@@f4iryblue yes, that's my point. That the silk lasted longer and that there was a lot of wind blowing at that, whereas the steel was in a relatively static atmosphere
But you also have to consider that the leaves or twigs that the silk was attached too could have been bending when more weight was added and therefore allowing the silk to hold more weight.
They’re actually genetically modifying goats to produce the proteins that make spider silk in their milk. Since spiders are too solitary and inefficient to farm silk from. Spider goats for the win.
@@janbaxa3282 yeah so the silk is stronger. It had a less stable place while holding more weight. Not to mention all of the weights weren’t touching the steel wire while all the weights on the silk did.
@@priyanshumishra5873 well sorry for my lack of knowledge about airplanes I'll make sure to read an encyclopedia about aircrafts When I saw jet I thought of a fighter jet not a "Boeing 747"
I was expecting to watch a video of a grown man milking spiders until he could weave a spider silk rope and then hang from it, but i guess it does make more sense like this...
Spider silk can be harvested from genetically modified farm animals. They produce the same protein found in spider silk with their breast milk. The milk is then turned into fibers.
I am just really impressed by the spider silk as well as the spider itself. A spider created its web right next to my main door, I was enjoying the sun and saw the web. I just broke one of its thread that was connecting the web to main door. I just stood there and see that the spider came, saw that thread is broken, went down on the ground, picked that thread up and connected it back exactly where I broke it. I was just absolutely mind blown by that. What an amazing creature.
@Tom R no it isn't. Plants can't hold on to the weight unless and until the silk is strong enough to secure it in place. To top that, steel wire was in a static location (no wind or external factor whatsoever). Spider silk had wind dragging the weights down too so add that to the list. Spider silk definetely too strong
The fact that the spider silk was carrying all that weight with a good little breeze makes its strength all the more impressive. I bet if you had the spider silk anchored indoors to rigid structure, it would have held at least three times as much as the steel.
I like the experiment. Very interesting. Something to consider: weight distribution. I noticed that the spider silk looks evenly distributed than the weights on the steel wire just before it broke. I mean, if it was a "scaled fuzzy wire hooks" would the steel wire hold more weights or will it break faster?
It's exactly as you say, the spread out weight distribution in silk gives it an unfair advantage. Ideally what is done to measure tensile strength is to prepare a hook-like structure that is hung from the material, and then weights are added onto the hook, so that the application point of the force is a single spot. Additionally, how the material is behaving should also be taken into account: if a rod isn't bending elastically and is instead bending plastically irreversibly, then even if it can hold a bigger weight, it's not apt for withstanding repeated loads. There's a lot of properties that are of interest in a material beyond it's tensile limit. Another inaccurate factor in this video is the amount of forces put onto the wire/rope by the leaves or the table. I would have designed the experiment so that one end of the rope would've been fixed to something like a pole and then a weight would've been hung from the other end, being suspended in the air.
@@oneicarus oh yeah. The stretchiness of the spider silk and the steel wire. The experiment may be lacking to some but it sure is a good way to introduce someone to science and engineering.
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The thing is, you could spend vast amounts of time and money getting in to all the tiny details that can affect such experiments. So where do you stop? Temperature, humidity, the mounting methods, the particular species of spider, the exact diameter of the silk, the exact composition of the steel alloy, the number of strands in the steel wire, how the load is spread... the list of possible variables is as long as your arm. This was just a cool little basic demonstration. 🙂
There are several companies working on it right now. Check out Kraig biocraft laboratorys. They’ve managed to input spider DNA into silkworms. And the worms are able to secret spider silk. Currently getting production going in Vietnam.
This! Especially with his most recent success in producing small bits of it in solution. His latest video on that project was really awesome! I feel like he might not be as popular do to his videos being a lot less hold your hand type science, so you need to have a better background of information in order to be able to truly enjoy/appreciate his videos
There’s also a few variables to consider… the wind is adding more force to the spider silk and as you add more weights it increases the surface area which the wind acts on. Also because of the scale difference the small added force you apply when placing the small weights make much more of a difference than the larger weights for the steel rod. So if you consider that then you can also consider that the spider silk may be even stronger than your result.
Interesting video, one of my favorites of yours so far, I do have 2 questions though: 1) When you say how thick of a web you would need if you were Spider-Man, are you taking into account the extra tension from swinging on it? 2) Are you making it thicker to accommodate it stretching from the weight as well? These are not criticisms, but actual questions I pondered after the video.
Ever since I found the channel I have been watching it everyday. Thanks for your videos you channel is on of the best on UA-cam, because It's all about science.
