The Heartbreaking Story of Thomas Valva
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OVER 50 CALLS TO CPS & NOTHING IS DONE ?!!!!
So so infuriating 🤬
There needs to be a Thomas law. Anything over ten reports needs to be checked independently!
Anything over 3 reports .
Or even 2
@@ook428 10????? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! More than 2 calls from different sources need a FULL investigation.
They cover it up deliberately. They are told to when people in power are involved in the abuse.
I 1,000% think that CPS worker's, regardless of being understaffed & underpaid, need to be held accountable for dropping the ball when it comes to these cases. The State Gov Agencies need to be held accountable as well. These children matter & we need to STOP IGNORING these situations!!!! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!
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This. This. THIS!!!! These CPS workers, law enforcement officers, 911 dispatchers, judges, etc. all need to be held accountable and have consequences!!! Like the judge in this case refusing to believe Justina when she told him Michael was abusive and neglectful. Even if you don’t believe it to be true, you should always look into it and investigate it!!! I am tired of these people not doing their jobs and children being hurt because of it 😡 it makes me absolutely f*cking sick!!!
Judges are overpaid and underworked and they make alot of these horrible decisions.
@@laughingcorrpseholly4136maybe you should learn the scope of a 911 dispatcher before you start suggesting people should throw them under the bus. Being reactive to things you evidently know nothing about just makes you look silly.
@TraumaLlama91 the point was valid,I've listened to many 911 operators that have been totally incompetent in their handling of these calls that have led to dire consequences
The brainwashing them in the car to hate their mom is absolutely sick
I agree. Who does this? This is brain washing and they deserve justice 😢😢😢. I'm a mom . Common sense is missing here.
It’s really really messed up. So upsetting to listen to that!
@@_taymariexx with their cracking lil voices, it broke my 💔
Broke me. How do you do feel okay to do this to children !? Absolute brainwashing.
My ex wife and I weren't always the biggest fan of each other (understatement of the decade) but I can't imagine either of us ever doing something so horrible to each other. She wasn't a great partner, neither was I but she is an excellent mother. Fuck those monsters for this alone.
Why doesn't CPS have to go to court and answer to their blatant failure and disregard?
There was an investigation, but the grand jury found that CPS was not criminally responsible.
@@jacquelinepineau5150 well Justine is suing the CPS agency. I hope she gets ALL she’s asking for. This could’ve been prevented. Mandated reporters were calling it in. There needs to be a law that makes it a priority if these reporters(teachers, school nurse and Principal)call it in. Someone needs to be held accountable.
They traffick kids
im my country any death whilst the child is under cps is instant investigation. At the very least all the cps worker case notes are subpoenaed. At worst the either can be charged personally.
@@kay_el_effDISCUSTING😢
Judge needs to be held accountable as well. Horrifying
Definitely!! Especially when the mom came to court with audio.
Especially the JUDGE.
Yes especially the judge!!!
Yes if the judge would have really took time to listen and go over mom’s proof instead of letting dad have them because he was a cop ! There are bad cops and bad judges everywhere but everyone that fail this child should be punished we’re talking about an innocent life that would be here if the judge would have took the time to just listen and do his damn job period !!!!
I 100% agree
Hearing those two horrible humans on that recording coaching the kids is absolutely disgusting 🤬🤬🤬
And the judge heard that recording and DISREGARDED IT?????
It’s sooo heart breaking😭😭
Our "justice" system and "protective" services is a joke. It is disgusting I can't believe a parent would coach a kid like that
Omg I'm furious
It's the same in the UK 😢
CPS needs to close their doors. No reason to pay people not to take action!
Agree.
It’s absolutely insane!!!
Change the laws and you can change the actions. Their hands are tied and ultimately the laws have precidence not the heart or emotion. Its HORRIBLY sad and infuriating.
@@dholdt1 You’re absolutely right!
I agree with you at this point
That poor baby being afraid of getting punished for seeing his mommy and telling her he loved her. This is the most vile psychological torture. My heart is broken for these children.
Karma has its work cut out on this one.
Both parents were recording and filming those poor kids, the dad being worse, but the mum filming while crying doesn’t put her in a great light either, it’s manipulative too. Poor kids!
@@susiefoxy8130 What would you have done in her shoes, Susie??
The mother crying as she asked the questions broke me. Those poor little boys
@@susiefoxy8130give me a break
@@aeconiglioexactly. What an ignorant comment.
There’s something seriously wrong with people who fight so hard for custody…only to abuse the children.
Its about power and control.
Also he did this to avoid child support payments.
My ex brother inlaw not only abused his family.He also went on Oprah in 1991, pretending to be a single man who hated dating singke moms..He and m y sister had already been married two years at this point
Exactly! They treat them like a pay check or benefit
@@kristaramirez4111😮😡
I think the CPS person who got the complaints should owe jail time too. Those poor babies 😢
I agree 1000%. It's criminal 😢
Hell ya. I had to deal with CPS before, my son had huge bruises , CPS just turned the other cheek. They only told his dad spake him with the hand and try not to use other objects. Really!!
Yes
They all need to go to jail!!!!
The Judge of this should be charged for not helping these poor boys. CPS should be charged
too!! What is wrong with these people?
Can we get the name of this judge?
