GBO2 MSN-04II Nightingale: Where are my buffs!?

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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
  • This video contains two matches I had with the Nightingale on Gundam Battle Operation 2. It is a 700 cost raid with excellent melee range, high mobility when Psychoframe Resonance activates, great melee damage, high damage easily repeatable melee stunlock loops, a heavy staggering fully charged beam rifle and flight ability with Flap Booster. Its major weakness would be that it is one of the biggest suits in the entire game without the strengths to make up for it, it lacks Damage Control, has long overheat times, not enough midrange damage, mediocre mobility before Psychoframe Resonance activates and it also has awkward stun options. Back again with another Nightingale video, this time in a post-Norn world. Things have only gotten worse for it and it still hasn't been buffed lol. I hope that you enjoy watching!
    Its primary weapon is a mega beam rifle with 350x8 (2900) ((3500)) power, 80% (85%) ((100%)) heat, 1.3 seconds cooldown, 18 seconds overheat, 0.77 seconds swap time, 175m (400m) ((425m)) range, 2.5 (2.5) seconds focus time and 20%x8 (20%) stagger value. This works basically the same as the Sazabi shotgun while uncharged, with charged shots instant stunning. It can charge a second time to fire a splash heavy staggering beam.
    Its primary melee weapon is a beam tomahawk with 3000 power, 2.5 seconds cooldown, 0.77 seconds swap time and 70% combo modifier. This shares the same moveset as The-O's beam saber. The range on this is ridiculous so oftentimes you can initiate on enemies by just swinging at them from outside their tackle range.
    Its first sub weapon is a chest vulcan gun with 95x2 power, 80 ammo, 450 RPM, 12 seconds reload, 0.5 seconds swap time, 250m range, 1426 DPS and 4%x2 stagger value. This has great DPS and takes just 1.7 seconds to stagger with.
    Its second sub weapon is a set of 4 beam sabers with 3100 power, 3 seconds cooldown, 0.5 seconds swap time, 60%x2 side swing modifier and 70%x3 downswing modifier. This shares the same moveset as the quad beam sabers on The-O. The downswing is great for punishing knocked over enemies with.
    Its third sub weapon is a belly megaparticle cannon with 4000 power, 95% heat, 6 seconds cooldown, 15 seconds overheat, 0.5 seconds swap time, 400m range and 80% stagger value. This stops to fire but it instantly staggers. The range, damage and swap time are all good as well.
    Its fourth sub weapon is a set of focused fire funnels with 250x18 damage, 100% heat, 22 seconds overheat, 0.77 seconds swap time, 350m range and 7%x18 stagger value. These have good stagger value and damage but they instantly overheat with a long recovery time.
    Its fifth sub weapon is a set of automatic fire funnels with 200 power, 100% heat, 25 seconds overheat, 0.77 seconds swap time, 150m range and 0% stagger value. These deploy wherever you aim them but the range is very short. They last for 15 seconds and can fire a total of 46 times.
    The Nightingale has 27000 HP, 20 ballistic resist, 36 beam resist and 36 melee resist. This appears to be extremely durable on paper but the large size of the suit and lack of leg buffers makes it not as bulky as you might think. It has LV4 Maneuver Armor and LV2 Emergency Evasion for defensive skills but lacks Damage Control, making it very easy to stagger accumulate. It has a binders buffer for its very large shoulder binders which completely nullifies stagger and cuts taken damage in half, but these are easy to aim around. It also has a 30% reduction back buffer.
    It also has 145 (155) hover speed, 235 (245) boosting speed, 90 thrust (-45% usage reduction) and 72 (97) turning speed. It is somewhat fast normally but it becomes really nimble once LV2 Psychoframe Resonance activates, it also has the LV2 versions of Flap Booster, Flight Control and Forced Injector.
    It also benefits from the Counter Boost skill, which boosts damage by 20%, reduces damage taken by 20%, adds +5 hover speed and cuts focusing time in half for 30 seconds after a counter tackle.
    In conclusion, I think that the Nightingale is still weak. It is the largest suit in the whole game but doesn't even get skills on par with smaller raids at this cost. I think that it desperately needs a huge list of buffs to become good, such as getting LV2 Damage Control, LV3 Leg Buffer, LV3 Flight Control, LV4 Forced Injector, 200m auto funnel range with 20 seconds overheat time, 15 seconds focus fire funnel overheat time with 300 damage per shot, LV2 Melee Combo Controller, the ability to move and fire the belly beam, better performance for the uncharged MB rifle, 15 seconds overheat time for the MB rifle, better damage for both charged modes on the MB rifle alongside 2 seconds focus time for the MB rifle. This sounds like a lot, but most of it is just bringing its skills and weapons up to par with other 700 cost raids. Thanks for watching, and I hope that you enjoyed it!
    Music used:
    Tetris Splash, Insanely Fast
    Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2, A Good Thing is Possible
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 59

