Too many lame RAMS

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  • It's not quite as slick as the KVK that Graeme uses on the Hoof GP but the Te Pari Racewell is great for trimming feet..... especially on the big rams.
    In this video we show you some of the boys and some of the poor feet that they currently have!
    We need to get on top of our feet problems
    Cammy
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    At 18 I went away from farming to work in the city (something I still do) and at 23 (2013) I decided I wanted to do something for some extra money so I went on a sheep shearing course. The hardest thing I’ll ever do was learning to shear sheep. [shudders thinking about it]
    I shore whilst on my holidays from work for 2 years and then in 2015 my dad died so I decided to get my own sheep so I could continue working with sheep as it was something I loved doing. From there it escalated quickly from my first 4 sheep in my mum’s garden to now running around 850 breeding ewes.
    I shore over 19,000 sheep this season in the UK and have my own shearing run which lets you see many different farms in the summer months.
    A few years ago I bought myself a sheep pregnancy scanner and have been building up my run since then.
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  • @akantiia
    @akantiia Рік тому +20

    That big teaser ram was a well behaved boy! Even though his foot was sore he didn't fuss about it being picked up and trimmed. Felt bad for that one ram with the really bad foot, good thing the lads have got Cammy! !

    • @marleneclough3173
      @marleneclough3173 Рік тому +1

      I follow a lady in Ireland who farms Zwartbles Sheep they are a very docile and friendly breed

    • @peg4x449
      @peg4x449 Рік тому +3

      Good thing I don't farm sheep.. I'd have kept that black teaser ram as a breeder..

    • @marleneclough3173
      @marleneclough3173 Рік тому

      The lady in Ireland with the Zwartbles sheep uses the fleece. It is spun and woven into lovely blankets which she sells. Apparently the wool is particularly good for this.
      She also farms organically I have learnt so much from this channel very interesting and she explains it so well.
      Her sheep rarely get worms because of all the wild herbs in the pastures but she does get things like scald and fly strike of course

    • @dreamcatcher3861
      @dreamcatcher3861 Рік тому

      ​@@marleneclough3173what's the name of her channel? It sounds interesting. 😊

    • @marleneclough3173
      @marleneclough3173 Рік тому

      @dreamcatcher3861 Zwartbles Ireland Suzanna Crampton she takes lovely pictures of the flowers wildlife trees etc and her garden she is a real regenerative farmer and talks about how much wildlife has returned since she is doing this. It is her families farm and she sells sheep and wool and blankets woven from the wool. Apparently the wool is especially good for wearing. Also because she uses no sprays etc the sheep eat all kinds of plants they would not otherwise and are virtually parasite free be ause of the herbs they eat!

  • @wendyrowland7787
    @wendyrowland7787 Рік тому +19

    The new thinking about not trimming the infected hoof does not take account of the fact that the necrophorus organisms are anaerobic so the bacteria will persist if the infected area is not exposed to the air. I think the rams would definitely benefit from regular foot bathing rather than over use of antibiotics.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +4

      Yeah I'm starting to think that no trimming just prolongs the problem and allows reoccurance of the issues!

    • @karenjohnson8945
      @karenjohnson8945 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheSheepGametrimming is the way to go from what I've seen from Vet shows.

  • @janedaniels7645
    @janedaniels7645 Рік тому +8

    Loved seeing Jock with his tractor. Won’t be long before he’s helping you!

    • @alisoncummins2726
      @alisoncummins2726 Рік тому +3

      It’s amazing how we can see him growing up from video to video.

    • @gregedmand9939
      @gregedmand9939 11 місяців тому

      He's a fearless young lad. We city slickers tend to see a rough farm upbringing for children as dirty and dangerous, while forgetting we all lived like that not long ago. There's something to be said for learning about their world rather than overprotecting them from it.

