I don’t think you have to explain yourself to anyone who lost on this if Crypterra doesn’t come back. People have to realise that investments are basically a form of gambling and rule 1 is not to invest money you cannot afford to lose. By the way, that’s also rules 2,3,4,etc. I myself calculated I could afford to lose 8k so that’s what I invested. I really hope they come back but if not I'm taking responsibility for my own actions. The buck stops with me.
Gambling is different from investing. Also, we can't be this complacent when there are scams like this. At least report them to the authorities is the least folks can do.
The definition of gamble. To take a chance on; venture; risk. If there is risk you are gambling by any other name. If there's no risk why aren't we all driving Lambos?
If crypterra is a scam it is crypterra's moral & legal responsibility . It's not your fault unless you knowingly promoted the scam . I personally don't believe that you were "in the know".
I love how you spent like... 20 minutes explaining crypterra looked sketchy in january and told us to only invest money we would'nt mind to lose... only to have people mad at you right now... damn people...
@dtt255 RELAX and keep your mouth shut if you don't even understand what I'm talking about. I'm referring to Roberts "RELAX" comments in Twitter and his screenshots of Crypterra "installing "new SSL-sertificates (which were self signed). OK? So RELAX @ddt255!
Great video Robert. Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this Crypterra situation. Any chance you could do a review on World mining. Not sure if they're legit or not
great job robert, keep on your good work. i hope they come back... i dont like losing money :-) and in crypterra i have a lot investet... i think not my best idea
if it goes its not your fault. I at least will accept Im responsible for my own actions. But bear in mind there are those who have been using the ref fees as network marketing ( which ı befriended one when ı said its risky at the moment he added people to crypterra ). youve lost money ıve lost money and some will lash out to you since your in easy access. it would be nice to get the site back up and running since ıve planed to pay some debts (small but debts all the same) from my earnings.
"Since I do work for Crypterra I do not have any special insights into the specific issues affecting this downtime" I think you mean "Since I do *NOT* work for Crypterra..."
You keep going back to the point of why would Crypterra do this and why would Crypterra do that if they were planning on scamming. While your point of them being a legitimate (even though they would be the worst legitimate cloud mining company ever) could be valid you are blinded by the other option. Every counterpoint to the evidence that you have of why they might not be a scam is easy....To make more money! They easily could have been the dumbest or smartest cloud mining scammers. If they've seen the playbook they may have taken steps to actively do things different to make more money as it's easy for us to identify the signs so it would be easy for the scammers to do things different to make it a more successful scam. On to the SSL Cert. and changing to a pin system. Of course you could be right but there's always another side to the coin. They could have been doing the pin change to have an excuse to stop paying people and allow them to receive more purchases. They may have intentionally removed the cert and or taken the site down to make it look like they were having problems with the servers as another excuse for not making payments and to come back online to receive more purchases before finally exit scamming. I think the likely situation is they changed to the pin so they could not pay people. I also think they did have legitimate problems with their cert which they were trying to fix in order to continue the scam and when they saw the price of Bitcoin tanking they said screw it and just ran. In my opinion I think it was never a real cloud mining business, there is no evidence that it ever was. Any of the points that you made about why would they do this or that if they weren't a real cloud mining company can easily be boiled down to either to make more money, they were really smart and ran a scam in a different way, or they were the dumbest scammers ever and didn't know what they were doing. Which is why they added one piece of the scam at a time. The only piece of evidence that I cannot counter is why they haven't removed the Twitter page so at least there is something to hang on to. I like your videos a lot Robert but try to see the other side of it when presenting frivolous evidence. You also said that you forgive anyone that didn't have faith in Crypterra when they came back online with the pin change. Again that proved nothing as they still weren't paying, so try to be more unbiased and see both sides of circumstantial evidence.....oh and I hate the television bar cuts too so good to hear you are removing them. Anyone blaming you for their investment is ridiculous.
Ryan, thank you for your excellent comments. I appreciate your balanced counterarguments. However, when it comes to looking at all sides of an issue, I like this old expression: "no matter how thin the pancake, there is always the other side."
Ryan and Robert thanks to both of you for pointing different view of a coin. To me personally both points is accepted and now the main point is which side/points we would love to believe. As an investor i would be very happy to see Crypterra coming back in action. Finger crossed and I'm still hopeful. Let see what's actually waiting for us.
