GM 1.5 liter turbo P0014 and P0017 Exhaust camshaft timing.

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  • @jobiemosley7193
    @jobiemosley7193 2 роки тому +13

    Awesome catch! That was the problem. I used a blunt piece of steel and a hammer to rotate the reluctor ring counterclockwise to get it back into alignment. I used a laser down the camshaft by eye for the realignment and put it back together and the codes cleared and car runs fine now, Thanks. Great find!!

    • @unownvoyage
      @unownvoyage Рік тому

      How much force did you use to spin the reluctor on that camshaft?

  • @milomartinez6179
    @milomartinez6179 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @maikata329
    @maikata329 Рік тому +1

    Did you have to replace the cam shaft? Or could the original have been used by simply retiming the relucter?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      I chose to replace it, but it maybe could have been reused. I didn’t want to take the chance that maybe the reluctor wouldn’t be as tight and could move again.

  • @MrLougewah
    @MrLougewah 2 місяці тому +2

    I had this problem with customer car. I watched your video and discovered my problem was same as yours. I used a punch and a couple of pry bars to reposition the reluctor wheel. Then I use the welder and tacked it to the cam shift. It worked. Thank you for this video.

  • @christinaweaver9554
    @christinaweaver9554 2 місяці тому +1

    My 2019 equunox is suffering from all of this right now...Should this be a recall?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 місяці тому

      @@christinaweaver9554 To my knowledge, there isn’t a recall. There is a service bulletin, but that is different than a recall.

  • @lightmobile
    @lightmobile 6 днів тому +1

    God bless this man. I had to go in through the cam sensor port to knock the ring into a better position after doing the job, and it got to running with no codes.

  • @brookebridgewater5219
    @brookebridgewater5219 5 місяців тому +2

    How do I explain to a mechanic what I need done? I have the same codes and been a week trying to find someone

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  5 місяців тому +2

      Show them the video I guess. You shouldn’t have to explain to them what needs done.

  • @maikata329
    @maikata329 Рік тому +6

    I've not pulled the cam shaft covers off, but here is a good one. P00014 and P0017. Crank no start. Pull both cam position sensors and car will start and idle. This was after I had replaced both valves. This started on my daughters Malibu after she heard a loud "thunk" from the engine compartment and within 3 miles at interstate speed the motor lost power and died in the fast lane. That is when she also discovered her brake pedal was very hard and more difficult to stop. The vacuum pump locked up and broke off chunks of the housing that surrounds the coupling, and hence knocked the reluctor out of position. I hope I can realign it on the cam. This design is not one of GM's better ideas.

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому +1

      Definitely need to address the reluctor. It likely runs with them disconnected because the ECM is not receiving any info instead of receiving info that says it’s out of time.

    • @maikata329
      @maikata329 Рік тому

      @@donshort6651 tapped the reluctor back into alignment with the barcode spot on the cam. Put it all back together and it started first crank. Running well now. Wasn’t the first time for this motor either. I found chunks of vacuum pump from a previous episode. Aluminum

    • @brookebridgewater5219
      @brookebridgewater5219 5 місяців тому +1

      I am have the same problem same codes and car.. I can't find anyone with confidence to fix it. The brake peddle isn't hard now they replaced the brake booster but it isn't running

    • @maikata329
      @maikata329 5 місяців тому

      @@brookebridgewater5219 Is the check engine light on? If yes, can you get someone to pull the codes? If you disconnect both cam position sensors will it start and idle? If so, then you likely have a cam position reluctor ( the thing that spins on the cam and tells the engine where the cam is in its rotation) knocked out of position. Which will require pulling the valve cover to see.

  • @kaihardy8628
    @kaihardy8628 11 місяців тому +3

    Helps a lot! i just have to figure out how to take everything off.

