I always assumed that people in Yharnam cover their eyes not simply as symbolic meaning to Willem, but also to try to hide if their pupils have collapsed, which implies that they're close to turning into beasts. It just became an accepted social norm that everyone's got bandages and whatnot over their eyes, and they all just say it's some tribute and whatnot, but it's moreso to keep themselves safe from hunters noticing the most obvious sign of beasthood.
They also literally put eyes on the inside of their brain. So it's definitely not a figurative thing. I'm not sure why he thinks they are just being figurative. There are numerous sources talking about eyes actually being put into skulls.
Maybe you're right. When we talk to Gilbert in the center of Yharnam, we realize that he is sick and coughs everytime we talk to him. Later, after defeating Vicar Amelia, he's worse than before and asks the gods for help. And finally, in the blood moon stage, we found him fully turned into a beast with a bandage covering his eyes. The suspicious Beggar in the forbbiden woods is found feeding upon corpses and if we attack him, he turns into a beast. He also has bandages covering his eyes.
@@cardboardbox5704 Gascoigne covers his eyes, and then literally transforms into a beast in his boss battle. I think word got around that the beastly eyes is what caused people to be pulled into the Hunter's Nightmare.
I understand the Queen and why she doesn't want to marriage. She is immortal, you are not. Even though with that compliment you can see that she is "happy" that you love her, she would rather not feel the pain that will come when you actually die.
XD yeah let´s go through every step of the way like Fungo, then get reborn as a great one and rape Annalise, there you go everyone is happy, she got her inhuman blood baby and we got to bang the vampire queen.
The Holy Church had a werewolf as their greatest ally (Van Hellsing) and the Vilebloods (vampires) had their greatest ally (Dracula) and as the legend says Van Hellsing (werewolf) was the mortal enemy to Dracula (vampire)
12:29 in Japanese version, his reaction translates a bit more like “You will betray me, as well” thats an implication someone else had betrayed him already. Laurence is the first vicar too.. he left Willem to start the healing church, so i highly doubt he’s responsible for the Vilebloods too.
I wouldn't say the story of the game itself is amazing, but rather the story put together by fans. Even if they are correct, the game very rarely having anything to confirm them is a flaw in my opinion (granted that the DLC did possibly confirm some). I think the Souls games would be much better (atleast in terms of characters, lore and story) if they had an in-game info page similar to Nioh. Essentially having the lore notes of the fanmade Wikis be part of the actual game. Oh and they really should just animate NPC's faces when they talk. Why even bother having them blink? It has to be laziness, but even then, I'd rather they'd just cover everybody's face. (and know about the theory that it's like that on purpose, so that the slight facial movement of the Doll is more meaningful. I still think it's just embarrassing in a 2015 game).
Technically Annalise is speaking in Middle English, the type of English Shakespeare used in most of his plays and poems, but true Old English is a monster all its own to read and comprehend
This is good lore... however, there is a possible explanation for the Cainhurst summons you find at the clinic. According to one theory, you, the playable character, are the last survivor of the massacre of the Fishing Hamlet. You were seeking help for an unknown blood condition (possibly due to exposure to Kos) when you arrived at the clinic (beginning of the game). You possessed the summons at the beginning--that's why the Vilebloods are interested in your character, because of the mystery of the Fishing Hamlet and the possible power of Kos. This also explains why you are chosen to be the Good Hunter, in order to--in one sense--redeem Gehrman and the other hunters who participated in the slaughter of the Hamlet inhabitants. One clue indicating this might be true is the 'Lone Survivor' class you can choose at the beginning of the game: 'lone survivor of a lost hamlet' is the description, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure what the blood minister did to make our character lose his/her memory prior to encountering the Messengers at the beginning of the game--maybe Gehrman wanted our memory to get zapped so we would be willing to redeem him? I look at the game as an adventure to stop the Great Ones from ruining mankind, and a puzzle to figure out what happened to our Good Hunter in the first place. Anyway, this is just a theory, but I like it, personally.
Omg this is the exactly theory i have for my oc. I'm glad im not the only one who interpreted it that way. This game has such deep lore you can understand it in multiple ways.
That explains the executioner outside the clinic It makes me wonder how amazing the cut content must have been, like when Gehrman had a close relationship with Cainhurts nobles (and possible met Maria there) since he was the traitor Alfred spoke of or how the Dark beasts originated from Loran Dang Miyazaky give us a sequel or something
I don't think the Great Ones are as malicious as you seem to believe. Ebrites does literally nothing, only attacking in self defense. The Moon Presence's focus seems to be on the other Great Ones. The Brain was captured and tortured by Mensis. Only three Lesser Amygdala's are hostile, two serve as Gate Guardians, and one just lasers everything. Oedon's off being Formless. All and all, the Great Ones (apart from one asshole Lesser Amygdala) don't display any real aggression or malevolence to humanity. Now, you could make an argument the Great Ones are indirectly harmful to humanity.
Queen Anelise isn't speaking in 3rd person, dude. The "we", "us" and"our" which she uses is referred to as the "royal we", the "royal us" and the "royal our". And it's traditionally used by Kings and Queens to refer to themselves. Even the current Queen of England makes use of these phrases when referring to herself. Didn't you think it was strange that these words were written in capital letters in the dialogue? Even though they appeared in the middle of the sentence? It was a dead giveaway.
I don't think Laurance was the Cainhurst scholar Alfred was alluding to. Given that he was the founder of the healing church (the first vicar), it is unlikely the church would make a mortal enemy out of his studies. Additionally, Lady Maria's weapon and armor descriptions allude to a time when hunters from Cainhurst trained under Gerham, suggesting the nobles were not antagonized in the early days of the church.
That manner of speaking of Annalis is called Majestic Plural or Royal "we" which is common among those born to the crown due to them being isolated There was an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire which use this manner
I reckon Alfred killed himself because either a) lolmartyrdom or b) the wiki mentions his pupils are starting to collapse, so it might have been that he recognised beasthood coming and chose to die as a human after doing what he came to do.
I thought it might be because of the possibility of tainting his own blood by getting covered in Queen Analise's blood. IDK, he wears the cone thing on his head and is fully clothed so I doub't he's directly touching it. It's just what came to mind at first. Achieving martyrdom seems more "obvious" (to the extent it can be in these games).
@@lucas-xf7rc it does seem more legit he chose martyrdom, I mean what else did he have to live for, plus I mean after that it's just "guess I'll just hang around in a nightmare I can't wake up from"
Random thought. People say Tesla, or whatever his name is, was crazy for saying we could use the sun for limitless power. It's 2018 and we have solar-powered housing. He wasn't crazy.
He wasn't but can you check from what time is Tesla s from, them you understand why people did not believe him hen he was alive. The world could be really different today.
I really like this video. However seems a bias was towards liking the executioners, I prefer vilebloods. The church messes up and someone takes blood to Cainhurst, not knowing better they drink it and the answer is to form the Executioners. A group of fanatics who never question the church but are quick to destroy any who do. Executioners go to Cainhurst and their answer is to literally destroy everyone (infected or not) there and obliterate the culture. Mirroring that of which happened to Old Yharnam. Also Alfred hardly knows any of the inner workings of the church, but hates the Vileboods because the church tells him to. Proceeds to pretend to know what they stand for, when he doesn't even understand his own organization beyond rudimentary knowledge. Also it seems that you thought the description of the Executioner Set was something Logarius often said. However, to me it reads more like a death poem, I believe they are a bit more common in Japan - emperors there would sometimes write them. Sounds like something you would more so reflect on after having done something you didn't want to but believed was right. But I probably have my own bias as well. Thanks
Vilebloods aren't the good guys though The executioners are fanatics, as is Alfred if you let him go 'indulge himself' at cainherst But the vilebloods are still corrupt nobles and vampiric beasts that are greedy and care only about their Queens blood and blood dregs
But you don't know that the Vilebloods did anything wrong. They were the ones that were slaughtered for receicing a gift someone brought them (some say it's the bloody crow, some say it's Maria, who knows, but it's not like the Vilebloods planted a spy to steal it). The church claims the Vileblood is tainted, but you don't see any evidence of this either. (Arianna's blood restores stamina, Adella's restores HP, but who knows if the type of exact healing doesn't differ among different individuals, rather than church vs cainhurst?) Also, if we're talking about tainted, it seems like neither blood is able to escape the beastly scourge to begin with, so the Old Blood is tainted regardless of which faction uses it. The church and executioners in general are the bad guys, greedily wanting ascension and killing everyone or everything in their way, along with the massacre at the Hamlet and the choir experimenting on orphans, etc. I tend to see Cainhurst merely as a political rival that they wanted to get rid of, especially since someone brought them some Old Blood. It seems more likely that they didn't want to share, rather than their propaganda that everyone at Cainhurst is evil and them having some old blood will taint the church's own (although it's a good story to feed to devoted simpletons like Alfred).
