Yeah I know!!! I actually only found that WHILE editing which is why it feels a bit out of place in the video and why I didn’t talk about more. Looking back, yeah it’s a pretty obvious connection
The scooper doesn't strip the endoskeletons. In sister location it breaks open the moving plates, causing the endoskeleton to simply fall out. Ballora her self proves this when her endoskeleton slumps over staring at you while you try to frantically get rid of the minireenas crawling up the suit you are trapped in. It's an automatic shell cracker.
I have always liked MoltenMCI for how it ties things together with the MCI, and reinforces that Henry's plan is to end EVERYTHING. Admittedly it does have flaws like the ones you pointed out, though I am personally willing to chalk those up to Scott's level of writing not accounting for every single detail (especially when he tried to end the series twice before FFPS)
I feel like one detail thats been overlooked and muddled over time is that one original purpose of the fnaf 3 dismantle minigames - at the time the game was released - was to give context to and explain why phone dude and fazbear frights werent able to find any animatronics except for springtrap. Think about it, at that time during fnaf 3, when we had no idea who William was, why would Scott specifically show purple guy dismantling the animatronics? Why fnaf 3? Its cause it served to explain where all the animatronics went: William took them all. That way fans would be less confused as to why there's only springtrap and animatronic shells left by fnaf 3, especially when we were so used to there being a whole horde of threats. We never really questioned that detail because the game preemptively explained it to us: purple guy stole everything else. Whats this got to do with MMCI? Well it shows that Scott always intended for the animatronics to have been taken and stored somewhere else by William so that no one would find them. Regardless of him getting springlocked at the end or if there are spirits left over in the pizzeria. The minigames are there to prove that William succeeded in stealing and hiding away the animatronics, so by the time of fnaf 3, 30 years later, all thats left is what frights has gotten ahold of. At the time we had no real context of why he did such a thing and so much later on Scott created MMCI to retroactively give him a motivation.
@@jakubpociecha8819 ??? That makes literally no sense. I don’t know the original context of that quote but it’s obviously not true. Scott created the newspaper Easter eggs in fnaf1 with the intention to explain that the animatronics are possessed by the missing kids. Scott added the puppet jumpscare to the save him minigame with the intention of showing that the kid killed there possessed the puppet. Scott showed the fnaf4 room in the sister location monitors with the intention to show that fnaf4 wasn’t entirely all a dream. Scott showed the puppet peeking out of lefty with the intention to explain that the puppet is there in lefty. You need to have intentions and coherent plans if you want to tell any kind of story at all.
@@molamola9723What he tried to say is that Scott didn't "planned" anything early on. He just kept doing new games to retcon the old ones and to try to cover plot holes. I think people gave him too much credit for a disjointed story that is 90% headcanons.
in Dungeons and Dragons discourse there's a concept that I feel applies here. There, it's RAW vs RAI. Rules As Written and Rules As Intended. Sometimes, the hard *facts* of what is written actively contradict the feel of the game, previous mechanics, or are just dumb in semi-realistic scenarios Here, I feel like there is a "Lore As Written" and "Lore As Intended", where Scott tried, or is trying to tell a story, but somehow keeps writing in or out details that actively contradicts the feel of the story, previous lore, or is just dumb if you think about it enough. I feel MoltenMCI was Lore as Intended, but as it is written currently, it's impossible for it to be canon. Now, in D&D, people do whatever with RAW and RAI. You can play with either, or a mixture of both, it's fun to experiment and, in the end, have different variations that you can mix and match together to tell an interesting narrative we should apply that a bit more here, accepting that we don't have all the facts, information and *cohesive storytelling* to actually say without a shadow of a doubt what the canon events were. We can mix and match theories, and as long as it is fun, it's worth it
"Construct" is a very important word to solve the mystery. The original animatronics are considered "haunted" or "buggy". Phoneguy believes they are buggy, or anthropomorphizes them as if they are inhabited by some awareness (it sounds though he's humoring them like how you might joke that the stove never works when it needs to). But Henry specifically calls Molten Freddy a Construct, a constructed thing and that it is distinctly Aftons and not a thing of Henry's own creation. This is important because since Molten Freddy is made of the hollow metal coils filled with molten remnant, the same technology that powers the funtimes, the naming choice suggests the funtimes are more constructs in haunted vessels, or not a singular ghost trapped within a specific animatronic. It suggests the funtimes are each a construct for this purpose and what they are filled with is not identifiable as any one spirit or entity. It might seem like I'm stating the obvious, but my point is how we use language vocabulary is important; when someone intentionally creates a new way to describe or categorizing a thing that can carry with it a lot of implications and in this situation what I think Henry is trying to say is that the funtime technology is wholy unique and distinct; that it transcends the supernatural phenomena and is truly it's own concept.
Here’s the thing I really like molten MCI from a theming perspective with the fnaf 6 ending Henry plan is to end the never ending tragedy by killing it at its source The founders who’s mistakes lead to the deaths and pain of so many Their daughters who’s deaths drove them to the point they are now at And Afton’s original victims
@novustalks7525 That's why I like moltenDCI (after the toys are scrapped, their endos are taken by William and melted down to make the funtimes' endos)
@@novustalks7525 i like to think that for them, they never really possessed any of the toy animatronics and just kinda died yk? those kid were never stuffed into the toys and were just spread around the pizzeria
Honestly I kinda wish instead of being just souls infused in metal remnant was instead infused with the energy of a persons thoughts/memories/personalities and emotions and instead of being the kids they were just copies of the missing kids now in the funtimes, or just put completely new kid souls in the funtimes to make it less confusing, kinda like how cells and organs can retain their original owners traits during an organ transplant.
The problem is that thoughts/memories/personalities are quite literally what make up parts of the soul in FNaF. Remnant are literal pieces of someone's soul that linger after death. It can be something as small as a memory or feeling like Charlie described in The Silver Eyes (the first time the concept remnant is mentioned by name) or the entire essence of an individual unable to pass on due to their emotions, such as agony, attaching them to living world after death. Regardless of how much, it's still a part of that person. The difference is that something as small as a single fleeting moment of emotion or recollection isn't all too important but a greater collective of a person is. If any of those pieces are present, then so is that person that they came from, as they are that piece.
I think I could explain some flaws about MoltenMCI. So for Flaw 1: I think William just taken the endoskeletons between minigame #4 and 5 since nothing confirms that the all the Follow Me minigames have to happen in one night and it can rain for multiple days. So, Afton could died days, or even years after the other FM minigames. Flaw 2: It’s probably just soul-split. The MCI could have just left a piece of themselves into the suits when the endoskeletons were removed since they are linked to them. Flaw 2.5/3: It’s totally possible that Cassidy just followed the MCI’s soul into the remnant because although GF is separate from the others, they’re still HEAVILY connected. Also, if ShatterVictim is correct, Cassidy followed them because they’re all connected to BV.
@@socrates546 Golden Freddy does have an endoskeleton. All it takes is looking at him and you can see it. The no suit thing came from people trying to come up with a reason why he's always lifelessly sitting on the ground, but again just looking at him shows otherwise. The closest thing to that is that he's either in suit mode (in which the endo is deactivated so that someone can wear it without the endo trying to do anything) or it's simply a stylistic choice to make Golden Freddy more mysterious by being different in behavior.
One thing that gets me thinking is the scrapped fact from fnaf ar saying that Rockstar Bonnie uses the parts of the original Bonnie. If MoltenMCI is true that means the 4 souls are split between Molten Freddy and the Rockstar animatronics
I don’t have a link but it’s confirmed that the scrapped facts are non canon. Again I don’t have a link but it comes from a video about the survival logbook
@@purplepedantry Incorrect because nothing and nobody is ever going to be perfect. Also if you ever think there is such a thing as perfection, then clearly you are delusional or gone in the head.
@@PolarioBear I said 'almost perfect', and 'can always be improved'. You don't need perfect reading comprehension to understand that doesn't mean I'm looking for perfection.
Story wise and narratively it makes complete sense why molten Freddy is possessed by the MCI kids. You would obviously want the characters who started it all to be in the final game. However, the way we get there is extremely weird in my opinion.
16:40 My only issue with this is that ennard exists ALONGSIDE the endos. They aren't the same in this minigame, so I feel like there isn't a lot to suggest they'd be the same outside of the (in universe) VR game.
Hey guys, thanks for watching! Just a few things: - First, I used the same Molten Freddy render in a previous video and got accused of using AI. I can confirm this image was NOT created by artificial intelligence, it is simply an oil paint filter I added using Photoshop. I can already see the comments rolling in ahah - Second, you guys NEED to follow Daveon here: twitter.com/Daveon64. Daveon makes me the coolest art and renders that I can use for my videos and he is so underrated! A follow for him also feels like a second follow for me :) - Finally, as you may know from other videos... I like to be a little playful whilst editing and so I've hidden 5 vengeful spirit faces in this video. I'll be very surprised if anyone can actually find them all! That's it from me. I really appreciate all your support as per usual, these long uploads take so long to make and your positive comments make it all worth while. Thanks!
Souls is more or less of ghosts, remnant is soul juice, but it’s like a mix of both souls and emotions that is a conductor for those and things to be haunted by remnant, and agony is negative emotions, which things by agony can either be haunted or created.
I feel like what could explain how the children still attacked afton after the endos were taken is the distinction between remnant and souls. The definition of remnant being “a small trace of something left over”. It could be that remnant doesn’t actually contains souls, but merely the super natural energy left behind by a souls possession of the object. If a soul is present in the metal when melted down, great! as energy disperses overtime, having the source of remnant (i.e, the soul) actively in the metal will make more remnant. If remnant is simply just remaining energy, why would henry label it as prioity number 1? Perhaps a souls can’t truly be freed until all parts of it has been released?
When you mentioned the screen shot in FNAF 6 that showed the give gifts give life mini game, we know that in FNAF 2, a fifth dead kid shows up after The Puppet places the last head onto the kids body, with Golden Freddy’s jumpscare popping up. It’s possible that Cassidy was the last kid to be given life, but because her soul is in a suit that can’t move, she was able to appear as a hallucination. That’s why she’s vengeful. She never had a proper chance to get her revenge.
I believe it was a SireSqawks video I heard this from, but I heard an idea that the explanation for Golden’s spirit, Cassidy, being outside of Molten but still there to burn in Pizza Sim is because she latches onto William during Follow Me (as supported by things like Man In Room 1280), therefore the 4 Endos of the core four being melted into the Funtimes while Golden just hitches onto William would help things out.
Remnant is often described as "ghost sweat", suggesting it is a separate substance from the spirits. The spirit/ghost gets absorbed (bond to) into the physical metal and it begins to sweat the remnant as a "byproduct" of haunting the physical object. That is a pretty supernatural phenomena; making metal sweat. So what if the FNAF3 cutscenes are showing us that once Afton takes/detroys/melts down the robot frames, that leaves the spirits disembodied once more; the state they were in right after they were murdered before the puppet bound them to the mascots. Suddenly not attached to a physical thing perhaps causes them to re-appear in the location of their death like a typical ghost, following the "haunting rules" of most ghost stories; the hour strikes midnight, the witching hour and the ghosts rise up from their place of death to wander and exisit until the light of morning banishes them again. Perhaps the scooper was Afton's attempt to "give gifts, give life" but because he was not a ghost-puppet, the best he could do was collect physical remnant and fill up the scooper with it to inject into the Funtimes, which mind you; Henry calls out Molten Freddy (made of the Funtimes) a "construct". Perhaps the irony is that Afton wants to do what the puppet can do; to basically haunt things with spirits, but he can't touch ghosts, he can't "handle" ghosts so he's had to develop this process/method that sort of an an attempt at mimicking it and getting sub-par results (the Funtimes are all crazy because they are 'alive' and yet have no sense of self, identity, individuality; yet they are aware and 'live'). So in short Afton was always harvesting remnant from the original MCI, but was never able to extract the actual ghosts. Something, in the end (perhaps the fact the funtimes kept breaking down constantly) motivated him to finally try to disassemble them and then melt them down together. But then, as the last cutscene shows; that still didn't work; he still could not control the supernatural, what happens to the soul after death and gets 'punished' for his attempts to play God. I think this event, the night he got Springtrapped, can be placed in a timeline using the answers to these two questions; 1) At what point would the original animatronics all be in the same shut-down location, which is abandoned by all other Fazbear employees / no one cares what is happening to that place anymore. 2) At what point does William Afton decide the Funtime technology is not working on remnant as it's only source of Supernatural power, what what point does he decide he has to change his strategy and actually use the MCI mascots directly in his experiments instead of harvesting a byproduct (remnant) from them?
I wonder if this is why scrap chica, was well scrapped, and why parts of pizza sim, like when, just kinda went unexplained, it was a later addition during developmwnt. Because if this was allways the plan then what was going on with scrap chica? And why was so so far along in development tiny fragments of her are still in the game like the night animateonics starting with 2, or scrap baby having 2 salvaging sequances but nobody else?
One thing also possibly against the MoltenMCI theory, is that the Freddy model used in the Follow Me mini game is the Fnaf 2 Freddy model, not the Fnaf 1 model. Wouldn’t that imply their endoskeletons are Endo 02 endoskeletons?
Thank you for making this!! I've been looking for a coherent, cohesive explanation of MoltenMCI for quite some time, and haven't found any, because most of the people I've asked online just expect me to know it already. Thank you for the solid explanation. Now I've got lots to think about 😅
For flaw 2: the souls could still be there because remnant and souls are seperate,. The definition of remnant is a small piece of something. The remnant in the metal is just something left by the spirits
Honestly I think the biggest thing keeping me from truly believing it is the blueprint saying that molten Freddy is the top priority is unused, giving it dubious canonicity
The cut image of molten freddy is definitely still canon even if it was unused, as the image reappears in the guidebooks alongside the other images. If it was supposed to be non-canon then scott definitely would have had it removed since he reads over the guidebooks
I actually think the reason for that is because it's a bit strange to have a blueprint of a robot that nobody created. Lefty, the scooper and the sound thing all make sense to have blueprints in the first place, but because Molten Freddy is just a new messy Ennard it wouldn't make sense for Henry to show a blueprint of this in-universe. That's not to say the contents of the blueprint aren't canon, though.
I think that a small detail i learned recently would had helped with the Molten MCI issue. Apparently, in Pizzeria Simulator data miners found evident of a Scrapped Chica enemy that would had appeared on the first night. This Chica would had used a FNAF 1 design. It could had been the link to show one FNAF 1 Animatronic didn't get used for Sister Location stuff. That would had cleaned up the Follow Me inconsistencies. This still wouldn't fix the souls lingering to scare Afton or why the Animatronics were still haunted after the Happiest Day thing.
