QSC K12.2 Review (after running them in 3 days non stop)
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2017
- Played the K12.2 for three days non stop to run them in a bit then let them loose for 6 hours ... . very impressive performers .. . better mids , better highs and so many more options for the bass
Excellent review so much info so well done
Good no nonsense review.Very clear to the point an informative.The way it should be done.
amen
Great Review!! I'm considering a pair of these QSC K12.2's to run with my single Peavey 18" subcompact sub. Only things I came across through some reviews was the following;
Break up when pushed & Boxy, tin compressed sound with not much bass.
I haven't heard these in person yet but, I will be very soon. I also understand the above falls on EQ as well as what presets were being used. Either case, I will be checking them out. Thanks again for the great review! 😊👍
Very helpful and informative..!
Cheers John
Agreed
Unko OPAZ: Big
That's what I like 😎
cooool!!!!!
Hey Guys. Owned these for about 3 weeks now and played 4 weddings a sweet 16 and 2 proms. They pound. So much more volume then the originals. Miss hit harder. Highs cleaner and low end hits about the same. I noticed mostly the midshipmen's are way punchier. For the price its definitely worth the upgrade. Someone asked if they have reverb..... No lol it does have tho a badass eq. Some people say the highs are too bright.... well dial them down in the eq. They are fully tunable. Such a great buy.
Thanks for your reply to the reverb question
I enjoyed this review. So informative. So human. Almost comedic to me for some reason. Thank you from the depths of my soul, Brother!
Thank you, I'll keep taking the tablets 😅
MY sentiments EXACTLY. Lovvved the review!!!!!
Cheers VINZ 👍
Really enjoyed your video. I'm considering purchasing these k12.2 speakers in July. My question is: Can I use a powered mixer for these? I have a Behringer ppa2000bt powered mixer/pa that has Bluetooth and I want to use the k12.2's as my mains. I have a MackieVLZ1202 unpowered mixer and was wondering if I can just go from the 1/4"outputs from the PPA2000BT to a channel in the Mackie,then just use the mains from that to the k12.2's?..or just run from the 1/4"out from PPA2000BT to the k12.2's?...any help would be greatly appriciated thanks😎
Dana Hart they’re active speakers
Not sure about the model of your mixer but most powered mixers would have a passive output signal besides the powered one .. one thing whatever you DO .. DO NOT plug the powered active signal to the inputs on the speakers.. you will fry the resistors... make sure you use non powered signals.. usually would say , aux or monitors . Just check the specs or user manual of ur mixer, I have a powered mixer Peavy and it works perfectly fine with my active QSC K12.2 .. which by the way best speakers ever made
For small gigs I’m trying to simplify my set up by connecting the vocal mic and guitar pickup straight into a K.2. However, by doing it this way is there chance I can mute reverb Fx (vocals / acoustic guitar ) in between songs ?
You can achieve this on your external mixer
I love my RCF HD 12's. I've always been very impressed with with the QSC's but was advised (at the time) that when driven hard they has some distortion at the high's.
How do the new QSC's compare to your (my?) RCF's regarding sound?
I mentioned in the video that the K12's are "ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR" 12's out there , NOT "THE BEST" 12's out there. I have listened to the HD12's and remembered them sounding great with a very natural open musical reproduction with loads of power in reserve. Regarding flexibility of a mixer section and DSP , i would choose the QSC. Regarding just sound quality alone as you mentioned , i would stick with RCF. No doubt about it , those HD12's are special.
Thank you for the kind response.
Hello there mate excellent review I only miss one more thing is there any sound coming out of the speakers when they’re turned on and gain is in 0DB is there any sound coming out of them in that position?? Thank you for the review❤️
Yes
What souns better? The RCF745 A or the qsck12.2? Do you also have comparis the qsc kw153?
The RCF sounds better. I've never had the pleasure of listening to the KW153 so can't comment
Thanks for your honest and fast reaction👍
Great review. Can this also positioned as a floor stage monitor?