  • @patpierce4854
    @patpierce4854 Рік тому +5

    That ram with the white line problem looks like he warranted a visit from the Hoof GP. Thanks to the many farming UA-cam channels, I’m grateful to be better informed as to all the different things necessary to bring food to my family’s table.
    I do wonder how well your Scottish Mule or Cheviot Mule ewes deliver lambs sired by the big continental rams. I know twins is the ideal, and wanting good growth rates is also important - but do those Texel sired lambs need assistance being born? I marvel at the decisions farmers make every day, planning for the future and dealing with daily surprises.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      Hi Pat, one of the best things about mules is how easy they lamb. Just have to get the nutrition right before lambing!

  • @saragayle2217
    @saragayle2217 Рік тому +3

    Great video, love hearing jock chatting away,such a happy boy

  • @barbaralavoie1045
    @barbaralavoie1045 Рік тому +4

    I had a who,e paragraph and I pressed something wrong and lost it all Its wonderful how you keep up with all the sheep illnesses, especially the feet. Little Jock is helping you today😂 and he’s just adorable. And here comes Angus in the carriage. Have a great day❤️👍

  • @pattyannbeaven9287
    @pattyannbeaven9287 Рік тому +6

    It’s interesting to see the day to day “maintenance “ of the tups thanks for showing us ❤

  • @ragnboneman6568
    @ragnboneman6568 Рік тому +4

    Another great family video Cammy/Lizzy and the boys.I liked trimming feet back in the day but alas its outdated now a bit like me,looking forward to the next Tup video Take care.

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme Рік тому +1

    It's wonderful how the Te Pari saves you from the hard graft of catching those big rams.

  • @suellenspencer-eb2nv
    @suellenspencer-eb2nv Рік тому +3

    Always work to be done. God bless your family. Love the videos.

  • @darkfaequeen9031
    @darkfaequeen9031 11 місяців тому

    I could watch this all day

  • @cosmicgoatlady6957
    @cosmicgoatlady6957 Рік тому +2

    With all the rain you get I am so surprised you don't get more hoof rot. No tops or not enough, no lambs or bad scans.

  • @lauram6156
    @lauram6156 Рік тому +3

    Need a visit from the hoof GP! Good luck with the tup buying

  • @garymadden2656
    @garymadden2656 Рік тому +1

    Great video Cammy aye it’s getting near that time again when the boys meet the girls 👌

  • @mj3026
    @mj3026 Рік тому +2

    Thank you cammy & Lizzy ❤❤

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme Рік тому

    It was to meet your rams. Thanks, Cammy!

  • @snoozieq4584
    @snoozieq4584 Рік тому +4

    You may want to consider the battery operated hoof trimmers that Sandi Brock has. She loves them and they stay quite sharp.

    • @wendyrowland7787
      @wendyrowland7787 Рік тому +1

      Cammy simply needs a spring to make them operate, just like the spring you get with garden secateurs.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +2

      Sand's are great. I don't think we do enough to justify them though!

    • @SylviaAlcatrazz
      @SylviaAlcatrazz Рік тому +1

      she thought the same thing until she got them, and once the ease of maintaining their feet with the battery shears was shown, she kicked herself not getting some sooner, youve got the handling system to make it easy too with the tilting race@@TheSheepGame

    • @RoadkillbunnyUK
      @RoadkillbunnyUK 11 місяців тому +3

      @@SylviaAlcatrazzthe difference is that Sandi has an intense farm and her sheep are always indoors and on pack so they don’t get worn down naturally so she trims every sheep a couple of times a year, much more that Cammy is likely to.
      It comes down to the simple cost Vs utility. I have no idea what the difference in price is and everybody is going to have different things in their own equation.

  • @mea3665
    @mea3665 Рік тому

    Oh Jock you melt this Grandma's ❤
    That evil boy giggle my grandson has one too !

