sorry for being mia!!! this was originally supposed to be one video but it ballooned like crazy lol so it’s gna be broken up!! my more general thoughts outside of her books are gonna be in the later parts but in the meantime hope u enjoyy 🫡 TWITCH: www.twitch.tv/caseyaonso GOODREADS: www.goodreads.com/user/show/64126678-casey LETTERBOXD: letterboxd.com/caseyaonso/ DISCORD: discord.gg/Y8rXmj8t4x TWITTER: twitter.com/caseyaonso INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/caseyaonso SECOND CHANNEL: ua-cam.com/channels/vt-IZTB3T23ld-kTnTJjmw.html TIK TOK: www.tiktok.com/Caseyaonso?fromUrl=%2FCaseyaonso&lang=en
(no offence to anyone who likes these books) These fake deep, corny romances are probably some of the worst offenders I have seen in the modern romance genre. At least our friends on wattpad gave it to us for free.
@@kenziemartin5358 yeah I forgot to correct myself. I saw an excerpt of the convo directly before the accident and the poster said the wife died in the accident and I thought that was the case. This is still insane tho lol
This. I don’t have a problem with the dark romance genre even it does the same thing because dark romance authors generally include trigger warnings, etc. A lot of survivors also like to read dark romance because it gives them an opportunity to explore a scenario they had no control in where they have the ability to close the book. My problem with Colleen is that her books read as dark romances but are packaged as regular romances with no trigger warnings. I suspect this is because trigger warnings would ruin her “plot twists”, which generally rely on trauma. I got a copy of Verity because it was on sale and when I made a TikTok saying I was going to read it, a friend DM’d to let me know it had one of my triggers in it. My trigger is more important than your plot twist, thank you. 😒
@@sahieBingo - that's my problem too. I love reading ambiguous/gray/dark stories in general, including romance. However, the key difference is that I go into the story knowing that it is of that sort, and that it isn't to be glorified or seen as a positive thing in the real world, no matter how it might be presented in the narrative. It's the branding of this content as wholesome, normal romance when it's not, that is my problem.
I thought she was a light romance writer and always stayed away from her books. If her books are more towards dark romance reads i will definitely give them a try 😍
Authors like Colleen Hoover *want* to write fetish erotica, but have to wrap it in elaborate romance packaging in order for it to be marketable to mainstream audiences. Which is how you end up with super cringey, abusive love interests and zero due-diligence with what they're publishing, because it SELLS.
As someone who writes kink into her books as well as being in the scene herself, I’d rather people like Colleen not touch the topic. EL James did enough damage as it is!
Yeah its odd. I don't necessarily mind dark toxic stories -- thats a moral neutral thing to write or read in my opinion. Whats weird, I think, is pretending the book isnt dark and toxic so you can have your take and eat it too
I've literally been thinking that if she just categorized her books as taboo/kink she wouldn't be getting half as much backlash. Lol and taboo/kink had been on a rise so she would still get a lot of readers.
See that’s what I want to know is why don’t some of these authors just write erotica / fetish content where for example you can portray consensual bdsm or something instead of like an abusive relationship And the thing is while it may not be on the bestsellers list, there are honestly big niche fandoms for that content
my friends raved about CH so i bought ugly love but it dropped in a pool and never bothered to get a replacement copy and girl im so happy that pool saved me 😭
So I listened to the audiobook for Ugly Love and finished it while flying over the ocean from Scotland to New York. Everyone on this plane was sleeping while I was internally screaming my head off because I've never been so frustrated by a book before in my life. I absolutely HATE this book.
I know this is the least of this book's issues, but what is CH's writing style? There's so much redundancy and Miles keeps talking in threes like he's trying to summon Beetlejuice.
Every time I see a youtuber criticizing Colleen Hoover I can't help but think about the time my mom walked out of a chemo appointment with a tiny pink sticky note with book recommendations from her nurse and one of them was a Colleen Hoover book. Like someone recommended Colleen Hoover to my mom during _cancer treatment._ I'm convinced they were trying to kill her faster. (btw my mom is fine LOL she's in remission)
I'm so happy that your mom is in remission! Also, adding as someone who dealt with nurses for 3 years working at a nursing home, and as someone who did 1 year of nursing school before I decided that I loathed it, a lot of nurses are half brain dead. 😂 They're often amazing, super intelligent people who put up with a lot for too little, but the other half are those popular people whose first completed book was The Great Gatsby in 10th grade literature class, and they only comprehended it because the entire class spent the two months discussing the content lol. Still good at their job, but weren't the most analytical of students in the bunch.
But dark romance should be advertised as such. Like I absolutely adore problematic and toxic dynamics and like to read them but first of all there should be some substance, you can't expect some specific trope to carry your entire book. And second of all, it should not be shown as everyday hallmark movie romance. Like if your book is unhinged, TELL US. Why can't these people have to shoot so wide in order to sell.
@@vaishnavisingh9244literally like there is something interesting about dark stories with dark themes but an incest story written and marketed as a hallmark romcom is like. 🤨 and also just eh
'She has a right to be happy - she's not the one who died' has the same energy as when my brother was 6 and wrote a story about how Stanley the dog was sad because he got hit by a car.
I've read better smut on wattpad back in like 2013 😂 this is like something written by a preteen who discovered wattpad . Ive read masterpieces on Ao3 idk why Colleen is so popular but its clearly locals who had no cringe fanfic phase reading her books
My sister has November 9 and i tried to read it but then the line "Your mother left me because I slept with her best friend. My personality had nothing to do with it" came.
Kinda same. I would read the books if I didn't have to pay for it just to have first hand experience of the books (because shitting on books you've read feels far better imo) but till now, I"ve watched and will continue to watch other people talk about them.
@@Saphia_you can read a decent chunk of excepts. I wish I did because I bought "This ends with us" and I stopped on like page 30 when the main character described the male dudes muscles as something along the lines of " he was muscular but not flexing. His shirt was just too tight that his muscles couldn't help but flex" (note not actual Hoover quote but similar vibes to when I stopped reading). It's very wattpadd fantasy smut but justified abuse.
@@AnonYmous-en7op I'll have to search for the excerpts then. On the other hand, if you didn't say that that wasn't an actual quote, I would have no trouble believing that it was.
I’m a teacher and the amount of coworkers who rant and rave about CH makes my fake smile start to twitch lmaooo last year they had a book club with one of her books and I was like mmmmm yeah I’m good thank you sweet ladies !!! 👀👀😂
as a librarian this is the catharsis I've been waiting for. every day a 15 year old girl who has clearly never visited a library before shows up and asks where the colleen hoover books are. every time I want to lead them by the hand and show them the magical world of terry pratchett
Colleen's career boom confirms my suspicion that Booktok has zero taste in actually good content. The bar for a romance series is so low and somehow November 9 and It Ends with Us was picked as top tiers by them, its actual insanity. And not to mention WHY THE HELL DO THESE PEOPLE LIKE THESE MEN? As a guy, it feels like a weird mix of fetishizing the abuse that people go through and are subjected to while also using trauma as a get out of jail free card for empathy. If I could use my trauma as a free pass, I'd probably own an entire house, and im paid for living in it. Actually as im reading this, this reminded me of the couple months where people had this obsession over OJ and Jeffery Dahmer and it was actually disgusting.
it ends with us is such trash--- buttt, i still gave it 4.5 stars for pure enjoyment. i could not put that sh*t down. she certainly knows how to write an engaging book, which is so impressive considering how much they lack in substance- and also dangerous b/c its glorifying/normalizing abuse and mistreatment. ive read 3 of her books so can confirm this is just how she writes. it makes sense tho for her to be so popular, in a way, since simpler content will be understood by and attract the most amount of people
And the shitty part is, there are so many good romance novels out there that it's practically impossible to NOT hit a few of them. I am a strict fantasy/Sci-fi reader but some books just slip in through, and I couldn't help but enjoy them! I just physically cringe when people treat CoHo books like the greatest since Shakespeare.
OMG I'm 59, and your review just made me laugh out loud SO many times. It even made me think of this one..... "Clearest blue eyes I've ever seen..." instantly made me think she must only have seen guys who are high or have pink eye!!!! Thanks for making my day. I have never read this author, don't know if it's for my age group, but if I do read, I will now hear your voice and laugh!! Thanks for making my day!!!