  • @MrLougewah
    @MrLougewah 2 місяці тому +1

    Good video helpfull

  • @natedwicz4251
    @natedwicz4251 2 роки тому +3

    Just did one. Same issue. Very common problem. Its electronically timed, if it moves it will not start! Replace just the cam and the vacuum pump and your good to go. Obviously pull your pan off and clean it out, plus l.o.f. Just reset the timing tensioner and use a small drill bit to hold it. Timing simple. Cam cap torque is 106 inch pounds. Actuator is 15 ft lbs. Plus 90 degrees.

  • @Ray-hy2mx
    @Ray-hy2mx 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there any way to rotate the part without taking off the top of the engine?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  3 місяці тому

      Not without taking the valve cover off

  • @dunedudemike
    @dunedudemike Рік тому +4

    I rarely comment or give Kudo's on a UA-cam vid, but this save me and the customer alot of headache. I actually adjusted the realuctor thru the cam sensor hole after finding TDC and changing a broken vacuum pump. thx Mike (Luckiamute Auto Body)

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      Glad it helped

    • @christinaweaver9554
      @christinaweaver9554 2 місяці тому

      My mechanic just sent me this video too, im having exact same problem with my new equinox.

  • @scribe8398
    @scribe8398 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Don, is there anywhere I can get the part number for the Exhaust camshaft.. I had the vaccum pump shatter. Crank no start after that, I opened valve cover and fished out pieces.. Reluctor was out so tapped in place.. Now starts but idles rough, POO17 with Engine light on and "Reduced Engine Power"... Changed Oil, Sparks. Havnt done VVT solenoid but I think I may have the reluctor issue... Im I'm New Zealand and they are known as the Holden Equinox here.. Dealer shut down, parts only but waayyyy overpriced and they refuse to give out part numbers. Will get one online but not sure of part number.. Also, is there anything else required apart from the Exhaust camshaft in way of parts? Appreciate any input and assistance please

    • @scribe8398
      @scribe8398 4 місяці тому

      Sorry, it's a 2018 Chevrolet (Holden) Equinox LS Plus - 1.5L Turbo

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  4 місяці тому

      @@scribe8398VIN?

  • @josephmoeller4785
    @josephmoeller4785 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a question for you. I have the same vehicle. I replaced the camshaft after the vacuum pump broke. For some reason, the new cam isn't going in correctly. The A on the exhaust sprocket is turned to the left about 60 degrees from the intake sprocket. Is this normal? I put it all back together and it's still throwing codes. PO1101 and PO0011. When I installed the new chain. I had to grab a wrench and move the exhaust camshaft to the right position to put the chain on. But I feel like this is throwing off the timing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you!

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  7 місяців тому

      If you aligned the colored links then it should be in time. Some engines will require you to rotate the cam a little to get it timed correctly. Did you install a new chain?

  • @lalitotx1
    @lalitotx1 Рік тому +3

    thanks a lot for the info on this video samething happened on this 2020 equinox im working on , the vacuum pump failed and the broken pieces inside the valve cover problably got stucked in between thanks to this video i was able to diagnose the problem correctly

  • @big2x335
    @big2x335 Рік тому +2

    Will this work on my 2020 Malibu 1.5 engine? Please I’m having the legit same issue. Vacuum pump broke into pieces and I’m getting same codes.

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      Probably so. I’d have to look to be sure, but sounds like it.

  • @aaronturner5202
    @aaronturner5202 2 роки тому +3

    Wow 😳 my car was having this issue. GM told me to replace the vacuum pump and replace the camshaft. $2000 😆 thanks for this video.

  • @drewromero3729
    @drewromero3729 Рік тому +2

    got a 17 1.5 malibu did whole headgasket on it , made sure timing was lined up i put the cam at 12 o clock but when i did my first start engine would just crank and crank no start only start with brake cleaner . everytime i remove valve cover the reluctor moved . i got fuel pressure to low when cranking camshaft postion sensor code and mass air flow out of range . any ideas? i replaced those parts and still nothing same code

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому +1

      Well, I have no way to verify your timing is good. If it starts with brake cleaner then you just not be getting fuel. These are direct injection so there is a low pressure side and high pressure side of the fuel system. Without scanner data I’m not sure where to point you but it does sound like you’re not getting fuel for some reason.

