Why You Need Powerful Lights for Filmmaking - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Powerful lights are extremely useful tools - in part 1 of this little series, we'll have a look into a few reasons why they can be useful, utilizing daylight as a part of our lighting setups. It can be difficult to think of a 2 grand lighting unit as affordable - but if we think about the amount of money that goes into new cameras, lenses, and rigs, it's not hard to see that a pricier, powerful light, is an amazing investment for a low budget filmmaker - opening up your lighting options considerably and allowing you to better achieve your vision. We'll be exploring this topic more in depth in future parts! :)
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Powerful lights are extremely useful tools - in part 1 of this little series, we'll have a look into a few reasons why they can be useful, utilizing daylight as a part of our lighting setups. It can be difficult to think of a 2 grand lighting unit as affordable - but if we think about the amount of money that goes into new cameras, lenses, and rigs, it's not hard to see that a pricier, powerful light, is an amazing investment for a low budget filmmaker - opening up your lighting options considerably and allowing you to better achieve your vision. We'll be exploring this topic more in depth in future parts! :)
Rob Ellis never disappoints. Loyal to the channel.. oh my. 👊🏼👊🏼
Glad I haven't disappointed yet! ;) thank you so much!! :)
The color grading of this video was out of this world! Great tutorial as always. Would love to see how you managed that day for night look, looks flawless!
Thanks so much!! :) moviola.com/technique/day-for-night-with-rob-ellis-davinci-resolve-tutorial/ ;)
I don't do cinematography, but I do photography and your channel teaches me a LOT
Thanks!
So many lighting vids, but this channel is the most informative, practical, and useful I've been able to find. Kudos!
Wow thank you so much, I appreciate it!!
completely agree! Rob is awesome at explaining these techniques. Also refreshing to not just be all about Aputure!
Same
I agree
@@RobEllisCinematographer Was this shot on the Lumix S5? Also what is your opinion on the camera? What made you switch?
This was, as ever Rob, so informative!
Thanks so much Patrick! Happy to hear! :)
My dude. Your videos changed how I light. Big props. You deserve way more recognition on YT 👌👌👌
That's so awesome to hear, I'm glad they've helped!! Thanks so much Kenny!
That intro was so good, hereditary vibes
Ha thank you so much Jorge! What a film!
Perfection. Making me so much better at lighting man!
god knows how much i've waited for a new video to pop out! haha
thanks again for sharing, and great video! As usual
Ah man thank you so much, glad I could provide! They're getting a bit longer these days so there's a bit more of a delay between them!
Thanks Luis!! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer I absolutelly don't mind waiting a litle longer haha
Rob! Infinite Appreciation for you, brother! You and your amazing content are Legendary, and I'm learning much from you. 🏆
Thank you so so much and I'm super happy to hear you're learning from my videos! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer You're very welcome, mate! :)
Rob Ellis is the most talented man alive , i will fight you if you disagree 👿.but seriously rob we do appreciate your work , keep doing what you're doing mate because you are doing great 💚💚.
Haha too kind! ;) thank you so much, and I really appreciate the appreciation! :) thank you for the kind words :D 💚💚💚
THIS. IS. AMAZING
Thank you so much! :)
Another fantastic video!
The quality of the intro alone... WHEW.. You recorded this with an eyeball?!?!
edit: seriously though, amazing tutorial, I'm really looking forward to the subsequent parts!
Haha thank you so much! The camera I've been using recently has a beautiful sensor and recording options :D happy to hear that, I'm looking forward to putting them together!
thank you rob , this is the perfect channel to start lighting journey and more ..
Thank you so much! :)
Thanks Rob. Such informative and educational content. Really appreciated.
very dope, thank you sir ! and cheers from chocolate country switzerland.
Glad you enjoyed it!! Cheers! :D
Outstanding work, man. Hands down!
Much appreciated Dimitrie, thank you so much! :)
Damn this is good!
Love this🙌🏽
Happy to hear that, thank you!! :)
Really nice content ! ! !
Then fact that the night scene was shot during the day is crazy
It's amazing what you can do if you've got enough power!
Very interesting thanks
Excellent video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you for watching!!
Rob always enjoy watching your content, feels well paced, well informed and put together nicely, happy new year to you!
Thanks so much Byron, glad you're enjoying my videos! And a happy new year to you too man! :D
Omg I was literally setting up to try out some lighting tests and I was thinking “it would be nice if Rob Ellis uploaded something” and not 5 mins passed and here I am lol.
It was fate! Glad I timed that one right for you man haha!
@@RobEllisCinematographer just finished the video! Great stuff as always! I have been looking to get a powerful workhorse light for a while now. Just recently I’ve been lucky enough to work as a Grip for a bigger production instead of my usual freelance solo work so I’ve gotten to play around with some more expensive lights (300d MK II, 120d, Quasars, etc.) also working under a Gaffer and a DP has taught me so much by just watching them work.
