The Soviet ☭ AK74 | AK74N [ Iron Sights ] to 500yds: Practical Accuracy
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The fixed stock classic AK74 and AK74N was a staple of the soviet fighting force. For years, this was the bog-standard weapon that was used throughout the Soviet Union, and the old way of thinking about the AK74 was that it's not very accurate... but is that really the case?
Interestingly, the wood-stocked AK74 has found itself in the tragic battlefields in Ukraine on both sides. This is the soviet icon that will not die, a classic symbol of the Soviet style of simplistic weapon systems that will likely stick around for generations to come.
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*error on my part, those are 60gr non-magnetic rounds*
Also this is a Bulgarian ISD rifle with the original military Bulgarian barrel... but there's more... since it was a bulgarian ISD build, they take military rifles, saw up the receivers and build them in bulgaria right next to the (10) factory on their own receivers. after running the rifle for a while, we realized that the ISD receiver was crooked... as we looked into it more, we saw the ejector was peening. Bottom line the Bulgarian ISD made receiver was poorly heat treated and soft, so with the help of Brandon Hererra and his lead gunsmith Zack, we had the parts transferred to a U.S. clone receiver, and now it works well with no heat treat issues. Basically it started as parts kit (with barrel) build from Bulgaria and now it's the same but without soft receiver issues.
Hope you guys liked us re-treading old grounds! We've got quite a few "redemption" runs:
- M4A1 + ACOG - this time with an actual Colt 6921 and a real USMC RCO (TA31 ACOG)
- K2, but this time with decent ammo
- AK Niner Mk3 - with the SAG upgrade and better optics
We've already published:
- M21
Also yes, we are working on the OEM bone stock AK105 before we rice that out into a spetsnaz AK105
I'm seriously interested in how you like that TA31 ACOG. I used irons as a soldier at the tail end of the cold war, but my brother was a US Marine sent in to Ramadi in '03, and he hated it. I think it was the close eye relief he didn't like for CQB, but who knows?
Really looking forward to reruns in the new format and skillset. The old videos were good but you guys have improved and the new format is SO good. I love the in-depth videos on the system and the run and hope for more of that style on the AKs and other reruns. Keep it up!
I'd love to see you guys run a Colt 6940. I would be interesting to see if the Monolithic upper makes any meaningful change.
I love mine
You guys will be pleasantly surprised at what a 12" Grendel will do. You'll hear the impacts loudly too.
Can’t wait for those! I’d also personally like to see another run of the M1 Garand as well, but that’s just me. I like seeing those beautiful rifles in action
Some folks spend hours stalking and hunting deer. Meanwhile Henry has to pause to avoid friendly fire as they walk directly into his line of sight- or worse, directly into his previously zeroed target. It's either unbelievable luck or Henry's got some videogame skill buff as a level 100 markman that just draws targets towards his sights.
The new chuck noriss joke lmao!!
I'd say it's more the deer learning where and when they're safe and congregating in those areas. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen of out-of-season animals walking right up to hunters out for other game, almost as if to taunt them. Heck I have one saved of a turkey pecking at the barrel of a shotgun during shotgun-deer season, occasionally stopping to stare at the hunter as if to say "What're you gonna do about it?"
There's something about deer and weapons ranges. It's like they get so used to the sounds of gunfire that it no longer bothers them. The first deer I ever shot was with a belt fed machine gun 😂
I've seen kangaroos on rifle ranges here in Oz an unreasonable amount of times as well. Interesting phenomenon
It's weird how game species like deer elk and pronghorn just walk onto active ranges like that.
Happened to me on several occasions.
That's when I also should get the rangefinder and notebook out to range it and note it for a future hunt reference.
Pro tip: 7n6 would make it easier to spot hits on steel, and has the secondary benefit of starting handy bushfires to keep the deer away.
why? 7n6 only good in wobbling inside tissues, other than that it doesn't have a specific feature to make the hits more visible neither it is explosive tracer to start a fire
@@anayman7 it sparks a lot when you shoot steel targets. Hence both parts of the joke.
What's 7n6? Is it any better than the regular Tula ammo?
@@tullo5564 It has great Wounding Effects and it used to be very cheap
@@alnn1372 But it has shit armor piercing capabilities due to said tumbling effect where it can't even pierce flak jackets from the 90's.
Mikhail Kalashnikov was interviewed by Magnum magazine in 1998 during a visit to South Africa. Q: "What do feel about the new small-bore Russian service rifle, the 5.45? A: "In the beginning, when I was given the task by the government to make a "lesser" calibre, I was opposed to it. But I agreed to redesign the AK47 around the 3,5g [54gr] 5,45x39 cartridge on the reasoning that if I didn't do it, someone else would"! Looking at the impressive performance of a .220" bullet on a windy day, I don't think Dr. Kalashnikov need have been concerned.
