I guess the deadliest has a different meaning than I thought. Lillie and Thompson. Followed by Marshall and Holding were in my opinion the top 2 deadliest opening pairs ever.
Whatever cricket that I followed between 1995 until 2012/13, Waqar and Wasim were the most lethal pair both with the new ball as well reverse swing with the old ball. If there was no reverse swing, they sure had deadly yorkers.
Why are you then commenting that they are the greatest if you have never seen how good Marshall or Garner was or how quick thomson or Holding was or how without Imran Khan Akram and Younis wouldn't have learnt their "dark arts". They didn't include Andy Roberts anywhere as well
Have you ever heard of Thomson and Lillee? The West Indians that you've highlighted were parts of various quartets over their golden run. The golden run started with Roberts and Holding in mid '70's. Have you heard of Hall and Griffith, Lindwall and Miller,Gregory and McDonald,Adcock and Heine...?
@@ibrahimaamna9613 The original post referred to "pairs" and, on that basis Lillee and Thompson should definitely be included. As a pair, they were feared and rightly so. Thompson softened them up for Lillee
lillee great but Thompson not great bowler, Thompson's bowling avg not good and per match wickets not good so lillee and Thompson not in even top 8 fast bowling pairs , both are on no.9
A dislocated collar bone is not considered to be a serious shoulder injury. Thomson was only 26 years old (a young man), so once healed,he should have been back to normal.
@@davifdavid4347 FYI Thommo & Lillee were devastating for that initial period in '74-'75. They didn't appear in Test Cricket together again for another 4 1/4 years due to WSC & injuries to both players. Do you comprehend?
Lucky for West Indian people and unlucky for the Garner marshal holdings clark and croft and andy roberts that they were in the same era so today they are not that great in stats but more lethal in reality
Sorry, what is this list based on actually? It is not most wickets taken, that would be Anderson and Broad, it is not longevity, that would be the same pair. Marshall and Holding were devastating, where is Andy Roberts on this list with Holding, also Lillee and Thompson, very strange list
your choice no doubt best pairs , but Only greatest no.1 WAQAR WASIM why? only both are greatest than all pairs , WAQAR WASIM both are in top 10 greatest fast bowlers in all time history, both first and second 300 300 test and odi's wickets takers in cricket history, both are masters one king of swings second master of revers swing and inswing yorkers
Maybe I'm a bit ancient but I think Freddy Truman & Brian Statham deserve to be listed. Freddy was always regarded as the terror of the two and he got most of his wickets intimidating the batsman and getting them caught in the slips. Brian Statham was a different type of bowler, he was fast but, unlike Truman, he preferred to bowl for the stumps. The batsman was forced to play at every ball, he couldn't raise his bat to Statham, if he did his wicket would be gone.
These are based on stats. Over the years countless interviews with the English team of the 70's / early eighties had Holding/Marshall as the most terrifying to face along with Lillee/Thommo. As an aussie Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose and Allan Donald were the real deal ( brain and brawn ).
😂😂 Whatever said and done, I consider pairs such as: 1) Dennis Lillee & Jeff Thomson 2) Wes Hall & Charlie Griffith 3) Andy Roberts & Michael Holding 4) Glen McGrath & Brett Lee better than many of the pairs mentioned in the video‼️‼️😂😂
1)With an average over 30 Lee just doesn't rate, he was not a match winner, he was more of an ODI specialist 2) Steyn played only a few years with Pollock, they were in different eras 3)Yes Boult and Southee for sure, but maybe they just missed getting in the top 10
The Anderson- Broad pair could win only one away Ashe's series. That was in the 2010-11 series where Australia had one of the weakest teams in its history.
Lillee & Thompson, Hall & Griffith, Willis & Botham, Trueman & Statham, Lindwall & Miller, Larwood & Voce...... You seem to have missed out far too many combinations... Also, what about Roberts & Holding????? Very poorly put together...
Good video. However, you have a bit of questionable information. Garner, Holding, Marshall and Roberts were not pairs. They were a quartet. So IDK if they qualify for this list. I could be wrong because I did not see them play live. I would like to hear from the people of that era if they would be considered as pairs.