Yes
Awesome video! I'm looking at the k12.2 vs Yamaha dsr 112. Which would you go with?
Thanks. When it comes to sound, everybody has their own personal preference. When it comes to brands each individual has their favourite. ...The mixer section, the extensive onboard DSP, the fan cooling and ultimately being 4kg lighter ... I would choose the QSC
Thanks. The thing that stands out to me is the 2 inch driver in the Yamaha vs the 1.4 in the Q. Will that make much of a difference do you believe?
On paper it should so should the wood cabinet. Whatever your ears find pleasing is most that matters therefore a back to back demo is a defenite must. That unfortunately is the best advice I can offer.
I compared my K8 with my K8.2 together with my DXR8. The sound of the Yamaha & QSC is quite similar. The DXR8 sounds better than the K8 but only marginally , the LF's (flat response) are more naturally pronounced. The K8.2 sounds better than the DXR8 but again not a million miles apart.They all reach great volume levels for their size and stay detailed and clean. What i find with both brands is their flat response is very accurate whereas some other brands out of the box are a bit or sometimes artificially enhanced. With a flat response the DSP can take over to make those minor adjustments.Personally i think it is difficult to adjust a speaker for different environments/applications when you don't have a near-to-true flat response as a much needed foundation. Musicians need this as a starting point especially for monitoring. You didn't say whether you were using the 12's for instruments or playback material. Maybe the DSR cabinet and improved/superior level of components/processing/construction is mirrored in the DSR 112 and maybe they eclipse the 12.2. If or whenever you hear a demo and make your decision, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Good luck
My appologies if this is a dumb question. I am looking for an active, quality powered speaker to put in my RV garage to take out to play outdoors when we camp. Sometimes with no others around. How do I stream from my iphone to one of these qsc speakers???? Thank you
Not a dumb question at all. Unfortunately you cannot stream with this speaker as it has no Bluetooth
The Behringer Eurolive B112W and the B115W would be a good choice. With both of the speakers you can stream music wirelessly from your smartphone and they are a fraction of the cost of the qsc. Hope this helps
This speaker is probably way more power than you need tbh. That behringer is a good bet.
Use alto blutooth.
Wish they would make 15 inch tops, lol 😂! Nice video 👍
They are 12s with the power of 15s
It is verry nice speaker I loved
I agree
great review 👍Which would you recommend to buy rcf art 932 or qsc k12.2? And one more option qsc k10.2 vs qsc k12.2? thank you in advance👋
Is this solely for dj use or other performances?
@@opaz. Like a DJ too, but more for singing, vocals, accordion playing Roland Fr 8x through them. I want to connect them through a mixing console of course and I have a Bose Sub 2. I have almost all events 60-70 people, rarely 100-150 people. I would be grateful to hear your opinion as a professional and make the right choice for myself, thank you 👋
You never thought of getting a 8" speaker or an S1. Why 12"?
@@opaz. I already have a set of 2 Bose S1 Pro boxen and a Bose Sub2 subwoofer. I want to buy a second set of speakers for more powerful ones, sometimes there is not enough sound from the S1 Pro. And now I'm thinking which rcf art 932, Qsc k12.2 or Qsc k10.2 should I buy? Which of these will pair best with the Bose Sub2?
Ok Michael. I have never listened to the 932 but I've used my pair of k12.2's which I highly recommend
Over the past few years I've found myself going the rcf route as they're speakers have proved to be exceptional. Without hearing the 935 it's a hard one to call. I would say that either would suit but the qsc has the mixer that just might come in handy and the crossover for use with your sub and the extensive onboard eq. For that reason (personally) I would choose the k12.2
Which speaker is the best?
1. RCF HD 12 MK4
2. QSC K12.2
3. EV EKX 12P
I have never heard the EKX so unfortunately I can't comment on that. Hopefully somebody else can give their opinion. If you said ETX12P or HD32 I could help.
You must do a comparison video just to get an idea where they stand in values.
Ray, Great minds think alike ... I've just uploaded one 👍
What's better 1 or 2? Any feedback now?