He was concerned because the lack of stopping power of such reduced cartridge, he thought the increase in body protection brought by new materials pointed to the need of a caliber intermediate between the 7,62 x 39 mm and the 5,45 x 39 mm
I bought an AK-74 in 2010 and fired 3000+ rd since. It was always accurate, it has great penetration and I feel like it shoot like an ar15 or my M4A1 what I mean is there is little to no recoil.
Best for zombie apocalypse
@@destroyerarmor2846 In Russia maybe. 5.45 is not exactly popular in the US.
@@destroyerarmor2846 it's time to replace the m4a1
How match cartridge 5.45x39 cost?
@@MrHeavy466 True, but there are many AKs converted to 5.56.
The wearable ammunition load increased from 120 rounds of 7.62x39 to 180 rounds of 5.45x39. In this case, the shooting efficiency increased by an average of 1.3 times. As a result, 1.3x1.5 = 1.95, it turns out that the combat capabilities of a soldier with an AK74 are almost twice as much as those with an AKM.
If u have gunfight in open yes but in city barriers ak 47 is a king.
And 47 bullets are deadly compared to 74
oh wow
Russians and their calculations 😂😂
@@labinotdoda1517 7.62 is not deadlier than 5.45. It’s a bigger bullet, but 5.45 tumbles upon impact and creates a larger wound channel anyways.
The only thing 7.62x39 is better at is penetrating wood and brick cover, but 5.45x39 is better at penetrating steel cover, lighter, and more accurate. If you need to penetrate cover, just grab the machinegunner. 7.62x54mmR will do the job much better than either 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.
@@QualityPen Exactly, 5.45 x 39 trashed the 7.62 x 39 in almost all the aspects, there is a good reason why it's still being used after almost 50 years.
Калашников в 5.45 - это прекрасное оружие для войны.
Прицел "П" и прицеливание под мишень в реальных условиях очень эффективно. Реальные условия - это когда ты устал как собака, тебе очень страшно и точно не понятно, где находится противник. А еще в реальных условиях нет разницы между кучностью оружия в 1 МОА и 4 МОА но зато есть огромная разница между оружием, которое требовательно к чистке и уходу за собой и неприхотливым AK.
Еще один момент: из гражданских патронов при стрельбе из Сайги в калибре 5.45x39 лучше всего себя показали Барнаульские патроны с пулей 4.2 грамма. Если каким-то чудом вам удастся их купить, то есть хорошие шансы, что кучность вашего оружия вас приятно удивит.
Google Translated:
Kalashnikov at 5.45 is an excellent weapon for war. Sight "P" and aiming under the target in real conditions is very effective. The real conditions are when you are tired like a dog, you are very scared and it is not clear exactly where the enemy is. And in real conditions there is no difference between the accuracy of weapons in 1 MOA and 4 MOA, but there is a huge difference between weapons that require cleaning and personal care and unpretentious AK. One more thing: from civilian cartridges, when shooting from Saiga in caliber 5.45x39, Barnaul cartridges with a 4.2 gram bullet showed themselves best. If by some miracle you manage to buy them, then there is a good chance that the accuracy of your weapons will pleasantly surprise you.
Да, самая удачная и сбалансированная модель
@@Nikowalker007 personally prefer 6p21N model (aka aks74N) for ergonomics
Barnaul for 5.56 ak?
@@johndaugherty4127 For 5.45x39
I was fortunate to adopt the 5.45 cartridge before ammo and guns became really expensive. My SGL rifle is the firearm I have the most rounds fired through.
SGLs are tanks
Same here one vepr one saiga 74 and honestly I like the saiga better. The action is about as smooth as a cz Bren and sig 551
Russian made dinosaurs now, lol. I picked mine up 2011 right before the Russian firearms import ban. Also a warehouse full of 7n6. Never looked back at any other fighting rifles and sold my AR's. Love it.
This rifle is beautiful, also I love seeing old military open sight rifles going out to greater distances. Guys with their 50x zoom scope on an AR probably are barely as good a shot as Henry. Rock on!
ok
By and far the best AK. My Arsenal SLR 105 is the simplest but as I have told people time and again a very deadly accurate rifle in a bombproof beautiful package. Thanks for proving that.
I mean soviet design for small arms around this time where pretty good. Had pkm and 74 in units. Pretty solid.
Which ak was in this?