  • @lindamoore691
    @lindamoore691 Рік тому

    Great video !
    Thank you for sharing !
    👏😀❤️

  • @simontaylor1276
    @simontaylor1276 Рік тому +2

    Hi Cammy, I have just bought some Zwarble ewes can't believe how quiet and good natured they are. There going on a Texel x Charolaise tup see what we end up with. Love the vlog 👍

  • @triciasanders2455
    @triciasanders2455 Рік тому

    I never knew there were so many different breeds of sheep. I like the ones with the big square heads but the ones that have heads like Bull Terriers are pretty cool.

  • @lindaarmstrongjackman9788
    @lindaarmstrongjackman9788 Рік тому +1

    I see Jock drives like you Cammy 😂
    Hope you get some nice new tupps without breaking the bank. 😊👍👍

  • @Annie6460
    @Annie6460 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Cammy.❤️🇦🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @barbaracarlsen6475
    @barbaracarlsen6475 Рік тому +1

    I so enjoy your videos. I have gone back and watched from the beginning. Your channel has grown so much in the last four years, congratulations! I love seeing wee jock! What a cutie! When will you go back and check on the rams? How long will it take for the antibiotics to work? Just curious.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Barabara! About a week and u see a huge difference! 😁

  • @vwvw4
    @vwvw4 Рік тому +1

    Still waiting on a That'll doooooooo Maggie! , jumper. Maybe with her doing a victory roll on the back. I'm sure it would be a best seller.Hope you'll try an ile de france tup. Much better than a texel, IMO, especially if you are considering keeping replacement ewe lambs. But great for terminal lambs, too.

  • @dt8ustotten285
    @dt8ustotten285 Рік тому

    Sorry to see that.. hope all lambs mend soon! Thanks for sharing!

  • @robertabblebaum7813
    @robertabblebaum7813 Рік тому

    The blue texels look great!

  • @Cricket2731
    @Cricket2731 Рік тому

    Sandy Brock (Sheepishly Me) trims the sheep's feet on a regular basis. She has electric shears to make the job easier.
    One of her favorite (retired) ewes recently passed away from a case of foot rot that got away from her. Ruby was being treated at the time & was improving.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      I saw that, very sad. She's had a hard time of it recently.

  • @alexniclauchlainn9247
    @alexniclauchlainn9247 Рік тому

    10/10 pedicure skills Cammy.
    I do wonder about the cost of teasers, vs the time and effort for sheep IUDs, watching Sandy Brock do her ewes seems like such a lot of work compared to chucking a teaser into a field. Obviously its about what works for the individual farmer.
    You have maybe made a a bit of a rod for your own back by choosing the biggest sheep you can get as teasers, 4 shetlands or mayo blackies wouldn't need nearly as much food/care, but they are so much more wild.
    I met the friendliest zwartable tup at the Westmoreland show. He was mugging every passer by for fuss, just loved getting scratches. They're lovely chill sheep.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      U are right i should have chose some hebrideans 😅. Re the IUDs they make lambing much tighter than the teasers do. With teasers the ewes should all lamb within 17 days. With cidrs u can basically pick the day they lambs 😁

  • @sporranheid
    @sporranheid Рік тому +1

    Never a dull moment. 👍

  • @JMFarming
    @JMFarming Рік тому

    Got to credit the perseverance with the springless shears there! 😅

  • @azamyahmad
    @azamyahmad Рік тому

    Absolutely another great video and very interesting video to watch .. TQSM Sir

  • @ciaranjoyce8922
    @ciaranjoyce8922 Рік тому +1

    Howya cammie if ur having problems with feet leave a pile of lime in the field the type u spread on a field we had serious feet problems ourself and that sorted them. Love the vids🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Cheers Ciaran. To be fair i've seen us doing that in summer round water troughs. Not done it for a while though maybe need to get back to it!

  • @westzed23
    @westzed23 Рік тому +1

    Isn't it always true that you can never find the right working tool you need when out and about. You did make it work though. 😂

  • @rebeccathompson5159
    @rebeccathompson5159 Рік тому +3

    Why did you not put the rams through the foot bath to get any foot rot cleared.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      We did Rebecca but I hadn't pressed the button on the camera. Shame as that's the best part of these videos!