  • @TheRealBlacHood
    @TheRealBlacHood 10 місяців тому +1

    if you take the exhaust camshaft positioning sensor out you can see the camshaft reluctor wheel... tomorrow or Sunday i will attempt to turn the reluctur wheel from the camshaft position location without taking the value cover off by aligning the reluctor wheel tab with the slot that vaccum pump slides into without having to see the laser ech barcode....i use a grabbing tool a magnet stick and some tweezer to clean the piece of the old pump out when i replaced the pump so im not concerned about vaccum pump pieces...i drive my car every day but that rough start and reduced engine speed screen is getting old and i think its messing up my fuel efficiency but other than that i drive my car rather normally

  • @partsshooter
    @partsshooter 3 місяці тому +1

    Gave me some food for thought. Thanks

  • @manuelpineda7213
    @manuelpineda7213 Рік тому +2

    Did any of the codes came back? My mechanic is currently doing this job, he recommended me to get a new cam, but told him to use the same, he said it might be risky cause check engine light might keep on.

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      No codes came back on the one I did. I installed a new camshaft and that’s what I would recommend.

  • @jwray9799
    @jwray9799 Рік тому +2

    I think I have the same prob... I would of NEVER thought a CRITICAL timing component would be simply press-fit,, and so lose of a clearance that it cane be turned with a few taps from a hammer!! WOW... GM sure Fu'd up this one..

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому +3

      Definitely. It should have been welded or at least pressed over a dowel.

  • @GreggSeal
    @GreggSeal Рік тому +2

    Great video!!! Been trying to find this problem for two days. Vac pump came apart, after fixing, would start, no idle, stall. New sensors, etc, couldn't find it!! thank you.

  • @avantsautomotive6022
    @avantsautomotive6022 2 роки тому +2

    You could have shown timing marks it may have helped more !

  • @MrStreetmedik
    @MrStreetmedik Рік тому +2

    Do you have a video showing timing/ alignment of the camshaft and timing chain?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому +1

      I don’t. If I do another one I can make one.

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 Рік тому +1

    I just leave my cruze in the garage hoping it don't break

  • @johncharpentier6380
    @johncharpentier6380 Рік тому +2

    Man, good work bud! I've been going down all the usual roads and then some myself; but I would not have thought of that potential problem/solution!

  • @bobupnkiss1614
    @bobupnkiss1614 Рік тому +2

    Do they sell reluctor rings

  • @willicosta1666
    @willicosta1666 Рік тому +2

    thank you so much you are a lifesaver. I was going crazy with those codes.

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 Рік тому +1

    So what was the year of the car??? How many miles??????

  • @liklic8028
    @liklic8028 Рік тому +1

    You are the fucking man!!! Thanks helps a great deal!!!

  • @champ72Mechanic
    @champ72Mechanic Рік тому +1

    I HAVE A MALIBU WHIT THIS PROBLEM TANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!

  • @Ryleetheunicorn
    @Ryleetheunicorn Рік тому +2

    Life saver

  • @edwinmartinez4790
    @edwinmartinez4790 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you , great video , super great , 👍 from the sunshine state

  • @MarkMangano-v4x
    @MarkMangano-v4x 7 місяців тому +1

    thank you so much mark mangano

  • @jasonpatterson1258
    @jasonpatterson1258 Рік тому +1

    Ive been trying to move the reluctor but its stuck on there. I have it top dead center right now would spinning the motor to align it with the upsidedown reluctor work?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      Not quite sure what you’re asking. If you have the valve cover removed, you should be able to adjust the reluctor.