Actually, she used to be a social worker before becoming a writer, so we could assume that she knows a thing or two about abuse. Which makes whatever she writes in her books that much worse.
I would've been that one student who my mom would've been like "So that girl Rachel is pregnant. What's up with that?" And I would've been "Mom, I dunno. I'm not in that crowd!" And then I would've found out everything after graduating.
Now THAT would be an actually interesting book! The group chats of the schools all these weird freaky romance protags go to. I’d pay good money to read that.
My favourite tiktok comment was a person (who obviously was a fan of dark academia/classics) asking for recommendations, someone said "CoHo" and the creator responded "recommending CoHo is a crime, AND the punishment in one. I would rather read my toilet paper."
@@jacquelinelugo5518She also 100% percent a boy mom. With the way she glorifies the toxic men and slutshame the women in her books and constantly pitting them against other women
funny how it both insults the taste and recommends better books in just one sentence. also..if theyre looking for classics..why suggest coho..? only thing i find classic is coho's favoritism and excusing of toxic men in every one of her books. i just see it and think 'classic coho' because theres no way someones gonna fall in love with a guy that burnt her house down with her in it.
as a teenager, im so glad that most of my peers agree that coho is downright horrendous and nothing compared to actual good literature or even just moderately good literature.
@@zarinfatehi1896 For romance, Rebecca Jenshak writes cute stories. I particularly liked her Wallflowers series. Campus Nights is pretty good as well, and that's earlier in the timeline than Wallflowers.
Let me tell you. I was that teenager. I thought that she is amazing and that her books are mind blowing. Until I got a reality check and realized I am learning literally nothing from it. Shifted to reading actual literature and the best decision I made.
My best summary for CoHo after reading some of her books is: Men with no spine, women hating each other for no reason and romanticised toxic behaviors.
You know what I’m glad Colleen Hoover exists in a way. If the line “we laugh at our sons big balls” can get you an entire shelf at a bookstore, then I too can get a shelf at a bookstore.
Why are the characters constantly repeating words “Laugh, Laugh, Laugh,” “silence,silence, silence.” “Rachel, Rachel, Rachel.” We get it bro trust me. 💀
The fact that Hoover wrote an entire book based on her mother's abuse she faced at the hands of her husband, and basically profited off of it, just makes me feel uneasy. There's also her having an entire feud with a teenager, just because he didn't like her books.
@@athenajaxon2397 lmao Caleb was the reason I was introduced to CH so when she became massively popular, I just knew her as that gross vindictive woman that glorifies abuse and it seems I didn't need to know anything else....
I get writing about it, because that's a very healthy and helpful way of expressing trauma. Making it into something that could turn around and be a positive thing, like a paycheck, isn't, at least in my mind, that big of an ick. It's a way of guaranteeing her financial independence, which is a seriously respectable goal, especially for us ladies. Having to depend on a man, is why so many women stay in abusive relationships in the first place. She could also(idk if she has, and given how much money she has undoubtedly made from her spike in popularity), donate to women and children's shelters. HOWEVER. I don't understand why she keeps making stories about abusive, manipulative men and glorifies it. Writing one book where a character subjects themself to abuse, because of insecurities, depression, and whatever else, to show how often normal the low bar is for a good partner, and how often we sell ourselves short in the face of what we actually deserve, is one thing. It's a way of looking at your past self, or her mother's self, in her case, and empathizing with the victim. But to continually write about men who are vindictive and selfish, abusive, and all around toxic waste, romanticize them all the way through the book, creating relationships built on deceit and gross manipulations of emotions and situations, is a complete disregard for every good thing that she tried to bring awareness to in It Ends With Us. How am I, your reader, supposed to hate THIS abusive man but not THAT abusive man? Because one was written to be a bad person but the other is just a bad person on accident? That's my issue with it.
I got her e-book and halfway reading I already feel like this isn't gonna end well (I'm talking 'bout It Ends With Us). Now I'm thinking whether to finish the book (to make my money worth, LOL) or to let it sit there on my Kobo. ~~~
19:50 When you were taking about this scene, it made me think about that one scene in _After Ever Happy_ when Hardin gave a homeless man (Joe) his scarf in front of Tessa, as a redeeming quality. This gave me such a big realization, lol.
Many of Hoover's male leads, most notably Jeremy from Verity and Ben from November 9, are so toxic, yet they're presented as charming. While Ryle from It Ends With Us is intentionally written to be abusive, Lily still lets him play a major role in their daughter's life following their divorce.
no but even on my first read through i felt very. icky. about colleen’s writing 😭 within like minutes of first meeting ryle, lily really does tell this man who’s been bashing a plastic chair, the building she lives in, you know, uhm! okay!
@@no-gc3lo the "go pee" line after sex that Casey didnt read outloud had me crying from laughter wtf how do people like love this writing im a fan of badly written tv but like...ik its bad and i laugh at it
@@levilore_7126lmao I couldn't imagine someone telling me to "go pee," so I wouldn't risk a UTI, and that's supposed to be indicative that they actually do care for me and my wellbeing. In a LOVE story???! 😂😂
When she said that, I actually heard it in my mind to the tune of Sk8ter Boi: “He was a creep, she was in heat Can I make it any more obvious?” And now I'm scared I'm going to have this as a twisted earworm 😂
As a literature enthusiast, I immediately recommended this book to a friend of mine, after i finished reading it. Not because I liked it, but I wanted my friend to go through the lows, to appreciate the highs. Because that‘s what it was like for me. After reading Colleen's garbage of a book, it gave me a new perspective on life and made me appreciate all the good literature I had read before.
The bad thing about finding this video now, is that the other parts aren’t out yet for me to binge. The good part is that I have a whole new CHANNEL to binge!!
12:32 “take your sandwiches with you” legitimately makes me cackle. it’s such a good example of coho’s accidental humor. she’s good at genres she doesn’t mean to write, and most of her books are horror.
I have not personally read a Colleen Hoover book but I have developed a masochistic obsession with watching other people rag on them. From this I have learned that in at least two of her books there’s a scene where a couple have rough piv sex while the female character is newly postpartum. I know we’re not supposed to kink shame but that is such a weirdly specific and off-putting scenario. Why dear god why?
I am of the opinion that anyone who likes her books have just never read fanfiction. That's where we should be getting our kinks and unhealthy relationship fantasies in. Openly admitting to being a Coleen Hoover stan is basically the same as being horny on main.
Agreed. It’s like 50 Shades of Grey selling 100 million copies… Thanks, now I know that millions of Boomers whacked off to that drivel. Did it add anything to my life, apart from disgust?
Fun fact I have a mutual friend that reads A LOT, like multiple books a week. And I was in a reading slump and wanted to get back to reading regularly. So I asked her if she had any recs. And she recommended Verity. So I bought Verity thinking it was going to be this great gripping book that was going to make me appreciate literature again. I had never heard of Colleen Hoover or verity. Imagine my surprise 🤣
one of her more violent and worst books was her just writing to let off steam, but her fans liked it online, so she published it without editing it at all
Same. The only time I've enjoyed anything close to a dark romance was a fanfic where the main couple got progressively more unhinged and into murdering/getting murdered by each other because of time loops. If anyone can recommend me something good I'd love to read it though
honestly the old man who operated the elevator's story about being in love with a married woman who couldnt leave her husband due to the time they were in sounds infinitely more interesting than whatever tf this was. why didn't she just write that story? lmao
This video is so validating. I first picked up a Colleen Hoover novel two years ago amidst all the hype on social media and from friends. I was curious what all the noise was about. Turns out I hated it. I couldn’t even make it past the first few pages of IEWU. I can’t fathom how anyone else can.
someone once said "coho books are for people that don't read" and i couldn't agree more - like, i'm glad people are getting into reading, but please fucking branch out and realize how bad these are. like there are so many amazing books out there and you as a reader deserve better than this schlock. loved this video and i'm so stoked for the next parts.