  • @vickimarkjones
    @vickimarkjones Рік тому

    As always, thanks !

  • @garycarr6597
    @garycarr6597 Рік тому +2

    Thanks cammy lizzy and marisa for your hard work❤

  • @thumbalinamom
    @thumbalinamom Рік тому

    Your son is adorable with all of his blond curls😁

  • @paddy294
    @paddy294 Рік тому

    Cracking video as always.

  • @patricewhitson3923
    @patricewhitson3923 Рік тому

    You need the Hoof GP!!

  • @garycarr6597
    @garycarr6597 Рік тому +2

    Cammy could you please film a few videos of you buying rams?

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme Рік тому

    Jock's hair is so beautiful. (I'm doing lots of small comments for the algorithm)

  • @howarddavies9677
    @howarddavies9677 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the video Cammy, looking forward to seeing what Rams you bring in, hopefully some sale footage too. Any more collaboration with the Viking ?

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Got a sale vid coming soon! I don't think i'll be back up there until Scanning time in Feb / March!

    • @howarddavies9677
      @howarddavies9677 Рік тому

      Thanks Cammy, looking forward to the sale footage as well as the future scanning videos, hope you Lizzy and the boys are doing well. All the best.@@TheSheepGame

  • @barbroevanderlindquist4128
    @barbroevanderlindquist4128 Рік тому

    Well your fantastic skalet must be to mutch help! But it semester like it is time to invest in very good tools for the hooves!🐑🐏🕊🇸🇪

  • @catherine_404
    @catherine_404 Рік тому

    Jock is such a lovely dandelion! I can help but smile when I see him 😊

  • @kaye-q1k
    @kaye-q1k Рік тому

    I use to do my ewes hoofs when I had them in lambing jugs but quit when I found they did not all need it every year and just did the over grown hooves after that.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Yeah we never trim sheeps feet but find the tups not working as hard means their feet grow faster so we're going to start routinely trimming them every 3 months or so.

  • @s1c2otty
    @s1c2otty Рік тому +1

    I think little bit more care,looking at the feet ,feet feetrot bath ,good as gold

  • @cassandrawilliams4337
    @cassandrawilliams4337 Рік тому +2

    Some man!

  • @simonsheely4036
    @simonsheely4036 Рік тому

    Over here in NZ majority of farmers have any bad feet, health issues then culled, my region has 3m rain annually but free draining soil, as only causes more generational problems. Is there a reason you do it your way?

  • @jamesinnes9153
    @jamesinnes9153 Рік тому

    A good ram shouldn’t need pampering and a bad ram isn’t worth pampering😂😂

  • @jocastaguyon6857
    @jocastaguyon6857 Рік тому +1

    When do teasers go out? Also, why did that one ram have a dirty bum? Great video!

    • @elizabethbazeley190
      @elizabethbazeley190 Рік тому

      Cammy said that the tups should go out 14th Nov and I think the teasers go out about 3 weeks before that

    • @clairfitzgerald8486
      @clairfitzgerald8486 Рік тому

      Come to Stirling on the 7 th of October plenty tips to buy we are selling 15

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Hi Jo, The teasers synchronise the ewes mating cycle, so he will mate them with a blank, the ewe will know she's not in lamb and will cycle again by that time we have the proper ram in. It makes lambing time shorter.

  • @scottycat6822
    @scottycat6822 8 місяців тому

    The Rams seem more chilled than the Ewes or is that just my imagination

  • @brigidconroy2111
    @brigidconroy2111 3 місяці тому

    Interesting not sheep person but think Kerry Hill is a sharp sheep Is that a good choice for your terrain and flock

  • @samrae6071
    @samrae6071 Рік тому +2

    Some team of tups

  • @DeerheartStudioArts
    @DeerheartStudioArts Рік тому

    so interesting!