Both sides are bad I don’t see why anyone would be defending Cainhurst/Vilebloods. They both want accession the church by over indulging in the old blood/preforming cruel experiments. Cainhurst by hunting down those they don’t have even know just for blood dregs to give to the queen. Even when the other nobles were still alive they weren’t great people evident by the Executioner’s Gloves. "One of the secret treasures hidden in Cainhurst." "The gloves of an executioner from a faraway land." "Passed from executioner father to executioner son, these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood." "It is said that the nobles found immeasurable delight in the dances of these vengeful specters."
@@quinnholloway5400 yes. But the claim made in the video is that the executioners are the one purely good faction. Which is just.. how could anyone come to that conclusion? They attacked first and slaughtered everyone, not just the nobles. Hunter of hunters is the only good faction, imo. For obvious reasons
Rather than Ebrietas being discovered and brought to the cavern beneath the cathedral, wouldn't it seem more likely she was just found there and the Church built the cavern around her? It makes sense when you take into account the Isz Chalice is found there and the fact that the area is already cavernous, much like a good portion of the Pthumerian Ruins. It wouldn't be too absurd to think the Alter of Despair is the likely entrance to Isz. When you look at it that way, she being the source of the blood just seems more like a satisfying conclusion. And to not even remotely sound sarcastic, can you honestly imagine the Church not only transporting a giant alien through town but the Rom-like alter as well? Surely someone would of taken notice. Taken all of this into account, it seems more plausible Ebrietas was simply discovered exactly where we Hunters find her.
Master Willem: I know everything about the gods and know how to not get screwed and become a cleric beast. Better be vague to my subordinates before i leave tho, they can go to hell.
I gotta say, I expected this to be just another lore video. The comedic way that you presented this was phenomenal and I watched every minute of it. Thanks for making my day!
These lore videos are *WAY* more in depth than Vaati's. Way more real world connections and references. The Nikola Tesla comparison was genius. I've put well over 3000 hours into this game and thanks to Fungo, Im somehow still learning even more.
Why are the vilebloods and healing church enemies exactly? Seems they were just trying to accomplish roughly the same thing. Were the healing church just not able to bear the fact that another organization could have been more powerful if left unchecked?
AndrewLuis CrespoDeMoura Seems like it, but the Healing Church is the very reason why the Vilebloods exist in the first place. Or at least Laurence is to blame, since by all evidence given he's the one who brought the "forbidden blood" back to Cainhurst.
AndrewLuis CrespoDeMoura The healing church sees them as a threat because they are attempting to birth a child of blood. Also the family linked to the pthumerians and are gaining power so the church doesn't like that. If that makes any sense
I think the Vilebloods were a scapegoat of sorts. When the church started turning to beasts, I suspect they targeted the Vilebloods as an act of "righteous fury."
Kenni Cumberbatch Not necessarily. The knights in the tombs is evidence enought to prove that the Vilebloods were the first group after the Pthumerians, so perhaps they were the first to find the "Old Blood". Laurence appearance and the establishment of the Healing Church was way later. So he doesn't have anything to do with it. Also, the executioners garb will tell you that Logarius is way back in the timeline. Why? Well because the attire was the one that the church took inspiration to make a holy shawl. "later became the basis for all Church attire, with its heavy draping of Holy Shawl". So the Executioners were also a group that was founded way back. Cheers.
I think you were pretty spot on about most of this. However I do think you mistook Lawrence as the one who Alfred references as the byrgenworth scholar that betrayed willem to bring the old blood to cainhurst. While I do think it's plausible, I don't think it's likely. For instance, why would Laurence give them one strain of the old blood establish the "Healing Church" with a different strain and then create the executioners to eliminate them? It just doesn't make too much sense. Also, the blood lickers outside cainhurst aren't cainhurstians. They likely showed up after the battle that took place in castle cainhurst. If you go into some of the deeper chalice dungeons you'll notice that sometimes after killing strong enemies or even a large number in one room that one (a blood licker) will appear. I'm not sure where these things originate from, but they seem to be similar to the carrion crows in that they definitely do over indulge in blood themselves.
John Dibble he didn't betray byrgenworth.... he just left it... which willem saw as a betrayal. And not sure why you're telling me the obvious about logarious....
Well it's possible that Laurence went to cainhurst to get the healing church established as a place of power since cainhurst were probably the ones in power at the time
I think the blood lickers are Pthumerians and cainhurst must have some connection to them through their bloodline, they're trying to do what the Pthumerians did, birth a child of blood
Oh hell i never thought of how the cold temps would drastically slow decomp for lagaurius making him and the vileblood area likely to be even older then they allready seem!
Alfred, my boy. Shoulda burnt the entire castle down on top of her brutalized corpse. Made it virtually impossible for ant means to rejuvenate or resurrect her.
i don't feel like he is like solaire at all. he is just very Obsessive, almost brainwashed. I feel this is the game's portrayal of obsessive religious people. and he dons a mask of a righteous man. when he talks about the other "religion" his tone changes. and when he kills Annalise his "mask" falls off. showing someone who has become something worse than the thing he hunted. ironic somehow.
I think Alfred is highly inspired by Farneze from Berserk, who blindly follows Mozgus in his zealot quest in irradicating heretics, in this case, the Vilebloods.
The guy was secretly in love with Annalise, I could tell. His bitch ass was rejected as her suitor. I know it. That is why he is all "that's what you get, bitch!" when he thinks he killed her, and the utter brutality and madness of the kill. Crushed by a fucking wheel into a pulp? C'mon man, that lady is fine as hell. He wanted to become the male heir and the father of the Child of Blood. I swear, the entire Executioner's were born out of nothing more for a disdane for the Vileblood's (the name given to them by the Executioner's, their real name is the The Noble Bloodline of Cainhurst) anyway, the guy shows the worst of a religious zealot and a phony. Honestly, more of a false prophet. HIs unaging looks is also only explained by the fact that he pertook of the blood.
umm, im not sure if you are aware that Alfred uses you to get to his own goals. he couldn't give a damn about the "friendship" between himself and a hunter.
Annalise’s soft and concerned rejections and forgiveness bring me warm feelings She just likes you so much that you kill her brutally and then bring her back and she doesn’t even hold a grudge or anything Why is she so nice too aaaaaaa
Are you sure that to "line his brain with eyes" was figurative? The Accursed Brew from the DLC seems to imply that this is literal as "the skull was forcibly searched for eyes." I got the impression that literally lining your brain literally how you became closer to the Great Ones as the Amygdala (the boss) has eyes on the inside of its head, which you can see either when it shoots lasers at you or when it vomits on you, I forget which one.
After studying Bloodbornes lore for many years now, the big take away I have is to show the folly of man. Between the Crimes of Byrgenworth, and the Totalitarian, Genocidal Healing Church, I think it really shows what mankind is capable of in the pursuit of knowledge. I think Laurence diverged from Byrgenworth with totally good intentions, but his belief in the blood and his ability to control it were fatally flawed. And I think that once the church was established, the power it had over people got to his head and of course, he fell like everyone else to beast hood, losing his humanity in the process.
Holy shit! That theory of the bloodlickers blew my mind! I never humored the thought they were cainhurst nobles. I just assumed they were pthumdrians who found their way out of the chalices. But, that makes so much sense if they truly are cainhurst nobles. Cainhurst knights would journey into the chalices, so that explains why there would be bloodlickers down there as well. Golly good show.
