Sonic Adventure: Cut Content & History [Part 1] | Cut Content
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Sonic Adventure had a long development cycle that started on the Sega Saturn and went through numerous changes and evolutions. From altered maps, changing designs, and internal political strife. Today we explore these!
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Footage Credits:
• Longplay of Sonic Adve...
• Sonic Adventure: Sega ...
• Sonic Jam - Sonic Worl...
• Longplay of NiGHTS int...
• LEGO Ideas Sonic the H...
• Making Dreams Come Tru...
• Sandboarding the Peruv...
• NiGHTS into Dreams HD ...
• SONIC ADVENTURE (Chao ...
• Hollywood Video Histor...
• Dreamcast Launch | 9-9...
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Chapters:
00:49 - Failed Attempt at making a 3D Sonic
02:41 - Saturn Development of Sonic Adventure (Sonic RPG)
04:00 - Sonic Adventure Saturn Early Designs
05:53 - The Many Redesigns of Sonic for Sonic Adventure
07:43 - Dreamcast Development of Sonic Adventure
11:11 - Unvealing and Early Levels of Sonic Adventure
15:03 - Marketing and Release of Sonic Adventure in Japan
16:07 - Changes and Development of the Western Version of Sonic Adventure
19:08 - Marketing and Release of the Western Version of Sonic Adventure
20:45 - The Future of Sonic Team and Extro
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Fix notes:
- Mixed up Yuji Uekawa and Satoshi Okano's art there on which won.
- Accidently mentioned Mayan as Aztec in this (source was calling it that, apologizes)
I remember 9.9.99 I skipped school with my older cousin when he bought the dreamcast we played sonic adventure for like 6 hours that was such an amazing night ❤
6 hrs of Sonic Adventure is pretty damn amazing. Bet you went through much of that in one go?
@@TheObsessiveGamer we watched every cutscene and died a lot but we got to Gamma's story before calling it a night
In case people mistake the "internal politics" you're referring to, both Chris Senn of STI and Yuji Naka deny any objection to using the NiGHTs engine. It was likely scrapped for practical reasons. Naka has stated that the language is very different from the rest of the game they were developing. What really killed X-treme was the third-party POV, which was hired by SEGA to speed things along but didn't know wtf they were doing. They demoed a laggy PC port to the SEGA president without consulting STI, who never got to demo their superior build.
Part of their trip was to Guatemala, to the maya ruins of Tikal in Peten.
Yeah overall was a big trip to several countries
Sonic Adventure is one of my favorite games, but SPIDER GIRL and THE BAT BOY!!?? Omg I love the spider's design, it's so cute!!
I'm more of a Bat Girl fan myself
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I really wonder sometimes if they just merged them together to make Rouge the Bat.
@@TheObsessiveGamerI’m fairly sure they did.
@17:39 It makes more sense that the mini game saids Dr. Robotnik as clearly that is his name and he announces it as such. It would be strange if the doctor would use the bashing nickname in one of his own displays.
Oh I agree, just an interesting point since they were trying to bring Dr. Eggman into the canon now
4:30 Those are the monorail and cannons you can enter on the Egg Carrier.
Ooh good eye
The top review at 19:43 - "Voice acting that is illegal in at least 5 states. Is Tails coming into manhood or learning to go potty?" Had me dying
Dangit! We need a 3rd Adventure style game! By which I mean different characters with different playstyles!
if ‘06 was good it would’ve been considered Adventure 3. I will die on this hill.
@@jonesgarrett100 that’s… actually a valid point…
I dont know if this is a hot take but I want one with just sonic/shadow gameplay, never really liked the other styles
@@keeby4 (me a long time Knuckles fan): how dare you… >:(
(Joking)
Hurts what became of Sonic 06. I like to personally think of Sonic Heroes as Sonic Adventure 3 at this point
"Not Kiryu"
That sounds like something Kiryu would say. You ain't fooling me. The first RGG game was clearly in development for 7 years lol
Sega's long standing plans were clearly in the works since the mid-90s lol
This was entertaining and informative. However, my copy of Sonic Adventure is Limited Edition, and it is not a demo. It's the entire game
we need part 2, this was the only game i played as a kid and these videos are bringing back great memories
Watching this just as i got back from Shibuya is truly something
Yeah I can only imagine how it would have looked with Sonic posters everywhere
Stop and drop everything! Obsessive Gamer uploaded.