The only thing I don't like about my Bulgarian is the front sight post. Sometimes it feels like aiming down a brick. Other than that it's an unstoppable monster with circle 10 mags
@@wcsdiaries Bulgarian
The favorite part of the ak in Russia are their magazines. My spec-ops friend was shocked when he had a chance to test an m4, captured in Georgia in 2008, and found that you can squeeze 31st round in a stanag magazine if you are strong enough, and that people recommend to put 29 rounds inside, so reload will be more smooth. None of the problems are present in ak magazines. Also there are a lot of high-capacity magazines available, and all of them are widely used. 45 rounders work perfectly, and, while 60 round 4-row magazine and 90round drum aren't extremely reliable, they are loved for the sheer volume of covering fire they can provide in critical situations.
Considering accuracy, I'll just quote my friend "it is more accurate than I will ever be when I'm under fire"
Yeah, a large part of the AK platform's fame for reliability is thanks to the magazines, which are simply superb.
I've been trained in the belly button targeting method with AKMS. It's simple and effective for a conscript. With single fire, you have all rounds placed in the belly and chest area. And it's also quite forgiving for mistakes, as long as general Wind is on your side.
AKMS have less problems with wind in 300-400m
@@PyromaN93 Bullet is heavier, which has advantages and disadvantages. I personally still have the impression that a relatively short AK barrel doesn't allow 7,62 to reach its full potential, but again it's just an impression not supported by any study or experimentation on my side.
@@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210 yes, this is why i want RPK based carbine Vepr, not AK based Saiga.
@@PyromaN93 7.62x39
10.5” barrel = 2200fps velocity
16” barrel = 2350fps velocity
22” barrel = 2450fps velocity
Anything longer will be 2450fps or less.
16” is for sure as long as you need having a longer barrel than 16” is not a great trade off for the extra weight and length of gun. Really like 14.5” is within 50fps of a 16-18” and the perfect length if you have a option in US to get a Pin n Weld setup.
Good luck
@@JoeWayne84 Do you know how those extra lengths translate into better bullet stabilization, if at all?
Unusual to see winds strong enough to shake the spotting camera, I think the iron-sighted gun did quite well considering. That rifle's a looker too, and that's what really counts.
Could you guys please run a 6.5 Carcano rifle one of these days? That would be interesting.
Would be interesting to see him attempt the Kennedy shots , tricky/ hard to arrange the moving target , height etc
@@johngriffiths118 Especially with a scope that isn't mounted properly.
He could just do a video dropping a water trap caught 6.5 projectile on a stainless table and say "it's 100 confirmed" (then use an M16a1 to knock off a few quick succession shots from an even closer range... ) 🤣
Maybe on a moving target. From an elevated spot?
Henry if you’re reading this I have a Steyr M95 rifle you can play with
Whenever AK74 is in range the wind is wild 😢. I just wonder how will it perform in windless day.
It still did really well for a non-precision rifle.
@@SnapD24 Absolutely. Heck this is more accurate than some AR-15s.
Henry is a virtuoso of marksmanship. The AK74, heavily because of the fast and flat flight of 5.45x39, is very easy to shoot well.
@@Mortablunt He really is. I'd love to see a switch up with Josh doing the precision shooting and Henry doing the run n gun.
Love every AK video you produce. Best part is blowing away the fuddlore about poor accuracy. Great job, fellas!
I never get bored of your AK-74 content. AK-74 Vs AK-12 would be cool.
Only problem it's rather hard to get ak-12 in USA
Not frankenbuild from subpar components , but actual ak-12 that passed quality control
@@tsorevitch2409 understandable. I know they had a reasonably legit clone a while back, so I guess they could use that again.
@@wh8787 that clone is a frankenbuild out of cut down deactivated gun. Ak-12 deactivated guns are made out of production guns that fail quality control so badly that they can't be fixed.
There are multiple civilian ak-12 on Russian market and most of them do not show problems found on that particular one, chain-reviewed by US guntubers.
@@tsorevitch2409 sure but the chance of a better AK-12 clone turning up in the USA from Russia is zero for the next few years at least.
@@wh8787military probably have trophies already to study but they won't give them to guntubers to play with.
I love that you have "H. Chan" written on the mag in russian. That's a nice touch.
I literally just bought an Arsenal Sam5 yesterday, and now 9hole blesses me with this! Guess this week is AK week lol
The 5.45 Ak is an excellent fighting rifle that’s an absolute equal to any western rifle. I just hope we get 5.45 availability figured out domestically soon. Great video!
5.45 if anything has proven and is proving right now in Ukraine. So is the AK-74 for that matter.
PSA is supposed to start producing it sometime this year
I hope PSA does so this year. 5.45 is over .50¢/rd…😮😮
@@jeremy8715 That’s what I hear, but time will tell. So far they have followed through on most things.
@@jeremy8715 you think that's bad? Try getting 9x39mm ammo.