Regarding the children’s spirits still being in the FNAF 3 minigame despite their endos also being taken to CB’s E&R, I think something to take note of is that the whole FNAF 1 building seems to be haunted. This is first seen with the poster easter eggs, sudden newspapers on the wall, haunted ambience, etc. and later on, the movie also showcases this when lights are being activated and affected on their own, and the building quakes and things break and shatter as the animatronics gather together when watching William get springlocked in the movie. Perhaps this can connect with the idea of the “agony” element from the Fazbear Frights books, where something can still be haunted despite not being possessed by a ghost. The agony of the missing children still infects the building even after the endos with the spirits were taken to CB’s E&R, and something that adds to this theory is the faint but noticeable black stains on the walls (which some can also be rain too of course), and something that’s possessed by agony is contains a “vicious black liquid” and so if that stuff is sort of around the FNAF 1 building, it adds on that the building itself is still haunted, so perhaps the agony caused William to still see hallucinations of the spirits. As far as all of the FNAF 3 minigames occurring in one night goes, maybe William brought all the parts to CB’s E&R, and came back to the FNAF 1 location again, maybe to make sure nothing was left behind, or for some other reason, and so the negative emotions caused by the children being taken away from their animatronic bodies caused the agony to become stronger, which is why the hallucinations of the spirits end up happening, scaring and fooling William into hiding in Springbonnie, and becoming springlocked. The use of agony was probably not what was intended from the start of course, but with these elements and evidences created throughout FNAF’s history and different timelines, it makes for a pretty decent theory to tie in loose ends.
I like how all of the molten freddy it looks like he's just entering a family party or just a ordinary party. "Knock Kno-o-ock! -I'm here!" "Thank you for letting me join the pa-a-rty, I-I'll try no-o-ot to disappoint." "OH! WHAT A PLEASANT SURPRISE!" "One BI-I-IG happy-py family!" "Tog-ether aga-ain!" Also there's one line of afton that I like to highlight as well: "Fascinating, what they have become." It's a thing that I think relates to this theory, afton knows what happened to these kids(molten freddy, lefty and scrap baby) and he's admired by what they have turned into, by what monstrosity he has helped to create. Fnaf 6 has just so many love and life put into it, each character has a personality and you can see that when you look at them and hear their voices, that's why fnaf 6 is my favorite game, each theory somehow discovers a new thing about it and everyday you realize that a funny lil fella is actually a lore dump being thrown right at your face lmao. Loved the video and also the theory is really good ngl ^-^ (I literally had goosebumps when the "knock knock! I'm here!" Voice line played and I realized the connection between the two, lmao)
Theory: The Candy Cadet story and the Save Them mini-game from FNAF 2 are related. The story about how the person could only choose one key to save one child relates to the minigame where the puppet could only maneuver into one child and end the game, “saving” them from being stuffed into a suit by purple guy
Honestly I always liked to think that the soul juice isn’t from the MCI kids, but the kids that the funtimes were able to kill while they were rented out.
But that's so lame. Why would we introduce a bunch of random nameless new kids when the original 5 Missing Children are literally the centerpiece of the story.
@@gamesuarx I understand your point but, when the missing children were brought back they had no names or stories. Even now excluding Susie and Golden Freddy if you're generous they BARELY do. Plus, I'd say them coming back hurts the powerful ending of FNaF 3
@@prismaticshades3336 Remnant is described in TFC as "molten metal", hence why he's called Molten Freddy. He's not talking about the name of the theory lol
I'm a firm believer in MoltenMCI as it's what makes the most sense, but it never crossed my mind that Cassidy, the elusive Golden Freddy, is not present in the evidence. It's four to one. It makes sense for them to not be present as by FNAF 1 they're nothing more than an apparition always alluded in other games to be locked behind the safe room with the Golden Bonnie suit. With this context, I can assume that the Golden Fredbear suit might have been taken for remnant first as Afton is always present in the safe room and that suit is noticeably missing, but thats all it is. An assumption. Plus, the souls manifesting after their metal was melted down is such a unique detail thats interesting nobody has mentioned! I can think of a few scenarios that are simply headcanon as excuses, such as "The will of Cassidy was strong enough to produce ghastly illusions blocking the entrance" which implies all the ghosts present are Cassidy somehow, or "William is hallucinating their souls after being constantly exposed to remnant as part of his work" which I think is more believable yet unevidenced (haven't read the books, though I consider them paradoxical to the canon). I'm definitely going to look forward for more evidence to have this theory proven, for now, I'm going to wonder what exactly the Candy Cadet stories actually mean as I didn't really understand ID's theory as explained by you. All stories still have that 5 to 1 aspect that, as far as I understand, makes their explanation really confusing at best.
You know, the main reason for why I don't think the missing five possessed the Funtimes is because they moved on in Fnaf 3. Plus, it is greatly implied that Elizabeth wasn't the only one who met her end in that circus. Although, since souls can be fragmented, perhaps only tiny pieces of them were injected into the animatronics.
My headcanon for Yendo is that he's a manifestation of Golden Freddys soul, in all the previous games Golden Freddy is able to change its appearance to reflect the current Freddy so in Sister Location he/she just reflected what Funtime Freddys endo looked like but with golden eyes.
I've always been hung up on the idea that it had to have been Afton that put the animatronic parts in to the Funtimes. What if he never did? it's shown they are hunting machines, and we don't know how long they have been out-and-about between Sister Location and Pizza Sim. They've all been scooped, they all have remnant, so they have, bare minimum, some sort of consciousness. What if Molten Freddy was the one who took the parts? Ennard knew how to work the scooper, Freddy probably can too. Maybe they want more to become whole. Who knows?
In regards to flaw #2, isn't there a distinction between the agony that "powers" these haunted animatronics, and the actual soul of the victims? I could be mistaken, since my knowledge on this is all secondhand from watching theories (I haven't read the books themselves), but this is how I interpreted the spirits being there to corner Afton, after the endoskeletons had already been taken. What was melted down didn't contain their actual souls, and instead, their collective agony is what fueled Molten Freddy. Additionally, this would explain why we see the souls of the MCI victims get released by The Puppet in the Happiest Day mini game, despite Molten Freddy existing. To me, it seems like the souls proper had already passed on before Henry completed his mission. He was just taking care of the dangerous agony they left behind.
Interesting how most of the problems with MoltenMCI come with it seemingly being bunked together with FuntimeMCI, if MoltenMCI divorced from it at least from a bit and came up with other explanations on how Molten Freddy ended with up with the MCI souls/remnant, it probably would thrive a lot more.
In the books, Afton injects himself with remnant. Maybe the missing kids he’s seeing in that mini game is from his injections if we follow book logic? That could also be how he actually stays alive in springtrap. There’s also the idea that Henry could’ve taken the endos or maybe even Michael. He does get fired for tampering with the animatronics. There’s definitely a lot of different ways to make this fit. so interesting!
I know how Freddy Fazbear’s came back in security breach, and Fnaf help wanted is probably Afton robotics re-branded as Freddy Fazbear’s. They already have a resources and they have a company which is an LLC company which explains that it would also explain why they want the animatronics back, and why they want to scan them in for naff help wanted.
The spirits that get Afton could be the agony that attached to the pizza place without any remnant. The puppet is able to heal that agony but the remnant is out of reach in the endos that end up being Molten Fredy. Then the spirits get fully freed by the fire in 6.
*Cassidy/Golden Freddy not being melted is EASILY explained in the Fourth Closet. There, MoltenMCI directly happens, and Afton also only got four endos! Yet all Five Children are within the Funtimes & Amalgamation! That is because Golden Freddy's spirit chose to follow his friends into the Amalgamation, so Cassidy could've easily done so in the games.*
I think the second "flaw" in MCI is something that a lot of people misunderstand about MoltenMCI. The spirits of the children aren't literally possessing the Funtimes, their remnant has brought the Funtimes to life and made them sentient. Remnant isn't the soul itself, it's soul *energy*. It's in the name, "remnant" - it's the remains of a soul's energy
'Small souls' and 'tiny breaths of life' are statements regarding the fragmented states of the souls. Henry built each animatronic at each Freddy Fazbear's pizza (aside from balloon boy and funtime foxy) meaning Afton dismantle d the human bodies of his victims and hid pieces of them in each suit Henry made in order to conceal his crime, hence the desicration and depravity Henry mentioned in his monologue. Fnaf 2's save them minigame's rare screen were purple guy shutdown reboots Freddy telling him he can't save the victims he sees around him and help wanted's maintenance minigame support this. various small quantities of debris related to the missing children are removed from the original four in this help wanted minigame, a shoe and a baseball cap being two such items, one of each is removed from Freddy and Bonnie over the course of this mini game.
Think about it logically. Elizabeth clearly has a soul, so her wanting freedom makes sense. But they the other funtimes? Without MoltenMCI, the funtimes are soulless yet somehow conscious and capable of emotion? And you can’t say they have the souls of other children, Scott would have made it clear in the lore that there have been more MCIs utilizing the Funtime rental services. He would have been specific, because he always is when it comes to events of kids dying. So if no new incidents are made by Scott, then it must be a previous one
Well my best guess is "Follow Me" events have been retcon and we have no idea what the Event did look like now, we just know the keys points of the mini games did happen, Afton take the suits apart, and the get trapped in the Spring Bonnie Suit after the souls somehow show there physical form. If we revisit the events of "Follow Me" in a modern game Scott can change what he needs to change if MoltenMCI is true, it not confirm but modern FNAF is hinting at it without saying it.
@@Takejiro24 It gets complicated but I hear the theory is that hallucinogenic gas made the scooper look different (though the blueprints in pizzarea sim wouldnt be the same so idk now that I think about it) But yeah basically the idea is it is the same scooper it just looks different. Maybe just a weird redesign of continuity similar to springtrap across different games.
In my opinion, flaws #3/2.5 isn't all that major, as Golden Freddy just works in mysterious ways anyhow. Even if Cassidy never made it into Molten Freddy, which for all means she might've, there's nothing saying that she didn't hitch a ride into the FFPS location by some other means. The 1 in "5 into 1" may not refer to Molten Freddy itself, but the destination it all winds up in. But the issue is how we explain the souls in FNaF 3, which don't even line up entirely with how we understand souls in FNaF as a whole ever since the introduction of Remnant. Remnant directly requires a metal vessel to move around. Aside from the phantoms in FNaF 3, which are most likely just outright hallucinations and not actually the missing children, we have no evidence to believe that if the vessel was destroyed, the souls would just start wandering the building. One possibility I came to while writing this is that proximity to remnant causes hallucinations, most likely even hallucinations that can be influenced by the children themselves. This is backed up by the easter eggs scattered all over in the first 3 FNaF games, and could be the cause of the aforementioned phantom animatronics. Perhaps the souls of the children were never directly in the room with Afton, they merely influenced his mind to make him think they were there... only to fade away as his mind began to deteriorate. It's not a foolproof answer, it certainly doesn't explain the thunderstorm for a week straight... but it's the best I've got.
There is one thing about Flaw #2 that I think everyone should be reminded and it’s the fact that the 5 spirits from the MCI are different since they were specifically given life by the Marionette AKA Charlie. And it’s something that irks me about FNAF lore is the fact that Remnant is treated as some kind of universal law of the world that can be consistent, but clearly there are a ton of outliers. Like sure we have the normal answers like Charlie and Elizabeth that fits, but then there is the 5 MCI kids that Charlie did which is VERY supernatural, the immortal trick of possessing yourself like Micheal and William did, the merging of souls with Ennard and Molten Freddy, and there is even weirder cases like how Cassidy is possessing a suit but is a lot more supernatural then the rest, along with Golden Freddy having 2 souls in it. My point is to sum it up, and I guess my argument against the flaw is the fact that Remnant doesn’t have solid guidelines we can follow. And since the 5 MCI kids were brought back through Charlie, we can’t really say what the limits of her supernatural powers start and end. She could either pull out parts of spirits to form into the ghost children we see, maybe she can’t, it’s very hard to know for sure.
Cassidy was likely watching from the sidelines. She wasn’t present in Pizza Sim either, so I believe she was using her powerful remnant/agony abilities to simple observe from afar until Afton finally died. She followed him this entire time, or at least looked for him, and was waiting to bring him into a purgatory of her own creation. Either that, or Cassidy/Golden Freddy was dismantled. She did appear outside of her suit to kill Afton, after all. She was simply dismantled outside of a minigame
if she was dissembled, maybe she attached to Springtrap after the spring lock, and basically went into like, just waiting. was just there, in wait, and as soon as she had the chance to keep him in her own hell for him she did after the fnaf 6 fire. but at the same time, she was a spring lock suit, she died by being spring locked. (drowning, blood filling lungs). so golden Freddy is confirmed a spring lock suit, meaning the Endo is embedded into the very suit itself also making aftons spring locking at Cassidy's hands more impactful
The music you chose was perfect for the theming of diving deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole, trying to understand both sides to see if an answer could be made, or more appropriately, if we can explain the inconsistencies. We could brush it off with the help wanted retcon explanation, that the first few games were BASED on the real events, but things like the mini games would have inconsistencies. I don’t fully believe it myself, but it could explain all the flaws you gave. It’s not satisfying yeah, but I feel we might need a bit more evidence in the games (or outside media) that is to come. P.S. Totk and Celeste has a fantastic ost
Thanks!! Yeah I try to use music that’s fitting for each part of the video, making it feel more like a deep mystery for us to solve. Ironically I used a lot of fire-themes in this video too lol
I love the fire temples theme, especially when Daruk’s theme was referenced at the perfect time as I was riding on a mine-cart, letting me be fully immersed, it was one of my favorite moments in that game
The point that in the SCUP blueprint remnant is said to possibly be destroyed by overheating wasn't brought up in the video. Since it is stated clearly, that remnant is known to be influenced badly by heat in the same document it's another flaw to this theory and mikebear, and most of matpat's SB headcanon. Or maybe i'm just unaware of other info disproving this, which is the problem with not bringing it up.
There is an interesting theory I heard that you can consider: All the games up to sister location had been all a series of games made by an indie dev.... the lore given through the first help wanted. The games are something that exists in a universe where other events took place and the previous games before the new era is something like fanfiction. In this universe it is more possible that the books lore is what actually took place. The book universe and the "FNAF game" lore being something separate. The theory also goes that there is an AI that is attempting to recreate the events that took place in the game and even having people have the fitting roles. Proof of this can even be found in help wanted where you find the odd robots attempting to recreate the afton family from the games. That is why it seems in the new canon the Afton child seems to be Vanessa instead of Michael, and so forth. I may be bad at explaining this. Look up Stormister's video titled: How FNAF World Solves modern FNAF if you want to know the theory I am talking about.
i replied to you saying to watch Stormister's new video and when i got to the end of your comment it made perfect sense, haha. i really believe they summed it up perfectly, whether it's what i want or not.. it seems to be the current state of the lore and future of fnaf.
That’s funny, because the in-universe explanation for games in Help Wanted is that the events did happened, but Fazbear Entertainment hired VR developers as in a attempt to cover-up the events that gave them a bad reputation, because it’s Fazbear Entertainment after all.
Maybe the "5 into 1" thing includes Elizabeth and excludes Cassidy, but I don't feel like that was the intent, because of the tomb behind the grass at the end of FNAF 6.
