I think on the first turn the Flanker slams them, but as the fight gets longer the Flanker would start lagging behind, you know, the fighter which is known for low speed performance IRL
The SU-27 should have the upper hand in the one turn but the two turn will go the F-15 since it can retain energy better but it also comes down to the pilot. A simple mistake will get either shot down
So yet again some other nation get an awesome multi role jet that can perform both roles just as good or better than the American version. And the American version is yet again split between two tech tree options
The F-15E needs the better engines now. The Israeli one is better than the F-15C for BVR, equal for dogfighting and obviously way better for air to ground. But now the Israelis undeniably have the best eagle when truly it doesn’t have to be that way, Americans haven’t gotten the best version of their own aircraft in a very long time. Even the best tomcat is an event vehicle.
@@altacc0604 what are you talking about? The f15J is the better version I am talking about when I say better than American tree vehicles in the past . And now the f15I
Su34 vs su27? Do the canards help the su34 even though it has less thrust? I cant find any video with the su34 dogfighting. It's all about the grom 1 and 2....
It is already a thing If you take off with for example the f15 and deploy flaps while doing so it automatically raises/deploys them depending on your speed if you don't raise them manually
So, it’s actually the J(m), it’s 400kg lighter I believe, and has the old engines of the F15A, so it’s still a close dogfight, but the J(m) should win every time
@@G1smurphywtthe F15E had the upgraded engines first, and is running weapons found on the late E variant but is missing the engines, it’s a senseless change with a senseless reason
Everyone should use the Gripen because the Gripen can do everything like a beast the Gripen is the main goat of top tier and still the Gripen can kill everything from wt #Gripen #JAS39
I feel like you could’ve better showed the F-15I’s advantages by utilizing the vertical more in these fights. I’m not saying you didn’t fly it right, but when you have all that power and TWR, you gotta use it as much as possible
from what i know of the F-15E its not shown off in war thunder too well its the fastest military jet on earth besides the SR-71 black bird wich is not armed its got a insane ammount of bombs and missiles to choose from alot of them arent even in WT or DCS the engine power should be stronger then the F-15i being that the F-15E is the fastest jet on earth at mach 2.5 F-15E would be abit heavier due to the extra seat and hard points and computers but not a huge difference
something to add is the F-15E can climb like a rocket into the sky at 90 degrees and the other variants cant from what ive been reading so in war thunder we should be able to have half a tank and 2 missiles and climb to 10,000m no worries
All the more reason to add the PW-229 engines to the F-15E. It won't make it OP like Gaijin expects, it will make it a sidegrade to the F-15C (plus it can do CAS). Both vehicles have their place, but the F-15E with only PW-220 engines will be a useless pick over the F-15C other than to grind out CAS ordinance.
The F-15I is overperforming, it’s thrust curves are too good and it has way to little drag. It’ll still be good, but not nearly as good as it is in the dev
This is absolutely unrealistic, these planes look like from gtav when the Su-27 and MIG-29 easly beats f15/16 IRL in a dogfight but ingame the f15/16 always wins. stupid usa bias
@@ron_23951 that I agree with but he claimed they could easily beat them. They’re better at the 1 circle but not the 2 circle. It’s really up to the pilots but it won’t be an easy fight.
They NEED to give the E the upgraded 229 engines because its extremely dumb how theyre reasoning for not giving the American jet upgraded engines didnt apply to Israel. (Yes im aware the I only ever use the 229 however the E was equipped with the 229 six years before we sold it to israel)
*the first F-15E was equipped with 229 engines 6 years earlier and that was only for testing. Engine modification of F-15E’s ended in mid 00’s and a lot of F-15E’s never got those engines and even now you can see how a lot of most modern F-15E’s with 120C/D’s and AESA radars are still powered by PW-220 engines
doing something like this on war thunder compared to DCS world is really showing that DCS is better way better due to better flight model and it being a lot more realistic then war thunder, you would not see pilots pulling air brake, or popping landing flaps in DCS compared to WT so WT should just quit adding modern era jets and let DCS take over.
@@fqeagles21they already implemented it for a Su-27 so you can see how it “helps”, autoflaps start working at 800kph on the Su-27 in game and guess what? This jet’s deceleration per AoA at 799kph is getting around 2x times higher than at 801kph (you can check it using WTRTI + full real control to maintain any AoA and speed you want) so yeah, thanks, no need this sh*t for other jets in WT
its funny how everyone is getting stressed about how to pronounce the f15I's name. its exacly how its spelled "ra am" lmao
I know right?
No one is concerned with the pronunciation i assure you
FINALLY THE SUPER EAGLE WILL BE FOUND
That would be the EX.