You're probably right in that view. I was around in the eighties watching them scythe through various England batting line-ups. It was more a case of mix-n-match any 2 from 4 rather than any special pairing. Obviously the guy making this video only goes back as far as the eighties. No mention of Lillee and Thomson, Trueman and Statham, hall and Griffith and going further back Larwood and Voce from the infamous "Bodyline" tour of the thirties.
Who ever made up this list , doesnt really know anything about cricket Lillee and thomson easily the most effective opening fast bowlers in history Destroyed west indies 75-76 5 tests to 1 and Larwood and voce not mentioned, Very biased list
All great bowlers, thats for sure. But I bet every bowler on that list would find a place for Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson in their top 10. Sorry, Crickstats, you bowled a no-ball on this one!
It Wasim Akram was involved in ball tampering He did not took the wickets cleanly He like his friend Imran was involved in ball tampering Imran also tampered with the ball to take wickets
A thoroughly biased and incomplete rating. Lillee, Thompson... Hall, Griffith... Trueman, Statham... Miller, Lindwall... were they spinners, or medium fast bowlers ???!!!
I think the video maker thinks that cricket started in 1980. Lillee and Thomson, Trueman and Statham, Lindwall and Miller,, Hall and Griffith, Larwood and Voce, Gregory and MacDonald.....
Marshal and holding at 10. Get a life. Grow up. They must be among top 3. You wanted to insert your own lower level pairs in there. Ok it is even worst than what I thought. Couple of south African were inserted and rest all westindians. Where is Lilly and Thompson. ? Waseem and waqar sure would be among top 2
yas WAQAR and WASIM no.1 fast bowling piar ,, in all bowling pairs one bowler greatest 2nd patner not greatest (only best), only this 2 (WAQAR WASIM) both are included in greatest (bot are in top 10 greatest fast bowlers of all time,) both world's first and second 300 300 test and odi's wickets record holders, both are master bowlers one king of swing second master of revers swing and inswing Yorkers, one left arm second right arm so Winners 2 Ws
Chokli, the Flat track Bully never had to face these Bowlers. Else the Poor Soul would have ran to Dressing Room at end of every over to change his Diapers. Just like, he was seen crying in USA T20 WC green tracks 😆🤣
What this guy is saying it is all nonsense because the pair of bowlers, with the highest total of wickets between them is. Ranked lower than the pair of bowlers with the lowest numbers of wickets, it is all nonsense. What I really understand now days
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Lillee and Thomson were legendary. Many of the great batsmen of the time attest to that. No list of fast bowling pairs is complete without them.
I was expecting Thommo and Lillee to have the #1 spot. To not make the top ten is inexplicable.
@@davidarmstrong3564 I agree 100%
Australia were unbeatable with both of them, but they just played together very briefly, usually it was one or the other but rarely both
@@LeftLib Even worse was having Holding and Marshall at #10 from the same era
lillee not dubat greatest, but Thompson not great bowling avg not good, per match wickets not good also
Wes Hall and
Charlie Griffith
I guess the deadliest has a different meaning than I thought. Lillie and Thompson. Followed by Marshall and Holding were in my opinion the top 2 deadliest opening pairs ever.
But before that pair Roberts and Holding were WI opening pair of the 4 horseman
Michael Holding, the Rolls Royce of fast bowlers!
Statham and Trueman!
Whatever cricket that I followed between 1995 until 2012/13, Waqar and Wasim were the most lethal pair both with the new ball as well reverse swing with the old ball. If there was no reverse swing, they sure had deadly yorkers.
Wesley hall and
Charlie Griffith.
@@mattdillon5393 As I mentioned, I haven’t watched cricket prior to the 90’s, hence I can’t comment on that.
Why are you then commenting that they are the greatest if you have never seen how good Marshall or Garner was or how quick thomson or Holding was or how without Imran Khan Akram and Younis wouldn't have learnt their "dark arts". They didn't include Andy Roberts anywhere as well
@@neilgovender7450 I never mentioned the word greatest.
@@Metalrocks23 You said most lethal
Have you ever heard of Thomson and Lillee?