The test had some issues. The steel was connected to hard points, spider web was connected to bendable plants, which was in the breeze. Would be awesome to get both tests in a lab to reduce variables.
@@favremysabre7839 It depends on which Spiderman you refer to. I think the original Spider-man had man made web shooters, but the Sam Raimi one had organic webshooters from his wrist. And for a semi-troll response, technically even the organic web version isn't from a spider but from a human, Spider-man.
To determine yield/tensile strength from applied bending moments from point loads on simply supported members such as the one on this video, the equation is (Load * Span Length)/(4 * Section modulus). For circular cross sections the section modulus is proportional to the diameter cubed. Thus to accurately compare the tensile strengths of the two material the load should be divided by diameter cubed, not the area like was done in the video. Because of this the steel should actually have smaller weights and the spider web seems stronger in the video than it actually is in reality. Additionaly, the span length was bigger on the steel, increasing the applied moment and thus giving the spider silk even more of an unfair advantage.
@@vinsplayer2634 That does the opposite of "balancing it out" it simply skewers the results even further invalidating the data. Of course the biggest problem is all of these tests is that are not like for like comparison's. Spider's silk is actually made up of several smaller treads wrapped around each other. So if you wanted to test if it was actually test if spider silk is stronger then steel you should be using steel cable instead of wire.
Expecting a non specialist UA-cam channel to have all the equipment to test such materials with absolute accuracy is a bit disingenuous. But as a basic demonstration, this is more than adequate. The calculations have been done many times, by many different researchers. In terms of tensile strength, Spider silk is considerably stronger than steel, weight for weight. So are glass fibres, carbon fibres, Nylon, Kevlar and other para aramids.
That spider-silk was also under significant shock load. The wind was starting to pick up towards the end. That makes a considerable difference. - Thank you again for the great content
That's pretty amazing stuff! The spider silk disconnecting from the leaf is certainly a factor in its breaking, I guess you'd have to remove the silk and tie it to some secure fixtures for a fair test!?
This was one of the first things I learnt about when I was doing my Civil Engineering degree.. I don't know about some of the synthetics we have now., like Kevlar, Spectra, etc... but for tensile strength, in most 'non extreme' environments, spiderweb was stronger than hi-tensile poststressing steel tendons. In the experiment here, I would think the steel might've failed at the mounting joint, with a type of shear failure, as the twisting of the wire (I assume exists?) creates a stress concentrator.. and would 'attract' the force to it.... So, maybe the steel didn't fail in tension- you'd need to have some strain gauges or at least a log of the the tensile force in the wire to catch the yield point as the steel fails... A fun video, once again, though....
I hate to be a nerd, but with the technology we have, we are able to create synthetic spider silk. As it is, it stands at about 1/40 of the width of a human hair, and if you were to up the width to just 2mm (the size of a spaghetti noodle), you could withstand 900 pounds of force. That is enough for a polar bear to hang on without breaking. Here is where I'd like to introduce carbon nanotubes. these are the result of a flat sheet of carbon atoms rolled up into a tube, Which are also the same material that make up diamonds (one of the strongest materials). These forms are insanely strong, and at a diameter of 2mm, could withstand the force of 40,000 pounds. That’s almost as much as 2 school busses. Now to the point. theoretically, mixing the two organics together could result in not only incredible tensile strength but also elasticity, basically making Spider-Man a possibility because carbon tubes can be made into a thread.
"So are we going to, build a building out of spider silk and compare it to a building made of steel? NOPE. The best place to start is to look for a form factor of steel that matches the form factor that spider silk comes in." - Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Yeah it's not exactly the right comparison. Also that was 1 sample. We'd need to have a few of the same tests in case that steel had some imperfection an let go too soon.
But you actually have to consider, that the angle of the Spider silk was much steeper, so it has less vertical force pulling on it. The Steel cable however didn´t hang through as much, so it felt a higher force. For example, if you hang the some weight on a line and you want it to not hang down, you have too pull really hard on one end, however, if you let it hang down a little bit, the amount you have to pull reduces quiet a bit!
This is also the trick the spider web utilizes to "withstand" higher forces. it is really flexible to utilize the mechanical advantage of hanging the weight lower if something is caught in the net Nerdy explanation: With rather horizontal cables, a big horizontal force results to offset the vertical force of the weights. This appears as strings/cables that can only take load along their direction (only normal stresses). if the two forces (vertical and horizontal forces) get added, it results in higher loads for straighter cables. In essence, it is just a static force equilibrium problem I specifically searched for this comment, as I thought i couldn't be the first one noticing Great comprehensible example.