I was debating on investing on either a 300d MK II or a Litepanel Astra 6x Bi-color (one being a single-source and the other a panel but still is able to mount modifiers on it), so I can demote the GVM 800Ds to secondary/auxiliary lights. But then it struck me, yes a very powerful light will help me greatly in being more versatile, but what’s the use of a strong light if I’m not able to properly shape it? While gripping we barely just used the lights by themselves, most of the time there were 2-3 uses of modification for each source. So I feel like having a good kit (C-Stands, Flags for Negative fill, diffusion, bounce, gels, grids, frost, domes, etc.) is equally important or even a prerequisite before getting a strong light. In hindsight it seems pretty obvious to have the ability to shape your source in a multitude of ways, but I guess I got caught up in the gear itself and not how to properly implement said gear. So I think the right way to go for me is to build up my modifier kit more before I go head first with a powerful light. What do you think?
I can’t wait for part 2! I’ll keep this series saved for later to implement when I finally get a powerful light lol.
Great job dude. Could you show how you did this effect of changing the day for the night?
Hey Eduardo, I may make a future video on the specifics :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks brother! Would be great!!
very informative and usefull .Thanks !
Thank you, happy you found it useful!! :)
Fantastic video! Does something weird happen to the audio around 6:13? Not sure why happens there but my headphones on my flight had a weird sound change.
Yup, the middle section of the video unfortunately has some strange panning going on too, I wasn't able to double check everything as I was rushing to get this one so it slipped through the cracks :(
Great video, can't wait to apply things like this on my future videos, budget permitting hahha
Thank you Emily! Haha, no reason you can't apply some of this to a lower budget, e.g: with the shed scene, we could have waited for the darker hour after sunset, and used a less powerful light for the same effect :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Oh nice! I didn't think about that, thanks for the tip!! :)
I like that content.
Thanks so much!
This was so good 👏👏 one of the best channels on youtube hands down. ❤️ i have a question, what camera did you use to film this?
Thank you so much Parth!! I've got a few videos coming out soon featuring the camera I shot this with, so I don't want to give up the name of the game just yet! ;)
@@RobEllisCinematographer AHHHHH CANT WAIT. Again, great job man loving the content 💪❤️
People Always Neglect to Ask the Simple but Obvious Nagging Inquiries regarding what Camera was used... it’s rather Simple to figure out if one were to read between the lines. you my friend get a 5 out of five, though.
PS: This channel is amazing and the footage looks incredible. Rob absolutely came out out of nowhere and is making among the best content out there. I’m sincerely grateful and impressed.
Also I’m about to pull the trigger on a camera purchase and I’m chomping at the bit to hear how Braw 6K compares to these files in workflow etc. can’t wait for the videos to drop
youre so cool
Hey great video bud! Can you send me links to the light and attachment you used? Thx
Thanks man! It's the Nanlite Forza 500 and Nanlite FL-20G fresnel :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer thx bro! 🙏And yea I shot a feature last summer and used some of your lighting tips. Thanks for making these. It’s making me a better DP! 🙌🙌🙌
what cameras do you use?
This was shot with the Lumix S5 but I'm currently shooting with the Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks a lot 😀
MORAL OF THE STORY: Overcast days are your best friend.
Is your crazy light output giving you much fill light bouncing in the room as well?
Being such a narrow beam, it was mainly giving that little kick you can see on the side of the face. Something I perhaps should have mentioned :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Ok awesome thank you, very cool video.
The day for night shots are incredible, very inspiring
Thank you so much!! :)
Hey Rob, yet another great video! I use Premiere Pro instead of Resolve, will I learn anything from your 21-minute video?
Thank you! :) Unfortunately it's very Resolve-specific!!
What's the minimum power you'd recommend for a decent key light?
I think it totally depends on the conditions you're lighting in - if you're lighting in a dark room, then a 60W unit from godox, nanlite, aputure, etc, can be more than enough! If you're mixing ambient and artificial lighting, the minimum I'd recommend would be something like the Godox SL/VL 150ii, but even then it may not be quite bright enough in extreme situations, e.g: against the sun. And also possibly TOO bright in some situations - I had to shoot at 1% once in a dark room on an overcast day and it was a little bright :) so, a hard question to answer, as the best thing to have is a few different units with different levels of power!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thank you for such a clear and concise response, Rob. Yeah, that makes sense especially in regards to lighting a dark room and such. I like the look of low key lighting and so 60ws would probably be the most sufficient for me.
Cheers again and thanks for such a great and informative channel.
No worries! And thank you so much! :)
You are awesome! Thanks a lot for that insight!