It could be soul splitting with the mci, parts of their souls in the suit bodies aswell, explaining their presence in fnaf 3 along with the funtimes. As for golden freddy, I saw a theory somewhere that scraptrap fixed his suit with some of those parts, though he also fits the little sprite head we can find in fnaf4s parts and service /shrug
My opinion on MoltenMCI is that, i definitely think Scott intended the MCI kids to be in Pizza Sim, and yes Molten Freddy is the best holder of those souls, but the actual elements of MoltenMCI are impossible because for some reason instead of getting a second, more recent version, of Follow Me(a minigame that originally was just "the purple guy is destroying the animatronics because Freddy was active in the Save Them minigame in FNaF2) we got a second version of Take Cake To The Children. So many of the problems i have with MoltenMCI come from the fact that it relies on extrapolating so much information from either a book that the community famously refuses to use for evidence except for this one time and minigames that weren't intended to actually show diabolical plotting Afton because Afton had no plots back then. Its a theory that while i feel Scott intended he doesnt actually give us the pieces to make it work within the story. Golden Freddy isnt accounted for and by the time of Pizza Sim Golden Freddy had 2 souls in it, so it wouldnt make the 5 into 1 work because thats 6 kids. But if we say "oh happiest day happened so the Crying Child isnt in there anymore" then the other 4 bandmates had also passed on and Molten Freddy only has Cassidy to work with and theres no way to make the puzzle pieces fit together right. MoltenMCI is the Midnight Motorist of FNaF theories, it needs just one more piece in the game to help us make it fit.
The souls are fragmented according to the fnaf 3, in office minigames (you must complete a number of minigames in a specific order including crossing between several of them in order to free each separate soul ahead of the happiest day mini game.), so the souls haunting Afton could just be the phantom fragments Mike experiences in the office in fnaf 3. Apparitions without true form, twisted in agony. This would also explain why the phantoms always appeared burned, they know what William Afton did to the rest of their form and are using it against him. The ghosts never directly interact with Afton yet he is absolutely terrified of them. Them being apparitions of the pain he caused is also supported by ultimate custom night. Nightmare for example has two important voice lines to consider; 1. 'I am your wickedness made flesh.' and 2. 'You will not be spared, you will not be saved.' this implies a recurring theme of pain fuelled apparitions following Afton throughout his life even after becoming Springtrap. The shadow bonnie minigame is a metaphor for how William Afton as Springtrap tricked the puppet into becoming lefty. Afton built the lefty suit to specifically capture the puppet to torture it so he could obtain Charlotte's perfect remnant, a material that could ONLY be obtained by melting the puppet down while it is in a state of agony. As remnant specifically requires intense pain in order to meld the soul to the metal under the heat. Something with evidence in the puppet's ultimate custom night voice lines: 'the others are like animals but I am very aware.' Charlotte Emily's soul was never fragmented nor descended into primal rage unlike the other 5 victims, so her remnant would become Afton's greatest obsession and most coveted prize.
A further side note up until the post game of sister location and the end of fnaf 3 Michael was William Afton's subservient, unquestioning puppet, he could have been used by William to transport the endoskeletons to the sister location so William Afton could stay behind and scout the restaurant, which creates the follow me mini game inconsistency(everyone forgot about Michael). Golden Freddy's connection to Michael is seemingly what breaks William Afton's hold over Michael at the point of the Fnaf 3 fire as Michael's voice warps like Golden Freddy's when he informs William that the only thing he has left to do is find him in the Fnaf 3 cutscene of Golden Freddy mode in sister location's custom night. Plus in sister location Michael would have been splashed by remnant by the scooper when it gouged him, which is what allows Elizabeth to keep her promise to him that 'he wouldn't die'. Hence the missing quantity of remnant and Golden Freddy's presence in pizzeria simulator, it came in through the 'brave volunteer' and formed the reason why he didn't want the exit Henry had planned for him. It came to claim what was left of William and Michael had to die to release it to do so spawning ultimate custom night leading to the old man consequences mini game in which a garbled voice of William Afton states: 'I hate mike! And I hate Henry!' while in a state of seemingly perpetual agony, until Vanessa's vr team receives a particular flesh coated circuit board as a gift in help wanted, which they scan into the game, into which 'it's code took hold all by itself.' creating Glitchtrap and setting off another horrific story.
If Golden Freddy was meant to be part of the “5 into 1” that would immediately debunk it because of the Crying Child, right? That would be 6 souls into 1. If the 5 into 1 isn’t referring to Molten Freddy but rather Ennard, though, that would work perfectly. Not only do 5 souls (MCI - GFreddy + Elizabeth) become one in Ennard, but those 5 enter into 1, being Michael, entering inside (like the snakes) and being “stitched” together by the remnant of their 5 souls. This would still support the MCI Molten Freddy and gives credence to 2 of the candy cadet stories while also giving GFreddy the ability to be its own free agent apart from the rest, which the games seem to support over and over. The only hiccup is the fusing of 5 keys into 1 which saves no one. I still think ID’s theory mostly works as well. People forget that as long as the a theory doesn’t contradict other findings including it, evidence can have multiple usages. While I don’t think the Puppet makes sense anymore, William works well with the stories, possibly showing three different aspects of the story. He had the keys to free the kids (burn the remnant) but instead melted them into 1 key (to bring back one of his kids or to gain immortality, that’s up for debate) and frees no one. He feels guilt over his kids’s deaths and so shove the alive snakes into 1. He stitches together the remnant of 5 animatronics into 1 and it comes back alive. Granted, Baby was not part of the plan but it works to get the point across. Whether completely intentionally or not, William is responsible for the creation of Ennard and Molten Freddy
To address flaw #2: remnant and souls are not the same thing. Think of remnant as a source of energy, which can animate things, bringing them to life, through lingering memories. Souls are more or less the ghosts of a dead person. A ghost can possess something, but it can also just exist on its own. When the animatronics were dismantled, the remnant lingered within the endoskeletons, however the souls were freed from the animatronics (if only temporarily, what happened to them afterwards is debatable, it’s possible they were unable to move on due to their remnant still possessing animatronics).
honestly a lot of the issues with molten mci likely come from scott not outright planning his story, but building off of existing points. he really doesnt seem to strictly follow previous events
I like how this video shows a good balance for the theory. It is quite a thought provoking subject which I think we don't have enough evidence for a definitive answer yet. But that was a great find in Help Wanted with those four endoskeletons. It makes you wonder how many little details in the FNAF series are still out there still being overlooked by the fanbase after all these years. There could still be that one tiny detail out there that can explain this theory. You never know...
Whatever the truth is, I'm certain of this: Molten Freddy has everyone who hasn't been freed yet, except Elizabeth and Charlie of course. That sounds like a logical thing to conclude. Also, a side note to anyone that may not know. Dittophobia is 100% happening in late '90s or later. Tracable cell phones weren't a thing before then.
Ooo, great point! I love that details like that in our world can help time and location placement. That also means Rory could've been taken back in the 80's, was trapped for 10 years and then traceable cell phones were available. Depends when they were widely available 🤔
@@Haley_Halo there's also something that implies him being taken some time in the early '90, but it's not confirmed. I'll still mention it though. Rory finds out that his parents made a website after he vanished. Those weren't a thing before the early '90s. But he could've been kidnapped before that time, right? Well...he's suprised after hearing about tracable cell phones, asking "They can do that now?". But after finding out that his parents had a website, he just answers with "Had?", not questioning its existence and instead wondering why they STILL don't have it. Maybe the writer just didn't think about that line of dialogue as much as the other one, but it's something to think about, especially considering how close they are to one another.
@@ivon1671 Also a keen observation about the website comment. The first phone with GPS came out in 1999. Military-grade accurate GPS (without intentional errors) was granted to civilians on May 1, 2000. Yeah, Rory was likely taken in the 90's, probably not earlier than '93 based on general use websites. Just after the time of FNAF 1 😅 Wasn't that where Ozone put it in this video?
I think there may be a reasonable explanation for Golden Freddy not being one of the melted down endoskeletons - and that is that GF never had an endoskeleton to haunt in the first place. Fredbear is a spring lock suit, and it always appears slouched over and inactive. I posit that Cassidy was spring locked and therefore is herself in place of the endoskeleton that should be there - much like Afton is. Golden Freddy has always been more ghostly than the others, so it would make sense if GF doesn't abide by the rules of Remnant, and that their spirit is moreso haunting the location - or more accurately, is following the other animatronics around. This is also my theory as to why Golden Freddy has multiple designs within the series. Logically, the Golden Freddy suit should look as it did in 1983 when it was retired. There was never any reason for it's costume to be updated or changed to match the rest of the band, however we see that in FNAF 2 it matches the withereds and in FNAF 1 it matches the main band's designs. Hell even in sister location it matches the Funtime endos. I think that Cassidy's spirit, without remnant to tie it down, is bound to the rest of the MCI. This could be why she never gets a mask in Give Gifts Give Life, and could also potentially be the explanation of the woman with the keys. Perhaps Charlie could have saved Cassidy thanks to her having no endo, but instead gave life to the others, inadvertently trapping Cassidy. Could definitely tie into the whole vengeful spirit thing. In the end when Ennard became Molten Freddy, Cassidy's spirit was, willingly or not, taken along for the ride. The only issue with this is that we don't see any spooky haunting style GF shenanigans like we do in FNAF 1 or 2, but regardless, we know that Golden Freddy had to be there as they reference the fire at the end of FNAF 3 & 6 in UCN. TLDR: Golden Freddy most likely doesn't have an endoskeleton, so they're not a phsycial part of Molten Freddy, but Cassidy's spirit follows around the MCI kids and is thusly a part of the soul almagam. Edit: If you believe Cassidy DOES have an endo or a tie to the suit, potentially Afton could already have removed Golden Freddy from the location in Follow Me, or is even the one wearing the Fredbear Springlock, hence the purple colouration of Shadow Freddy.
I don't believe in MoltenMCI. I get that there's evidence to support it, but not only is there evidence against it, but I just believe that it's not satisfying from a story stand point.
Edit: I'm adjusting the theory I presented here before. I now believe FoxyBro aka Mike Schmidt did visit the Sister Location before Michael got there. The tv room playing Immortal And The Restless is a break room and this is proven by the fact that Ennard will come find you in there in one of the endings. Plus, the room can be found in the underground complex in Security Breach. So Mike used the break room before Michael did. Michael never touches the Logbook. FoxyBro was on a quest to communicate with the ghost of his little brother, and it must've led him to the SL facility. That would explain how the plush Fredbear got there ahead of Michael. At the moment I'm leaning toward Molten Freddy containing the plush Fredbear and thus Golden Freddy, but it doesn't hold the other 4 MCI kids because their animatronics were at the FNAF3 location and then recovered by Henry. Original comment: My interpretation of Sister Location is that it was a soft reboot of FNAF that re-imagined what happened with the MCI. Rather than a serial killer stuffing the kids into animatronics, a new villain William Afton and his Funtime animatronics kidnapped the kids for his experiments on remnant or whatever. Sister Location's Michael is not the exact same character as the remorseful big brother from FNAF 4, although both are named Mike/Michael. See I think SL's Michael helped torment the kids in the experiments by playing the role of the bully. That's why he thought the ghosts would recognize him but they didn't because he's all grown up now and looks like his father. While I believe Ennard definitely contained the souls of experiment victims, I hesitate to define what Molten Freddy is because FFPS aims to mesh the original FNAF trilogy and its serial killer story with the mad scientist story of Sister Location. Maybe this is why the Insanity Ending is called that, because trying to reconcile all the games together requires a bit of insanity.
Kind of late but: Points supporting MoltenMCI: 1-If William was already springlocked by the time of SL then Micheal is talking to springtrap in the SL ending but if william was locked in the bunker then he couldn't have told micheal to go to the SL place...unless william knew what the souls could do and told micheal to do things for him before going to the fnaf 1 location WHICH COULD INCLUDE PUTTING THE MCI ENDOS ON THE SISTER LOCATION PLACE. 2-If MoltenMCI is true it explains a lot about the blob(aka tangle but i prefer the blob). We know the blob stole the parts of the main 4 animatronics and the main4 are inside molten freddy, if molten freddy = the blob then the blob would just be trying to 'put itself back together'. 3-The candy cadet story (especialy the third one) could be about henry burning the 4 kids + charlie(5th child in this case) and the knocking being the fire being a failure(which is confirmed somewhere, i think ultimate guide) Points aganis MoltenMCI: 1-If MoltenMCI is true how about the fnaf 1 and 2 firing having odor on it? If micheal became a corpe after the first 2 games then he wouldn't have a bad smell,right? 2-Wouldn't molten freddy be top priority because of the souls of the funtimes, i mean we know they can kill so what if they have souls themselves? 3-Not exactly aganist it but doesn't this delay happiest day to fnaf 6?(blob is an agony/remmant monster so it wouldn't need the mci souls)
i always thought Molten Freddy was Enard without Baby. i also think Balora is part of Enard/Molten Freddy, Balora is William Afton’s wife, which is why Molten Freddy says “one big happy family”
It was never confirmed or implied that Ballora was Mrs Afton. Mrs Afton hasn't even been shown to 100% exist in the FNaF Universe. Even if theoretically Ms Afton did exist, and she did possess Ballora, there shouldn't be any reason to say that the Afton Family is "one big happy family" for many reasons: 1. William literally killed children and indirectly, whether on purpose or not, got all 3 of his kids killed. 2. William killed children. 3. The Crying Child isn't even at the FNaF6 Location with everyone else (William/ScrapTrap, Michael Afton, and Elizabeth/ScrapBaby)
The fourth closet helped so mutch. There was also a dialogue between Afton and baby if I remember correctly where it was clearly said: they are finally useful, now they have a purpose, they will become something more, just like what happened to you once, and then Funtime Freddy was injected with the remnant from the fusion of the endoskeletons of the 4 original animatronix.
So something i always found weird while watching fnaf timeline vids is that there are 2 MCI's. One involving the fnaf 1 animatronics, and one involving the fnaf 2 location. Something no one ever brings up is the fnaf 2 MCI. First off there are anothr group of 5 animatronics that could have kids possessing them. So why do they go forgotten. People make it very clear they are a different set of dead kids. Now i could be wrong, but if those kids bodies were also stuffed in the toy animatronics, its possible William used the toy animatronics to work on remnant, ESPECIALLY since the withereds went on to be used again. We also see a box of the toy animantronics in fnaf 3 which, although a stretch, could further prove the toys being taken apart and used for remnant experiements. Now the reason i bring this all up is because it ends up working with the timeline. If afton used the toy animnatronics to make remnant and fused it to the funtimes (which the funtimes have similar designs traits to the toys btw), then Afton would probably want more. And the only place that would have more remnant would be the fnaf 1 location with all the animantronics. Now this clears up the fnaf 3 night minigames, because it A. Makes the dismantling happen in one night, 2. lets the kids souls be freed but also lets the renmant experiments already happened, and #C. Lets Afton get springlocked without leaving us with questions as to when he did everything. This also lets the events of fnaf and sister location have easier placement on the timeline. If you like SL before fnaf 1, this allows that cause the funtimes had remnant in them and william can still go back to the fnaf 1 location later. And if you like SL after fnaf 1, well like i said the funtimes have remnant as early as after fnaf 2 so it doesnt matter which order those 2 games take place. As long as fnaf 2 happens first (which i think it usually does). Something else this allows for is Happiest Day to happen seperate from Fnaf 6, cause i always found it confusing when people say they happen at the same time. Like if the souls went to the after life, then molten freddy is unnessary. But if molten freddy is burned then shouldnt the souls not need to be put to rest by the puppet (plus happiest day implies the puppet continues to still be around so why would the puppet survive the burning). So happiest day happens in fnaf 3 like normal. And molten freddy still needs to be burned later. And THIS WAY, every single soul, even the forgotten ones from fnaf 2, have been laid to rest. This is just my idea for how to fix the molten freddy thing while also tying up other loose ends. I could have made a mistake so let me know if i did.