Crypto Mania, I can ascertain that you have a moral issue with making money as an affiliate? I am providing a legitimate vetting service to my UA-cam followers. If they like my videos, find value in them, and make their own non-coerced decision to buy a mining contract, why should I not profit in some way from that?
Hi Robert, thanks for responding... We need to help new investors learn how to invest properly in crypto and expand the ecosystem in a proper way... Leading them off a cliff and to financial ruin is morally wrong - certainly you agree with that... Since ALL of you 'programs' have failed...
I like your analysis .... BTW I was thinking the same before I watched your video... I guess what you said is only logic according to the available details ... Good luck
Thanks for the video Robert! I’ve got my fingers crossed and still have hope crypterra will return. And it’s not even so much about the money for me, honestly. It’s the disappointment factor and trust issues that bother me.
I am only subscribed to two Crypto channels. The other guy is a day trader who got into crypto trading and shows off some of his strategies. You're one of the few crypto reviewers I've found with a modicum of integrity, and that's why you got my subscription. Don't listen to these whiny entitled millennials. That burden they so melodramatically espoused on about is theirs alone to carry. You just keep on rocking out these awesome informative videos and raking in those likes. ;D
Hey Robert, Looks like you have a great influence over Crypterra :) They must have listened to you yesterday.. Thanks for your work to help the community.
Even if you had nothing to do with them returning, updating their web site and being super chatty on Twitter, I hearby give you 100% of the credit . Perhaps you had nothing to do with it, but your positive attitude sure helped A LOT ! 👍
Crypterra tweeted a new message saying that they were absent because of law changes in China and are moving out if the country in order to survive. Is that right?? Thus would proving what u were saying was right, that they are a small company just like Binance which moved out too but they probably had more money to play with.
Yes, that is correct. Crypterra was, is, a mainland Chinese Bitcoin operator. If you followed the Bitcoin news you should have picked in the news that Chinese wants to shut down their Bitcoin mining operations which is why so many cloud mining companies are fleeing in droves to more Bitcoin-friendly locations.
imma pray and may Buddha bring peace to all of our troubled feelings and thoughts regarding this matter. 🙏 I'm heavily invested in crypterra. My gut feeling says it'll be back in the following days. No point in sweating over matters one doesn't have much control over. . .imo. With that being said, may every sentient being be free from suffering.😌
Also, thanks for showing the failing SSL certificate that crypterra had up. It was sadly signed by a non trusted Root CA (self-signed) which will never open in any browser. Also, who in the world would be so incompetent to actually self sign any cert and then have the audacity to actually use it on a public site!!!! Insane and incredibly sad.....
until now there is nothing, nothing at all, its air. We can talk for ages but if they do not care about customers...it is just a scam, no other word possible. If you not inform customers, no mail of them is working.
Hello Robert, Did Hashflare or Genenis Mining or CCG faced the same type of problem in their early days? Do you have any idea about their early life/starting phase?
From what I have read online, Hashflare had pretty bad problems when they got started. Of course, I cannot verify firsthand when Hashflare was going through their problems early on.
Well, I recently finally had enough to withdraw from Hashflare. It went smoothly. I forgot to go and check Crypterra. It's ridiculous about their SSL certificate. All they have to do is get a free one, or even a self-signed one.
They could have just made that 10 day pin update to get a few more “investors”. I do agree with you though. Once their twitter is down I will believe it.
Chinese New Yea as a possible excuse? A lot of tracked items I have seemed to literally stop this week with warnings to consumers about the new year 2 week holiday starting this week.
people want to blame everyone but the one that needs to take the blame I was in bitconnect I did my home work and still got burned I was looking at putting money in we'll what and see
They have just scammed away. But they bought a lot of time for themselves. It's not that difficult to "play with us" to get away. I mean srsly you get 1m$+ with a webpage like spacemining. You need some skills in Webprogramming (get a template somewhere like crypterra did and dont even change the icon lol) - then do a database connection and a javascript program to show people their "earnings". Ofc you need a strong hoster in the background to handle the website traffic. But finally... You do OVER 1 Million $ with a webpage-project. I can imagine some students did this and take their time to say goodbye before someone starts legal activity. Anyway I still hope but the chance is like 0%.