BookTok has made me realize all the dark and taboo stuff people are into. Which whatever, to each their own, but when it’s marketed as regular romance and becomes popular, and I see young girls reading it and liking these male protagonists, I worry about how they’ll view their own relationships and what they may allow because they’re learning it’s romantic not abusive
Yeah like I hate her so much bc I feel like her books are actually harmful. Most sa victims were assaulted by someone they knew and trusted like a friend or boyfriend. I also saw a young girls comment once that said "Ben wasn't abusive he was literally traumatized! It's not his fault" like yeah that's what victims think about their boyfriends before they get victimized. I have no hate towards her fans because they are mostly teenagers and are naive but colleen as a 43yo woman should fucking know better than serving rape and abuse to her teenage girl audience on a sexy pink platter
It’s just twilight 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever the fuck. Books have been brainwashing children for forever. The whole point of the printing press was mass psychosis and brainwashing via religion. Why you think it would be used for anything else in the current era, I do not understand… The same with every popular romance book there is… all of it is marketed as being feminist… But in reality underneath the shallow veneer, it’s incredibly sexiest, abusive, and manipulative.
Storytime: a couple months ago, I was in the Walmart book section with one of my friends, just looking for a new book to read. We started talking about how it felt like half of all the books in the store were Colleen Hoover. A few minutes later, two separate sets of mother daughter duos came to look specifically at the Colleen Hoover section. They started talking about CH and one of them said that she and her daughter had both read ALMOST EVERY Colleen Hoover book and there was only ONE they didn't like. My friend and I just kind of looked at each other and practically ran away. They wouldn't stop talking about how well-written her books were. We simply couldn't handle it
I just wanna say, I almost never watch book videos on UA-cam, and randomly decided to watch this one, but the way you talk and carry your stories so smoothly is just really nice to listen too and my adhd brain can follow it well which is hard to come by. you just got a subscriber from that
Girl i'm honestly kinda sad cause I was really proud of the hometown girlies on fb for suddenly being so into reading but to find out this... is what they're reading? um
I thank god every day that when these books were gaining prominence on TikTok, I got two concussions that left me unable to read & look at screens for 8 months!
I would be so ripped and swole if I couldn't read or watch my YT or movies for almost a year lmao. Maybe I need to get a concussion so I can finally stick to my workout routine lol. Glad you're ok, though! That sounds scary.
@@rachel5399 I’d tell you that’s a good plan, but they don’t even let you work out. Months of marathon training went down the drain for me. I went on silly little mental health walks and slept. 10/10 would not recommend.
I've always liked you and I was so invested in your take about CoHo coz I also am creeped out by her writing then suddenly A RED VELVET SONG SHOW UP. I love you even more lol
2:18 I got accepted and I haven't read a single book of hers. I heard about it from this video, watched part 2, asked to join and used one of the pt2 books as my "favorite" and got in super quick. Idk why they wouldve denied you lmao
It’s actually such a mystery how her ‘romance’ books have gained such popularity considering it borderlines toxicity and abuse, the only book of hers that I can stomach as the genre it was marketed and portrayed was verity. All the illicit, intimate relationships in there made me feel as icky as her other books, but at least it didn’t feel like it was being past off as a romantic, aspirational relationship. I think she just needs to focus on thrillers, all her romance novels just come off as glittery, glorified abuse
Honestly I think people are just super h0rnballs and found the romance / dark psyche plot as the perfect excuse to talk about a book that they found sexy. A lot of her work is literally long ass sex scenes with a bit of drama and crazy.
@@ihatemickiegee yeah and the extra epilogue in which... SPOILERS!!!!!!!! the dude kills ANOTHER woman and our protagonist is like "oh, fuck, he is 2 for 2 now. And basically raped me. Naaaah, he is doing it to protect us." feels like she is messing with her fans at this point.
I first heard about CH back in 2015 when she announced “It ends with us” (I liked her back then but in my defense I was also going through my wattpad era) It’s crazy for me that she suddenly jumped in popularity after all this years, with that specific book, it’s like seeing you favorite wattpad writer from when you were 15 becoming popular but now you’re an adult and her popularity is a constant remainder of how cringe you were
Girl this is me except I went from reading this woman’s mid Harry Potter fanfiction (that had incest in it) and then a few years later she published a super successful book series (that also had incest in it) and that woman was Cassandra fucking Clare. The Mortal Instruments is a prolifically popular YA series. There’s a movie. A TV show. There’s like 100 books in that series. She haunts me
Years ago I really liked her books (even though those I liked are not those mostly critized) and I‘m wondering if I just read some of her better books or if I just was a 14 year old who was used to Wattpad romances
love how you compared that one miles inner monologue to you tryna talk abt a red velvet song bc i too, let red velvet invade me. i soak up red velvet songs like a sponge. i pluck them out of the air and swallow them
I stumbled upon your video and just wanna say you do such a great job articulating your thoughts! I started reading It Ends With Us since it was marked as a romance book, halfway in I had to stop reading. As a DV survivor, i wish she did a better job at the analogy she writes or give a trigger warning beforehand. I don’t understand how known she is about writing romance books but there’s a boundary between writing love stories and a story of a woman who was being abused by someone she loved.
@@famemosterrrrr Lmao, didn't the Male Lead stalked the protagonist and was the one who set fire to her home, or am I tripping? Also the one in which the Male Lead had an affair with his dead brother's wife because "they both needed it", and the one in which the protagonist is made to applogize for breaking his heart??
& juice! 😂 I watched another commentary/read-along thing on YT and the amount of dry, undesirable, and unnecessary sentences about juice. Literally, it was like: "I open the fridge and see juice. I decide I want some juice, even if it's someone else's juice. The juice is cranberry. That's my favorite juice. I grab a cup for the juice. I pour the juice. The juice is delicious." It's so 2nd grade coed and I seriously don't know how her publisher didn't fix that repetitive nonsense.
I was just curious about Colleen Hoover's world as I know she's successful but do not intend to read her books and this video was just fantastic, I laughed so hard, thank you. can't wait for the next one about CoHo
Definitely people who didn't get into fanfics or Wattpad back when they were teens. I had my very huge and unhealthy helping of toxic and some abusive relationships from Wattpad and I would never pick these books up (ehh.. if I didn't want to hate read them).
@@Saphia_ That could partly be the reason but I've never had a fanfiction phase and I don't see myself ever being attracted to Hoover's books. So there must be some other reason too 🤔 I also thought maybe the sex scenes are great or the female character "saves" the male character but that does not seem to be it
Because people have different tastes in books. I'm just glad people nowadays are still reading considering all the technology coming about and just nearing taking over. People will always have different tastes just like people like modern homes and some don't.
@@willowx6364 Sure, but there are so many people that love her books so there must be something about her books that we as a society or as humans are very generally attracted to and I wonder what that is :) Her books must have something in or about them that a lot of us seek for or want
@@willowx6364the idea that people, especially young ones, just aren't reading these days bc of technology is just plain wrong. Some may prefer ebooks, audiobooks, or other methods instead of the traditional physical copies, but that's still reading. Just like we prefer sending e-mails instead of physical letters for example. We're still communicating, just in a different format. And *I don't think impressionable teens reading books with toxic depictions of relationships that could potentially lead them to also replicate those dynamics in the future should be considered a win just bc "oh well, at least they're reading instead being on their phones* all day". *No one is arguing that ppl have different tastes* nor saying that teens should be reading 'Pride & Prejudice' instead. Just that authors of these types of books should be a bit more mindful of what they write when their books reach people outside of their original target audience. Like teens. A small warning in the beginning or end of the book could be helpful. But from what I've seen CoHo and her stans just shut down any valid criticism and label it as ppl 'hating' what young women like which, while a valid point, it's not always the case.
I'm a librarian and these books were trending HARD about 4 months ago. We couldn't keep them on our shelves. Now it seems like everyone has moved on to Fredia MacFadden books. Also I had no idea what type of books CoHo wrote (though it was just drama) so it just made me feel a bit ashamed for letting a 13 year old check it out.
I am so thankful for creators like Casey, Kennie, Amanda and Alex who are there to consume terrible media and tell me about it so that I don’t have to. Thank you for your service. 🏅
i was so baffled when i actually read colleen hoover because it was like an episode story... i literally looked up whether there were two colleen hoovers because i couldnt believe this was the kind of storytelling and writing people were hyping up
COVID was still going strong, A lot of people had been stuck inside. A lot of people lost their jobs, lost their family... I honestly think she got so popular when she did because people NEEDED mindless romance that was simple to read. Full of toxicity, drama, and pop-culture references. I truly believe people wanted/craved simplicity and Colleen Hoover books fulfilled that. Her books are also largely printed - so you can read an entire book in a day- or a week - and feel really good about yourself for "reading an entire book".