Can this be used as a stand alone DJ speaker for a 50 person crowd? Perhaps with some eq?
Yes
Would you compare to dxr12 mkii?
I don't have those 12's
@@stanbailly7856 the Yamaha DXR12 MKII are great speakers and feel their specs are underated. I would definitely trade my K12.2 for a pair of the DXR12 as they don't sound that harsh and the bass is phenomenal.
I’m was thinking the same thing
How are they compared with RCF HD32 ? Power / sound quality ...
RCF overall are not as powerfull, not as detailed (HF). They have a warmer smoother sound, more enthasis on the LF.
Hmm. I was expecting HD32 to be way better on HF as they have a 3 inch driver. Which one throws better at medium / far distance ? What would you choose overall ?
For me, the QSC. The mixer, the DSP, the detail, the warranty ... QSC is the only brand speaker I've ever had that's never let me down.
between rcf .FBT. YAMAHA AND QSC WICH IS BETTER ?????HELP HELP
Have you ever tried the Blackline series from MARTIN AUDIO ?
Would you recommmend this for a live band application in a church?
Yes, can't see why not. Do demo and take a listen to them first to make sure it suits your needs
Is this suits for (LCR) hometheater segments?
Think your money can be better spent elsewhere
@@opaz. means , i need to go for better than this or its not worth for that much spent for using as LCR in homecinema?
You can buy a dedicated, highly recommended purpose built LCR speaker at the fraction of the cost of a Q12.2
Any thoughts on how these would compare to the Bose L1 systems
I listened to the L1 for the very first time a couple of months ago. I saw one at a venue I visited, nobody was about so I plugged it in and gave it a quick fire up.
I ran a few tracks through it briefly but I needed to have it for longer to put it through its paces
I remember it sounding extremelying flat (which is good). For a column array I would have liked more low end. I know this isn't necessary for a majority of events but occasionally it's needed and it would be handy if it was available. Coverage in the room was good from what I remember and the unit itself is extremely compact.
Watch this space, it's on my list to upload a review sometime soon.
Thanks for your comments Michael. I'm just putting out there that the L1 was launched 4 years before the K12 was a twinkle in QSC's eye.
For many beginners who start off with cheap controllers or turntables, they needn't spend huge amounts on subs and tops. They can purchase a decent used bargain starter sound system with their starter budget.
I uploaded the L1 video as many beginner DJs who buy the latest expensive controllers or CDJs etc, also end up selling it all and just giving up. Just adding my 2 penneth to help beginners save their cash.
I had mackies but the ones I had (maybe just mine) blew. Repaired one and blew again so unfortunately I can't recommend. My K8's, 12's, 152's, 181's are real soldiers. So reliable. I must say I hate the limit meters & lights that keep coming on my evolves. I don't know if it comes on too early and has a very wide limit ceiling but it makes me feel very uneasy and nervous during events. Not a good feeling.
@@opaz. I would love to see a comparison of these against the F1 812's!! My concern on the Bose is the lack of fan cooling for DJ work along with pushing them.
Hey. In your opinion RCF715 VS QSC K12.2
or RCF735 VS QSC k12.2
RCF715
Thanks for the answer. If it is possible more in detail why? QSC more powerful 1000W RMS versus 700W RMS RCF715 only the latter has a larger speaker.
The 12.2 has a flatter frequency response out-of-the-box, too much LF from the 715
For the Live band, after all, would you advise?
Yes, good choice. Also consider the Yamaha DXR15
I never got a euro power cord WTF
will love to get a pair of this but i do more of outdoor event of 500 people pls advice thanks
VDJ FLEX
I have 2 sets...
with a set of kw 181 subs ...
worth every $$$
i own the Bose F1 sub they are light weight with 1000w of power, adding a pair of the Qsc k12.2 will not be a bad idea i hope this can rock outdoor of 500 people
Hmm , 500 people and outdoors .. . that's a lot of crowd noise to conquer. I was going to suggest 2 pairs of K12.2's as Rick has and of course with at least 2 subs. Alternatively much bigger cabinets instead of 12's to comfortably cope. Would be interesting to know how you get on or hopefully somebody else can offer much more valuable advice. Good luck
Im going to save up.. thanks im going to buy these
I can get a pair of brand new k12.2 for 1650€ is it a good deal?
