The Total War Warhammer Games are based on Warhammer Fantasy which is pretty much just Earth with magic and Tolkien races (dwarfs, orcs, elves, etc.). It is different from the Sci-fi universe of Warhammer 40k, which includes the Space Marines of normal and chaos variety (if it has horns and spikes it's a chaos marine) and different regiments of Imperial Guardsmen. Cadia was a planet that got destroyed in a giant battle and the residents and those trained in the same doctrines as them are pretty much the vanilla human soldier of the setting.
@@nomercyinc6783 I didn't say rehash of middle earth, it's races which Tolkien really pushed into the mainstream but with their own lore, origin, culture, etc etc.
It's to bad this isn't Warhammer 40k vs starwars. Instead it's Warhammer fantasy vs starwars. Starwars wouldn't even have a chance vs Warhammer 40k. Unless you picked the absolute worst 40k unites. Let's face it the only Warhammer 40k units there are the imperial guard and the only way they win fights is by out numbering there opponent and by the use of there vehicles. Put a couple of baneblades in there to even out the fight.
Funny - those marines with chainswords you call "chaos" are actually "Black Templars" - probably the most fanatically loyal chapter of Space Marines... Lorweise - I can see them fighting Jedis as Black Templars see any psychic powers as "evil witchery".
40k is specifically sci-fi, Total War Warhammer is "Fantasy", but both are "Warhammer", having started as tabletop games made by Games Workshop. Not technically the same universe, although certain ideas do transfer between the two. Also, those trenches were murder for the chainsword armed space marines. Oh, and yeah, those "hacksaws" are actually "chainswords", which is the lovechild of a sword and a chainsaw. For when your violence isn't violent enough!
Also the club... Also the club. Your average chainsword is over a metre of metal, chain, engine and adama tium teeth. So just using power armour and it as a club is deadly.
Aight. You mixed up warhammer 40k and warhammer fantasy units. The spess mehreens are 40k, the guys with the T-shirts and flashlights are 40k, the dragons are fantasy, the spear guys are fantasy, the crossbow guys are fantasy, and the dwarves are fantasy. To distinguish between the two: "Warhammer Fantasy is Lord Of The Rings on a cocktail of steroids and GBH. And Warhammer 40000 is the above on a cocktail of every drug known to man and genuine lunar dust, stuck in a blender with Alien, Mechwarrior, Starship Troopers and Star Wars, bathed in blood, turned up to eleventy billion, set on fire, and catapulted off into space screaming WAAAGH! and waving a chainsaw sword." - TVTropes, This Is Your Premise On Drugs (Spess mehreens = space marines - the funny spelling is because of a popular meme within the 40k fandom from one of the Dawn of War games. The T-shirts and flashlights are because the Imperial Guard - now called the Astra Militarum - has equipment that is just inadequate for the universe's craziness. Of course, their flak armor (the T-shirts) is by far superior to our armor, and their lasguns (the flashlights) are better than any rifle we have. So why are they inadequate? When you're going up against beams that disassemble you atom by atom, monomolecular shurikens, fully-automatic rocket-propelled grenade launchers, basically plasma weapons, living bullets that burrow into your flesh, and storms of bullets bigger than your hand, you're gonna need something a teensy bit beefier. When you're trying to pierce suits of ceramic power armor that can stop the above weapons, take down sapient football hooligan murderhobo bioweapons, hit a space elf that moves faster than your eyes can process, kill a literal demon, get rid of Space Egyption zombie terminator ripoffs that come back from the dead, and/or get through chitin that can stop artillery shells, you need something more powerful. That power comes from their mechanization. The billions and billions of conscripts (per system usually) are literally there just to hold the line while their city-sized tanks and artillery do the dirty work. Sure, they may score a few kills with the sheer energy of millions of laser pulses, but that's just a side bonus. Wow, I went of track real fast.)
Since you asked Daley, it looked like those were Imperial guardsmen, Blood Raven Space Marines, Black Templar Space Marines, and the 3rd ones were actual Chaos Space Marines. I could probably write several paragraphs easy on each.
Also the "hacksaws" are chainswords, aka a chainsaw and a claymore had a baby, so you can cut things while also cutting things. All the other units are either Warhammer Fantasy or Warhammer: Age of Sigmar are not connected to 40k except for sharing the same "Hell" type of realm. I'm not well versed in the fantasy versions
Someone did an AI voiced thrawn giving an assessment of a 40k Imperial expedition into their galaxy that explains it well The main problem was the Warhammer side having more of its stronger dudes being mellee only, many black templars and chaos berserkers died standing above a trench, not moving An open field battle would probably have more consistent results than a trench filled map
@@XD-Intrepid it's also in the warp were everything gets fused together like a big hogpog so you could say that star wars is connected but it's not. It plays no real importance to the lore of 40k and is like its own contained universe. So yes technically it is in 40k its a completely different thing
@joshnelson1515 I only said it because it features specifically in the law starwars is clearly in no way connected to 40k I watched a whole video on this subject though and will send it in here Here is the full video that i watched but it may just be a little dated but the best one to describe my thought process i think ua-cam.com/video/2t8S1aBR_Kw/v-deo.html
If you did this with relative numbers there'd be maybe one Jedi, at most ten of each of the other Star Wars units, against about a million guardsmen. WH40k is an entire galaxy of worlds, each with their own military, but the most common unit is the Imperial Guardsman. Some of the planets have their own version of this unit, like Cadia, but they mostly follow a similar format around a lasgun (blaster rifle), cloth uniform with a helmet and the equivalent of military body armour. There are probably trillions of these guys throughout the galaxy.