If spiders were the size of humans, we wouldn't even stand a chance..| holy shit the replies just gave me an idea and suddenly i made something while reading all of these replies a single braincell.. thank you people for making my iq bigger
That is pretty incredible, but I feel like to compare this better since the wire is thicker, you would also have to have it strung out wider to scale it up from the spider web. But either way, amazing how it still broke sooner!
Good video. However, I’m sure that different spiders have different strengths of webs. The black widow is very strong It would be cool to compare the web strength of a black widow to other more common spider webs.
Spider silk isn’t inherently “stronger” than steel in terms of raw tensile strength, but it is much more flexible and resilient. Spider silk has a unique combination of strength and elasticity, which allows it to stretch and absorb energy without breaking, kinda like how if you tie a weight to a small plastic cord it will snap, but if you do the same for a piece of rubber it will stretch to the ground without actually snapping. Steel is rigid and strong but lacks flexibility. For a single strand of equal thickness, steel would generally outperform spider silk in terms of absolute strength. However, when you have many fine strands of spider silk, like in the MythBusters experiment, the combined flexibility and strength of the silk strands allow the material to hold more weight overall before failing
There's this spider web from a tree, that has caught a branch mid air near where I live. As from this I knew they were very strong also wind is blowing it around and it's been there for weeks. Starting to think this spider is on steroids 😂
This guy really has some cool stuff, then other times, I realize how good my weed is, because I realized I watched a video of a guy hanging pipe cleaners on a spider web. Lol
I wonder what applications spider silk could potentially have if it’s able to be harvested efficiently. It’s not more durable than steel obviously, but its tensile strength is 2x stronger which is really damn impressive.
Regarding how much web to hold yourself up, remember that you'd also be swinging from it and/or catching moving bad guys, so maybe more than a 1mm thick string would be required after all.
wdym it made perfect sense to me. he just said it was the anchor points on which the spider web as a whole rests on. he explained it very clearly and simply.
Seems like the spider web test was a bit iffy. It was windy so you would either have to somehow account for the drag or do the experiment in a closed room. Also the distribution of weights on both tests was different.
Secret spider council: "This mf be doing science experiments is ok but now it has come to our homes. We gotta protect our homes or else he gonna destroy the spider species gradually"
Mythbusters did an episode on this and they actually got thousands of strands of spider silk, and it was incredible how much better it was than steel
mythbuster junior
@@idontthinkso2431 oh yeah, I think your right
What Seaaon & Episode?
@@SlickONick I don't really remember, but it probably isn't too far in since we didn't watch the show very often, just remembered the vid.
@@madixj cool, Thx :)
Take into consideration that there was a lot of wind blowing too
hmm maybe he should have a control but the silk was pretty strong, 2 times stronger then the steel wire
No
@@f4iryblue yes, that's my point. That the silk lasted longer and that there was a lot of wind blowing at that, whereas the steel was in a relatively static atmosphere
But you also have to consider that the leaves or twigs that the silk was attached too could have been bending when more weight was added and therefore allowing the silk to hold more weight.
@@jacobdecerqueira702 That's not an advantage, it's even a small disadvantage as bending a wire puts additional stress on it.
They’re actually genetically modifying goats to produce the proteins that make spider silk in their milk. Since spiders are too solitary and inefficient to farm silk from. Spider goats for the win.
PETA moment
Did you know spiders produce milk?
@@LShaver947 :)
Woah
@@HandledToaster2 lol, because creating a farm with 20000000 spiders wouldn't be abuse
and the spider silk also was bouncing around in the wind stressing it that much more
Buuuuuut :D
Spider silk pull that plant, but steel was fixed in place!
@@janbaxa3282 fax
@@janbaxa3282 yeah so the silk is stronger. It had a less stable place while holding more weight. Not to mention all of the weights weren’t touching the steel wire while all the weights on the silk did.
should have trid it in Vaccum
@@uday20101 lol
Spider: spins silk
Human: invents steel wire
Spider: "Pathetic."
Lmao
Spider: Sense of Superiority
You dare challenge me *MORTAL* !?
😂😂😂
Spider- I SEE NO GOD UP HERE… EXEPT FOR ME!!!!
Young me: I can become spiderman
Little older me: Spiderman is just fictional
Now: I can become spiderman
I just need a spider farm and a way to despence the webbing
Spider-Man is fictional but I can become Spider-Man.