  • @avenger1_gbo260
    @avenger1_gbo260  24 дні тому +2

    My Twitter is linked here if you want to follow! mobile.twitter.com/Avenger1GBO
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  • @mr.abrams9885
    @mr.abrams9885 24 дні тому +48

    I love how the sazabi prototype has damage control and the Nightingale doesn't

    • @ProtoAlpha
      @ProtoAlpha 24 дні тому +19

      That is unbelievably stupid.

    • @Mod_121
      @Mod_121 24 дні тому +13

      I’d like to think that Prototype Sazabi was just BB’s way of saying “Nope, too difficult to buff, let’s release a new unit instead”

    • @RyuuHawke
      @RyuuHawke 24 дні тому +3

      Seems like they are affraid to do so cuz of flap booster along with its heavy stagger gun.
      Honestly I just want leg and back buffer buff with shieldbreak stance and ill be a happy Gale

  • @aclevernickname8560
    @aclevernickname8560 24 дні тому +15

    *Looks at Prototype Sazabi*
    "These are not the Nightingale buffs you're looking for."
    In all reality, this thing REALLY needs a buff. It can absolutely decimate a team in the hands of a good pilot, but the climb and skill level to use this thing effectively is (relatively) extremely high. The fact that a thing its size DOESN'T HAVE DAMAGE CONTROL is just absolutely beyond belief. Every new suit just brings the powercreep up and up. It's ridiculous when even the NORN struggles against Prototype Sazabi.

    • @avenger1_gbo260
      @avenger1_gbo260  24 дні тому +8

      I am NGL, Norn clears Prototype Sazabi so hard. Struggles to break its MA quickly but, its easy to stun it once it starts to melee and then it is dead in one combo.

  • @Kiyosuki
    @Kiyosuki 24 дні тому +10

    Definitely needs damage control, or some sort of super armor mechanic or something to make up for its size imo. I mean, it's supposed to be this gigantic juggernaut yet it flinches so easily its so silly.

  • @dynomight3855
    @dynomight3855 24 дні тому +5

    Gogg, Zock, Silver Bullet, Zee Zulu, and Proto Sazabi "Why do you want Damage Control so badly?"
    Nightingale "Do I really have to explain?"

  • @florence9606
    @florence9606 24 дні тому +3

    At this rate im just gonna need to make a playlist called "stuff Avenger showed me" banger after banger, and somehow the ambient mech combat sounds fit the vibe too

  • @CSKGamer06
    @CSKGamer06 24 дні тому +5

    Since I don't have this suit myself, i always forget got god damn huge this MS is next to other MS's from it's perspective. Kinda makes me wonder what's the second biggest mobile suit in this game next to Nightingale (prior to it's inclusion).
    Like how the Thunderbolt Acguys and the Loto are the two smallest suits in GBO2. At least to my current knowledge that is.

  • @girida-o9075
    @girida-o9075 24 дні тому +5

    A good match in the nightingale instills just enough copium to make you think "wow maybe this thing has what it takes afterall" and then a bad match in the nightingale is like smashing your own skull open with a claw hammer

  • @LordAnubisGaming
    @LordAnubisGaming 24 дні тому +10

    Your Buffs are in the new Sazabi. Get rekted lol. Nah I kid this suit amongst others needs lots of love....

  • @meteorknight999
    @meteorknight999 24 дні тому +8

    This thing needs stagger on boosting into enemy, a heavy attack, longer duration of funnels and for ggigles topple MS if you drop on them from sky

    • @tbc1880
      @tbc1880 24 дні тому +1

      It doesn't really need a heavy attack with its melee range. Give its funnels more damage and let it fire the chest beam mid air. That said if it did have a heavy attack one that doesn't hit the whole room would be nice because its easy to downswing everyone allies included without even trying to.