Henry, your Russian accent play was fascinating)). Г.Чан mark on the mag is a hit too!)) Yes, you're perfectly right explaning simplicity of AK iron sights aiming doctrine, wich was developed for a conscription army. It was supposed to be effective for a 18 y.o. conscript with just a high school education and average IQ. I am glad that you get a decent rifle for checking it. And I hope one day political and war tensions will be over, so you can get to Russia for testing more Soviet and Russian samples.
Interesting discussion of 'belt buckle' compared to 'Battle Sight Zero'. It has always been my understanding that these were two different ways of accomplishing the same purpose. When, in the Marines, I was taught BZO on the M14, we were told the idea was that we should be able to get a hit if we held on the target's body. All the other tinkering was for the notional 'precision shot'.
IN FACT, that was the reasoning for the early M16 sight; a semi-fixed system for normal combat ranges--IMO, a far superior sight for combat than the -A2 system.
@@jone002 You have to remember that the "belt buckle hold" doesn't actually mean that the shooter sees the target's belt buckle and aims at it. It simply means that the shooter sees the center mass of the target, and aims at the base of it, which happens to be the belt buckle area. When firing at a target that is partly behind cover, the shooter aims at the base of the exposed center mass.
I literally thought Henry had that entire range haha I was like damn no wonder why it's called nine hole reviews he's got a golf course type of range
Fore!!!
@@ratagris21 lol
I really like 5.45, less recoil than 5.56 but similar velocities. I would think the ballistic coefficient would be better as well because of the projectile shape. Did you notice any difference in wind drift when shooting (compared to 5.56)?
It does have a higher BC
Fwiw I did run a saiga 5.45 in a precision rifle match. It does pretty well in wind out to 400, after that it starts to fall apart fast. Using Hornady Black 60gr V max
That's why 77gr SMKs/TMKs exist. Going to test 73gr ELD-Ms later today.
7.62 better
@@no-sway3709 i took some 73gr ELDM to 520yds a few days ago from my 20" FNA4 with a holosun red dot and magnifier, sub-MOA group (4.75"). 5-7mph wind with a left edge hold on my plate. They're definitely my favorite for long distance. Winds should be 3-5mph today so I might try 620yds later.
The idea of revisiting old shoots for new testing is great. I remember the PARA FAL video being super fun, and Id love to see a modernized FAL with an ACSS red dot and magnifier run thru the course so people can stop saying the FAL isnt appropriate for modern battlefields
One thing about the AK-74 is the higher velocity of the 5.45 means it spends less time in the barrel compared to the 7.62 on top of the lower recoil impulse. This translates to better accuracy for shooters with average level fundamental skills as the rifle is less sensitive overall.
Cheers from Russia! Thank you for the video, for the accurate marksmanship and respectful attitude. Always a pleasure to watch and pretty informative
I've got a Romy AK74 and a Spikes 545 AR upper. Even back when 545 was cheap and plentiful (let's have a moment of silence to remember that) the 545 in the USA was still hampered by a lack of appropriate ammo. The 7N6 was decently accurate but most ranges wouldn't let me shoot it. The accuracy of the commercial stuff was always awful, IME. I can keep 7N6 on the head of an IPSC at 200 yards out of the AK with an optic but I have a hard time holding the same group from the same setup at half the distance with any commercial ammo that I've tried.
Awesome iron sight shooting in adverse condition. Great spotter x shooter work. Animal range guests. On point Russian accent. Mindful debrief.
Simply good episode.
AK-12 was an attempt to make an AK-74 have all the same rails and ability to accept accessories from the factory as opposed to needing to install the new railed parts yourself. First AK-12 was ok in "greenhouse" conditions, and then Ukrainian war started, and soldiers started to say what they liked and didn't like. Some stuff is solvable with better QC and manufacturing techniques (retaining stiff mounting of the dust cover over time and use), others needing a bit of re-design (muzzle device mounting, execution of sight, uselessness of 2-round burst). AK-12 is a significant rework of the AK-74, and does require maturing. New model named AK-12M1 has been announced and already received mixed reception.
As for my own opinion: The way AK/AKM/AK-74 is laid out is military minimalism of "only what's necessary". Accessories are cool, but the biggest killer on the battlefield is the artillery and Ukraine has shown it starkly. All that's needed on the rifle is the ability to mount an LPVO or a prismatic sight with a 1-4x or 1-6x settings for different combat conditions. Few use settings BETWEEN 1 and whatever is the maximum. It's either 1 or maximum. As for night aiming devices, a modern night sight, or better yet thermal sight can be mounted onto the side rail. Less is more.