Valtr is the character I would associate closer to Solaire than Alfred. The choice of helm is an obvious giveaway, but I believe that Solaire and Valtr share a voice actor as well.
Fungo, have you ever thought about doing a video detailing the different types of beasts? That is something I would like more info on, such as questioning why there are different types of beasts in the game. We have the alien like beasts...the insect type beasts...the vampiric type beasts of Cainhurst...and the fur type beasts. I've always wondered why this is, as there has to be a reason. What do you think?
With all the reference to Blood, you barely made the connection to Dracula.. The Cainhurst intro is a dead give away... But I guess the timing was just right, and a perfect opportunity to include the reference in your video.. I'm subbing.. you're great
By far, so far (and i am constantly on the prowl for a nice and entertaining lore video) the most intuative and original lore composition, very informative and logicalally contrasted! THANK YOU SIR SUBBED
Concerning the connection between Pthumerians and Vilebloods, I feel like their 'blood magic' is a connection. Queen Yharnam uses strong blood magic during the PC's fight with her. The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst also uses blood magic via his sword. Lady Maria--who is from Cainhurst--also uses blood magic during her fight with the PC. The only other character to use blood magic is Brador, using Bloodletter, however since he and Maria were both protectors of the Healing Church's dark secret, it's possible he also had a connection to Cainhurst, or at least a connection to Lady Maria. I don't think it's obvious, but I think the argument can be made that there is something unique about blood magic in the game, and it seems to originate from the Pthumerians. My theory is that whatever blood the nobles of Cainhurst got a hold of was of the same stock that granted Queen Yharnam her blood magic abilities. Cainhurst nobles also are known to have pale skin and fair hair, a sort of vampirish look that Pthumerians also share. Idk, there's no overt connections I suppose, but Soulsborne games are all about piecing the puzzles together from the scattered clues. I think there're enough clues here to make a decent connection to these respective parties, imho.
Dude, I love your videos, and this one takes the cake. I totally had similar thoughts when running Alfred's questline. I originally wanted to be a Vileblood, cuz it sounded cool, but I ended up donning the Executioners garb and Rune, after hearing Alfred's lines and getting infected (no pun intended) with his passion
Anyone else notice how Castle Cainhurst is the only place in Yharnam with normal looking statuary? Everywhere else has those creepy sculptures, even in the churches and cathedrals
7:19 You say that Laurence literally cannot be the Bloodletting Beast because we fight it earlier, well the same can be said for all the main game bosses that reappear in the chalices. I don’t think the chalices obey the laws of time. How else would we be able to fight Ebrieatas in Isz even though she’s currently either dead or residing beneath the Grand Cathedral. Laurence in the DLC was retconned into a Cleric Beast reskin, that much is obvious, but everything else points to Laurence being the Bloodletting Beast. For one take a look at Laurence’s skull in the real world, then look at the Bloodletting Beast’s head. I don’t know about you but, they look remarkably similar to each other. The Japanese name Lord of Beast Blood could also refer to him as the master of blood, like you said. Also, if the Chalices don’t obey time like I suggested, this could explain why we fight both the regular and decapitated version, and why it’s missing it’s head at all. This is just my take on the whole thing, but basically what I’m getting at is Laurence was originally the Bloodletting Beast, then From retconned it and made him a Cleric Beast.
"Upon entering the castle you'll find many mosquito-like monsters" DUDE. WHAT MOSQUITOES HAVE YOU SEEN? I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE MOSQUITOES LOOK LIKE THAT.
Honestly sometimes i think people overlook the depth in characters' voice acting in the soulsborne games. Everytime Alfred says "Vilebloods", you can hear the strong distaste and resentment for them and the deep lament he feels while talking about his lost master who gave his life to keep them from being tainted.
I'm late but can I say. I just met an enemy. I saw a message saying enemy ahead and just started hitting him. With my cane I didn't even get a foot close to him before I had hit him enough to turn on me.
I thought it looked like they killed themselves too. the cuts are all straight and clean. Maybe that's how they became ghost-like, as an attempt to combat the executioners?
Killing themselves would pointless as they can still be hit by weapons, but maybe that wasn't what they were trying to do. Just like all the other monsters or people as Djura says they can still come back to life if you reload the area, maybe the point was to become "ghost-like" so that they can come back from death.
I quite like Alfred. He's kind, well mannered, and clearly driven by Logarius' beliefs. While his apparent madness after killing Annalise can be misunderstood as him manipulating you, madness is pretty common in and around Yharnam, so I actually expected it. And you can't say he doesn't do anything for you in return. He gives you Fire Paper, something you otherwise can't get receive until you get a very high-ranking Hunter badge, and that's just for agreeing to cooperation, which seems to both rare and frowned upon by other Hunters. Then he can be summoned to fight the Bloodstarved Beast and Cleric Beast. To us those bosses aren't hard, but in Bloodborne they're huge and horrifyingly strong monsters. Then he gives you the Wheel Badge, something coveted and reserved for the highly zealous Executioners. That shows a lot of trust. Alfred clearly has devoted his entire life to Logarius and the Executioner's beliefs, so he's not giving that to you as a careless trinket. His death is sad, but fulfilling. He sacrificed himself to become a martyr. His hatred of the Vilebloods isn't unfounded either, if we're honest. The Vileblood Knights took pride in the brutal butchering of beasts, whereas Yharnam Hunters seemed to despise it, hence the refining of weapons from savage Beast Cutters to elegant Threaded Canes. And then Annalise's own Guard are straight up murders who go out in the night to kill people of strong blood (most likely other Hunters and Blood Saints) so they can collect disgusting Blood Dregs for their Undead Queen to consume. I just can't feel bad for them. In the end, Alfred fulfilled his chosen purpose in life, and I'm glad he died satisfied and happy.
Its good you go so deep into the depth of the lore. You definitely earned the subscribe. There are few who give so much time, effort, and research into a video. Thanks for doing this. Its awesome.
The narrator refers to the place where you encounter Alfred the second time as "unmissable". I actually managed to miss it, and the entire section that follows. Yet I still managed to get to the Forbidden Forest, Byrgenwerth and so on, so my question is; Did I do an impossible?
Wouldn't the fact that you have to take Analise's flesh to the alter where a great one resides be evidence that there is indeed a connection to the vile-bloods and the great ones..? After all, she can't mend herself, but requires that you take her flesh to that particular altar.
Bloodborne seems like perfection to me, the world, the story/NPC, the fighting etc it was hard but not unfair you could learn how to fight and win. Dark souls 3 however seems different to DS1, it's like they have tried to copy the combat from Bloodborne without much changes to the player. Enemies hit hard and fast, by the time your stamina is back up they have swung again, I have only yet found 2 enemies I can stagger the rest just deplete your health in 2-3 hits. Hopefully they can sort it out because I had high hopes for DS3
Fungo you make the beast videos out there & you name is just perfect lol you really make 45mins go by like 5mins lol & it's a joy to watch or even just listen to. Keep up the amazing work buddy much love
I like to think the people of Cainhurst were descended from the makers of the labyrinth. they may no longer have been guardians of the old ones, but would have still been upset when it was found and the blood taken. bygenwerth was more interested in eyes, so the cainhurst people wouldn't have hated them so much. but then the healing church split off and got addicted to the blood. I like to think the cainhurst people were actual noble, and preserved the old ways. but because the old ones and the old ways are incomprehensible and foreign to mortals they simply appeared vile to others, like the church. it didn't seem like the people of cainhurst turn to beasts, which suggests their blood source is different. it gets a bit confusing figuring out who is drinking what blood, but it could just be that it is the same blood source of the old ones but that the people of cainhurst could use it no problem, because they were descendants of the people that made the labyrinth, not just normal humans. the ancient cainhursts brought normal humans under their wing, but the vilebloods thus created became addicted to their blood just as people got addicted to the churchs blood.
>playing the moonlight butterfly soundtrack at the start >No consideration for the people who get horrendous flahsbacks from it You, sir, are destined to become Hollow.