I have a best friend going though this and they always take HIS side because he’s SO good at lying and making my friend feel like it’s her. NOONE HELPS it’s beyond sad and she has no idea what to do anymore. They just “blow it off”. This scares the shit out of me because baby dad is a POS Please god I pray this doesn’t happen. I have videos saved of him physically abusing her along with other videos. It’s sad that something very bad will have to happen before anyone helps her.
I had an experience with that judge when i had to take my ex to court, hes an asshole!!!!!!!!
Judges have immunity 🤬🤬🤬
When is CPS going to be held accountable for their extreme negligence?! This happens WAY too much.
They take kids out of homes that shouldn’t be removed and keep them in abusive ones. It makes absolutely no sense. Heartbreaking!
“Understaffed” is no longer an excuse that we should accept in any court of law!
It’s incredible. I personally know of a situation where a report was made that a mother beat her children with a metal baseball bat. CPS showed up and took the bat. That was it. I still think about that… too often. It hurts my heart.
@@kellabellareese Wow!! Like she can't just grab something else.
@@tessmoore3762 right? And who’s to say the next time it won’t be so much worse because the kids asked for help.
The judge and CPS need to be held accountable for this!!!
Completely agreed!
If these Judges & CPS workers were ever held accountable maybe, just maybe something will change?? Our systems are broken on so many levels!!! We need CHANGE AND REFORM ALL the way around!!!
Annie, we seriously need to do something. This CANNOT continue to happen. The courts, the CPS system, the cops….Every single one ignored these poor, sweet, innocent babies. It happens entirely too often.
These things continue to happen because if these agencies were truly investigated, it would be down to the government to do something about it. They will not, because it would cost too much money. Even when a child is removed from their abusive parent, they are subject to foster parents who can be just as bad if not worse, than the parents. I know there are good foster parents out there, but it is well known how much children suffer in care. The cost would be astronomical to overhaul the whole system, so they turn a blind eye. Can you imagine the extra resources, the training, the staff, the general investigating it in the first place. Billions of dollars.
They'd rather spend that money on defense and getting to mars and line their pockets with construction and building businesses or funding sports and whatever other shitty thing in comparison, they spend their money on. They just throw these offenders in prison and hope that people are satisfied with that. They actually, don't care, which is a really difficult thing to come to terms with.
He saved his brothers and got them back to their mom. Poor sweet boy.
The recording "I love daddy" "mommy is mean" and dad having them repeat all that crap truly made me sick. My heart goes out to the mom..she tried to advocate for her children, she used the resources provided to her (CPS and court) and still she didn't get help. I DON'T understand how CPS can keep getting away with this! How many kids have to die and suffer before they are held accountable!!!
This is why we need to be able to go to real police and real courts, not ridiculous alphabet agencies with no accountability.
This is the reason to constantly putting the failures of CPS, DFS, and others on blast and fight for these poor angels lives and justice for those lost due to those failures!
ESPECIALLY a child with autism. They may recite these any time they feel stressed and it's the opposite of how they feel.
And then after they repeat all that, it’s then he finally tells them that he loves them. How gross!
CPS needs to be held accountable for this. There is no excuse when they were contacted that many times. What good are they if they cannot even look into a situation with this many complaints? Sick.
That disgusting excuse for a judge too
@@nukanook5099WE can do something about the Judges! We can follow their track records and vote them in or out! And we can vote in DAs, lawmakers that MAKE the laws, and the Sheriff in our area to be upstanding and train the LE to look for these things that we’re going on with these kids…
I completely agree. The fact that the school made some of the reports is such a big deal too. I know I’ve heard that if 1 parent is reporting over and over that sometimes CPS will assume it’s just one parent trying to hurt the other but that can’t be argued in this case. The judge should be equally ashamed.
@@TraceyWales-nl4dm my ex did that to me, and they still came out every single time. Most the time I'd get the same two ladies, they were very nice gave my kiddos a bunch of stuff school supplies, Christmas gifts they said well as long as we have to come out here we're going to give you all the resources we have available. Cps supervisor actually came in and testified on my behalf which I believe is why I got full custody of my children .
@@jt8572 I agree
You could tell those babies loved their mama.. the way they ran to her 😭❤️
And the fact he wouldn’t let go of them at first😭
He's so evil @@meganlaroche
And, this kids didn’t give him a hug or kiss goodbye. & was anxious to go with mom.Very telling
Ugh, they were mad at their dad for that! Did you see one of the boys turn around and go no dad! And i think he hit him or kicked him. It wouldve taken ALL of me to not lay hands on that disgusting POS 😤😤😤@angelapyle7301
Right 😢…. Dat Man doesn’t even deserve the Dad/Father title, he’s a piece of 💩 to say da least… No matter how many times he tried to coach them they Loved to see their Mom, breaks my heart💔
I’m not even 10 mins into this case and I want to cry 😢 child abuse and animal abuse I can never wrap my head around. Any kind of abuse is hard to swallow. But it happens and we as a nation need to come together to protect these kids and hold CPS accountable and the law enforcement not just parents .
people straight up hate their exs more than they love their kids. heart wrenching. rip.
The most accurate comment on here.
This isn’t just some person hating their ex. This is the behavior of a narcissistic psychopath. The evidence shown is compelling and I’d say in a clinical setting this dude would most definitely get some form of cluster B diagnosis.