It's time at last :D
PEAK JUST DROPPED
Worked hard on it being peak for a peak game at that
@@TheObsessiveGamer nice :D
6:49 okano and uekawa’s designs are mixed up here. the design you’ve attributed to okano was the actual winner and the basis for sonic’s redesign in adventure
Well shit, seems my source had them mixed up. Hah. I'll add that into fix notes soon. Thanks
Exactly, Uekawa was indeed the winner, but the designs are mixed up, the drawing attributed to Okano which is actually from Uekawa was the winner
However Okano has a big influence of SA1 art, while most of them were made by Uekawa himself, as it can be noted from his other concept arts after he won the competition, but also from his shading and rendering style which is so iconic
But Okano still did some pieces for Sonic Adventure aswell, which were later finished by Uekawa with his lineart and rendering, but his work in Sonic Adventure is so simillar to Uekawa's that he's often uncredited for it and all the praises go just to Uekawa, even though both are amazing and did awesome jobs with the game's art
@@ThisisTheUltimate Ah, that would explain why some of Sonic Adventure's art has a bit of a wackier "rubbery" for lack of a better term look compared to Adventure 2 and the Advanced games.
Takashi Lizuka confirmed they took inspiration from Mario 64 and Ocarina of time
No surprise really haha
"Lizuka"?
Not surprising since Sonic was created by speed running NES Mario.
And a lot of Sonic is inspired from Mario and Zelda.
Frontiers was basically a shameless, hollow version of BotW.
@@arc7375 Nintendo doesn’t own the rights for a open world game
@@arc7375 tbf everyone and their mothers took the BOTW inspiration by the time of Frontiers.
Also Frontiers has been the best 3D Sonic in quite some time. It was a good choice
Did you know that the remake of The Thousand Tear Door did something cool and amazing revealing concept art as a gallery for their game. It looks great
It's censored sadly
The game itself I mean
Speaking of the dreamcast, would love to see you cover Phantasy Star Online. Ideally, all four of its episodes, but at least the original game and V2
That would be something neat to cover. I do have a lot of history with it personally as I played it when as a teenager.
@@TheObsessiveGamer you too? nice. didja stick to single player, or did you play on official or fan servers?
@@deathstinger13 Being a teenager I couldn't get a subscription then so I stuck to playing it single player haha.
I would one day like to get a Gamecube Broadband adapter and play it on fan servers to experience it as intended
@@TheObsessiveGamer you could try and pick up a dial-up modem instead. it's been a while, but that's how this one connected to SCHThack's servers back in HS. It would be worth upgrading to a BB adapter eventually though, since it would also enable LAN play in a handful of games, which can be dummied into online play
@@TheObsessiveGamer if you don't mind this one asking, what character/classes did you play?
I love this one!!! Thank you !
Love your videos bro
Thank you! :D
My first game and favorite of alltime! Thank ya for the video
No problem! Absolutely love the game
17:22 oh my god...
yeah.....
This is a fantastic video!
Thank you! :D
Still my favorite Sonic game. SA2 is a huge step backwards. Come at me SA2 fanboys and girls. This is how 3d Sonic should be. Multiple playable characters each with their own clear conditions and stories. I find that so much better than everyone having the same story and doing the same things. It felt like a adventure and I feel a lot of that was lost in SA2 when they made the gameplay styles significantly wirse in ny opinion even removing hub worlds was a downgrade to me. The beta Windy Valley looks like the greatest stage in 3d Sonic history and is the direction I wish SA2 went in instead of linear obstacle courses. The soundtrack is still goated in my mind. We need a SA1 remake to iron out the kinks and show the kids what Sonic used to be and what the series shouldn't have strayed from.
It's a fair a assessment. Most who like SA2 do simply cause it's more Sonic/Shadow levels and less Biggs the Cat. Imo it did some things right such as upping levels for those two for example, but I do agree it was a step backwards in other parts like the Adventure segments and Tails becoming an Eggman clone
@@TheObsessiveGamer No both have 10 speed stages actually.
@@spartanq7781 Yea but the speed stages in SA2 were done much better imo.
@@stellaviewer9849 Not even close. You're just running in a straight line.
@@spartanq7781 That's an exageration. The SA2 speed stages are obstacle courses. There are several obstacles to overcome, so you can’t just dumb it down to “running in a straight line.” We’re not talking about the boost levels where you just hold x in later games after all, but there is a much greater emphasis on speed when compared to SA1. The stages in SA1 feel unpolished by comparison.
That Marble Zone music...🥰 The 2D Sonic games had the best music.
13:12 its still in the game files, animations are there just no interaction or ai path
Not prioritizing Sonic for Saturn is still so baffling. Imagine a Nintendo console without a Mario game.
tbf.. Yuji Naka was the asshat for that that ultimately hurt SEGA alot during that time, also he claimed NiGHTS into Dreams was his game, his engine etc, so Sonic Xtreme was pushed back, canceled and ultimately SEGA got bankrupt and nearly died on that hill because of him... technically nearly twice thanks to Sonic 06 having a similiar crisis thanks to him taking so many people with him.