    • @Alrucards
      @Alrucards 24 дні тому +1

      A heavy attack would be fun if it had the animation from the red rider with its tomahawk.

    • @tbc1880
      @tbc1880 24 дні тому +3

      @@Alrucards fun for you and hell for everyone else including teammates. Red rider already sweeps rooms with that, Nightingale's melee weapons makes the red rider's look like a toothpick.

  • @bruhboyyt3313
    @bruhboyyt3313 24 дні тому +3

    Personally one of my fav raids cuz of how rewarding to pull those combos but i do agree where the buff

  • @freeborn3294
    @freeborn3294 24 дні тому +5

    I love this suit no matter what

  • @giantroboticdinosaur9322
    @giantroboticdinosaur9322 24 дні тому +1

    200k+ damage with only 1-2 deaths in gale is absurd, nice work.

  • @AlexanderVormov
    @AlexanderVormov 24 дні тому +2

    Amazing videos as always

  • @bobvagene4999
    @bobvagene4999 23 дні тому +1

    It just needs better resistances, such as +10 to melee and ballistic resist; so you can turn that lv3 melee armor into overheat reduction, and more hp.
    Maybe also shield break stance.
    The melee animation of x4 saber side swing already causes wing binder to sometimes take a hit instead of main body(thus nullifying any kind of stagger).
    It's very easy to get out of hand with the buffs when it can shoot heavy stun with splash right out of a dash on flat ground(flap booster 2) while protected by assault booster, no other ms can do this at 700(except for maybe transformed zeta3a, but that only flies forward).
    Allowing belly cannon to fire on the move would let it re-stun while in the air to further close the distance if the heavy stun was reduced to regular stun(as if it needs any more with the long melee reach), unless it was also nerfed in swap time or isn't allowed to fire in the air.

    • @avenger1_gbo260
      @avenger1_gbo260  23 дні тому

      Maybe it could somehow be boost fire capable but also incapable of firing in the air? Not sure if it is possible, but it would be more realistic to use the belly beam on the ground then.
      I could make do with funnels+vulcans and heavy stagger beam rifle if the overheat times were shorter.
      And yeah the flap booster potential is insane, but it feels like you only can see that potential when Psychoframe Resonance activated.
      The wing binder thing can happen but it seems rare, plus they can just aim for your big legs anyway so it can be avoided.
      Damage Control, Forced Injectors, Flight Control and Leg Buffer are IMO, absolutely needed. The rest could be buffed but its all for nothing without these.

    • @bobvagene4999
      @bobvagene4999 21 день тому

      @@avenger1_gbo260 I'll do one better: give legs the same trait (nullifies stun) as wing binders.
      So there is no more issue with leg getting hit, leg blocking more hits when in the air/toppled becomes a good thing, encouraging shots to go above legs means wing binder and shield might block more hits, and "Legs are just for show."

  • @raiser5873
    @raiser5873 21 день тому

    Avenger: asking for nightingale buff
    Also Avenger: Does 240k dmg
    you're the definition of newtype my man!

  • @winnie1502
    @winnie1502 24 дні тому

    As a player of Steam version, I can feel the name of this video

  • @Alrucards
    @Alrucards 24 дні тому

    Damage control, shock dampener, data link, better heat management for funnels, and probably a heavy attack.

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 24 дні тому

      Id say damage control but not shock as this suit is basically unstoppable in 1v1's and the massive attacks allow a decent player to stunlock multiple enemies.

  • @LeeFreedom
    @LeeFreedom 24 дні тому

    Feel like we need to really spike up the use rate, death rate, and lost rate for the dev to give these older suits a much-needed buff.

  • @MrVedeh
    @MrVedeh 24 дні тому +1

    we need a transparency filter for big units like Nightingale, Kshatriya or ZZ.

    • @succmama1039
      @succmama1039 24 дні тому

      True. We should also be able to turn off the smoke in this game.