The West Indians that you've highlighted were parts of various quartets over their golden run. The golden run started with Roberts and Holding in mid '70's. Have you heard of Hall and Griffith, Lindwall and Miller,Gregory and McDonald,Adcock and Heine...?
To omit Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson is sacrilege . Come on fellas, do your job!!!
Perhaps this pair was not included due to Thomson not having many wickets in his bag. On the other hand, Lillee was unmatched.
Gotta agree Jeff Thompson was scary as hell
I stopped watching after I noticed your comment. No list of fast bowlers is complete without those two
lillee great bowler, but Thompson not great bowler, bowling avg not good per match wickets not good, only 200 total wickets ,
@@ibrahimaamna9613 The original post referred to "pairs" and, on that basis Lillee and Thompson should definitely be included. As a pair, they were feared and rightly so. Thompson softened them up for Lillee
I agree with number 1 as a west indian.
Astounding that the most feared fast bowling duo in cricket history - Lillee and Thomson did not even make this list!
Andy Roberts and Mikey Holding
Lillee and Thompson were best and deadliest pair
That's the truth , just ask those English players who were hiding and not wanting to play against them.👍👍👌🥰🥰
No mention of Andy Roberts! No Lillee & Thomson! Surprising.
Who needs 2 when you have 4 - Marshall, Garner, Holding & Croft (and then you have another 5 or 6 waiting in the wings).
Number one is jeff thinson and Deniss lillee
lillee great but Thompson not great bowler, Thompson's bowling avg not good and per match wickets not good so lillee and Thompson not in even top 8 fast bowling pairs , both are on no.9
I think Dennis Lilley and Geof Thompson are also legends of all times
Lillee & Thommo were the most devastating Fast Bowling Pair until interrupted by WSC and then Thommo's serious Shoulder injury.
A dislocated collar bone is not considered to be a serious shoulder injury. Thomson was only 26 years old (a young man), so once healed,he should have been back to normal.
@@davifdavid4347 FYI Thommo & Lillee were devastating for that initial period in '74-'75. They didn't appear in Test Cricket together again for another 4 1/4 years due to WSC & injuries to both players. Do you comprehend?
@wayneelliott7011 Most fast bowlers develop injuries of one sort or other,and remember,the W I bowlers were also part of World Series Cricket,too!
@@davifdavid4347Geez, you're really struggling with this.
@@wayneelliott7011 No,not really!
Hall & griffiths...trueman and statham...Lilley and Thomson...larwood and voce...
What about Great Australian Pair of Sir Dennis Lillee n Jeff Thomson ..........
Justified.
I am very happy that we Asians have ranked number 1. Live wasim and waqar❤
Akram and waQar great pair
Roberts and Holding!
Croft and Garner!
Wasim and Waqar is best
Did u mean wasim and shoab aktar.
I agree they were awesome, especially with reverse swing...
Trueman and Statham - the besrt
Lucky for West Indian people and unlucky for the Garner marshal holdings clark and croft and andy roberts that they were in the same era so today they are not that great in stats but more lethal in reality
Wasim+Waqar
Lilli+Thompson
Only these two pairs deserve this list apart from the West Indian duos.
Wasim waqar number 1
No Holding and Roberts or Lillee and Thompson. Is this list some sort of joke?
Great video
I am sure if you go back and check the records you will discover that Andy Roberts hit more batsmen than any other fast bowler.
Imran and Akram
Sorry, what is this list based on actually? It is not most wickets taken, that would be Anderson and Broad, it is not longevity, that would be the same pair. Marshall and Holding were devastating, where is Andy Roberts on this list with Holding, also Lillee and Thompson, very strange list
your choice no doubt best pairs , but Only greatest no.1 WAQAR WASIM
why? only both are greatest than all pairs ,
WAQAR WASIM both are in top 10 greatest fast bowlers in all time history,
both first and second 300 300 test and odi's wickets takers in cricket history,
both are masters one king of swings second master of revers swing and inswing yorkers
Nice thanks much
Maybe I'm a bit ancient but I think Freddy Truman & Brian Statham deserve to be listed. Freddy was always regarded as the terror of the two and he got most of his wickets intimidating the batsman and getting them caught in the slips. Brian Statham was a different type of bowler, he was fast but, unlike Truman, he preferred to bowl for the stumps. The batsman was forced to play at every ball, he couldn't raise his bat to Statham, if he did his wicket would be gone.