***** I'm not basing it off of hours but it shows how much less of a game ds3 is. Dark souls 3 lack the content of bloodborne and the difficulty. Dark souls bosses are super easy. It took me one try for all except the old king, dragon slayer and the final boss. As an experienced hardcore souls veteran, I was super disappointed. I asked my other souls fanatic and he said he was also disappointed with the length. The bonfire locations are horrible. There are too many. They catered to the people who complain about the difficulty. Why can't we have just one per area. You die half way in well you'll learn not the make that mistake again. In ds3 there could be more than five bonefires in one area. Bloodborne had one lamp per area. So be careful. The game is dark souls 3 is disconnected. Bloodborne fells like ds1. Shortcuts matter in bloodborne while in dark souls 3 there are enough bonfires for you to never ever need a shortcut. The only useful Shortcuts to me were in lothric castle. Bloodborne fells connected like ds1, ds3 feels like ds2 but with better environments. Dark souls 2 has better enimies. This is not about personal opinion this is pure fact. I'm not being biasd I'm in new game plus 4 in ds3 and new game plus 8 in bloodborne. I know the games and Bloodborne is a much better game. This fight needs to happen as it shows Misaki Cleary couldn't handle two games. And the weapon changed in bloodborne have real advantage. The longer axe is better for many enimies. The cane changing to a whip making range and speed better. Holy blade being small and fast for small enimies, big for big enimies. Bloodbornes weapon changes have a real impact during gameplay. After all that bloodborne has much better world design and much better combat.
***** also I'd like to add healing where in dark souls you can never run out of estus meaning you can use five and have five when you respawn. In bloodborne you have to keep track of your viles because you could easily run out and respawn with nothing at all. Same with bullets.
This is my favorite channel on UA-cam. Your Bloodborne series are awesome! Very informative and very fun to watch. You're doing a great job, Fungo! Keep it up! And please do more DS3 videos.
Nice one, Fungo! I love all these Bloodborne related videos. This game was GOTY 2015 for me, after the massive letdown of MGSV and Fallout, Bloodborne had no competition in my book (I don't really care about The Witcher, never got into it). Really looking forward to your Dark Souls 3 related videos (especially the Fungo Review), I bought it a couple of days ago and I'm loving every second of it.
+Mr. Painless85 MGSV and Fallout 4 were undoubtedly the two hypest games that were some of the most mediocre of the year. I did not believe it was possible.
Did the nobles eat their men ? All the ghosts appear to be women. With the marriage proposal being refused and suggesting it would end your life, and with the blood splatter in front of the queen being mostly on the side of the empty chair, it just make me think she would do things to you that involve sucking. Your blood. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws tho, then again straws is exactly what she would need in that situation cos the mask wouldn't help, perhaps the mask is even put on her to insure she wouldn't eat someone again. Can you even propose her if you play as a woman ? There are some men in the castle, maybe some of the servants are, I dunnow yet it wouldn't matter since they seem to be characterized as being worthless. But the gargoyles definitely are men. And they're not within the walls of the castle, act in a more sneaky way by trying to blend in with the environment. They are very skinny compared to the bloated ticks (are those all women ?) also outside. Are they acting this way because they were fleeing from the women inside the castle ? The wikia calls them "lost children of antiquity", which is hard to make sense of (especially given I've never played the game and only watched wlakthrough therefore never really delved deeply in the lore myself) but could it simply mean that they were patronized by the women of the castle as simple feeble minds whose time was past ? Maybe them being lost is more of a way to say that they got lost, fled, for the ones that didn't ran and hide got eaten, perhaps even willingly given how the queen makes no real secret that marriage would be quite a hazard for your health and doesn't expects you to be surprised by it. I think Cainhurst was a society of strong independent women that needed no men. Tho honestly I'm just throwing out these ideas out without much thought put into them and no idea where to go from there.
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I always assumed that people in Yharnam cover their eyes not simply as symbolic meaning to Willem, but also to try to hide if their pupils have collapsed, which implies that they're close to turning into beasts. It just became an accepted social norm that everyone's got bandages and whatnot over their eyes, and they all just say it's some tribute and whatnot, but it's moreso to keep themselves safe from hunters noticing the most obvious sign of beasthood.
They also literally put eyes on the inside of their brain. So it's definitely not a figurative thing. I'm not sure why he thinks they are just being figurative. There are numerous sources talking about eyes actually being put into skulls.
Also some people would cover their eyes to keep from seeing the great ones after to many insights ( I think )
I thought of them going mad from from the blood so the town's folk and some hunters gouged their eyes out to stop seeing
Maybe you're right.
When we talk to Gilbert in the center of Yharnam, we realize that he is sick and coughs everytime we talk to him. Later, after defeating Vicar Amelia, he's worse than before and asks the gods for help. And finally, in the blood moon stage, we found him fully turned into a beast with a bandage covering his eyes.
The suspicious Beggar in the forbbiden woods is found feeding upon corpses and if we attack him, he turns into a beast. He also has bandages covering his eyes.
@@cardboardbox5704 Gascoigne covers his eyes, and then literally transforms into a beast in his boss battle. I think word got around that the beastly eyes is what caused people to be pulled into the Hunter's Nightmare.
when you realise all the books in bloodborne are titled "How to Pick Up Fair Maidens"
Jesus Sancen Other ones are also titled "Alchemy" which interests me.
When you realize 66 people think ALL the books are titled "How to Pick up Fair Maidens"
Joe Mama Because those are the only books that matter. Plus you can practice it on the doll if you know what I mean.
Multiream what do you mean?
@@lordmegatron4789,
You're in the know, right?
Alfred's berserk monologue is by far the best part of this game.
Honolulu Joe "All the insides on the outside and the outside exposed!"
Strength Beyond wot
I often repeat it to myself for no reason
I love the roar emote you get as well my favorite in the game by far followed by make contact
definitely best voice actor
I understand the Queen and why she doesn't want to marriage. She is immortal, you are not. Even though with that compliment you can see that she is "happy" that you love her, she would rather not feel the pain that will come when you actually die.
Zero guess who's getting her womb ready for some great one meat
XD yeah let´s go through every step of the way like Fungo, then get reborn as a great one and rape Annalise, there you go everyone is happy, she got her inhuman blood baby and we got to bang the vampire queen.
Nah, moonbro keeps ya alive forever in the hunter's dream.
@@alexkecskemeti5727 I assume you didn't get the secret ending?
@@superaids3849,
It's not grape if you like it. 😏
Oh damn, that sounds really bad out of context.
church = werewolves cainhurst = vampires
folklore says they are enemies
wanderingbufoon the townspeople are werewolves. The church are more of different types of beasts
The Holy Church had a werewolf as their greatest ally (Van Hellsing) and the Vilebloods (vampires) had their greatest ally (Dracula) and as the legend says Van Hellsing (werewolf) was the mortal enemy to Dracula (vampire)
TEAM JACOB FTW!!!
How did I not get this??
I didn’t get any vampire vibes. Everyone in the game craves blood
12:29 in Japanese version, his reaction translates a bit more like “You will betray me, as well” thats an implication someone else had betrayed him already. Laurence is the first vicar too.. he left Willem to start the healing church, so i highly doubt he’s responsible for the Vilebloods too.
Who else agrees that the lore and story behind the game itself is amazing
me bruh . this is by far my most favorite game. it's lore is kinda similar to berserk's tower of conviction arc
I wouldn't say the story of the game itself is amazing, but rather the story put together by fans. Even if they are correct, the game very rarely having anything to confirm them is a flaw in my opinion (granted that the DLC did possibly confirm some).
I think the Souls games would be much better (atleast in terms of characters, lore and story) if they had an in-game info page similar to Nioh. Essentially having the lore notes of the fanmade Wikis be part of the actual game.
Oh and they really should just animate NPC's faces when they talk. Why even bother having them blink?
It has to be laziness, but even then, I'd rather they'd just cover everybody's face.
(and know about the theory that it's like that on purpose, so that the slight facial movement of the Doll is more meaningful. I still think it's just embarrassing in a 2015 game).
Timppa 3 I couldn't agree more , not having facial animation in a AAA game is just ridiculous.