  • @beilersar
    @beilersar Рік тому +1

    Hey Don -thank you for the video. We have a 2019 Malibu in the shop now with an intermittent crank/no-start BUT also while the customer is driving it, the car will lose power and she has to pull over and shut it off. It only has the P0014 code and so far the brakes are fine. Oil is full and clean and so far we have not been able to duplicate ANY of her symptoms. Thoughts?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      I would swap the cam sensors if they’re the same. See if it changes to the intake side. You could always remove the valve cover and inspect the reluctor position on the camshaft. With it being intermittent, I don’t think this would be your issue. The issue I was seeing would set codes immediately after start up.

  • @evoshroomy
    @evoshroomy 9 місяців тому +1

    Solid video big dog, tyvm

  • @leviowens4889
    @leviowens4889 11 місяців тому +1

    I know this is a old video but the sprocket on the exhaust cam does it just bolt on?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  11 місяців тому

      Both sprockets bolt on

    • @leviowens4889
      @leviowens4889 11 місяців тому +1

      @@donshort6651 10 4 thanks man what about the timing cover is it a gasket or just some rtv? I

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s silicone. I only use what’s called “the right stuff”. Best silicone I have found.

  • @messemckalister
    @messemckalister 2 роки тому +2

    How you get the crank pulley off?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 роки тому

      I haven’t done one since this one. I’m sure I used a puller.

  • @Mr_official392
    @Mr_official392 2 роки тому +1

    This Guy is Awesome. Working on the same vehicle with the same problem.

  • @wrenchposting9097
    @wrenchposting9097 2 роки тому +2

    I'm chasing a P0014 and P0017 on a 2.4 Malibu. Looks like this isn't the cause but great catch my dude. Happy wrenching

    • @Bronze_T_Garage
      @Bronze_T_Garage 2 роки тому

      Did you ever figure those two codes out? I have the same issue

    • @wrenchposting9097
      @wrenchposting9097 2 роки тому +2

      @@Bronze_T_Garage The owner declined further investigation and he may have scrapped it or sold it sorry. I had the valve cover off at one point and the timing was dead on.

    • @Bronze_T_Garage
      @Bronze_T_Garage 2 роки тому +1

      @@wrenchposting9097 ironically the valve cover I just pulled had a conpletely obliterated pump and spun the end piece.

  • @avantsautomotive6022
    @avantsautomotive6022 2 роки тому +2

    Also did you replace the timing chain and guides ect...

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 роки тому +3

      On this one I didn’t. The engine had 66k miles. Was barely out of warranty.

    • @johnmitchell8925
      @johnmitchell8925 Рік тому

      @@donshort6651 finally you stated the milage 🙆🙆👍👍👍

  • @ldarcy124
    @ldarcy124 2 роки тому +2

    thanks. would this also cause a crank no start.

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 роки тому +1

      Doubtful. Cause technically the engine is still in time. Just the camshaft sensor is showing it isn’t.

    • @maikata329
      @maikata329 Рік тому +1

      @@donshort6651 I had the crank no start. P00014 and P00017. Pulled both cam sensors and the car would start and run. For what it's worth. Something to try.

  • @avantsautomotive6022
    @avantsautomotive6022 2 роки тому +2

    I got one in this week waiting on the customer to come up with and show me the money !

    • @feliciamartin4459
      @feliciamartin4459 2 роки тому

      I think this is the problem with my 2020 Equinox. How much is the labor on this?

    • @avantsautomotive6022
      @avantsautomotive6022 2 роки тому

      @@feliciamartin4459 I do not remember but I would guess about 6 hours or so ?

  • @rickybailey7123
    @rickybailey7123 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video !!!

  • @alexpelchy1404
    @alexpelchy1404 Рік тому +1

    I have only a p0017 crank no start. I dont have the p0014 though any idea?

    • @alexpelchy1404
      @alexpelchy1404 Рік тому

      And it's a 18 equinox 1.5 turbo

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      Disconnect the cam sensor on the exhaust side and see if it starts. If it does, then you need to inspect the reluctor on the camshaft and the vacuum pump for damage.