@@backupplan6058 thats lore vs shown in lore alao only storm troopers clones had shown great aim in the clone wars shows But lore wise both agorm troopers and clone troopers have perfect aim storm troopers are top trained special forces not average soldwirs their on par with irl dekta force or sas if taking training and so on but droids be more an issue if had actual full droid army ones get passed b1 and b2 they get pretty dangerous from the films droidakas to the b3s snd droideka sniper varient , the crab droids or even on exstreme ends the bx and ig series battledroids that could fight jedi and still have chance to win But none of that really compares to the reality that a bolter would tear through most star wars units acept for droidika shields due to the fast they block anything moving faster than a specific speed but clones developed a method for that slow roll a emp grenade through the shield works
Cadia was an Imperial planet that was destroyed in a famous last stand but they produced one of the most powerful imperial guardsmen units Edit: and on average 40k units especially Space Marines are by far way more powerful than the average star wars unit (and they are things and people and Warhammer who are thousands of times better then space marines) Edit2: And the "chaos" space marines (Edit to the Edit: specifically the ones at the end) I am pretty sure are the Black Templars which are a loyalist Space Marine Chapter
If this happend in the Warhammer universe the space marines would have friendly fired there own men also if all the Warhammer space marines joined together they would be one of the most powerful and one of the largest army's ever.
@bannawithamic2018 or you don't know much about starwars, the jedi are ridiculously powerful, and the clones are able to merc jedi in numbers. Not saying Warhammer wouldn't put up a fight but I feel the first and last battle was accurate
total war warhammer shouldn't have been included in my opinion. Also, the red ones with birds on their shoulders you called chaos marines are blood ravens that are imperial space marines
The “hacksaws” are called Chainswords, the “Chaos Legion” is actually are Blood Ravens (A Blood Angels successor chapter I think) The “spooky cool guys” are World Eaters, chaos marines who serve Khorne.
You did have some chaos marines but the ones in black with black crosses are black temples. The red ones with the raven with a blood drop are blood ravens which are a space marine chapter. The blue are ultra marines. As far as statistics speak the Warhammer universe is a universe embroiled by a war that has never ended the imperium has been on the defense for well over 10,000 years. The Cadian guardsmen are one of many imperial guard regiments and by far one of the most decorated regiments in the imperial guard having been on the Frontline of the eye of terror up until Abandon the Despoiler ran a black star station into the planet destabilizing the core. But the Cadian are seen as a Martyr the most popular quote being "The Planet Broke Before The Guard." The survivors comment that even as the fractured planet sunk into the eye of terror they could still see lasgun fire from the planet surfaces. Overall Warhammer 40k is much much more powerful than the star wars universe.
The black armor space Marines with the chains words and white shoulder with black symbol are called black templars, some of the farthest from chaos Marines you could be, just fyi
Or actuly use more than assault marines replace the fantasy units with ctual 40 k units like admech and knights their wasnt even percent of the full factions of 40k here
i love this map. do you think we can see more of it? melee armies going at each other and filling up the trenches and falling into them would be awesome. or even ranged units fending off hordes of enemies. though i do prefer the ranged units to be able to move
I mean when you put crossbowmen and melee units against lasers kinda not even fair. Guaranteed they get clapped if it was actually just 40K vs Star Wars
i wish the game adds a rewind feature or maybe mods will do that. the problem with big battles is you cant be everywhere at once so i would watch the battle from one side and then rewind and watch it from somewhere else. though that means every battle would be like ten hours of watching ig
So to be fair on the micro scale like this battle 40k would wipe the floor with the Star Wars units, especially if you take out the fantasy units and replace them with proper 40k units. That aside on the macro scale its no contest, I mean according to the lore the GAR had 3,386,000 personnel at max (including casualty figures), on the other hand the Imperial Guard alone (not counting the Space Marines) has 87 trillion personnel minimum (even tho the lore doesn't state it, somebody did the math to get that figure based on the number of worlds and the Imperial tithes for each) and upwards of 328 trillion at maximum. Then you add the Space Marines into the mix, you get 1000 Chapters with 1000 Marines in each Chapter which gives you roughly 1 million Marines in total, with each individual Marine being equivalent to 100 or upwards of 1000 Guardsmen and each Guardsmen is equal to a single Star Wars clone.... I think you can see what I'm getting at. Then you add the Psykers into the mix with the Zeta, Epsilon, Delta, Gamma, Beta, Alpha level Psykers being either equal to or greater than any Force user, then you got even further still Alpha Plus Psykers which according to the lore "should an Alpha Plus Psyker go rogue or become possessed, they represent a threat that can destroy entire worlds or even star systems" and there is a couple million of them floating around, couple that with the Space Marine Psykers (Librarians) and you got one extremely deadly group of personnel. Additionally the Imperium has been at war consistently for 10k years, fighting everything from Tau (who are basically Star Wars level tech wise), to Necrons (who are effectively neigh unkillable machines with some of the best in universe tech), to Aeldari/Drukhari (who have strong Psykers themselves and incredibly good tech), to Orks (who are basically sentient fungi and are though as hell to eradicate), to Tyranids (who are organic death machines whom devour worlds leaving only rock in their wake), to quite literal Demons of Chaos (which I think require very little explaining). Now imagine fighting all those things for 10k years, you'd think you'd be pretty experienced at warfare in general, versus what has been fought in the Star Wars universe? Themselves? Basically largely humanoid species, whom were largely at peace for the most part with conflicts lasting maybe a few decades or a century or two at worst.... yeah I think we can safely say who wins on experience. So yes 40k is op and would roll over Star Wars without question, they are frankly used to fighting everything that Star Wars could throw at them.