MoltenMCI is like that screenshot from the Twilight Zone where the monster is staring right at him and he's wincing with his eyes closed. Like you don't wanna believe it, but the evidence is so overwhelming it's just pure cope to ignore it. "And for those you've carried in your arms" is the smoking gun.
You know, here's a crazy idea that somehow was never explored, seemingly. There are not 6 souls to put to rest (charlie + MCI 5). There are 7 (elizabeth) or even 8 (2-soul-crying-child)! That would suddenly explain why Charlie and Cassidy seemingly didn't pass... because the grave in distance is Elizabeth.
22:50 The 5 going into 1 could be Gabriel, Fritz, Susie, Jeremy, and Elizabeth going into Ennard which would be accurate if this theory is correct, but it makes less sense that it would be mentioned in pizzeria simulator than if it were referring to molten freddy, because Elizabeth is separate again by then. Considering the funtimes were designed to murder children, however, it's likely there are more than 5 souls in them - I doubt Elizabeth is the only victim. If there are more souls in the funtimes than those 5 then yes the story about melting down the keys does mess up the theory quite a bit I think Cassidy wasn't in the Sister Location bunker since Golden Freddy is never shown as being dismantled, there are only 4 endos in the furnace, and while Cassidy is present for one frame in give gifts give life, it's not that frame that is shown when Henry mentions "those you have carried in your arms." I like Sire Squawk's theory that Cassidy's soul became attached to Springtrap, maybe there's some weird soul splitting thing going on in follow me bc the endos have been removed but the remaining pieces of the animatronics left on the floor had parts of the souls in them? That could be why you can free their souls in fnaf 3 (parts of the costumes are at that location) - you'd be freeing the parts of their souls that exist in the suits for the fnaf 1 and 2 animatronics, and then the souls present in molten freddy are the results of the fnaf 1 and toy animatronics being melted down or something plus there's the fact that things are retconned without being obviously retconned and so it's hard to tell which things are fully canon
If she went back to the bunker and used the light you pointed out wouldn't she just have gotten her original exo parts instead of fashioning an approximation from scrap? I guess unless someone had already retrieved them for some reason.
One thing, there’s no evidence confirming the minigames are reliable narrators. Another thing, No evidence that Fredbear & Golden freddy are the same suits. Purple representing black is debunked by the crying child’s suit, so perhaps Golden Freddy has a Yendo Endo
I’m on board, this is Interesting to consider but it needs to answer two things for me to switch over to this: 1- MCI 2 & the souls in the toy animatronics (the technical canonical animatronics inside the funtimes… at least to me) what’s going on with them? They aren’t mentioned in it at all. 2- who’s souls are freed in the happiest day? The cast that’s said in this theory to be inside molten freddy is MCI 1 or fnaf 1 cast- but from the good ending of fnaf 3, we know those spirits (- Cassidy I guess) are free. My biggest gripe with the theory- at least with how it’s being told here is it’s not re-writing other key parts of the story- I can go alongside the theory but the second I remember there’s 2 MCIs it loses a lot of ground. Great video though! Very professional and found the theory genuinely intriguing!!
It doesn't have to be the MCI kids, if the funtime animatronics were designed to kill other kids it's possible the souls are different victims from the MCI children.
Personally I think that the Candy Cadet stories would be far less confusing if Scrap Chica had been in FNAF6, since that would have resulted in 5 animatronics in 1 place rather than 4. But then we'd have to explain what the deal with her is--
I find it interesting that all of the candy cadet stories talk about five into one and while we talk about the MCI souls , there are only four animatronics that get put together into Ennard. I know the five kids get boiled down into remnant goo and get spread across the four animatronics , but when they are all put back together do each of the kids come back to consciousness ? How does Elizabeth’s soul play into the MCI kid remnant that already exists in Baby ? Does the MCI Remnant turn into a new kind of possession entity when injected into each of the Funtime Animatronics ?
so, i have an idea. i always thought the main 4 (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy) was freed at the end of FNaF 3. so...what if molten Freddy is not an Ennerd variant....but a Golden Freddy variant. it would still make some of his lines referencing being multiple beings work, and would work with the FNaF 3 mini games. the reason we don't see Golden Freddy in the FNaF 3 mini games? they were in ennard. I'm not good at research, so if anyone has anything to add, please let me know.
Sometimes it's also a good idea to remember that some of the flaws, can simply be Scott's writing, he is human after all and such. Molten MCI also kinda explains the toy animatronics in FNAF2, since they had parts from the old animatronics in them. Great video!!!
something i find really interesting about the candy cadet stories in relation to moltenmci, is that the person combining the 5 things isn’t the one that killed them. in all the stories, william would be the killer, the arsonist that locked the children in the rooms, the snake that ate the five kittens, the burglar that killed the five orphans, the one(s) putting them together are people dealing with the consequences of his crimes. the “knock at the door” part in story three, means that if it represents all the souls being laid to rest in the fnaf 6 fire, it failed in some way and at least one of them survived (which we know william maybe kinda did because of the man in room 1280) but would also imply that henry also survived the fnaf 6 fire. the “there was a knock at the door” feels like it could work as the ending to all 3 of the stories, charlie’s fate being intertwined with the mci after intertwining their fates by giving them life in the animatronics, michael being haunted by the missing children, them attacking him in almost every game in the series, and feels most reminiscent of, after he helped them become one, when ennard came to his house in the fake ending of sister location, or him getting scooped and used as a suit for ennard, and the missing children in molten freddy coming to the fnaf 6 pizzeria where henry is, but that would actually imply that henry was the one that put the missing children’s souls into the funtimes. is there any evidence for this other than the candy cadet story? i dunno, but it’s a perspective i don’t think i’ve ever heard before
Yendo works as being golden Freddy. Golden Freddy doesn’t have a body in the same way the others do. In Fnaf 1 golden Freddy has the same suit design as Freddy in Fnaf 2 he looks like withered Freddy. Both of those designs show up later in UCN meaning both of them are cannon. That means that golden Freddy can probably shift the way he looks to blend in with the other band members. Meaning it isn’t too much of a stretch to think that he could change to look like a Funtime endo when all the others are in Funtime animatronics
I'm saying this before the video airs but.... MoltenMCI is as annoying as Midnight Motorist is said to be for some fans. It works in a vacuum, but then it messes everything else up if that is the case. It makes more sense, timeline wise, as MoltenDCI (the spirits from the toy animatronics were used), or if the kids are just the kids that were taken by the Funtimes during the rental service's life. MoltenMCI = The spirits in the classic animatronics were used in the funtimes. It gets really annoying, and it messes with the timeline too much.
I’m sorry, but I never understood the theory for Molten Freddy being the Toy Animatronics when there’s barely any evidence and that there’s nothing in FFPS that mentions the Toys at all.
@OzoneYT just finished the video and.... As for the HW secret 15:51, you see 4 things become Ennard. NOT 4 things become the funtimes, then Ennard. What 4 things do we know that become Ennard. Yes. The 4 Funtimes. And if you look around the furnace, you actually see the casings of Funtime Foxy and BonBon around the Furnace. This is why I think that secret is just showing the 4 funtimes becoming Ennard, not the classics. Why are the 01 endos used? Why, because its a recreation and they probably only knew that 4 animatronics became Ennard. Its the same reason why the classics are used in Pizza Party, even after the Withers were added to the game, post launch.
@Sketch-ic6jf it was based on the idea that the toys used parts of the originals, hence why they're haunted. Then William took their endos before they got Scrapped, and used those for the funtimes instead.
Personally, I dont like MoltenMCI because it takes away the individuality of a lot of characters, be it robots or ghosts. I feel like it paints the Funtimes and whatever ghosts they house less as distinct characters with their own complexities, and more as animalistic feral creatures that only think "kill🗣kill🗣kill🗣" You may argue that's the case, because of the Puppet's one line in UCN saying so, but the rest of the animatronics in that game speak at the same level of awareness. (If they speak.) Suzie gets a whole story in the Frights books, and thats the most detail of any of the MCI that we get. But oh well, I guess we'll just reduce them to juice for the plot. Regardless, characters deserve character. (Oh and back in the day, we interpreted "Follow Me" as Purple Guy destroying evidence. How that would still hold up, I don't know.)
Afton destroying evidence was way more narratively satisfying than him melting the MCI into juice to inject into other robots and I will firmly die on that hill.
I’ve personally never really been the biggest fan of the MoltenMCI. I’ve always thought William Afton dismantling the Fnaf 1 animatronics was him getting rid of the evidence of his murders. Due to the posters in Fnaf 1 we know he was arrested, but they couldn’t find the evidence to convict him. So after he’s let go, he goes back to the restaurant and disposes the bodies, but causes the spirits to be free and get him Spring locked. Edit: I also don’t like how this theory basically retcons The Happiest Day minigame, and I feel like it’s the first instance of this series not wanting to let go of the past. Is it true or not? I’m not sure. Either way I’m just not the biggest fan of it.
No you're absolutely right. It is the first actual instance of FNaF not wanting to let go of the past and move on to new stories. It's funny how everyone loves this idea but when SB did something similar with Burntrap and Blob, everyone hated it. It makes no sense how this series can get away with this much bad storytelling and still have people wanting to actually solve its narrative.
@@OutOfNameIdeas819 I feel like the difference is that Molten MCI is solving something we don’t really know that much about, so it’s people filling the gaps with their own head-cannons. Is it true? We’ll probably never know, but people like the mystery and theorizing. But with Help Wanted saying the old games were “fake”, but then Security Breach having Burntrap, The Blob, and the ENTIRE Fnaf 6 location (including Candy Cadet) the game is basically saying “hey everything that happened in the other games? That didn’t matter. But also it does matter because William is still here, but he also isn’t.” It just makes this entire story so frustrating.
@@Bofrab If it helps, Help Wanted saying the old games were "fake" was just a cover up by Fazbear Entertainment. The old games are still canon, in-universe events that actually happened potentially supported by a message you can find in Security Breach that read along the lines of, "Why did you reopen? We all know what happened to those kids!"
@@Takejiro24 I could also see that making fans wonder what is real or fake in the older games, but yeah your probably right about it all still being true.
So much of Molten MCI comes from stuff Henry says, but how does Henry know anything? Presumably he figured out Afton killed Charlie based on some investigation we're not privy to. From there, he could deduce that Afton was behind the whole MCI, and MAYBE he could puzzle out that the animatronics are possessed by the souls of the victims, but how does he go from there to "Charlie, possessing the Puppet, put the souls of the other children into the animatronics in an attempt to save them?" Has he invented some kind of ghost-tracking device? Is he a medium? Did he also play the minigames from FNAF 2? It just doesn't add up. Personally, I think he's guessing that the souls of the MCI victims are either in Molten Freddy (which he thinks is the original possessed animatronics) or with his daughter in the Puppet, but actually they WERE put to rest at the end of FNAF 3. It may not explain everything, but it does let both Happiest Day and Henry's big speech keep their emotional weight, which I'd argue is more important.
Perhaps the reason why the children’s souls aren’t at rest despite their animatronics bodies being decommissioned, is because they are still tethered to the endo parts. In the fnaf movie, we see the kids kinda like project themselves out of their respective vessels, and do average paranormal stuff. So who’s to say that with the animatronics destroyed, the kids only way of fighting back would be to materialize in front of Afton. So while they can appear outside of the endos, their souls are still tethered to them. There are a few problems with this concept of course, such as Afton not being able to bring the endos to the SL (assuming it was done after) or the kids being able to materialize potential miles away from where the endos are. Interesting point of discussion tho.
I agree that MoltenMCI is the most likely outcome, but i wouldnt be surprised if it was revealed that its not true. I also like SireSquawks theory that Cassidy isnt part of Molten Freddy because she attached herself to Afton (like Andrew in the books)
“Knock knock, I’m heeeeere!” Can’t believe I never got that before now. In retrospect it was so obvious.
Yeah I know!!! I actually only found that WHILE editing which is why it feels a bit out of place in the video and why I didn’t talk about more. Looking back, yeah it’s a pretty obvious connection
I don't get where the connection is honestly?
@@WitheredBonnie In the third Candy Cadet story, at the end there was a knock at the door. Sound familiar?
@@supremedellerior3628 sounds like a stretch tbh
Also, the voice line “ together again” is referencing the bite victim.
The scooper doesn't strip the endoskeletons. In sister location it breaks open the moving plates, causing the endoskeleton to simply fall out. Ballora her self proves this when her endoskeleton slumps over staring at you while you try to frantically get rid of the minireenas crawling up the suit you are trapped in. It's an automatic shell cracker.
"Gregory, have you heard of remnant?"
"I'm twelve."
Nah he 6
I have always liked MoltenMCI for how it ties things together with the MCI, and reinforces that Henry's plan is to end EVERYTHING.
Admittedly it does have flaws like the ones you pointed out, though I am personally willing to chalk those up to Scott's level of writing not accounting for every single detail (especially when he tried to end the series twice before FFPS)
I feel like one detail thats been overlooked and muddled over time is that one original purpose of the fnaf 3 dismantle minigames - at the time the game was released - was to give context to and explain why phone dude and fazbear frights werent able to find any animatronics except for springtrap. Think about it, at that time during fnaf 3, when we had no idea who William was, why would Scott specifically show purple guy dismantling the animatronics? Why fnaf 3? Its cause it served to explain where all the animatronics went: William took them all. That way fans would be less confused as to why there's only springtrap and animatronic shells left by fnaf 3, especially when we were so used to there being a whole horde of threats. We never really questioned that detail because the game preemptively explained it to us: purple guy stole everything else.
Whats this got to do with MMCI? Well it shows that Scott always intended for the animatronics to have been taken and stored somewhere else by William so that no one would find them. Regardless of him getting springlocked at the end or if there are spirits left over in the pizzeria. The minigames are there to prove that William succeeded in stealing and hiding away the animatronics, so by the time of fnaf 3, 30 years later, all thats left is what frights has gotten ahold of. At the time we had no real context of why he did such a thing and so much later on Scott created MMCI to retroactively give him a motivation.