  • @brigidconroy2111
    @brigidconroy2111 3 місяці тому

    Cool recording on computer Every one has to be a computer tech now phoey😂

  • @Katastra_
    @Katastra_ Рік тому +1

    Need to have Graham hook you up with some hoof care tools

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      I'm sure he has a spare grinder around!

  • @HootMaRoot
    @HootMaRoot Рік тому

    This wet warmish weather not been great for the semi-hardy sheep feet

  • @jamesmason8944
    @jamesmason8944 Рік тому

    Tup with the Fawkes, lamb with the Fool.

  • @neil3352
    @neil3352 Рік тому

    Great video Cammy! How much do the Texel shearlings average at Logie?

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      They'll be around that £750-£800 mark. I asked them to send down 2 @ £1000. Trying to up the genetics a bit.

  • @joannedodds9637
    @joannedodds9637 Рік тому +1

    You need to get Sandi Brock feet nippers 😅

  • @stesaxo
    @stesaxo Рік тому +1

    Iodine draws maggots out. That’s what we use

  • @samanthasimental3788
    @samanthasimental3788 Рік тому

    Those babies are beautiful.

  • @ronaldlucas5360
    @ronaldlucas5360 11 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @Lighty1111
    @Lighty1111 Рік тому

    When you get foot bath in your eye!! 😭

  • @tammykaltreider
    @tammykaltreider Рік тому

    Hey sweet Cammy…remember last year around November 5 (maybe?) the sheep market crashed as far as prices…how are prices right now? Again did you enjoy watching what I sent you? Your babies 🤍🤍🤍🥰

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      Yeah!! We still have loads left but hopefully we won't be under so much pressure to sell. We have 40 acres of forage rape to eat so lambs will run on that before we sell them! Hope you're well Tammy!

  • @donnaparrish7638
    @donnaparrish7638 Рік тому

    Do you disinfect the trimmers between sheep? What do yo disinfect them with?

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      Back when i used to trim a few regularly I used to use some dettol. I didn’t on this instance though. Just wiped them down. My thinking was they were going through footbath so that would deal with any bacteria from shears.

  • @helenel4126
    @helenel4126 Рік тому

    I think about the shepherds of centuries gone by, before antibiotics. What did they have that was effective against foot rot - anything?

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      I don’t think it was such an issue back in the day😅

    • @abigray8585
      @abigray8585 Рік тому

      If it was an issue the sheep probably died from it.
      A lot of animals died before medicine came along.

    • @wendyrowland7787
      @wendyrowland7787 Рік тому

      They would trim out the necrotic area and dress the hoof with tar. They still do that in some areas of the world.

  • @marteencowan4037
    @marteencowan4037 Рік тому

    Its important to disinfect your trimmers before moving on to the next sheep so you're not spreading bacteria from one foot to the next.

  • @hectorskmetija3015
    @hectorskmetija3015 Рік тому

    Don't they fight being all together? I have 3 Cameroon wethers and 4 horns because of butting, plus a few scars on me!

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      They fight a bit when a new ram gets added but they soon learn the pecking order

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme Рік тому

    Megan looks to be in fine fettle. ❤

  • @colleenkopp56
    @colleenkopp56 Рік тому

    How did you keep info before the electronic systems came along?
    Do you need to take a course of animal medicine or does your knowledge come from experience?
    I see Jock is getting on the job training.
    I meant to send Jock birthday greetings but got sidetracked. Please give him a hug and a kiss for me.
    Greetings from Northern California!!
    09/26/23

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Thanks Colleen, so it was usually written in .notes. on our phones but that would get confusing when it came time to write it down in the book. This way all the info is recorded instantly.

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Re medicine use I just do what the vet tells me lol

    • @colleenkopp56
      @colleenkopp56 Рік тому

      Thank you for responding!!
      Nothing like progress!!