@@Evilriku13 But they should've had Naka tasked on making Sonic 3D from day 1 to begin with. That in itself was a mistake.
Sonic Adventure is still a great game until this day
Truly is. Been tempted to get the Steam release to replay with a ton of mods.
Genuine question, I've been putting off watching this since it came out so I could watch it and part 2 together; is it actually in the works, or did you just call this Part 1 because you knew a Part 2 was inevitable, but without a solid timeframe?
@@erc3338 sorry for the major delay on Part 2. Realistically Part 2 is a little bit of a beast so it got put off to complete some other projects I had planned as I worked on it on the side. I plan to wrap that up in February, so standby for that no problem :)
@TheObsessiveGamer No hard feelings or anything like that, I just was curious!
@erc3338 none taken, it's a legitimate question:) but I'll plan to prioritize that for Feb :)
Not seeing anyone else in the comments say this so I'll point this out. Fly the Bat is not a Sonic Character nor was he ever intended to be. He's from a SNES game called Uchuu Race: Astro Go! Go! that Satoshi Okano, concept artist for Sonic Adventure, drew the art for. Theres some other small errors but you already adressed them in the comments. Great video btw, real fun watch
Looking into Fly the Bat a bit, he wasn't actually from Uchuu Race, but rather heavily inspired by the character "Flyhigh" from the game. The character also looks to have been planned to even be a playable character. Also thanks!
@@TheObsessiveGamer I'll look further into this when I get some time. Translators online in my experience with them tend to mix up positive and negative statements. It's entirely possible that he was intended for Adventure and the translator I used just messed up and said he wasn't. They also tend to mess up with gender too, so I'm used to having to double check translations when something feels off lol
Where is part 2
Yuji Naka didn't stay out of Sonic X-tremes development. He was the reason for the cancellation
He was furious that the US team were using the NiGHTS engine without his permission. He went to high management and threatened to leave SEGA again, this time taking his team with him. SEGA obviously caved in and that was that
he was mad because nights was a sonic game first, sega threatened naka to stop making sonic games but he still did in secret and made a tech demo, he didn't like it so he turned it into Nights. If he shared the Build it would have come out that Naka made a sonic game at that time and then he would get fired.!!!!! Stop trashing Naka. We don't even know if he was really mad because people tell a lot of tales about him and y'all eat it up
plus Sonic Xtreme was trash and the lore was trash, the controls were trash. I played it
If we ever get a remake of sa1 and sa2 I know we never will but if we do they should put all the cut content back in.
8:02 and Guatemala
Even the Tikal city have a character with that name liked that
Where’d you find the image of the sonic adventure advert in Shibuya? I can’t find it elsewhere online.
I actually had to make that one lol Only way to convey how it may have looked.
Ahh okay, yeah it looked edited but I’d love to see original pics if anyone sees any
@@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss yeah I'd love to find that. Other than many eyewitness reports I can't find anything from Shibuya there
Part 1 on my day off work ❤
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Love your videos... Though I thoroughly enjoyed Castlevania 64, particularly Legacy of Darkness... IMHO Most of the hate comes from the fact it was on N64, had it arrived on Saturn or PlayStation it would be labelled genre defining and groundbreaking - all the elements in Castlevania 64 are the staple of all From Software games (albeit at a more refined and higher quality now) and Devil May Cry series.
I REALLY didn't like CV64 and the sentiment is felt by most it seems so I felt it was okay enough to state. I really like Legacy of Darkness though. I felt that was CV done right in 3D . Platforming and action proper
0:26 inflamus exe charactar is mod infernal demise
Interestingly
21:09 Who's that bird with the shell still on their body? Was that from a Sega game? It looks familiar.
Huh, there was almost a spider Mobian but she got cut? that's no good.
I hate how Adventure DX ruined the game for new players, from the ugly art direction to bugs exclusive to that version, it makes me sad that most people never played the Dreamcast original.
Calling carpet textured Dreamcast models better than the DX ones is delusional.
@@genyakozlov1316 Ah yes, the great dolls made of plastic that are the new models and the extra bugs not found in the original, plus missing effects and horrible new art direction are certainly improvements from the DX version for sure.