Once again and as always, stunning shooting and exemplary discussion. Truly a masterclass demonstration for those of us trying gain proficiency with long guns. Also, laying waste to claims that this AK series ha been maligned as an inaccurate weapon.
Thanks!
Outstanding content and info as always! I shotted a few hundred rounds of this non magnetic core wolf ammo and noticed its accuracy slighly better than standard wolf ammo.
i know a older Russian guy, his opinion on the rifle was this. He thought the safety worked well, when you were scared you hit it in a hurry. it goes right to semi auto, second the round did well against the isis guys he was deployed against. he did not like the short stock or the stock handguards but hes over six feet tall, swapped that out and used a four power scope. he said it did well during the day as long as the wind wasn't going nuts. he liked the low recoil, i cant type what he said about that but it implied it was a buzzsaw inside the huts and hoes he dealt with on auto
I always felt like the AK-74 was “accidentally good”
The 7.62x39 was a little stout for the AKM, but scaling it back while keeping the same general receiver pattern makes for a highly manageable rifle
Beautiful rifle and excellent run
As we know from own expirience, almost impossible to see man-size target more than at 300 meters. But sometimes you need to shoot in enemy's unit (8-10 targets), so accuracy even on larger distances important. Idk how you took better results for 7.62 than 5.45. As I can see, 74th better AK wariant almost in all. With respect to you, gents, from ZSU
I would love to see an episode where just for kicks, and using whatever platform they prefer, Henry shooting the course and Josh attempting to follow him to show the difference between the two of them, and maybe even a third shooter (ideally myself) with zero experience just to gauge Henry's abilities in his field.
5.45x39 and Gorka jacket - can't go wrong with that!
Military 5.45x39 uses a 52gr bullet. The commercial stuff is 59/60gr. That's probably why the sights were off.
53
These are 52
I believed the standard 7n6 is 53gr. I wish PSA would hurry up with the 5.45.
Also on a range in yards not meters
Fwiw, a friend and I tested 7N6 on rifle steel as close as 50yds. We found that 5.56 M193 actually left more of a dimple than 7N6 did.
M193 has significantly more speed, especially if you shoot it out of a 20" barrel.
@@balathruin definitely not “significantly”. You’re talking about 3200 FPS with M193 out of 20” barrel. And about 3050-3100 fps with 7N6 from 16” barrel
@@RosaParksWasWyt That seems a little high for 7N6. I've only ever seen averages of 2950, maybe 3000 in case of actual imported ammo.
The issue is not the damage on steel targets. The issue is sparks from the bi-metalic jacket causing fires or setting off unburnt powder.
I can recall in my military years having an 5.45 rifle, straight from the wooden storage box (brand new) one still in oil from teh factory. It is sweet and light weapon with minimum recall and extremely accurate. At 100m I had overlapping 9 and 10 dots (with iron site). As you may be aware the life of the system is 10-15k rounds, then you dispose it and get a new one. Those one were made in Bulgaria (Kazanlak) under license from USSR with symbolic value of 1 RUB ( edna rubbla) (license value). Longevity of teh system very much depend on the using condition, ammo quality , the rifle can take everything from the standard ones, trough tracers and armor piercing. As listed by Dima below П (прав, straight), should be 500-600 meters with velocity of 860-920m/s. The site is manufactured with military spec ammo in mind (power quality, projectile weight and center of gravity). In case when nonmilitary grade ammo is used the iron sites will not help much, different approach is need it. Thanks to experience shooter in the video, targets are reached/ thanks to observer as well.
П (in Russian: постоянный) - permanent, constant, direct, fixed. ;)
Soviet doctrine really pushed that a severely wounded soldier shot in the guts or upper thigh was as good as a dead soldier. They both were no longer a threat, and an added benefit of wounding is you took more than one out of the fight. More than likely another soldier or two will attempt to save their wounded.
I got a 545 ak with a 12.5 barrel u can't beat the recoil of 545x39 aks they are like butter I'm glad u guys showing it respect
Only thing keeping me from getting a 74, is the ammo availability issue. If we had more domestic manufacturers mass producing it, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
I remember a scene in the movie "Full Metal Jacket" where a Viet Cong female soldier was using her supposed "AK 47" (it was a VZ 58, I think) to snipe at the American marines. And I remember thinking, when I first saw that, "No way could she do that with an AK!" (Thanks, "cold war indoctrination!")
I think you guys have well proven the AK series can be utilized in just that way when needed...
It always a big pleasure to watch your videos. Well filmed, good theoretical and historical notice, сute humor. Keep doing komrades!
From Russia with respect :)
I lost my blue tooth headphones in my front yard. This video helped me find them. I played this video and I listened for sound. Thanks again. Your content is amazing
What is not represented is the fact that most ak platform rifles in military service and especially those given to the Ukrainian military have extremely high round counts on the barrels.