That poor mother. To be so powerless to be able to help your children and see them hurting. But if she stole them they would take away her rights to them forever for sure.
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I was thinking this .. I can’t imagine the anger and the pain. She went through so many efforts to get the cops to pay attention to the abuse and she lost her child in return. It’s heartbreaking 💔
Yeah but in a situation like this regardless of the repercussions you should take your children and flee. The system isn’t helping you. Nobody is listening to your pleas for help. And even if you become the villain in everyone else’s eyes you should do what’s in the best interest of your child or in this case children. Save up what you can and move to Mexico or Canada. They’d have a hell of a time finding you if they ever did, and you wouldn’t have to worry about your children being in an abusive situation anymore.
So true. It's a test for patience for sure. 😢😢
As someone with a bachelor's degree in social work, these cases kill me. The system is broken. Whether it's the fault of the workers or the judges, everyone should be held accountable 😢
All you can do is if you are told to shut up. Be smart and put everything out there. But of course unless you have to testify it doesn’t have to be in your name. Name and shame the worst of what you know. Just be sampling a vpm at the time. )
This is why I’m taking up social work now. I have a son who is autistic and this saddens me so much
@@tiffanyjackson1299 OMG girl. I know it's a hard job.. especially child protection work. I only worked for the state for a year and I saw A LOT of stuff. But.. the first SA case that I had was a 13 year old girl who's step-dad was molesting her. Her mom swore that the daughter just wanted nicer things (new clothes and phones or tablets) so she made up the story! I'll be honest with you. A few days later, I saw her going to the courthouse, crossing the street and holding hands with her husband. It took everything inside me not to run them both over. But anyway, I saw the girl a few months later at a dinner my church had for the children's home. This 13 year old came up to me and said. Do you remember me? You saved me from my dad. She thanked me and hugged me. So all the bullshit I had to deal with.. all the terrible things I've seen. It was all worth it because I protected a child. Follow your heart. It sounds like you are someone we need. Good luck.💜❤️
Same, i am now doing my Masters in Social Work
@@Glytched356 💜❤️
My best friend paid for the entire funeral . He owns a funeral home. I'm from long Island. This was heartbreaking!!!!! Thanks for sharing this story!!!
Bless him 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@ninajoy3378 How sad that your friend showed more kindness & care towards that family , and especially Thomas, than the Long Island court system and CPS combined. It's truly heartbreaking how deplorable the Family Court system & CPS can act with ZERO repercussions.
You have a compassionate best friend.
@@ninajoy3378 thank you for sharing this information. May all your loved ones be blessed. Stay safe sweetheart. please thank your friend for their service.
That’s the sweetest thing to come out of such a horrible situation.
The mommas accent is beautiful and she seemed like such a loving mom im so sorry for her and these beautiful children
I was just about to say the same thing. ❤❤❤❤
The fact that we have to share this planet with such monsters is beyond me! Unnacceptable!!
That’s what I’m thinking
That "I love daddy" tape is just about the creepiest thing I've ever heard. Holy s***. That guy is a monster.
Right? Like if you want your kids to actually love you, maybe, idk, treat them with decency and respect? I really cannot understand. I'm pregnant with my first child and I already know if anyone, anyone, ever puts a finger against my child to inflict harm, I'm going to jail. I just can't see how people can be so cruel to children. They are such a joy and bright light to have around. I know they can be overwhelming, but it doesn't even compare to the gift of love and happiness that they bring to the world
It literally made me nauseous 😢
He’s a vile scab on the devils ballz
What about the judge who kept shushing her and dismissing her allegations why do we not hear about what happens to these good old boy judges
Someone should start a petition to have him held accountable.
I guarantee these judges would be fair and actually do their jobs if they were held accountable for their rulings
Pedos protect each other.
Judges are never held responsible, same with lawyers, etc.
It happened to my Mom. She was married to a cop and when they got divorced, my sisters were taken from my Mom. For no reason. It screwed them all up for life.
@lynettekrick2324 I am so sorry
Similar to my situation as a child I know what you are saying.
@@BrookeMiano Thank you.
This is beyond repulsive. It sickens me that anyone can treat another human this way, let alone one's own child. The entire system failed these children.
I'm so tired of hearing about CPS failing children 💔
It is judges failing as well
Goss thy don't care only work for money not the children
I was a foster child on Long Island. They took us away for 3 years and once my parents finished the divorce they gave us back to my dad with no contact to my mother. He was the main abuser, but he made more money and had more family support so he got custody. CPS just doesn’t care and it’s so heartbreaking in instances where the child loses their life. Change has to be made for these babies!
They need to start prosecuting social workers/cps when they don't help a child! It's crazy...its all most like cps takes kids that don't need to be taken and leave kids that need to be taken!!!!
Yes, and who the hell is that judge?
Facts!!! They can’t adopt out the kids who have really been abused
These recordings…..how SICK!!!! What complete psychopaths, evil demons. And these CPS workers should absolutely held responsible for this negligence. HOW WAS THIS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!
I am an Autism Mom. I was hurt when I heard of this case but I had no idea the extent of it. My heart hurts thinking about their confusion while being treated so horribly.
The allegations saying those boys were also SA-ed by people other than those two monsters, makes me so angry.