I really wish Sega would do a proper remaster/ faithful remake at this point. I'm so sick and tired of the stupid consensus that this game is bad and the story is confusing. Sonic Adventure is literally peak Sonic and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
If only they released it on the Saturn and adventure 2 on Dreamcast with a dvd drive
Christmas NiGHTS has sonics first 3d playable appearance
Yep! Probably a slight test on Sonic's physics for them I imagine
More of a fun unlockable but a physics test is more probable ua-cam.com/video/bAoFRxS0qZ8/v-deo.html
I wish they used the, Saturn model they looked really cute!!!!!
please do a beta version sonic adventure 2.
That's the plan after I finish the SA1 series.
They should have just had Takenobu Mitsuyoshi perform at the event.
I know he's done Sega songs prior but maybe it's more they wanted a metal singer for it?
did bro rlly said that the blurring shoes effect was a western choice? it was broken, never have I heard that the blurring for sonic shoes effect were for western, the effect was broken from porting the game.
No I said that was removed in the western version
I coughed at the realistic sonic
Did the art by Okano and Uekawa get swapped?
Nice video so far but for the love of god in your next upload, don't be afraid to have 4:3 deadspace (vertical black bar space) in your video. It feels like I'm absolutely cramped watching the video & it's a bit nauseating.
Well I do somethings use the blurred edge 4:3 trick. It was more an artistic choice to sometimes keep it zoomed, but maybe i'll start using more that blurred 4:3 trick.
@@TheObsessiveGamer yee, def throw a gaussian blur on the bottom layer. Not only that, but there's really only so much resolution that you can pull from low res videos, the more that you expand them, the lesser the quality.
@@haydenetic yeah gonna plan to do that more
where part 2 at?
It's Obsessive Gamer time
It time!
No need to use Castlevania 64 as a bad example. It and its sequel are wonderful games.
Legacy of Darkness is fantastic. Original CV64 is bad lol At least imo
The classic models are still used but they changed the textures
Where? Cause the Skychase segment in the original 98 release replaced those with the final models even
@@TheObsessiveGamer weird, I think saw it being disgust and I was sure I even saw it
@@TheObsessiveGamer I was just playing the game, the flying mini game with tails, and I was not expecting it but for a short scene the new models were replaced with the beta ones, it happens before the Canon loads
😲 - Woah!
yep it time!
4:19 peak Sonic character name 🤦♂️
A name even more stereotypical to the character than even Tails
Talk about low budget flights, no food or movies... I'm outta here! I like running better! Yeahhh!
rofl
I played this game on the pc but the last boss had many glitches 😢
Oh was it? I wonder if someone has made a bug patch for it yet
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Hello from Canada!👋🏼 :)
Sonic Adventure was pretty lit back in the day, despite its shortcomings.
I just wonder why they made the gamecube port worse I don't get why it had transparency issues when N64 could do transparency fine like the morpha fight in Ocarina of time
My two theorizes around this come down to:
A) It having a different director led to him have a different (and maybe strange) vision that led to the many awkward changes it got
or (and more likely)
B) the Dreamcast architecture was so different from the Gamecubes that they didn't want to bother putting in too much effort and thus did a half assed port.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yea B sounds more likely. Just weird Sonic adventure 2 came out on gamecube before 1 and that didn't have those kinds of issues at least from what I remember
@@JosephShemelewski I feel with SA2, they wanted to give a proper outing for Sonic on the console, so they put in proper effort. SA1 being done simply to fill in the void of a missing game
@@TheObsessiveGamer Yea true and maybe it's because SA2 was late enough they did a gamecube build along side the dreamcast and just held it for a year for some limited exclusivity. Or I need to take off my tinfoil hat lol
ST what now 💀
yeah......
Musics too loud bro
Sorry about that. Will plan to tone it down for text time
A bit a disappointed as no cut content in this video
So the cut characters, the difference in level and character designs, and the Saturn build don't count?
HEDGEHOG!!!!!!!!!!
Sonic Xtreme kinda saw the light of day as Sonic Lost World
Not really. The developers said in an interview that they forgot about Xtreme by the time of Lost World.
The final simple story of Xtreme, from the point of development where they already cut Tiara and any plans for a complex story from the game and just asked Japan to make the plot for them, was actually reused in Colours, they just added theme park theming and renamed Mips to Wisps, all because the same writer came up with both.
Xtreme would not have all the juvenile humour in it however, which even the Japanese version of Colours is filled with.
Now this is interesting to hear on Colours taking Xtremes story. Gotta look futrther into it.
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Spider-girl rule 34 incoming.
"central and south american location" " "took inspiration from aztec buildings.."
ACTUALLY THEY VISITED MEXICO WICH IS IN NORTH AMERICA
ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE MAYAN
Classic gringo
Usually Mexico is called "Central" which is why I listed it as that, but yeah officially it is North American. Also apologize on mixing Aztec and Mayan, my source messed up there
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