Yep,you're right,Trueman and Statham should definitely be in this list.
Lindwall and Millar
Hall and Griffith
Imran and Sarfraz
Lillie and Thompson
Lee and Tait
Going back further: Lindwall & Miller, Larwood & Voce, Gregory & McDonald
These are based on stats. Over the years countless interviews with the English team of the 70's / early eighties had Holding/Marshall as the most terrifying to face along with Lillee/Thommo. As an aussie Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose and Allan Donald were the real deal ( brain and brawn ).
a very incomplete list. the windies operated with 4 great fast bowlers for nearly 2 decades. splitting them up into pairs is just sophistry.
Waqar&Waseem are the best
Not forgetting SouthAfrican pace bowling duo Allan Donald and Shaun Pullock by Steve Irungu Jermaine
I remembered the bowling Australian pace bowling Glenn McGrath and Jason Gillespie by Steve Irungu Jermaine
Waqar and wasim
Larwood and Voce.
😂😂 Whatever said and done, I consider pairs such as:
1) Dennis Lillee & Jeff Thomson
2) Wes Hall & Charlie Griffith
3) Andy Roberts & Michael Holding
4) Glen McGrath & Brett Lee
better than many of the pairs mentioned in the video‼️‼️😂😂
Wasim&Waqar
Lara speaks highly of Akram.
Ray Lindwall and Keith Miller!
Imran and Sarfraz.
Andy Roberts & Malcolm Marshall
I would rate Melcom Marsh and Michel Holding as no one
Marshall a greatest, but holding no greatest
Where is Lee and McGrath? Steyn and Pollock? Boult and Southee??
1)With an average over 30 Lee just doesn't rate, he was not a match winner, he was more of an ODI specialist
2) Steyn played only a few years with Pollock, they were in different eras
3)Yes Boult and Southee for sure, but maybe they just missed getting in the top 10
Where are Trueman and Statham?
Steyn Yes, Philander what the hell did he ever do.?😭😭😈👌
Undoubtedly Younis and Akram was the best pairing n I'm from sa.
The Anderson- Broad pair could win only one away Ashe's series. That was in the 2010-11 series where Australia had one of the weakest teams in its history.
Why does that matter?
@@seanscanlon9067 They were successful only in England where wickets were tailor made for seamers and conditions were suitable for swing bowling.
Roberts n Croft, Lilly n Thompson, Imran n Sarfaraz.
Agreed
How on Earth could u forget the most deadliest pairs....Hall & Griffith....Lillee & Thomson ????? Very surprising !!!
This list is very English centric, and it really missed a lot of very good bowling combinations.
Lillee & Thompson, Hall & Griffith, Willis & Botham, Trueman & Statham, Lindwall & Miller, Larwood & Voce...... You seem to have missed out far too many combinations... Also, what about Roberts & Holding????? Very poorly put together...
Greatest were Lindwall-Miller, Hall-Griffith, Trueman-Statham, Thompson-Lilly.
Holding/Roberts and Lillee/Thommo...
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The rest...
Not forgetting Dale Steyn and Vernon Philander of South Africa by Steve Irungu Jermaine
Good video. However, you have a bit of questionable information. Garner, Holding, Marshall and Roberts were not pairs. They were a quartet. So IDK if they qualify for this list. I could be wrong because I did not see them play live. I would like to hear from the people of that era if they would be considered as pairs.
You're probably right in that view. I was around in the eighties watching them scythe through various England batting line-ups. It was more a case of mix-n-match any 2 from 4 rather than any special pairing. Obviously the guy making this video only goes back as far as the eighties. No mention of Lillee and Thomson, Trueman and Statham, hall and Griffith and going further back Larwood and Voce from the infamous "Bodyline" tour of the thirties.