Scott never really "intends" anything, he said it in his interview with Dawko
@@jakubpociecha8819 ??? That makes literally no sense. I don’t know the original context of that quote but it’s obviously not true. Scott created the newspaper Easter eggs in fnaf1 with the intention to explain that the animatronics are possessed by the missing kids. Scott added the puppet jumpscare to the save him minigame with the intention of showing that the kid killed there possessed the puppet. Scott showed the fnaf4 room in the sister location monitors with the intention to show that fnaf4 wasn’t entirely all a dream. Scott showed the puppet peeking out of lefty with the intention to explain that the puppet is there in lefty. You need to have intentions and coherent plans if you want to tell any kind of story at all.
@@molamola9723 True, but FNAF1 was originally intended to be a standalone game, since Scott didn't think that it would become this popular
@@molamola9723What he tried to say is that Scott didn't "planned" anything early on. He just kept doing new games to retcon the old ones and to try to cover plot holes. I think people gave him too much credit for a disjointed story that is 90% headcanons.
@@emanuelborges4458 That affect my point to begin with since this only involves fnaf3 and doesn’t include any ‘planning’ for future content.
in Dungeons and Dragons discourse there's a concept that I feel applies here. There, it's RAW vs RAI. Rules As Written and Rules As Intended. Sometimes, the hard *facts* of what is written actively contradict the feel of the game, previous mechanics, or are just dumb in semi-realistic scenarios
Here, I feel like there is a "Lore As Written" and "Lore As Intended", where Scott tried, or is trying to tell a story, but somehow keeps writing in or out details that actively contradicts the feel of the story, previous lore, or is just dumb if you think about it enough.
I feel MoltenMCI was Lore as Intended, but as it is written currently, it's impossible for it to be canon. Now, in D&D, people do whatever with RAW and RAI. You can play with either, or a mixture of both, it's fun to experiment and, in the end, have different variations that you can mix and match together to tell an interesting narrative
we should apply that a bit more here, accepting that we don't have all the facts, information and *cohesive storytelling* to actually say without a shadow of a doubt what the canon events were. We can mix and match theories, and as long as it is fun, it's worth it
"Construct" is a very important word to solve the mystery. The original animatronics are considered "haunted" or "buggy". Phoneguy believes they are buggy, or anthropomorphizes them as if they are inhabited by some awareness (it sounds though he's humoring them like how you might joke that the stove never works when it needs to). But Henry specifically calls Molten Freddy a Construct, a constructed thing and that it is distinctly Aftons and not a thing of Henry's own creation. This is important because since Molten Freddy is made of the hollow metal coils filled with molten remnant, the same technology that powers the funtimes, the naming choice suggests the funtimes are more constructs in haunted vessels, or not a singular ghost trapped within a specific animatronic. It suggests the funtimes are each a construct for this purpose and what they are filled with is not identifiable as any one spirit or entity. It might seem like I'm stating the obvious, but my point is how we use language vocabulary is important; when someone intentionally creates a new way to describe or categorizing a thing that can carry with it a lot of implications and in this situation what I think Henry is trying to say is that the funtime technology is wholy unique and distinct; that it transcends the supernatural phenomena and is truly it's own concept.
Here’s the thing I really like molten MCI from a theming perspective with the fnaf 6 ending Henry plan is to end the never ending tragedy by killing it at its source
The founders who’s mistakes lead to the deaths and pain of so many
Their daughters who’s deaths drove them to the point they are now at
And Afton’s original victims
Just a shame the souls of the toys couldn't be around to be there thematically too
@novustalks7525 That's why I like moltenDCI (after the toys are scrapped, their endos are taken by William and melted down to make the funtimes' endos)
@@novustalks7525 i like to think that for them, they never really possessed any of the toy animatronics and just kinda died yk? those kid were never stuffed into the toys and were just spread around the pizzeria
And michaels is there too
Honestly I kinda wish instead of being just souls infused in metal remnant was instead infused with the energy of a persons thoughts/memories/personalities and emotions and instead of being the kids they were just copies of the missing kids now in the funtimes, or just put completely new kid souls in the funtimes to make it less confusing, kinda like how cells and organs can retain their original owners traits during an organ transplant.
That's an idea that I've had for a while that remnant doesn't directly contain the souls only their energy, their "remnant" if you will.
Right?! The DCI Kids were right there!
So basically "Agony" from the Fazbear Frights books?
The problem is that thoughts/memories/personalities are quite literally what make up parts of the soul in FNaF. Remnant are literal pieces of someone's soul that linger after death. It can be something as small as a memory or feeling like Charlie described in The Silver Eyes (the first time the concept remnant is mentioned by name) or the entire essence of an individual unable to pass on due to their emotions, such as agony, attaching them to living world after death. Regardless of how much, it's still a part of that person. The difference is that something as small as a single fleeting moment of emotion or recollection isn't all too important but a greater collective of a person is. If any of those pieces are present, then so is that person that they came from, as they are that piece.
I’ve always kinda seen that as the vague difference between remnant and agony
I think I could explain some flaws about MoltenMCI.
So for Flaw 1: I think William just taken the endoskeletons between minigame #4 and 5 since nothing confirms that the all the Follow Me minigames have to happen in one night and it can rain for multiple days. So, Afton could died days, or even years after the other FM minigames.
Flaw 2: It’s probably just soul-split. The MCI could have just left a piece of themselves into the suits when the endoskeletons were removed since they are linked to them.
Flaw 2.5/3: It’s totally possible that Cassidy just followed the MCI’s soul into the remnant because although GF is separate from the others, they’re still HEAVILY connected. Also, if ShatterVictim is correct, Cassidy followed them because they’re all connected to BV.
To support your claims Golden freddy didn't have endoskeleton no? That would explain why there are 4 endoskeletons not 5
@@socrates546 Golden Freddy does have an endoskeleton. All it takes is looking at him and you can see it. The no suit thing came from people trying to come up with a reason why he's always lifelessly sitting on the ground, but again just looking at him shows otherwise. The closest thing to that is that he's either in suit mode (in which the endo is deactivated so that someone can wear it without the endo trying to do anything) or it's simply a stylistic choice to make Golden Freddy more mysterious by being different in behavior.
One thing that gets me thinking is the scrapped fact from fnaf ar saying that Rockstar Bonnie uses the parts of the original Bonnie. If MoltenMCI is true that means the 4 souls are split between Molten Freddy and the Rockstar animatronics
Perhaps it was just the outside bit of Bonnie, the endo skeleton is the primary remnant spot
SireSquawks already pointed it out in his "RockstarMCI" video
I don’t have a link but it’s confirmed that the scrapped facts are non canon. Again I don’t have a link but it comes from a video about the survival logbook
11:01 These stories could’ve been made when scrap chica was going to be a thing, meaning that there would be 5 animatronics
Finally someone who admits that Theories have flaws.
Glad to be of service!
but it's also very clear how this was Scott intended too
Well, that's the textbook definition of theories.
They can be almost perfect, but since everything is always changing, they can always be improved.
@@purplepedantry Incorrect because nothing and nobody is ever going to be perfect. Also if you ever think there is such a thing as perfection, then clearly you are delusional or gone in the head.
@@PolarioBear
I said 'almost perfect', and 'can always be improved'.
You don't need perfect reading comprehension to understand that doesn't mean I'm looking for perfection.
Story wise and narratively it makes complete sense why molten Freddy is possessed by the MCI kids. You would obviously want the characters who started it all to be in the final game.
However, the way we get there is extremely weird in my opinion.
16:40 My only issue with this is that ennard exists ALONGSIDE the endos. They aren't the same in this minigame, so I feel like there isn't a lot to suggest they'd be the same outside of the (in universe) VR game.
Hey guys, thanks for watching! Just a few things:
- First, I used the same Molten Freddy render in a previous video and got accused of using AI. I can confirm this image was NOT created by artificial intelligence, it is simply an oil paint filter I added using Photoshop. I can already see the comments rolling in ahah
- Second, you guys NEED to follow Daveon here: twitter.com/Daveon64. Daveon makes me the coolest art and renders that I can use for my videos and he is so underrated! A follow for him also feels like a second follow for me :)
- Finally, as you may know from other videos... I like to be a little playful whilst editing and so I've hidden 5 vengeful spirit faces in this video. I'll be very surprised if anyone can actually find them all!
That's it from me. I really appreciate all your support as per usual, these long uploads take so long to make and your positive comments make it all worth while. Thanks!
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23:20 which kind of is a repeat
but those are five toyshnk
@@dtimetyp7062 you are insane.
I forgot about the repeat so there’s actually one more
Spoilers
Around 12:48, it’s a pretty tricky find :)
Will you do a video on Epilogue 8
What's the problem with AI?
It steals art
20:57 but the real question is… whats the difference between souls, remnant, and agony. If we find out that then this would make a lot more sense
Souls is more or less of ghosts, remnant is soul juice, but it’s like a mix of both souls and emotions that is a conductor for those and things to be haunted by remnant, and agony is negative emotions, which things by agony can either be haunted or created.
I feel like what could explain how the children still attacked afton after the endos were taken is the distinction between remnant and souls. The definition of remnant being “a small trace of something left over”.
It could be that remnant doesn’t actually contains souls, but merely the super natural energy left behind by a souls possession of the object.
If a soul is present in the metal when melted down, great! as energy disperses overtime, having the source of remnant (i.e, the soul) actively in the metal will make more remnant.
If remnant is simply just remaining energy, why would henry label it as prioity number 1? Perhaps a souls can’t truly be freed until all parts of it has been released?
When you mentioned the screen shot in FNAF 6 that showed the give gifts give life mini game, we know that in FNAF 2, a fifth dead kid shows up after The Puppet places the last head onto the kids body, with Golden Freddy’s jumpscare popping up.
It’s possible that Cassidy was the last kid to be given life, but because her soul is in a suit that can’t move, she was able to appear as a hallucination. That’s why she’s vengeful. She never had a proper chance to get her revenge.
I believe it was a SireSqawks video I heard this from, but I heard an idea that the explanation for Golden’s spirit, Cassidy, being outside of Molten but still there to burn in Pizza Sim is because she latches onto William during Follow Me (as supported by things like Man In Room 1280), therefore the 4 Endos of the core four being melted into the Funtimes while Golden just hitches onto William would help things out.
Yes! That's Sire Squawk's "Molten MCI: Alter-S" theory.
Remnant is often described as "ghost sweat", suggesting it is a separate substance from the spirits. The spirit/ghost gets absorbed (bond to) into the physical metal and it begins to sweat the remnant as a "byproduct" of haunting the physical object. That is a pretty supernatural phenomena; making metal sweat. So what if the FNAF3 cutscenes are showing us that once Afton takes/detroys/melts down the robot frames, that leaves the spirits disembodied once more; the state they were in right after they were murdered before the puppet bound them to the mascots. Suddenly not attached to a physical thing perhaps causes them to re-appear in the location of their death like a typical ghost, following the "haunting rules" of most ghost stories; the hour strikes midnight, the witching hour and the ghosts rise up from their place of death to wander and exisit until the light of morning banishes them again.
Perhaps the scooper was Afton's attempt to "give gifts, give life" but because he was not a ghost-puppet, the best he could do was collect physical remnant and fill up the scooper with it to inject into the Funtimes, which mind you; Henry calls out Molten Freddy (made of the Funtimes) a "construct". Perhaps the irony is that Afton wants to do what the puppet can do; to basically haunt things with spirits, but he can't touch ghosts, he can't "handle" ghosts so he's had to develop this process/method that sort of an an attempt at mimicking it and getting sub-par results (the Funtimes are all crazy because they are 'alive' and yet have no sense of self, identity, individuality; yet they are aware and 'live').
So in short Afton was always harvesting remnant from the original MCI, but was never able to extract the actual ghosts. Something, in the end (perhaps the fact the funtimes kept breaking down constantly) motivated him to finally try to disassemble them and then melt them down together. But then, as the last cutscene shows; that still didn't work; he still could not control the supernatural, what happens to the soul after death and gets 'punished' for his attempts to play God. I think this event, the night he got Springtrapped, can be placed in a timeline using the answers to these two questions;
1) At what point would the original animatronics all be in the same shut-down location, which is abandoned by all other Fazbear employees / no one cares what is happening to that place anymore.
2) At what point does William Afton decide the Funtime technology is not working on remnant as it's only source of Supernatural power, what what point does he decide he has to change his strategy and actually use the MCI mascots directly in his experiments instead of harvesting a byproduct (remnant) from them?
I wonder if this is why scrap chica, was well scrapped, and why parts of pizza sim, like when, just kinda went unexplained, it was a later addition during developmwnt. Because if this was allways the plan then what was going on with scrap chica? And why was so so far along in development tiny fragments of her are still in the game like the night animateonics starting with 2, or scrap baby having 2 salvaging sequances but nobody else?
One thing also possibly against the MoltenMCI theory, is that the Freddy model used in the Follow Me mini game is the Fnaf 2 Freddy model, not the Fnaf 1 model. Wouldn’t that imply their endoskeletons are Endo 02 endoskeletons?
Thank you for making this!! I've been looking for a coherent, cohesive explanation of MoltenMCI for quite some time, and haven't found any, because most of the people I've asked online just expect me to know it already. Thank you for the solid explanation. Now I've got lots to think about 😅
Glad I could help!! :)
For flaw 2: the souls could still be there because remnant and souls are seperate,. The definition of remnant is a small piece of something. The remnant in the metal is just something left by the spirits
Honestly I think the biggest thing keeping me from truly believing it is the blueprint saying that molten Freddy is the top priority is unused, giving it dubious canonicity
The cut image of molten freddy is definitely still canon even if it was unused, as the image reappears in the guidebooks alongside the other images.
If it was supposed to be non-canon then scott definitely would have had it removed since he reads over the guidebooks
I actually think the reason for that is because it's a bit strange to have a blueprint of a robot that nobody created. Lefty, the scooper and the sound thing all make sense to have blueprints in the first place, but because Molten Freddy is just a new messy Ennard it wouldn't make sense for Henry to show a blueprint of this in-universe. That's not to say the contents of the blueprint aren't canon, though.
@@OzoneYTunless the blueprints were more like a dossier when pertaining to Molten Freddy, but that is also just as dubious because it’s out of place.
@@OzoneYT idk, I’m just cautious when it comes to using cut content for stuff like this
I think that a small detail i learned recently would had helped with the Molten MCI issue. Apparently, in Pizzeria Simulator data miners found evident of a Scrapped Chica enemy that would had appeared on the first night. This Chica would had used a FNAF 1 design. It could had been the link to show one FNAF 1 Animatronic didn't get used for Sister Location stuff. That would had cleaned up the Follow Me inconsistencies.
This still wouldn't fix the souls lingering to scare Afton or why the Animatronics were still haunted after the Happiest Day thing.
Regarding the children’s spirits still being in the FNAF 3 minigame despite their endos also being taken to CB’s E&R, I think something to take note of is that the whole FNAF 1 building seems to be haunted. This is first seen with the poster easter eggs, sudden newspapers on the wall, haunted ambience, etc. and later on, the movie also showcases this when lights are being activated and affected on their own, and the building quakes and things break and shatter as the animatronics gather together when watching William get springlocked in the movie.