  • @Roosmarijn035
    @Roosmarijn035 10 місяців тому

    Maybe putting on a wee block is a niche for sheep😅

  • @craigebrogden1199
    @craigebrogden1199 Рік тому

    The little lump at the bottom of the testicle is called the epidermis

  • @alisoncummins2726
    @alisoncummins2726 Рік тому

    Why do you hate buying tups?

  • @jimmyjohnstone5878
    @jimmyjohnstone5878 Рік тому +1

    The foot rot rams have obviously been lame for a while. Why not treat sooner ?

    • @wendyrowland7787
      @wendyrowland7787 Рік тому

      Cammy is too busy making money off farm, and Lizzy has two little ones to keep her very busy. Most family farms need a second job to survive these days. But I guess that doesn’t help the suffering animal

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      Hi Jimmy, probably a big factor is the tups either just lie where they are or keep grazing when we drive round them, they don't run away like the ewes do so I suppose we didn't realise there was so many lame. Also none of them were like 'hoof falling off' jobs or holding their leg up lame. We're just going to give them routine trims now to keep on top of it.

    • @jimmyjohnstone5878
      @jimmyjohnstone5878 Рік тому

      @@wendyrowland7787 Farmers do have to make an income but they do generally look after their livestock as a principal part of that. I think Cammy explained above why these ones weren't spotted sooner; they were in the field but are not as lively as ewes so weren't seen to be lame from routine observations. It only became visible when he rounded them up to put them in the pen.

    • @wendyrowland7787
      @wendyrowland7787 Рік тому +1

      @@jimmyjohnstone5878 as a former sheep farmer I can tell you that you don’t need to round them up, just walk into the field, but that takes a little time, and get them to move and do things like listen to hear any laboured or abnormal breathing and make sure they are not fly struck. Shepherds in Wiltshire were known as ‘lookers’ because of the time spent observing their flocks. One thing the farming press repeatedly remind farmers is to pay attention to the rams bearing in mind they are half the flock as they do tend to be forgotten. I hope Cammy manages to get them fit for service in time.

  • @beejayem42
    @beejayem42 Рік тому

    🐨👍

  • @johnnyspacetrip
    @johnnyspacetrip 11 місяців тому

    I think you should consider getting help or Do less sheep to Keep them healthy.Not a big Fan of using meds antibiotics you just need more care and maintenence specially for foot rot.

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 Рік тому

    they are big

  • @craigebrogden1199
    @craigebrogden1199 Рік тому

    Epididimus

  • @clivewilton3334
    @clivewilton3334 Рік тому

    How were the feet on your whiteface Dartmoor cammy?

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому +1

      100% on the ram. We have one ewe that keeps going lame. Think we’ll need to cull her out 👍

  • @jamesfox5245
    @jamesfox5245 Рік тому

    Everybody different but need to cut those sore feet right down then treat.

  • @CaritasAngola
    @CaritasAngola Рік тому

    The part at the bottom of the testicle is the bottom of the epididymus .

  • @Liz-M
    @Liz-M Рік тому +1

    🐑🐑🐑🐑👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @suep9445
    @suep9445 Рік тому

    Hydrogen peroxide will make those maggots come to the surface, then pick them off (then treat the foot of course).

  • @Sambardown
    @Sambardown Рік тому

    😐Why use the wife’s garden snips?! Time for a trimming knife, small grinder and a rasp-file boss👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @noelgalagher2712
    @noelgalagher2712 Рік тому

    Robex is good ram instead too many texels out rouge ewe and beltex ram or full rouge ram they make great ewes too great for milk

    • @TheSheepGame
      @TheSheepGame  Рік тому

      Interesting Noel, hadn't heard of that one

    • @noelgalagher2712
      @noelgalagher2712 Рік тому

      @@TheSheepGame i have some this year out full rouge ram and lanark type ewes bigger size then texel a lot better for killing too rouge very much like a charlie easy lamb too great on ewe lambs