CoHo’s books are poorly edited and marketed horror books, I’m more convinced with each new review I watch. A few tweaks and we could have a brilliant horror novel. Instead she markets abuse as dark romance.
her entire writing and plots centering around trauma eventually make you desensitized to it (i certainly was) and then you see how much the characters lack actual substance. the emotions these books incite in people largely just come from the fact that the plot contains sensitive and triggering topics, and you can't criticize her for this because "it's a real issue".
Okay I’m not really on TikTok and I’d never heard of this author, so I was like “people just like being haters, I bet it’s not THAT bad.” Oh. My. God. When you got to the balls part with the dramatic music playing in the background, I laughed so hard I cried.
sorry for being mia!!! this was originally supposed to be one video but it ballooned like crazy lol so it’s gna be broken up!! my more general thoughts outside of her books are gonna be in the later parts but in the meantime hope u enjoyy 🫡
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I LOVE SNAP SNAP BY RED VELVET. HELP!!! I LOVE RED VELVET LOLLL I loved that bit
Bitch we love you
“You made fun of your sons big balls and then he died “ is a WILD fucking sentence
Finally a new line to take the space left my Secret Life of the American Teenager's "My dad died because I had amazing sex!"
*by
this had me fucking cackling
Miles had NO priorities at all.
I’d choose death too if my parents talked about my 🏉🏉
"he's a creep, she's in heat" - you summed up every coho book in one sentence
he's just a creep
she's just in heat
can i make it any more obvious?
@@amyhughes2149
But he's a creep, I'm in my heat
what the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
@amyhughes2149
Alright, already
He's just a creep
Alright, already
She's just in heat
Even if things get heavy
We'll all float on
@@gabeharris926 Immodest Mouse
@@gabeharris926even if our son's balls get heavy
we'll all float on (alright)
Someone once said Colleen Hoover books are for people who never had a wattpad phase and I can’t stop thinking about it
As someone who had a wattpad phase this is so accurate it hurts 😭
(no offence to anyone who likes these books) These fake deep, corny romances are probably some of the worst offenders I have seen in the modern romance genre. At least our friends on wattpad gave it to us for free.
Whoever said this successfully put my exact thoughts into words
I used to love Wattpad-style writings but now anytime I see it I cringe. Like there's much better stuff out there. (Tumblr/AO3)
AND YOU JUST KNOW THAT MILES IS ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF ONE DIRECTION OR BTS
"they laughed at this child's balls and then the child died'' got me fucking cackling it's insane
This is the first time I've read such a sentence wtf 😭
I knew the wife was killed of to "further" the man "character's" "development", but the baby too?!
@@dragonize9826she didn’t die…. Their child did, but not her… if we’re talking about Ugly Love. Which I’m assuming we are.
@@kenziemartin5358 yeah I forgot to correct myself. I saw an excerpt of the convo directly before the accident and the poster said the wife died in the accident and I thought that was the case. This is still insane tho lol
What the actual fuck 😂
“No. Bad. Bad.” DESTROYED me. I literally had to stop what I was doing I was laughing so hard
that is quite literally a sentence that would come out of a toddler if you tried to give them a food they don't want
11:00
colleen hoover's books read as though she should have gone to therapy, but instead she opted to create a community that glorifies actual abuse
This.
I don’t have a problem with the dark romance genre even it does the same thing because dark romance authors generally include trigger warnings, etc.
A lot of survivors also like to read dark romance because it gives them an opportunity to explore a scenario they had no control in where they have the ability to close the book.
My problem with Colleen is that her books read as dark romances but are packaged as regular romances with no trigger warnings. I suspect this is because trigger warnings would ruin her “plot twists”, which generally rely on trauma.
I got a copy of Verity because it was on sale and when I made a TikTok saying I was going to read it, a friend DM’d to let me know it had one of my triggers in it.
My trigger is more important than your plot twist, thank you. 😒
hahahah this is so funny, you are spot on
@@sahieBingo - that's my problem too. I love reading ambiguous/gray/dark stories in general, including romance. However, the key difference is that I go into the story knowing that it is of that sort, and that it isn't to be glorified or seen as a positive thing in the real world, no matter how it might be presented in the narrative. It's the branding of this content as wholesome, normal romance when it's not, that is my problem.
She was a SOCIAL WORKER before being a full-time author. That makes it so much worse ☠️
I thought she was a light romance writer and always stayed away from her books. If her books are more towards dark romance reads i will definitely give them a try 😍
Authors like Colleen Hoover *want* to write fetish erotica, but have to wrap it in elaborate romance packaging in order for it to be marketable to mainstream audiences. Which is how you end up with super cringey, abusive love interests and zero due-diligence with what they're publishing, because it SELLS.
As someone who writes kink into her books as well as being in the scene herself, I’d rather people like Colleen not touch the topic. EL James did enough damage as it is!
Yeah its odd. I don't necessarily mind dark toxic stories -- thats a moral neutral thing to write or read in my opinion. Whats weird, I think, is pretending the book isnt dark and toxic so you can have your take and eat it too
My bestie explained the story in one of her books and it wasn’t that bad- it could be really awful but it wasn’t
I've literally been thinking that if she just categorized her books as taboo/kink she wouldn't be getting half as much backlash. Lol and taboo/kink had been on a rise so she would still get a lot of readers.
See that’s what I want to know is why don’t some of these authors just write erotica / fetish content where for example you can portray consensual bdsm or something instead of like an abusive relationship
And the thing is while it may not be on the bestsellers list, there are honestly big niche fandoms for that content
my friends raved about CH so i bought ugly love but it dropped in a pool and never bothered to get a replacement copy and girl im so happy that pool saved me 😭
ur copy having the same fate as the big ball boy HELPFIWOXJ
@@caseyaonso4270 like OKAYYY twin 😍
@@caseyaonso4270NOT THE BIG BALL BOY
No one has looked out for your future more than that pool
@@caseyaonso4270 AHHH NOOOOO LMFAO
So I listened to the audiobook for Ugly Love and finished it while flying over the ocean from Scotland to New York. Everyone on this plane was sleeping while I was internally screaming my head off because I've never been so frustrated by a book before in my life. I absolutely HATE this book.
I got the exact same feeling listening to the book 77 Shadow Street by Dean Koontz. Internally screaming. 😅😩
Sameeeeeeeeeeeee … I did throw the book 8 times with frustration it was soo bad
Somehow I imagine her books are worse being read out loud to you 😭
I know this is the least of this book's issues, but what is CH's writing style? There's so much redundancy and Miles keeps talking in threes like he's trying to summon Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice is crazy 😭💀
😂😂😂😂😂
Everything I’ve learned about this women has been against my will
Same
Please, I don't even read romance, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TIKTOK! Why am I cursed?
Same lmao
Oh my God, this.
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Every time I see a youtuber criticizing Colleen Hoover I can't help but think about the time my mom walked out of a chemo appointment with a tiny pink sticky note with book recommendations from her nurse and one of them was a Colleen Hoover book. Like someone recommended Colleen Hoover to my mom during _cancer treatment._ I'm convinced they were trying to kill her faster.
(btw my mom is fine LOL she's in remission)
so happy for your mom! :) hope she got some better recommendations though lol
I'm so happy for you and your mom! Don't let her read CH though, it'll give her cancer again 🙃
The nurse was fulling trying to take her out
I can confidently say that Colleen Hoover made these books for white middle aged nurses
I'm so happy that your mom is in remission! Also, adding as someone who dealt with nurses for 3 years working at a nursing home, and as someone who did 1 year of nursing school before I decided that I loathed it, a lot of nurses are half brain dead. 😂 They're often amazing, super intelligent people who put up with a lot for too little, but the other half are those popular people whose first completed book was The Great Gatsby in 10th grade literature class, and they only comprehended it because the entire class spent the two months discussing the content lol. Still good at their job, but weren't the most analytical of students in the bunch.