40K is so Overpowered that 1/10th of just the Imperial Armies( which is maybe possibly 1% of all the units in the 40k Universe, maybe less) could probably destroy all of Star Wars armies in the Star Wars universe,+ all of LotR + all of Star Trek + all of the real worlds military in every country combined + Every Marvel character + the Covenant from Halo ...all combined, ......and with EASE. If it went badly for the Imperial 40k troops, they might take 1% losses. The scale of 40k is SOOOOOOOO far in excess of every other universe combined its just mind boggling In fact to put it in perspective, The Eldar are one of the smallest factions from 40k, and are a "dying" race in 40k. They make up less than 1% of the 40k universe populations in terms of numbers. With the Eldar alone they could probably destroy ever other Sci fi and fantasy universe ever created , combined. This is partly due to the Technology but in main the sheer numbers scale in 40k. When the Imperium has 1 million+ world, just itself, and that is 1 faction, and not even the biggest faction, and many of those 1 million worlds has trillions and trillions of people. 1 million worlds with likely at least 1 million solders protecting each world. The numbers are so big it gets into astro physics kind of scales, if we are talking about the Mathematics involved to number crunch the population. 40k is the largest fantasy/sci fi universe ever created, by factors
ik most people say warhammer would win but i think star wars has a heck of a chance to win to. hell star wars guys can at least hyper drive to any place they want which would be a big win. warhammer warp drives run the risk of the crew turning insane or destruction by daemons with every travel! plus star wars laser guns are the standard for everyone while warhammer lasers at least the good ones are reserved for the space marines and even then you barely see them outside specific units. idk man i think star wars would have a chance
dude its not even close, 40k numbers are so obscene the weakest faction from 40 k could fight a combination of all other scifi's in their entirety and still win, you just cant get your head around the scale of 40k its obscene (deliberately) its like backing a Toddler in a fight against a group of Tigers, Star Wars would not come close to be honest, and ftr I love both universes
i was a 40k fan way before star wars dude. i know how it is. im jsut saying that star wars tech is just on average probably better. being able to travel without going through the warp ALONE would give them an insane advantage@@jacksmith4460
also not true about Lasers being reserved for Space Marines. The standard issue weapon of the Imperial Guard (the lowest human foot soldier) are Lasguns (laser rifles) Space Marines hardly touch Lasguns, their main weapon is the Bolter Imagine several 100 trillion Laser rifles, and that is just the most basic soldier....from 1 faction.......that makes up 5-10% (at most) of the entire Universe population Bearing in mind there are at least 10000 times as many Orks and they ALL fight and ALL have big guns and live solely for war, or the potential of trillions upon trillions of Tyranids, who can devour planets in literal hours just from eating, I could go on but just listing the factions and their numbers we would be here a while
Should be noted for the record... Warhammer has Space Marines basically "immune" to traditional "laser fire". So, any type of "laser weapon" will be pointless to use. HOWEVER, they are highly vulnerable to "plasma based" weapons. And since SW has a fair number of "plasma" weapons (plasma bolts, not lasers) they have a good chance to do harm. BUT keep in mind that basically EVERY shot from a Space Marines BASIC weapon would be about the size of a 20oz bottle being shot at you with enough power to go through metal. So the "ceramic based" armor of SW would be completely pointless. SO, 1/2 of SW's weapons would be ignored, their armor would be useless and their overall "health" (toughness) would be weaker than Space Marines..... The REST of the Warhammer forces are "basic humans" with some level of weapons and armor, but nothing compared to the "basic Stormtrooper". In short, LIKE the Warhammer universe... it would be a SEA of humans, until the "salvation" of the Space Marines showing up.
so the SW army have more men and a good bunch of the 40k army is actually fantasy troopers, who are obviously much weaker due to their weapons and after giving the 40k army this disadvantage, it is an even fight. so a real 40k army would actually have way more soldiers on the field and easily win every time
I'm stopping this before it starts, just to say that it will be pretty hilarious if the Warhammer side winds this with so many units from fantasy and not 40k... action!