You don't understand why they put a pin code feature that prevented anyone from doing withdraws while they collected some more deposits before exiting for good? They wanted to see how much more they could squeeze out. It's not coincidence the site went back down before the 10 day auto lock ran out.
So far, Zozex looks legit. They seem like a small operation, maybe based in Russian or China. Can't tell really. That being said, I would still proceed with caution.
Lol, I don't mean to laugh but I cant understand why people try to attack and sue youtubers haha! I mean you can clearly tell they don't have inside information on these sites. They do there only little due diligence and then take their own gamble if you join them then that's what you chose to do its not like they sold you over the phone and pushed you into something you weren't sure about lol man I lost money too but Robert didn't transfer my ltc to their site for me lol Get a grip people this is why the government wants to regulate crypto (aka protect the dumb)
Ron, please stay away from that fake Crypterra Facebook page. That was put up by a scammer looking to take advantage of Crypterra customers desperation. Crypterra never had a Facebook page. They only have a Twitter and Google Plus presence. However, when they choose to communicate it's always on their Twitter page.
Reason why I didn't trust them in the first place. I've seen many scams that still have their social media for days without their site. It gives people a new link to a new hash site. They would give some reason for why they had to shut down and the coins will be sent to the new site but won't be able withdraw the coins for some reason.
This is not serious....I would not put a single cent in crypterra...There is only 3 real cloud mining companies,,,,Genesis, Hashflare and CCG....thats it...
Robert please, please stop to give them credit, come on a company how from start wasnt able to have or install a valide ssl certificate! Wtf! I wont put a cent in their template shit... they are zero for me ... scam or not already dont matter... so again please stop crypterra ... ✌
They actually *had* a valid SSL certificate, but 'someone' told Comodo to revoke it unilaterally! The stupid thing is that Crypterra never bothered to filter the masses of tech support requests to find the actual solutions I gave them.
david bunga exactly, cryptorovert os trying to hard being a scamexpert and explaining everything for everthing he had an answer, this is what I dislike, he is NOT an expert, and thats the area he is putting himself too much.
I don’t think you have to explain yourself to anyone who lost on this if Crypterra doesn’t come back.
People have to realise that investments are basically a form of gambling and rule 1 is not to invest money you cannot afford to lose. By the way, that’s also rules 2,3,4,etc.
I myself calculated I could afford to lose 8k so that’s what I invested. I really hope they come back but if not I'm taking responsibility for my own actions.
The buck stops with me.
Gambling is different from investing. Also, we can't be this complacent when there are scams like this. At least report them to the authorities is the least folks can do.
The definition of gamble.
To take a chance on; venture; risk.
If there is risk you are gambling by any other name.
If there's no risk why aren't we all driving Lambos?
Thanks, Robert. This is a very sincere presentation. I agree with you on every point.
If crypterra is a scam it is crypterra's moral & legal responsibility . It's not your fault unless you knowingly promoted the scam . I personally don't believe that you were "in the know".
I love how you spent like... 20 minutes explaining crypterra looked sketchy in january and told us to only invest money we would'nt mind to lose... only to have people mad at you right now... damn people...
new subb man great info... u remind of robert dniro :)
RELAX Robert, Crypterra is only installing new selfsigned SSL-sertificate. You need to give them time.
:D
You are kidding right? Do you still believe in the tooth fairy also?
@dtt255 RELAX and keep your mouth shut if you don't even understand what I'm talking about. I'm referring to Roberts "RELAX" comments in Twitter and his screenshots of Crypterra "installing "new SSL-sertificates (which were self signed). OK? So RELAX @ddt255!
HAHAHAHA Sorry your comments were very clear...like mud.
I think they toke in more clients then they should. Now they dont or cant communicate to the clients.
Crypto Robert u are a Great guy and CT take 4k but still u are Great guy!