It actually depends on what we're talking about him tho, the web shooters are probably possible but the impossible part is the spider bite
@@jurassicdano3695, "I can became fictional"
And Spiderman’s webbing is a little thicker than 1mm so he could swing without worries
Spider coming back be like: BRUH.
😂
"I leave for 20 mins..."
69 likes. Noice.
Lmao
You for real?
Why does this guy always look like he’s smiling through the pain
He looks like Todd Howard lol
Like Todd Howard smiling through the pain.
my question is why does he look like my gta character on the cayo perico heist
Harold’s son
Its the burden of knowledge
Just thinking about the fact that you'd only need a 1mm thick sized strand of spider silk to hold your entire body weight is insane..
@@priyanshumishra5873 I'm sorry?
What type of jet is 380 tonnes...
@@priyanshumishra5873 well sorry for my lack of knowledge about airplanes
I'll make sure to read an encyclopedia about aircrafts
When I saw jet I thought of a fighter jet not a "Boeing 747"
@@priyanshumishra5873 also really? Common sense? Does everyone in america have knowledge about airplane weights?
@@priyanshumishra5873, bruh
What happened here
I was expecting to watch a video of a grown man milking spiders until he could weave a spider silk rope and then hang from it, but i guess it does make more sense like this...
Have seen videos of people doing that to spiders? It’s horrible!
Spider silk can be harvested from genetically modified farm animals. They produce the same protein found in spider silk with their breast milk. The milk is then turned into fibers.
You can just use tarantulas since they cover their entire place with a ton of webs and harvest it once in a while, and it's probably easier
For real.
You have got too have small hands!!
No one:
This guy: Let's see how strong spider silk is!
Spider: WHO MOVED THE KITCHEN!?
Spider comes back to a statue of a pipe-cleaner Tarantula at his home.
*God is real*
@@marialiyubman HA! 😂
Lol
Spiders actually don't understand the concept of single purpose rooms. Their web is where they eat, sometimes sleep, and lay their eggs.
@@Baruch.Goldstein it’s a joke
“But steel’s heavier than feathers”
Lmao
Would you rather have an air head or a rom com protagonist?
We were talking steel and feathers.
I know. Dense heads and airheads right?
@@WrensthavAviovus what
@@WrensthavAviovus ?!
@@marivicespinosa5860 haha exactly. It's from a sketch comedy bit.
ua-cam.com/video/N3bEh-PEk1g/v-deo.html
Spider stronk👊
Yeah, I guess so...
yas
Wait untill this blows up
🅿️🅿️
Yep
4:00 For a second I though he was about to put a cheeto on there
lmao
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I am just really impressed by the spider silk as well as the spider itself. A spider created its web right next to my main door, I was enjoying the sun and saw the web. I just broke one of its thread that was connecting the web to main door. I just stood there and see that the spider came, saw that thread is broken, went down on the ground, picked that thread up and connected it back exactly where I broke it. I was just absolutely mind blown by that. What an amazing creature.
God doesn't mess around when he designs living machines. 🕷️
Did the spider also abuse you?
I am verry verry amazed. If spider silk is this strong, imagine how strong it would be woven into rope?
Dang, that would’ve been amazing
if possible, but price for it is too high and efficency too low
@@kadmuspl830 there are companys working on that right now.
Even worm silk is incredibly strong. Silk rope is one of the best ropes you can buy
Idk where i saw but a 20 cm thick spiderweb should be enough to stop a plane in motion
So its proven
Spiderman>Iron Man
But it was Ironman who gave the cool suit to Spiderman
@@martiddy He doesn't need the cool suit
@@martiddy what about the other spidermans and that web Fluid was made by spider man not iron man
😂
Me: walks through spider silk
Me again: sees this video
Me again again: thinks "so im stronger than steel"
Well if you are 1 milimeter thick then yeah.
imagine strangling people with spider silk
@@psychokrieg9674 no need I strangled someon- I-I mean.. yeah imagine that
@@rammingtime *hol up-*
@@batrongordeg That would be the joke.
incredible especially when the silk isn't secured to a surface like the steel wire
That makes it stronger
@@sicee i thought about it too. plants can bend.
Also it's not safe from wind
@@sicee qQ
@Tom R no it isn't. Plants can't hold on to the weight unless and until the silk is strong enough to secure it in place. To top that, steel wire was in a static location (no wind or external factor whatsoever). Spider silk had wind dragging the weights down too so add that to the list. Spider silk definetely too strong
Imagine being the spider watching this dude put shit on his property until it breaks. Lmfao.
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The fact that the spider silk was carrying all that weight with a good little breeze makes its strength all the more impressive.