Hey Daley let me tell you how you can tell a chaos and non chaos marine apart If their chaos then they would usually have horns and spikes everywhere while non chaos are more refined, their armour is like a uniform with their symbols and chapter logos.
As far as Warhammer 40k goes, Imperial Guardsmen are among the weakest. They're the common soldier of the Imperium of Man. While the Space Marines are the most elite, something like Navy Seals. The strength of the Imperial guardsmen lays in their numbers, when they can overwhelm the enemy. The Cadian imperialguardsmen are however the most elite. Their company survived the utter annihilation of their planet!
This is hilarious and awesome but i had the thought, would not many of these units be interspersed? Especially Jedi. As hilarious as it is to see a wave of lightsabers cutting a swath i feel theyd be all spread across the battlefield and i wonder if thatd be more interesting
The Total War Warhammer Games are based on Warhammer Fantasy which is pretty much just Earth with magic and Tolkien races (dwarfs, orcs, elves, etc.). It is different from the Sci-fi universe of Warhammer 40k, which includes the Space Marines of normal and chaos variety (if it has horns and spikes it's a chaos marine) and different regiments of Imperial Guardsmen. Cadia was a planet that got destroyed in a giant battle and the residents and those trained in the same doctrines as them are pretty much the vanilla human soldier of the setting.
I love Warhammer Fantasy
🤓. Is what I would say if I didn't agree with you
it is SO much different than a rehash of middle earth
@@nomercyinc6783 I didn't say rehash of middle earth, it's races which Tolkien really pushed into the mainstream but with their own lore, origin, culture, etc etc.
It's to bad this isn't Warhammer 40k vs starwars. Instead it's Warhammer fantasy vs starwars. Starwars wouldn't even have a chance vs Warhammer 40k. Unless you picked the absolute worst 40k unites. Let's face it the only Warhammer 40k units there are the imperial guard and the only way they win fights is by out numbering there opponent and by the use of there vehicles. Put a couple of baneblades in there to even out the fight.
Dude just called blood ravens chaos. Tut tut tut
Heresy! Call the inquisitors and the Sisters!
I mean if the shoe fits. The frequency to its members which are warp touched would be suspicious to any trained inquisitor
"Tolkien's universe on steroids."
YES
I agree a 100 percent on this one.
Warhammer is just LOTR but in the future
@@gamerstheater1187kinda
@@gamerstheater1187not 40k though
Funny - those marines with chainswords you call "chaos" are actually "Black Templars" - probably the most fanatically loyal chapter of Space Marines... Lorweise - I can see them fighting Jedis as Black Templars see any psychic powers as "evil witchery".
Year totally loyal
I'm not the only nerd
@@Crazyformodels-cq5kd no you are not brother
I'm pretty sure the "Chaos" spacemarines he talked about were Blood Ravens.
Blood ravens chaos...everyone is chaos!
LETS GOOOO. A GREAT BATTLE.
Curious how it would have turned out if there was no trenches to stop the melee units
Absolutely
Yeah, their where entire groups of melee marines who where stuck being stood as bullet spoung3s due to clogged crossings.
@@alexh3974 tbh they may die faster due to the amount of jedi
Curious to so if it was a actual SW v Wh40k. Keep the trenches give SW the battlefield advantage.
Ko
You gotta to it again without the trench. That thing really held up the melee.
40k is specifically sci-fi, Total War Warhammer is "Fantasy", but both are "Warhammer", having started as tabletop games made by Games Workshop. Not technically the same universe, although certain ideas do transfer between the two.
Also, those trenches were murder for the chainsword armed space marines.
Oh, and yeah, those "hacksaws" are actually "chainswords", which is the lovechild of a sword and a chainsaw. For when your violence isn't violent enough!
Also the club...
Also the club. Your average chainsword is over a metre of metal, chain, engine and adama tium teeth.
So just using power armour and it as a club is deadly.
Aight. You mixed up warhammer 40k and warhammer fantasy units. The spess mehreens are 40k, the guys with the T-shirts and flashlights are 40k, the dragons are fantasy, the spear guys are fantasy, the crossbow guys are fantasy, and the dwarves are fantasy.
To distinguish between the two:
"Warhammer Fantasy is Lord Of The Rings on a cocktail of steroids and GBH. And Warhammer 40000 is the above on a cocktail of every drug known to man and genuine lunar dust, stuck in a blender with Alien, Mechwarrior, Starship Troopers and Star Wars, bathed in blood, turned up to eleventy billion, set on fire, and catapulted off into space screaming WAAAGH! and waving a chainsaw sword."
- TVTropes, This Is Your Premise On Drugs
(Spess mehreens = space marines - the funny spelling is because of a popular meme within the 40k fandom from one of the Dawn of War games. The T-shirts and flashlights are because the Imperial Guard - now called the Astra Militarum - has equipment that is just inadequate for the universe's craziness.