@@Optimaloptimusbut before the ex don't forget the silent eagle
@@As19240 Eh, it doesn’t’t have as advanced radar or RWR but I get it.
F15I - faster top speed, stronger climb rate, better low speed acceleration and climb
F15C - good middle ground, possibly more maneuverable, decent low speed performance
F15E - paper weight, sluggish, underpowered engine performance, but ground ponder
@@Frost_x_NB Decent low speed performance of f-15c?)
engines will be changes in final update to be the 229's for the E
how about the j?
Flying the Su27 in war thunder is like flying the F15C that has the flight model of the F15E
Not really, it’s not as hopelessly bad as people say
@@christopherchartier3017It's mostly fine for ARB. 1v1s are incredibly frustrating and obviously unfair.
@@christopherchartier3017 yeah, its honestly decently realistic other than the unrealistically bad energy bleed
@@ThePppp89 1v1’s in top tier are incredibly rare anyways
For real, max fuel - bus without turn
Low fuel - losts all energy in 1st turn but still bad turn compared to F16, MiG 29
Why do i feel like the F15e and F15I would still crush the flankers in a dogfight
I think on the first turn the Flanker slams them, but as the fight gets longer the Flanker would start lagging behind, you know, the fighter which is known for low speed performance IRL
The SU-27 should have the upper hand in the one turn but the two turn will go the F-15 since it can retain energy better but it also comes down to the pilot. A simple mistake will get either shot down
So yet again some other nation get an awesome multi role jet that can perform both roles just as good or better than the American version. And the American version is yet again split between two tech tree options
The F-15E needs the better engines now. The Israeli one is better than the F-15C for BVR, equal for dogfighting and obviously way better for air to ground. But now the Israelis undeniably have the best eagle when truly it doesn’t have to be that way, Americans haven’t gotten the best version of their own aircraft in a very long time. Even the best tomcat is an event vehicle.
no, israel f15s in game have no tws for some reason
@@altacc0604 that got fixed lmao they added tws after many bug reports
In what way is the f15i better than the f15c in bvr?
@ it’s fast as fuck
@@altacc0604 what are you talking about? The f15J is the better version I am talking about when I say better than American tree vehicles in the past . And now the f15I
Hello guys once again its mat thanks all patrons…..
Gotta talk about the RWR changes Matt
yeah im planning to do so tmr, so many vids to do it haha
@@matawg upload schedule goes brrrr
@@matawg bro how tf do you pump out videos like a factory 😭
That first dogfight made me cringe so hard. Had so many opportunities to kill him but disengaged everytime
Star of Ace Combat series. 50 years of F-15 in 2022.
Why isn't USA getting the best version of their own F-15E?
Su34 vs su27? Do the canards help the su34 even though it has less thrust? I cant find any video with the su34 dogfighting. It's all about the grom 1 and 2....
something that is still missing on war thunder is auto flaps, irl fbw fighters autodeploy flaps to maintai authority on the aircraft
It is already a thing
If you take off with for example the f15 and deploy flaps while doing so it automatically raises/deploys them depending on your speed if you don't raise them manually
i'd like to see the F-15I vs the F-15C (m)in the japanese tree. It should be slightly lighter than the F-15C
So, it’s actually the J(m), it’s 400kg lighter I believe, and has the old engines of the F15A, so it’s still a close dogfight, but the J(m) should win every time
I can’t understand why they put the upgraded engine in the I but not the E
Edit: I feel like I started a small war.
Cuz the I had better engines irl
@@G1smurphywtthe F15E had the upgraded engines first, and is running weapons found on the late E variant but is missing the engines, it’s a senseless change with a senseless reason
@@G1smurphywt the the f-15E can have the F100-PW-229 or the 220, so why did they put the 220 in the E instead of the 229 like the I has
@@joshharris2793 cause israel is minor nation full of clones especially air ones so they have to add something to force ppl to grind another nation
@@joshharris2793the I was made before the E got the upgraded engines
MatAWG can you please make a top 5 list on best planes after update so we know where to start grinding. For both Jet and CAS. Thank you!
yeah for sure, I'll for the update to release to do so cause there is a lot of stuff wip still
@matawg thanks man, you are the best!
S show us how you are beating the F15e/I with a Su27 or mig29
Bro listend to me he does read comments nice 👍 god job matt
Everyone should use the Gripen because the Gripen can do everything like a beast the Gripen is the main goat of top tier and still the Gripen can kill everything from wt #Gripen #JAS39
the f15 i in the 1st fight had 10 min of fuel but the f15 e had 20?
Fr
Where are the F-15 BOL PODS?
If u carry the double of the fuel in F15E, its obviously turn less than the F15I...