Just got my Forza 500 and did a test with gels in front of the fresnel. They are melting away in seconds. How do you avoid that?
Thank you so much! :) And awesome! It's a bloody great light right?! Attach the barn doors and clip your gels to them :) the CTO in the shed in this video was actually taped to and hanging down from the ceiling as there wasn't enough space for the barn doors haha!
what i can't get dehancer ......
Do you have any "day for night" color tuts?
moviola.com/technique/day-for-night-with-rob-ellis-davinci-resolve-tutorial/ :)
Do you have an extremely slow auto-pan on your narration? It's kinda distracting on headphones.
Yeah not sure what happened there throughout the middle part of the video, I was rushing to get this one out and didnt have time to triple check everything so it slipped through :(
ramen is STILL fried as a way to preserve it from spoilage and increase their shelf life... this came about the time of WW2
What are your thoughts on the Godox VL300 compared to the Forza 500?
From what I have seen it also has a pretty good output.
I'm very curious about it but I've not tried it! Hopefully soon :)
Never underestimate the power of the Forza.
This gives me PS1 advert flashbacks haha!
So the secret for filmmaking on a budget with a consistent overcast sky is to live in the UK 😂
Just kidding, I currently have the same sky in north of France for 5 months...
Haha it definitely helps ;) other times it's a hindrance!
Иice!
Thank you!
is it me, or did you delete Some videos?
Definitely deleted. Lighting the bathrrom scene was elite
Yup, monetized the channel so I had to do some tidying up! Do you mean the bathroom scene with the Godox LC500R? Because that's still there :D ua-cam.com/video/N06tOxfw-6A/v-deo.html
@@RobEllisCinematographer ahhh thanks I thought it was gone. Trying this out tomorrow. Appreciate you man! I’m actually about to head out and pick up some Unbleached muslin. Do you a reccomend a specific length? (Cove lighting)
No worries!! Thanks man :D if you buy a decent amount of length/size you can always cut it to whatever size you need, dependant on how big the space you're lighting is, etc
15 pound for a course? Bargain. Thnx a bunch.
Day for night can be TRICKY and you did a REALLY nice job with it. The intro sequence had some Gregory Crewdson vibes... Loved it!
Wow, I love Gregory Crewdson, that has made my night haha! Thank you so much! :)
I'm in love with the on screen diagrams - amazing video!!
Thank you so much Adam, glad they're working well! :D
Me too!
You never cease to amaze me with your creative lighting techniques
Thanks so much! :) I hope they inspire others to get creative with their lighting! :D
@@RobEllisCinematographer It def does I didn’t even think you did day for night because it looked so good!
@@cj64films super happy to hear that! :D thank you!!
Great great great! So inspiring just seeing the simple shots of you on the sofa. Makes me want to make short films using lighting properly! I'm guilty of all the other content creators - just slap a large softbox on a light and away you go. But this is simply stunning the results you get. Cinematic gold!
That's awesome that it's inspiring you, super glad to hear that! Nothing wrong with a simple softbox setup for soft light! :) but always good to experiment and learn other ways to light, absolutely! Thanks so much James!
I can't put in words how much I appreciate your channel and videos.You are one the best and unique creator on this platform and I love all your videos. Never stop doing what you do.
Thank you so much, honestly, such kind words and I really appreciate it! :) :)
As a up and coming filmmaker/videographer, I appreciate you explaining your lighting techniques in depth and explaining why and how you do certain things and also telling us about light and how it works. Very very well done, probably the best stuff I've seen.
i always learn so much from your channel rob! would you consider making a video to achieve a daylight look while still keeping the lights inside? i dont know much about lighting or whats possible haha but it would be so helpful for those in small spaces or not being able to rig a light from outside. always love your techniques & you give the best advice!!
Happy to hear that! :) one of my previous videos on fill light sort of covers this - ua-cam.com/video/0qWkaCCxEtw/v-deo.html - but it might be nice to make a video more specifically aimed at using lights inside for a daylight look - I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion! And thank you for the kind words! :D
I feel like I should be paying to watch this channel. Damn.
Haha thank you so much! :)
Dude you're a gem. LOVE from India.
Thank you so much man, love right back from the UK!
I ALWAYS forget that Day for Night is a thing until I see it done. Incredible video boss.
Day for night is such a great tool if you don't have the budget to close off entire areas and fly huge bounce balloons in the sky haha! Thanks so much Peter!
I'm surprised you don't have links to the light and accessories you show in this video. That's a missed opportunity for affiliate income. Love your work!
Most legit cinematography channel on UA-cam
Aah man there are plenty on here more legit than me! ;) Thank you so much though it really means a lot! :)
This is brilliant
Thanks so much! :)
So great. And wow, those day for night scene were very convincing, I had no idea.