Of course, their flak armor (the T-shirts) is by far superior to our armor, and their lasguns (the flashlights) are better than any rifle we have. So why are they inadequate? When you're going up against beams that disassemble you atom by atom, monomolecular shurikens, fully-automatic rocket-propelled grenade launchers, basically plasma weapons, living bullets that burrow into your flesh, and storms of bullets bigger than your hand, you're gonna need something a teensy bit beefier. When you're trying to pierce suits of ceramic power armor that can stop the above weapons, take down sapient football hooligan murderhobo bioweapons, hit a space elf that moves faster than your eyes can process, kill a literal demon, get rid of Space Egyption zombie terminator ripoffs that come back from the dead, and/or get through chitin that can stop artillery shells, you need something more powerful.
That power comes from their mechanization. The billions and billions of conscripts (per system usually) are literally there just to hold the line while their city-sized tanks and artillery do the dirty work. Sure, they may score a few kills with the sheer energy of millions of laser pulses, but that's just a side bonus.
Wow, I went of track real fast.)
Chainsaw swords.
Looks primitive but they are quite the stuff in 40k world
40k backup units crossbow men, star wars back up units are jedi , totally fair
Since you asked Daley, it looked like those were Imperial guardsmen, Blood Raven Space Marines, Black Templar Space Marines, and the 3rd ones were actual Chaos Space Marines. I could probably write several paragraphs easy on each.
Also the "hacksaws" are chainswords, aka a chainsaw and a claymore had a baby, so you can cut things while also cutting things. All the other units are either Warhammer Fantasy or Warhammer: Age of Sigmar are not connected to 40k except for sharing the same "Hell" type of realm. I'm not well versed in the fantasy versions
Blood Ravens: Loyalist. Black Templars: Loyalist. Chaos Marines (I believe they’re either World Eaters or Word Bearers): HERETIC, KILL IMMEDIATELY.
Stormtroopers in the movies: dies to blunt arrows
Stormtroopers here: VIOLANCEEEEEEEEEEE!
Almost like the have been given boosts to ensure they win....
every time i see "every warhammer arm
Hahaha dudes with hacksaws. Those dudes are the black templars my man
Someone did an AI voiced thrawn giving an assessment of a 40k Imperial expedition into their galaxy that explains it well
The main problem was the Warhammer side having more of its stronger dudes being mellee only, many black templars and chaos berserkers died standing above a trench, not moving
An open field battle would probably have more consistent results than a trench filled map
It would be so cool if they had the primarchs in this
Or Karl Franz and Vlad von Carstien
40k is a completely different universe to total war
It's the same universe but in an isolated warp bubble due to caldor draigo going to the total war /aos universe (age of sigmar)
@@XD-Intrepid yeah I guess but it's kinda not aswell
@@joshnelson1515 it's got all the same characters though that's why it can't be a different universe
@@XD-Intrepid it's also in the warp were everything gets fused together like a big hogpog so you could say that star wars is connected but it's not. It plays no real importance to the lore of 40k and is like its own contained universe. So yes technically it is in 40k its a completely different thing
@joshnelson1515 I only said it because it features specifically in the law starwars is clearly in no way connected to 40k I watched a whole video on this subject though and will send it in here
Here is the full video that i watched but it may just be a little dated but the best one to describe my thought process i think
ua-cam.com/video/2t8S1aBR_Kw/v-deo.html
Omg the hail fire of laser blasts is just incredible, I haven’t seen that fire density watching 40k skirmishes!
Fun fact Tolkien did actually have werewolves, not sure about vampires but he definitely had werewolves
he had vampires
Sauron was their master before the fall of Morgoth.
Daley, war hammer is on such a massive scale that it could probably take on every other science fiction universe at the same time and still win.
Yeah, no. Not even close.
@@skyhawk554it probably could take over most of them
Might as well throw in Master Chief, his fellow SPARTAN-II's, hell even the other SPARTANs as well.
If you did this with relative numbers there'd be maybe one Jedi, at most ten of each of the other Star Wars units, against about a million guardsmen. WH40k is an entire galaxy of worlds, each with their own military, but the most common unit is the Imperial Guardsman. Some of the planets have their own version of this unit, like Cadia, but they mostly follow a similar format around a lasgun (blaster rifle), cloth uniform with a helmet and the equivalent of military body armour. There are probably trillions of these guys throughout the galaxy.
Something I've noticed is whoever made the SW units massively overtuned them. Long range, high damage, relatively high health, fast rate of fire.
To be fair everyone in starwars usses plasma the thing that cn counter terminator armor
@@demonic_myst4503ah yes plasma that wepion that’s puts terminators on a 3+ save
@@trajan4770 in lore plasma is great against even terminator armor and plasma marines are anti terminator as much ad any infantry can be
@@demonic_myst4503 that great though not exactly useful overall with an accuracy of 1% and armour resistance of a teddy bear with a sharpened stick.