Are we really more concerned with realism when it comes to a game this dope though? No is the answer because you still love it
@@timoyr2954 man you could easily ignore them not having facial animation. It’s not important or anything. Just simply don’t care about it😂
Technically Annalise is speaking in Middle English, the type of English Shakespeare used in most of his plays and poems, but true Old English is a monster all its own to read and comprehend
Actually, Shakespeare's English is actually Early Modern English. Middle English is the English that the Canterbury Tales were written in.
I love reading Chaucer
@@hedgehatchet3578 I feel stupid for not knowing that.
@@thephantomoftheparadise5666 Old English sounds closer to German. Anglo Saxon language is what they spoke until around the 1400s.
This is good lore... however, there is a possible explanation for the Cainhurst summons you find at the clinic. According to one theory, you, the playable character, are the last survivor of the massacre of the Fishing Hamlet. You were seeking help for an unknown blood condition (possibly due to exposure to Kos) when you arrived at the clinic (beginning of the game). You possessed the summons at the beginning--that's why the Vilebloods are interested in your character, because of the mystery of the Fishing Hamlet and the possible power of Kos.
This also explains why you are chosen to be the Good Hunter, in order to--in one sense--redeem Gehrman and the other hunters who participated in the slaughter of the Hamlet inhabitants. One clue indicating this might be true is the 'Lone Survivor' class you can choose at the beginning of the game: 'lone survivor of a lost hamlet' is the description, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not sure what the blood minister did to make our character lose his/her memory prior to encountering the Messengers at the beginning of the game--maybe Gehrman wanted our memory to get zapped so we would be willing to redeem him? I look at the game as an adventure to stop the Great Ones from ruining mankind, and a puzzle to figure out what happened to our Good Hunter in the first place. Anyway, this is just a theory, but I like it, personally.
@Aedion Ashryver a Game theory
Thanks for watching
Omg this is the exactly theory i have for my oc. I'm glad im not the only one who interpreted it that way. This game has such deep lore you can understand it in multiple ways.
That explains the executioner outside the clinic
It makes me wonder how amazing the cut content must have been, like when Gehrman had a close relationship with Cainhurts nobles (and possible met Maria there) since he was the traitor Alfred spoke of or how the Dark beasts originated from Loran
Dang Miyazaky give us a sequel or something
I don't think the Great Ones are as malicious as you seem to believe.
Ebrites does literally nothing, only attacking in self defense. The Moon Presence's focus seems to be on the other Great Ones. The Brain was captured and tortured by Mensis. Only three Lesser Amygdala's are hostile, two serve as Gate Guardians, and one just lasers everything. Oedon's off being Formless. All and all, the Great Ones (apart from one asshole Lesser Amygdala) don't display any real aggression or malevolence to humanity.
Now, you could make an argument the Great Ones are indirectly harmful to humanity.
This might be one of my favorite bloodborne theories ❤
Queen Anelise isn't speaking in 3rd person, dude. The "we", "us" and"our" which she uses is referred to as the "royal we", the "royal us" and the "royal our". And it's traditionally used by Kings and Queens to refer to themselves. Even the current Queen of England makes use of these phrases when referring to herself. Didn't you think it was strange that these words were written in capital letters in the dialogue? Even though they appeared in the middle of the sentence? It was a dead giveaway.
so i refer to myself as we and our, does that make me royalty or insane?
No that makes you an idiot. Only Kings and Queens use it. Its simple English dude.
SpartanHighKing14 it is still 3rd person perspective.
No it isnt, its a proper noun, like He. It stands for, God and I, or The state and I
Also all the statues. I felt like they are were her crowd.
I don't think Laurance was the Cainhurst scholar Alfred was alluding to. Given that he was the founder of the healing church (the first vicar), it is unlikely the church would make a mortal enemy out of his studies. Additionally, Lady Maria's weapon and armor descriptions allude to a time when hunters from Cainhurst trained under Gerham, suggesting the nobles were not antagonized in the early days of the church.
The japanese original game also has willem say "you also wish to betray me" so there was most likely a different scholar going to cainhurst
That manner of speaking of Annalis is called Majestic Plural or Royal "we" which is common among those born to the crown due to them being isolated
There was an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire which use this manner
i wish you could propose to anybody
marry the chapel dweller
make his dreams come true
What about lady Maria/the doll
Arianna? Adella?
I wish I could hug the dweller
@@saphiwrath the dweller was a genuine good person..
Marry Alfred. C'mon, every Soulsborne game needs a good Bromance.
I reckon Alfred killed himself because either a) lolmartyrdom or b) the wiki mentions his pupils are starting to collapse, so it might have been that he recognised beasthood coming and chose to die as a human after doing what he came to do.
Schemilix, His pupils aren't collapsing though. He just has green eyes. Don't always listen to the bullshit any random puts on the wiki.
I think he killed himself to become a martyr
I thought it might be because of the possibility of tainting his own blood by getting covered in Queen Analise's blood. IDK, he wears the cone thing on his head and is fully clothed so I doub't he's directly touching it. It's just what came to mind at first. Achieving martyrdom seems more "obvious" (to the extent it can be in these games).
He killed himself because his job was done
@@lucas-xf7rc it does seem more legit he chose martyrdom, I mean what else did he have to live for, plus I mean after that it's just "guess I'll just hang around in a nightmare I can't wake up from"
Random thought. People say Tesla, or whatever his name is, was crazy for saying we could use the sun for limitless power. It's 2018 and we have solar-powered housing. He wasn't crazy.
PRAISE
THE
SUN
He wasn't but can you check from what time is Tesla s from, them you understand why people did not believe him hen he was alive.
The world could be really different today.
He was a man ahead of his time.
True and we also have solar panels so yee
Well he wanted to marry a pigeon so....
I really like this video. However seems a bias was towards liking the executioners, I prefer vilebloods.
The church messes up and someone takes blood to Cainhurst, not knowing better they drink it and the answer is to form the Executioners. A group of fanatics who never question the church but are quick to destroy any who do. Executioners go to Cainhurst and their answer is to literally destroy everyone (infected or not) there and obliterate the culture. Mirroring that of which happened to Old Yharnam.
Also Alfred hardly knows any of the inner workings of the church, but hates the Vileboods because the church tells him to. Proceeds to pretend to know what they stand for, when he doesn't even understand his own organization beyond rudimentary knowledge.
Also it seems that you thought the description of the Executioner Set was something Logarius often said. However, to me it reads more like a death poem, I believe they are a bit more common in Japan - emperors there would sometimes write them. Sounds like something you would more so reflect on after having done something you didn't want to but believed was right.
But I probably have my own bias as well. Thanks
Vilebloods aren't the good guys though
The executioners are fanatics, as is Alfred if you let him go 'indulge himself' at cainherst
But the vilebloods are still corrupt nobles and vampiric beasts that are greedy and care only about their Queens blood and blood dregs
But you don't know that the Vilebloods did anything wrong. They were the ones that were slaughtered for receicing a gift someone brought them (some say it's the bloody crow, some say it's Maria, who knows, but it's not like the Vilebloods planted a spy to steal it).
The church claims the Vileblood is tainted, but you don't see any evidence of this either. (Arianna's blood restores stamina, Adella's restores HP, but who knows if the type of exact healing doesn't differ among different individuals, rather than church vs cainhurst?) Also, if we're talking about tainted, it seems like neither blood is able to escape the beastly scourge to begin with, so the Old Blood is tainted regardless of which faction uses it.
The church and executioners in general are the bad guys, greedily wanting ascension and killing everyone or everything in their way, along with the massacre at the Hamlet and the choir experimenting on orphans, etc. I tend to see Cainhurst merely as a political rival that they wanted to get rid of, especially since someone brought them some Old Blood. It seems more likely that they didn't want to share, rather than their propaganda that everyone at Cainhurst is evil and them having some old blood will taint the church's own (although it's a good story to feed to devoted simpletons like Alfred).
Settle it with a duel. No blood vials or gems.
Both sides are bad I don’t see why anyone would be defending Cainhurst/Vilebloods. They both want accession the church by over indulging in the old blood/preforming cruel experiments. Cainhurst by hunting down those they don’t have even know just for blood dregs to give to the queen. Even when the other nobles were still alive they weren’t great people evident by the Executioner’s Gloves.