I bet if you had the spider silk anchored indoors to rigid structure, it would have held at least three times as much as the steel.
Spider : *works hard to build web
Action Lab : it's free real estate
Spiderman speakin facs😎👉
@@CreylerNews lol
Action lab: "You wasn't paying rent and you left."
Spider: "Good point."
Spider be like : who made the Christmas decorations here man.
😂
😂😂
"And broke my sophisticated fly trap, do you have any idea how hard it is to make"
I love how only the spider silk has epic music
I was amazed, even at the third one on spider silk.
Edit: wow!! 1k likes..
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Me too that is really cool how strong it is🤯
What a pathetic top comment. Have you ever seen a large spider?
Imagine being able to poop titanium wire.
🤣😂👌
pulling it out must feel really weird
Loo
Man you got me laughing out loud at night when I using my phone secretly from mom
Lmao
I like the experiment. Very interesting.
Something to consider: weight distribution.
I noticed that the spider silk looks evenly distributed than the weights on the steel wire just before it broke.
I mean, if it was a "scaled fuzzy wire hooks" would the steel wire hold more weights or will it break faster?
It's exactly as you say, the spread out weight distribution in silk gives it an unfair advantage. Ideally what is done to measure tensile strength is to prepare a hook-like structure that is hung from the material, and then weights are added onto the hook, so that the application point of the force is a single spot.
Additionally, how the material is behaving should also be taken into account: if a rod isn't bending elastically and is instead bending plastically irreversibly, then even if it can hold a bigger weight, it's not apt for withstanding repeated loads.
There's a lot of properties that are of interest in a material beyond it's tensile limit.
Another inaccurate factor in this video is the amount of forces put onto the wire/rope by the leaves or the table.
I would have designed the experiment so that one end of the rope would've been fixed to something like a pole and then a weight would've been hung from the other end, being suspended in the air.
@@oneicarus oh yeah. The stretchiness of the spider silk and the steel wire.
The experiment may be lacking to some but it sure is a good way to introduce someone to science and engineering.
Imagine showing this to the hacksmith so they decide to **MAKE IT REAL**
The tought emporium+hacksmith
...
Alas, we can only imagine
Yes bro
Imagine u just leaving like 4 pipe cleaners there and when the spider gets back its like "Yo...WTF"
The spider watching you while you are hanging weights on their silk:
*EY YO WTF*
Spider during this experiment be like -
No no no that's illigal here 😤
Hey check out my new short horror video, funny af!:)
@@dankhalifa6937 Hey.. You know..
Can you just upload instead of Advertising or Self Promote in the public? Its more hard work than keep being a self promoter, its much Funner Promise, The only reason you came to live is to have fun, So U need Hard work Ok?
@@rajravenlabine3564 ok !
Karen spider: I'll sue you!
The spider 🕸 : So you want me to redo a whole days work again? Screw your Sayens esperiment!
Most of the spiders actually build their nets from scratch every night. So it doesn’t matter as much.
saiyans experiment?
@@danielzelpher7335 lol
spiders only take like an hour to make a whole web
This was an amazing experiment, thanks a ton! Do you think the plants bending for silk vs rigid attachments for steel skewed this a bit?
Yes, definitely. If the silk was attached to a stable bonding site, i hypothesize that it could up at 13, maybe 14 pipe cleaners.
The thing is, you could spend vast amounts of time and money getting in to all the tiny details that can affect such experiments. So where do you stop? Temperature, humidity, the mounting methods, the particular species of spider, the exact diameter of the silk, the exact composition of the steel alloy, the number of strands in the steel wire, how the load is spread... the list of possible variables is as long as your arm. This was just a cool little basic demonstration. 🙂
why was my heart pounding so much while rooting for the spider
Imagine in producing this spider silk on large scale , ohh it would change the world🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
imagine the silk factory leaks its spiders
@@smartspy007 off brooooooo
Though emporium wants to know your location!
There are several companies working on it right now. Check out Kraig biocraft laboratorys. They’ve managed to input spider DNA into silkworms. And the worms are able to secret spider silk. Currently getting production going in Vietnam.
@@techjunky82 really !!?? thats soo cool
Nice video mate I once heard 10cm thick spider web would stop a jumbo jet at full speed no problems
"the thought emporium" youtube channel is seeking to synthesize spidersilk in bulk...
only one mention of him yet. considering his achievements i'm dissapointed that he's so unpopular :(
@@0sliter0 same its a really amazing channel
This! Especially with his most recent success in producing small bits of it in solution. His latest video on that project was really awesome! I feel like he might not be as popular do to his videos being a lot less hold your hand type science, so you need to have a better background of information in order to be able to truly enjoy/appreciate his videos
@@0sliter0 who says he's so unpopular? i think he's great
So, spider-goats aren't a thing anymore?