9:24 why is his canopy open 😭
Mark my words mig25 next
Put your landong flaps out when you use airbrake do you can get more aoa when still losing speed
Theoretically I should be better in 2 circle because of the thrust, and C should beat it in 1 circle because it`s lighter.
What is this maps name? looks amazing
Caribbean Islands you can find it when you are creating a custom game
@@ron_23951 thanks fam
the pronunciation is RA-AM not RAM
I feel like you could’ve better showed the F-15I’s advantages by utilizing the vertical more in these fights. I’m not saying you didn’t fly it right, but when you have all that power and TWR, you gotta use it as much as possible
yeah those first ones I was still feeling it, in general just I need more time getting accustomed
@ no worries, good vid
from what i know of the F-15E its not shown off in war thunder too well
its the fastest military jet on earth besides the SR-71 black bird wich is not armed
its got a insane ammount of bombs and missiles to choose from alot of them arent even in WT or DCS
the engine power should be stronger then the F-15i being that the F-15E is the fastest jet on earth at mach 2.5
F-15E would be abit heavier due to the extra seat and hard points and computers but not a huge difference
something to add is the F-15E can climb like a rocket into the sky at 90 degrees and the other variants cant from what ive been reading so in war thunder we should be able to have half a tank and 2 missiles and climb to 10,000m no worries
eagle vs eagle vs eagle vs eagle
Can you test the su 34 in a dogfight
its not good lol but it pulls
If you don’t win in the fist turn kiss your ass goodbye basically
Did fly mig-21? So all the top tier Soviets are +-same. Except for missiles
All the more reason to add the PW-229 engines to the F-15E. It won't make it OP like Gaijin expects, it will make it a sidegrade to the F-15C (plus it can do CAS). Both vehicles have their place, but the F-15E with only PW-220 engines will be a useless pick over the F-15C other than to grind out CAS ordinance.
SHOUT IF YOU LOVE ISRAEL!!!!!!!!! RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F15I is gonna dominate ;-;
American made jets will still dominate*
@@mangosuppe8706 But not the american jets in the US tech tree :)
@@iboopy-fl2ic They already are and have always been top 2 since the beginning of the game almost
The F-15I is overperforming, it’s thrust curves are too good and it has way to little drag. It’ll still be good, but not nearly as good as it is in the dev
@@Timber-043 Gaijin glazes israel-
Nothing matters anymore.
The RWR nerf just killed the game for me 😢
Most top top tiers weren’t effected that bad, but I completely understand where you’re coming from
What happened I am not up to date on everything
@@batlax18 i mean the pantsir not identifiable? Wth? Or PD for a wide range of aircraft?
@@N-A762 General Lee made a good video about it
@@AGmu96I agree the fact we can’t tell if a Pantsir is looking at us has to be the greatest flop.
This is absolutely unrealistic, these planes look like from gtav when the Su-27 and MIG-29 easly beats f15/16 IRL in a dogfight but ingame the f15/16 always wins. stupid usa bias
A SU or MIG would never get this close to an American f15 or f16 irl
No they really don’t. You should do more research.
@@mattcooper6591they can win if they do it correctly
@@mattcooper6591 we did and we all know the Su-27 and MiG-29(SMT) are absolute dogshit compared to IRL vs f15/6 ingame and IRL
@@ron_23951 that I agree with but he claimed they could easily beat them. They’re better at the 1 circle but not the 2 circle. It’s really up to the pilots but it won’t be an easy fight.
They NEED to give the E the upgraded 229 engines because its extremely dumb how theyre reasoning for not giving the American jet upgraded engines didnt apply to Israel. (Yes im aware the I only ever use the 229 however the E was equipped with the 229 six years before we sold it to israel)
*the first F-15E was equipped with 229 engines 6 years earlier and that was only for testing.
Engine modification of F-15E’s ended in mid 00’s and a lot of F-15E’s never got those engines and even now you can see how a lot of most modern F-15E’s with 120C/D’s and AESA radars are still powered by PW-220 engines
why are you dogfighting the f15c and not the f15a? the f15c is dogshit in a dogfight lol
doing something like this on war thunder compared to DCS world is really showing that DCS is better way better due to better flight model and it being a lot more realistic then war thunder, you would not see pilots pulling air brake, or popping landing flaps in DCS compared to WT so WT should just quit adding modern era jets and let DCS take over.
IRL jet use auto flaps to maintain control of the AC ,WT should implement it
@@fqeagles21they already implemented it for a Su-27 so you can see how it “helps”, autoflaps start working at 800kph on the Su-27 in game and guess what? This jet’s deceleration per AoA at 799kph is getting around 2x times higher than at 801kph (you can check it using WTRTI + full real control to maintain any AoA and speed you want) so yeah, thanks, no need this sh*t for other jets in WT