"One of the secret treasures hidden in Cainhurst."
"The gloves of an executioner from a faraway land."
"Passed from executioner father to executioner son, these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood."
"It is said that the nobles found immeasurable delight in the dances of these vengeful specters."
@@quinnholloway5400 yes. But the claim made in the video is that the executioners are the one purely good faction. Which is just.. how could anyone come to that conclusion? They attacked first and slaughtered everyone, not just the nobles. Hunter of hunters is the only good faction, imo. For obvious reasons
Annalise doesn't speak in third person. She uses the "Royal We."
Rather than Ebrietas being discovered and brought to the cavern beneath the cathedral, wouldn't it seem more likely she was just found there and the Church built the cavern around her? It makes sense when you take into account the Isz Chalice is found there and the fact that the area is already cavernous, much like a good portion of the Pthumerian Ruins. It wouldn't be too absurd to think the Alter of Despair is the likely entrance to Isz. When you look at it that way, she being the source of the blood just seems more like a satisfying conclusion. And to not even remotely sound sarcastic, can you honestly imagine the Church not only transporting a giant alien through town but the Rom-like alter as well? Surely someone would of taken notice. Taken all of this into account, it seems more plausible Ebrietas was simply discovered exactly where we Hunters find her.
"Oh the pale skin in the moonlight......." *FAP* *FAP* *FAP*
Gayyy
There must be NOODLES for us to share
The "I fed you boob to the corpse of a spider" part killed me! You have such top notch writing!
Master Willem:
I know everything about the gods and know how to not get screwed and become a cleric beast.
Better be vague to my subordinates before i leave tho, they can go to hell.
I gotta say, I expected this to be just another lore video. The comedic way that you presented this was phenomenal and I watched every minute of it. Thanks for making my day!
Excellent video, great humor. Bloodborne has the best story From Software has created imo.
With all of these DS3 lores coming out, I still can't get enough Bloodborne, even if I already know the story. Good video dude, well done. _o|
Me too, this game has me memorized.
+A Certain Anime Theory Making Girl You mean mesmerized?
+Mr. Painless85 Yup! Stupid autocorrect...
+Qrow Bleu DS3 sucked compared to earlier games.
+XmarcX92 Dude, what are smoking?
12:05 That sound you made at that part caught me all the way off guard. lmao
hey, i just met you
frenzy makes me craaazy
but heres a ring i found sitting in a tomb inside a dungeon made by a dead civilisation
so say yes maybe?
Cainhurst Maybe ?
One of my favorite games of all time and the lore has a lot to do with that
Bloodbourne dating sim confirmed.
Time to read up on all of those "how to pick up fair maidens" in the game.
These lore videos are *WAY* more in depth than Vaati's. Way more real world connections and references. The Nikola Tesla comparison was genius. I've put well over 3000 hours into this game and thanks to Fungo, Im somehow still learning even more.
Scythe-Master Inc. holy shit dude
3000 holy shit, I don't think I have this much game time in all of the games I've ever played in my life
Remas S ikr?ive played nearly 600 hours in 9 months.this guy played 3000 in 2 years....
You played Bloodborne for an average of 5 hours every day for approximately 1 year and 7 months?
Ok maybe 2500 hours is more likely but ya. Some people are addicted to FPS games, im addicted to Fromsoft games.
Why are the vilebloods and healing church enemies exactly? Seems they were just trying to accomplish roughly the same thing. Were the healing church just not able to bear the fact that another organization could have been more powerful if left unchecked?
AndrewLuis CrespoDeMoura Seems like it, but the Healing Church is the very reason why the Vilebloods exist in the first place. Or at least Laurence is to blame, since by all evidence given he's the one who brought the "forbidden blood" back to Cainhurst.
AndrewLuis CrespoDeMoura The healing church sees them as a threat because they are attempting to birth a child of blood. Also the family linked to the pthumerians and are gaining power so the church doesn't like that. If that makes any sense
I think the Vilebloods were a scapegoat of sorts. When the church started turning to beasts, I suspect they targeted the Vilebloods as an act of "righteous fury."
It's very possible
Kenni Cumberbatch Not necessarily. The knights in the tombs is evidence enought to prove that the Vilebloods were the first group after the Pthumerians, so perhaps they were the first to find the "Old Blood". Laurence appearance and the establishment of the Healing Church was way later. So he doesn't have anything to do with it. Also, the executioners garb will tell you that Logarius is way back in the timeline. Why? Well because the attire was the one that the church took inspiration to make a holy shawl. "later became the basis for all Church attire, with its heavy draping of Holy Shawl". So the Executioners were also a group that was founded way back. Cheers.
32:05 "I just met you and this is crazy" Omg. A blast to the past. "Here's my number, so call me maybe"
Jesus! Alfred lasted an hour?! Good on him!
The good blood guided his way :)
I think you were pretty spot on about most of this. However I do think you mistook Lawrence as the one who Alfred references as the byrgenworth scholar that betrayed willem to bring the old blood to cainhurst. While I do think it's plausible, I don't think it's likely. For instance, why would Laurence give them one strain of the old blood establish the "Healing Church" with a different strain and then create the executioners to eliminate them? It just doesn't make too much sense.
Also, the blood lickers outside cainhurst aren't cainhurstians. They likely showed up after the battle that took place in castle cainhurst. If you go into some of the deeper chalice dungeons you'll notice that sometimes after killing strong enemies or even a large number in one room that one (a blood licker) will appear. I'm not sure where these things originate from, but they seem to be similar to the carrion crows in that they definitely do over indulge in blood themselves.
John Dibble he didn't betray byrgenworth.... he just left it... which willem saw as a betrayal. And not sure why you're telling me the obvious about logarious....
Well it's possible that Laurence went to cainhurst to get the healing church established as a place of power since cainhurst were probably the ones in power at the time
I think the blood lickers are Pthumerians and cainhurst must have some connection to them through their bloodline, they're trying to do what the Pthumerians did, birth a child of blood
Oh hell i never thought of how the cold temps would drastically slow decomp for lagaurius making him and the vileblood area likely to be even older then they allready seem!
You without a doubt make some of the best Soulsborne lore videos on the web! I love the content. Keep it up dude
Alfred, my boy.
Shoulda burnt the entire castle down on top of her brutalized corpse. Made it virtually impossible for ant means to rejuvenate or resurrect her.
Kinky
i don't feel like he is like solaire at all. he is just very Obsessive, almost brainwashed. I feel this is the game's portrayal of obsessive religious people. and he dons a mask of a righteous man. when he talks about the other "religion" his tone changes. and when he kills Annalise his "mask" falls off. showing someone who has become something worse than the thing he hunted. ironic somehow.
I agree. Alfred doesn't seem to agree with any ideology but blindly follows the "execution" of the vilesbloods.
I think Alfred is highly inspired by Farneze from Berserk, who blindly follows Mozgus in his zealot quest in irradicating heretics, in this case, the Vilebloods.
The guy was secretly in love with Annalise, I could tell. His bitch ass was rejected as her suitor. I know it. That is why he is all "that's what you get, bitch!" when he thinks he killed her, and the utter brutality and madness of the kill. Crushed by a fucking wheel into a pulp? C'mon man, that lady is fine as hell. He wanted to become the male heir and the father of the Child of Blood. I swear, the entire Executioner's were born out of nothing more for a disdane for the Vileblood's (the name given to them by the Executioner's, their real name is the The Noble Bloodline of Cainhurst) anyway, the guy shows the worst of a religious zealot and a phony. Honestly, more of a false prophet.
HIs unaging looks is also only explained by the fact that he pertook of the blood.
alfred is better a friend than an enemy...
umm, im not sure if you are aware that Alfred uses you to get to his own goals. he couldn't give a damn about the "friendship" between himself and a hunter.