Which country are you in Nicholas?
@@opaz. Cyprus
Keep looking, I think you can get a much better pricet han that. Have you tried bargaining as you're buying 2
Thanks for your reply you are awosome
I want get 2 subs for powerful bass. I am thinking for 2 jbl srx828sp's. Have you heard those
Would it be bad to put RCF tops to a KW181?
You must be a mind reader...Tomorrow i'll upload a demo of my RCF 745a on a KW181...there you'll find your answer
Fizyx , of course not. There is no rule that says you need to match a brands subs to their own brand tops. Although brands and their technical dept aim to match their tops to their own subs to get the most accurate results , you can still mix brands. No harm done ... I've made a video for you to show it can work ua-cam.com/video/jPMFCGmYr5g/v-deo.html
Very helpful. Thanks for all your hard work and time spreading the good word. Cheers
please tell me they have a reverb setting in the dsp, otherwise their outdated!
Steven Piekarski I wanna know this too
I think a dedicated reverb unit with decay time , tone & effect level would do a better job than any onboard effect on any active speaker. As reverb is readily available on PA drive racks , musicians mixers , Dj controllers/mixers etc if needed , I guess QSC considered other upgrades over a reverb setting to improve and update their product.
I’ve been running these non stop since 1989
Got great legs!
Who makes the drivers Celestion or emmenence????
I have no idea John
@@opaz. Celestion. I have been reliably informed! :-)
Oh, I knew they were in the K12 but not sure about the12.2
what about qsc 12.2 vs prx 812
Doing that upload RENE in the new year
J’ai écouté les qsc k12.2 et les Prx812w chez musicstore en Allemagne. Personnellement je préfère les prx.
Les qsc sont puissante mais le son n’est pas nette alors que le son du prx est + chaleureux + nette. Après c’est une histoire de goût.
I know damn well this dude did not say where's the fan 😡 the fan is on the
amplifier on top of the led screen
I HAVE A PAIR OF K10 ORIGINAL AND A DBX GO RACK AS A EQ COMPRESSOR (THE BEST $50 I SPEND) IT IS A ALL IN ONE .GREAT REVIEW, THANKS
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Nice speakers but for me at the moment wouldn't justify splashing that much cash i will up grad in a couple of years and would consider if the price drops.
What do you have Jay?
Hi Opaz.I have a pair of PVX15 Tops with 18" Ligwa subs which i up graded to 1500 RMS each speaker,
The PVX15 sound really good at high volume and i haven't really heard any speakers that sound better yet,
I personally prefer Passive to active speakers,Could you recommend any passive speakers i possibly look at looking for 15" or 12" must be 6oo RMS each or more.Great vid by the way
I totally agree with you Jay, you have a very capable system there which I'm sure you already know.
Hi, I have both k12 and k12.2 speakers. I tested both. in my opinion, and I like k12 sounds much better than k12.2
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I have the kw 181s... haven’t upgraded may not ever... got the kw 152s but my k12 .2s are my work horses use them the most...my cp 12 is for kid karaoke parties or wedding ceremonies... just focusing on the dance floor I did a thousand people event with that system minus 1 /18 inch and the cp 12 ...it went great... the event coordinator didn’t want that uncomfortable overbearing bass fucking up her event some of you young cats are into....sometime you have to just flow with the needs of your client... not what you personally like ...great way not to be hired or get your ass fired.
Andre... i had a wedding in a venue that accommodates 800 people. It had just under that inside, I'd been told 700+. I used 1 ES1203 & my Evolve 50 and it went great. Carpeted floor enhanced the low end and i got many compliments about the sound.
I went there again on one Saturday, months after that event and it was in preparation for a wedding, i went with a couple for their wedding planning.