Hi Hate that because a person is a police officer they automatically get believed, causing judges and CPS not to do their due diligence. Not to mention the whole CPS system needs to be held accountable in situations like this. This is just heartbreaking.
The Dad being in a position of power like that, would immediately make me check him out, evil people can’t help seeking power over others! (Not saying all cops are evil by the way!)
So sad that the amount of money you have dictates what level of legal help you get.
In the UK we used to have access to legal aid, now it’s been limited to next to nothing! I wonder how many children suffer due to the mother being the home maker. 😔
CPS will never be held accountable. Like every other alphabet agency they are not elected by us, yet they somehow hold authority over us. This is how we have come to this place where we have no true representation in government. Power needs to be removed from this agency and given back to the sheriff, who is an elected official and can be removed by us if not doing his job properly.
We love the good police, but people fail to realize it takes a certain kind of personality to be a successful officer, between seeing horrible things, making tough call, putting yourself in the line of danger, you have to realize the kind of people that will fill this role. They are definitely not overly compassionate bt nature and if they were after a few years it's so easy to become jaded. People always lieing to you and you littleraly see the worst of the worst. So no I would never assume just because some is a police officer that they can be trusted or a good person, bevause some people just love the power and status 😊
@@amberdixon9777 I said a position of power, meaning any position of power. From politicians to managers.
I only made a point of saying I didn’t mean all police in the hope you’d actually get that. My bad.
@@Lemonie76
The school tried. CPS and the PD needs to be held ACCOUNTABLE!!!
I agree they should all lose their job, including chief of police. I mean, the reports thrown out without investigations. Who signed off on that. They make law enforcement look like shit.
This is the worst one you've ever covered. I'm literally sick to my stomach. Not one of these has ever made me cry, this one made me cry. Nothing makes you hug your kids harder than shit like this.
Not sure it’s the worse there are so many horrific cases it’s heartbreaking
The recording is horrific
Same 😢
@KerrieKruegner 🤔
My comment was meant to represent my personal opinion, not an objective fact.
Me too 😢 And I've also heard a lot of horrific stories. I'm also very angry.
CPS should be held accountable too.
Who is above the judge, he was so dismissive from the get go.. The judge needs to be held accountable 😡
Most states have a judicial complaint form...
I just can’t understand how someone can treat a child like this…..
The excuse that CPS/DCFC is understaffed and underpaid is GETTING OLD! How much longer will these agencies have the same problem? It's pathetic and enrages me!
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They from what I see usually go after people they shouldn't even bother. They miss the real cases and kids in real danger. That's a huge problem with them in general.
It’s sad because I was trained long and hard granted I worked for them in late 90s…so idk how much worse it got? I do know the supervisors made final calls and I wonder how much the judge and Mr police officer were involved with ACS
yup say it louder 👏🏼
Are they gonna get more people and money magically or something? If your government doesn't want to help your own instructions what are they gonna do?
It is so hard understanding how the cries for help from Justina and Thomas’ amazing teachers went ignored 50 times by CPS. I’m so heartbroken for his mom, brothers and loved ones. It is also shattering to hear how many people watching this video have personal experiences that remind them of this story. I hope everyone watching this video has a gentle rest of their day and is able to relax and enjoy time with their loved ones ❤️ We’ll keep you in our memories Thomas 💔
@@AlKuzmenko-gk9kp exactly, we seen so many times that even the schools were negligent, we ask how come nobody saw and reported it? But this time it has been, repeatedly and still nothing was done to save those children 💔. It breaks my heart I wouldn’t even treat my cat like that, let alone human beings.
You're right Annie. We DO need to talk about these cases. People should be held accountable for their failings. Soo sad.
That poor mother😢 she had to hold back all her anger and frustration and love those poor kids with all her heart. Its so telling how much her kids trusted her because no matter what manipulation and pain they got from that monster of a "father" they still went straight into their mom's arm and didn't hesitate to tell her the absolute truth. I've seen so many cases where the children have stayed quiet in hopes that they don't get beat, but these kids defiantly expressed their love for their mom😢
And you can tell she was crying in part of a video. Or trying not to cry.
That judge is to blame for not listening to the mom. He should be made to resign or be fired. CPS also needs punishment. This case is infuriating.
When are we gonna hold these agencies accountable?
EVERYONE failed these children and it’s so sad. Lord I feel so bad for these children and their mother. Prayers to them and I pray that the lord protect the rest of these babies 😔😢🙏🏾
I have never felt more rage.
CPS needs to be held fully accountable. This was completely preventable and absolutely unacceptable.
If CPS workers were held accountable, they would take every case, every report seriously, and actually do their job.
When you said this episode will spoil your day i didn't believe you 😢😢😢 15 minutes in and am sick to my stomach 😢😢😢😢😢
You’re doing the most sister. Thanks for giving all these victims a voice❤ heartbreaking.
I’ve been going through the same thing for the past 17yrs with my ex who is a cop. Nobody would listen to me. Back in March my son’s school called me and told me my son stumbled into school, they pulled him from class thinking he was under the influence of something. They called an ambulance and cps (I’ve called myself numerous times). It was unfounded and he had to go back to his day after 2wks. My son turns 18 in November. I can’t wait.