Wind was also affecting the web
*man makes steel wire*
Spider: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
Haha the meme picture just poped into my head 😂
@@micheal3041993 Same L0L
wow, that is amazing strength of the web, that's why when you walk into a spider web and freak out you get all tangled
No, you get tangled bc it sticks to your skin.
Spider silk and steel after this video.
Spider silk: *stonks*
Steel: *No stonks*
Steel: PANIK*
Stinks
There’s also a few variables to consider… the wind is adding more force to the spider silk and as you add more weights it increases the surface area which the wind acts on. Also because of the scale difference the small added force you apply when placing the small weights make much more of a difference than the larger weights for the steel rod. So if you consider that then you can also consider that the spider silk may be even stronger than your result.
The Action Lab * Make this video.
Marvel Studio: Write that down write that down
xDDDD
I’m subbing lol
"My dragline broke!" - no spider ever
Child: I can become spiderman
Teenager: Spiderman is just fictional
*10 years layter watches Action Lab*
Adult: Now I can be spiderman😎
Interesting video, one of my favorites of yours so far, I do have 2 questions though:
1) When you say how thick of a web you would need if you were Spider-Man, are you taking into account the extra tension from swinging on it?
2) Are you making it thicker to accommodate it stretching from the weight as well?
These are not criticisms, but actual questions I pondered after the video.
For the first question, I think he just said to hold his own body weight, so I guess not to both of your questions
The action lab:is spider silk stronger than steel?
Spider man: Am i joke to you??
I see ure a fellow brawl stars player Colette huh
@Spider-Man what about Tobey Maguire spiderman, he didn't use web fluid, his body produced all his webs
Ever since I found the channel I have been watching it everyday. Thanks for your videos you channel is on of the best on UA-cam, because It's all about science.
Imagine seeing your neighbours doin this outside your house
Ok, now what?
Stfu
Others: you are destroying its house...
Me: ITS FOR SCIENCE !!!
Science destroy humor
The test had some issues. The steel was connected to hard points, spider web was connected to bendable plants, which was in the breeze. Would be awesome to get both tests in a lab to reduce variables.
See that makes sense because Spiderman just be leaving his webs everywhere but no one can see them.
actually, his webs dissolve in about 2-3 hours. That's said by himself in the comics and even the movie Spider-man : Homecoming.
@@freezinfire yea
Peter's web isn't from spiders lmao
@@Starryeyeddreamer2001 it is he got bit.
@@favremysabre7839 It depends on which Spiderman you refer to. I think the original Spider-man had man made web shooters, but the Sam Raimi one had organic webshooters from his wrist.
And for a semi-troll response, technically even the organic web version isn't from a spider but from a human, Spider-man.
I read the title as “Is spider silk stronger than Steve” and got really curious as to who steve was
Whoever he was, he isn't clearly as strong as spider silk 🤷♂️
The wind was also doing its thing during the silk test, even more impressive! So cool, thanks.
To determine yield/tensile strength from applied bending moments from point loads on simply supported members such as the one on this video, the equation is (Load * Span Length)/(4 * Section modulus). For circular cross sections the section modulus is proportional to the diameter cubed. Thus to accurately compare the tensile strengths of the two material the load should be divided by diameter cubed, not the area like was done in the video. Because of this the steel should actually have smaller weights and the spider web seems stronger in the video than it actually is in reality. Additionaly, the span length was bigger on the steel, increasing the applied moment and thus giving the spider silk even more of an unfair advantage.
@@vinsplayer2634 That does the opposite of "balancing it out" it simply skewers the results even further invalidating the data.
Of course the biggest problem is all of these tests is that are not like for like comparison's. Spider's silk is actually made up of several smaller treads wrapped around each other. So if you wanted to test if it was actually test if spider silk is stronger then steel you should be using steel cable instead of wire.
Expecting a non specialist UA-cam channel to have all the equipment to test such materials with absolute accuracy is a bit disingenuous. But as a basic demonstration, this is more than adequate. The calculations have been done many times, by many different researchers. In terms of tensile strength, Spider silk is considerably stronger than steel, weight for weight. So are glass fibres, carbon fibres, Nylon, Kevlar and other para aramids.