Annalise’s soft and concerned rejections and forgiveness bring me warm feelings
She just likes you so much that you kill her brutally and then bring her back and she doesn’t even hold a grudge or anything
Why is she so nice too aaaaaaa
Are you sure that to "line his brain with eyes" was figurative? The Accursed Brew from the DLC seems to imply that this is literal as "the skull was forcibly searched for eyes." I got the impression that literally lining your brain literally how you became closer to the Great Ones as the Amygdala (the boss) has eyes on the inside of its head, which you can see either when it shoots lasers at you or when it vomits on you, I forget which one.
Thank you for these videos! Too many people have a harsh tone for bloodborne videos but you make them enjoyable
After studying Bloodbornes lore for many years now, the big take away I have is to show the folly of man. Between the Crimes of Byrgenworth, and the Totalitarian, Genocidal Healing Church, I think it really shows what mankind is capable of in the pursuit of knowledge. I think Laurence diverged from Byrgenworth with totally good intentions, but his belief in the blood and his ability to control it were fatally flawed. And I think that once the church was established, the power it had over people got to his head and of course, he fell like everyone else to beast hood, losing his humanity in the process.
I wish I can have Fungo voice as my character
+Courier EXE Host of Embers I know... his voice is literally mesmerizing.
Xtrendence I just want it so I can how him say "You look like a nice guy." To anyone he meets.
Alfred is one of the Top 10 DS husbandos. His hair is dreamy.
OMG Bro this ending was so hilarious. Great work! RIP Freddy
dude this is pure gold your comedy in this video is definitly the best in this series
Holy shit! That theory of the bloodlickers blew my mind! I never humored the thought they were cainhurst nobles. I just assumed they were pthumdrians who found their way out of the chalices. But, that makes so much sense if they truly are cainhurst nobles. Cainhurst knights would journey into the chalices, so that explains why there would be bloodlickers down there as well. Golly good show.
Valtr is the character I would associate closer to Solaire than Alfred. The choice of helm is an obvious giveaway, but I believe that Solaire and Valtr share a voice actor as well.
Damn! Fungo, you really knocked one out of the park with this one. Love this video :)
I love the comedy you put in your videos it gives me a little knowledge and a good laugh thanks for the videos man
Fungo, have you ever thought about doing a video detailing the different types of beasts?
That is something I would like more info on, such as questioning why there are different types of beasts in the game. We have the alien like beasts...the insect type beasts...the vampiric type beasts of Cainhurst...and the fur type beasts. I've always wondered why this is, as there has to be a reason. What do you think?
The second I heard Alfred speak I knew he was going to be this universe's Solaire.
31 minutes onwards made this video one of my favourite adaptation of Alfreds story
The comedy towards the end was awesome
I never saw Alfred as a good guy. Just kinda mad and obsessed
Dude you are doing a great job with all this lore thanks!
With all the reference to Blood, you barely made the connection to Dracula.. The Cainhurst intro is a dead give away... But I guess the timing was just right, and a perfect opportunity to include the reference in your video.. I'm subbing.. you're great
No one:
Literally no one:
Fungo while talking to Alfred: “Oh, *do* go on! ~”
Love these videos, Fungo. You're always such a wealth of knowledge.
By far, so far (and i am constantly on the prowl for a nice and entertaining lore video) the most intuative and original lore composition, very informative and logicalally contrasted! THANK YOU SIR SUBBED
Iakov Kurekhin u hot
Concerning the connection between Pthumerians and Vilebloods, I feel like their 'blood magic' is a connection. Queen Yharnam uses strong blood magic during the PC's fight with her. The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst also uses blood magic via his sword. Lady Maria--who is from Cainhurst--also uses blood magic during her fight with the PC. The only other character to use blood magic is Brador, using Bloodletter, however since he and Maria were both protectors of the Healing Church's dark secret, it's possible he also had a connection to Cainhurst, or at least a connection to Lady Maria. I don't think it's obvious, but I think the argument can be made that there is something unique about blood magic in the game, and it seems to originate from the Pthumerians.
My theory is that whatever blood the nobles of Cainhurst got a hold of was of the same stock that granted Queen Yharnam her blood magic abilities. Cainhurst nobles also are known to have pale skin and fair hair, a sort of vampirish look that Pthumerians also share. Idk, there's no overt connections I suppose, but Soulsborne games are all about piecing the puzzles together from the scattered clues. I think there're enough clues here to make a decent connection to these respective parties, imho.
Dude, I love your videos, and this one takes the cake. I totally had similar thoughts when running Alfred's questline. I originally wanted to be a Vileblood, cuz it sounded cool, but I ended up donning the Executioners garb and Rune, after hearing Alfred's lines and getting infected (no pun intended) with his passion
Cainhurst castle is my favorite location in the game. It's just so atmospheric.
Anyone else notice how Castle Cainhurst is the only place in Yharnam with normal looking statuary? Everywhere else has those creepy sculptures, even in the churches and cathedrals
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You say that Laurence literally cannot be the Bloodletting Beast because we fight it earlier, well the same can be said for all the main game bosses that reappear in the chalices. I don’t think the chalices obey the laws of time. How else would we be able to fight Ebrieatas in Isz even though she’s currently either dead or residing beneath the Grand Cathedral. Laurence in the DLC was retconned into a Cleric Beast reskin, that much is obvious, but everything else points to Laurence being the Bloodletting Beast. For one take a look at Laurence’s skull in the real world, then look at the Bloodletting Beast’s head. I don’t know about you but, they look remarkably similar to each other. The Japanese name Lord of Beast Blood could also refer to him as the master of blood, like you said. Also, if the Chalices don’t obey time like I suggested, this could explain why we fight both the regular and decapitated version, and why it’s missing it’s head at all.
This is just my take on the whole thing, but basically what I’m getting at is Laurence was originally the Bloodletting Beast, then From retconned it and made him a Cleric Beast.
"Upon entering the castle you'll find many mosquito-like monsters" DUDE. WHAT MOSQUITOES HAVE YOU SEEN? I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE MOSQUITOES LOOK LIKE THAT.
Eddison stole the idea for the light bulb from tesla
Honestly sometimes i think people overlook the depth in characters' voice acting in the soulsborne games. Everytime Alfred says "Vilebloods", you can hear the strong distaste and resentment for them and the deep lament he feels while talking about his lost master who gave his life to keep them from being tainted.
I'm late but can I say. I just met an enemy. I saw a message saying enemy ahead and just started hitting him. With my cane I didn't even get a foot close to him before I had hit him enough to turn on me.
I did the same
I found this YT due to being interested in the lore, and your videos are great.
Is it not possible that the noble ladies killed themselves? Cause those daggers looked they where used for fighting rather than dinner.
Sellsword Oscar hey dinner is always a battle
I thought it looked like they killed themselves too. the cuts are all straight and clean. Maybe that's how they became ghost-like, as an attempt to combat the executioners?
Killing themselves would pointless as they can still be hit by weapons, but maybe that wasn't what they were trying to do. Just like all the other monsters or people as Djura says they can still come back to life if you reload the area, maybe the point was to become "ghost-like" so that they can come back from death.
would be pointless*
This man be like a ventriloquist. Talking without moving his mouth.
I quite like Alfred. He's kind, well mannered, and clearly driven by Logarius' beliefs. While his apparent madness after killing Annalise can be misunderstood as him manipulating you, madness is pretty common in and around Yharnam, so I actually expected it. And you can't say he doesn't do anything for you in return. He gives you Fire Paper, something you otherwise can't get receive until you get a very high-ranking Hunter badge, and that's just for agreeing to cooperation, which seems to both rare and frowned upon by other Hunters. Then he can be summoned to fight the Bloodstarved Beast and Cleric Beast. To us those bosses aren't hard, but in Bloodborne they're huge and horrifyingly strong monsters.
Then he gives you the Wheel Badge, something coveted and reserved for the highly zealous Executioners. That shows a lot of trust. Alfred clearly has devoted his entire life to Logarius and the Executioner's beliefs, so he's not giving that to you as a careless trinket.
His death is sad, but fulfilling. He sacrificed himself to become a martyr. His hatred of the Vilebloods isn't unfounded either, if we're honest. The Vileblood Knights took pride in the brutal butchering of beasts, whereas Yharnam Hunters seemed to despise it, hence the refining of weapons from savage Beast Cutters to elegant Threaded Canes. And then Annalise's own Guard are straight up murders who go out in the night to kill people of strong blood (most likely other Hunters and Blood Saints) so they can collect disgusting Blood Dregs for their Undead Queen to consume. I just can't feel bad for them.