Keep going bro
Great video Robert. Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this Crypterra situation. Any chance you could do a review on World mining. Not sure if they're legit or not
It does not take 1 minute to issue out a update tweet. They have gone. If they do come back then a lot of confidence will be lost in them.
rule 1, never invest more than you're prepared to lose - investment decisions are our own.
great job robert, keep on your good work. i hope they come back... i dont like losing money :-) and in crypterra i have a lot investet... i think not my best idea
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR VERY GOOD INFO VIDEOS
GO AHEAD MAN
if it goes its not your fault. I at least will accept Im responsible for my own actions. But bear in mind there are those who have been using the ref fees as network marketing ( which ı befriended one when ı said its risky at the moment he added people to crypterra ). youve lost money ıve lost money and some will lash out to you since your in easy access. it would be nice to get the site back up and running since ıve planed to pay some debts (small but debts all the same) from my earnings.
Kizil, thank you for your comment, I appreciate it. I too have some debts I am hoping to knock out. Looks like we have something in common. LOL!
there is new news about crypterra in twitter. hope its true.
"Since I do work for Crypterra I do not have any special insights into the specific issues affecting this downtime"
I think you mean "Since I do *NOT* work for Crypterra..."
Sorry, I fixed that typo. My bad. Thank you for catching that quickly. Another pair of eyes is always a good thing when you are proofreading! LOL!
You keep going back to the point of why would Crypterra do this and why would Crypterra do that if they were planning on scamming. While your point of them being a legitimate (even though they would be the worst legitimate cloud mining company ever) could be valid you are blinded by the other option. Every counterpoint to the evidence that you have of why they might not be a scam is easy....To make more money! They easily could have been the dumbest or smartest cloud mining scammers. If they've seen the playbook they may have taken steps to actively do things different to make more money as it's easy for us to identify the signs so it would be easy for the scammers to do things different to make it a more successful scam. On to the SSL Cert. and changing to a pin system. Of course you could be right but there's always another side to the coin. They could have been doing the pin change to have an excuse to stop paying people and allow them to receive more purchases. They may have intentionally removed the cert and or taken the site down to make it look like they were having problems with the servers as another excuse for not making payments and to come back online to receive more purchases before finally exit scamming. I think the likely situation is they changed to the pin so they could not pay people. I also think they did have legitimate problems with their cert which they were trying to fix in order to continue the scam and when they saw the price of Bitcoin tanking they said screw it and just ran. In my opinion I think it was never a real cloud mining business, there is no evidence that it ever was. Any of the points that you made about why would they do this or that if they weren't a real cloud mining company can easily be boiled down to either to make more money, they were really smart and ran a scam in a different way, or they were the dumbest scammers ever and didn't know what they were doing. Which is why they added one piece of the scam at a time. The only piece of evidence that I cannot counter is why they haven't removed the Twitter page so at least there is something to hang on to. I like your videos a lot Robert but try to see the other side of it when presenting frivolous evidence. You also said that you forgive anyone that didn't have faith in Crypterra when they came back online with the pin change. Again that proved nothing as they still weren't paying, so try to be more unbiased and see both sides of circumstantial evidence.....oh and I hate the television bar cuts too so good to hear you are removing them. Anyone blaming you for their investment is ridiculous.
Ryan, thank you for your excellent comments. I appreciate your balanced counterarguments. However, when it comes to looking at all sides of an issue, I like this old expression: "no matter how thin the pancake, there is always the other side."
Ryan and Robert thanks to both of you for pointing different view of a coin. To me personally both points is accepted and now the main point is which side/points we would love to believe. As an investor i would be very happy to see Crypterra coming back in action. Finger crossed and I'm still hopeful. Let see what's actually waiting for us.
You are luring noobs into scams for your personnel gain with affiliate bonuses !!! Why don't you invest in cryptos ???
Crypto Mania, I can ascertain that you have a moral issue with making money as an affiliate? I am providing a legitimate vetting service to my UA-cam followers. If they like my videos, find value in them, and make their own non-coerced decision to buy a mining contract, why should I not profit in some way from that?
Hi Robert, thanks for responding... We need to help new investors learn how to invest properly in crypto and expand the ecosystem in a proper way... Leading them off a cliff and to financial ruin is morally wrong - certainly you agree with that... Since ALL of you 'programs' have failed...
Thank you for your continued effort on this.
I like your analysis .... BTW I was thinking the same before I watched your video... I guess what you said is only logic according to the available details ... Good luck
Great video ...plse keep posting Robert !!!
Thanks for the video Robert! I’ve got my fingers crossed and still have hope crypterra will return. And it’s not even so much about the money for me, honestly. It’s the disappointment factor and trust issues that bother me.