Shorty with the 40, seven. 30 caliber heaven. But my man 9 hole got the seventy four revvin! 🎉🎉🎉😂❤❤❤
I love the Soviet mentality of producing a weapon that is good enough for the job and stream lining the shooter doctrine relying on the warriors mind to survive rather on a marginally superior wonder weapon
New video drop just in time! Getting an early heads up to it in the email newsletter is always nice! Thanks guys! Aloha 🤙🏽
It's perfectly ok if you want to put optics on your AK, but iron sights complete the package for me. (Besides my Block 1.5 and Scar has all the optics)
This is a wonderful distance range. I would do this with every single one of my firearms (and would camp in the grass overnight)
Waiting for a speed run video for Ak-74n tbh! It'll definitely show us the real potential of this rifle under stress conditions that more or less would emphasise on its accuracy and effectiveness.
The 5.45x39 Arsenal is a FANTASTIC RIFLE 🏆🏆
This guy must have phenomenal eye sight to hit targets with open sights at that range.
A bought a Romy AK74 for $260 back in 2003. It was the best of a lot of 9 that I split up with some buddies. I had various types of furnature on it over the years, had it refinished, dropped in a Red Star Arms 2 stage trigger and added a real Romy FSB and muzzle break. (it was their calendar that really sold me on the trigger). More recently I added a Primary Arms 2x GLx with a ACSS Reticle on a MI side mount. A nice little CQB combo. Around the same time (2003) I picked up a steel 5.45 Tantal mag( expensive at the time ($75) and a East German rain camo pouch with 4 orange bakelite mags, blank adapter, strippers and something else that I can't recall. ($28), All of the mags work flawlessly as expected, of course. Most of what I've put through it was Wolf 5.45 but I do have a spam can of N6 around for special operations, should I ever need it. As always I love your AK/AR/G3 etc / any kind of 20th century military style rifles that match up with what I own an example of. Going back to K98k's and G(ewehr)43's. Thanks again guys I always learn something new by watching your show!
Been an AK guy since 2013 and built vlose to 20 AKs over the years from home stamped receivers. These guns are just a vibe and run so perfectly
I've been clamouring for redos of older videos in this new long video format
Working on it! Better Spotting Equipment, Better Cameras, Improved Skill, Better Discussions - that's our plan for this year!
@@9HoleReviews we are not worthy
Fantastic video as always. I have a video suggestion. Can you guys test a Brownells Retro 4x scope on the M16a1? Reason I ask is to see how much of a Improvement an optic could make over Irons, especially when the Army issued such rifles to units.
Christ, glad I'm not the only one who's ear hurt after that one dude let off a round while Henry was talking lol
I really regret selling my SLR-105R. Such a nice shooter, and the side mount rail catches a lot of grief, but honestly they work. Especially now that red dots are much more common. I also like the 5.45 cartridge. Flat shooter even if it does give up a little distance to the 5.56. Of course, there hasn't been nearly the development work on 5.45 because of its lack of popularity in the sporting market. Be careful if you take it hunting for anything larger than varmints, because it does not meet caliber size requirements in all locations.
I'll own another one of these days.
Looks like a very smooth shooter, and that wood-coloured magazine looks very classy.
Thank you for an awesome video! One suggestion: I would love to see some videos testing maximum range of the infantry rifles. For example: How hard is it to land an 800 yard hit from an AKM? I believe the Soviets considered it “technically possible”. There are even numerical probability numbers available. It would be interesting to check if this Soviet hit probability data can be confirmed or disproved.
If you say , and the marking on the rear is up to 1000 meters ( on Soviet AKM UP to 1000 meters ) then it was not done for an accurate single fire ! in the Soviet school of shooting with AK, there was a lot of automatic fire, including disturbing.
For example , they spotted the enemy at 800 m - 1000 m , introduced corrections for these distances and covered this place in short bursts .
Single fire at such distances , from 5.45 is not effective .
@@kirillrassine4504 Checking the wikipedia article, the claim is that the AKM will have 25 inch vertical and a 35 inch horizontal spread at 800 meters, when fired in a short birst. If that is true, that is very effective. And, IMO it would be interesting to test this claim. Even with a semi auto fire, one can harass the enemy quite effectively with such accuracy. Imagine being on a receiving end, and hearing bullets hit less than two feet away from you. Also, you can call the round ineffective at such distances all you want, but personally, I would not want to get hit by one. Even a minor wound will suddenly change a soldier's priorities from fighting the war to dealing with a hole in his body.
@@drklopUnfortunately, my English is not good at all.