I'm very into dark romance and dynamics, but "she's gonna have all my babies" is so damn unhinged I can't help but laugh out loud
But dark romance should be advertised as such. Like I absolutely adore problematic and toxic dynamics and like to read them but first of all there should be some substance, you can't expect some specific trope to carry your entire book. And second of all, it should not be shown as everyday hallmark movie romance. Like if your book is unhinged, TELL US. Why can't these people have to shoot so wide in order to sell.
@@vaishnavisingh9244literally like there is something interesting about dark stories with dark themes but an incest story written and marketed as a hallmark romcom is like. 🤨 and also just eh
and then on top of not giving any warnings the relationships are often glorified which is just. eww @@vaishnavisingh9244
Ooh I'm trying to gt into dark romances, what's a good one you'd recommend
It also sounds like something a 10 yr old who thinks babies come from peeing in a girl’s butt would say about his playground crush.
her writing makes the after series look like a masterpiece💀
No waaaay 😂
i hade the same thought a couple of days ago
FR AT LEAST THAT WAS A WATTPAD STORY
'She has a right to be happy - she's not the one who died' has the same energy as when my brother was 6 and wrote a story about how Stanley the dog was sad because he got hit by a car.
RIP Stanley 😔✊ we mourn more for him than the big balled baby (or Miles’ mom lmao)
Jail time for Colleen’s editor who let her leave in 4 Thanksgiving dinner analogies in two pages
“I think of a rule. I can’t think of any rules. Why don’t I have any rules?”
“he looked at me like i was thanksgiving dinner” 😭
i mean the ditor didnt have a problem with "lily blossoom bloom" or "we laughed at our sons big balls" so i doubt they have big standarts
@@kharolyneholler2518HELP IS THIS REAL?😭 did she really say all that
@@kharolyneholler2518are you joking about the second one or is that real?? 😭😭
this is the closest i'll ever get to reading a colleen hoover book
no literally.
And still not far enough.
This will FOREVER BE the closest
Yeah, I tried It ends with us bc my SIL gave me it, and it's trash from the gate.
colleen hoover’s writing makes me soooo much more confident in my own fanfics wow
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Honestly loads of books make me feel better about my writing 😅
So true. Honestly the novel I am writing right now is just happening because I think I'm better than Colleen hoover 😂
Bestie, she literally confirmed herself some of her books were written on Wattpad 😭
@@sanderengelen9140 omg why didn't I know that😂 it makes so much sense now
I've read better smut on wattpad back in like 2013 😂 this is like something written by a preteen who discovered wattpad . Ive read masterpieces on Ao3 idk why Colleen is so popular but its clearly locals who had no cringe fanfic phase reading her books
My sister has November 9 and i tried to read it but then the line "Your mother left me because I slept with her best friend. My personality had nothing to do with it" came.
Isn't that line in chapter one?! Hdfkdgjfd
I refuse to read CH books, but I love watching people who have read her books talk about them lol
Kinda same. I would read the books if I didn't have to pay for it just to have first hand experience of the books (because shitting on books you've read feels far better imo) but till now, I"ve watched and will continue to watch other people talk about them.
@@Saphia_you can read a decent chunk of excepts. I wish I did because I bought "This ends with us" and I stopped on like page 30 when the main character described the male dudes muscles as something along the lines of " he was muscular but not flexing. His shirt was just too tight that his muscles couldn't help but flex" (note not actual Hoover quote but similar vibes to when I stopped reading). It's very wattpadd fantasy smut but justified abuse.
@@AnonYmous-en7op I'll have to search for the excerpts then.
On the other hand, if you didn't say that that wasn't an actual quote, I would have no trouble believing that it was.
I’m a teacher and the amount of coworkers who rant and rave about CH makes my fake smile start to twitch lmaooo last year they had a book club with one of her books and I was like mmmmm yeah I’m good thank you sweet ladies !!! 👀👀😂
I read more Colleen Hoover books than I care to say but it was fun talking about them at the nurse's station when I worked in the hospital
as a librarian this is the catharsis I've been waiting for. every day a 15 year old girl who has clearly never visited a library before shows up and asks where the colleen hoover books are. every time I want to lead them by the hand and show them the magical world of terry pratchett
Yesss! Get them kids into discworld pls, love those books:)))
Lmao GUIDE HER
you're doing god's work
Glad im still reading warrior cats as a 15 y/o 💀
DO ITA
Colleen's career boom confirms my suspicion that Booktok has zero taste in actually good content. The bar for a romance series is so low and somehow November 9 and It Ends with Us was picked as top tiers by them, its actual insanity.
And not to mention WHY THE HELL DO THESE PEOPLE LIKE THESE MEN? As a guy, it feels like a weird mix of fetishizing the abuse that people go through and are subjected to while also using trauma as a get out of jail free card for empathy. If I could use my trauma as a free pass, I'd probably own an entire house, and im paid for living in it.
Actually as im reading this, this reminded me of the couple months where people had this obsession over OJ and Jeffery Dahmer and it was actually disgusting.
Colleen Hoover was popular way before tiktok. TikTok just revitalized her career.
it ends with us is such trash--- buttt, i still gave it 4.5 stars for pure enjoyment. i could not put that sh*t down. she certainly knows how to write an engaging book, which is so impressive considering how much they lack in substance- and also dangerous b/c its glorifying/normalizing abuse and mistreatment. ive read 3 of her books so can confirm this is just how she writes. it makes sense tho for her to be so popular, in a way, since simpler content will be understood by and attract the most amount of people
Now it’s not all booktok😔it’s just a specific section of booktok
@@m.josena4485I know but like
*WHYYYYYYYY*
I'd rather have the bad ya they recommend than this, man
And the shitty part is, there are so many good romance novels out there that it's practically impossible to NOT hit a few of them. I am a strict fantasy/Sci-fi reader but some books just slip in through, and I couldn't help but enjoy them! I just physically cringe when people treat CoHo books like the greatest since Shakespeare.
me normally: books shouldn’t be banned or censored.
me after watching this video: I take it back
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OMG I'm 59, and your review just made me laugh out loud SO many times. It even made me think of this one..... "Clearest blue eyes I've ever seen..." instantly made me think she must only have seen guys who are high or have pink eye!!!! Thanks for making my day. I have never read this author, don't know if it's for my age group, but if I do read, I will now hear your voice and laugh!! Thanks for making my day!!!
the day Colleen Hoover stops writing and praising literal abuse with ZERO knowledge is the day i'll be free
She needs therapy-
Actually, she used to be a social worker before becoming a writer, so we could assume that she knows a thing or two about abuse. Which makes whatever she writes in her books that much worse.
There'll always be a new one, though. Today's CoHo, is yesterday's EL James.
Honestly imagine being another student at Miles and Rachel's school after she got pregnant. I KNOW the group chat was going crazy
I would've been that one student who my mom would've been like "So that girl Rachel is pregnant. What's up with that?" And I would've been "Mom, I dunno. I'm not in that crowd!" And then I would've found out everything after graduating.
I just know my old high school’s group me would’ve memed the shit out of it. That chat was ruthless 💀
@@briarrose5003 lmaooo same, except for me we’re a little chicken so it would be the french class group chat blowing up instead😭
Now THAT would be an actually interesting book! The group chats of the schools all these weird freaky romance protags go to. I’d pay good money to read that.
My favourite tiktok comment was a person (who obviously was a fan of dark academia/classics) asking for recommendations, someone said "CoHo" and the creator responded "recommending CoHo is a crime, AND the punishment in one. I would rather read my toilet paper."
they’re so real for that
😂😂, Oh I love us Colleen Hoover haters so much. We really can't stand that woman. You can just tell she's in a loveless marriage
@@jacquelinelugo5518She also 100% percent a boy mom. With the way she glorifies the toxic men and slutshame the women in her books and constantly pitting them against other women
A dostoevsky reference 😭
funny how it both insults the taste and recommends better books in just one sentence. also..if theyre looking for classics..why suggest coho..? only thing i find classic is coho's favoritism and excusing of toxic men in every one of her books. i just see it and think 'classic coho' because theres no way someones gonna fall in love with a guy that burnt her house down with her in it.