There are back BABY!
Be patient. Wait till BTC Price goes up 10000$ again. Then come Crypterra come back..
if they come back only at 10k , that clearly proves they are not mining and doing some trading or arbitrage or some other wierd stuff with our money!
Let the countdown for the relaunch begin!
I'm just wondering when was the last referral you were paid on and if it's consistent with the shutdown of the website?
crypterra CEO / team should give a video explanation instead of some random youtuber.
Great Review Robert, Could you Review ElderHash. When I Check it is register in UK. But Most of web Visitors are from Rusia. Thanks Robert
Crypterra may not have shut down their Twitter, but they're sure as hell not using it.
LMAO ikr can't put it any better 💀🎯
I am only subscribed to two Crypto channels. The other guy is a day trader who got into crypto trading and shows off some of his strategies. You're one of the few crypto reviewers I've found with a modicum of integrity, and that's why you got my subscription. Don't listen to these whiny entitled millennials. That burden they so melodramatically espoused on about is theirs alone to carry. You just keep on rocking out these awesome informative videos and raking in those likes. ;D
Crypto Robert you the man! there will be always people complaing cry babies. keep doing what you do!
Hi robert some hope seeing in distnce ok by viewing yr video keeping fingers crossed,,,,tks
Hey Robert, Looks like you have a great influence over Crypterra :) They must have listened to you yesterday.. Thanks for your work to help the community.
I am not sure if I had THAT much influence over Crypterra but I hope my video helped. LOL!
Even if you had nothing to do with them returning, updating their web site and being super chatty on Twitter, I hearby give you 100% of the credit . Perhaps you had nothing to do with it, but your positive attitude sure helped A LOT ! 👍
Crypterra tweeted a new message saying that they were absent because of law changes in China and are moving out if the country in order to survive. Is that right?? Thus would proving what u were saying was right, that they are a small company just like Binance which moved out too but they probably had more money to play with.
Yes, that is correct. Crypterra was, is, a mainland Chinese Bitcoin operator. If you followed the Bitcoin news you should have picked in the news that Chinese wants to shut down their Bitcoin mining operations which is why so many cloud mining companies are fleeing in droves to more Bitcoin-friendly locations.
imma pray and may Buddha bring peace to all of our troubled feelings and thoughts regarding this matter. 🙏 I'm heavily invested in crypterra. My gut feeling says it'll be back in the following days. No point in sweating over matters one doesn't have much control over. . .imo. With that being said, may every sentient being be free from suffering.😌
Thank you for spreading some good Karma. : )
New tweets from them.... They are coming back soon
Also, thanks for showing the failing SSL certificate that crypterra had up. It was sadly signed by a non trusted Root CA (self-signed) which will never open in any browser. Also, who in the world would be so incompetent to actually self sign any cert and then have the audacity to actually use it on a public site!!!! Insane and incredibly sad.....
Given that it's been down for a long time....hardly working is the right wording lol
until now there is nothing, nothing at all, its air. We can talk for ages but if they do not care about customers...it is just a scam, no other word possible. If you not inform customers, no mail of them is working.
Robert, love the videos, however I really don't like the transition beeps. Can you please consider doing something else in the future.
OK, no problem. Those beeps were kind of experimental anyone. Thanks for your input.
I appreciate all your hard work on this channel.
Hello Robert, Did Hashflare or Genenis Mining or CCG faced the same type of problem in their early days? Do you have any idea about their early life/starting phase?
From what I have read online, Hashflare had pretty bad problems when they got started. Of course, I cannot verify firsthand when Hashflare was going through their problems early on.
CryptoRobert Thanks
Well, I recently finally had enough to withdraw from Hashflare. It went smoothly. I forgot to go and check Crypterra. It's ridiculous about their SSL certificate. All they have to do is get a free one, or even a self-signed one.
I AM YOUR FANS ONLY I WHANT YOU BE HAPPY THAT'S ALL
BEST REGARD
look, Crypterra wants to come back. there is now a countdown. only 1 day and 14 hours. very nice :)
They could have just made that 10 day pin update to get a few more “investors”. I do agree with you though. Once their twitter is down I will believe it.
Chinese New Yea as a possible excuse?