Had to pause this to ring my youngest daughters dad just to thank him for everything he does for her!!!
On that video of the father dropping off the boys to their mother and he said I’ll be back the baby yelled nooooo i cried 😢
How does this go on for soooo long when there is so many reports coming in from MANDATED reporters.....especially when there is another bio parent that is actively fighting to get custody of him.....HOW. The CPS involved needs to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS THIS IS INSANE
Omg the mom recording her babies while they tell her what that POS was doing to them has me in tears. I couldn’t imagine hearing my babies say those things were happening to them. This reminds me of that treadmill case - both moms are doing everything they can to protect their babies but CPS writes them off. I know there is a court order, but after hearing these cases I would refuse to allow my children to go back the fathers house if this was happening! God bless them omg this broke my heart.
19:51 there’s no way you can look at a video like that and tell me that he’s a fit father just looking at how bad the children wanted to get away from him says everything
Broke my heart and I'm not even related. I felt powerless just watching, I can't imagine how Justine felt. What a monster. Worse than a monster, simply not human. Even robots are nicer than him.
Why is all these CPS people doing this? Are they even human?
No
I have NEVER seen or HEARD of such child abuse & governmental lack of action & I used to be a social worker that worked for CPS in Kansas!! Those poor boys & their mother!!
This sort of gaslighting and coaching literally broke my mother when my parents were going through divorce. He "lawyered up" and gained full custody of me and my 2 sisters and put us through decade of physical, verbal, and emotional abuse...all out of spite. My mother never recovered, and my baby sister died of an overdose in what I believe to be in the wake of his abuse. People like Thomas' father literally destroy multiple lives.
My ex and I are navigating through a separation with a 5-year-old, but we are being very open and very loving towards each other. It is still pretty new and it is the last thing I ever wanted. The fact that this stuff still happens, and you can't totally trust people legitimately keeps me up at night. I trust their mother, but I do not think there is one man on this planet I totally trust.
I watch every video you post, and this is the closest once has hit to home. Thank you for spreading awareness and, if nothing else, shining light on the fact that someone (in this case a mother) can fight and fight and terrible things can still happen. Trust your gut. Hug your kids.
My ex husband has taken my kids too and what i call legal kidnapped them. I hope they dont believe the lies and one day will find me. Im sorry what youve gone through and im glad you and your ex are working together thats all i wanted in my divorce.. is to just move on and get along. Its so hearbreaking having no check marks against me but because he was better at manipulating the courts ive lost my kids completely. And even after everything I'm not going to say anything bad to my kids about him if they ever find me. I just want them in my life. I hope they have been happy and well taken care of. I miss their smiles.
I'm so sorry you had to live through that and how it affected your trust in humans, even though you're separated now, I hope your child will grow happy and healthy!
I am 52 years old and my parents divorced when I was 16 but years of fear and verbal abuse from both sides my mom was cheating and my dad couldn't handle it neither could I. He got custody but to this day I can't commit, I have to be alone, and my parents are still vicious to each other but tell me about it since they haven't spoke since the divorce. I don't know if I am explaining this very well but it's caused a lot of problems for me, sorrow and living alone. I remember thinking my Father was going to kill my Mom and I as I was too young to understand, what was really going on. They should have never got married. Whatever happens do not bring the children into it.
I am deeply moved by the shared experiences recounted in this story. The prevalence of such injustices, particularly affecting women, is a matter of great concern. The manipulation of children as pawns in power struggles is a reprehensible practice that must be addressed. The emotional turmoil and financial burden faced by mothers fighting for custody of their children is a distressing reality.
The flaws within the family court system are evident, as demonstrated by the limitations placed on the admissibility of crucial evidence such as video recordings. The tactics employed by manipulative individuals to drain resources and avoid trial only serve to exacerbate the suffering of those seeking justice.
The tragic outcome in this case serves as a poignant reminder of the devastating consequences of abuse and neglect. It is disheartening to witness the cycle of abuse perpetuated through generations, leading to the tragic fates of many vulnerable children.
As a concerned individual, I am eager to offer support to parents enduring similar struggles. Any guidance or connections that can aid in assisting those facing abusive situations within the confines of a flawed legal system would be greatly appreciated. It is imperative that we work towards preventing such tragedies from occurring in the future.
@@ClaireHarper-ke8djthere is no help for us now that all of the nightmare is over. We went from a beautiful home, to being evicted, (it was on contract, and I'm on disability, his income just poof! gone) our daughter, we adopted her, was a daddy's girl, didn't know what he'd done, and I didn't run him through the mud, she was too young to understand. He would see her on visits, tell her mommy wouldn't let him come home. (His affair with the neighbor, he moved her to our home state where he was "working" I finally caught on to) . And had me take loans on my grown kids life insurance policies to tide over the bills and pay off credit cards and accounts, bcz his brother wasn't working him much. Well his brother was working him overtime, because he was told I was a money hog. Truth was, he was on drugs. I lost all the insurance policies. Because he WAS working, it was all a lie, and everything he was ordered to pay in the divorce, he didn't pay. Took seven years for me to start building mine back up. I'd paid his cards off tho! His was good!! He got arrested, and turned states evidence so he didn't get punished.... I got the divorce, hands down. It got worse and worse, mental abuse on my daughter and me, he remarried and they both attacked me then her, ... We were destitute, he went to court and had his child support dropped to the lowest because he got unemployment. But he was a contractor, cash under the table, twenty five dollars an hour or more back then. We were broke then, 41.00 a week, and are to this day, I lost everything, due to unforeseen circumstances that his help would have been a life saver but he would have rather died. My daughter only saw him three times after his marriage, and he's died of cancer now. She wasn't even on the obituary. I've never dated again, going on 15 years. We're reclusive, she's on the spectrum, bipolar 2, and high anxiety disorder, among other things. I have ADHD and bipolar 1, and the whole thing threw me into depression and inability to be around people. My ADHD is off the wall, and I have no sense of worth to get myself into a positive life.