In the end, Alfred fulfilled his chosen purpose in life, and I'm glad he died satisfied and happy.
Its good you go so deep into the depth of the lore. You definitely earned the subscribe. There are few who give so much time, effort, and research into a video. Thanks for doing this. Its awesome.
The narrator refers to the place where you encounter Alfred the second time as "unmissable". I actually managed to miss it, and the entire section that follows. Yet I still managed to get to the Forbidden Forest, Byrgenwerth and so on, so my question is; Did I do an impossible?
your format of speaking and narrating the event of the game is much like Oxhorn which i like
Aaaah, I feel my Master's hand at work ~ ;D
*Cough*
I liked that. it was hard to invest in at first (length of video in mind) but it was very captivating. great work dude!
Wouldn't the fact that you have to take Analise's flesh to the alter where a great one resides be evidence that there is indeed a connection to the vile-bloods and the great ones..?
After all, she can't mend herself, but requires that you take her flesh to that particular altar.
But maybe the altar can revive any flesh ? It just stays dead, but reverses decay and wounds, except Queen Annalise is not dead
you have propably the best bloodborne content on youtube
Bloodborne seems like perfection to me, the world, the story/NPC, the fighting etc it was hard but not unfair you could learn how to fight and win. Dark souls 3 however seems different to DS1, it's like they have tried to copy the combat from Bloodborne without much changes to the player. Enemies hit hard and fast, by the time your stamina is back up they have swung again, I have only yet found 2 enemies I can stagger the rest just deplete your health in 2-3 hits. Hopefully they can sort it out because I had high hopes for DS3
Nothing and I mean NOTHING is better than checking the time on a lore video and finding there’s more than 40+ minutes left
🥺👉👈 ty 💕
27:15 "return to the queen and give her one" rofl....
Best lore video made for this storyline. Thank You! 🤜🤛
Let's engage in jolly execution!
Fungo you make the beast videos out there & you name is just perfect lol you really make 45mins go by like 5mins lol & it's a joy to watch or even just listen to. Keep up the amazing work buddy much love
I like to think the people of Cainhurst were descended from the makers of the labyrinth. they may no longer have been guardians of the old ones, but would have still been upset when it was found and the blood taken. bygenwerth was more interested in eyes, so the cainhurst people wouldn't have hated them so much. but then the healing church split off and got addicted to the blood. I like to think the cainhurst people were actual noble, and preserved the old ways. but because the old ones and the old ways are incomprehensible and foreign to mortals they simply appeared vile to others, like the church. it didn't seem like the people of cainhurst turn to beasts, which suggests their blood source is different. it gets a bit confusing figuring out who is drinking what blood, but it could just be that it is the same blood source of the old ones but that the people of cainhurst could use it no problem, because they were descendants of the people that made the labyrinth, not just normal humans. the ancient cainhursts brought normal humans under their wing, but the vilebloods thus created became addicted to their blood just as people got addicted to the churchs blood.
*Thou’st art a good FRIEND*
>playing the moonlight butterfly soundtrack at the start
>No consideration for the people who get horrendous flahsbacks from it
You, sir, are destined to become Hollow.
Freddy just really wanted to see the Queens insides. Let's face it, we all do too :)
Always love going back to Fungos lore videos. Hope he does the same for Elden ring.
This and Eileen's quest are my favorites. :3
I didnt know it was 40 min video man your narrating is too damn good good job bro may thr good blood guide your way
Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls 3. Who agrees.
I beat bloodborne in 75 hours, dark souls 3 in 26 hours.
This shows that more weapons and armor doesn't mean anything.
quality of quantity
10 different straight swords what the heck.
+SolidSnake Yeah, I feel Bloodborne was a much more quality game, but Dark Souls 3 is still very good.
***** I don't know if you beat it so I won't use any details except that there are too many bonefires.
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I'm not basing it off of hours but it shows how much less of a game ds3 is. Dark souls 3 lack the content of bloodborne and the difficulty. Dark souls bosses are super easy. It took me one try for all except the old king, dragon slayer and the final boss. As an experienced hardcore souls veteran, I was super disappointed. I asked my other souls fanatic and he said he was also disappointed with the length.
The bonfire locations are horrible. There are too many. They catered to the people who complain about the difficulty. Why can't we have just one per area. You die half way in well you'll learn not the make that mistake again. In ds3 there could be more than five bonefires in one area. Bloodborne had one lamp per area. So be careful. The game is dark souls 3 is disconnected. Bloodborne fells like ds1. Shortcuts matter in bloodborne while in dark souls 3 there are enough bonfires for you to never ever need a shortcut. The only useful Shortcuts to me were in lothric castle.
Bloodborne fells connected like ds1, ds3 feels like ds2 but with better environments. Dark souls 2 has better enimies.
This is not about personal opinion this is pure fact. I'm not being biasd I'm in new game plus 4 in ds3 and new game plus 8 in bloodborne. I know the games and Bloodborne is a much better game. This fight needs to happen as it shows Misaki Cleary couldn't handle two games.
And the weapon changed in bloodborne have real advantage. The longer axe is better for many enimies. The cane changing to a whip making range and speed better. Holy blade being small and fast for small enimies, big for big enimies. Bloodbornes weapon changes have a real impact during gameplay.
After all that bloodborne has much better world design and much better combat.
***** also I'd like to add healing where in dark souls you can never run out of estus meaning you can use five and have five when you respawn. In bloodborne you have to keep track of your viles because you could easily run out and respawn with nothing at all.
Same with bullets.
This is my favorite channel on UA-cam. Your Bloodborne series are awesome! Very informative and very fun to watch. You're doing a great job, Fungo! Keep it up! And please do more DS3 videos.
So what happens if you kill the queen first and left her in pieces then invite Alfred to the castle?
Nice one, Fungo! I love all these Bloodborne related videos. This game was GOTY 2015 for me, after the massive letdown of MGSV and Fallout, Bloodborne had no competition in my book (I don't really care about The Witcher, never got into it).
Really looking forward to your Dark Souls 3 related videos (especially the Fungo Review), I bought it a couple of days ago and I'm loving every second of it.
+Mr. Painless85 MGSV and Fallout 4 were undoubtedly the two hypest games that were some of the most mediocre of the year. I did not believe it was possible.
Did the nobles eat their men ? All the ghosts appear to be women. With the marriage proposal being refused and suggesting it would end your life, and with the blood splatter in front of the queen being mostly on the side of the empty chair, it just make me think she would do things to you that involve sucking. Your blood. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws tho, then again straws is exactly what she would need in that situation cos the mask wouldn't help, perhaps the mask is even put on her to insure she wouldn't eat someone again. Can you even propose her if you play as a woman ?
There are some men in the castle, maybe some of the servants are, I dunnow yet it wouldn't matter since they seem to be characterized as being worthless. But the gargoyles definitely are men. And they're not within the walls of the castle, act in a more sneaky way by trying to blend in with the environment. They are very skinny compared to the bloated ticks (are those all women ?) also outside. Are they acting this way because they were fleeing from the women inside the castle ? The wikia calls them "lost children of antiquity", which is hard to make sense of (especially given I've never played the game and only watched wlakthrough therefore never really delved deeply in the lore myself) but could it simply mean that they were patronized by the women of the castle as simple feeble minds whose time was past ? Maybe them being lost is more of a way to say that they got lost, fled, for the ones that didn't ran and hide got eaten, perhaps even willingly given how the queen makes no real secret that marriage would be quite a hazard for your health and doesn't expects you to be surprised by it.
I think Cainhurst was a society of strong independent women that needed no men. Tho honestly I'm just throwing out these ideas out without much thought put into them and no idea where to go from there.
I like alfred's "change" in character because its not really a change.. he just doesnt show it as well because one itself isnt a enemy of him.
what if you kill annalise and then send Alfred over. What happens then?
Ralix Tanner Test it, and make a video :3
He'll take all credit
You can't kill her.