Perhaps this can connect with the idea of the “agony” element from the Fazbear Frights books, where something can still be haunted despite not being possessed by a ghost. The agony of the missing children still infects the building even after the endos with the spirits were taken to CB’s E&R, and something that adds to this theory is the faint but noticeable black stains on the walls (which some can also be rain too of course), and something that’s possessed by agony is contains a “vicious black liquid” and so if that stuff is sort of around the FNAF 1 building, it adds on that the building itself is still haunted, so perhaps the agony caused William to still see hallucinations of the spirits.
As far as all of the FNAF 3 minigames occurring in one night goes, maybe William brought all the parts to CB’s E&R, and came back to the FNAF 1 location again, maybe to make sure nothing was left behind, or for some other reason, and so the negative emotions caused by the children being taken away from their animatronic bodies caused the agony to become stronger, which is why the hallucinations of the spirits end up happening, scaring and fooling William into hiding in Springbonnie, and becoming springlocked.
The use of agony was probably not what was intended from the start of course, but with these elements and evidences created throughout FNAF’s history and different timelines, it makes for a pretty decent theory to tie in loose ends.
I can’t believe this comment only has two likes! This makes so much sense
I love how Molten Freddy is considered the top priority and biggest threat during FNAF 6 when it looks like a gust of wind could destroy him
I like how all of the molten freddy it looks like he's just entering a family party or just a ordinary party.
"Knock Kno-o-ock! -I'm here!"
"Thank you for letting me join the pa-a-rty, I-I'll try no-o-ot to disappoint."
"OH! WHAT A PLEASANT SURPRISE!"
"One BI-I-IG happy-py family!"
"Tog-ether aga-ain!"
Also there's one line of afton that I like to highlight as well:
"Fascinating, what they have become."
It's a thing that I think relates to this theory, afton knows what happened to these kids(molten freddy, lefty and scrap baby) and he's admired by what they have turned into, by what monstrosity he has helped to create.
Fnaf 6 has just so many love and life put into it, each character has a personality and you can see that when you look at them and hear their voices, that's why fnaf 6 is my favorite game, each theory somehow discovers a new thing about it and everyday you realize that a funny lil fella is actually a lore dump being thrown right at your face lmao.
Loved the video and also the theory is really good ngl ^-^
(I literally had goosebumps when the "knock knock! I'm here!" Voice line played and I realized the connection between the two, lmao)
Theory: The Candy Cadet story and the Save Them mini-game from FNAF 2 are related.
The story about how the person could only choose one key to save one child relates to the minigame where the puppet could only maneuver into one child and end the game, “saving” them from being stuffed into a suit by purple guy
Honestly I always liked to think that the soul juice isn’t from the MCI kids, but the kids that the funtimes were able to kill while they were rented out.
But that's so lame. Why would we introduce a bunch of random nameless new kids when the original 5 Missing Children are literally the centerpiece of the story.
Exactly @@gamesuarx
@@gamesuarx But didn’t that happen in Fnaf 2? During the “save them” mini game?
@@gamesuarx I understand your point but, when the missing children were brought back they had no names or stories. Even now excluding Susie and Golden Freddy if you're generous they BARELY do. Plus, I'd say them coming back hurts the powerful ending of FNaF 3
@@ark_awaits3367 exactly
It's a cool idea and it's canoncity is pretty much cemented since they renamed ennard to molten freddy
Except this theory sprouted after Molten Freddy was already revealed?
@@prismaticshades3336 yeah and?
@@novustalks7525 So renaming it to Molten Freddy happened before the theory
Theory is named after Molten, not the other way around.
@@prismaticshades3336 Remnant is described in TFC as "molten metal", hence why he's called Molten Freddy. He's not talking about the name of the theory lol
@@chief-executive That makes a lot more sense lol
Havent read the og trilogy in millenia
I'm a firm believer in MoltenMCI as it's what makes the most sense, but it never crossed my mind that Cassidy, the elusive Golden Freddy, is not present in the evidence. It's four to one.
It makes sense for them to not be present as by FNAF 1 they're nothing more than an apparition always alluded in other games to be locked behind the safe room with the Golden Bonnie suit. With this context, I can assume that the Golden Fredbear suit might have been taken for remnant first as Afton is always present in the safe room and that suit is noticeably missing, but thats all it is. An assumption.
Plus, the souls manifesting after their metal was melted down is such a unique detail thats interesting nobody has mentioned! I can think of a few scenarios that are simply headcanon as excuses, such as "The will of Cassidy was strong enough to produce ghastly illusions blocking the entrance" which implies all the ghosts present are Cassidy somehow, or "William is hallucinating their souls after being constantly exposed to remnant as part of his work" which I think is more believable yet unevidenced (haven't read the books, though I consider them paradoxical to the canon).
I'm definitely going to look forward for more evidence to have this theory proven, for now, I'm going to wonder what exactly the Candy Cadet stories actually mean as I didn't really understand ID's theory as explained by you. All stories still have that 5 to 1 aspect that, as far as I understand, makes their explanation really confusing at best.
You know, the main reason for why I don't think the missing five possessed the Funtimes is because they moved on in Fnaf 3. Plus, it is greatly implied that Elizabeth wasn't the only one who met her end in that circus. Although, since souls can be fragmented, perhaps only tiny pieces of them were injected into the animatronics.
My headcanon for Yendo is that he's a manifestation of Golden Freddys soul, in all the previous games Golden Freddy is able to change its appearance to reflect the current Freddy so in Sister Location he/she just reflected what Funtime Freddys endo looked like but with golden eyes.
I've always been hung up on the idea that it had to have been Afton that put the animatronic parts in to the Funtimes. What if he never did? it's shown they are hunting machines, and we don't know how long they have been out-and-about between Sister Location and Pizza Sim. They've all been scooped, they all have remnant, so they have, bare minimum, some sort of consciousness. What if Molten Freddy was the one who took the parts? Ennard knew how to work the scooper, Freddy probably can too. Maybe they want more to become whole. Who knows?
I feel like Cassidy not being burnt has something to do with ucn so she can torment afton
Cassidy not the vengeful spirit that Andrew.
In regards to flaw #2, isn't there a distinction between the agony that "powers" these haunted animatronics, and the actual soul of the victims? I could be mistaken, since my knowledge on this is all secondhand from watching theories (I haven't read the books themselves), but this is how I interpreted the spirits being there to corner Afton, after the endoskeletons had already been taken. What was melted down didn't contain their actual souls, and instead, their collective agony is what fueled Molten Freddy.
Additionally, this would explain why we see the souls of the MCI victims get released by The Puppet in the Happiest Day mini game, despite Molten Freddy existing. To me, it seems like the souls proper had already passed on before Henry completed his mission. He was just taking care of the dangerous agony they left behind.
Interesting how most of the problems with MoltenMCI come with it seemingly being bunked together with FuntimeMCI, if MoltenMCI divorced from it at least from a bit and came up with other explanations on how Molten Freddy ended with up with the MCI souls/remnant, it probably would thrive a lot more.
In the books, Afton injects himself with remnant. Maybe the missing kids he’s seeing in that mini game is from his injections if we follow book logic? That could also be how he actually stays alive in springtrap. There’s also the idea that Henry could’ve taken the endos or maybe even Michael. He does get fired for tampering with the animatronics. There’s definitely a lot of different ways to make this fit. so interesting!
I know how Freddy Fazbear’s came back in security breach, and Fnaf help wanted is probably Afton robotics re-branded as Freddy Fazbear’s. They already have a resources and they have a company which is an LLC company which explains that it would also explain why they want the animatronics back, and why they want to scan them in for naff help wanted.
It also explains how Freddy Fazbear’s can come back after Henry dissolved it
This explains what happens after the events of FANF six
I think when Michael said "I put her back together, just like you asked me to" he was referring to Elizabeth and her alone
The spirits that get Afton could be the agony that attached to the pizza place without any remnant. The puppet is able to heal that agony but the remnant is out of reach in the endos that end up being Molten Fredy. Then the spirits get fully freed by the fire in 6.
*Cassidy/Golden Freddy not being melted is EASILY explained in the Fourth Closet. There, MoltenMCI directly happens, and Afton also only got four endos! Yet all Five Children are within the Funtimes & Amalgamation! That is because Golden Freddy's spirit chose to follow his friends into the Amalgamation, so Cassidy could've easily done so in the games.*
I think the second "flaw" in MCI is something that a lot of people misunderstand about MoltenMCI. The spirits of the children aren't literally possessing the Funtimes, their remnant has brought the Funtimes to life and made them sentient. Remnant isn't the soul itself, it's soul *energy*. It's in the name, "remnant" - it's the remains of a soul's energy
'Small souls' and 'tiny breaths of life' are statements regarding the fragmented states of the souls. Henry built each animatronic at each Freddy Fazbear's pizza (aside from balloon boy and funtime foxy) meaning Afton dismantle d the human bodies of his victims and hid pieces of them in each suit Henry made in order to conceal his crime, hence the desicration and depravity Henry mentioned in his monologue. Fnaf 2's save them minigame's rare screen were purple guy shutdown reboots Freddy telling him he can't save the victims he sees around him and help wanted's maintenance minigame support this. various small quantities of debris related to the missing children are removed from the original four in this help wanted minigame, a shoe and a baseball cap being two such items, one of each is removed from Freddy and Bonnie over the course of this mini game.
Think about it logically. Elizabeth clearly has a soul, so her wanting freedom makes sense. But they the other funtimes? Without MoltenMCI, the funtimes are soulless yet somehow conscious and capable of emotion? And you can’t say they have the souls of other children, Scott would have made it clear in the lore that there have been more MCIs utilizing the Funtime rental services. He would have been specific, because he always is when it comes to events of kids dying. So if no new incidents are made by Scott, then it must be a previous one
Well my best guess is "Follow Me" events have been retcon and we have no idea what the Event did look like now, we just know the keys points of the mini games did happen, Afton take the suits apart, and the get trapped in the Spring Bonnie Suit after the souls somehow show there physical form. If we revisit the events of "Follow Me" in a modern game Scott can change what he needs to change if MoltenMCI is true, it not confirm but modern FNAF is hinting at it without saying it.
Oh sort of like how the scooper looks completely different in security breach?
@Yipper64 for that you should watch Stormister's newest theory, one of the things they touch on is the scooper from Ruin maybe being the real scooper
@@Yipper64 Is the Scooper in Ruin not a completely different one? Or maybe the old Scooper that was given an updated design?
@@Takejiro24 It gets complicated but I hear the theory is that hallucinogenic gas made the scooper look different (though the blueprints in pizzarea sim wouldnt be the same so idk now that I think about it)
But yeah basically the idea is it is the same scooper it just looks different. Maybe just a weird redesign of continuity similar to springtrap across different games.
In my opinion, flaws #3/2.5 isn't all that major, as Golden Freddy just works in mysterious ways anyhow. Even if Cassidy never made it into Molten Freddy, which for all means she might've, there's nothing saying that she didn't hitch a ride into the FFPS location by some other means. The 1 in "5 into 1" may not refer to Molten Freddy itself, but the destination it all winds up in.
But the issue is how we explain the souls in FNaF 3, which don't even line up entirely with how we understand souls in FNaF as a whole ever since the introduction of Remnant.
Remnant directly requires a metal vessel to move around. Aside from the phantoms in FNaF 3, which are most likely just outright hallucinations and not actually the missing children, we have no evidence to believe that if the vessel was destroyed, the souls would just start wandering the building.
One possibility I came to while writing this is that proximity to remnant causes hallucinations, most likely even hallucinations that can be influenced by the children themselves. This is backed up by the easter eggs scattered all over in the first 3 FNaF games, and could be the cause of the aforementioned phantom animatronics. Perhaps the souls of the children were never directly in the room with Afton, they merely influenced his mind to make him think they were there... only to fade away as his mind began to deteriorate.
It's not a foolproof answer, it certainly doesn't explain the thunderstorm for a week straight... but it's the best I've got.
There is one thing about Flaw #2 that I think everyone should be reminded and it’s the fact that the 5 spirits from the MCI are different since they were specifically given life by the Marionette AKA Charlie. And it’s something that irks me about FNAF lore is the fact that Remnant is treated as some kind of universal law of the world that can be consistent, but clearly there are a ton of outliers. Like sure we have the normal answers like Charlie and Elizabeth that fits, but then there is the 5 MCI kids that Charlie did which is VERY supernatural, the immortal trick of possessing yourself like Micheal and William did, the merging of souls with Ennard and Molten Freddy, and there is even weirder cases like how Cassidy is possessing a suit but is a lot more supernatural then the rest, along with Golden Freddy having 2 souls in it.
My point is to sum it up, and I guess my argument against the flaw is the fact that Remnant doesn’t have solid guidelines we can follow. And since the 5 MCI kids were brought back through Charlie, we can’t really say what the limits of her supernatural powers start and end. She could either pull out parts of spirits to form into the ghost children we see, maybe she can’t, it’s very hard to know for sure.
Cassidy was likely watching from the sidelines. She wasn’t present in Pizza Sim either, so I believe she was using her powerful remnant/agony abilities to simple observe from afar until Afton finally died. She followed him this entire time, or at least looked for him, and was waiting to bring him into a purgatory of her own creation.
Either that, or Cassidy/Golden Freddy was dismantled. She did appear outside of her suit to kill Afton, after all. She was simply dismantled outside of a minigame
if she was dissembled, maybe she attached to Springtrap after the spring lock, and basically went into like, just waiting. was just there, in wait, and as soon as she had the chance to keep him in her own hell for him she did after the fnaf 6 fire.
but at the same time, she was a spring lock suit, she died by being spring locked. (drowning, blood filling lungs). so golden Freddy is confirmed a spring lock suit, meaning the Endo is embedded into the very suit itself
also making aftons spring locking at Cassidy's hands more impactful
The music you chose was perfect for the theming of diving deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole, trying to understand both sides to see if an answer could be made, or more appropriately, if we can explain the inconsistencies. We could brush it off with the help wanted retcon explanation, that the first few games were BASED on the real events, but things like the mini games would have inconsistencies. I don’t fully believe it myself, but it could explain all the flaws you gave. It’s not satisfying yeah, but I feel we might need a bit more evidence in the games (or outside media) that is to come.
P.S. Totk and Celeste has a fantastic ost
Thanks!! Yeah I try to use music that’s fitting for each part of the video, making it feel more like a deep mystery for us to solve. Ironically I used a lot of fire-themes in this video too lol
I love the fire temples theme, especially when Daruk’s theme was referenced at the perfect time as I was riding on a mine-cart, letting me be fully immersed, it was one of my favorite moments in that game
The point that in the SCUP blueprint remnant is said to possibly be destroyed by overheating wasn't brought up in the video. Since it is stated clearly, that remnant is known to be influenced badly by heat in the same document it's another flaw to this theory and mikebear, and most of matpat's SB headcanon. Or maybe i'm just unaware of other info disproving this, which is the problem with not bringing it up.
There is an interesting theory I heard that you can consider:
All the games up to sister location had been all a series of games made by an indie dev.... the lore given through the first help wanted.