@@backupplan6058 thats lore vs shown in lore alao only storm troopers clones had shown great aim in the clone wars shows
But lore wise both agorm troopers and clone troopers have perfect aim storm troopers are top trained special forces not average soldwirs their on par with irl dekta force or sas if taking training and so on but droids be more an issue if had actual full droid army ones get passed b1 and b2 they get pretty dangerous from the films droidakas to the b3s snd droideka sniper varient , the crab droids or even on exstreme ends the bx and ig series battledroids that could fight jedi and still have chance to win But none of that really compares to the reality that a bolter would tear through most star wars units acept for droidika shields due to the fast they block anything moving faster than a specific speed but clones developed a method for that slow roll a emp grenade through the shield works
Cadia was an Imperial planet that was destroyed in a famous last stand but they produced one of the most powerful imperial guardsmen units
Edit: and on average 40k units especially Space Marines are by far way more powerful than the average star wars unit (and they are things and people and Warhammer who are thousands of times better then space marines)
Edit2: And the "chaos" space marines (Edit to the Edit: specifically the ones at the end) I am pretty sure are the Black Templars which are a loyalist Space Marine Chapter
Cadia fell before the guard did!
@@murielarundel5511CADIA STANDS!!
Pretty sure they where the blood ravens from dawn of war
edit and yeah the black templars at the end
@@XD-Intrepid ya probably should have specified which ones I was talking about
@@stormtroopercaptain1405 cos he said chaos marines twice about both of them
Thank for the new uebs video
Love your vids
If this happend in the Warhammer universe the space marines would have friendly fired there own men also if all the Warhammer space marines joined together they would be one of the most powerful and one of the largest army's ever.
I want to mention there’s a series of Star Wars vs Warhammer 40k
The amount of blood on the battlefield ... Blood For The Blood God. Skulls For the Skull Throne.
Warhammer is so much powerful normally than star war
I very much disagree
@@Cyoulater7Then you don’t know much about warhammer
@bannawithamic2018 or you don't know much about starwars, the jedi are ridiculously powerful, and the clones are able to merc jedi in numbers. Not saying Warhammer wouldn't put up a fight but I feel the first and last battle was accurate
@@Cyoulater7 😐I doubt a titan would care if a guy has a shiny laser sword
@@bannawithamic2018Starkiller has something to say about that
Never realized how much I wanted to see Jedi fight a dragon.
Cool vid
Those are chainswords
total war warhammer shouldn't have been included in my opinion. Also, the red ones with birds on their shoulders you called chaos marines are blood ravens that are imperial space marines
I'm ok with seeing Warhammer fantasy units but maybe not this battle, because they were way to outmatched
Brothers and sisters of the imperium we have a heretic
The “hacksaws” are called Chainswords, the “Chaos Legion” is actually are Blood Ravens (A Blood Angels successor chapter I think) The “spooky cool guys” are World Eaters, chaos marines who serve Khorne.
You did have some chaos marines but the ones in black with black crosses are black temples. The red ones with the raven with a blood drop are blood ravens which are a space marine chapter. The blue are ultra marines. As far as statistics speak the Warhammer universe is a universe embroiled by a war that has never ended the imperium has been on the defense for well over 10,000 years. The Cadian guardsmen are one of many imperial guard regiments and by far one of the most decorated regiments in the imperial guard having been on the Frontline of the eye of terror up until Abandon the Despoiler ran a black star station into the planet destabilizing the core. But the Cadian are seen as a Martyr the most popular quote being "The Planet Broke Before The Guard." The survivors comment that even as the fractured planet sunk into the eye of terror they could still see lasgun fire from the planet surfaces. Overall Warhammer 40k is much much more powerful than the star wars universe.
"Cadia stands" is the quote
The black marines are called black templars
Some day I hope to see Necrons in these Warhammer 40k battles. I know they're available and I have seen them in two videos.
I feel smaller battles in the 1000s would be better. Maybe a battle between space marines and guardsmen versus clones/storm troopers and Jedi.
That was just the scouting party. The main force will arrive soon.
The black armor space Marines with the chains words and white shoulder with black symbol are called black templars, some of the farthest from chaos Marines you could be, just fyi
You should get the Tyranids, for UEBS 2
Would have a laugh watching necrons in this ... couple thousand hexmarks, once off orb of resurrection on necron warriors would be interesting to see
For the emperor!
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Remove the trenches between them . Let them fight for the dead.
