 cost support, and you need to waste a load of resources just to break the barrier from range, 5 beam rifle shots to be exact. Banshee Norn can also one combo you with melee, even when considering the Psychoframe Resonance melee defence buff, as well as harass you with ballistic damage. Who knows how well Xi will counter it. Since Stein is not doing that well in the meta right now, maybe it would be a good opportunity for the developers to add its missing weapons, like its shield and long beam naginata. Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoyed it!
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7:06 that teamwork was something of beauty
Honestly love playing this suit, but the immense number of strong generals makes picking it very daunting. Most of the time I feel I would have a better time picking any general to take at least neutral damage from most units the enemy team will have.
If there are too many generals you have to change your playstyle to hit and run, or wait for the rest of your team to start atacking and pick on enemies that are fighting other units, move on to the next one, etc, overall if you have high melee atk the charged attack still does a lot of damage to generals and dont underestimate that rifle! lol it has a lot of consecutive shots that deal good damage, its specially good for destroying bases.
@@pablodebella7695 i def try to do that playstyle, and youre def right about the beam rifle, after i saw avenger use it so much i found lots of success just playing more neutral and shooting from afar. It doesnt feel bad to play necessarily but i cant help but feel being at a disadvantage. however with all the strong generals ive just been enjoying the dag doll after getting it lately and ive always enjoyed the support role anyways so its a good time
@@utinni1715 yeahh the dag doll is so hard to kill lol. I have some good mods for the Sinanju and have different builds (close range if the map if smaller, long range if it is larger) and always try to pray on the supports, since the generals tend to go to the front lines they are eventually left alone. For long range combining the rifle with releasing the boosters + the bazooka is still a lot of damage even to generals, but yeah, some generals like Norn are pretty broken.
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I feel like the reason they haven’t given it the extra weapons is 1. Too op for it or 2. They really didn’t want it to feel like the reg Sinanju
You got some buttery smooth movement in this video, it’s like you’re ice skating on them 👍👍👍
I was the sliver bullet suppresser in your video. That was my first match trying the suit out lol
Hi just found your channel and just subscribed ❤ gundam my favorite childhood anime 🥳
Can you do a video on the Zaku IV IP to see how it holds up in the current 700 matches? Would like to see more actual raid playstyle melee instead of mid lining if that’s what 700 raids have been reduced to.
I might not be able to do it soon, it might be impossible if Xi Gundam ends up rampaging at 700 cost lol. I will try eventually though.
Stein be soo good when the enemy team isn't running HWS
Probably one of the most difficult suits to deal with at 700
The rifle wouldn’t be too bad at taking down the shield quickly no?
@@Sai1523nah I have a difficult time dealing with nu hws shield
@@Sai1523 That's the problem, the shield will eat 5 of your rifle shots before it goes down if no one else is on it. Luckily the vulcans do 185 base damage so it can tear through it's shield if need be
Yeah as a shooting raid it does work but hws just puts your role as raid on hold. Legit had a game as him where i basically ignored the support all game because the barrier was always up when i got my angle on them. Still did work and got just shy of 100k dmg only fighting gens really. But it wasn't that fun of a game and felt useless despite ending up with top damage on my team.
I have only ever touched the stein once when it was meta performed poorly in it.
Any recommend it or another over EZZ or atleast as a solid alternative?
Nu Gundam FF is probably the best option if you have it, but not everybody likes it. Varguil LV2 is rather strong if you like how that plays, has more melee options and good stun options while boosting.
@@avenger1_gbo260 Varguil is an reliable one just in my case need to work on being too aggresive. Nu FF i might have taken a break during its roll or just not so fortunate.
Avenger how do you melee so fast after a boost? Like when you stagger someone with a hit and than boost into a another melee attack. I always seem to boost to far
Still a good ol reliable imo
Need more weapons or more ammo on all its weapons. Having to exhaust a significant portion of your ranged options just to break HWS barrier makes nu ff significantly more attractive pick.
Great gameplay. Would be nice to see beam naginata as his secondary weapon now that his Narrative MG ver ka is out as well
my goat..
loved that double heavy attack tactic. Sinanju Stein is strong as fk
Holy shit the amount of times your teammates shot you in the first match lol
Now that you mentioned it. The Stein doesn’t have its shield and naginata.
Honestly you should revisit the Fa ZZ because it's not dead yet
You mentioned Nu HWS so much in the description I thought there'd actually be a game of you fighting one. Either you didn't record one or the match up is just that bad.
I got lucky when I was playing my matches, I played like 4 and stopped.
Man wild time in gbo2 rn that this suit nids a buff
I think fa-zz also hard counter it if using 70 beam resistance build, which make its main ryfle damage per shot only like 600. Also thank god that dev is going to nerf banshee norn
The 70 resistance builds are really OP on a lot of suits. But maybe the average gbo2 player prefers more damage rather than defence for their builds? Still really OP on paper though, 70 beam armor takes 40% less beam damage compared to 50 beam armor lol.
i'd play raids more if i knew how to bait tackles
When i use this suit i don't go to support, but i go to general instead
"King" just busted yea xD
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Play FFNu peak instead!
Erm I already did oomfie! smh...
Need at least 3 more FF Nu vids...!