The games are something that exists in a universe where other events took place and the previous games before the new era is something like fanfiction. In this universe it is more possible that the books lore is what actually took place. The book universe and the "FNAF game" lore being something separate.
The theory also goes that there is an AI that is attempting to recreate the events that took place in the game and even having people have the fitting roles. Proof of this can even be found in help wanted where you find the odd robots attempting to recreate the afton family from the games.
That is why it seems in the new canon the Afton child seems to be Vanessa instead of Michael, and so forth.
I may be bad at explaining this. Look up
Stormister's video titled: How FNAF World Solves modern FNAF if you want to know the theory I am talking about.
i replied to you saying to watch Stormister's new video and when i got to the end of your comment it made perfect sense, haha. i really believe they summed it up perfectly, whether it's what i want or not.. it seems to be the current state of the lore and future of fnaf.
That’s funny, because the in-universe explanation for games in Help Wanted is that the events did happened, but Fazbear Entertainment hired VR developers as in a attempt to cover-up the events that gave them a bad reputation, because it’s Fazbear Entertainment after all.
Maybe the "5 into 1" thing includes Elizabeth and excludes Cassidy, but I don't feel like that was the intent, because of the tomb behind the grass at the end of FNAF 6.
It could be soul splitting with the mci, parts of their souls in the suit bodies aswell, explaining their presence in fnaf 3 along with the funtimes.
As for golden freddy, I saw a theory somewhere that scraptrap fixed his suit with some of those parts, though he also fits the little sprite head we can find in fnaf4s parts and service /shrug
My opinion on MoltenMCI is that, i definitely think Scott intended the MCI kids to be in Pizza Sim, and yes Molten Freddy is the best holder of those souls, but the actual elements of MoltenMCI are impossible because for some reason instead of getting a second, more recent version, of Follow Me(a minigame that originally was just "the purple guy is destroying the animatronics because Freddy was active in the Save Them minigame in FNaF2) we got a second version of Take Cake To The Children. So many of the problems i have with MoltenMCI come from the fact that it relies on extrapolating so much information from either a book that the community famously refuses to use for evidence except for this one time and minigames that weren't intended to actually show diabolical plotting Afton because Afton had no plots back then.
Its a theory that while i feel Scott intended he doesnt actually give us the pieces to make it work within the story.
Golden Freddy isnt accounted for and by the time of Pizza Sim Golden Freddy had 2 souls in it, so it wouldnt make the 5 into 1 work because thats 6 kids. But if we say "oh happiest day happened so the Crying Child isnt in there anymore" then the other 4 bandmates had also passed on and Molten Freddy only has Cassidy to work with and theres no way to make the puzzle pieces fit together right.
MoltenMCI is the Midnight Motorist of FNaF theories, it needs just one more piece in the game to help us make it fit.
The souls are fragmented according to the fnaf 3, in office minigames (you must complete a number of minigames in a specific order including crossing between several of them in order to free each separate soul ahead of the happiest day mini game.), so the souls haunting Afton could just be the phantom fragments Mike experiences in the office in fnaf 3. Apparitions without true form, twisted in agony. This would also explain why the phantoms always appeared burned, they know what William Afton did to the rest of their form and are using it against him. The ghosts never directly interact with Afton yet he is absolutely terrified of them. Them being apparitions of the pain he caused is also supported by ultimate custom night. Nightmare for example has two important voice lines to consider; 1. 'I am your wickedness made flesh.' and 2. 'You will not be spared, you will not be saved.' this implies a recurring theme of pain fuelled apparitions following Afton throughout his life even after becoming Springtrap. The shadow bonnie minigame is a metaphor for how William Afton as Springtrap tricked the puppet into becoming lefty. Afton built the lefty suit to specifically capture the puppet to torture it so he could obtain Charlotte's perfect remnant, a material that could ONLY be obtained by melting the puppet down while it is in a state of agony. As remnant specifically requires intense pain in order to meld the soul to the metal under the heat. Something with evidence in the puppet's ultimate custom night voice lines: 'the others are like animals but I am very aware.' Charlotte Emily's soul was never fragmented nor descended into primal rage unlike the other 5 victims, so her remnant would become Afton's greatest obsession and most coveted prize.
A further side note up until the post game of sister location and the end of fnaf 3 Michael was William Afton's subservient, unquestioning puppet, he could have been used by William to transport the endoskeletons to the sister location so William Afton could stay behind and scout the restaurant, which creates the follow me mini game inconsistency(everyone forgot about Michael). Golden Freddy's connection to Michael is seemingly what breaks William Afton's hold over Michael at the point of the Fnaf 3 fire as Michael's voice warps like Golden Freddy's when he informs William that the only thing he has left to do is find him in the Fnaf 3 cutscene of Golden Freddy mode in sister location's custom night. Plus in sister location Michael would have been splashed by remnant by the scooper when it gouged him, which is what allows Elizabeth to keep her promise to him that 'he wouldn't die'. Hence the missing quantity of remnant and Golden Freddy's presence in pizzeria simulator, it came in through the 'brave volunteer' and formed the reason why he didn't want the exit Henry had planned for him. It came to claim what was left of William and Michael had to die to release it to do so spawning ultimate custom night leading to the old man consequences mini game in which a garbled voice of William Afton states: 'I hate mike! And I hate Henry!' while in a state of seemingly perpetual agony, until Vanessa's vr team receives a particular flesh coated circuit board as a gift in help wanted, which they scan into the game, into which 'it's code took hold all by itself.' creating Glitchtrap and setting off another horrific story.
If Golden Freddy was meant to be part of the “5 into 1” that would immediately debunk it because of the Crying Child, right? That would be 6 souls into 1.
If the 5 into 1 isn’t referring to Molten Freddy but rather Ennard, though, that would work perfectly. Not only do 5 souls (MCI - GFreddy + Elizabeth) become one in Ennard, but those 5 enter into 1, being Michael, entering inside (like the snakes) and being “stitched” together by the remnant of their 5 souls. This would still support the MCI Molten Freddy and gives credence to 2 of the candy cadet stories while also giving GFreddy the ability to be its own free agent apart from the rest, which the games seem to support over and over. The only hiccup is the fusing of 5 keys into 1 which saves no one.
I still think ID’s theory mostly works as well. People forget that as long as the a theory doesn’t contradict other findings including it, evidence can have multiple usages. While I don’t think the Puppet makes sense anymore, William works well with the stories, possibly showing three different aspects of the story. He had the keys to free the kids (burn the remnant) but instead melted them into 1 key (to bring back one of his kids or to gain immortality, that’s up for debate) and frees no one. He feels guilt over his kids’s deaths and so shove the alive snakes into 1. He stitches together the remnant of 5 animatronics into 1 and it comes back alive. Granted, Baby was not part of the plan but it works to get the point across. Whether completely intentionally or not, William is responsible for the creation of Ennard and Molten Freddy
To address flaw #2: remnant and souls are not the same thing. Think of remnant as a source of energy, which can animate things, bringing them to life, through lingering memories. Souls are more or less the ghosts of a dead person. A ghost can possess something, but it can also just exist on its own. When the animatronics were dismantled, the remnant lingered within the endoskeletons, however the souls were freed from the animatronics (if only temporarily, what happened to them afterwards is debatable, it’s possible they were unable to move on due to their remnant still possessing animatronics).
Can’t wait for all the “thumbnail is AI” comments
honestly a lot of the issues with molten mci likely come from scott not outright planning his story, but building off of existing points. he really doesnt seem to strictly follow previous events
I like how this video shows a good balance for the theory. It is quite a thought provoking subject which I think we don't have enough evidence for a definitive answer yet. But that was a great find in Help Wanted with those four endoskeletons. It makes you wonder how many little details in the FNAF series are still out there still being overlooked by the fanbase after all these years. There could still be that one tiny detail out there that can explain this theory. You never know...
Whatever the truth is, I'm certain of this: Molten Freddy has everyone who hasn't been freed yet, except Elizabeth and Charlie of course. That sounds like a logical thing to conclude.
Also, a side note to anyone that may not know. Dittophobia is 100% happening in late '90s or later. Tracable cell phones weren't a thing before then.
Ooo, great point! I love that details like that in our world can help time and location placement. That also means Rory could've been taken back in the 80's, was trapped for 10 years and then traceable cell phones were available. Depends when they were widely available 🤔
@@Haley_Halo there's also something that implies him being taken some time in the early '90, but it's not confirmed. I'll still mention it though. Rory finds out that his parents made a website after he vanished. Those weren't a thing before the early '90s. But he could've been kidnapped before that time, right?
Well...he's suprised after hearing about tracable cell phones, asking "They can do that now?". But after finding out that his parents had a website, he just answers with "Had?", not questioning its existence and instead wondering why they STILL don't have it. Maybe the writer just didn't think about that line of dialogue as much as the other one, but it's something to think about, especially considering how close they are to one another.
@@ivon1671 Also a keen observation about the website comment.
The first phone with GPS came out in 1999. Military-grade accurate GPS (without intentional errors) was granted to civilians on May 1, 2000. Yeah, Rory was likely taken in the 90's, probably not earlier than '93 based on general use websites. Just after the time of FNAF 1 😅 Wasn't that where Ozone put it in this video?
I think there may be a reasonable explanation for Golden Freddy not being one of the melted down endoskeletons - and that is that GF never had an endoskeleton to haunt in the first place. Fredbear is a spring lock suit, and it always appears slouched over and inactive. I posit that Cassidy was spring locked and therefore is herself in place of the endoskeleton that should be there - much like Afton is.
Golden Freddy has always been more ghostly than the others, so it would make sense if GF doesn't abide by the rules of Remnant, and that their spirit is moreso haunting the location - or more accurately, is following the other animatronics around.
This is also my theory as to why Golden Freddy has multiple designs within the series. Logically, the Golden Freddy suit should look as it did in 1983 when it was retired. There was never any reason for it's costume to be updated or changed to match the rest of the band, however we see that in FNAF 2 it matches the withereds and in FNAF 1 it matches the main band's designs. Hell even in sister location it matches the Funtime endos.
I think that Cassidy's spirit, without remnant to tie it down, is bound to the rest of the MCI. This could be why she never gets a mask in Give Gifts Give Life, and could also potentially be the explanation of the woman with the keys. Perhaps Charlie could have saved Cassidy thanks to her having no endo, but instead gave life to the others, inadvertently trapping Cassidy. Could definitely tie into the whole vengeful spirit thing.
In the end when Ennard became Molten Freddy, Cassidy's spirit was, willingly or not, taken along for the ride. The only issue with this is that we don't see any spooky haunting style GF shenanigans like we do in FNAF 1 or 2, but regardless, we know that Golden Freddy had to be there as they reference the fire at the end of FNAF 3 & 6 in UCN.
TLDR: Golden Freddy most likely doesn't have an endoskeleton, so they're not a phsycial part of Molten Freddy, but Cassidy's spirit follows around the MCI kids and is thusly a part of the soul almagam.
Edit: If you believe Cassidy DOES have an endo or a tie to the suit, potentially Afton could already have removed Golden Freddy from the location in Follow Me, or is even the one wearing the Fredbear Springlock, hence the purple colouration of Shadow Freddy.
I don't believe in MoltenMCI. I get that there's evidence to support it, but not only is there evidence against it, but I just believe that it's not satisfying from a story stand point.
Edit: I'm adjusting the theory I presented here before. I now believe FoxyBro aka Mike Schmidt did visit the Sister Location before Michael got there. The tv room playing Immortal And The Restless is a break room and this is proven by the fact that Ennard will come find you in there in one of the endings. Plus, the room can be found in the underground complex in Security Breach. So Mike used the break room before Michael did. Michael never touches the Logbook. FoxyBro was on a quest to communicate with the ghost of his little brother, and it must've led him to the SL facility. That would explain how the plush Fredbear got there ahead of Michael. At the moment I'm leaning toward Molten Freddy containing the plush Fredbear and thus Golden Freddy, but it doesn't hold the other 4 MCI kids because their animatronics were at the FNAF3 location and then recovered by Henry.
Original comment:
My interpretation of Sister Location is that it was a soft reboot of FNAF that re-imagined what happened with the MCI. Rather than a serial killer stuffing the kids into animatronics, a new villain William Afton and his Funtime animatronics kidnapped the kids for his experiments on remnant or whatever. Sister Location's Michael is not the exact same character as the remorseful big brother from FNAF 4, although both are named Mike/Michael. See I think SL's Michael helped torment the kids in the experiments by playing the role of the bully. That's why he thought the ghosts would recognize him but they didn't because he's all grown up now and looks like his father. While I believe Ennard definitely contained the souls of experiment victims, I hesitate to define what Molten Freddy is because FFPS aims to mesh the original FNAF trilogy and its serial killer story with the mad scientist story of Sister Location. Maybe this is why the Insanity Ending is called that, because trying to reconcile all the games together requires a bit of insanity.
Can't believe G Fuel killed countless kids for their remnant.
Kind of late but:
Points supporting MoltenMCI:
1-If William was already springlocked by the time of SL then Micheal is talking to springtrap in the SL ending but if william was locked in the bunker then he couldn't have told micheal to go to the SL place...unless william knew what the souls could do and told micheal to do things for him before going to the fnaf 1 location WHICH COULD INCLUDE PUTTING THE MCI ENDOS ON THE SISTER LOCATION PLACE.
2-If MoltenMCI is true it explains a lot about the blob(aka tangle but i prefer the blob). We know the blob stole the parts of the main 4 animatronics and the main4 are inside molten freddy, if molten freddy = the blob then the blob would just be trying to 'put itself back together'.
3-The candy cadet story (especialy the third one) could be about henry burning the 4 kids + charlie(5th child in this case) and the knocking being the fire being a failure(which is confirmed somewhere, i think ultimate guide)
Points aganis MoltenMCI:
1-If MoltenMCI is true how about the fnaf 1 and 2 firing having odor on it? If micheal became a corpe after the first 2 games then he wouldn't have a bad smell,right?
2-Wouldn't molten freddy be top priority because of the souls of the funtimes, i mean we know they can kill so what if they have souls themselves?
3-Not exactly aganist it but doesn't this delay happiest day to fnaf 6?(blob is an agony/remmant monster so it wouldn't need the mci souls)
i always thought Molten Freddy was Enard without Baby. i also think Balora is part of Enard/Molten Freddy, Balora is William Afton’s wife, which is why Molten Freddy says “one big happy family”
It was never confirmed or implied that Ballora was Mrs Afton. Mrs Afton hasn't even been shown to 100% exist in the FNaF Universe. Even if theoretically Ms Afton did exist, and she did possess Ballora, there shouldn't be any reason to say that the Afton Family is "one big happy family" for many reasons:
1. William literally killed children and indirectly, whether on purpose or not, got all 3 of his kids killed.
2. William killed children.
3. The Crying Child isn't even at the FNaF6 Location with everyone else (William/ScrapTrap, Michael Afton, and Elizabeth/ScrapBaby)
The fourth closet helped so mutch.