A lot of tracked items I have seemed to literally stop this week with warnings to consumers about the new year 2 week holiday starting this week.
I looked into the Chinese New Year theory and it turns out that Chinese New Year is February 16th. LOL!
people want to blame everyone but the one that needs to take the blame
I was in bitconnect I did my home work and still got burned
I was looking at putting money in
we'll what and see
Great video...Keep on the good job, sir!
Marinos Palamaris. Yes, thank you
If they give me back my money then they are not scam
Sir can you review about iq option ?
Good Job Robert.
Bitconnect website also still up, they don't follow the scam playbook. Hahaha
Hey genius, the Crypterra website is back up and running, they did not exit scam.
They have just scammed away. But they bought a lot of time for themselves. It's not that difficult to "play with us" to get away. I mean srsly you get 1m$+ with a webpage like spacemining. You need some skills in Webprogramming (get a template somewhere like crypterra did and dont even change the icon lol) - then do a database connection and a javascript program to show people their "earnings". Ofc you need a strong hoster in the background to handle the website traffic. But finally... You do OVER 1 Million $ with a webpage-project.
I can imagine some students did this and take their time to say goodbye before someone starts legal activity.
Anyway I still hope but the chance is like 0%.
Crypterra: "Surprise MothaF#&?@!"
You don't understand why they put a pin code feature that prevented anyone from doing withdraws while they collected some more deposits before exiting for good? They wanted to see how much more they could squeeze out. It's not coincidence the site went back down before the 10 day auto lock ran out.
Hi Robert, like your videos, Cane you please check up on (world mining)? thank you.
Hi
Do you think Vosex is another Scame mining site 😰😰
So far, Zozex looks legit. They seem like a small operation, maybe based in Russian or China. Can't tell really. That being said, I would still proceed with caution.
scam...people will sue you
Really? I would really hate to see people waste more of their hard earned money on a frivolous lawsuit. Not in the least bit concerned however.
You must be a bitconnect victim 😂😂😂😂
Lol, I don't mean to laugh but I cant understand why people try to attack and sue youtubers haha! I mean you can clearly tell they don't have inside information on these sites. They do there only little due diligence and then take their own gamble if you join them then that's what you chose to do its not like they sold you over the phone and pushed you into something you weren't sure about lol man I lost money too but Robert didn't transfer my ltc to their site for me lol Get a grip people this is why the government wants to regulate crypto (aka protect the dumb)
30 minutes of videos giving SCAMs air time. LOL
Aren't they offering refunds on facebook Crypterra support?
Ron, please stay away from that fake Crypterra Facebook page. That was put up by a scammer looking to take advantage of Crypterra customers desperation. Crypterra never had a Facebook page. They only have a Twitter and Google Plus presence. However, when they choose to communicate it's always on their Twitter page.
Told you this is a scam. Only you believe is this.
Reason why I didn't trust them in the first place. I've seen many scams that still have their social media for days without their site. It gives people a new link to a new hash site. They would give some reason for why they had to shut down and the coins will be sent to the new site but won't be able withdraw the coins for some reason.
This is not serious....I would not put a single cent in crypterra...There is only 3 real cloud mining companies,,,,Genesis, Hashflare and CCG....thats it...
Another one bites the dust...
Dude!
It's a SCAM.
What do you take us for? Mugs?
Penny stock promotion technique to draw in new customers.
"Penny stock promotion?" I am afraid I am not following you.
Probably not the best analogy. I guess Crypterra was releasing announcements over an extended period as basic advertising/promotion.
Robert please, please stop to give them credit, come on a company how from start wasnt able to have or install a valide ssl certificate! Wtf! I wont put a cent in their template shit... they are zero for me ... scam or not already dont matter... so again please stop crypterra ... ✌
They actually *had* a valid SSL certificate, but 'someone' told Comodo to revoke it unilaterally! The stupid thing is that Crypterra never bothered to filter the masses of tech support requests to find the actual solutions I gave them.
lol you still don't know what a SCAM is !!
scammer doesn't have to follow your so called PLAYBOOK. they are gone !
david bunga exactly, cryptorovert os trying to hard being a scamexpert and explaining everything for everthing he had an answer, this is what I dislike, he is NOT an expert, and thats the area he is putting himself too much.