6:02 that's what she said
Why
@@sunilkumarpandey8336 what?
lol
🤣🤣🤣
Nice
That spider-silk was also under significant shock load. The wind was starting to pick up towards the end. That makes a considerable difference. - Thank you again for the great content
That's pretty amazing stuff! The spider silk disconnecting from the leaf is certainly a factor in its breaking, I guess you'd have to remove the silk and tie it to some secure fixtures for a fair test!?
5:58 That’s what she said.
this also depends on which spider silk it is.
the Golden silk orb-weaver has one of the strongest spider webs
Only good thing about quarantine is that he has more uploads lately
I was always skeptical about spiderman's web being so strong it can hold buildings, helicopters etc but this video proves that that is legit
Spider silk gets stronger with time, longer the silk is out stronger it becomes
The Action Lab: Hey look! I'm like Spiderman!
Me: Reality vs expectation: Better
Wouldn’t the bending of the plant stalk help the spidersilk? Also isn’t spidersilk elastic?
That makes the silk even better
This was one of the first things I learnt about when I was doing my Civil Engineering degree.. I don't know about some of the synthetics we have now., like Kevlar, Spectra, etc... but for tensile strength, in most 'non extreme' environments, spiderweb was stronger than hi-tensile poststressing steel tendons. In the experiment here, I would think the steel might've failed at the mounting joint, with a type of shear failure, as the twisting of the wire (I assume exists?) creates a stress concentrator.. and would 'attract' the force to it.... So, maybe the steel didn't fail in tension- you'd need to have some strain gauges or at least a log of the the tensile force in the wire to catch the yield point as the steel fails... A fun video, once again, though....
Action lab a few years later: Is a rubber band stronger than a diamond?
I couldn't stand the suspense, I had to skip several times to soothe my anxiety haha
so you're less strong than spider silk if you couldnt hold the suspense of your own mind capacity even
@@rexyaxy4314 Oh yeah, totally. I even think I'm weaker than the steel wire. I'm really a pain in the ass for myself lmao
I hate to be a nerd, but with the technology we have, we are able to create synthetic spider silk. As it is, it stands at about 1/40 of the width of a human hair, and if you were to up the width to just 2mm (the size of a spaghetti noodle), you could withstand 900 pounds of force. That is enough for a polar bear to hang on without breaking. Here is where I'd like to introduce carbon nanotubes. these are the result of a flat sheet of carbon atoms rolled up into a tube, Which are also the same material that make up diamonds (one of the strongest materials). These forms are insanely strong, and at a diameter of 2mm, could withstand the force of 40,000 pounds. That’s almost as much as 2 school busses. Now to the point. theoretically, mixing the two organics together could result in not only incredible tensile strength but also elasticity, basically making Spider-Man a possibility because carbon tubes can be made into a thread.
You’re not a nerd buddy, knowledge is power! 💪🏾
P.S. You know, I’m something of a scientist myself.
"So are we going to, build a building out of spider silk and compare it to a building made of steel? NOPE. The best place to start is to look for a form factor of steel that matches the form factor that spider silk comes in." - Adam Savage, Mythbusters
Yeah it's not exactly the right comparison. Also that was 1 sample. We'd need to have a few of the same tests in case that steel had some imperfection an let go too soon.
This video only looks at the resistance to stretching. For compression strength, steel will beat spiderwebs.
The weights on the steel one were closer to one spot adding more pressure and the spider one was more spread.
The silk was also fighting the wind and weak anchor points.
But you actually have to consider, that the angle of the Spider silk was much steeper, so it has less vertical force pulling on it. The Steel cable however didn´t hang through as much, so it felt a higher force. For example, if you hang the some weight on a line and you want it to not hang down, you have too pull really hard on one end, however, if you let it hang down a little bit, the amount you have to pull reduces quiet a bit!
This is also the trick the spider web utilizes to "withstand" higher forces.
it is really flexible to utilize the mechanical advantage of hanging the weight lower if something is caught in the net
Nerdy explanation:
With rather horizontal cables, a big horizontal force results to offset the vertical force of the weights.
This appears as strings/cables that can only take load along their direction (only normal stresses).
if the two forces (vertical and horizontal forces) get added, it results in higher loads for straighter cables.
In essence, it is just a static force equilibrium problem
I specifically searched for this comment, as I thought i couldn't be the first one noticing
Great comprehensible example.
“Someone built a small home in my backyard so I crushed it with a massive amount of weights.”