And there is no help. I see MH, but I need hands on help. None. Anywhere. She is trying to work, but has anger issues, panic attacks, but is trying. She and I and my oldest daughter, (also with MH issues and working for minimum wage, but our state just dropped state insurance unless you have children so she's un medicated) , her birth mom, they remain sisters, live in the same house. It's insanity. Until I can try to get some help with a loan I qualify for, and get into the country and get some dogs, and be alone and happy. We're not alright. Not a single agency was helpful, they just wanted to try and catch me doing something wrong, so they could take something. And I had nothing. Our whole system is wrong. Yeah, I know she wasn't being abused. But once the divorce was signed, we were alone. No help to enforce anything. The child support, his working, , his fulfilling the divorce, she even called and reported me to disability and SSI for income, vehicles, and retirement funds, and got my checks stopped for three months while they investigated me. We had no electric or water, and I lost our storage unit with all our overflow belongings. You would think, I'd have been able to have kept my checks, while they investigated. They CAN choose to do that. I lost my credit, to because of that, so the property and little house we had qualified for? Gone. So I'm trying again. We were homeless by the time they reinstated my three checks, so we got a ton of camping gear and a big dog run and lived on the river. We had three white shepherds. Not easy to find quick housing. So yeah, all these agencies, are hopeless. If I'd have asked the wrong person?? CPS would have taken my daughter. In a heartbeat!! But let someone beat the tar out of them, over and over, and it's a nope...
I'm sorry. I just saw your post, and I wanted to say that our country is not set up to handle the problems that are going on. Our children are falling through the cracks. They are dying. They are surviving to struggle through life with mental health issues and not get much help for that either!! Because you can't just throw pills at mental health. You have to address the problem. What started the ball rolling. Sure medication may be necessary, but you can't mask it. You dig in and help us. Them.
Survival isn't always so great if you just want to be gone 😢. The family unit is so broken. Abuse is at an all time high. And my God, the horror it does to the mind to be physically and mentally abused.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH CPS!!?? Disgraceful!!!!
Tears … I almost had to stop listening. I’m literally crying hearing this podcast. I refuse to turn off for the boys, but my heart BREAKS AND BREAKS FOR THESE BABIES!
Same here 😢😢😢😢
@@PharesyMunshya I had to step away from my desk and compose myself. I have a 4 year old son with autism. The idea of anyone treating him the way these babies were treated… let alone a dad and step mom? And the poor mom. I physically get sick thinking about this case. I … I just … no words.
Take care of yourself okay? It’s okay if you can’t listen to a certain case 🥺
I had to take a break too…
I had to take a break, also.
As a mother, and a human being with even an inkling of a conscience, this is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard. I shook my head and cussed out my phone throughout the entire video. Those poor babies and their poor, poor mother. I can’t begin to fathom the helplessness that they must have endured 💔 Fly high sweet angel baby 🦋
The judge should be exposed and never be a judge again
Cases like this is why I stayed an abusive marriage until my kids were old enough to decide they wanted nothing to do with their father. I knew people would not believe me or them and his family had more money. He is an addict and barely works but money talks. Judges need to understand the behaviors of abusers and how they lie. It’s easy to see once you study it.
Exactly. I feel for you and I believe you. It's because of how ridiculous people are today assuming women get everything and the kids automatically. It's messed up . Victims today are afraid to even speak because of how ridiculous things have gotten
@@staceystrukel1917 For you and I, it's easier to see because we've experienced it and had no choice but to accept this evil does exist and it's inflicted torture is far greater than any words or misunderstandings could ever "over eggagerarate" when explaining the reality to a court of law. I'm glad that you were at least eventually able to get yourself and children away from that deadly toxic environment. I hate that you had no other choice but to stay and wait patiently for your kids to grow up enough, mentally and physically. Every day in the path of narcissistic injury and rage is life or death seriousness. You made the right choice and your children are so blessed to have a mother with super human strength because I have no doubt it was required! Not everybody can recognize that and no doubt misinterpreted your staying as insecurity, dependency, and weakneess, but I hope it helps to know some of us know better! Authorities do need to able and willing to see through the gas lighting smear campaign like this mother was trapped in and helpless to save her child's life no matter how hard she tried. It's the ugly reality that continues to claim the lives of innocent children.
I’m in the same boat, but my daughter is healthy, I will always make sure she has therapy and she is safe.
As someone who’s gone through over a decade of a custody battle, with a lot of coaching and parental alienation, those videos kill me. Just so heartbreaking.
Ditto and i finally lost i hope my kids find me and forgive me for not being able to stop the madness.