    • @alexpelchy1404
      @alexpelchy1404 Рік тому +1

      Ok so vacuum pump did have damage and it did work. So I replaced the vacuum pump and both sensor and it still only will start with the exhaust side unplugged

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  Рік тому

      Then you need to check the reluctor on the camshaft. It was likely affected by the vacuum pump

  • @codyblacklock5764
    @codyblacklock5764 5 місяців тому +1

    Was this car starting with those codes

  • @hectorimperial3817
    @hectorimperial3817 11 місяців тому +1

    What did you use for the cam holder? I can’t see to find one. I have. 2018 Chevy equinox LS with the same problem.

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  11 місяців тому

      They have a special cam holding tool. I would have to look up the number but you should be able to google it.

    • @chrissnow3892
      @chrissnow3892 10 місяців тому

      Cresent wrench

    • @hectorimperial3817
      @hectorimperial3817 8 місяців тому +1

      @@donshort6651 I've tried I could find a specific one for it.

    • @hectorimperial3817
      @hectorimperial3817 8 місяців тому +1

      Hey don, I’m trying to see if you help me out. So I’ve replaced the exhaust cam shaft and cam phaser. But I’m still getting p0014 and p0017? Maybe I put in the wrong timing?

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  8 місяців тому +1

      @@hectorimperial3817 check your actuator solenoid for an issue. If it’s acting up it can be changing the position of the camshaft actuator and causing these codes.

  • @bacharalobeidy9425
    @bacharalobeidy9425 Рік тому +1

    Nice job

  • @edgeworthnation8807
    @edgeworthnation8807 2 роки тому +1

    Been at this for a week trying to figure it out, thank you

  • @messemckalister
    @messemckalister 2 роки тому +1

    Cool thanks man

  • @RichADub313
    @RichADub313 2 роки тому +1

    Going through this headache now, do you think there is a way to spin it back without taking the engine apart

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 роки тому +1

      You could probably definitely spin it, but I’m not sure you could tell when to stop without removing the valve cover and getting a visual of the camshaft location. If you have a scan tool you could move it some and then watch the cam sensor to see how close it is.

    • @dunedudemike
      @dunedudemike Рік тому

      @@donshort6651 read comment above

  • @dirtymike2193
    @dirtymike2193 4 місяці тому

    I am having the same issue with my 2016 Colorado but I have the 2.5l. It doesn’t have the laser marks on the cam shaft so do you have any information on the reluctor wheel for this motor ? Thanks

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  4 місяці тому

      I have not worked on the 2.5l as of yet.

  • @pootiefootball11
    @pootiefootball11 2 роки тому +4

    Getting ready to do this to my cousins car. Same thing has happened. Vacuum pump had broke into a bunch of pieces and the reluctor had spun almost 1/2 way around. Appreciate the help buddy!

  • @Bronze_T_Garage
    @Bronze_T_Garage 2 роки тому +1

    You are the man!

  • @steverugerguy9606
    @steverugerguy9606 2 роки тому

    What vehicle is this?

  • @nairbudy6403
    @nairbudy6403 2 роки тому +1

    We have this engine in a ‘18 Equinox. Was a lease but then we bought it since prices have gone nuts ($4k less than trade in). I change oil 3-6kmi. First change was 600mi cause im nuts. Anyway…is this a good engine? Cheap/easy to repair being so small? Wonder if we keep it several years…100,000 plus mi or get rid of it before it gets expensive repairs…. Thanks

    • @donshort6651
      @donshort6651  2 роки тому +1

      Not a bad engine. Just has some issues like all engines have. Keep oil full and clean.

    • @112879jcarlos
      @112879jcarlos Рік тому +1

      That's the worse engine the gm has. Any ecotec is a piece of junk. I work on these all the time.

    • @johnmitchell8925
      @johnmitchell8925 Рік тому

      @@112879jcarlos they have had worse