I screech-laughed SO HARD at the line “she’s gonna have all of my babies.” HOW DID SHE NOT DELETE THAT??? It’s so CRINGE 😭
“He’s a creep and she’s in heat” - that made me giggle
the worst part about CoHo to me is that literal children are reading her books and thinking they’re good literature. (source: I’m an English teacher)
Worse: they think it's romantic.
as a teenager, im so glad that most of my peers agree that coho is downright horrendous and nothing compared to actual good literature or even just moderately good literature.
I'm looking for some good books. Can you recommend me some?
@@zarinfatehi1896 For romance, Rebecca Jenshak writes cute stories. I particularly liked her Wallflowers series. Campus Nights is pretty good as well, and that's earlier in the timeline than Wallflowers.
Let me tell you. I was that teenager. I thought that she is amazing and that her books are mind blowing. Until I got a reality check and realized I am learning literally nothing from it. Shifted to reading actual literature and the best decision I made.
My best summary for CoHo after reading some of her books is: Men with no spine, women hating each other for no reason and romanticised toxic behaviors.
Don't forget borderline incestual relationships!!
@@rachel5399honorable mention to without merit a 0/10 read at that ☹️
@@rachel5399I once read a comment that said, If you want somewhat incest. You read CoHo. You want full incest read Cassandra Clare 😂😂 and I lost it
"so don't mind me being a horse on a porch." girl BYE I died
As someone named Rachel… Miles’s inner monologue is deeply unsettling 😂
sameeee
You know what I’m glad Colleen Hoover exists in a way. If the line “we laugh at our sons big balls” can get you an entire shelf at a bookstore, then I too can get a shelf at a bookstore.
counterpoint: her books arent popular bc they hit a certain level of good, but bc they hit a certain level of bad.
how low can YOU go?
Why are the characters constantly repeating words “Laugh, Laugh, Laugh,” “silence,silence, silence.” “Rachel, Rachel, Rachel.” We get it bro trust me. 💀
Good good.
Honestly 💀
@@clixheNo. Bad bad.
The rule of three...?
thanksgiving dinner
The fact that Hoover wrote an entire book based on her mother's abuse she faced at the hands of her husband, and basically profited off of it, just makes me feel uneasy. There's also her having an entire feud with a teenager, just because he didn't like her books.
omg Caleb? I love him
@@athenajaxon2397 lmao Caleb was the reason I was introduced to CH so when she became massively popular, I just knew her as that gross vindictive woman that glorifies abuse and it seems I didn't need to know anything else....
Don't forget the coloring book that was almost published to profit even further off her mother's trauma 🙃
I get writing about it, because that's a very healthy and helpful way of expressing trauma. Making it into something that could turn around and be a positive thing, like a paycheck, isn't, at least in my mind, that big of an ick. It's a way of guaranteeing her financial independence, which is a seriously respectable goal, especially for us ladies. Having to depend on a man, is why so many women stay in abusive relationships in the first place. She could also(idk if she has, and given how much money she has undoubtedly made from her spike in popularity), donate to women and children's shelters. HOWEVER. I don't understand why she keeps making stories about abusive, manipulative men and glorifies it. Writing one book where a character subjects themself to abuse, because of insecurities, depression, and whatever else, to show how often normal the low bar is for a good partner, and how often we sell ourselves short in the face of what we actually deserve, is one thing. It's a way of looking at your past self, or her mother's self, in her case, and empathizing with the victim. But to continually write about men who are vindictive and selfish, abusive, and all around toxic waste, romanticize them all the way through the book, creating relationships built on deceit and gross manipulations of emotions and situations, is a complete disregard for every good thing that she tried to bring awareness to in It Ends With Us. How am I, your reader, supposed to hate THIS abusive man but not THAT abusive man? Because one was written to be a bad person but the other is just a bad person on accident? That's my issue with it.
I got her e-book and halfway reading I already feel like this isn't gonna end well (I'm talking 'bout It Ends With Us). Now I'm thinking whether to finish the book (to make my money worth, LOL) or to let it sit there on my Kobo. ~~~
“The last book he cracked open was Flat Stanley.”
It was Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Cabin Fever, thank you very much.
19:50 When you were taking about this scene, it made me think about that one scene in _After Ever Happy_ when Hardin gave a homeless man (Joe) his scarf in front of Tessa, as a redeeming quality.
This gave me such a big realization, lol.
It made me realize, there’s such a pattern in the male love interests. 💀
Many of Hoover's male leads, most notably Jeremy from Verity and Ben from November 9, are so toxic, yet they're presented as charming. While Ryle from It Ends With Us is intentionally written to be abusive, Lily still lets him play a major role in their daughter's life following their divorce.
R…ryle? Did she ask scooby doo for name suggestions?
@@glass.hammer wiat until you find out the female lead who owns a flower shop is called Lilly Blossom Bloom
I was like wtfff is she doooiiiing and would have burned the book if it wasn't an audiobook ☠️
She really said "It Ends With Us" and then didn't end it
no but even on my first read through i felt very. icky. about colleen’s writing 😭 within like minutes of first meeting ryle, lily really does tell this man who’s been bashing a plastic chair, the building she lives in, you know, uhm! okay!
Ugly Love is an interesting idea but it's written so childishly i'm shocked that it was written by a grown woman and not a fourteen year old
RIGHT it was so poorly written. when the baby died i was luaghing bc the writing was so horrible. "DEAFENING SCREAM" i lost it
Definitely, I agree. It was BAD even though the idea had a lot of potential.
I wonder if the reason for these books' popularity is that they are written for 14 year olds to feel edgy.
@@no-gc3lo the "go pee" line after sex that Casey didnt read outloud had me crying from laughter wtf how do people like love this writing
im a fan of badly written tv but like...ik its bad and i laugh at it
@@levilore_7126lmao I couldn't imagine someone telling me to "go pee," so I wouldn't risk a UTI, and that's supposed to be indicative that they actually do care for me and my wellbeing. In a LOVE story???! 😂😂
“He’s a creep, and she’s in heat ✨” I can’t believe this content is free 😂❤
When she said that, I actually heard it in my mind to the tune of Sk8ter Boi:
“He was a creep, she was in heat
Can I make it any more obvious?”
And now I'm scared I'm going to have this as a twisted earworm 😂
I heard it to the tune of Creep by Radiohead💀
@@qwirky1709LMFAO IM DEAD
I hope she makes it as merch, I need a shirt or a Hoodie that saids that 😂
As a literature enthusiast, I immediately recommended this book to a friend of mine, after i finished reading it. Not because I liked it, but I wanted my friend to go through the lows, to appreciate the highs. Because that‘s what it was like for me. After reading Colleen's garbage of a book, it gave me a new perspective on life and made me appreciate all the good literature I had read before.
The bad thing about finding this video now, is that the other parts aren’t out yet for me to binge. The good part is that I have a whole new CHANNEL to binge!!
12:32 “take your sandwiches with you” legitimately makes me cackle. it’s such a good example of coho’s accidental humor. she’s good at genres she doesn’t mean to write, and most of her books are horror.
yeah because if i met a boy like miles i’d run the other way💀
I have not personally read a Colleen Hoover book but I have developed a masochistic obsession with watching other people rag on them. From this I have learned that in at least two of her books there’s a scene where a couple have rough piv sex while the female character is newly postpartum. I know we’re not supposed to kink shame but that is such a weirdly specific and off-putting scenario. Why dear god why?
You and me both 😂
that is not a kink that’s sick
Just weird 😭
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no bc that certainly cannot be comfortable. pretty sure youre supposed to wait like, MINIMUM 6 weeks
I am of the opinion that anyone who likes her books have just never read fanfiction. That's where we should be getting our kinks and unhealthy relationship fantasies in. Openly admitting to being a Coleen Hoover stan is basically the same as being horny on main.
Agreed. It’s like 50 Shades of Grey selling 100 million copies… Thanks, now I know that millions of Boomers whacked off to that drivel. Did it add anything to my life, apart from disgust?
Horny on mainn omg 💀
@@savannnnnnahnah they are too straight for ao3.
imma just say that i’ve read way better fanfics than this bs 😭🤚🏻 i said what i said 🤭🤷🏻♀️
Shove them all towards Wattpad, it'll save them money and braincells
"he could have asked for milk and she would be moaning." I love you girl😂❤️
Fun fact I have a mutual friend that reads A LOT, like multiple books a week. And I was in a reading slump and wanted to get back to reading regularly. So I asked her if she had any recs. And she recommended Verity. So I bought Verity thinking it was going to be this great gripping book that was going to make me appreciate literature again. I had never heard of Colleen Hoover or verity. Imagine my surprise 🤣
Oh, noooooooo...