💔 my heart hurts reading this. But stay strong, as a product of a similar environment, I remind you that we only get one mom. No amount of slander or abuse could change my love/need for her. I'd choose her and all her flaws any day regardless of the shit my dad tried to feed us about her. Kids grow into adults, but a mother is always needed. Just be available and open when that time comes. Journaling thoughts/feelings/moments to share with them in the future or even just for yourself can be healing. Sending my love and well wishes!! 🩷💜🩵 @sinkingslowlywithasmile
Then the opposite also happens. Instead of CPS investigating actual abuse, they constantly accuse the mother (I’m sure it happens to fathers also) of coaching/parental alienation and just ignore the child’s claims. You just can’t win with CPS at times. This case is horrendous! Wishing you all the very best with your situation:)
@sinkingslowlywithasmile , this is for all parents who are fighting CPS cases. It's obvious that the system fails and it never works for the parent who has lost a child (s) in the system and the parent is doing everything that they are suppose to do and CPS keeps making it harder and harder for that parent. Go to your Congressman and Senator's Offices and talk with them about your CPS case. ( you are a voter, they help the community) Call and make an appointment. Maybe one day with a lot of complaints about CPS, the Government might look into all the deaths of children, caused by the " system failure " due to incompetent case workers!!!
I'm currently on year 15 of custody battles. My oldest is only 15 this past June. He was 2 weeks old when it all started. After tons of calls to cps and tons of court. I won custody in my county through a pfa. My oldest had been hit in the face by their dad. Just had court last week. I still have custody but the county they live in is saying the county I live in made a procedural error. I have court Tuesday and my heart is in my throat. Been thinking about writing a book, wish I could get stories from every mom, or dad who has gone through this. It's gross, and so common. Cps has been involved since last may. And many times before this. Recently, before I just got custody I was anxious and paranoid, just waiting for the call that a tradgy occurred, no parent should have to live like that.
My heart hurts for this Innocent, Precious Child. 3 Children, and No One helping them is UNFORGIVABLE. Especially with so many calls! Devastating.💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🥀🥀🥀🕊️🕊️🕊️
Rest in eternal peace precious angel. Annie, people like you are allowing these stories to be heard. They are tragic and heartbreaking but you are showing where the system fails and allows your viewers the opportunity to stop and think, and where perhaps they can help a child in danger. ❤❤❤
This is heartbreaking to watch. That poor mom n those poor sweet INNOCENT CHILDREN
Listening to the recordings of those monsters COACHING the kids was enough, hearing the boy’s quiet voice in the end asking, “Can I please have more water now? I’m thirsty” how ANY judge/CPS agent could listen to those videos and think to keep them in his and Angela’s care is APPALLING! I agree with your sentiment regarding how disingenuous the boys sound when RECITING how much they “love daddy and Angela;” it’s absolutely heartbreaking to listen to the boys’ yearning for their dad’s approval and how quick and PROUD they are to report to their Justina all the bad things they’ve been told/told to do and how they’ve been refusing to do it.
I know, poor baby begging for water while dad gleefully withholds it until they denounce their mother.
As a mother who co parents with a narcissist, this case might be the one that breaks me
Same.
Their poor mother. I cannot even imagine losing my child that way! I would never get over my anger and hatred for that horrible father! CPS never seems to do anything, case after case.
I am in absolute horror... Tears streaming down my face ...
Those Poor Boys !! HOW is it that Grown Ass Adults can treat Innocent Children THiS way ?!? Thank You for Covering their story & for calling for REFORM ... C.P.S. MUST PAY !!!
As a survivor of child abuse from a narcissistic mother, this makes me so so angry .
This is so infuriating. How many children need to suffer before CPS is held accountable? The system is broken.
This is another one of those heartbreaking cases where our weakest communities was ignored!! I continue to pray for this family, the cruelty they endured at the hands of their father and his father’s wife!! RIP Thomas your mama fought for you and she finally got justice for you and your brothers 🥲😡 #stand against child abuse.
Hearing those babies being coached to say "mommy im not proud if you" was heartbreaking..
Absolutely Heart Breaking! I hope many lerned from this to save children in the future!
Thank you for covering this Annie. It’s absolutely horrific! God bless the mother. 🙏🙏💞💞💔
Annie, NYS CPS is horrendously and horrificly notable for allowing children to be made to endure CA & SA. One such case is that of my now 24 yr old daughters BFF ERIN MAXWELL who was tortured for years by her parents and her older brother Alan Jones. Her story is gut wrenching to say the least. My daughter to this day gets very emotional and breaks down when Erin's name is mentioned. We would love to see you do a deep dive of her case. 😢 So tragic when you hear about any child being abused in any way shape or form. The Mexico High School remembered Erin on the brick walkway into the school by community members and school students and teachers who bought a brick for, I believe it was $20.00 per brick. On the brick you could have anything engraved on it. There is approximately 50 bricks in Erin's memory. So sad when anyone dies but to be unalived by the very people who are supposed to love and care about you, is truly vile
I really hope Annie sees your comment. I think you can submit it to her for her to receive it faster. Look in her details, there may be a link to submit the case story. I truly hope Erin's story gets heard.
I just read Erin's story and am in tears. Poor girl. Can't believe people do this to children, especially their own.