I probably expressed the idea incorrectly !
Of course, I got a bullet from the AKM and at 800 meters, this is very serious and will disable 100% .
I was born in the USSR and served in the Soviet Army in Afghanistan in 1987-89 .
And I told you how we were prepared ! Accurate , single shooting , was conducted up to 500 meters , then recommended automatic fire .
Now I have a Saiga 7.62"39 and even with 3x optics AKOG for ballistics 7.62" 39 123 gray, shooting at 800 m is extremely difficult. The speed drops , even a small wind blows away a bullet and a hit at such a distance , this is already a matter of chance . At such a distance , you need more speed and a better coefficient .
308 wines or 7.62" 54p are more suitable.
@@kirillrassine4504 That's interesting information, thanks for sharing! So when firing in full auto to 800 meters, do you let out a short birst, observe where the bullets impact, adjust your aim, then let out a second birst? Or do you "walk" the bullet impacts on to the target - firing a long birst as you are changing your aim while observing the bullet impacts?
@@kirillrassine4504 Also, since you served in 87-89, I'm assuing you had the AK-74, correct? Just want to know whether your military experience that you are describing was with the 5.45 or the 7.62x39.
Crazy popping those 450 rounds over the deer just wandering by. They must know it's not deer season and are feeling brave.
Iirc the 5.45 round was based off of an Olympic target shooting cartridge used by the Soviet Olympic team(back when center-fire target shooting was an Olympic Sport).
Anyone who has been on the receiving end of both the 47 and the 74, respects this rifle. I have, and when you consider that this is a combat weapon platform that has survived and been improved for 60+ years, its a testament to the original design to be utterly reliable and retain accuracy for many thousands of rounds of often crap ammunition and in filthy or freezing conditions. The only rifle that has been adopted by more countries is the FAL and thats a weapon that costs three times the price.
The experience in Ukraine now is that front line soldiers do not see the enemy, so it's really a defensive platform because 90% of the casualties are happening miles away and caused by artillery and mortars. Close order combat is almost non existent. A combat soldier is now a technician not a fighter.
I don't know why I found the deer hoping around whilst Henry tried not to hit them so funny. 3:38 to 3:45 just hopping to the left 😆
By the Soviet and then the Russian standard, the П setting is 300 meters. The idea behind it is that in a stressful situation, you will be aiming under the target and will hit a torso-sized target up to 300 meters. For 5.45 ammo, the ballistics are true for that situation up to 400 meters. I would still say that a couple of misses were blatantly user mistakes, but still, it is very impressive.
I found with standard aks the front post is too fat beyond 200m. A human torso at 250 to 300m is smaller than the width of the sight. Swapping it for a precision front sight post makes a big difference.
The AK platform is either the best or the worst based on who you ask. Glad to see a more balanced view.
Like yes its resiliant and easy to handle but it cant be dropped in a bucket of mud and just shoot.
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Amazing shooting!
My new hero. You appear to be a wealthily businessman, smart but likes guns as well. I aspire to own a business than eventually a gunstore. I have experience with gunsmithing, on top of wayyy more things.
Looks like you need a bit of fine tuning on the elevation of the front sight post, but overall this is a surprisingly accurate rifle.
I think that the issue was the ammunition used. The sights are calibrated for 53gr 7n6 while Henry was shooting 60gr commercial ammo.
I had a AR upper on an M&P lower CHAMBERED IN 5.45 and I absolutely loved that round hated the terrible wolf ammo that was difficult to source round my way and was corrosive and dirty as hell
I like the first generation AK-74 with the wood furniture and the brown Bakelite magazines
Looks pretty accurate up to 300-400m.
9 hole reviews for when a review of the norinco type 81 rifle that has a short piston action system is widely used in Canada along with the vz58 rifle due to the restrictions towards the ak. Sir, continue fertilizing your flowers, sir. I always follow your channel. Atte from Argentina a descendant of a soldier who fought in the Malvinas (Falklands).
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Bear in mind that the belt buckle we're talking about is the belt buckle on the belt of a typical Eastern European uniform tunic up to the Eighties. It sits right at the body's center of mass higher than the buckle on your pants. A lot of these were brass with the nation's coat of arms emblazoned on them. What a convenient aiming point!
Henry is a comedic genius.
Here's another idea - why not take the M4A1 back out for a spin, with 62 grains and the KAC BUIS? Alternately, 62 grain with the Matech BUIS. This was another run where Henry had a lot of trouble with the Matech ironsights and 55 grains, and I suspect he would probably do a lot better with the correct bullet weight to match the BDC. I'm curious to see what he could do with the right ammo, since I've seen people walking around with the M4A1 and the Matech sights, mostly because our optics were trash, and they had to qualify with this setup.