There was also a dialogue between Afton and baby if I remember correctly where it was clearly said: they are finally useful, now they have a purpose, they will become something more, just like what happened to you once, and then Funtime Freddy was injected with the remnant from the fusion of the endoskeletons of the 4 original animatronix.
So something i always found weird while watching fnaf timeline vids is that there are 2 MCI's. One involving the fnaf 1 animatronics, and one involving the fnaf 2 location. Something no one ever brings up is the fnaf 2 MCI. First off there are anothr group of 5 animatronics that could have kids possessing them. So why do they go forgotten. People make it very clear they are a different set of dead kids.
Now i could be wrong, but if those kids bodies were also stuffed in the toy animatronics, its possible William used the toy animatronics to work on remnant, ESPECIALLY since the withereds went on to be used again.
We also see a box of the toy animantronics in fnaf 3 which, although a stretch, could further prove the toys being taken apart and used for remnant experiements.
Now the reason i bring this all up is because it ends up working with the timeline. If afton used the toy animnatronics to make remnant and fused it to the funtimes (which the funtimes have similar designs traits to the toys btw), then Afton would probably want more. And the only place that would have more remnant would be the fnaf 1 location with all the animantronics. Now this clears up the fnaf 3 night minigames, because it A. Makes the dismantling happen in one night, 2. lets the kids souls be freed but also lets the renmant experiments already happened, and #C. Lets Afton get springlocked without leaving us with questions as to when he did everything.
This also lets the events of fnaf and sister location have easier placement on the timeline. If you like SL before fnaf 1, this allows that cause the funtimes had remnant in them and william can still go back to the fnaf 1 location later. And if you like SL after fnaf 1, well like i said the funtimes have remnant as early as after fnaf 2 so it doesnt matter which order those 2 games take place. As long as fnaf 2 happens first (which i think it usually does).
Something else this allows for is Happiest Day to happen seperate from Fnaf 6, cause i always found it confusing when people say they happen at the same time. Like if the souls went to the after life, then molten freddy is unnessary. But if molten freddy is burned then shouldnt the souls not need to be put to rest by the puppet (plus happiest day implies the puppet continues to still be around so why would the puppet survive the burning). So happiest day happens in fnaf 3 like normal. And molten freddy still needs to be burned later. And THIS WAY, every single soul, even the forgotten ones from fnaf 2, have been laid to rest.
This is just my idea for how to fix the molten freddy thing while also tying up other loose ends. I could have made a mistake so let me know if i did.
MoltenMCI is like that screenshot from the Twilight Zone where the monster is staring right at him and he's wincing with his eyes closed. Like you don't wanna believe it, but the evidence is so overwhelming it's just pure cope to ignore it. "And for those you've carried in your arms" is the smoking gun.
Super awesome video. I really enjoyed hearing both sides of the argument, and it’s really interesting to see how you handled the topic itself.
You know, here's a crazy idea that somehow was never explored, seemingly.
There are not 6 souls to put to rest (charlie + MCI 5). There are 7 (elizabeth) or even 8 (2-soul-crying-child)!
That would suddenly explain why Charlie and Cassidy seemingly didn't pass... because the grave in distance is Elizabeth.
One thing i don't understand is that the fnaf 1 souls were freed after fazbears fright burnt down and that's why the heads weren't glowing.
22:50 The 5 going into 1 could be Gabriel, Fritz, Susie, Jeremy, and Elizabeth going into Ennard which would be accurate if this theory is correct, but it makes less sense that it would be mentioned in pizzeria simulator than if it were referring to molten freddy, because Elizabeth is separate again by then. Considering the funtimes were designed to murder children, however, it's likely there are more than 5 souls in them - I doubt Elizabeth is the only victim. If there are more souls in the funtimes than those 5 then yes the story about melting down the keys does mess up the theory quite a bit
I think Cassidy wasn't in the Sister Location bunker since Golden Freddy is never shown as being dismantled, there are only 4 endos in the furnace, and while Cassidy is present for one frame in give gifts give life, it's not that frame that is shown when Henry mentions "those you have carried in your arms." I like Sire Squawk's theory that Cassidy's soul became attached to Springtrap, maybe there's some weird soul splitting thing going on in follow me bc the endos have been removed but the remaining pieces of the animatronics left on the floor had parts of the souls in them? That could be why you can free their souls in fnaf 3 (parts of the costumes are at that location) - you'd be freeing the parts of their souls that exist in the suits for the fnaf 1 and 2 animatronics, and then the souls present in molten freddy are the results of the fnaf 1 and toy animatronics being melted down or something
plus there's the fact that things are retconned without being obviously retconned and so it's hard to tell which things are fully canon
This is the best video I’ve seen on MoltenMCI. This is really good work, congrats.
20:37 Golden Freddy, Spring Bonnie, the Puppet, & the spare Endo 01 are still there and he prob knows that
The spirits of the MCI could just be afton hallucinating BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A GUESS
If she went back to the bunker and used the light you pointed out wouldn't she just have gotten her original exo parts instead of fashioning an approximation from scrap?
I guess unless someone had already retrieved them for some reason.
One thing, there’s no evidence confirming the minigames are reliable narrators. Another thing, No evidence that Fredbear & Golden freddy are the same suits. Purple representing black is debunked by the crying child’s suit, so perhaps Golden Freddy has a Yendo Endo
An Ozone vid???? Im hyped as hell. Its been too long since the last one, these videos are so good
I’m on board, this is Interesting to consider but it needs to answer two things for me to switch over to this:
1- MCI 2 & the souls in the toy animatronics (the technical canonical animatronics inside the funtimes… at least to me) what’s going on with them? They aren’t mentioned in it at all.
2- who’s souls are freed in the happiest day? The cast that’s said in this theory to be inside molten freddy is MCI 1 or fnaf 1 cast- but from the good ending of fnaf 3, we know those spirits (- Cassidy I guess) are free.
My biggest gripe with the theory- at least with how it’s being told here is it’s not re-writing other key parts of the story- I can go alongside the theory but the second I remember there’s 2 MCIs it loses a lot of ground.
Great video though! Very professional and found the theory genuinely intriguing!!
It doesn't have to be the MCI kids, if the funtime animatronics were designed to kill other kids it's possible the souls are different victims from the MCI children.
Personally I think that the Candy Cadet stories would be far less confusing if Scrap Chica had been in FNAF6, since that would have resulted in 5 animatronics in 1 place rather than 4. But then we'd have to explain what the deal with her is--
I find it interesting that all of the candy cadet stories talk about five into one and while we talk about the MCI souls , there are only four animatronics that get put together into Ennard. I know the five kids get boiled down into remnant goo and get spread across the four animatronics , but when they are all put back together do each of the kids come back to consciousness ? How does Elizabeth’s soul play into the MCI kid remnant that already exists in Baby ? Does the MCI Remnant turn into a new kind of possession entity when injected into each of the Funtime Animatronics ?
so, i have an idea.
i always thought the main 4 (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy) was freed at the end of FNaF 3.
so...what if molten Freddy is not an Ennerd variant....but a Golden Freddy variant.
it would still make some of his lines referencing being multiple beings work, and would work with the FNaF 3 mini games.
the reason we don't see Golden Freddy in the FNaF 3 mini games? they were in ennard.
I'm not good at research, so if anyone has anything to add, please let me know.
14:06 *gesp* IT WAS HIM ALL ALONG! THE MAGICIAN!!
would be really interesting to what you think about Cassidy with moltenmci, given her very confusing nature
Sometimes it's also a good idea to remember that some of the flaws, can simply be Scott's writing, he is human after all and such. Molten MCI also kinda explains the toy animatronics in FNAF2, since they had parts from the old animatronics in them. Great video!!!
something i find really interesting about the candy cadet stories in relation to moltenmci, is that the person combining the 5 things isn’t the one that killed them.
in all the stories, william would be the killer, the arsonist that locked the children in the rooms, the snake that ate the five kittens, the burglar that killed the five orphans, the one(s) putting them together are people dealing with the consequences of his crimes.
the “knock at the door” part in story three, means that if it represents all the souls being laid to rest in the fnaf 6 fire, it failed in some way and at least one of them survived (which we know william maybe kinda did because of the man in room 1280) but would also imply that henry also survived the fnaf 6 fire.
the “there was a knock at the door” feels like it could work as the ending to all 3 of the stories, charlie’s fate being intertwined with the mci after intertwining their fates by giving them life in the animatronics, michael being haunted by the missing children, them attacking him in almost every game in the series, and feels most reminiscent of, after he helped them become one, when ennard came to his house in the fake ending of sister location, or him getting scooped and used as a suit for ennard, and the missing children in molten freddy coming to the fnaf 6 pizzeria where henry is, but that would actually imply that henry was the one that put the missing children’s souls into the funtimes. is there any evidence for this other than the candy cadet story? i dunno, but it’s a perspective i don’t think i’ve ever heard before
Yendo works as being golden Freddy. Golden Freddy doesn’t have a body in the same way the others do. In Fnaf 1 golden Freddy has the same suit design as Freddy in Fnaf 2 he looks like withered Freddy. Both of those designs show up later in UCN meaning both of them are cannon. That means that golden Freddy can probably shift the way he looks to blend in with the other band members. Meaning it isn’t too much of a stretch to think that he could change to look like a Funtime endo when all the others are in Funtime animatronics
I'm saying this before the video airs but....
MoltenMCI is as annoying as Midnight Motorist is said to be for some fans.
It works in a vacuum, but then it messes everything else up if that is the case.
It makes more sense, timeline wise, as MoltenDCI (the spirits from the toy animatronics were used), or if the kids are just the kids that were taken by the Funtimes during the rental service's life.
MoltenMCI = The spirits in the classic animatronics were used in the funtimes. It gets really annoying, and it messes with the timeline too much.
Think you just summed up the whole video tbh ahahah
I’m sorry, but I never understood the theory for Molten Freddy being the Toy Animatronics when there’s barely any evidence and that there’s nothing in FFPS that mentions the Toys at all.
@OzoneYT just finished the video and....
As for the HW secret 15:51, you see 4 things become Ennard. NOT 4 things become the funtimes, then Ennard.
What 4 things do we know that become Ennard. Yes. The 4 Funtimes.
And if you look around the furnace, you actually see the casings of Funtime Foxy and BonBon around the Furnace.
This is why I think that secret is just showing the 4 funtimes becoming Ennard, not the classics.
Why are the 01 endos used? Why, because its a recreation and they probably only knew that 4 animatronics became Ennard. Its the same reason why the classics are used in Pizza Party, even after the Withers were added to the game, post launch.
@Sketch-ic6jf it was based on the idea that the toys used parts of the originals, hence why they're haunted. Then William took their endos before they got Scrapped, and used those for the funtimes instead.
Not really. The only issue is the numbers.
You can only get 5 souls when it's ennard and not molten freddy because Elizabeth later breaks off
Personally, I dont like MoltenMCI because it takes away the individuality of a lot of characters, be it robots or ghosts. I feel like it paints the Funtimes and whatever ghosts they house less as distinct characters with their own complexities, and more as animalistic feral creatures that only think "kill🗣kill🗣kill🗣" You may argue that's the case, because of the Puppet's one line in UCN saying so, but the rest of the animatronics in that game speak at the same level of awareness. (If they speak.)
Suzie gets a whole story in the Frights books, and thats the most detail of any of the MCI that we get. But oh well, I guess we'll just reduce them to juice for the plot.
Regardless, characters deserve character.
(Oh and back in the day, we interpreted "Follow Me" as Purple Guy destroying evidence. How that would still hold up, I don't know.)
Afton destroying evidence was way more narratively satisfying than him melting the MCI into juice to inject into other robots and I will firmly die on that hill.
I’ve personally never really been the biggest fan of the MoltenMCI. I’ve always thought William Afton dismantling the Fnaf 1 animatronics was him getting rid of the evidence of his murders. Due to the posters in Fnaf 1 we know he was arrested, but they couldn’t find the evidence to convict him. So after he’s let go, he goes back to the restaurant and disposes the bodies, but causes the spirits to be free and get him Spring locked.
Edit: I also don’t like how this theory basically retcons The Happiest Day minigame, and I feel like it’s the first instance of this series not wanting to let go of the past. Is it true or not? I’m not sure. Either way I’m just not the biggest fan of it.
No you're absolutely right. It is the first actual instance of FNaF not wanting to let go of the past and move on to new stories. It's funny how everyone loves this idea but when SB did something similar with Burntrap and Blob, everyone hated it. It makes no sense how this series can get away with this much bad storytelling and still have people wanting to actually solve its narrative.
@@OutOfNameIdeas819 I feel like the difference is that Molten MCI is solving something we don’t really know that much about, so it’s people filling the gaps with their own head-cannons. Is it true? We’ll probably never know, but people like the mystery and theorizing.
But with Help Wanted saying the old games were “fake”, but then Security Breach having Burntrap,
The Blob, and the ENTIRE Fnaf 6 location (including Candy Cadet) the game is basically saying “hey everything that happened in the other games? That didn’t matter. But also it does matter because William is still here, but he also isn’t.” It just makes this entire story so frustrating.
@@Bofrab If it helps, Help Wanted saying the old games were "fake" was just a cover up by Fazbear Entertainment. The old games are still canon, in-universe events that actually happened potentially supported by a message you can find in Security Breach that read along the lines of, "Why did you reopen? We all know what happened to those kids!"
@@Takejiro24 I could also see that making fans wonder what is real or fake in the older games, but yeah your probably right about it all still being true.
So much of Molten MCI comes from stuff Henry says, but how does Henry know anything? Presumably he figured out Afton killed Charlie based on some investigation we're not privy to. From there, he could deduce that Afton was behind the whole MCI, and MAYBE he could puzzle out that the animatronics are possessed by the souls of the victims, but how does he go from there to "Charlie, possessing the Puppet, put the souls of the other children into the animatronics in an attempt to save them?" Has he invented some kind of ghost-tracking device? Is he a medium? Did he also play the minigames from FNAF 2? It just doesn't add up. Personally, I think he's guessing that the souls of the MCI victims are either in Molten Freddy (which he thinks is the original possessed animatronics) or with his daughter in the Puppet, but actually they WERE put to rest at the end of FNAF 3. It may not explain everything, but it does let both Happiest Day and Henry's big speech keep their emotional weight, which I'd argue is more important.
Perhaps the reason why the children’s souls aren’t at rest despite their animatronics bodies being decommissioned, is because they are still tethered to the endo parts. In the fnaf movie, we see the kids kinda like project themselves out of their respective vessels, and do average paranormal stuff. So who’s to say that with the animatronics destroyed, the kids only way of fighting back would be to materialize in front of Afton. So while they can appear outside of the endos, their souls are still tethered to them. There are a few problems with this concept of course, such as Afton not being able to bring the endos to the SL (assuming it was done after) or the kids being able to materialize potential miles away from where the endos are. Interesting point of discussion tho.
I agree that MoltenMCI is the most likely outcome, but i wouldnt be surprised if it was revealed that its not true. I also like SireSquawks theory that Cassidy isnt part of Molten Freddy because she attached herself to Afton (like Andrew in the books)