This is so heartbreaking. Her videos are so sad. I can’t imagine my children being treated this way. I’m sick.
My "mother" did the same thing to me by asking me to say that my three year-old brother got into the scalding hot bath water by himself KNOWING I had just watched her do it. She didn't take him to the hospital until 3 1/2 days later when he started shaking puking, and going into convulsions . He had to be life flighted. I had to testify against her at 11 years old. It was all over the news, my teachers peers, random people in our neighborhood... I mean literally everyone knew that I was her daughter. Never really affected me AT ALL until I had my own kids YEARSSS later. Now, I am literally afraid of everything. Car rides make me panic when the entire family is in the car. Leaving the house is the last thing I ever wanted to do because my brain is too busy playing out what if scenarios. And when it's bathtime, I have to get my husband to double check the water. Because I'm so afraid that those same evil genes flowing through her blood could also be in mine. Even though I know I would never cause harm to anyone... let alone burn a three-year-old in the bathtub or trade my daughter's virginity in exchange for drugs. She only did a little over 10 years and then tried to ruin my entire life because it was my testimony that put her in there.
I'm so very sorry that you had to go through all of that! Prayers🙏🙏🙏
You are nothing like your mother. You are a stranger to me, but your words are proving to yourself that you are not evil. You are full of empathy and love. Don’t forget that. Don’t let your mother’s actions control you any longer, you deserve a beautiful life.
Oh sweetheart- you are NOT her. You are brave and kind. I know where you are coming from, darling- but you are not that person. You chose to protect, not abuse. The what-if scenarios are PTSD. Please take care of yourself. You are blessed and loved.
I'm so sorry you had to live through that hell. You'll be everything you wished for and needed from your own mother, have faith in yourself.
God bless you and your family. I’m so so sorry this happened to you. Your children and partner are lucky to have you, you’re incredibly strong. ❤ sending love your way
There's a book, I read back in the early 90's. I can't remember the name, but it was about a boy being abused by his mother is a very similar manner. He was able to survive, by getting away. And because of his story, there's now laws in place today for children abused. But sadly it still doesn't matter, because this story proves that. RIP to that little boy. His father was a monster and his stepmother.
A Boy Named It.
As someone who has been through parental alienation I couldn't watch this video. I love your videos so much and you shed so much light on many different topics and cases. This case I had to stop the video. This made me feel sick to my stomach knowing that this is really real and humans, parents.... really do this. My heart broke for this mom. My heart hurts for her. Thank you for shedding light on this dark topic. It's real and it happens alot more then people think.
I agree with someone else’s comment, that if someone has over 10 reports they need to be investigated by an outside source other then cps
I’ve heard this story 1000 times and followed it from beginning to end. I still get chills every time I hear it. The father and kids live right near me. This a hole got away with it for so long because he’s a cop and she’s not from here. Those poor poor babies and the mom, omg. I wish we had the death penalty!! Great job covering this case, Annie!! You mentioned a few things that I didn’t even know
Only 20 min in and one of the hardest videos to watch of yours. CPS is horrible. Had proof my grandson drowned twice in one day due to negligence, and still no action was done about it!
My grandchild also drowned while in foster care and she still has my other granddaughter 😐
That recording of them coaching the kids what to say has me in tears. I can’t imagine how hard that was for her to hear.
This thing seems to be happening more and more. So tragic!!😢 Poor little boys!!
This is truly heartbreaking to hear. How anyone can turn their child against the other attention is beyond me. Children are so so innocent in these types of situations and the fact that some parents use their children as literal pawns is disgusting
Absolutely agree with you, it's disgusting.
My child's father and I split and we have never ever tried anything remotely resembling this. We decided from the get go that just because we hate each other doesn't mean our child needs to suffer and bear the burden of our choices. 8 years later and we still firmly hold to this. We went to a school parents meeting together and they didn't even realize that we were separated! That's how much we love our child. We love him more than we hate each other.
In this case cps, the judge, the police department are all as guilty as Michael and Angela! They all let these beautiful children down 💔
One of the saddest stories I’ve heard in a while and I listen to stories like this everyday! Those boys just wanted to be loved and their mother was all that for them! My heart breaks for their mom and how helpless she must have felt!
That's truly heartbreaking. The damn system and Judge should be held accountable.
Yep. I cried right along with you Annie.
I've seen this story so many times and each time my stomach turns and the judge and cps ALL should be held accountable!
Hearing their sweet little voices upset that they couldn’t say they loved their mommy broke my heart. What a pair of monsters.
I have no words. I can not believe his defense said well he didn't know how to deal with the boys conditions. Ummm you don't treat typical children much less disabled children this way. Another damn case mistreatment to a disabled child. 😢
And I literally don't understand how other people can defend monsters like that, I mean obviously because that's his job, but how can u live with yourself defending such garbage??? Another reason why our justice system is so messed up. How can ANYBODY let these monsters EVEN TRY to defend these disgusting actions, let alone to their own CHILD
@@kittyleopard1 oh agreed 💯
As a step mom amd one who was granted custody of my niece, i NEVER spoke ill of the other moms. This is disgusting!!!! These kids deserve to make their own conclusions and believe me, they will! This story just breaks my heart!!!!!
This is so heart breaking 💔I can't imagine how this mother must feel...... it breaks my heart.