IIRC he originally cleared this course with 55 grains at 40/40, which was a tough run. To be honest, I hate the Matech sights and I suspect they're crap, but I wanted to confirm.
Me: I will spend a number of cold mornings this Fall on an elevated platform with a rifle and not see a single deer.
Henry: ha, ha, Hoosier, in Tejas the deer come to us!
Love the intro, nothing said other than 'Shithole weather' and then straight into it! Keep up the awesome vids guys!
Also side question: those looked like Red Deer, do you guys get those in the states?
Looks like a mule deer.
Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!
I’d love to see y’all take the AKs out to the range on a beautiful day. It seems like every AK practical accuracy video you’ve done so far, the weather was complete sheeit.
Cold? In Texas??? Normally i start sweating when i see you Guys on the Range. 10°C right now where i am in Germany and it feels to warm to wear a Jacket.
The 74 is my Russian rifle of choice. I would love to try a Krink just to see if it matches what my experience with the XM177 E1 was. Cheers
Not bad results for "Not Rob Ski" shooting.😁
Big fan of the Russian AKs. I have an SGL 21 and a 5.45 Vepr. Both wonderful rifles.
When I went into the Army in 1985 the common thought was exactly what you were saying about the AK. Not until I went to Iraq I figured out that was a bunch of Bologna!
Funny, I just picked up my 9th AK-74 variant yesterday. I'm in love with the platform but my wallet isn't.
What models do you have? I'm curious
@@minotaurus91 2x Bulgy AK-74s, 3x Saigas (AK-74M, AK-105, AK-12 clones), Polish Tantal, Rommy AIMS-74, SLR-104UR (AKS-74U clone), Molot RPK-74M.
Speaking as a devoté of the AK74 and other 5.45 variants, I wanted to say thank you for another episode. Have you run a Garand through the course?
They've done a run with the Garand in an older Practical Accuracy video, but not here at Eagle Lake. I'm wondering if Henry and Josh will revisit that run...
@@Anino_Makata are they not filming in Millican anymore?
I am always envious of the cool weapons y'all get to shoot.
Для справки, там на целике, есть такой специальный переключатель, зажимаешь его пальцами и можно поднимать и опускать прицельную планку. Таким образом можно выставить высоту на определённую дистанцию, она размечена на самой планке (в метрической системе конечно). Попробуйте, это реально работает.
For reference, there is a special switch on the rear sight, you clamp it with your fingers and you can raise and lower the aiming bar. Thus, you can set the height to a certain distance, it is marked on the bar itself (in the metric system of course). Try it, it really works.
With the wind conditions you were facing on the range for this rifle, you probably would have spent another 5 -12 rounds if this was a 7.62 x 39 out of a 47 variant, just because of the huge arc needed to land shots on target. The more time in the air the more that chubby round gets pushed by the wind. I have a Yugo M70ab2 and I'm comfortable shooting it 50 - 100 yds, since there is no optic rail. With my Romy AIMS and Polish Tantal in 5.45 x 39 using a PK-A Venezuela optic (0 magnification) I'd be very comfortable shooting out as far as my bad eyesight could allow a PID on the target, with wind conditions you were facing. At 100 yards not even a challenge, but that's as far as my property will allow me to safely shoot, and I cannot claim anything otherwise until I can get them where I can utilize an longer expanse of clear range. Both of my 74 variants have the folding wire style stock as well, which makes for an interesting cheek weld on hot sunny days. :)
Should have left the rear sight on the battle setting, for 5.45 it is good from 0-400 yards.
hope you guys get your hand on the Japanese type 89. I can't find any one in US do a review or fire that gun. Great video!
As someone who's lugged around a G3 a whole lot I wouldn't have a problem with the AK74. The power of the 7.62 NATO, and it's ability to trick the enemy into making bad judgement calls about what constitutes "proper cover", is certainly a nice aspect. But by golly does that shit weigh you down. In practical terms I'd be happy with something that is highly dirt resistant and has workable accuracy out to 300 meters. A torso hit is a torso hit. It doesn't matter if the gobnik dies or not. He just needs to reconsider his plans of hostility while he's yelling for the medic.
I’d really love to see you guys revisit some of the ww2 stuff. It really does seem your improving and it would be interesting to see how far behind the Cold War stuff they are.
Behind?? It likely shoots better. 8mm Mauser and 30 0 6 are legendary
The sighting systems on a lot of World War Two guns hold them back really bad. I can make hits easier with an iron sighted Ak past 100 yards than with a k98k just because the mausers sights are awful to the point of having a hard time getting a fine bead at what you shoot at.
That shot at 6:00 made my ears ring too.