Or actuly use more than assault marines replace the fantasy units with ctual 40 k units like admech and knights their wasnt even percent of the full factions of 40k here
i love this map. do you think we can see more of it? melee armies going at each other and filling up the trenches and falling into them would be awesome. or even ranged units fending off hordes of enemies. though i do prefer the ranged units to be able to move
I mean when you put crossbowmen and melee units against lasers kinda not even fair. Guaranteed they get clapped if it was actually just 40K vs Star Wars
i wish the game adds a rewind feature or maybe mods will do that. the problem with big battles is you cant be everywhere at once so i would watch the battle from one side and then rewind and watch it from somewhere else. though that means every battle would be like ten hours of watching ig
Space marines like chain weapons, swords, axes ). What a battle
So to be fair on the micro scale like this battle 40k would wipe the floor with the Star Wars units, especially if you take out the fantasy units and replace them with proper 40k units. That aside on the macro scale its no contest, I mean according to the lore the GAR had 3,386,000 personnel at max (including casualty figures), on the other hand the Imperial Guard alone (not counting the Space Marines) has 87 trillion personnel minimum (even tho the lore doesn't state it, somebody did the math to get that figure based on the number of worlds and the Imperial tithes for each) and upwards of 328 trillion at maximum.
Then you add the Space Marines into the mix, you get 1000 Chapters with 1000 Marines in each Chapter which gives you roughly 1 million Marines in total, with each individual Marine being equivalent to 100 or upwards of 1000 Guardsmen and each Guardsmen is equal to a single Star Wars clone.... I think you can see what I'm getting at.
Then you add the Psykers into the mix with the Zeta, Epsilon, Delta, Gamma, Beta, Alpha level Psykers being either equal to or greater than any Force user, then you got even further still Alpha Plus Psykers which according to the lore "should an Alpha Plus Psyker go rogue or become possessed, they represent a threat that can destroy entire worlds or even star systems" and there is a couple million of them floating around, couple that with the Space Marine Psykers (Librarians) and you got one extremely deadly group of personnel.
Additionally the Imperium has been at war consistently for 10k years, fighting everything from Tau (who are basically Star Wars level tech wise), to Necrons (who are effectively neigh unkillable machines with some of the best in universe tech), to Aeldari/Drukhari (who have strong Psykers themselves and incredibly good tech), to Orks (who are basically sentient fungi and are though as hell to eradicate), to Tyranids (who are organic death machines whom devour worlds leaving only rock in their wake), to quite literal Demons of Chaos (which I think require very little explaining).
Now imagine fighting all those things for 10k years, you'd think you'd be pretty experienced at warfare in general, versus what has been fought in the Star Wars universe? Themselves? Basically largely humanoid species, whom were largely at peace for the most part with conflicts lasting maybe a few decades or a century or two at worst.... yeah I think we can safely say who wins on experience. So yes 40k is op and would roll over Star Wars without question, they are frankly used to fighting everything that Star Wars could throw at them.
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The weapon the black templar space marines were holding were chainsawards
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40K is so Overpowered that 1/10th of just the Imperial Armies( which is maybe possibly 1% of all the units in the 40k Universe, maybe less) could probably destroy all of Star Wars armies in the Star Wars universe,+ all of LotR + all of Star Trek + all of the real worlds military in every country combined + Every Marvel character + the Covenant from Halo ...all combined, ......and with EASE. If it went badly for the Imperial 40k troops, they might take 1% losses.
The scale of 40k is SOOOOOOOO far in excess of every other universe combined its just mind boggling
In fact to put it in perspective, The Eldar are one of the smallest factions from 40k, and are a "dying" race in 40k. They make up less than 1% of the 40k universe populations in terms of numbers. With the Eldar alone they could probably destroy ever other Sci fi and fantasy universe ever created , combined. This is partly due to the Technology but in main the sheer numbers scale in 40k.
When the Imperium has 1 million+ world, just itself, and that is 1 faction, and not even the biggest faction, and many of those 1 million worlds has trillions and trillions of people. 1 million worlds with likely at least 1 million solders protecting each world. The numbers are so big it gets into astro physics kind of scales, if we are talking about the Mathematics involved to number crunch the population.
40k is the largest fantasy/sci fi universe ever created, by factors
Canadian guards men are from the planet Kedia of fortress world.
I might of missed spelt it.
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Would need more range units for war hammer since Star Wars had like three times there’s. They would need more ultra Marines to meet it fair
ik most people say warhammer would win but i think star wars has a heck of a chance to win to. hell star wars guys can at least hyper drive to any place they want which would be a big win. warhammer warp drives run the risk of the crew turning insane or destruction by daemons with every travel! plus star wars laser guns are the standard for everyone while warhammer lasers at least the good ones are reserved for the space marines and even then you barely see them outside specific units.
idk man i think star wars would have a chance
dude its not even close, 40k numbers are so obscene the weakest faction from 40 k could fight a combination of all other scifi's in their entirety and still win, you just cant get your head around the scale of 40k its obscene (deliberately) its like backing a Toddler in a fight against a group of Tigers, Star Wars would not come close to be honest, and ftr I love both universes
i was a 40k fan way before star wars dude. i know how it is. im jsut saying that star wars tech is just on average probably better. being able to travel without going through the warp ALONE would give them an insane advantage@@jacksmith4460
also not true about Lasers being reserved for Space Marines.