My theory is that Colleen doesn’t read her books’ drafts after writing them because there’s always so much repetition and plot holes😭
She openly admitted in her acknowledgments section of Verity that she finished her draft four days before the deadline 😆
@@d_alistair-years that really explains the ending.
one of her more violent and worst books was her just writing to let off steam, but her fans liked it online, so she published it without editing it at all
i would love some dark romance novels in theory but in reality its just like "he smacked my down there it was so sexy"
“he smacked my down there” iM CRYFUFJD
Same. The only time I've enjoyed anything close to a dark romance was a fanfic where the main couple got progressively more unhinged and into murdering/getting murdered by each other because of time loops. If anyone can recommend me something good I'd love to read it though
@@kjarakravik4837Whats the name of the book? if you can remember It's sound interesting!
that actually sounds interesting, what was it?@@kjarakravik4837
@@kjarakravik4837what’s the name of the fic? Sounds interesting!
honestly the old man who operated the elevator's story about being in love with a married woman who couldnt leave her husband due to the time they were in sounds infinitely more interesting than whatever tf this was. why didn't she just write that story? lmao
This is common with her books. The side characters have better plots but show up to give advice or be set dressing
@@d_alistair-years side characters have more flavour than the main characters combined
@@singingofsilver
Like Twilight
This is 100 times more entertaining than actually reading a Colleen Hoover book.
I'm never going to know for sure but I'm getting strong vibes
This video is so validating. I first picked up a Colleen Hoover novel two years ago amidst all the hype on social media and from friends. I was curious what all the noise was about. Turns out I hated it. I couldn’t even make it past the first few pages of IEWU. I can’t fathom how anyone else can.
someone once said "coho books are for people that don't read" and i couldn't agree more - like, i'm glad people are getting into reading, but please fucking branch out and realize how bad these are. like there are so many amazing books out there and you as a reader deserve better than this schlock.
loved this video and i'm so stoked for the next parts.
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Facts
BookTok has made me realize all the dark and taboo stuff people are into. Which whatever, to each their own, but when it’s marketed as regular romance and becomes popular, and I see young girls reading it and liking these male protagonists, I worry about how they’ll view their own relationships and what they may allow because they’re learning it’s romantic not abusive
Exactly
Yeah like I hate her so much bc I feel like her books are actually harmful. Most sa victims were assaulted by someone they knew and trusted like a friend or boyfriend. I also saw a young girls comment once that said "Ben wasn't abusive he was literally traumatized! It's not his fault" like yeah that's what victims think about their boyfriends before they get victimized. I have no hate towards her fans because they are mostly teenagers and are naive but colleen as a 43yo woman should fucking know better than serving rape and abuse to her teenage girl audience on a sexy pink platter
thank you so much for mentioning this
It’s just twilight 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever the fuck.
Books have been brainwashing children for forever. The whole point of the printing press was mass psychosis and brainwashing via religion.
Why you think it would be used for anything else in the current era, I do not understand…
The same with every popular romance book there is… all of it is marketed as being feminist… But in reality underneath the shallow veneer, it’s incredibly sexiest, abusive, and manipulative.
Storytime: a couple months ago, I was in the Walmart book section with one of my friends, just looking for a new book to read. We started talking about how it felt like half of all the books in the store were Colleen Hoover. A few minutes later, two separate sets of mother daughter duos came to look specifically at the Colleen Hoover section. They started talking about CH and one of them said that she and her daughter had both read ALMOST EVERY Colleen Hoover book and there was only ONE they didn't like. My friend and I just kind of looked at each other and practically ran away. They wouldn't stop talking about how well-written her books were. We simply couldn't handle it
Her books are, besides the usual criticism that are totally right, so damn over dramatic an unrealistic.
I just wanna say, I almost never watch book videos on UA-cam, and randomly decided to watch this one, but the way you talk and carry your stories so smoothly is just really nice to listen too and my adhd brain can follow it well which is hard to come by. you just got a subscriber from that
"they laughed at this kid's balls and then he DIED" KILLS ME LMAO
Girl i'm honestly kinda sad cause I was really proud of the hometown girlies on fb for suddenly being so into reading but to find out this... is what they're reading? um
These books got my sister into reading and I'm just glad she let me suggest other shit to read after LMAO
Ikr like don’t you dare call yourself a reader 😭
a THREE PART casey book review ?!? this is my superbowl
I thank god every day that when these books were gaining prominence on TikTok, I got two concussions that left me unable to read & look at screens for 8 months!
A divine intervention. Not a fun one but a divine intervention nonetheless.
omg what DID you do? i could go without screens but not if i couldn't have books either lol and vice versa
@@readingrapunzel5092maybe audiobooks? Although last time I got a concussion the sound gave me a headache
I would be so ripped and swole if I couldn't read or watch my YT or movies for almost a year lmao. Maybe I need to get a concussion so I can finally stick to my workout routine lol. Glad you're ok, though! That sounds scary.
@@rachel5399 I’d tell you that’s a good plan, but they don’t even let you work out. Months of marathon training went down the drain for me. I went on silly little mental health walks and slept. 10/10 would not recommend.
I've always liked you and I was so invested in your take about CoHo coz I also am creeped out by her writing then suddenly A RED VELVET SONG SHOW UP. I love you even more lol
the parts where you get jumpscared by kpop references are best parts of her videos😫🙏🏾
@@zwsamia literallyy and the stayc stereotype instrumental right after LMAO
2:18 I got accepted and I haven't read a single book of hers. I heard about it from this video, watched part 2, asked to join and used one of the pt2 books as my "favorite" and got in super quick. Idk why they wouldve denied you lmao
It’s actually such a mystery how her ‘romance’ books have gained such popularity considering it borderlines toxicity and abuse, the only book of hers that I can stomach as the genre it was marketed and portrayed was verity. All the illicit, intimate relationships in there made me feel as icky as her other books, but at least it didn’t feel like it was being past off as a romantic, aspirational relationship. I think she just needs to focus on thrillers, all her romance novels just come off as glittery, glorified abuse
Honestly I think people are just super h0rnballs and found the romance / dark psyche plot as the perfect excuse to talk about a book that they found sexy. A lot of her work is literally long ass sex scenes with a bit of drama and crazy.
That one is considered a romance book too. She has said that Verity is the villain.
@@eneyavorodeckyoh wow nevermind then😭
@@eneyavorodeckyif the man was the villain then that book would work. her admitting verity as the villain is fking ridiculous
@@ihatemickiegee yeah and the extra epilogue in which... SPOILERS!!!!!!!! the dude kills ANOTHER woman and our protagonist is like "oh, fuck, he is 2 for 2 now. And basically raped me. Naaaah, he is doing it to protect us." feels like she is messing with her fans at this point.
I first heard about CH back in 2015 when she announced “It ends with us” (I liked her back then but in my defense I was also going through my wattpad era) It’s crazy for me that she suddenly jumped in popularity after all this years, with that specific book, it’s like seeing you favorite wattpad writer from when you were 15 becoming popular but now you’re an adult and her popularity is a constant remainder of how cringe you were
Girl this is me except I went from reading this woman’s mid Harry Potter fanfiction (that had incest in it) and then a few years later she published a super successful book series (that also had incest in it) and that woman was Cassandra fucking Clare.
The Mortal Instruments is a prolifically popular YA series. There’s a movie. A TV show. There’s like 100 books in that series. She haunts me
Years ago I really liked her books (even though those I liked are not those mostly critized) and I‘m wondering if I just read some of her better books or if I just was a 14 year old who was used to Wattpad romances
@@gologelyou described it perfectly 😭 I think it's a combination of both
That.. was beyond words. I'm so glad I've been avoiding her books now, I knew all booktok recommendations suck big balls
they are big huh
love how you compared that one miles inner monologue to you tryna talk abt a red velvet song bc i too, let red velvet invade me. i soak up red velvet songs like a sponge. i pluck them out of the air and swallow them
I stumbled upon your video and just wanna say you do such a great job articulating your thoughts! I started reading It Ends With Us since it was marked as a romance book, halfway in I had to stop reading. As a DV survivor, i wish she did a better job at the analogy she writes or give a trigger warning beforehand. I don’t understand how known she is about writing romance books but there’s a boundary between writing love stories and a story of a woman who was being abused by someone she loved.