Couldn't believe what i saw. The disco company had 6× 18" subs & 6 10" -12" tops. Sounded too Sub heavy and a bit muddy in my opinion. Might have been the sound test but they were all set up and playing all the 40 minutes i was there. Unnecessary, they could have travelled much lighter
Price too high for most DJs..
Why most budget DJs buy EVs, Mackies, Alto's...
Who the heck wants to spend 1grand on 1 speaker..
I stay with new alto 3s or EVs...
Thanks brother nice video... 👍
Great review. Take the stickers off though.
Thanks .. yeah , the stickers 😅
You should take those stickers off, great video though.
Yeah , they're off now .. thanks 😅
Just demo'd these in store. I felt like the highs seemed artificial. I also get the impression the k.2 versions rely more on a sub to complete the sound spectrum. For me the original k series is better bc it has bass boost, rca, and no digital dsp display - to me that is just something to go wrong
I know what you mean about the DEEP setting , was always good to have it in reserve as a secret weapon/backup (invisible internal sub). With the highs we'll all have our own preference and yes as with many speakers when they're coupled/playing with a sub it's hard to revert back without. The DSP is a godsend. I'd also like to add that all my QSC speakers are the only speakers i've had with bullet proof reliability .. they have never skipped a beat or had faults since I've had them. The warranty speaks for itself
See - you know what really matters. End of the day these speakers all sound great, they're loud and nice looking and functional and yada yada. The differences in feedback from people are mostly a matter of brand loyalty and exposure time to one over others. I think most perceived preferences are tantamount to placebo effect and those tone differences are cleaned up with the most basic 3 band eq and a half decent ear. K12 to me are solid but flat run high pitch so I eq them down - and when pushed I think the mids get muddy on them. SO i adjust the eq to help. I think I will ultimately end up doing a pair of QSCs just not sure which size/line. I think it looks nicer having the unity in design and name plate, they are manufactured to compliment each other and, my dude - as you said, QSC just lasts. That said, I am replacing a k12 that finally crapped out after 7 years of heavy use. QSC is quality stuff with a 6 year warranty. RCF only has a 3yr war. Yam has 7.. My colleague had a relatively new yamaha crap out and I had an EV crap out inside a year. Oh and when comparing the QSC to RCF - I've read reviews that say QSC is clearly louder. If that's true it kinda seals the deal for me. I like volume AND clarity. Would you say the KW112 or K12/12.2 are louder than RCF 32hd or art 732? Spec sheets have it close but QSC seems to outshine
I have been saying for years about brand loyalty , some customers will not change brand and benefit or learn from other brands products. I couldn't agree more about a lot of your comments. Sometime soon I shall be uploading my thoughts and a head-to-head with the RCF HD32 , EV ETX12P & K12.2. I believe max SPL is extremely tight with the (did you mean KW122 ), RCF 732 & K12.2/12 .. must only be a smidgen between them. Again , the cleanest at it's max SPL will be the outright winner
yes I meant kw122. I hope I see the video before making my purchase. But I doubt I would regret buying kw122s. I think versatility comes into the decision too and having the kw122 means better sound on their own as opposed to k12/12.2s on their own.
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promac is the best
For the money id stick with the original k series.
Wish I was wise as you. I couldve saved 200$ purchasing the originals. The New K12.2s bass is lacking BIG time!
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Sell them while you can!!!! And find a used pair of the QSC HPR122i!!! They ruined a great product..I don't purchase new QSC speakers anymore!!!
Thanks for your advice
Why, Jim - what don't you like about the new ones?
Cut the crap. QSC K12 is very good. And QSC K12 2 even better.I have both and use them playing live professionally for the last 5 years.
I have used QSC HPR122i this past 8 years and have bought every New QSC speaker that came out from them and ended up selling them all and reverted back to my HPR122i. These speakers were made too good. I even bought RCF TT22a which cost £4400 and sold them .
Bose 812's are a far better choice.
Care to elaborate? I'm trying to decide between the K12.2's and the F1 812's.