The standard issue weapon of the Imperial Guard (the lowest human foot soldier) are Lasguns (laser rifles)
Space Marines hardly touch Lasguns, their main weapon is the Bolter
Imagine several 100 trillion Laser rifles, and that is just the most basic soldier....from 1 faction.......that makes up 5-10% (at most) of the entire Universe population
Bearing in mind there are at least 10000 times as many Orks and they ALL fight and ALL have big guns and live solely for war, or the potential of trillions upon trillions of Tyranids, who can devour planets in literal hours just from eating, I could go on but just listing the factions and their numbers we would be here a while
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Those weren't Chaos Marines. Those were Blood Ravens. They are a chapter of the Space Marines from the video games.
never ever heard about dragons in warhammer 40k
so many 40k could chose but went with warhammer spears against lasers next time pick a all 40k army if want a decent fight
HE CALLED WARHAMMER MIDDLE EARTH 40K!!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES
Story of my life when playing with IG:
"I don't know what happened to them?! I spawned like a million of them and *poffff* evaporated."
None of the melee units could get over the trenches
FOR THE BLACK TEMPLARS BURN IN THE EMPEROR'S RIGHTIOUS JUSTICE FOUL XENOS
that was so cool can you do star wars vs halo in uebs 2?
Sure hope this is NOT a Matrix level game, where millions of people in AR are dying for this guys amusement ;-)
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!! *revs chainsword*
Should be noted for the record... Warhammer has Space Marines basically "immune" to traditional "laser fire". So, any type of "laser weapon" will be pointless to use.
HOWEVER, they are highly vulnerable to "plasma based" weapons. And since SW has a fair number of "plasma" weapons (plasma bolts, not lasers) they have a good chance to do harm.
BUT keep in mind that basically EVERY shot from a Space Marines BASIC weapon would be about the size of a 20oz bottle being shot at you with enough power to go through metal. So the "ceramic based" armor of SW would be completely pointless.
SO, 1/2 of SW's weapons would be ignored, their armor would be useless and their overall "health" (toughness) would be weaker than Space Marines..... The REST of the Warhammer forces are "basic humans" with some level of weapons and armor, but nothing compared to the "basic Stormtrooper".
In short, LIKE the Warhammer universe... it would be a SEA of humans, until the "salvation" of the Space Marines showing up.
No their not and second its not laswrs every weapon 8n star wars is plasma based same thing that is Used as a anti terminator weapon in warhammed
the read with white are blood marines and the read with horns are caos
so the SW army have more men and a good bunch of the 40k army is actually fantasy troopers, who are obviously much weaker due to their weapons and after giving the 40k army this disadvantage, it is an even fight. so a real 40k army would actually have way more soldiers on the field and easily win every time
LOL, included Fantasy with 40K. I guess its necessary to give SW a chance.
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"Every Warhammer 40k Army" Most of them aren't even from 40k. Why not just say "Every Warhammer Army"? :P
Should replace the title to warhammer instead of Warhammer 40k
middle earth is one planet. warhammer 40k is MILLIONS
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hate to say it but in no world Jedi win against 40K. and why the hell didnt the dragons fly haha
War hammer is lord of the rings on space crack
Pls use some kriegsmen one day
No!!!!! You call blood raven chaos marine
Chainsword's for the win. Death Korps, the best clone army (technically not clones, but clone enough).
I would love to see a darth Vader (or Yoda) vs 10,000 of the worst character (you can tweak this all you want)
What about Warhammer Xenos?
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I'm stopping this before it starts, just to say that it will be pretty hilarious if the Warhammer side winds this with so many units from fantasy and not 40k... action!
Hey Daley let me tell you how you can tell a chaos and non chaos marine apart
If their chaos then they would usually have horns and spikes everywhere while non chaos are more refined, their armour is like a uniform with their symbols and chapter logos.
5:46 this mans running a NASA computer loading all of that laser fire
Daley they are called chainsaw swords😂
As far as Warhammer 40k goes, Imperial Guardsmen are among the weakest. They're the common soldier of the Imperium of Man. While the Space Marines are the most elite, something like Navy Seals. The strength of the Imperial guardsmen lays in their numbers, when they can overwhelm the enemy. The Cadian imperialguardsmen are however the most elite. Their company survived the utter annihilation of their planet!
This is hilarious and awesome but i had the thought, would not many of these units be interspersed? Especially Jedi. As hilarious as it is to see a wave of lightsabers cutting a swath i feel theyd be all spread across the battlefield and i wonder if thatd be more interesting
Correct
During the clone wars, Jedi were commonly dispersed in small squads or as command units.
I saw Warhammer and I instantly clicked (I prefer Warhammer fantasy to 40k but both are good)
does this include the Necron who can stop and manipulate time like Trazyn the Infinite?
I think that if every army was accurate with star wars and had hero units then star wars wins
Am I the only one bothered that the guy mixed 40k and Fantasy? If it was all 40k I dont think it would have been a question.
You should use Sith armies next time and decrease the number like 10k Sith against 1 million warhummer troops
It would not be fair especially if they had actual war hammer 40k units and not fantasy any war hammer phyker could kill a Jedi
Love this! fanbase vs fanbase xD