Who ever made up this list , doesnt really know anything about cricket
Lillee and thomson easily the most effective opening fast bowlers in history
Destroyed west indies 75-76 5 tests to 1 and
Larwood and voce not mentioned,
Very biased list
M Asif & M Amir ❤
Lillee and Thomson and don’t forget Larwood and Voce
Anderson & Broad are not “deadly fast” bowler. They are just medium pace swing bowlers.
As much as I agree with your sentiment. You still can't ignore the fact they're no.1 and no.2 in all time fast bowling test wickets.
Wasim and Waqar ❤
Larwood and Voce....
How does James Anderson qualify as a fast bowler? Medium pace at best lol.
No english pace in broad and anderson maybe snow trueman willis
Never let AI make judgment calls on things that take a lifetime to know. I knew we were in trouble when I heard the 'th' pronounced in Glenn McGrath 🤣
What about lille and Thompson.
All great bowlers, thats for sure. But I bet every bowler on that list would find a place for Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thompson in their top 10. Sorry, Crickstats, you bowled a no-ball on this one!
Thompson not great bowler, bowling avg not good per match wickets not good , both mostly matches played in fast bowling pitches
It Wasim Akram was involved in ball tampering He did not took the wickets cleanly He like his friend Imran was involved in ball tampering Imran also tampered with the ball to take wickets
A thoroughly biased and incomplete rating. Lillee, Thompson... Hall, Griffith... Trueman, Statham... Miller, Lindwall... were they spinners, or medium fast bowlers ???!!!
Depends on the criteria used to judge it.
What happened to Dennis Lillee and Jef Thompson. as a West Indian I thought they would be #1pair., also Shoaib Akhtar and Waqar Younis
Javagal Srinath and Vengatesh prashath
Lille and Thamo
OMG, no Lillie and Thompson, your joking arnt you? Credibility out the window right there.
FWIW how about studying history and considering Larwood & Voce, Lindwall & Miller, McDonald & Gregory,
I think the video maker thinks that cricket started in 1980. Lillee and Thomson, Trueman and Statham, Lindwall and Miller,, Hall and Griffith, Larwood and Voce, Gregory and MacDonald.....
You know nothing about fast bowlers, no Roberts stupes
How about Freddy 'the demon' Spofforth and Charlie 'Terror' Turner
Marshal and holding at 10. Get a life. Grow up. They must be among top 3. You wanted to insert your own lower level pairs in there. Ok it is even worst than what I thought. Couple of south African were inserted and rest all westindians. Where is Lilly and Thompson. ? Waseem and waqar sure would be among top 2
Sorry but no list is complete without Lillee and Thompson, Griffiths and Hall, Statham and Trueman, Lindwall and Miller etc.
I’m guessing that someone of Pakistan origin created this video.
if Pak fielders held catches they would have had 800++ wickets
Lillee was the greatest, and still btsmen would rather face him than Thommo. Enough said.
The list is not prepared except few exceptions
Lindwall and miller? Davidson and anybody
How much can they mention...its too numerous
Lillee and Thomson ?
yas WAQAR and WASIM no.1 fast bowling piar ,,
in all bowling pairs one bowler greatest 2nd patner not greatest (only best),
only this 2 (WAQAR WASIM) both are included in greatest (bot are in top 10 greatest fast bowlers of all time,)
both world's first and second 300 300 test and odi's wickets record holders,
both are master bowlers
one king of swing second master of revers swing and inswing Yorkers,
one left arm second right arm
so Winners 2 Ws
If marshall is put at 10.…... It's a concern you cake
Chokli, the Flat track Bully never had to face these Bowlers. Else the Poor Soul would have ran to Dressing Room at end of every over to change his Diapers. Just like, he was seen crying in USA T20 WC green tracks 😆🤣
You know nothing about fast bowling history. Don't make videos with such shallow, limited knowledge.
What this guy is saying it is all nonsense because the pair of bowlers, with the highest total of wickets between them is. Ranked lower than the pair of bowlers with the lowest numbers of wickets, it is all nonsense. What I really understand now days
I'm sorry. I see marshall theee
Clearly has no clue not including Lillee & Thomson but listening to this drone bastardizing their names answers all questions
No indian 😂😂
What do you mean? More than half of these guys were (west) indian 😀