Thank you so much! :) just one of the advantages of having a powerful light :D
Love your videos. These are super informative and helpful. I know you've been using a BMPCC 2.5K in your other videos... so is that a new gear at 11:45?
Thanks so much Brandon! :) it may be a new camera ;) I have a couple of videos coming soon featuring it!
so did you step away from the trusted tiny BMMCC, seeing you shooting new vids with other camera?
I have written an script for my short film but my mobile vivo y51 is not good for film making 😢😢😢 and I cannot color grade because I don't have an computer so I am making UA-cam videos to achieve some money that can help me 😢😢
great lighting work, but I´m really tired now. And it took 15Mins for something that´s explained within 8mins due to slow speech.
My best ever video to learn something (i mean the complete 46 minutes version). Just thank you very much.
Ah! You got me with the shed exterior shot. I was going "How the Hell did he get such nice ambient light - fake moon?" Nice!
Haha ;) crazy what you can do with light! Thank you so much!
Your channel has become on of the most useful channels for filmmaking lately, really appreciating the knowledge you're sharing with everyone 🤘
Thank you so much and I'm glad you're getting a lot out of my videos :)
Outstanding !! this channel it has a massive impact in the world of film making.
The Leylines - fun band ! Nice work as always!
Thank you so much! :) I don't see them in this video though?! Haha! Definitely have been in some previous videos of mine though!
This is perfect. Slow in the best way possible. thanks for sharing
Bro ur channel has the only intention for great content thank you so much brother
Fantastic tipps, many thanks :)
Absolutely, thank you! :)
lovely video my friend!
Dude I gotta figure out how to grade like you. I have the bmcc 2.5k too and I can't grade for the life of me
This was shot with a different camera! Grading is a massive learning process and as with anything you get better with practise :) check out the colour grading tutorial I have advertised if you have Davinci Resolve!
Fantastic video!
Thanks Tommy! :)
And if you're on budget...go full frame with a T1.5 lens.
That won't make your lights more powerful unfortunately! :p
Very interesting! And how powerful is that light!?!?!?!?!?!?
Thank you! It's got some good power behind it!
Not sure who has 4K spare change for a couple of lights in that setup...
1 pricier light and some cheaper ones to supplement it? :D
Interesting. I really appreciate that you showed us how we can utilize this light.
If only didn't it cost more than I earn in a year :/
Even if it's not affordable yet, you can still take some of the info from the video and apply it to a lower budget - e.g: instead of shooting that shed scene on an overcast day, we could have shot in the hour after sunset when it's a little darker, using a less powerful light in the shed :)
Another masterclass by Rob Ellis! You are a genius with light bro! Light years ahead of 90% of youtube (no pun intended).
Thanks so much man! :) there are plenty better than me I'm sure! :D but I really appreciate it :)
increíble. te felicito
Amazing use of a cloudy day! Well done 👍
Crazy what you can do with natural light with the right tools! Thank you so much! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer it blew my mind when you revealed you shot those exteriors during the day 🤯
You are Such inspiration ♥️
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! ❤
Keep Going im never missed a video ♥️
Can u suggest me some light for short filmmaker at home ..which will work all situation
That is a very broad question! ;) research! Figure out what you want to light, how you want to light and why you want to light, then build from there! :)
useful video
we don't need one because gear does not matter ( cough )
Haha I understand the sentiment of that statement, but it's all a balance - different gear helps in different ways :D
Just to let you know,one of your tutorials has been shared in Cinematography.com forum by a great DOP. It's a great forum with some of the most renowned DOPs out there in it. Felt proud to be a subscriber from very begining .
Wow really? That's awesome! I regularly lurk on the forums but I've never actually become a member! Do you have a link to the post? Would love to check it out! And I really appreciate it man, thank you so much for your support, it means a lot!! :)
Yes ,here . I only rely on this forum otherwise I try to take the best out of UA-cam.
cinematography.com/index.php?/topic/86532-deakins-cove-lighting-possible-with-led/
I need best camera 😢😢😢
Would love to see the breakdown tutorial on how to grade for night like you did. You amazing men
moviola.com/technique/day-for-night-with-rob-ellis-davinci-resolve-tutorial/ - ;) thank you so much!
Informative, generous, educational. Thanks!
Thank you so much! :)
I have a 300c
Another great video! Thank you!
P.S. what's the music in the background?
Thanks so much!! A few different tracks by a few different artists, all from Artgrid :)
Very good!
it is
a usefull material and inteligent approaach... i like your style man!! thank you!!
Thanks so much, super happy you found it useful!! :)
Fantastic content dude. Thanks.
Thanks so much!! :)
ultimate knowledgefull video
Thanks so much!:)