  • @awildbluedestinyunit1appea333
    @awildbluedestinyunit1appea333 24 дні тому +1

    I guess semi related to the Nightingale, did the ProtoSaz appear in the Moon Gundam manga? cuz i saw it fight the Moon in the display screen thing in the hub world. Regardless, idk why tf they released it when 3 other Saz units exists in game. I may not have Nightingale but even i agree that it needs some better of stun resistance.

    • @avenger1_gbo260
      @avenger1_gbo260  23 дні тому +1

      Yes, it did appear. It is in the last few volumes that were translated IIRC. It did fight the Moon Gundam.

  • @holylight2428
    @holylight2428 24 дні тому +7

    Wait didn't they put both damage con and manuever on the new prototype sazabi?
    Urge Zeon has fallen, billion soul must be weight down by gravity. 😢😢😢

    • @killerguy127
      @killerguy127 24 дні тому +1

      Zaku iv ip doesnt even have DC lol wish that got DC especially since norn exists

  • @JM.max-sam
    @JM.max-sam 23 дні тому

  • @nexo42069
    @nexo42069 24 дні тому

    This thing needs a buff to damn near everything

  • @jonasgonzalez2751
    @jonasgonzalez2751 20 днів тому

    bruh this thing is HUUUUGE this should be a space only MS not ground, its incredibly massive, cool but with, again, a massive hit box

  • @renorzeta
    @renorzeta 24 дні тому +1

    i would like it Belly to be able to fire while moving. and some DMG con or something and Aerial Atk would changes how to play this thing sssooo much. and Funnel is weak af.

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 24 дні тому

      If they add fire while moving theyd nerf the damage as it can deal some insane damage compared to the other Sazabi chest beams

    • @renorzeta
      @renorzeta 24 дні тому

      @@wintereclipse3263 other Sazabi chest beam actually fire Twice even the newest Proto Sazabi it 1 trigger fire 2 i think it can't cancel like Gen Sazabi.

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 24 дні тому

      @@renorzeta Did some tests in first was Sazabi FF no surprise being it's the range Sazabi in 2nd was Nightingale 3rd was the good ol General Sazabi and in last was Proto.

  • @Sai1523
    @Sai1523 24 дні тому +1

    I can’t stand these giant ass suits that block half the screen man. Like the Xeku Zwei

  • @Gbo2_player
    @Gbo2_player 24 дні тому +3

    It's funny how Nightingale hasn't gotten any buffs in the last i think, 5 or 6 months?

    • @Mod_121
      @Mod_121 24 дні тому +3

      Dawg try a year, nightingale was released in last July 💀

    • @Gbo2_player
      @Gbo2_player 24 дні тому +4

      @Mod_121 oh god, it's been that long since it released?

    • @Mod_121
      @Mod_121 24 дні тому

      @@Gbo2_playerYES and they’ve ONLY buffed Hi-Nu since then. Like that should be the least of their concerns

    • @EvaInu
      @EvaInu 24 дні тому

      ​@@Mod_121 and hi-nu was buffed like 2-3 times already
      meanwhile our birdy 💀

    • @imaginedyingtolowrankkhezu5552
      @imaginedyingtolowrankkhezu5552 24 дні тому

      ​@Mod_121 I think it's because there are a lot more dogshit players that use the Hi-Nu and bump up the stats for win/loss ratio. Cause last time I checked that's how they decide what needs nerfs and buffs. But who knows since the perfect gundam nerfs did nothing to its performance.

  • @lighthadoqdawg
    @lighthadoqdawg 24 дні тому

    bro you keep big dogging like this and bb studio gonna be like "nah the nightengale don't need buffs , look how it dominates!"

  • @darko7432
    @darko7432 24 дні тому

    GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 12

  • @loneswordsman295
    @loneswordsman295 24 дні тому +1

    Nerf Banshee norn and buff nightingale plz

  • @Vanguish85
    @Vanguish85 22 дні тому

    But can you defeat the state puff marshmallow man!?

  • @pon9670
    @pon9670 24 дні тому +1

    H

  • @Chiricorn-dh2ni
    @Chiricorn-dh2ni 24 дні тому +2

    You play like it doesnt need a buff

  • @fenrir_Lokison9
    @fenrir_Lokison9 24 дні тому

    I really hope they never buff this POS.