Ive never read Coleens books so every time someones talks about what some of her books are about, I feel like yall are faking it lol
My bestie told me the story about November 9 and honestly it wasn’t that bad at all. Basic yeah but it could be so much worst
@@famemosterrrrr Lmao, didn't the Male Lead stalked the protagonist and was the one who set fire to her home, or am I tripping? Also the one in which the Male Lead had an affair with his dead brother's wife because "they both needed it", and the one in which the protagonist is made to applogize for breaking his heart??
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Oh dear......yeah she definitely could have used some therapy if that's her defn of romantic lead....
oh believe me her books are horrible...
“i want rachel for graduation” is one of the funniest sentences ive ever heard
"Rachel. Rachel. Rachel..."
Why doesn't it surprise me that Kylie Jenner has bad taste in books.. Just add it to the list of her crimes against humanity
I'm surprised she even reads.
@@AeliaReadsBooks It's so cruel to say but same.
Lol what did Kylie do to you!
@@AeliaReadsBooksI really though all the Kardashians-Jenners were literate
including dating timothee chalamet
girl what where is part 2 and 3?!?! this video was recommended to me and i loved it and i need more! you're hilarious!
omg i was subbed when you were only doing the book reviews and im really glad you're bringing it back!!
This is what we all needed from you, I love your book reviews
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So my takeaway from this is, colleen really really likes thanksgiving dinner.
& juice! 😂 I watched another commentary/read-along thing on YT and the amount of dry, undesirable, and unnecessary sentences about juice. Literally, it was like:
"I open the fridge and see juice. I decide I want some juice, even if it's someone else's juice. The juice is cranberry. That's my favorite juice. I grab a cup for the juice. I pour the juice. The juice is delicious." It's so 2nd grade coed and I seriously don't know how her publisher didn't fix that repetitive nonsense.
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As someone who's currently writing their first novel...I felt more confident in my writing ability after seeing this. Thank you Casey! :P
@@Kristianalexis1 Wow, good luck as well! If I'm learning one thing with this first novel, it's okay to rest for a bit and come back.
Good luck to both of you
@@Kristianalexis1 you're welcome
@@Kristianalexis1 woaahh! That's definitely sounds intresting. Once again good luck 🍀
@@Kristianalexis1 ♡♡♡♡
I was just curious about Colleen Hoover's world as I know she's successful but do not intend to read her books and this video was just fantastic, I laughed so hard, thank you. can't wait for the next one about CoHo
This video has me crying in laughter. PLEASE release the next episode soon. I‘m begging you
colleen's dialogue feels like a parody of her own writing style
I've always wondered what it is about Colleen Hoover books that make them so successful and after watching this I wonder even more 😭
Definitely people who didn't get into fanfics or Wattpad back when they were teens. I had my very huge and unhealthy helping of toxic and some abusive relationships from Wattpad and I would never pick these books up (ehh.. if I didn't want to hate read them).
@@Saphia_ That could partly be the reason but I've never had a fanfiction phase and I don't see myself ever being attracted to Hoover's books. So there must be some other reason too 🤔 I also thought maybe the sex scenes are great or the female character "saves" the male character but that does not seem to be it
Because people have different tastes in books. I'm just glad people nowadays are still reading considering all the technology coming about and just nearing taking over. People will always have different tastes just like people like modern homes and some don't.
@@willowx6364 Sure, but there are so many people that love her books so there must be something about her books that we as a society or as humans are very generally attracted to and I wonder what that is :) Her books must have something in or about them that a lot of us seek for or want
@@willowx6364the idea that people, especially young ones, just aren't reading these days bc of technology is just plain wrong. Some may prefer ebooks, audiobooks, or other methods instead of the traditional physical copies, but that's still reading. Just like we prefer sending e-mails instead of physical letters for example. We're still communicating, just in a different format. And *I don't think impressionable teens reading books with toxic depictions of relationships that could potentially lead them to also replicate those dynamics in the future should be considered a win just bc "oh well, at least they're reading instead being on their phones* all day". *No one is arguing that ppl have different tastes* nor saying that teens should be reading 'Pride & Prejudice' instead. Just that authors of these types of books should be a bit more mindful of what they write when their books reach people outside of their original target audience. Like teens. A small warning in the beginning or end of the book could be helpful. But from what I've seen CoHo and her stans just shut down any valid criticism and label it as ppl 'hating' what young women like which, while a valid point, it's not always the case.
I love this video more than Thanksgiving dinner, and I love Thanksgiving dinner.
NOW- LXJSODIAO
This is the first ever video I’ve watched from you and I’ve gotta say, your editing is top tier 😂👌🏼 *subscribed*
I'm a librarian and these books were trending HARD about 4 months ago. We couldn't keep them on our shelves.
Now it seems like everyone has moved on to Fredia MacFadden books.
Also I had no idea what type of books CoHo wrote (though it was just drama) so it just made me feel a bit ashamed for letting a 13 year old check it out.
"Spread bald eagle" 😂😂😂 sorry, but that take on "lying spread eagle" is now my favourite faux pas ever 😂😂
HAHAH OMG I DIDNT NOTICE THAT
Noooo
I've watched a bunch of videos on ugly love, and you're the first person who brings up that they never mention the step siblings thing EVER
I am so thankful for creators like Casey, Kennie, Amanda and Alex who are there to consume terrible media and tell me about it so that I don’t have to.
Thank you for your service. 🏅
This video is better than thanksgiving dinner I'm so fed rn thanks queen :'), and I LOVE thanksgiving dinner
i was so baffled when i actually read colleen hoover because it was like an episode story... i literally looked up whether there were two colleen hoovers because i couldnt believe this was the kind of storytelling and writing people were hyping up
I've read episode stories by teenagers that were better than this ngl
Wattpad even has better stories
@@lilyhatesgoogleand hilarious!
@@lilyhatesgoogleive read incredible fanfiction probably written by middle schoolers LMAO😭
that picture of lin manuel miranda as miles will now be SEARED into my mind, i won't be able to think of him any other way
Ugly Love is actually the worst book I have ever read in my life. I’m genuinely ashamed of myself for reading it
COVID was still going strong, A lot of people had been stuck inside. A lot of people lost their jobs, lost their family... I honestly think she got so popular when she did because people NEEDED mindless romance that was simple to read. Full of toxicity, drama, and pop-culture references. I truly believe people wanted/craved simplicity and Colleen Hoover books fulfilled that.
Her books are also largely printed - so you can read an entire book in a day- or a week - and feel really good about yourself for "reading an entire book".
STOP I LOVE YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT BLOOM LIKE THAT OMG 😭ITS SUCH AN AMAZING ALBUM AND ALL THE SONGS ARE AMAZING
colleen hoover scared me… “we both laughed at our sons big balls” like UM WHAT what kind of books are these 😭
The kind where they laugh at their sons big balls
@@655bebeusgdbeueb4jdu 😭
CoHo’s books are poorly edited and marketed horror books, I’m more convinced with each new review I watch. A few tweaks and we could have a brilliant horror novel. Instead she markets abuse as dark romance.
Not even dark romance - mainstream, regular romance at that.
her entire writing and plots centering around trauma eventually make you desensitized to it (i certainly was) and then you see how much the characters lack actual substance. the emotions these books incite in people largely just come from the fact that the plot contains sensitive and triggering topics, and you can't criticize her for this because "it's a real issue".
من أفضل الفيديوهات التي شاهدتها في الفترة الاخيرة أسلوبك في النقد رائع جداً ومضحك نحتاج الجزء الثاني بأسرع وقت 🫶🏼
Okay I’m not really on TikTok and I’d never heard of this author, so I was like “people just like being haters, I bet it’s not THAT bad.”
Oh. My. God.
When you got to the balls part with the dramatic music playing in the background, I laughed so hard I cried.
miss girl i was WAITING for you to make a video about this. this topic has your name written all over it