If spiders were the size of humans, we wouldn't even stand a chance..|
holy shit the replies just gave me an idea and suddenly i made something while reading all of these replies
a single braincell.. thank you people for making my iq bigger
Yes we would. We have guns. :
Also flamethrower
Mad scientists: hmm yes interesting
@@oxy6689 they'll outnumber us tho. we culd run out of resources then suddenly the extiction of humanity happens
@@He-lf9ur then we all colectively nuke the shit out of the planet. if we all die then we are taking the spiders with us.
That is pretty incredible, but I feel like to compare this better since the wire is thicker, you would also have to have it strung out wider to scale it up from the spider web. But either way, amazing how it still broke sooner!
So you just made a web shooter and some thick web that’s sticky and then Spider-Man is real?
yep
Good video. However, I’m sure that different spiders have different strengths of webs. The black widow is very strong It would be cool to compare the web strength of a black widow to other more common spider webs.
Spider silk isn’t inherently “stronger” than steel in terms of raw tensile strength, but it is much more flexible and resilient. Spider silk has a unique combination of strength and elasticity, which allows it to stretch and absorb energy without breaking, kinda like how if you tie a weight to a small plastic cord it will snap, but if you do the same for a piece of rubber it will stretch to the ground without actually snapping.
Steel is rigid and strong but lacks flexibility. For a single strand of equal thickness, steel would generally outperform spider silk in terms of absolute strength. However, when you have many fine strands of spider silk, like in the MythBusters experiment, the combined flexibility and strength of the silk strands allow the material to hold more weight overall before failing
There's this spider web from a tree, that has caught a branch mid air near where I live.
As from this I knew they were very strong also wind is blowing it around and it's been there for weeks.
Starting to think this spider is on steroids 😂
Or on doritos cause they poop web 🕸️
@@tahir8397 what does doritos have to do with web?
@@danielzelpher7335 he means taco bell
@@danielzelpher7335 I mean what happens when you eat so much spicy your ass is on 🔥 . And spiders poop silk . You got it
@I came from nothing well technically it's not actually their poop, it comes from a gland that produces the silk not their ass
This guy really has some cool stuff, then other times, I realize how good my weed is, because I realized I watched a video of a guy hanging pipe cleaners on a spider web. Lol
I wonder what applications spider silk could potentially have if it’s able to be harvested efficiently. It’s not more durable than steel obviously, but its tensile strength is 2x stronger which is really damn impressive.
I thought you were gonna mass breed spiders and take their spider silk lol
The Action Lab: *holding slimy white goop* "it just keeps coming!"
Me, an office fan: "That's what she said!"
same
So why are you a office fan? That job must really blow *ba dum tiss*
I love the intense music for this totally benign video
Regarding how much web to hold yourself up, remember that you'd also be swinging from it and/or catching moving bad guys, so maybe more than a 1mm thick string would be required after all.
You would probably want 5 or even 10mm, depending on the forces involved, and how much weight you would subject it to
Yet your arm will still rip off.
@@Vckobra66 you’re so right
@@Just_Sara thx
@@Vckobra66 y
“To connect the spider web to wherever they put the spider web”
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Action Lab - 2020
wdym it made perfect sense to me. he just said it was the anchor points on which the spider web as a whole rests on. he explained it very clearly and simply.
Seems like the spider web test was a bit iffy. It was windy so you would either have to somehow account for the drag or do the experiment in a closed room. Also the distribution of weights on both tests was different.
Spider : lets make a web to catch for tonight dinner
The action lab : LE Me See how strong your saliva is
Spider : BRUHHH...
It's not saliva
Its more like ass strans
@@larondemeritte2761 lmao
Saliva?🤨
Secret spider council:
"This mf be doing science experiments is ok but now it has come to our homes. We gotta protect our homes or else he gonna destroy the spider species gradually"
If spider silk can be synthetically made so easily we would've had many reliable ropes
Always had black widows around one time I was able to actually hang a brick in A web
I think I saw it on TV or something just had to do it for fun
that's amazing!
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6:02 thats what she said lmao
incredible! Also note that the spider threat has more force applied to it by the wind!
I thought you would hold yourself on that 1mm dia silk
steel do not have much elasticity so i guess spider's silk🤔
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Steel is even more elastic than rubber, becuz its coefficient of restitution is more near to 1, than rubber. But here that's not the reason
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@@regular_man2779 it's correct dude, i just studied that, for my exam😂
the spider seeing its home get removed by some interesting person after it took 3days to make it
This testing could of been more accurate if the tests where more controlled
Air resistance: Am I a joke to you?
Spiders watching him destroying the webs like 👁👄👁
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I thought he was really gonna support his entire weight by a 1mm thick spider silk 😂